Francia Raisa: ON Getting Rid of Toxic People in Your Life

In this week’s episode of On Purpose, Grown-ish star Francia Raisa opens up about what it was like growing up in Hollywood and how she’s been able to keep a level head by relying on her faith. She also shared her tips on overcoming rejection and staying grounded. You will be truly inspired after listening to this conversation! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Jay Shetty?

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• 3:09Speaker 01

  Just like any other drug, I think pain could be addicting, and it's so hard to get out of that because you're so used to living in that dark for so long that once you see the light, you're like, ah, my eyes hurt, I don't want to do this. So you go back into the darkness, and it's going past that pain.

• 3:28Jay Shetty?

  Everyone, it's so great to be back with you, and I can't wait to introduce you to my next guest. We've been trying to get our schedules to align for so long. We finally made it happen, and I'm so excited to speak with her. She's got an incredible, incredible series of things happening in her life, and I'm excited for her to share them with you. Her name is Francia Raisa, and she's an American actress and activist, and she's currently starring in Freeform's wildly successful Grownish, and has so many more exciting things coming as well. Francia, thank you so much for being here.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Thanks for having me, that was a great intro.

• 4:03Jay Shetty?

  Oh, thank you, I appreciate that. Well, I was gonna add that even though we've only met once before this, I've followed you on Instagram since.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:11Jay Shetty?

  You've made me laugh.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks.

• 4:13Jay Shetty?

  You've moved me. You've made me feel that you're so involved in so many meaningful efforts.

• 4:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:19Jay Shetty?

  And so, thank you Instagram.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 4:22Jay Shetty?

  For letting us connect more and for keeping us connected since you're back.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, you've been very active, and it's great. I appreciate all the comments and stuff that you give back. And same with you, I mean, all your stuff is super inspirational. I'm like, yes, I can do it, let me get up!

• 4:35Jay Shetty?

  No, thank you. And you're, I think I said it on the day, like your one million celebration.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Oh, gosh.

• 4:41Jay Shetty?

  So, Frances, if you haven't seen it, you have to go through her Instagram profile. You have to scroll back to when she hit a million and she did this dance to celebrate.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:48Jay Shetty?

  And it was so good.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  And by the time we filmed, I'd already been dancing for two hours. I was so tired and I'm like, wow, I'm not 14 anymore where I can just keep going. Yeah, but it was fun.

• 4:59Jay Shetty?

  You did. You made it happen.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, somehow. Somehow.

• 5:02Jay Shetty?

  You didn't skip, you didn't skip anything. You were crazy. No, you're awesome. And, and I'm so excited for you. I saw the article in Variety the other day.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:10Jay Shetty?

  This is incredible.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm very excited about it. I can't believe I didn't even know about the story, just to kind of elaborate on it.

• 5:17Jay Shetty?

  Yes, yes, yes. I want to hear all about it.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Well, in 1947, California became the first state to desegregate all schools, thanks to a Mexican-American family. And people don't really know about that unless, you know, you study Chicano Studies or really look into our history. And Brown versus Board of Education is really the only piece of history that we know with desegregating schools. But actually Thurgood Marshall used Mendes versus Westminster as a gateway for Brown versus Board of Education. And, you know, I, I found out about this story in January. And I brought it to Mandy Tepe, my producing partner, and we were just on it and trying to get the family to come on board with us. And they've had so many people approach them about a film.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  And somehow they felt more comfortable with me than anyone else. So now we're here in the development stages and I'm very, very excited to finally like bring this story to light.

• 6:12Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's beautiful. How did you find this story?

• 6:15Speaker 01

  My boyfriend, actually.

• 6:16Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I've been wanting to produce for a long time. I've been doing this business for 13 years now. And I just kind of wanted to do more than just acting. And Mandy's always been pushing me to produce as well. Her husband is actually my manager. And so, um, my boyfriend's super supportive and um, I've been looking for stuff, looking for stuff. And he came across it somehow and he's like, did you know this? And I was like, no. And so I started looking more into it and reading about it. I brought it to Mandy. She goes, how does any, no one know this? And I got rejected from school when I was five years old for not being able to speak English. So that was against my rights as a citizen. So, you know, we contacted Sylvia Mendez,

• 7:00Speaker 01

  who actually was awarded the Medal of Freedom from Barack Obama.

• 7:03Jay Shetty?

  Wow.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  And contacted her, went to see her and had probably like a two, three hour conversation with her. And she immediately said, no, I don't want to give away my rights. And I was like, okay, listen, it's more than just making a movie. I know that education is very important to you. I'm upset that I didn't learn about this in school. And I want this to be a part of our school curriculum. And the best way to do that is through Hollywood. I was like, it has to be told. I told her about my getting rejected from school, which she was shocked about because I was in the nineties. And this case happened in the forties. I didn't know this, but later on I found out that she went to her sister's house and said, I have a feeling about her. I think this might be the right move. And it was just a gut feeling, met the whole family.

• 7:49Speaker 01

  And then um, we about a few, a few months ago, we got them to sign paperwork and now we're partners.

• 7:54Jay Shetty?

  That's incredible. Congratulations.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 7:57Jay Shetty?

  I love the synchronicity of that story.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:59Jay Shetty?

  It gives me so much, it gives me so much faith in entertainment and its role in shifting culture.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 8:06Jay Shetty?

  And telling stories. Because the way that all came together, like your boyfriend, the family, they trusted you and, and that's huge.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:14Jay Shetty?

  And that's massive for them to be turning that down, but for you to also have had that experience yourself.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  Right. And that's one thing that my mom was always so upset about. She goes, name the school, which I won't now, but it's not worth it. But I was telling my mom, I was like, it's so funny. At five years old, this happened to me. Who knew that that rejection would lead to this opportunity?

• 8:32Jay Shetty?

  Amazing. Yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Years later. I mean, you just never know.

• 8:35Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. And what a beautiful connection. That, that's, do you reckon that's the reason that the family felt like? That was one of the reasons.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  I think it was a part of that. Us Latinos, we're very big about gut feeling. And one thing that they said, they're like, you can't really translate it. They said, we just had a presentimiento, which means intuition. And I think just in conversing with her and, you know, growing up in this industry, being very passionate about my culture and really wanting this to be a part of our education, I think is what really drove them to be like, okay.

• 9:07Jay Shetty?

  I love that. Where does that Latino gut intuition come from? Like, when did you start saying that to yourself? When did that start being a way you made decisions in your life?

• 9:16Speaker 01

  Uh, when my mother knew things about me that there was no way she would have known about, unless it was that like gut intuition. I'm like, Mom, how do you know this? She goes, I just know. I guess it's the weirdest intuition that women develop.

• 9:31Jay Shetty?

  Can you tell us one of those examples? Do you remember any? I forgot you that.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  I mean, this might be TMI. This might be, this is really TMI. But it's one of those things where like, nothing happened. I saw my mom one day. I went to visit her at a restaurant and she goes, you lost your virginity yesterday. And I was like, how do you know that? Like, it was one of, like, that's how crazy it is. Like, she, there's no way she would have known.

• 9:53Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 9:53Speaker 01

  But she just knew.

• 9:54Jay Shetty?

  That is amazing.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:55Jay Shetty?

  Wow, that was the best example you could have given us, yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  TMI.

• 9:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 10:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:01Jay Shetty?

  Wow. And I, and I love how true that is for you because even your role in Grownish is like challenging typecasts, right? It's like.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  Challenging typecast?

• 10:11Jay Shetty?

  I think like you're, you're challenging how ethnicity and backgrounds are presented.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  I think it is in any role, period. I mean, I think before, when I was first starting in this industry, I was just so desperate to work. I was like, I'll do anything. And now I'm more so standing up for my culture and just my characters and, you know, saying, ah, I don't feel comfortable saying that. Or, ah, this is a bit stereotypical.

• 10:35Jay Shetty?

  That's what I meant, yeah.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So I think it's with every role.

• 10:38Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  And just even myself, there was a line, we're shooting season two right now. And, um, you know, I have a scene with someone where we're talking about relationships and he's saying, you know, Girls get crazy, whatever. And my line was, well, girls only get crazy because, and I went to the producers and I said, you know what? I don't feel comfortable saying that because I'm almost condoning the fact that girls go crazy. So they were very open to that and, and you know, I was able to say quote unquote, whatever. But you know, stuff like that, I'm very much about standing up for any sort of body shaming. I won't talk about. I'm just more open and like really standing up for my own personal beliefs that will coincide with the characters.

• 11:17Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing. When did you, when do you feel or what made you feel confident to even have that conversation? Because from conversations I've had with artists and actors before, it's very much like, well, that's the script. And it's not really something that shifts much.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:31Jay Shetty?

  So how, when did you develop that confidence? Or have you always had it? And where's it come from?

• 11:36Speaker 01

  I think one, turning thirty really made me be like, I don't care as much. But two, honestly, it's the Me Too movement. Because once these stories started coming out, I realized that a lot of things that I wasn't okay with, but I was quiet about, were actually not okay. So because women started speaking out about their experiences and even men too, were speaking out on this stuff and the time's up. I just started being more comfortable being verbal, especially because now people do get in trouble for it. So, um, and people are very open minded. Um, a lot of, I work with the best writers and producers and stuff. So, um, it's just a conversation. I, and you hear this growing up, but it doesn't really catch you until you're older, I guess. Or something happens where like the worst thing they can say is no.

• 12:22Speaker 01

  That's so might as well try, or you're just gonna regret and be like, what if I should have, I should have, and I hate saying I should have.

• 12:29Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. And I, but, but I do, I, I really, I recognize and value that so much. I admire it so much because I think, I, I always said that if we don't see the culture of media shift, then we can't expect in real life. I remember when you started to see more LGBTQ representation in media. Then people feel like they can be themselves.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 12:50Jay Shetty?

  You know, off screen and offline.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:52Jay Shetty?

  And, and I feel like the fact that you're doing that, like, that makes me so happy.

• 12:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:56Jay Shetty?

  Like, it's such a huge thing to do. And whether that's you representing your background, your walk of life, your philosophy, your ideologies, whatever it is.

• 13:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:05Jay Shetty?

  I think it's such an important stance. I just want to recognize you for that.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you.

• 13:10Jay Shetty?

  I think it's hopefully going to give anyone who's listening, like, more upcoming artists also.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:15Jay Shetty?

  The feeling to.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  The freedom to do so.

• 13:17Jay Shetty?

  The freedom.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  And there's a way to go about it. Just do it with grace. Have a conversation about it. Like, I, you know, I don't come with an attitude. I'm not yelling. Um, I try to, but sometimes, sometimes it slips. But, yeah, you just gotta have a conversation and be like, this is where I'm coming from with it. Just with any relationship, communication is key. You gotta be the change. So, you know, just talk about it.

• 13:37Jay Shetty?

  Where did you get this amazing attitude? I love it because that's what I've been experiencing on Instagram and I'm like, every time you post something, I'll be like, oh my God, Frances is so like evolved. Yeah, in a, no, in a, in a good way. Like, you just have this awesome energy about you.

• 13:49Speaker 01

  I appreciate it.

• 13:50Jay Shetty?

  And I was just like, where, where do you get it from? Where, where does it come from?

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Honestly, lots of therapy and church. A lot of church, yeah.

• 13:56Jay Shetty?

  Nice.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  Been actively going to church for a while now, but I, I think in two thousand, when did, two thousand, what year are we in? Sixteen?

• 14:03Jay Shetty?

  Twenty eighteen.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  Sixteen, fifteen, I was going consistently every Sunday and just really soul searching and having conversation, just really understanding things a lot differently than the way I was seeing them.

• 14:14Jay Shetty?

  That's beautiful. And that was not something that you did since you were young. It was something that came later on.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I came later on. When I was younger, I mean, I went through, as, as many people have, a lot of trauma, uh, growing up. And I was just angry and I was going through a lot of pain and I was just so confused. And I started working at seventeen years old. So I went from being a senior in high school to filling out W two's, not understanding what I was filling out. And at the time, I was, uh, dating someone that was nineteen years older than me. So I was just so confused about life and just lost. And, um, I didn't actually get, receive therapy from that relationship till about. I mean, almost eight years later, where I actually realized what kind of trauma I had gone through, what kind of verbal abuse I had gone through. And I just really had to grow up because it came to a point where I was just so depressed and I could not get out of my closet.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  Like, that's where I would pray and just cry was my closet. And I just could not leave. And I was like, I can't live like this anymore. So, you know, my pastor came into my life, was like my big brother now. My acting coach was said, I won't coach you unless you go to therapy. And so I was really forced by my loved ones to seek help. And here I am a few years later. But I needed it and I wanted it. And I've learned that it's really a choice. Like, people can tell you things or you can give advice, but if they're not ready to hear it, like, there's no point to it.

• 15:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  And I was just at that point where I was ready.

• 15:32Jay Shetty?

  It's amazing. Thank you for sharing that.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 15:34Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, such a beautiful message also for loved ones to hear that.

• 15:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:37Jay Shetty?

  That they have to do or play their role.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:41Jay Shetty?

  Like, what you just said, your acting coach wouldn't work with you if you didn't.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:44Jay Shetty?

  And just playing that role. But then you're still saying it's your responsibility. It's your choice.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. I mean, they gotta play their role, but also be patient with you when, you know, you reject it and/or accept it. Because, I mean, just like any other drug, I think pain could be addicting. And it's so hard to get out of that because you're so used to living in that dark for so long that once you see the light, you're like, ah, my eyes hurt. I don't want to do this. So you go back into the darkness. And it's just going past that pain, past that addiction. Yeah.

• 16:13Jay Shetty?

  It's like being in bed and trying to wake up. It's so easy to just stay under your covers.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, and make excuses. Like, I'll wake up tomorrow.

• 16:18Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's, yeah, self pity is so addictive.

• 16:22Speaker 01

  Very addictive. Yeah, very addictive.

• 16:24Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing. It's nice to see how different people find different things that create that. But the therapy and chat seem to be popular.

• 16:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:31Jay Shetty?

  Something spiritual and something therapeutic that helps you talk it through.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 16:36Jay Shetty?

  Are you now providing? Are you someone who is a helper amongst your friends too? And like, guiding them through their challenges?

• 16:43Speaker 01

  Sometimes it depends on the situation. If they look for it and want to have a conversation, for sure. I mean, we have, my friends, I have a different group of friends. We have group chats going on. And if they come to me, then for sure, I'm there. But sometimes it's like, you gotta wait to see if they're ready. Or if there's a point where I'm like, ah. We may have a conversation, what's going on with you, then I will, but it just really depends. You don't wanna force it on anyone either. I didn't like it when people forced it on me.

• 17:08Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  So I don't do that. I'm really big about, if I don't like something, I'm not gonna do it.

• 17:13Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. I think that you have to give people that freedom.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, if it doesn't feel like your choice, you're never going to follow up.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 17:20Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:20Jay Shetty?

  I love it. I read somewhere that you're talking about the child of an immigrant work ethic.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and I love that.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:29Jay Shetty?

  Can you tell us a bit about that?

• 17:30Speaker 01

  Like, what, to say what?

• 17:32Jay Shetty?

  No, just like, what, how, what do you mean by that? Because I think like that theme is kind of coming out a lot more in media now. A lot of people are like, I'm a child of an immigrant, it's a work ethic, it's impacting my success. How has it impacted yours?

• 17:44Speaker 01

  Well, let's see. When President Trump came into office, just like many people, I was very angry, especially because while he was running, he talked about my family. And I say my family because I am Mexican and Hondureña, and we consider each other family, as aliens, as rapists, as murderers, and all this stuff. And I've always been proud of being a first-generation American and speaking Spanish growing up. I'm bilingual. And then that was tested when he started running, and so I started being more active and outspoken about how proud I am of our culture. And my father actually was born and raised in Honduras, came out here when he was

• 18:28Speaker 01

  probably in his twenties, after both his parents died, and doesn't speak a lick of English to this day. Someone told him when he landed, if you wanna make it in Hollywood, you have to learn English or you're never gonna make it. And he said, "Watch me." And in 2014, he got a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and still does not speak English. He's been very successful in his career. And I think his work ethic and the fact that I had hope and what can happen, living right next to me, is what's really made me be like, no, we're not aliens, we're not murderers. Like, my father helped change the world a bit, and that he's, he's a Latin man who doesn't speak English. What are you talking about? So I think that's where that comes about, and my passion for it, and, you know, again, there's other people that are first generation.

• 19:13Jay Shetty?

  What an incredible role model to have right next to you.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:15Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing. That's amazing. How does, how is that, how is that had pressure, or is it just has positives?

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Uh, there's been a bit of both. I, I mean, there's no positive without pressure.

• 19:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, okay, nice. I like that.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, so growing up, there was a bit of pressure, I guess. Um, I didn't understand it growing up because my father was famous and I, again, I didn't, I didn't know him walking down the street and people asking for photos. I didn't understand it because to me it's just my dad. And I remember being like, Dad, when we go out today, you're not allowed to take pictures and you're not allowed to meet people. And if he did, I would cry and be like, you promised me not understanding. And then it just felt a little pressure because I had to hold up this persona because I'm Kukui's daughter and I didn't understand what that meant. And then when I chose to be a part of this industry, kind of living up to his name a little bit because he's a huge activist. And I think that's why he got the star. Um, one, his ratings were really great in the Latin market, but also he's,

• 20:14Speaker 01

  you know, started nonprofit and, you know, when the earthquake in El Salvador happened, he built homes and he built churches and he built schools. And he went to Nigeria. He, he's, he's huge, um, in philanthropy. So, yeah.

• 20:27Jay Shetty?

  So now if you, seeing your success, if you were to ever have kids, I don't know if you want to have kids, but if you were to ever have kids, how would you, how would you do it with them, with, with people wanting to take pictures with you and?

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Oh, gosh.

• 20:38Jay Shetty?

  Reliving that, how would you, how would you manage that?

• 20:40Speaker 01

  I don't know. I've never even thought about it that way.

• 20:43Jay Shetty?

  I'm like fast forwarding.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  No, you're fine because obviously it is a thought. Like ever since I turned thirty, I was like, okay. Because my mom brought it up. She goes, I do want to know what it's like to have grandkids with no pressure. Um, I don't, I don't know. I mean, I think, yeah, I think it's just having to explain it.

• 20:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 21:00Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 21:00Jay Shetty?

  Your kid's gonna be born with a million followers already. That's like the new thing, right?

• 21:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:06Jay Shetty?

  I see with so many people, like the child's born and they have a million Instagram followers.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  I know, and they make money and they don't even understand. It's crazy to me.

• 21:15Jay Shetty?

  Advertising like the latest sneakers or whatever.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. Exactly. I'm one of those people.

• 21:19Jay Shetty?

  Part of it's cute.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's really cute. Gosh, that's a good question. I don't even know what I'm gonna do.

• 21:24Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Your mom asked me to ask you, so. Yeah, no, it's it's definitely something that I think about a lot as well. It's just, you know, the culture that not just that, but the culture that we all grew up in. It was different for me growing up in London.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:39Jay Shetty?

  And, you know, I remember like my parents would never get me a pair of Nike trainers, like sneakers, sorry. Because it was just like, no, you can't have those, like, we can't afford them, whatever it was. And then I remember getting my first pair. And then now I'm in a very different world.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:52Jay Shetty?

  And you just wonder how different things impact and even hearing your story.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:57Jay Shetty?

  Of of the background and culture you've grown in.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:00Jay Shetty?

  I'm always just fascinated by how people get their incredible ideologies.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I remember that too, where we couldn't afford anything. And then my dad took me to Toys R Us one time and said, get whatever you want. And I was like, what? I don't, you're not limiting me to like one toy?

• 22:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I mean, hopefully when I have kids, I don't, I can provide.

• 22:20Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  But I think, yeah, it's having a conversation. I don't think they ever really talked to me about what he did. And helped me understand it. It was just like, this is what you, what he does. And that's what it is.

• 22:29Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, that would be a hard conversation.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  I don't think they understood because Hollywood wasn't like a thing. I mean, growing up in Honduras and Mexico was just a dream, but I grew up with it over the hill. And so I think it's just having having a conversation. My parents weren't very open.

• 22:46Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  With having conversations with us. They were very like conservative and old school and stuff. I mean, I remember when I asked my mom what a virgin was, she goes, it means when you're not married.

• 22:55Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 22:56Speaker 01

  When you're not a virgin, you're married. And that was it. That's how I found out about sex. That's what it was.

• 23:00Jay Shetty?

  Wow.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. So they were, they didn't talk to me much.

• 23:03Jay Shetty?

  And then, and then she told you you were married?

• 23:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 23:07Jay Shetty?

  Wow. Okay, right. Yeah.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:09Jay Shetty?

  That's interesting. That's awesome. I was, I, everyone, everyone who is listening right now, Francia learns all her lines the day before. I shoot, like, I'm so impressed right now.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:19Jay Shetty?

  Memory.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, you just told on me to production. It's okay because I was.

• 23:23Jay Shetty?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. Oh, yes.

• 23:24Speaker 01

  No, no, it's fine. It's fine.

• 23:25Jay Shetty?

  No, she doesn't.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, it's fine because, you know, as long as I am prepared when we run lines and when we're shooting, it's fine. But that's the best way that I learn. Like, I can't. Do it too many times before because then you over rehearse and there is such thing as over rehearsing and then you're more in your head and it's not as organic. I mean, like you and I are having a conversation right now. I mean, if this were a scene, I would have learned it right before because I want to actually listen to your dialogue. And if I over rehearse, I'll know your dialogue, then I'm not hearing you and then I won't react organically.

• 23:56Jay Shetty?

  Wow. Have you, has your style evolved, has your workflow evolved, as you've been? What, what's been like the newest lesson that you've learned in your space?

• 24:04Speaker 01

  Um, probably like what I just talked about is listening, really, really listening, improvisation a little bit. Cause this is my first time on a comedy. And you know, they kind of give us wiggle room to ad lib or improvise. And I don't think I've really gotten much of that before. So it's really made me stand up and like listen and be on my toes and come up with something clever. Which that's actually really hard. So SNL people, you guys.

• 24:32Jay Shetty?

  Do you think you've become funnier in the process?

• 24:34Speaker 01

  I hope so. I really hope so. I get some laughs.

• 24:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  You, we listen for that, um, because if Village, uh, Video Village is where the producers and the writers sit. We don't hear them laughing. We're like, am I not funny?

• 24:46Jay Shetty?

  Oh, no.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  And when we hear them laugh, even though sound hates it, we're like, no, it makes us feel good.

• 24:51Jay Shetty?

  What's that pressure like though? It's like, because that's I guess very different to having your lines, doing your script here, you've got that room.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 24:58Jay Shetty?

  It's like, how does that feel? Like trying to wait for laughs, etcetera, just like a stand up comedian and then?

• 25:03Speaker 01

  I know, right? Um, it's better now because we're all family. This is the second year that we've been working together and I think I put more pressure on myself than anyone did because I was so used to drama and I can cry on cue, but you know, comedic timing is crazy and it's a real thing. So I was just putting a lot of pressure on myself, but I've chilled out a lot this season and just kind of let it happen.

• 25:23Jay Shetty?

  Nice.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:24Jay Shetty?

  Nice. I'm going to be looking out for now. There's moments where I'm like, I'm just trying to see of being comedic having those moments. When I, when I see your work and I, and I follow you on Instagram, as I was saying earlier, you seem like someone who really values your physical and your mental health.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:38Jay Shetty?

  Like somebody who really prioritizes it, and at least I feel that way.

• 25:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:41Jay Shetty?

  And what kind of rituals or setups have you put into place that have helped you do that with a stressful career, with a pressurized lifestyle, with crazy travel plans, as we were discussing earlier? What's become like priorities for you? To make sure that both of those work well.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Church on Sundays, I have to, even if I'm traveling. I've been bad about going physically because of work and I'm tired, but they thankfully will stream it online. So I'll watch it online, even if I hear it in the background. So that's been very important to me and very helpful. Journaling, I'm big about journaling and I try to find time either in between takes or in the mornings. It's been harder in the mornings, but my ritual was, is waking up, making my coffee, going outside to journal, and then I go to the gym or yoga or something. And lately I've just been getting some friends to do yoga with me. I'm trying to get your wife to do it with me.

• 26:35Jay Shetty?

  Do it.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:37Jay Shetty?

  She would love that.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, hot yoga.

• 26:38Jay Shetty?

  Oh, my God.

• 26:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, we just talked about it.

• 26:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, please, that'd be amazing.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's like, I just need that stress reliever.

• 26:47Jay Shetty?

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• 28:54Jay Shetty?

  State Farm is there to meet you where you are, and they know how sweet it is to feel good about your decisions. Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with a personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. Yeah, absolutely. And your journaling, was there a specific process that you did, or it was just letting all your thoughts from the day before, or what's that kind of taken? Or is it just very open and random and spontaneous?

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Uh, it could be random and spontaneous, but my journaling are my prayers, because I'm very bad about, you know, being like, do you hear God? So I just write it, and I write, what I do is I write letters to God.

• 29:38Jay Shetty?

  I love that.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  And then whatever flows, flows.

• 29:40Jay Shetty?

  That's beautiful.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:41Jay Shetty?

  Wow, that's amazing. Ever gonna print it as a book?

• 29:44Speaker 01

  Probably not.

• 29:45Jay Shetty?

  Okay. These are personal.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's very personal. I know, people have approached me about that, but yeah, they're super personal. I think, especially in this business, there's a lot of pressure to like, be public about things. Um, so that, stuff like that, I think is good to keep private, which is so weird to me, because it does, it wasn't a thing until social media came about. Because before, it was like, you know, keep your stuff private, da-da-da. Now, it's like, you get paid to be more open about your life.

• 30:08Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  And, you know, I think some people can, tend to go crazy because you share too much. You know, just like when you're little, if you share too much gossip, it comes back to you. So I can't even imagine being in the public light with some of these relationships and breakups, I mean. It's breakups especially because it's our, you already have to deal with the breakup and then deal with people's opinions on top of that. It's just, it's, it's a lot.

• 30:29Jay Shetty?

  Totally, totally. And sometimes I feel like vulnerability is mistaken for telling everyone everything.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:35Jay Shetty?

  And it's almost like, I don't know how you feel about that. That's how I feel. Like, vulnerability to me doesn't mean telling everyone everything.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it doesn't.

• 30:41Jay Shetty?

  Because I just don't think that that's gonna be helpful to you or to everyone.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:45Jay Shetty?

  It's not useful.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, to me, vulnerability is just being transparent um in what you feel comfortable in. Like, I'm being vulnerable right now and having this conversation, but I'm not telling you everything about my life. You know, you don't have to be.

• 30:55Jay Shetty?

  Why not? Yeah, no, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, no, I feel you're being transparent too. I feel like you're sharing. But yeah, it's, relationships develop in layers.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:05Jay Shetty?

  And you kind of move forward with people.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:08Jay Shetty?

  And naturally, your inner circle knows you better, et cetera. And trying to get everyone to understand you at the same level actually doesn't make sense.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  No, especially at the speed that most people want to do it in.

• 31:18Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's, it's like this, isn't it? It's like, I wanna get to know you straight away now.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I'm like, chill out, bro. Chill. And yes, you know, I have people for, I have friends that I've known for many years, like our mutual friend, I call him Rez.

• 31:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, Rez. Shout out to Rez.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  What's up, Rez? Look at what you did!

• 31:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly. And Montana.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  So, uh, yeah, I've known him since we were fourteen years old, but now it's like, we're at a point where we know each other so well, but it wasn't because we, you know, started sharing each other's secrets right away. We actually weren't friends in high school and he hates that I talk about that. But I think it's really cool that, you know, we actually weren't friends in high school. We developed a relationship afterwards and now we're here where we just like, in intuition, we just know each other.

• 31:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. And that's such a nice message to everyone listening.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:03Jay Shetty?

  And it's okay if it takes time to become friends with people.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  Friends, relationships, everything. There's no rush. There's absolutely no rush, especially relationships. I know people are like, after the first date, what is this?

• 32:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  And I was one of those girls, like, very much about, what is this? Where is this going? I just don't wanna waste my time. And I, I understand that, but it's okay to be friends first. I think those are the best relationships.

• 32:24Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I've been saying to a lot of people as well that just everything is so much more gray.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:29Jay Shetty?

  Rather than black and white, like it's like this or that.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:32Jay Shetty?

  We're much like all in or nothing.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:34Jay Shetty?

  Or it's like, okay, what's happening or what it's not happening.

• 32:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:37Jay Shetty?

  It's almost like, well, actually, things are so much more gray.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:39Jay Shetty?

  And you allow it to develop organically and naturally rather than rushing in or rushing out.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:44Jay Shetty?

  And but it takes time and it takes like.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  Time.

• 32:48Jay Shetty?

  Time.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:49Jay Shetty?

  And energy, like real amounts of energy and connection, which which I feel like we just feel like we have less and less time.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, that's, uh, yeah, that's true.

• 32:58Jay Shetty?

  Which is true, which we were trying to figure out. We were like trying to schedule a dinner.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  I know.

• 33:03Jay Shetty?

  Maybe twenty nineteen.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 33:06Jay Shetty?

  We'll try and make it happen.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, yeah, you gotta meet my boyfriend.

• 33:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I really want to.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:10Jay Shetty?

  Tell me why you think we'll get along.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  Uh, I think on a spiritual conversation, you guys will get along. He's very much about meditation as well. So I feel like you guys will. Yeah, get along that way and just, I just have a feeling.

• 33:22Jay Shetty?

  Okay.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:23Jay Shetty?

  Nice, you have the gut.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 33:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Well, no, I need to talk to you about your prayers too. I'm I'm a huge fan of prayer.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 33:30Jay Shetty?

  I think prayer is probably one of the most beautiful things. And I remember when I first started praying.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 33:36Jay Shetty?

  And this is beautiful talking about it with you. I didn't even plan this, but when I first started praying, I'd always be like, I don't know what to say.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 33:42Jay Shetty?

  And then now that prayer has become so much more natural in a conversation.

• 33:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:47Jay Shetty?

  It's almost like you feel inspired to pray.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:50Jay Shetty?

  Like the prayers are coming through you and to you as opposed to.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:54Jay Shetty?

  You having to think about what to say or saying the same thing every day. I don't know. Does that sound similar to your experience? What's yours like?

• 34:00Speaker 01

  So when I first started praying, and I'm gonna share this, because I don't know if this will speak to someone. Um, obviously, I was like just sitting there. I'm like, I'm talking to myself. I don't know what. So I started journaling and those were my letters to God. But it came to a point where I felt disconnected. And I was like, I don't hear God the way that I used to, or I don't feel things the way I used to. And I'm having a harder time. And I was really discouraged, really frustrated. And this happened earlier this year, and I was going to my pastor. I'm like, I. I come to church, but I feel so disconnected. I remember during worship, I would cry because I would feel it. And now it's just very like blank to me. And one thing he said to me was, you're not praying the way that you used to. When you used to pray, when you first started, you were in a broken place.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  Of course, you heard God differently. Cause you, it was a broken person seeking that. But now that you have Christ in you, it's just in you. You're not going to hear him the same way because you're already, you're acting Christ-like, which is what we are taught in church is to be more Christ-like. So when you're more Christ-like, it's not that you're disconnected. You're just living and walking in what, you know, Christ wants you to be.

• 35:06Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Walking in. So it's, it's definitely been different now. Cause now it's like, you know, I hear about the fires. I'm like, dear God, please with, with these fires. I was like praying for rain, like something, you know? It's just more of a conversation, whether it's in my car, in the shower, just like you and I are talking right now. It's not so much like, okay, I got a journal, I'm going to be quiet and listen to worship. Or sometimes even just listening to music. Worship music is my form of praying and it's just a conversation and just the way I'm acting or the decisions that I make and how I handle certain situations is my form of being more Christ-like and handling prayer.

• 35:39Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's beautiful. And I love that acceptance also of we do change, the way we communicate.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:44Jay Shetty?

  Just like we do in our relationship.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 35:46Jay Shetty?

  It's the same thing. It's not like, oh, because it was good then.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:49Jay Shetty?

  It's like that same feeling has to happen.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. And that, that's hard to accept because I was like, I am not as connected anymore. What's going on? I'm going to church, but it's just, I'm not so broken anymore where I hear it the same. That's, that's the difference. And that's where, you know, you can either try to go back to being in that dark place. So you can hear it the same way, or you just kind of accept a new chapter that you're kind of enduring, which is what we work so hard towards.

• 36:14Jay Shetty?

  Hmm, yeah. You've just opened up a, a new thought for me. It's, it's so often that we actually recreate more drama to feel that brokenness again, because that makes us feel connected.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's addictive.

• 36:25Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  It's addictive. Yeah, so we can have something going on or wrong with us. Like, I'm like, oh, I'm not crying in therapy as much as I used to. Let me try to make something up. Or my boyfriend and I are getting along. That's a, that's weird. Let me start a fight.

• 36:39Jay Shetty?

  I hope you're not gonna do that.

• 36:40Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, I've been good. I mean, if anything, I'm like more open like, hey, I've been snappy lately. I'm sorry. I don't know why. I don't know what's going on.

• 36:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, no, we do the same. I always do that. I think I apologize to my wife like all the time.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:53Jay Shetty?

  I'm so much more aware now

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 36:56Jay Shetty?

  of the way I'm behaving.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:57Jay Shetty?

  So it's so much more easier to catch myself

• 37:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:00Jay Shetty?

  behaving in a way I don't like, or being distracted, or whatever it may be.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:04Jay Shetty?

  And just being like, I'm sorry I'm doing that.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:07Jay Shetty?

  And please forgive me because I'm going to do that when, or just being aware and actually being able to inform the other person of why you're behaving that.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 37:14Jay Shetty?

  Like, oh, I'm trying to do this right now.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:17Jay Shetty?

  And that means, I don't know, yeah.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  No, the same. I mean, I've been more aware and I'm like, I'm sorry and recognizing it before. And before I used to be like, it's your fault because you didn't put the toilet seat down, so it's making me react this way, you know? So now I'm more like, communicate, communicative, is that how you say it? Communicative.

• 37:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Put the toilet seat down, Jans.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  Put the toilet seat down.

• 37:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, make it easy.

• 37:44Jay Shetty?

  Make it easy for yourself. There are easy things like that in relationships, though.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:48Jay Shetty?

  And that's what I think. It's like, I always found, like me and my wife, by far the best and the easiest, the most amazing relationship I've ever been in. Obviously, that's where we got married, but the interesting thing about it is that I feel like I never wanted to be in a relationship where we just argued over the dumb stuff.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:06Jay Shetty?

  Or the small stuff.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:08Jay Shetty?

  Because I felt like that was the easy stuff, that we really should change, adapt, clear, like make it easy on yourself.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:13Jay Shetty?

  Because relationships, as you grow, gets harder in different ways.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  So many different ways. I think it wasn't, I thought it was good. I was like, I'm great. Because I was celibate and for like a year and a half, I wouldn't date. And I was like, you know, let me just focus on myself and grow. Because there's no way I can keep a relationship right. So after a year and a half, I met him, and I still wasn't even ready to date, but he came in my life. And I was like, you know what? I can handle this because I'm so good. And then realizing, oh, you're still a shitty person in some capacity. Because even though I'm good, I'm selfish now. So now I have to learn to not be selfish and communicate and, you know, compromise, which is like, the biggest thing is compromising.

• 38:54Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah. Is that bad?

• 38:57Jay Shetty?

  And we're back.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  Yes, we're back.

• 38:59Jay Shetty?

  After that technical difficulty of some roofwork going on.

• 39:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:04Jay Shetty?

  I think. But no, we were, we were so, and I love, I love where we were because we're talking about relationships.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:08Jay Shetty?

  And so much of my audience is watching a lot of my videos which are about relationships. I'm fascinated by them because I had so many failed relationships previously.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Same.

• 39:17Jay Shetty?

  To my marriage.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Same.

• 39:19Jay Shetty?

  Oh, good. Okay, so we're on the same wavelength. And I failed so many times, I made so many mistakes, I got so many things wrong. And I wanted to help people whoever wanted to be to avoid those same mistakes.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:30Jay Shetty?

  And allow me to explore content around relationships because I really do feel it takes up such a big part of our lives.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 39:37Jay Shetty?

  And, and we were both talking about ours. So we were diving into just awareness on when you walk into a relationship. Someone's at a certain level, someone's at a different level.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:49Jay Shetty?

  And how sometimes some people have to be patient and wait.

• 39:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. How, how, tell me when you've got it wrong and, and now when you're getting it right, when you're understanding yourself better versus when you didn't.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Well, I think when I first got into my relationship, I was still very selfish and very much about my ways. And I wasn't necessarily looking for a relationship. I hate saying this, but it does happen when you least expect it. So two, two thousand seventeen, yes, was a crazy year for me. Uh, um, I had just sold my home and I didn't, I didn't have a home because I, uh, was leaving to film the day I closed escrow. And so I didn't wanna, um, get into a new house and not even be there. So, uh, and I sold all of my furniture. I just needed to get rid of everything. I had too many memories and energies that I didn't want, and it was just time for a change. And I, that probably was the best decision that I'd ever made. Like so many of those energies are just gone.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Um, they're not a part with me and, and it just made a whole weight just lift off me. Very expensive. But also just also very healing for me. And so I moved in with one of my friends. Many of you know the story with my friend Selena and, uh, you know, I was in that new search of myself. Had been going to church and therapy and, you know, clean slate. And then, you know, I went through a kidney transplant. And I booked Gronish a few weeks after the transplant. And so I was like, wow, life is definitely taking a turn just from me getting rid of that old energy. So it was just like a turn of events that happened. And I didn't even realize that there were certain choices that I had to make in order to jump into that new way of life that I wanted.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  And sometimes it was, it's hard decisions like selling your home that I had lived in for eight years. And I kid you not, I woke up at three o'clock in the morning and God was like, you gotta sell your house. And I had felt it months prior, but I wouldn't listen. And then I was put in a position where like, I just had to. I remember having the worst anxiety and I was cringing, I couldn't sleep, I was crying. And it was the best decision I'd ever made, cleansing myself of all of that. And I met my boyfriend on set. He, I don't remember meeting him, he said he does, but he said he knew just from looking at my headshot. And he was like, who is that? And I think some people were like, don't mess with an actress, which, whatever. But, uh, I, yeah, he started talking to me pretty immediately on set.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  And I didn't really notice it because I, again, I just wasn't mentally there. I was just trying to do a good job and I had so much stress on myself that no one else put me in of like being funny or just even, um, you know, at the time I was 29 years old and I was playing 18. So I was like, I need to look young and I need to act young and everyone else is young. It was just like unnecessary pressure I just put on myself. And he just knew and, um, was like two weeks into filming. He had invited me to Catalina Island to celebrate his birthday and it was just me. And I was like, no, I don't know you, you might kill me. And I was very, yeah, he was like, why not? And I'm like, I don't know you, I'm not about to get on a boat with you to go to some island. That's like weird.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  And I was really shocked because my sister, who never usually likes anyone, was the one that pushed it. I went at lunch, I was just a brat. The minute I got there, I was like, I get seasick, just so you know. And I was like, well, I'm here, but I don't want to be here, just so you know. Like, I was just so mean, but he was just so like persistent about it. And we actually ended ended up having a really good time. And then I ghosted him as much as I could because we were working together for like a month. I swear, I ghosted him for a month. I would see him at work and he was like trying to be sweet, like, you're so beautiful. I'm like, stop talking to me. Like, I'm, you're doing the most right now. And basically, like, we're a year in and we're good. Um, but what I was talking about earlier is like, he was somewhere where I just wasn't yet.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  And I wanted to take my time. And I was so good about rushing into relationships and after the first date being like, what are we? I didn't understand casual dating. Yeah. Um, you know, kind of like they do on The Bachelor, where they date multiple girls or guys at a time. I just didn't know how to do this. So if I went on a date with you, I'm like, okay, cool. So when's our next date? And if I went on a date with someone else, I think I did it one time where I was like dating a couple of guys. And it just backfired on me and I was like, I can't, I don't understand how people do this. And it's okay, like, I don't get it. So with him, um, I just was like, all right, let me just take it really slow. We went to Catalina, but I'm just not there. He called me, he actually called, not text, he called. And I was like, what do you, what do you want? Like, I'm not here right now.

• 44:17Speaker 01

  And, um, he just kept pursuing, which is crazy because everything that I had wanted in a guy, he was doing. And I was rejecting it. Hmm. Because I wasn't used to it. I was so used to being ghosted or being hit up late at night. You up? Or, you know, being a secret or just all the toxic things that you don't want. I was so used to that and he wasn't doing it. And so I was rejecting it and I didn't want it. And then it took about seven months for me to get to where we're at now, even though like I'd been posting about him sooner. Because I always knew that I wanted to be with him, but I just was still kind of hesitant because I was just scared. And I I learned that like, yeah, it's definitely a choice. It's definitely a choice to work through things with someone. And he chose every day to keep choosing me, even though I was acting like a brat.

• 45:03Jay Shetty?

  But what was it more than the persistence? Because I'm sure people have been persistent with you before. And that's sometimes not enough, or was that?

• 45:11Speaker 01

  It was, he was just, it was just different. I just could not let him go for some reason. Like, as much as I tried, I would still pick up his phone call. Or I would text him, like, you haven't called me today. It was just different. I think also my, the fact that my sisters, not having met him, were so supportive of it.

• 45:26Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Also, Yara Shahidi, I blame her. Um, and her mother, because they talked him up. And they were like, you don't understand, he doesn't do this. I'm like, yes, he does. I'm an actress, he's in the crew, I'm sure there's plenty of other actors I can know. And so I think finding out that this was out of character for him was what made me be like, oh, you might be a little different. And this is how he got me to hang out with him, um, after Catalina.

• 45:48Jay Shetty?

  After Catalina.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  He came up to me one day on set and said, can I come to church with you? What am I saying, no?

• 45:54Jay Shetty?

  No, you don't like to come to church.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  You can't come to church?

• 45:57Jay Shetty?

  MySpace.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, it was smooth, it was smooth.

• 45:59Jay Shetty?

  Oh, nice.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:00Jay Shetty?

  That's, that's amazing. I can't wait to meet him now.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's great.

• 46:03Jay Shetty?

  I love it. That's, but, and now if you read Francis's messages, they're so about him on Instagram. They're so

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Different.

• 46:10Jay Shetty?

  Cute and adorable and

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Ah, thanks.

• 46:12Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it's nice, yeah. But it's, no, it's nice to see. I just love, I'm so glad you shared that. Because I love how you didn't run into something, rush into something when you didn't feel ready.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:24Jay Shetty?

  At the same time, you know, amazing props to him for actually waiting, sticking around, being patient, not rushing it.

• 46:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:33Jay Shetty?

  And, and then actually saying like, yeah, this is working for me.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 46:36Jay Shetty?

  Whereas today, I find like, it's, I do see a lot of, okay, let's talk about this, because you, you could say it from your perspective. I do see a lot of this today. A lot of guys are trying to do everything nicely and well. And, and provi, you know, whatever, whatever they're trying to do. They're trying to like wine and dine and date and all the rest of it. But a lot of girls are like resisting.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  Because we're not used to it.

• 46:57Jay Shetty?

  Right, okay. So tell us a bit about that. Like, is that, if someone's in that same scenario, what signs should they be looking for?

• 47:04Speaker 01

  As a female or as a male?

• 47:06Jay Shetty?

  As a female.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  As a female? You know, I think where I was, I was at a point where I was just tired of toxic relationships. And it was really necessary for me to take that break for a year and a half. So it was a choice, and if you're ready to break that cycle and you know, you want a relationship and you don't understand why you're single and you don't understand what's not working, take a year, and which might sound like a long time, but it took me a year and a half. But take a year, take six months, whatever, just to yourself. Because unless you step away from whatever is keeping you in that darkness, you're never going to be able to see the light. So it's like, you know, your body, when you start eating healthy and you're so used to eating fast food. Your body adjusts to eating fast food, but when you start going through a detox, you're going through a lot of pain.

• 47:51Speaker 01

  Your stomach hurts, you're releasing a lot of things. And then let's say you eat clean for about a month. If you even touch a french fry, your stomach starts to hurt because you've cleansed it so much that you're not even used to that. You know, the, that toxic, uh, those toxic foods and, and oils anymore. Your body's like rejecting it. So I think in life and period, you have to do that where you kind of have to step away and take that out of your, your, um, vision. And so you can kind of clear your mind, be more about yourself. And then when you step back into it, you have more of a clearer vision of who you are and what you're looking for. Does that make sense?

• 48:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:29Jay Shetty?

  When you write a book.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  Oh, gosh.

• 48:32Jay Shetty?

  No, genuinely, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not messing around lately.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:35Jay Shetty?

  It makes perfect sense.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:36Jay Shetty?

  Makes perfect sense.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  It's the same with any sort of diet.

• 48:38Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:39Jay Shetty?

  And what, what signs should guys be looking for if they're being really persistent, they really like a girl, they're really making the effort, but she's resisting and pushing back, what should they really be doing and what signals should they be looking for?

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Um, I guess the signal with me. I mean, that, that's, it's hard. I think really understanding where they are in life. The best thing you can do is be their friend.

• 48:59Jay Shetty?

  Ah, that's awesome. It's, it's beautiful to hear. I love it. And thank you for being so open and honest. I think it really helps the conversation.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  I don't think I ever really have. I'm starting to more so this year because I've just been through such crazy experiences and I feel like people really. Need to learn it, just like I value from it when I go to church because pastors, they pour their own life out

• 49:17Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  as they're also teaching the Bible. I think it's important for us, especially given the platform that I've been given to kind of speak out about it. And it really does make me feel good when, you know, girls come up to me or people comment on Instagram that like it really kind of helped their day a little bit. And I think that's what it's about at the end of the day is just kind of giving back and helping grow in this crazy little life.

• 49:39Jay Shetty?

  So it seems like relationships have been an area where you've really learned a lot about yourself.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:44Jay Shetty?

  Work has too, in terms of the incredible work that you're doing, which you spoke about earlier. Has there been any other area of your life that's exciting you or something new that you're trying to learn right now? Or something that's fascinating you that that hasn't been around before?

• 49:56Speaker 01

  Like what? There's so many things.

• 49:58Jay Shetty?

  Okay, let's start with activism. Let's start with anything that you're being an activist for, something that you're standing up for, something that you're really passionate about.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  Right. Obviously, I'm super passionate about the Latino community right now, which is why I'm really excited to bring the Mendez story to life. And then I wasn't so outspoken about, you know, my culture. I mean, I was always like, I'm Latina and I'm proud or whatever. But I've had some people come up to me being like, thank you for talking a lot more. And I was like, I gotta be honest, I was just, I just was scared before because, you know, I don't want to complain so much about being Latina and not being able to work. Because, you know, I've been very fortunate that I am Latina and I have been able to work in Hollywood and it has been difficult. But I also wanted to praise the people that gave me an opportunity. And also, I didn't want to complain without having a solution.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Someone challenged me in that one day, like, okay, if you're complaining about this, what's your solution? So now I'm more open to talking about it. And because I've gone through, I guess, sort of a change within myself, I wasn't so angry anymore and I've learned to have a lot more grace in communicating and stuff like that. And obviously, being a voice for those who don't have a voice, being a first generation, Mexican and under and American, just kind of speaking out about, you know, what we're kind of going through and how we do bring value into America, as some people might think that we don't.

• 51:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and I'm sure you're getting a lot of positive feedback and support.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's been crazy. It's been really amazing, the feedback, the support, how, you know, a lot of other fellow Latinos are like, thank you for finally speaking up, which I'm glad that I waited. Because, I'll, I'll talk about this and it, it coincides with that. My kidney donation, for example, uh, many people have been, have told me, why don't you speak more about that? Why aren't you an activist on organ donation? And to me, my response is, it's something that I personally went through, it was a personal choice. Um, it just happened to be very public because of who I gave it to. But, um, I want to be able to talk about it when I'm ready.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  And I don't want to be, feel forced just because I have a platform because then what I'm saying is not genuine. It's not sincere and it's still a lifestyle that I'm adjusting to. Also, again, it was a personal choice and I understand my platform, but I still need to personally understand why I made that choice and how I feel about it and kind of educate myself more before going out and talking about it. And there's just so much pressure put on celebrities where it's like, well, you've done this and you've gone through that. So you need to talk about it. It's like, no, we, I, I don't, I really don't. I mean, I, I will at some point, but at, in my own time, when I have the right words and it sounds genuine and not like I'm a robot and someone was feeding me these lines and, because people can tell.

• 52:54Speaker 01

  Especially nowadays with social media and stuff, it's just so easy to tell what's fake and what's real and what's paid and what's not paid.

• 53:00Jay Shetty?

  That is such a great lesson.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:02Jay Shetty?

  Like what you just shared is such a great lesson. Like just A about being ready.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:07Jay Shetty?

  And B about having the right words. It's not just a broadcast, it's not like a tweet, it's not just a message of like, yeah, this is what I'm doing right now. Because if you've been able to process it, learn from it, reflect on it, think about, like what you said, like you were just adjusting to a new lifestyle.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:22Jay Shetty?

  And so when you're transitioning, it's very hard to articulate how you feel.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 53:27Jay Shetty?

  To explain how you feel.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  And so many people are being forced to just talk about it.

• 53:31Jay Shetty?

  Because it, popularity, et cetera, it just breaks you through and people start talking about you a bit more.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly, exactly. And same with, you know, growing up a Latina and now working in Hollywood. I got, I didn't understand, I needed the right words. I hadn't gone through enough struggle to really understand until, you know, recently. Cause you know, my dad helped me understand that I can do it, you know? And most people don't have the advantage. So I needed to go through my own Hollywood experience to be able to sit here and be like, all right, here's the deal.

• 54:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Thank you for sharing that. I think everyone listening, that's like a huge, huge takeaway.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:07Jay Shetty?

  I mean, there's been so many takeaways from already from our conversation, but that's a huge one, just about being ready, going through the process, doing the work, going through the journey.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  It's not easy. Doing the work is probably the hardest part.

• 54:18Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  It's the hardest part. Like, you know, being in college, studying for the final, it's the hardest part is studying. And then once you're done, it's like, okay.

• 54:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:26Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And then, and then comes life.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  And then comes life.

• 54:29Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 54:29Speaker 01

  And then comes other things, and then comes other challenges. And one thing my therapist said, and she keeps repeating it to me until it finally hit me, was, nothing in life is fair. Nothing in life is logical. The minute you understand that and accept it, you'll understand freedom.

• 54:44Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  And it's very true.

• 54:47Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Do you want to unpack that a bit? It makes sense as it is, but let's unpack it.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 54:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Well, what did you get from it?

• 54:53Jay Shetty?

  So, so, no, I love it. I absolutely love it. I think I say something similar to myself, but if we take that nothing in life is fair.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:01Jay Shetty?

  A lot of people take that as negative.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:04Jay Shetty?

  So a lot of people hear that and go, oh, well, if life's not fair, then life's not gonna do anything for me.

• 55:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 55:08Jay Shetty?

  I'm not even gonna try, because life's not fair, right?

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:11Jay Shetty?

  Because that makes me, that makes some people, not me, makes people feel like hopeless and helpless. And like, oh, well, life's not fair. Even if I work hard, nothing's gonna happen, because life's not fair. So I'm just gonna sit in bed all day.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:21Jay Shetty?

  So let's unpack it from that. Like, how do we, how do you understand it in a way that doesn't give you that feeling?

• 55:27Speaker 01

  Well, I'll speak as an actress. Nothing in life is fair. Sometimes a person will get a job that I was up for, and I know I work way harder than that person. And I know that I put more time into studying, and this person just got a DUI the other day, but because they have more followers, they got the job. That's not fair.

• 55:45Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  And so what I've had to learn that is, yeah, it's not fair, but that also wasn't the job for me.

• 55:51Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:52Speaker 01

  That's the door that wasn't supposed to be open. Another door was supposed to be open. For example, I was on a show, um, and I got recast, and I was like, that hell, that's never happened to me. It was like, I just got fired. Whoa. And it was not fair. I didn't understand. It was the dumbest. I actually can't even tell you the reason. I don't know, because I never got a phone call. I never got any sort of explanation. I kid you not, it wasn't fair, but then I wouldn't be on Grownish right now. So again, like I said, rejection leads to opportunity. So I don't know what happened. Okay, so that person doesn't work as hard. That lifestyle, whatever their choices are, is not my problem. And if I focus on that, on what isn't fair, then I'm not able to move on with my life.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  It doesn't mean that you're not gonna have another opportunity. It just wasn't that one, which is fine. And that's the hard part is accepting. Okay, it's fine that I didn't, I didn't get that one.

• 56:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah. I love that. And that seems to be a recurring theme in your life as well, of rejection and then opening.

• 56:48Speaker 01

  Oh, that's the only thing this business is, is rejection. Yeah, it's more rejections than, than positives. I mean, I, you know, I've been doing this thirteen years and my resume, you know, I'm, I'm grateful for it, but out of the, what, let's say there's ten things on my resume, I auditioned for thousands of them and I got no's and I got, you know, ten yeses.

• 57:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. It's such a numbers game.

• 57:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:12Jay Shetty?

  Like success and failure and, and breaking through is such a numbers game.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's hard. It's not easy.

• 57:17Jay Shetty?

  It is hard. I remember I, I, before I ever made a video, I had this idea that I wanted to share mindful messages, messages that were hopefully going to be empowering and positive and uplifting. And I was pitching it around to all these media companies, because I never had any background in the media. No one in my family has ever worked in the media. I don't have any network that's ever worked in the media. I just don't know anyone growing up in London. All my friend, family are like doctors or lawyers and dentists. And so I'm pitching this idea out and literally forty to fifty media companies just said, we're not interested because you have no media background, you have no journalism background, you know, you, you've never made a video before in your life, despite my, the fact that I'd studied and taught that for so long.

• 57:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:00Jay Shetty?

  And, and one thing I always say to people is you just need one person to say yes, right? You just need one yes.

• 58:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:05Jay Shetty?

  And we're so worried by like the thousand no's.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. Lady Gaga says that right now, all the time. She goes, a hundred people will say no to you. You just need that one yes. But also you need that work ethic to keep going till you can get that one yes. And that's what's hard. And then you gotta sit back and realize. Why am I doing this? Is it because I want the notoriety for it? Or is it because I want to help people? Because every job is to help somebody.

• 58:27Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  It's not just for yourself. Obviously, there's reward to it. Like, you know, for example, you know, for us, you know, we, there are a lot of events and people that we get to me. Those, those are the rewards that we get for being, doing what we do. Then there's also the other reward of being able to speak for those that can't speak for themselves.

• 58:44Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:44Speaker 01

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• 1:00:24Jay Shetty?

  How did you do it though with the rejections? How do you do it in a way where you can observe and judge yourself? So you know you need to change?

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:32Jay Shetty?

  Like, because when people, when you're hearing no often, there's one school of thought that's like, "Yeah, just keep going." But then there's the other school of thought like, "Am I getting no because I also need to grow?"

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Jay Shetty?

  Right? "Am I hearing no because I also need to change or progress?"

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:00:45Jay Shetty?

  How have you factored that into your own work and career?

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  Um, a lot of honest people in my life. Um, and again, I was just ready to hear it, um, and change and learn it and kind of talk about the pain I was going through. Um, when I first started working with my manager, he was very transparent with me on, you know, how people viewed me. And then I was very transparent with him, like, "Okay, so this is what I've been going through and this is why I was acting like this. And I'm not that person anymore." And, you know, my words can say it, but my actions will say something differently. And so, um, now I just, you know, my, the no's that I get, the rejection that I get, I'm like, I dissect it a little bit. It's like, "Well, let me get feedback. Oh, it was because of this. Okay. All right, cool. Then I'll know that for next time." Rather than just dwelling and being upset. Because some have been career changers for some people. And I'm like, "Oh."

• 1:01:33Jay Shetty?

  It could have been me.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, that could have been me. But I was too depressed. And honestly, I would, if I would have gotten those jobs that would have changed my career, I wouldn't be here today personally. I probably would have fallen off the deep end somehow because I wasn't ready for it. And that's when I'm like, "Okay, God really knows when you're ready for something or not." Because I, yeah, some people get it and they're not ready for it.

• 1:01:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. And it's, and it's so much nicer when you can actually have your success when you're able to actually navigate it effectively.

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:02:07Jay Shetty?

  Like to have it when you can really appreciate it, you can acknowledge it, you can experience it without sometimes externally having this success.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:15Jay Shetty?

  But then internally, you're not even, you know, you're not even actually processing any of that.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Right. I think it came to a point where it wasn't such a priority to me anymore. I remember my boyfriend makes fun of me now, but when we first met, I was like, "Work comes first. Work is number one, and then it's family, and then we'll fit you in there somewhere." Like, I was so like, "Work, work, work, work." And now I'm like, "Ah, you know what? I just want to be able to eat every day and save and have a home. That's all I care about." It's not even so much about getting a job or reaching the capacity that I want to go to. It's just about being able to survive. And because I've changed my mentality, just all this work keeps coming and it was, I wasn't so focused on it. And to where I could appreciate it more and just kind of sit back and take my time with it.

• 1:02:59Jay Shetty?

  That's such a beautiful place to be.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, again, goes with the relationships. When you're not looking for it, it comes to you. When you're not looking for that job, somehow it comes to you. And my boyfriend's really big about that. He, he's very good about manifesting things and then they just happen. And I'm like, please teach me that gift.

• 1:03:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:15Speaker 01

  Like, he just quit a job recently and he was like, I don't know what's gonna happen. He's freelancing and his phone hasn't stopped ringing.

• 1:03:20Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  And it's amazing to me.

• 1:03:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, so like, because so many people talk about manifesting as having a clear vision, knowing what you want, knowing, and, and I have my own thoughts on this, but so many people talk about manifesting as having a clear vision. Whereas when you're talking about, you're actually saying when you're not chasing something, that's when people are attracting it.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:37Jay Shetty?

  How, how have you thought that whole philosophy through?

• 1:03:39Speaker 01

  I think it, I, it boils down to faith, being able to see the things that are not yet in front of you. So I'll go back to God. It's like, you know, for those that are believers, it's like, you know that God's always with you. You don't ever physically see him. You don't ever, you know, you don't have them by your side, but you know that it's there. And you know that it's there. So even like, when, when you have a dream in your heart, and I truly believe that God's not gonna put a dream in your heart if it's not gonna happen, but you have to go through the growth of it. And that's the part that like, people don't wanna do.

• 1:04:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:09Speaker 01

  Uh, my pastor said this one time. He was like, isn't it crazy how one day you're like, alright, I'm gonna follow God and I've changed and I'm a new person? And everything's gonna be great. And that's when you go through the worst time of your life. You go through hell after you say yes. And you're mad. You're like, it's been a month. I go to church a week, every week. I pray, I read the Bible. Why is everything so bad?

• 1:04:37Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  And, you know, you talk, he, he talks about puzzle and how you gotta break the puzzle and then kind of put it back together. It's like you want God to fix everything in a week when you've been messing up your life for twenty five years. And you expect it to be just good right away. So I think it all just comes to faith and just having the faith that everything's gonna fall in place the way that you're supposed to. So I think with, um, manifesting, it's so much more of like, just believing in it and letting it happen organically the way it's supposed to and not trying to force things. Cause when you try to force something, that's when it's.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  Bad or wrong, or you just feel terrible about yourself. Like when you try to force a relationship that you clearly know you're not supposed to be in, and then you're depressed for five years.

• 1:05:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, I remember when I trained as a monk, so many of our teachings were in the same vein around it. When you pray for humility, your ego gets crushed.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:29Jay Shetty?

  So you're like, you're praying for humility, you're like, I want to be humble. I know that it's important to have humility and not have pride. And the next thing you know, like, everyone's like blown up your comments. So like, everyone's coming up to you and your ego's getting crushed.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:41Jay Shetty?

  And so when you're praying for strength, you're sent challenges.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:45Jay Shetty?

  Right? When you pray for strength, you have to be strengthened, and that's going to take challenges and going through pain. You don't just get strength, you don't just one day wake up with more strength.

• 1:05:54Speaker 01

  Or when you pray for patience, and then your patience gets real tested.

• 1:05:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:59Jay Shetty?

  Exactly.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, blindly trusting that things are going to be okay, just like we blindly trust an Uber driver to get us safe to with our destination.

• 1:06:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I remember one of my friends actually told me once, he was like, I don't pray for that stuff because I know it's going to bring me pain.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:06:11Jay Shetty?

  He was like, I'm not even going to pray for patience.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  Even pastors say, don't pray for patience. That's the worst prayer you can give.

• 1:06:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, oh, right, yeah. Because you'll be really pushed.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  Oh, really, really pushed. But, you know, the other side looks great.

• 1:06:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:23Speaker 01

  But everything takes time.

• 1:06:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. And the beautiful thing about getting that ability, or that characteristic, or that quality, or whatever we want to call it, that virtue, is that it stays with you.

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:34Jay Shetty?

  You now have that in your toolkit.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:36Jay Shetty?

  Like, once you've experienced patience, or lived with patience, you can now use that again in the future.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Jay Shetty?

  It's not like you lose it.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, one of the things that I value more is grace. Once I understood grace, I've definitely had a lot more patience with people because I understand grace. And I'm glad that I went through the struggle of understanding what grace really was, so I can actually walk the way that I have been walking, just from understanding that.

• 1:07:01Jay Shetty?

  Can you define and share your understanding of grace for anyone who doesn't?

• 1:07:04Speaker 01

  Oh, God, it's so hard to define it.

• 1:07:07Jay Shetty?

  I get that.

• 1:07:08Speaker 01

  Um, I think just having a patience with people, like, for example, there are so many mistakes that I've made in my life, as we all have, growing pains or whatever, and God had the grace to Still love me through it and take me to the side. I know there's so many people are like, I can't walk in church until I'm good with God, because if I walk in there, I'm gonna turn into flames. I'm like, no, that's like the best time to actually walk into church, and that's when the angels are like, hallelujah. And I think when I encounter people that probably don't have the best spirit or the best attitude, I just have a grace for them, because I'm like, you know what? I don't know the pain that they're going through. I don't know the darkness that they're in. It might look good on the outside, but something might be going on the inside. And I just, I'm just a little more patient and just like, okay.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  I mean, sometimes people do press my buttons and I do snap. I am human. But I'm very good about going back and be like, yo, what's going on? Because I didn't like the right way I reacted to this, and I reacted to this because you pushed me this way. But like, I'm sure something deeper is going on.

• 1:08:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, no, it's beautiful. Well explained.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, no, we've always called it causeless mercy.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:12Jay Shetty?

  And like, sometimes it's causeless, like you're feeling that love and kind and support. And then you start seeing it in the tough times.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:19Jay Shetty?

  And you start seeing it even through, you see yourself being held when you're like, oh my God, I can't see anything right now.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. I mean, this is so silly, but I watch wrestling, WWE. And a wrestler, um-

• 1:08:31Jay Shetty?

  No way, still?

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:08:33Jay Shetty?

  I love it.

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  Well, there was a wrestler that every time he came out on stage, he got booed. He got booed. And people were mad because he didn't do a lot of stuff outside of, uh, outside of the ring, like, um, interviews or meet and greets. He didn't do anything. And he just came out in the ring, um, a month ago now, and he said, I've been battling leukemia for the last 11 years.

• 1:08:53Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  And I, it's back, and I can't fight anymore. So he has to go get treatment again. And it really just told me and showed me, like, you don't know what people are going through. So you're, he's getting booed on stage, and people are saying he's the worst champion. I don't understand why he's where he's at. But it's like, I think, his name is Roman Reigns. I think he just had a deeper understanding of what life really meant. And he, when he wasn't in the ring, he wanted to spend time with his family instead of trying to grow his fame even more than what it already was.

• 1:09:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  And it, that put it more into perspective again, like some, everyone is going through something. You just don't know what it is. And then it came to that where people were like, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know.

• 1:09:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly. And even the other side, like, I have a- I have a father figure and a spiritual mentor back in London who has been giving himself, like a pastor, like giving himself to people his whole life, like serving the community and thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And recently, he got diagnosed with stage four brain cancer.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 1:09:56Jay Shetty?

  And it was just like, he never ever showed that he was struggling because he was able to like, wake up early and serve his whole life and give himself. And it's almost like a lot of people took that for granted as well.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:07Jay Shetty?

  And kind of overused it sometimes, you know what I mean? Like when someone's really compassionate and kind and you're just like, oh yeah, they're like Superman, like.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:13Jay Shetty?

  It's like no one ever loves Superman or cares for Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman or whatever it is, like that person is almost just living for others.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:21Jay Shetty?

  But everyone as humans has a limit.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:23Jay Shetty?

  And.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  And then people get mad at him.

• 1:10:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Uh, when I got back from Live Size, one of my castmates went through that. He had a conversation with me a few weeks ago and he was like, you know, I was really upset because I had a hard time when I came home. We were, you know, we were filming in Atlanta for a month and we had a consistent job every day. I was fortunate enough and I'm grateful and this is the first time this has happened to me in thirteen years where when I got back home, I had another job, but most of my castmates had to start auditioning again and were auditioning while we were filming. So it's not even like you can enjoy a job, you have to already think, okay, what am I going to do after this? So he was like, you know, I went through kind of a depression a little bit and I was really upset that my friends didn't reach out to me and didn't check on me to say, are you okay? How are you feeling?

• 1:11:07Speaker 01

  And you know, I have sort of a resentment. And I said to him, I'm like, are they actors? Because they're probably trying to figure out their own life right now. You just got back from a job. They weren't working that whole time. So I, instead of being frustrated, just ask them, are you okay? This is how you usually act towards me. You're, I'm not getting that from you, what's going on? And you know, he didn't think about it that way, which we all do. We're so used to, even me, like sometimes I don't hear from my pastor, not understanding that, oh, he has to help run a church. I'm not his only priority.

• 1:11:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  Everyone's going through stuff and he has two kids, you know?

• 1:11:41Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Yeah. And I always remind people, I'm just like, you know, if you're struggling to see the support from others, just realize that most of those people can't support themselves.

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:11:48Jay Shetty?

  Like just taking care of yourself is such hard work.

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  Such hard work, yeah.

• 1:11:51Jay Shetty?

  And, and yeah, just recognizing everyone has limits, everyone has boundaries.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  And sometimes you support so many other people that you don't.

• 1:11:58Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  Find the time for yourself and then you're. You're running on empty.

• 1:12:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and then you have nothing to give.

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:12:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, super important. Okay, I'm gonna ask you my last five big questions.

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:12:11Jay Shetty?

  Oh, no, it's not scary. It's just the last five minutes, last five questions I always do in every episode

• 1:12:15Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:12:15Jay Shetty?

  of every podcast. I want to ask you, what's the most meaningful thing you're working on in 2019?

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  Mendes versus Westminster.

• 1:12:23Jay Shetty?

  Okay, awesome.

• 1:12:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:25Jay Shetty?

  And we're gonna see it in 2019? Or no, we're not gonna see it?

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  No, probably not. Probably not. Yeah, I'm really focusing on finding the right writer to write the script because I really want it true, true to the story.

• 1:12:37Jay Shetty?

  What are you doing for the most fun in 2019?

• 1:12:40Speaker 01

  The most fun in 2019? Well, I just moved in with my boyfriend, so that's just a new chapter that I think will be really fun in decorating our house.

• 1:12:48Jay Shetty?

  Oh, very exciting. Yeah, we're gonna do some tips on where to shop.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, I'm looking at all of your stuff like, oh, this is cute. This is great.

• 1:12:57Jay Shetty?

  Nice, I'm glad. That makes me feel better.

• 1:12:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I think a lot more traveling. I haven't traveled at all.

• 1:13:01Jay Shetty?

  Ooh, not anywhere specific?

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Um, we really wanna go to Thailand. We talked about India.

• 1:13:06Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm. We should go together.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  I would love that.

• 1:13:09Jay Shetty?

  That would be amazing.

• 1:13:09Speaker 01

  You would be the best tour guide.

• 1:13:11Jay Shetty?

  That would be amazing.

• 1:13:11Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm gonna tell him.

• 1:13:12Jay Shetty?

  We should talk about that, yeah.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  So, I mean, this actually brings up another topic, which I know we have five minutes, but...

• 1:13:17Jay Shetty?

  No, no, no, we don't have. We've got loads of time.

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:13:19Jay Shetty?

  If you've got more to talk about, go for it. I don't even know if I have.

• 1:13:21Speaker 01

  I was, um...

• 1:13:22Jay Shetty?

  We've got loads of time. Oh, we've got time. And I just wanted to get you out on time.

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:13:25Jay Shetty?

  But I've got time.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  Um, 2019, we wanna travel more. Um, I'm 30 years old and I have not traveled much and I'm embarrassed to say that because I was, I suffer from FOMO, fear of missing out. And I was too scared to leave town because I was scared of missing out on audition. I was scared of missing out on a possible job, or what if, or a party, or this gathering. And I really, and I'm sad because I'm 30 and I haven't done anything. I'm like, I have nothing to talk about. And then sometimes I'll do interviews. I'll be like, what's your favorite place to travel to? And I don't have one. If I've traveled, it's for work. So I'm really, um, 2019, I'm looking forward to like... Saying, okay, I'm I'm I'm going to travel and this is this is what I'm doing. And I know there are certain actors that have missed out on really big movie roles because they traveled.

• 1:14:10Speaker 01

  But I'm I think they're grateful that they took the time for themselves rather than, you know, getting that job job opportunity, which is a career changer, but they also have other opportunities to have career changers.

• 1:14:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and you're not old.

• 1:14:23Speaker 01

  I'm not, I'm not, but I also I hate that I haven't traveled. Like, I've had the means to and I just haven't.

• 1:14:28Jay Shetty?

  It's great. Now you're just gonna make up for it.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:30Jay Shetty?

  Now you're gonna make up for it.

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I have someone to do it with. I have a buddy now.

• 1:14:32Jay Shetty?

  Which is which is a beautiful thing to have.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:35Jay Shetty?

  Like, as in, it's exciting that all those, I don't know before, but all those times when you could have traveled, it's kind of more meaningful now, so.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  It is more meaningful now, but even before, I was so jealous some friends would go to Hawaii by themselves, just to do yoga. And I was like, oh, I wish I could. I just could never leave.

• 1:14:49Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 1:14:49Speaker 01

  And I was just so used to being stuck in my bubble. I think part of it was my childhood because my dad didn't let us do anything. So we were just stuck in our house and I think I breaking free from that was really hard for me. Like, I can't sleep over people's houses. I was never allowed to do any sleepovers. So I I'm like, no, I'll drive home. I'll Uber. It's fine. I I have to be in my bed.

• 1:15:10Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:15:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:11Jay Shetty?

  So we're gonna break that one?

• 1:15:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't know. I like my bed.

• 1:15:14Jay Shetty?

  That one you like, that one you like. Someone's gonna have to, like, transfer your bed.

• 1:15:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can't sleep over anyone's houses. Yeah.

• 1:15:20Jay Shetty?

  Cool. Okay. Nice. Okay, third third big question was around. Uh, so we asked you the most meaningful, the most fun. The third one I was actually gonna ask you earlier, you mentioned a book. Do you read a lot?

• 1:15:30Speaker 01

  Uh, I try to. I haven't read as much as I've been wanting to because I mostly read scripts.

• 1:15:34Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  My favorite book right now is called Redeeming Love by Francine Rivers. It's a Christian book. I've read that one four times. Life-changing.

• 1:15:42Jay Shetty?

  Redeeming Love?

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:43Jay Shetty?

  Beautiful.

• 1:15:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's about a story in the Bible. Um, and it's, oh, gosh, I can't remember their characters. I remember their book characters, not in the Bible, but remember about the um guy God told to marry a prostitute?

• 1:15:54Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  It's that story but told from her perspective. And I've gotten four different messages from it because of each time that I've read it. At first, the first time I read it, because I was in such a broken place, I thought it was a love story

• 1:16:05Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  um, between the two people. And I was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. They fell in love, all this stuff. And then the second time I read it, I was like, oh, this is a love story between her and God, not him. He was just the vehicle in order to get her in a relationship with God, which I I mean, I threw the book. I was like, whoa. And then the third time I read it, there's a s- small part in the book and I threw it again. Where um.

• 1:16:31Jay Shetty?

  This book's in bad condition.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. Um, where um, one of the characters was asking her, the lead character, her name is Angel. Did you know you could say no? I threw the book. Cause I was like, wow, it really. She had a choice to say no, but she didn't know how to and it was just it. I learned a lot from it and it helped me grow a lot as a Christian, reading this book and as a woman.

• 1:16:55Jay Shetty?

  Amazing, thank you.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Jay Shetty?

  And and fourth question, before we get to the fifth, the fourth question. Thirteen years in the industry, all of this experience, seeing your family, your father, what's your advice to young creatives, young artists, actors, actresses, musicians?

• 1:17:09Speaker 01

  Uh, get used to the word no. And be okay with it. It's a lot of hard work, a lot of hard work, and I think just enjoy the process of it. It's not easy, you're gonna have times where you're the lead of a TV show and then you don't work for four years. And don't make it your be all end all game. Have a hobby, have other things going on. One thing that I wish I did and I didn't do and it's still like, you know, something I wanna do is I didn't go to college. Because I didn't think I needed to and um, I let an ex tell me that I shouldn't. Because why do you need college? It's stupid. Um, you're gonna be an actress anywhere, you're working as an actress. And so I wish I had other things to fall back on.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  Like there are other things that I'm very interested in and I, you know, I put a lot of my energy in it, which helps me kind of better myself as an artist. So um, have other hobbies, be okay with no and always study. Rita Moreno told me. Stay in school, acting school, she goes, I still go to acting school, she's in her eighties. You like, always study your craft. Just like a doctor, you want them to study medicine every day and be up to game, you should study your your craft just as much.

• 1:18:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, cause you're dealing with lives too.

• 1:18:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. I mean, literally, you have to really understand human behavior in order to do what we do.

• 1:18:24Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Which. You have to really open up your emotions and be vulnerable because the only reason I can cry on cue is because I've literally tapped into the pain that I've gone through and I've used it in my art. Which is painful.

• 1:18:36Jay Shetty?

  I love that you said that because I studied human behavior at business school. Behavioral science was what I focused on. And all of my content, all of my videos is made from that perspective. Like, that's exactly what I'm trying to tap into whenever I'm making any of in much smaller way than you are, but in any content that I'm making. That's always my goal to really understand.

• 1:18:53Speaker 01

  People.

• 1:18:54Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have to.

• 1:18:55Jay Shetty?

  And fifth question. What did we not talk about that you wish we did that we can talk about next time?

• 1:19:01Speaker 01

  Life Size Two. Wait, when is this coming out?

• 1:19:04Jay Shetty?

  This comes out like February, March.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  Oh, well, it already aired. So Life Size Two. I was able to work with Tyra Banks, who I've admired since I was a little girl, on one of my favorite childhood movies. So check that out.

• 1:19:16Jay Shetty?

  Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. We've got a bit of time. What time is it?

• 1:19:20Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, we got a little bit of time.

• 1:19:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:21Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, I, uh, I guess Tyra was really looking for this character for a really long time. A lot of people like to say that I have replaced Lindsay Lohan. I did not replace her. This is a brand new character. This is airing in February. I can talk about it. Um, it's known that Eve is a doll and there's a doll for everyone. And there's a serial number that's under her foot. So this is a new Eve doll that comes into my life. A broken, young woman who kind of just needs that push to grow up and be herself and, you know, go through that pain and kind of grow out of it. And Eve helps her through that. And I was very honored that Tyra came across my tape somehow. Like, I didn't audition for it.

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  And mind you, I talked about wanting to do a movie before shooting season two of Grownish. And I got a phone call randomly one day as I'm getting my nails done. Like, hey, Life Size Two, are you interested? I was like, what? They're doing another one? One, I was excited, but two, I was like, what part? And it was the lead with Tyra Banks. I was like, what? What is my life right now? Are you joking me? I would have never thought when I was 12 years old watching this movie. So it was really fun working with her and getting to know her and and just being in Atlanta and now being part of my favorite childhood movies. Crazy to me.

• 1:20:36Jay Shetty?

  Amazing. Huge fan. And also, it's the beauty of everything we just talked about now, like, full circle.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Jay Shetty?

  You weren't looking for it. You didn't audition for it.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  No, I wasn't looking for it at all. And it's crazy because one of our producers Worked on Dear White People. She was, she is one of the producers of Dear White People and I shot about three episodes and the very first director I worked with on Dear White People, his name is Steven Sashida. I remember our first day, he just has amazing energy. I was like, you're like one of my favorite people and my castmates made me feel like I was so weird for saying that and it was just like too much too soon. And then he was a director on Grownish and then he directed Life Size Two and I was like, I knew it. Like there was something there and everyone thought it was weird, but I just knew that there was like, he was just so special.

• 1:21:20Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, amazing. I met Tara for the first time recently.

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  Oh, really? Where?

• 1:21:24Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I was at this Continuum Conference, which was a social media creator and influencer conference. Uh, just a small collection of us and she was invited and she keynoted and

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  Oh, she's amazing, isn't she?

• 1:21:35Jay Shetty?

  She's got an incredible presence and I think we forget how huge, like she just has an understanding and knowledge on so many different things.

• 1:21:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:44Jay Shetty?

  Like she's, she's so much.

• 1:21:46Speaker 01

  She works really hard and all her success is so well deserved and earned. She's very plugged into everything. She was so plugged into our movie and really wanting it to, well, because I'm, I'm an old fan, um, I grew up with it. So she really wanted to cater to us OG fans and I really appreciated that.

• 1:22:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, amazing. Well, all the success for them. So excited for it as well.

• 1:22:05Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I'm not so focused on like, I want to do this, I want to do that. I know where I want to go and I know where I want to be and I'm just kind of letting God take the ride for it. So did I know I was going to be a voice for the Latin community? No, never, never thought, but you know, that's where I'm heading and I've been very passionate about it and I really, I really like it.

• 1:22:26Jay Shetty?

  Amazing. I love it. Thank you so much.

• 1:22:28Speaker 01

  Thank you. This was fun.

• 1:22:29Jay Shetty?

  You're the best. I know. So much fun. Your energy is awesome and I'm excited. I always feel like these interviews are great because even if I've never spoken to someone, you get to learn about each other so quickly in such a short period of time. But I'm excited to continue our friendship.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, same.

• 1:22:42Jay Shetty?

  Excited to meet Christian and just so grateful that you came. Thank you so much.

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  I'm excited to do yoga with your wives and kickboxing.

• 1:22:49Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Yeah. But thank you so much.

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  No, thank you. This was great. This was great. All right. Thanks.

• 1:23:00Jay Shetty?

  Thank you so much for listening through to the end of that episode. I hope you're gonna share this all across social media. Let people know that you're subscribed to On Purpose. Let me know, post it. Tell me what a difference it's making in your life. I would love to see your thoughts. I can't wait for this incredibly conscious community we're creating of purposeful people. You're now a part of the tribe, a part of the squad. Thank you for being here. I can't wait to share the next episode with you.

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