
Summary
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This episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty features music producer and author Benny Blanco discussing his new book, which reframes failure as an essential stepping stone to success. The guest explains how developing amnesia to failure, embracing embarrassment over playing it safe, and maintaining a balanced life prevent burnout and foster true creativity. Drawing on personal anecdotes about working with artists like Bruno Mars, Ed Sheeran, and SZA, the guest and host explore the power of staying true to oneself and ignoring external criticism. The conversation offers practical advice on risk-taking, setting boundaries, and redefining what it means to succeed.
- Embrace failure as a necessary learning tool rather than something to fear. 6:57
- Maintain work-life balance by nurturing health, relationships, and career simultaneously. 19:59
- Block out online negativity and ignore opinions from people who do not know you. 16:06
- Trust your own creative instincts and write or create from your personal experience. 36:14
Chapters
- 0:00Episode Introduction and Sponsorships
The host opens the episode, introduces sponsors, and sets the stage for the interview with Benny Blanco.
- 4:00Benny Blanco’s Return and Book Preview
Benny Blanco returns to discuss his new book on failure, with the host teasing its impact and encouraging listeners to purchase it.
- 4:46The Power of Saying “I Am a Failure”
Benny explains why acknowledging failure is essential for growth and how it shapes resilience.
- 7:03Overcoming Fear of Failure and Taking Small Steps
Benny discusses strategies for confronting fear, starting small, and building momentum toward larger goals.
- 10:17Personal Failures and Family Relationships
Benny shares early personal failures, especially with his father, and how these shaped his career and mindset.
- 28:01Learning from Industry Legends: Bruno Mars and Ed Sheeran
Benny recounts stories of working with Bruno Mars and Ed Sheeran, illustrating how repeated failure led to success.
- 45:41Balancing Success, Failure, and Authenticity
Benny emphasizes staying true to oneself, embracing vulnerability, and celebrating wins without losing perspective.
- 47:12Navigating Career Challenges and Personal Growth
Benny reflects on balancing career demands with personal life, the importance of standing up for oneself, and maintaining authenticity.
- 48:09Setting Boundaries for Creative Freedom
The speaker explains how setting personal and professional boundaries allowed him to pursue music without fear of losing opportunities.
- 50:00Risk‑Taking with Emerging Artists
He recounts the decision to give a new artist a hit song instead of a big name, highlighting the value of trusting instincts.
- 57:03Learning from Failure and Criticism
The conversation shifts to how listening to collaborators and accepting criticism turned a potential flop into a chart‑topping success.
- 58:41Mental Health Crisis in the Music Industry
The speaker describes a period of burnout, anxiety, and agoraphobia, and how therapy helped him regain balance.
Highlights
- 6:57
Amnesia to Failureinsight
The guest explains why having amnesia to failure allows people to wake up the next day, make adjustments, and keep moving forward instead of dwelling on mistakes.
- 8:48
Fear of Embarrassmentinsight
The guest argues that people are rarely afraid of actual failure itself, but rather the acute embarrassment of looking foolish in front of their peers.
- 19:59
The Stool of Lifestrategy
The guest shares a framework where a successful life is represented by a stool supported by three legs: career, loved ones, and health.
- 28:24
The guest shares how Bruno Mars overcame being dropped by a record label through relentless work ethic, extreme attention to detail, and sheer drive.
- 36:14
The guest recounts how he encouraged Ed Sheeran to abandon copying movie tropes and write a song about his real life, resulting in a massive hit.
- 47:37
Setting Boundary Rulesstrategy
The guest describes threatening to walk away from a major album project with Britney Spears to visit his partner, demonstrating the importance of personal boundaries.
- 59:08
The guest opens up about experiencing severe anxiety, agoraphobia, and physical tics early in his career due to overworking, and how cognitive behavioral therapy helped him recover.
Quotes
“I was like bursting with creative energy.”
Benny Blanco · 12:45 “We failed. You failed. I fail every day.”
Benny Blanco · 6:20 “The reason he is where he is today is because of his work, his ethic, his amnesia to failure and his sheer willingness to dust himself off and try again, over and over again.”
Benny Blanco · 30:37 “I was willing to take that risk because I needed to fill that part of my life up. I, what am I gonna do? Stay there and be miserable?”
Benny Blanco · 48:41 “I remember she got, when she got nominated for, uh, Song of the Year at the Grammys. I was just like, wow.”
Benny Blanco · 54:05 “I was stressed. I was like, uh, working a lot. I was like on a few deadlines that like usually I space everything out enough, but the way it all landed occasionally, maybe once or twice a year, it lands all at the same time.”
Benny Blanco · 1:01:04
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About this episode
Record producer, songwriter, and music executive Benny Blanco joins Jay for an unfiltered, hilarious, and deeply vulnerable conversation about redefining success, overcoming crippling phobias, and why embracing failure is the ultimate secret to unlocking your true creative potential. Benny pulls back the curtain on his chart-topping music career, sharing behind-the-scenes stories with artists like Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars, and Britney Spears, while diving into his candid new book on mastering life’s setbacks. Together they explore how to overcome the fear of embarrassment, build emotional resilience, protect your mental health while chasing big dreams, and maintain a grounded, loving relationship under the spotlight. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Mazda crafts cars for people who do more than simply move. Visit Mazdausa.com to learn more. Consumer reports does not endorse products or services. PURPOSE10 for 10% at altrarunning.com/onpurpose. Free Shipping and Free 30-Day Trial. JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 01:58 Looking Back at the Songs That Started It All 03:07 Repeat “I Am a Failure” 04:18 Overcoming Embarrassment and Taking Big Swings 06:28 Early Lessons in Failure 08:20 Choosing Non-Traditional Creative Paths 09:51 Mom’s Dreams Vs Choosing Your Own Path 11:11 Turning Doubt Into Motivation 12:05 Ignoring The Haters and Finding Your Spark 13:39 Turning Small Steps Into Big Momentum 14:59 The Success Stool: Balancing Life’s 3 Pillars 15:37 The Power of Small Daily Habits 17:12 Relationships Need Watering Too 18:46 Facing Failure, Fear and a Phobia of Flying 21:45 Taking Micro-Steps to Conquer Deep Fears 23:04 One Task at a Time 24:04 Bruno Mars’ Journey 27:13 Authenticity vs. Imitation in Creative Expression 28:35 Late-Night Songwriting with Ed Sheeran 33:41 Trusting That It Will Work Out 34:19 Finding Your Unique Sound Beyond Influences 36:23 Unfiltered Vulnerability & Asking for Help 39:19 Celebrating Wins vs. Constant Over-Achieving 40:06 Standing Your Ground: Britney Spears to Julia Michaels 43:57 Grammy Perspective and Redefining Success 48:53 When a Failure Turns Into Your Biggest Win (“Diamonds”) 50:58 Mental Health Breakdown Amid Peak Success 53:06 Priority Management, Boundaries, and Emotional Check-ins 55:32 The Power of Saying “No” to Protect Your Peace 57:22 Why Benny Wrote His New Book 58:53 Benny Blanco on Final Five Episode Resources: Pre-order F*ck Failure | https://www.amazon.com/dp/1668205246?lv=shuf&bestFormat=true&social_share=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_13VQ1DN9JWKWJSK7YN2A&channelId=704&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_13VQ1DN9JWKWJSK7YN2A&plpRedirect=mhFallback Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsbennyblanco/ TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@itsbennyblanco YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrBKQHQVEvD2Q9FP0DCP2g X | https://x.com/ItsBennyBlanco Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsbennyblanco/ Watch Friends Keep Secrets | https://linktr.ee/friendskeepsecrets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcript
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Topics
- AG1 Next Gen
- Virginia
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- Grammys
- Billboard
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- New York
- Toronto
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