NICK JONAS: The REAL Story Behind a Lifetime of Fame, His Inner Critic, and How Fatherhood Changed Everything

What happens when success arrives before you truly know who you are. How do you learn to quiet the inner critic while becoming a better partner, parent, and person in the process? Today, Jay sits down with Nick Jonas for an intimate conversation about identity, purpose, and the inner work that comes with growing up in the spotlight. Nick opens up about what it was really like starting his career so young, dealing with rejection early on and growing up with the pressure of being labeled “the shy, creative one.” As the conversation unfolds, Nick shares how fatherhood, marriage, and health challenges have profoundly redefined his priorities. He reflects on the vulnerability of becoming a parent, the anxiety that comes with loving someone so deeply, and the grounding practices, movement, routine, and therapy that help him stay present. Through stories of his daughter’s early days, his evolving relationship with faith, and the inspiration behind his new music, Nick reveals how creativity became both a refuge and a mirror, allowing him to heal, grow, and speak more honestly than ever before. Jay and Nick discuss what it truly means to be a good partner, a present parent, and a kinder version of yourself, especially when life feels overwhelming. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Turn Life’s Hardest Seasons Into Creative Fuel How to Stay Grounded When You’ve Lived Life in the Spotlight How to Be a Present Partner Instead of a Defensive One How to Navigate Anxiety Without Letting It Define You How to Reconnect With the Fearless Version of Yourself How to Build Emotional Resilience Through Routine and Movement How to Show Up as a Better Parent by Healing Yourself First Wherever you are in your journey, know that it’s okay to slow down, ask better questions, and choose compassion over criticism. You’re allowed to evolve, outgrow old labels, and rewrite the way you speak to yourself. Nick Jonas’ new album, Sunday Best, out February 6th: https://nickjonas.lnk.to/SundayBest With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 03:13 Who Is Nick Jonas Today? 05:02 Stepping Onto Broadway at Eight Years Old 07:00 What was It Really Like Growing Up in the Disney Spotlight? 08:40 Facing Financial Uncertainty as a Kid 11:08 Turning Deep Struggle Into Music 14:53 Finding Your Identity Beyond Labels 16:42 The Ongoing Journey of Self-Discovery 19:20 Why Early Exposure Became the Best Training Ground 22:16 Everyone Makes Mistakes 25:34 Recognizing and Quieting Your Inner Critic 31:53 Understanding the Unconditional Love of a Father 36:05 Staying Emotionally Strong for Your Family 40:18 The Moment He Fell for Priyanka Chopra 42:33 The Blending of Two Cultures 45:45 What His Wife Really Thinks 51:45 What Does it Mean to be a Good Husband? 54:50 Seeing the World Through a Child’s Eyes 58:06 The Fears That Come With Fatherhood 01:01:34 How Movement Helps Clear the Mind 01:03:53 Navigating Stressful Moments With Grace 01:08:04 Nick on Final Five Episode Resources: Nick Jonas | https://nickjonas.com/ Nick Jonas | https://www.instagram.com/nickjonas Nick Jonas | https://www.tiktok.com/@nickjonas Nick Jonas | https://www.youtube.com/user/NickJonasVEVO Nick Jonas | https://x.com/nickjonas Nick Jonas | https://www.facebook.com/nickjonas Nick Jonas | https://nickjonas.tumblr.com/ Nick Jonas | https://www.snapchat.com/@jicknonas See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:47Speaker 02

  I think that I sort of created a label for myself because I was being told that I was the shy one, or whatever it was at that time, or the sort of creative, moody one. And these labels, like, they do stick with you as you get older, and you start to sort of subscribe to it as well, and then it becomes a part of your self-talk.

• 2:07Jay Shetty?

  Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. Today, I'm sitting down with global superstar, Nick Jonas, singer-songwriter, actor. From solo hits like Jealous and Chains to chart-topping anthems with his brothers, Nick has continually evolved both personally and creatively. Nick is set to release his fifth solo album, Sunday Best, out February 6th, 2026, an intimate project reflecting his life as a husband, father, and the purpose he's found beyond the spotlight. Please welcome to On Purpose, Nick Jonas. Nick, it's great to have you here.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Great to be here.

• 2:44Jay Shetty?

  Finally, I feel like I've been waiting for this moment.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Long overdue, and that intro was amazing. Thank you. I'm very flattered.

• 2:50Jay Shetty?

  I always have to say to my guests that you had to live it. And we were just talking, I mean, you've done thousands of shows since you started performing as a young kid. I was so lucky, I got to see you all at American Dream Mall last year, which was amazing. A few years ago, we were just reminiscing 2021, I got to, I think, travel with you and the brothers for like three shows.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  You were on tour, probably.

• 3:12Jay Shetty?

  I was on tour for three shows out of like the 100 you probably did that year.

• 3:15Speaker 02

  Great to have you. How did you and Joe meet?

• 3:19Jay Shetty?

  Me and Joe met, do you know what's crazy? We met online during the pandemic. Him and Lily Collins were hosting a charity event, and I was asked to come on and lead a meditation online.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 3:33Jay Shetty?

  And Lily and Joe both messaged me afterwards separately and said, can you teach meditation to us and our friends?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Incredible.

• 3:38Jay Shetty?

  And that's how me and Joe met. And so it was one of those surreal experiences where we had a two-year friendship online before I even met him in New York, which is then when I met you.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  A mark's, you know, a time where most connections were made on the internet while everyone was staying at home during COVID. But he was so excited to have met you and then to be working with you and doing the group that you guys did. Was it every Sunday or?

• 4:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it was like every Saturday or Sunday, he would decide Zen Zone, and it lasted 75 weeks.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  It's incredible.

• 4:08Jay Shetty?

  It's unbelievable.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  People got engaged from it.

• 4:11Jay Shetty?

  Married.

• 4:11Speaker 02

  People's lives were changed.

• 4:12Jay Shetty?

  They've got babies now, like Vanessa and Carl. And then, and then I got to meet you and Kevin on that tour, and I was, I was just saying to you, I was so impressed. First of all, you guys are the nicest people in the world. I remember we went out for dinners that time.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:24Jay Shetty?

  You know, hung out, but more importantly, you were so. Calm and collected before you went on. You were such a good time before you went on. I was always like trying to be out the way and you guys just made us feel like part of the family. And then you'd go out there, absolutely crush it, you know, 25,000 fans, sometimes in the middle of nowhere, just like going crazy. And it was, it was so fun to be with you guys, honestly.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  It was great to have you and some really great conversations. I remember some of the flights and just the dinners we had. But that tour specifically was, was a crazy one because it was during, you know, the pandemic and we were one of only a few artists that were really able to get out safely and, and, and play some shows. We love performing and, and that's why we, we do it as frequently as we do. Once our, obviously our plans changed, once COVID happened and everyone had to be at home, um, we were, we were really grateful that we caught a window where we could go and safely play those shows. And they could come join us, be on the road, be a roadie for a few days.

• 5:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, it was, it was amazing. I only lasted three shows, I think, you know. But Nick, I, I feel like I've been watching your interviews with the brothers, I've seen so much of what you've done, but this is like the first time you've sat down separate of the brothers since you guys got back together and the band got back together. Who's, who's Nick Jonas today? Separate of the Jonas Brothers.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  It's a great question. Uh, changes every day, I feel like, you know, I, for those that don't know, um, that are watching or listening to this, you know, in the last couple of years, um, my life's changed quite a bit. My, my wife and I, you know, my wife Priyanka, we have a beautiful, uh, daughter named Multi Marie Chopra Jonas. Parenthood has, has really changed my life in, in so many ways, but also my perspective and the way I view myself and, um, you know, as it relates to my work as well. Obviously there's a huge influence, um, there as well. And, and so I think I had a better sense of who I was prior to that. And then everything shifted, um, once she arrived.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  What's great is that I have this, this wonderful outlet in my songwriting and my, you know, music career where I can speak about some of these, these things that are happening in my life. And luckily, you know, our audience, both with the brothers and solo, have really grown with us and they're, they're kind of going through some of the same life experiences. So it really is like speaking to peers and people that, that can understand kind of the language, right? And, and understand just what you're going through. So I, I've felt, you know, some freedom to, to express myself even more in my work these days, uh, which I think is reflected in, in my, my latest album, which, uh, I know we, we sent over before for you to listen to a track or two, just to get some context, but you know, I,

• 6:55Speaker 02

  I'm really looking forward to people hearing this work and kind of listening to these lyrics and getting a window into my life.

• 7:04Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I'm excited to dive into Sunday Best. I picked out some of my favorite lyrics from some of the songs. So we'll get to that. But I wanted to ask you, like, go back a little bit. What you're saying is almost like you started performing at an age when kids don't even know who they are.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:17Jay Shetty?

  And your life was so public. What was that like now looking back? Like, what was that experience like?

• 7:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I started performing when I was professionally when I was eight. I was doing Broadway shows as a kid. You know, our parents, very musical people. Our dad was a minister in New Jersey at the time. And we were, you know, close enough to New York City where this dream of mine to go and perform on Broadway stage was actually somewhat of a possibility. And I happened to be in a hair salon with my mom when I was like six or seven years old, just singing, as I always did. You know, some show tune. And the woman next to her leaned over and said, hey, my, my son is actually on Broadway right now in Les Mis. Your son could do it. You should go see this manager. So a couple of weeks later, they drove me and the brothers to go see this manager named Shirley Grant.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  She was this lovely older woman with all these photos of kid actors on her wall that she had made famous. And she was kind of a staple in New Jersey for, for kids that wanted to be in the business. And I went in and I auditioned for her, sang, you know, all the songs I knew, which was mostly just pop music. And, and then she, she said, well, there's, there's some signs here that, that we could have, you know, a path ahead of us. But you need to go learn show tunes. So I spent six months devastated that it didn't just happen. You know, my very short sighted, seven year old mind thinking my career was over. And I, you know, started learning show tunes with my dad and came back and auditioned for her again. And she started sending me on auditions and eventually I was on the Broadway stage.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  And I've really not looked back since. Went from doing that for three, four years to recording music. And then, you know, just the stars kind of aligning and obviously me and the brothers had a, you know, a song that we wrote. We were kids that someone heard that label and won sign all three of us. Just kind of went from there.

• 9:08Jay Shetty?

  Growing up on Disney in front of millions, like, how did that shape your sense of self now when you reflect back on it?

• 9:15Speaker 02

  Being, you know, the first family of the church, right? My dad was the pastor. We were expected to behave a certain way, expected to be sat in the front pew of the church every Sunday morning with our tie and, you know, our suit on. And there was a lot of eyeballs on us, which I think was actually a great training ground for what we would then experience on Disney so many years later. We didn't expect that to happen. We were initially assigned to a label that didn't really know what to do with us. And we got dropped after our first album came out. And we were, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, credit card debt, money that we did not have because there's, there's no money in ministry,

• 9:56Speaker 02

  really. We had to sort of figure something out. And thankfully, we got a call from Hollywood Records, which is, you know, under the Disney umbrella. And they said, we know what to do with the guys. And a couple of weeks later, they had us on the Disney Channel and things just started going. But the real head scratcher was, okay, what does it look like when it goes from just a couple hundred people in a church with all their eyeballs on you to millions upon millions of people, where, you know, you're expected to sort of behave a certain way? I think our parents did a great job. We all turned out somewhat okay, I think. But you, you know, you see the stories. We've all seen the stories of people that have really struggled coming out of that, or while they're in it. And I think it's a credit to their parenting.

• 10:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I've met your parents. They're wonderful people.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  The best.

• 10:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, they're great energy and you can see where you three get it from. But yeah, it's, it's even that early failure. I mean, to be failing at that age, to be dropped from a record label, tons of debt. Like, when I hear that, I go, okay, when you look at it from today's perspective, you're like, oh, yeah, of course, they made it anyway. It didn't matter. But it's like, at that time, I can imagine that being really heavy on your family. On was it quick enough a pivot where Hollywood Records came? Or was it, did you have to sit in that pain for a little bit?

• 11:13Speaker 02

  You know, there was a couple of things happening in our life at that time that made You know, the career aspect aspect of it almost feel less of a burden than some of the personal things that were going on. You know, our dad was at that church for 10 years. It was a real, um, you know, safety net for us and and a place where we we felt a part of a community. And some of the the families that were there prior to our arrival did not like my dad and and made it their mission to get him pushed out of the church. So effectively, you know, he he lost his job while also funding this this band, this dream of ours. We had to move out of our home because we were living in the church parsonage, which is owned by the church.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  And so we we moved into a basically a little house in a place called Little Falls, New Jersey. The owners of the home were kind enough to let us rent it from them for for basically nothing while we were in this transitional period. And around the same time, while we're on tour, doing a school tour, basically, we would show up at 8 a.m. load in our own gear and play a 30 minute uh assembly, basically. And then there was an anti-drug school, uh, anti-drug message at the end of it that our our uncle Josh, who was our tour manager, would give. You know, around this time, I'm I'm starting to lose weight. I'm, you know, thirsty all the time, I'm using the bathroom all the time. And um, kind of just thought it was a growth spurt or or that I was just, you know, going through puberty.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  Obviously, it wasn't that, uh, it was a diabetes diagnosis. So it all kind of collided at the same time and, you know, looked up and and life just looked very different. And so it it took a lot of faith and uh even questioning faith at that time. Going from the safety net of the church to all of a sudden being sort of betrayed by them and having to redefine relationship with God while going through some of your toughest moments. It's weird, weird time. But we we we came out of it okay. Um, and that phone call from from Disney kind of changed our our life.

• 13:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I mean, it it's interesting that you put it into perspective that like losing a record deal compared to your dad losing his job, you know, the faith challenge that's happening, you going through diabetes. It's like. It's interesting when you look at your life like that and everything's put into perspective. I just had a friend who's an author. She just had a book come out and she was talking to me about how before the book came out, all she was thinking about was book sales and data and if she'd get on the New York Times and all this kind of stuff that you think about.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:43Jay Shetty?

  And then she had a family go through a health scare and her partner went through a health scare and it was really serious. And she was just saying that she was in one sense grateful that that happened before because it just completely made her zoom out and the perspective completely changed. And she wasn't worried about all those things that we would naturally be worried about. What did you do as a family and what did you do individually at that time to kind of keep that faith, as you said? Like, what were those challenging questions you were asking? What were the things coming at you that you were then able to find your center or grounding? What helped you do that at that time?

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Writing music. Our parents got us, say, a V drum kit, which is an electronic drum kit where you could hook up your iPod and play along to the track. So it was kind of the way that I learned how to play drums in that basement that that drum set was kept in. And we also had a, you know, a little guitar rig and a keyboard. And, you know, I was, I was growing up, going through life stuff, right? First love, first date, all this kind of things that are really good, are a very good foundation to write music. You know, we had, we had a good sense of what we wanted the next record to sound like. We didn't know if we'd be able to make one because things were not going so well. But we just kept writing. Went down there every day and tried to write the best song we could.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  And we came out with a demo from that chapter of our sort of toughest windows of family, nine to 10 months. Came out with a demo CD with 11 songs that would then become the self-titled album that we released that, that connected and, and went on to sell, you know, millions of units and really redefined our, our career and our life. But it was born out of this incredible struggle that we were going through and, and kind of desperation almost, which I don't think is a great way to, to, to write from, great place to write from. But sometimes it, it is the fire you need to, to sort of get over that hurdle. And when I listen back to those songs now, I, I still really resonate with some of the

• 15:44Speaker 02

  messages in there and even, you know, the age appropriate writing. I think our dad was really great at encouraging us to. To listen to the greats, you know, the Eagles, the Beatles, Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder, but also to like what we liked. And at that time, you know, it was 2004, 2005, the sort of emo pop punk scene was massive. And we really responded to, I think, some of the angst in the music because we were teens who were going through this stuff and also navigating, dating and all those other things. And so we started kind of infusing that into our sound. And it really became a crucial part of the early records for us. And obviously,

• 16:25Speaker 02

  as we've evolved, so has the sound. But I think back on those times, even amidst the struggle with a lot of appreciation.

• 16:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, just it always, I love learning that because it just constantly points to how, when you're going through tough times, creating and building and doing something, and taking action is always half the solution. In terms of like getting momentum, moving forward, trying to create, build, grow, do something just allows humans to break through these really difficult times that go on in life. Looking back, was there a challenge growing up as a Jonas Brother and not just as Nick?

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Finding your own identity amidst a group is always tough. That's not unique to us. That's any siblings, right? Go through something like that where they've got to find their own identity. And even, you know, their place in the family. For each of us, being sort of labeled a thing, because it's the easiest way for people to sort of digest a new band is to say, oh, he's the this one, he's the this one. And it got tiring, you know, because I'm sort of inherently like a pretty reserved person. I think the people that know me best would say that I'm actually quite outgoing once you get to know me. But I think that I sort of created a label for myself because I was being told that I was

• 17:50Speaker 02

  the shy one, or, you know, whatever it was at that time, or the sort of creative, moody one. And these labels, like, they do stick with you as you get older and

• 18:02Speaker 02

  So I think when I got into my sort of late teens and early twenties, especially as I started to explore sort of my identity as a solo artist and as an adult, I tried to shed that. And when I look back on it now as a person in my thirties, I can kind of like laugh at the stages of life and how those early labels and trying to find my identity amidst this this group, you know, really shaped who I became.

• 18:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah. And you see that across like musicians, actors, athletes as well, where like they get a label and now you're almost playing the caricature of that label.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:39Jay Shetty?

  And and having to because A, there's some success attached to it. But like you said, you're just a young person still figuring out who you are. It's easy to be the thing that everyone thinks you are. How do you think that that was limiting? And in what ways was it actually helpful?

• 18:53Speaker 02

  The ways in which it was limiting were that you start to sort of subscribe to it as well. And then it becomes a part of your yourself talk. You know, I was not regularly in therapy in my teens. I think because our dad was from, you know, a ministry background, there was sort of a taboo around it. We would, we would often, you know, refer to sort of therapy as as more like a counseling session with a person in the church. Throughout those years, following our exit from the church, I really questioned faith and and what relationship I would have to sort of organize religion at all, which is something

• 19:34Speaker 02

  that I can, I can say now, knowing that my relationship with my God is totally intact and that my belief is totally intact. And I think it's important for everyone to go on sort of that journey of self-discovery. But during that time, I think we could have all benefited from sort of a more traditional mental health sort of approach. So that's, that's how it's limiting to answer that question. And then how it helped, it made me really tough.

• 20:03Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  I have nothing to complain about in my life because I am eternally grateful for everything that has been given to me, every experience I've been afforded. And I understand that I walk in in privilege. And so I'm grateful for that. That being said, life does still throw you curveballs. And there are things that are challenging. I'm grateful for the grit that I had to take on because

• 20:32Speaker 02

  Living a public life comes with these things. Comes with the very good, the things that we all think are glamorous and amazing. And also with some shit that you got to navigate. And whether it's family or friends or just sheer determination and grit. That's, I think, the positive I pulled from it.

• 20:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, thanks for saying that because I think what I'm encouraging all our listeners to do as well is think about how all life experiences are both limiting and helpful. And I think as humans, we have this ability to paint and experience all bad or all good.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:05Jay Shetty?

  And, and the reality is, no, there's nuance there and there's gray and there's, it's good to be able to reflect on something that was tough and go, actually, I've got a lot of great stuff from that, too.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:14Jay Shetty?

  Like, in so many ways, that's what's made me strong and resilient and ready for the future. At the same time, I'm aware that, hey, it would have been great to have some traditional therapy or, you know, some things at that time. And I think having that approach is so helpful.

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• 24:01Jay Shetty?

  What was romanticized about the Disney era that now you look back on and go, "That was probably not that healthy"?

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, it's global exposure. And when they turn, I call it the faucet. When Disney turns the faucet on, it just goes, right? And when they know they have something that has potential to be successful, they're the best team and company to market that to the audience that they've spoken to with such excellence for as long as they have. At that time, you had a pretty incredible graduating class. I mean, if you look at the success that everyone from that kind of era has had post-Disney, I think it says more about their ability to find talent that has legs, that has the potential for real adult success

• 24:52Speaker 02

  in addition to the success of the channel. What I romanticize about it and what I think back on... Is those elements, the idea that there's this big company that can just make things happen and it's exciting when it does. But also now, you know, being a part of a thing like a Camp Rock, for instance, is, you know, really incredible. Um, I think for a while, as I was trying to solidify myself as an adult performer and creative person, some of those things from our Disney pass were like embarrassing, like looking back at a yearbook would be for somebody. Um, now I'm just so proud to have been a part of something that had the global reach

• 25:36Speaker 02

  that that had or or other projects we did with them. And it isn't until you're, you know, you're grown and and you've sort of you're on the other side of that, that you can see that perspective. And yeah, I just, I look at it and go, wow, those kids were fearless, all of us, and really had had no formal training or, I mean, it shows in some cases. Um, but it's the best training ground there is.

• 26:01Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. If someone said today, Nick, you're shy, you're moody, you're the creative one, what would you, how would you react to that?

• 26:09Speaker 02

  I would say, uh, you're right, uh, to some degree, but I don't know, you sit and break bread with me or have a drink, you'll see pretty quickly that, uh, I like to have a laugh. I, you know, I, I am thoughtful in the way that I respond to questions and the things that come out of my mouth. I know bear consequences or bear fruit, right? There's, there's good, uh, to be had. There's also times that you say a thing you didn't mean to say, or you make a joke that doesn't quite land right. And, you know, you, you fall flat on your face and we've all had those moments. Um, two things can be true. I can be the person I was as a, as a team where I was given that label, but I can also evolve and become this other sort of more dynamic person that I, I strive to be.

• 26:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad you said that. And I feel like when we were at dinner, you were always the one sparking off really thoughtful conversations and like, you know, getting us all kind of like discussing something interesting. And I'm like, and, and hearing you say that, I mean, I think about my experience in a much more smaller way than you, but I've always felt that like because of what I do for work and because of my, who I am online, which is who I am, it's just a part of me. I often feel everyone's like, oh, well, Jay takes life really seriously and he can't joke around. And I'm like, my friends who know me the best know that all I want to do is banter and like, rip into someone because that's who I am behind the scenes and that's who I truly am. And obviously that isn't, it's not that it's misaligned with my work. It's just we're all these 360 degree people.

• 27:39Jay Shetty?

  But because we watch everyone for 30 seconds on a TikTok or a reel, you kind of become this very simplified version of yourself.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's so true. And there are times, now I feel like I watch back certain interviews that I've done in the past. And I try not to be ultra critical of myself. I am, we all are, I feel like. But I sort of have this yearbook that lives out in the world, you know, and I can't kind of control that. That's just part of the thing. But I often will watch back interviews and go, hmm, I can see where I was like projecting what I wanted people to think of me. Or, you know, I'm withholding a hot take or an opinion that I think might get me in trouble. I've been fortunate enough

• 28:26Speaker 02

  to have not misstepped in my life to, in a way that would limit my ability to continue to do what I'm doing. We are all capable of making mistakes. And I feel like, you know, having, having the world get to see into my, my life has been both wonderful and also really frightening at times.

• 28:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  So I try to live honestly and just, you know, lay it out for people now because I think it's just way easier to connect. And so to your point about the dinner conversations, I love the freedom of having. Great, in-depth, intense conversations with friends and having a laugh as well. I'm getting more and more comfortable kind of fully being myself for the world to see as well.

• 29:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I like the way you put it, though. It's like the world has access to your yearbook.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:19Jay Shetty?

  And that's a, that's a really interesting way to think about it. But based on what you just said, actually, I wanted to pull out a lyric here that I had from. Yeah, so you, you were just saying there that often when you look back at your interviews, you can look back and we can be critical and negative. And you write in your new single Gut Punch, I'm gonna read your lyrics back to you, if that's okay.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 29:39Jay Shetty?

  Uh, you said, "Hit me like a gut punch, I hurt my own feelings. How did I get so good at being mean to myself? I should turn the heat down, tell myself to chill out. Damn, I really hate the way I talk to myself. Now, what would it be like if I just tried to be nice to the person that I'm seeing in the mirror? If you find that inner child, haven't seen him for a while, let him know he's doing fine." And I feel like, like when I hear that, I'm like, yeah, I can, I can relate to it. You've got a lot more material to kind of be critical of yourself for that's visible to other people as well. When did you first become aware of the inner critic that was so strong? Like, when did you start to recognize, wait a minute, I can be quite hard on myself?

• 30:23Speaker 02

  I think after I was diagnosed with type one diabetes, a major shift happened in my life where I, I never believed that I did anything to get diabetes. For those that don't know, type one is an autoimmune disease. It's, it's not the same as type two, which can be caused from a number of things. But poor eating habits, lack of exercise would be sort of the main cause of type two. Whereas type one, your body just decides it's gonna stop making insulin naturally. And so then your glucose levels are, it's not possible for them to be in range, which has a number of major side effects. And, and I think the biggest misconception, which I've, I've tried to be a part of, you know, educating people on, because I know it's really just an education issue and, and not, there's no bias per se.

• 31:08Speaker 02

  Um, just people don't know that it can be deadly if it's not treated. So when I reflected, you know, this is when I first started doing therapy, my early twenties, uh, on kind of the way in which I handled living with this disease. Um, I became very critical of.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  How serious I was taking it. Or even the opposite end of that spectrum, which is, am I taking it too seriously? You know, at that time, there was, there's a lot of, a lot of noise made about it because I was sort of the only public person talking about type one in this way as an advocate. And I became really discouraged by some of the feedback. This was the first time I recall feeling, and I'm gonna use a big word here, and I don't mean for it to sound so intense, but feeling betrayed by people. In the sense that I wanted to just be a normal kid like everybody else and not be dealing with this thing.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  I wasn't trying to make a meal out of it. I'm just sharing my truth about this. And it was made to feel like, oh, he's making too big a deal. And it's not that serious. And so I became very critical of like, everything I was doing in that sense, whether I was doing enough to manage it or not enough. And then later on, you know, in, in my life, I was met with a situation where I really kind of fell flat on my face. Not literally, but that would have been better actually than what happened. But I had a TV performance where this guitar solo moment that I was supposed to play as a feature on a Kelsea Ballerini track, just didn't, didn't happen. Like I went blank, I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't recover.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  And I built up this, this skyscraper of, you know, this, this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity. And it was, it was unimaginable how, how important that was to me. For that skyscraper to stay standing and, and not have any cracks in it or anything. And I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. It'd be like taking my singing voice away. Who am I? What do I do? And it was just a really tough season in my life. And everything I did after that, I was just incredibly critical of myself. And then I started to do that thing where you, you make the joke before others can.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  You sort of, you think it's already in the room before you arrive, so you have to, and no one was thinking about it. And that's been true. A number of times in my life where I feel like something's happened that didn't go the way I wanted it to and that everyone's talking about it. And so there's that wrestle of like, am I, am I just a narcissist thinking that this is as important to everybody else?

• 33:59Jay Shetty?

  There's even more judgment.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  And maybe, yeah. And then it's even, it's just a cyclical thing. And so the gut punch lyrics were really important to me because it's the first time I've, I've been able to say this thing that I've felt for a long time. And it wasn't until I got to the bridge where I, I, I wrote that line, my co-writers in the song are amazing and really allowed for me to be this honest. I felt kind of similar to the way I do with you, which is that I can, I can speak more freely because you've created the environment for me to do that feels welcoming and, and warm to that. And they did the same thing. And, and I just started talking about, you know, I said, my, I think my hair stopped growing. Is that even a thing?

• 34:43Speaker 02

  I haven't lost any of it, but something ain't the same. Maybe it's a metaphor, is even that deep? I think my hair stopped growing or, or is it me? And it was sort of like a, a poem that I had wrote in the mirror that morning. And it was funny at first, made me chuckle. Then I realized when I got to the, or is it me part like, oh, that's what it's about. Like I, I actually was surprised that I was, I was willing to be that, uh, honest. A thing maybe I didn't want to say out loud. Anyway, got to the bridge and that, that lyric is my favorite on the album, which is about the inner child because I feel like, as I mentioned before, that kid was fearless and he was just doing it.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  And I, I'd love to spend some time with him again because I, I admire his, his grit, his, uh, fearlessness. I feel like I've, I've reverted to like factory settings or something and, and maybe I need to, I don't know, but he's, he's cool.

• 35:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah. It's, thank you for going there. It's, it's so fascinating to me that we first judge ourselves for mistakes or things that we call mistakes. Then we judge ourselves for judging ourselves because then we're like, wait a minute, why am I judging myself for judging myself? That makes me even worse.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:55Jay Shetty?

  And now you're like three judgments deep on.

• 36:00Jay Shetty?

  Judging yourself for feeling shame and guilt and then judging yourself for the fact that you're judging yourself for having shame and guilt. And, and it feels like a very, everything you just said feels like a very real emotion that each and every one of us can resonate with, right? I'm sure everyone who's listening right now can go, yeah, I've had moments like that when I didn't feel like I did the right thing and then all of a sudden everyone had a viewpoint on it. And whether you have the world watch, watching you or you have your 10 friends or 20 friends in school watching you, proportionately it feels the same.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:30Jay Shetty?

  Uh, you know, and it, it can be so challenging. And when, when you're saying that aloud to me, I'm like, what would you say to that younger self now if you could spend some time with him? And what would you not say to that younger self if you could spend some time with him?

• 36:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would, I would, well, just, just to sort of back to one thing you said.

• 36:48Jay Shetty?

  Please, yeah, yeah, of course.

• 36:49Speaker 02

  This music and these stories, they're all human experiences. It has nothing to do with it being specific to my life, other than it's, you know, my wife and daughter that I'm talking about or, or other situations. But I really wanted to, to make something that everyone could relate to in their own way. So that's one thing. And then the thing I would say to my younger self is, you know, congratulations, you get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jones. Um, that's pretty cool. Uh, and also, you know, your daughter's incredible. She's just, she's magic in every, every sense of the word. Um, she just turned four a couple of weeks ago.

• 37:30Speaker 02

  Uh, blows my mind, you know, I, I look at her and, and I can, I can see her future, like I, I just know she's going to do amazing things. Um, and I, I'm awestruck that I get to experience her magic.

• 37:50Jay Shetty?

  Hmm, that's beautiful, man. Love hearing that. That's so special and happy birthday.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:57Jay Shetty?

  That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure.

• 38:05Jay Shetty?

  What's going through your mind?

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Um, no, she's, she's just perfect in every way and every parent says that, but uh, you know, this morning I was actually at her new preschool to sort of be back there in the context of being a dad, you know, just a wild thing. And, you know, she, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I've not really talked about ever. We were expecting her to arrive in April of the year she was born. And we get a call that it's going to be sooner. So we, we basically, you know, went into

• 38:45Speaker 02

  action and, um, she was born via surrogate. And so we got to the hospital and, um, she came out, she was one pound, 11 ounces. And, you know, purple, basically. Um, they, these angels at the NICU kind of resuscitated her in that moment. And, um, you know, got her taken care of really quickly and intubated and everything else. And, and so, um, because it was COVID times, my wife and I would basically, um, do 12 hour shifts at the hospital for

• 39:26Speaker 02

  three and a half months. I can still sort of like smell it. You know, there's always visceral things. It's, it's, it was both comforting and frightening to be there every day and to see sort of other families going through similar situations. Um, but she fought every day, uh, for three and a half months. And, you know, slowly started to gain some weight. And after six blood transfusions, she was, she was doing great and, and, uh,

• 39:57Speaker 02

  You know, we got to take her home after three and a half months. And I feel like she knows how she entered the world and what that first chapter of her life was like. And so every day is a gift. And you can actually feel it on her.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  In the way that she behaves and how exciting everything is, I don't know how much she remembers, probably nothing. But spiritually, I believe that there's gratitude in her and you know, she's incredible.

• 40:29Jay Shetty?

  I mean, thank you for sharing that with us. I feel like that's the behind the scenes that no one has a clue about and you know, we're not aware of. And talk to me about the conversations that you and Priyanka are having because I think the part that people forget when you have a child that's going through any sort of difficulty is that you're obviously worried about the child, but then it also affects the relationship with your partner because you're both worried about the child. What were the kind of conversations you were having that was helping you both and supporting you both?

• 41:00Speaker 02

  We had a lot of tough conversations day in, day out about caring for her.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  You know, trying to, trying to care for each other and for her and focusing on not getting overwhelmed. It can all just feel so big and parenthood in general is, is, it's a lot for everybody, you know, especially in those early stages of a kid's life. And this just became about staying emotionally tough and being there for each other.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  If you need to, to cry, you know, that shoulder is, is there and ready to, to cry on. If you need to just have a laugh for a minute, just to take your mind off, try to provide that for the other person. A lot of give and take from both of us. And

• 41:44Speaker 02

  you know, my, my wife is just, as, as you know, she's a brilliant, brilliant woman with a ton of heart and perspective and the way in which she handled it. Was so inspiring to me and uh you know allowing for those those days to be tough, but to be tougher for our little girl um was the focus.

• 42:08Jay Shetty?

  Was was there something you'd share with other couples who go through their own version of that that you think would be really helpful to them?

• 42:17Speaker 02

  The thing that helped us the most was being patient with each other. It is hard sometimes when you're feeling emotional to sort of access that logical brain to say we need to be patient, we need to to just meet your person where they are in that moment. And that that goes both ways. And so, you know, being patient with your your partner is is crucial.

• 42:42Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I can imagine those 12 hour shifts back to back for three months felt like they lasted forever.

• 42:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:49Jay Shetty?

  I can feel like it didn't feel like three months. It must have felt like it's never ending.

• 42:54Speaker 02

  Well, it's not the kind of thing that you ever want to find a routine doing. You know, it's it's bizarre when you're when you're used to uh going to the hospital every day, you know, it's it's all like a tough reality check.

• 43:08Jay Shetty?

  Because she had to be kept in hospital, right?

• 43:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, she was in the NICU for three and a half months. Yeah. So, you know, just driving there and back each day and and seeing each other sort of as passing ships was a crazy thing. And I'll just say this about the NICU nurses, they are truly angels. And we've, you know, seen a few at some of our shows. Priyanka spoke about this experience once before in an interview. And so some people knew. And so there were some NICU nurses at a couple of the shows. And there was hold up the sign and it makes me cry every time I see it because they're they're angels. And we actually got to have some of the nurses

• 43:51Speaker 02

  that were taking care of multi Marie come out to a show and I met them um after or sorry, just before. And it was, uh, yeah, incredible to see. And I got to show them a photo of her now. She's, she's no longer one pound, 11 ounces.

• 44:10Speaker 02

  Beautiful, healthy little four-year-old girl.

• 44:12Jay Shetty?

  I love that. Has she been out to see some of you?

• 44:15Speaker 02

  She has. Yeah, she, um, she loves our song, "Love Me to Heaven." She sings it at the top of her lungs and basically she's got the bug already. She wants to be on stage and so Priyanka has to stand side stage with her, holding her dress back. So she doesn't run on the stage with us. She doesn't quite understand that, that, you know, she, she can't join just yet. But I'm sure she will someday.

• 44:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 44:44Jay Shetty?

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• 47:14Jay Shetty?

  You spoke about how, you know, you congratulate your younger self for marrying. Which I love. And I think you guys have been married for what, seven years now?

• 47:24Speaker 02

  Seven years.

• 47:24Jay Shetty?

  Seven years. And I wanted to ask you because your relationship is so special, even even from the outside in. And for those who don't know you, I think everyone, you know, loves that. What, did you know from the moment you met, like, was it that early and that clear? Is it one of those, if you know, you know? When you know.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  In some ways. You know, I was first kind of introduced to Priyanka. By way of seeing her billboard on Sunset Boulevard for her show Quantico. And I was like, wow, she's stunning, is what I thought. And I was doing this movie with this guy who had just worked with her and he said, hey, you know, you guys would really hit it off. But he never connected us. So after a few months of waiting to be connected, I got impatient and went on Twitter and saw she followed me. Which she claims we followed each other, I didn't. But I saw she followed me, so I DM'd her. And we messaged for about a year before we kind of ever met in person.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  And then we finally met up for a drink in New York. I almost left because she was about forty five minutes late. Which, which I now know is a, is a thing.

• 48:34Jay Shetty?

  Right.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  I expect that. But I thankfully I stayed and she sat down and we, we had a great conversation and

• 48:44Speaker 02

  went back to her place after to have another drink. And as we walked in, her mom was there watching Law and Order. So I met her mother on the first night that we met, which is perfect. It wasn't until about a year after that, after talking, you know, back and forth that I, I was like, we need to really give this a proper, proper go. It's when you're back in L A next, let's go on a date. And that night, when I saw her walk in, uh, she was wearing blue jeans, a white top and like a black leather jacket. And I just was like, I'm gonna marry this woman. And I knew it right away. I told her that I loved her after the second or third date. And I called my mom the next day and said, I'm gonna marry this woman.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  I'd love for you to meet her soon. It was literally two and a half months after that that we were engaged and three months after that or four months after that that we were married. Seven years later, it's crazy.

• 49:38Jay Shetty?

  That's awesome. I love that. Yeah, I love that. It is, is when, in that sense, when you know, you know, there's, I'm thinking about it as you're explaining it like you've, you know, as I was saying, people are obsessed about you guys' relationship, you know, analyzing it constantly. How have you protected that even when you're going through things like in the NICU like?

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:58Jay Shetty?

  You know, everyone's excited for you guys to have kids. There's, you know, you're in the public eye, both of you, massive superstars. And how have you protected that relationship through all of that?

• 50:07Speaker 02

  For some people on paper, maybe at first it wasn't like the right fit. Maybe it's the fact that we do have an age difference, we're from different parts of the world. All those things are exactly why it's right and why it works and is so beautiful. There's so much about the Indian culture, which I've, I've gotten to know and love, family and the importance of family and. Big families being, you know, at the, at the center of that and, and I really took to all the, the cultural differences and loves, um, not just, you know, the family aspect, but the food and, and friends and just all of it. And so that was like perfect. Check that box.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  And, and then like our, our age difference was something that I think really bonds us. And, and I've lived a lot of life and, and, you know, 33 years. And so I think having someone who, who has real perspective and, and depth and, and wanted to build a life together was something that I was, was really drawn to. Um, and the way we protect it, uh, I think is by finding ways to, to laugh through tough moments, you know, not going to bed angry and knowing that our ability to build life together and to have our, our privacy is, is on us. It's, it's no one else's responsibility. And so, you know, we have to, we have to find those times to just be a family, to just have the three of us be together and have those

• 51:33Speaker 02

  quiet moments and, and really prioritize it. Cause that, that is our only job as parents is to, to just create environment where she feels safe to, to grow and be herself. And, and it really starts with, with my wife and I building that. And, um, it's, it's for no one else but us.

• 51:53Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I was saying, I love the way you've celebrated the culture together. I was saying that the Diwali party at yours.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:00Jay Shetty?

  Few years back, you were throwing these incredible Diwali parties, like the best Diwali parties I've ever been to. And it would be like, yeah, I mean, first of all, you look great in a kurta too. So it's like, yeah, but then like, I remember Joe being in a full shirani too. And like, you guys, it felt like a wedding, but you had like the best Diwali food, best decorations, the candle lights. I mean, it was spectacular. And to, to celebrate that with you and for you to invite so many of your friends who may not be aware of Diwali and the culture and the way you both brought that in LA was, was so spectacular. Like I loved it. It was one of my, it was without a doubt, one of my favorite Diwali parties ever. So.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  We had the best time. It was, it was a, an amazing thing to, to bring the Desi culture into LA like that. And to feel so many of our friends who, who hadn't experienced it, just having the time of their life. You know, I think Indians know how to do holidays way better than, than, than we do here in the US.

• 52:53Jay Shetty?

  Well, well, well, based on that, I don't know if you know this, but Priyanka has sent some answers to some questions.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 52:59Jay Shetty?

  That we asked her.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 53:01Jay Shetty?

  Beforehand. So I'm gonna ask you the same questions. And and from what I know, I was I was telling the team when we were preparing for this, I was like, you know, Nick's really good at details. Like, I was like, I've seen Nick talk about Priyanka, like, he doesn't miss a beat. And we shared that. I'm like that when me and my wife talk, I'm like, I know all the details.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:16Jay Shetty?

  I know what she was wearing. I know what date it was. She has no clue.

• 53:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:19Jay Shetty?

  And so I was like, I can relate to Nick on that. But anyway, let's see, let's see who's right. So this game is called, What Did Your Wife Say? And Priyanka sent her answers. So they're all real answers. They've been verified. So what was Priyanka's first impression of Nick?

• 53:36Jay Shetty?

  What would she say?

• 53:37Speaker 02

  Handsome? No. I think she probably thought that I was

• 53:44Speaker 02

  you know, sort of quiet, as we discussed, you know, reserved, choosing my words carefully or whatever. I was surprised at how candid she was and funny, you know, she's she to me at that point, I had seen her interviews and things, and she's she's quite regal, right? She has this real, like, presence about her. And I and so I don't know, expected to make it. But I was, I think

• 54:11Speaker 02

  she would say that I was like trying to seem more adult or something.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  Because she she talks about how she thought I was like putting on a bit of an act, like, this is just who I am. Sorry.

• 54:22Jay Shetty?

  Is that so? She says, it shows how well you know each other. She goes, he was acting older than he is. He took me to a bougie bar with an average age of sixty five.

• 54:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's true. That's true.

• 54:34Jay Shetty?

  That's true. Sixty five?

• 54:36Speaker 02

  I mean, around that. It's a great bar. It's got a nice little jazz quartet. I thought it was good.

• 54:43Jay Shetty?

  Okay. Second question, where was your first kiss?

• 54:47Speaker 02

  First kiss was on the balcony at her hotel.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Right here in Los Angeles.

• 54:56Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, she was very specific. She said the peninsula in L A.

• 54:59Speaker 02

  Peninsula.

• 55:00Jay Shetty?

  On date number two.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 55:01Jay Shetty?

  So if anyone wants to

• 55:04Jay Shetty?

  go and visit that site, you can be specific.

• 55:07Speaker 02

  The site of the first kiss.

• 55:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Who said I love you first?

• 55:10Speaker 02

  I did. Yeah.

• 55:11Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, she said Nick, three to four days in.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:14Jay Shetty?

  What was the moment you realized that Nick was the one?

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 55:19Speaker 02

  Maybe when I went to India with her for the first time.

• 55:23Jay Shetty?

  He said when he asked me to marry him and I said yes.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  Oh, well, that's good timing.

• 55:29Jay Shetty?

  It's like, yeah, just, just in time. That's amazing.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  Just in time.

• 55:32Jay Shetty?

  What would Priyanka say Nick was the most nervous about on your wedding day?

• 55:36Speaker 02

  To be honest, I wasn't, I wasn't that nervous about anything on the wedding day. It was just, it was hot. So I was, I was nervous I was gonna be sweating and that I would look crazy. But, uh, no, I, I think when she, when she walked out, she came down the stairs. I felt this overwhelming sense of peace, like I was exactly where I was supposed to be.

• 56:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, she agrees. She says, he was so sure, in control. I never saw him nervous. So you, you hid the sweats well. That's, that's impressive. That's, I know those Indian outfits get so hot. Oh my, that is one thing they need to figure out. Every time I'm wearing a kurto, I'm like, this is so hot. I don't understand. Anyone does in India. What is Priyanka's favorite song of Nick's?

• 56:22Speaker 02

  I think, um, I believe.

• 56:27Jay Shetty?

  She says Close.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  Close? Oh, that's right. I did know that. Close. She loves Close. Yeah.

• 56:34Jay Shetty?

  So that's the only wrong one so far. That's, this is really, this is going great. We've got a few more. What is Priyanka's favorite dish Nick cooks for her?

• 56:41Speaker 02

  I can't really, uh, cook that well. I make sandwiches sometimes.

• 56:45Jay Shetty?

  She says tuna sandwich. Yeah, that's what she picked. Yeah.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  That's about all, all I can do.

• 56:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Yeah, me too. I, I can't cook to save my life. So, uh, what is Nick's most annoying habit?

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Uh, I, I cannot think of what she's gonna say for this. Overthinking?

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Is that, is that a fair answer?

• 57:07Jay Shetty?

  She goes, when he's talking to me on the phone and typing a text. Lol.

• 57:10Speaker 02

  She does hate that. She'll ask me, hey, can you make sure to send this message to it? I'm like, yeah, yeah. So I'm doing it in real time so I don't forget.

• 57:18Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, totally.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  She's like, I'm on the phone with you. I'm like, but you just.

• 57:21Jay Shetty?

  You just told me. Yeah, I don't wanna forget.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  So I'm gonna write it down.

• 57:23Jay Shetty?

  I'm with you. I'm with you on that one. I'm on your side.

• 57:25Speaker 02

  A separate device.

• 57:26Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. You're just being productive and efficient. Yeah. What does Priyanka do that really annoys Nick?

• 57:32Speaker 02

  She will answer the phone and then be talking to someone else in the room for like 30 seconds before she then. My thing is always just like, just call me back if you're in the middle of a conversation. But it's like. Literally, we'll be talking.

• 57:46Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  And as if I'm on the phone with her, it's connected, but we're still talking. And she goes, hey, what's up? I'm like, hi.

• 57:55Speaker 02

  It's not like a real thing, annoying thing. It's just funny.

• 57:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, she goes, interrupt him when he's talking, but it's actually the other way around. It's, it's calling you and then talking to someone else. I love that. What would Priyanka say is the thing Nick does that makes her laugh every time?

• 58:11Speaker 02

  Not a good answer, but I don't know. What is it?

• 58:14Jay Shetty?

  When he's being Desi, it's an endearing laugh.

• 58:17Speaker 02

  That's, that's nice.

• 58:19Jay Shetty?

  And then final one, what is Nick way too competitive about?

• 58:23Speaker 02

  Most things, I would say.

• 58:25Jay Shetty?

  She said everything.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Everything. Well, that's pretty good.

• 58:28Jay Shetty?

  You did good, Nick. I mean, you did, I literally think you got like two wrong out of like 20 questions.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 58:35Jay Shetty?

  That's pretty impressive. So you are competitive at everything, cause.

• 58:38Speaker 02

  I am.

• 58:38Jay Shetty?

  You did pretty good. I love that. But Nick, one thing that I think, you know, genuinely, and you know, even from the way you've talked today, you're such a, it feels like you're trying to be such a present, good husband. I wanted to ask you, what, what is a good husband? What makes a good husband? What are you aspiring to be when you're trying to be a good husband?

• 58:58Speaker 02

  I think that being a good husband for me means being reliable, trustworthy.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Knowing that

• 59:11Speaker 02

  our daughter is watching and will one day,

• 59:17Speaker 02

  hopefully find somebody that makes her incredibly happy. And the way in which I treat her mother is incredibly important to who she becomes. So it is my, my responsibility to do all I can to make Priyanka happy, to feel safe and to make her laugh. To, to know that, that life is a mixed bag of emotions and experiences. And it can feel really disorienting and overwhelming sometimes. But it's a lot easier to traverse all that. With a partner who you can rely on.

• 1:00:00Jay Shetty?

  Hmm. Well said. Really, really well said. Where with your inner critic, where in your married life have you had to give yourself more grace?

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  I can be reactive. It's part of being a sibling. I feel, you know, we all do that, right? We and you kind of do it when you're growing up because you're fighting for your place in the dynamic of the family and you share that space with these people's, you know, kids and teens, you kind of have to fight for yourself a little bit and defend and being defensive, I feel like is an area in my my life as a whole, but also my marriage that I I'm always trying to improve on. Thinking that, you know, that a a comment of any kind is somehow a criticism of me. I'm like, I'm supposed to just trust this person to to care for me and and yet I'm being defensive about a thing that's so insignificant. And

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  what am I trying to protect is the thing I always think about like, and it's this guy, this other version of me that I I somehow believe is like, perfect. Like, how stupid can I be? That's not only impossible, it's just dumb. Like, you just and I I've seen that the times in my relationship with my wife where I'm quicker to, you know, a hug as opposed to something defensive or trying to defend myself, it's like, just better. Life is better.

• 1:01:32Jay Shetty?

  Aren't we all? We could all relate to that.

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:35Jay Shetty?

  Always trying to protect my ego, protect my, you know, sense of self when when in reality, it's, yeah, it's this trying to protect this perfect version of me that definitely doesn't exist. And yeah, you're just, yeah, it's it's crazy what you what you could risk losing by trying to protect something that

• 1:01:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Jay Shetty?

  that isn't isn't isn't even real, you know?

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  So true.

• 1:01:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I want to pick up another lyric that I loved. You write in your song Princesses. I use my imagination for a living. I tell stories and build worlds. But I never wanted one more than this one with my little girl. I'm fascinated by your questions. I'm terrified to let you down. There's no one and nowhere that I'd rather be than with you here right now. And even when you started this interview, you talked about how your sense of self has changed so much since being a father.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:26Jay Shetty?

  What has been the thing that surprised you most about yourself since having your daughter?

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  From being totally honest, which I want to be.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  Thing surprised me most is how easy it was to play make believe and to be silly and do a kid voice. Like I was never one of those people that did the oh, no, no, that kind of voice. And all of a sudden, I'm just doing it. I always was embarrassed to be silly.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  And I'm not with her. And I love the world that she builds with her mind. And getting to spend time with her there is really incredible. And I think it's made me a better friend and husband and better creator, you know, as I approach my songwriting now and, you know, the work I do as an actor, I feel like I'm way more prepared for that because I've gotten to spend time in her world. And it's this magical place where like anything's possible. You know, and such a wonderful, wonderful thing.

• 1:03:44Jay Shetty?

  What was your, what was both of your reasons for wanting to keep her out of the spotlight and keep her personal life pretty private?

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  It should be her choice.

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  I'm grateful that my parents supported our dream and that they, they never, you know, looked back or questioned it. They, they ran with us, which was wonderful. And we all knew this is what we wanted to do. She has not expressed that yet. If she, if she does, we'll support her, you know, and.

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  And give her all the context that that we have from the the twenty plus years that we've both been doing what we've been doing. That might be helpful, but it should be her choice. And, you know, the world is is crazy, too. It's a weird, weird world. And so I think it's it's better for her to take her time and, you know, have have the privacy that that she needs to become who she wants to become.

• 1:04:52Jay Shetty?

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• 1:06:34Jay Shetty?

  We were talking earlier about as we get older, we almost get more scared. And you were talking about your younger self being so fearless. What are the fears that came up after having a daughter? And what were the fears that went away after becoming a dad?

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  I have not been formally diagnosed with anxiety. I mentioned I speak to a therapist. She's wonderful and has given me a lot of tools that are helpful. When I feel kind of overwhelmed or anxious. And naturally during the time that we discussed where our daughter was in the NICU. It was a stressful and overwhelming time. And I think having that as the sort of foundation for her entry into the world. Made me anxious about everything. Not just parenting and all that, but but life in general.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  And so I've had a few moments where I've had flare ups. I guess where I was stressed to a degree that didn't feel comfortable. And I think a lot of parents can probably relate to that. You know, it's a you you're basically when you leave the hospital. They ask you, are you ready to take your daughter home? It's like, yeah, of course, I, you know. But it's a crazy question to be asked. You're like, I get, yeah, I am. I'm ready to take my daughter home. And that like meant more than just that moment. It was like her whole life.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Suddenly I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm responsible for, you know, this person. So.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's the, the positives that I've taken is, as I mentioned, that the ability to to just be silly and carefree and, and see the world the way she does. And, and all these experiences are so amazing again, things that can seem mundane as you get older and you just kind of, you know, glass is clear. Why is glass clear? Is one of the questions she asked me. And it's like, it's a fascinating question. Why, how? Find myself on Google, like researching all this stuff that I just sort of accepted. And now this person, this little four-year-old person's like, why? And you get to ask the questions yourself. And, and why are people

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  mean? It's like, it's a great question, probably because they're hurting. And it's, it's just, everything gets sort of, it goes through this new filter that is really exciting.

• 1:09:20Jay Shetty?

  It's amazing how both the things you said are literally counter opposites in that one part of you, of course, has anxiety and care and fear for this, you know, child that you love and has gone through this, you know, very difficult beginning to her life, but has blossomed and, you know, grown so beautifully. And then at the other end, it's like, oh, but I'm also more carefree and like, now I get to explore and now I get to be curious. And it's so fascinating how like, life does that to you. Like, I'm just sitting here, literally reflecting on and listening to you going, how strange, like the same thing that naturally you have a sense of fear and anxiety around is the same thing that's teaching you to be carefree and be, and it's like, how do, how does, how does a human even, you know, make sense of that? Like, how do you make sense of that in the human experience? It's, with

• 1:10:05Jay Shetty?

  your anxiety, has that been something that you've, because that feels like more new despite you having, you know, such a life in the public eye. We talked about all the events building up to even this point. But I think, yeah, having a kid and getting older feels like. There's an anxiety that parents get around that that's, you know, incomparable to anything they've experienced before. What what's really helped you? What's worked for you as a way to say this really helps me when I'm experiencing those moments or phases?

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  I think moving my body in some way always helps getting physical, whether that's working out or or taking a long walk, playing golf. I really enjoy playing golf. But when I was in New York this last year doing this Broadway show,

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  I had about a forty five minute walk from our apartment to the theater each day. And it was so important to my routine. The show itself is incredibly intense. And, you know, the subject material was just like heavy. So I needed a way to process some of those those feelings each each day. And on top of that, it's just it's a lot of work. Eight shows a week, six days a week. And so it's, you know, it was a lot. And so those walks were important.

• 1:11:21Speaker 02

  And then, you know, speaking to my my therapist, it's not even like there's practices per se, but there's just, I think, real health in a routine and and just talking. I used to judge myself and kind of during that process, like, talking with therapists and like, am I being as truthful as I need to be to get the results I'm hoping to get? And I don't think that I always was as transparent as as I probably needed to be.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  With this person that I speak to, it's great because I I do feel that that freedom, that safety to to speak. And and like, there's there's real balance. And for for all the the men out there, it's important. There is a stigma still for a lot of people, and there shouldn't be.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  And you're going to see like incredible results in your life if you if you do it.

• 1:12:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. And and it takes a second to get honest with someone. I mean, it's it's not. You know, it's it's hard to even sit with someone who's a stranger and doesn't know anything about your life and really be honest, especially someone like yourself who has such a public life and you can garner so much. I mean, I was I was thinking about like, I saw your response to everyone wondering what was happening at the Golden Globes and you responded saying it hit you like a gut punch. And I was like, what was that for you? What was happening at the Golden Globes that you were going through?

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I I this is like the second time I'm mentioning this on on this conversation, but heat like really gets me. And because I have a you know, a sort of physical aspect of that as well with my my type one diabetes, it can just have an effect, right? So I was, I was just really hot on the carpet and then I started stressing that I looked like I was sweating. My hands were getting clammy and holding breakers like everything kind of hit me at once. Then my sugar started to feel or glucose started to feel a little low and and so I just took a step, went outside, I guess, in fresh air and and you know, it's funny like we're all the same, right? Like we get overwhelmed, we get hot. It's like

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  it's a lot happening. And so I just was like, you know what? There's no harm in just taking a beat for myself. That's that's what I did. Had a sip of water and was back in action.

• 1:13:44Jay Shetty?

  I'm glad you gave everyone else permission to do the same.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, everyone, if you need a second, take a second.

• 1:13:49Jay Shetty?

  I I'm so far away from this world. Obviously, I didn't grow up in this world. And then when you you know, get onto a red carpet and you just realize, especially for someone like yourself, Priyanka, etc., of just like the amount of people shouting your name, the amount of stops that you have to do, how quickly everything moves, like, you know, TV interview, video interview, this, that, it's it's so chaotic. Those red carpets, especially at those big events, that I think there's it's it's hard to understand why it would feel stressful because it almost looks really glamorous in the pictures and

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  And to some degree it is, but

• 1:14:20Jay Shetty?

  But it isn't as well, like, you know.

• 1:14:22Speaker 02

  It can be a lot.

• 1:14:23Jay Shetty?

  I think more often than not, people feel quite anxious on red carpets, from what I've heard, at least from talking to people.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  Especially when it's like 95 degrees. I think it was a cold week in L.A. and they had it tinted, thinking it was going to be cold and it ended up being a really hot day. So it was just kind of cooking. And it was, you know, the only positive from that was that it was a really good conversation starter inside.

• 1:14:44Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  Immediately it could be like, how hot was the carpet, huh? And it just sort of broke the ice.

• 1:14:50Jay Shetty?

  That's so good. Yeah, yeah, that definitely does help. Yeah, that or if it's raining in L A becomes a great conversation. Very rare to happen too. Nick, it's been uh it's been amazing talking to you and I really appreciate how honest you've been, how you know thoughtful you've been, just I felt like I've laughed with you. You know, you've you've brought us all to really emotional moments of just like sitting with you through the journey you've been on. And I feel like as a man, listening to someone who is speaking so openly about therapy, about self-work, about being a loving father, husband, I think you're just setting a wonderful example and and also a human example. I think one that is real and you know, isn't perfect and isn't coming across as this is how to do it. But it's like this

• 1:15:32Jay Shetty?

  is the reality of everything I'm trying to juggle. And and I think as someone who I I hope I get to be a dad one day, it's like, it's nice to see the, you know, the thoughts that will probably go through my head too, and and the realities of what it feels like when you're finally holding this human that you love so deeply and get to experience the carefree, curious, but also the stress and the anxiety that comes with it. So thank you for giving us all the layers.

• 1:15:56Speaker 02

  Of course. Thank you for asking such thoughtful questions and you'll be an amazing father someday. So I I hope that for you. And um, you know, I I certainly um, I'll be the first to admit, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I'm just trying to do my best, I guess. And you know, my my dad set a pretty incredible example. And all the sort of, you know, memories there are things I'm trying to take into and apply into my life my life now. So thanks for the conversation. This was great.

• 1:16:32Jay Shetty?

  I love it. Thank you so much. We created a special ending for you, seeing as your new single is called Gut Punch. We're going to play a game called Gut Reaction.

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:16:44Jay Shetty?

  So you have to finish the sentence with the first word or phrase that pops into your head.

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 1:16:48Jay Shetty?

  What is the best advice you've ever received?

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  Live like you're at the bottom, even if you're at the top.

• 1:16:53Jay Shetty?

  That is a great answer. We've never had that before. I love that. All right. Second question. What is the worst advice you've ever heard or received?

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  Take this tequila shot.

• 1:17:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:06Jay Shetty?

  It's a good answer.

• 1:17:07Speaker 02

  Never, never a good idea.

• 1:17:09Jay Shetty?

  You're good at gut reactions, so this is good. The brother I call when I need to be brutally honest is?

• 1:17:17Speaker 02

  Joe, but all, all three of my brothers, but you know, yeah.

• 1:17:22Jay Shetty?

  Prob-

• 1:17:23Speaker 02

  Joe.

• 1:17:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. My guilty pleasure artist or song is?

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  This is not a one word answer, I'm sorry, but I don't believe in guilty pleasures. I think you should be able to love whatever you love. There's good in everything. I feel the same way about TV.

• 1:17:37Speaker 02

  But there are shows that are just trash, which I love.

• 1:17:40Jay Shetty?

  So what is the artist or song that isn't a guilty pleasure, but you're allowed to love?

• 1:17:45Speaker 02

  Nickelback. It's great. I love the songs, they're fantastic.

• 1:17:50Jay Shetty?

  I love it. Uh, the thing I hate admitting Priyanka is always right about is?

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  People.

• 1:17:56Jay Shetty?

  Ah, wow.

• 1:17:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's always right about people. Before I can see it, I'm like, damn, she's right again.

• 1:18:03Jay Shetty?

  Wow, that's, that's a good skill to have.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Not always negative either, it's not like she's skeptical of people, but she has, she's really perceptive and, and listens, so you know, it's, yeah.

• 1:18:13Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that. All right, fifth and final question we ask this to every guest who's ever been on the show. If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?

• 1:18:22Speaker 02

  I think teachers should get paid more. So yeah, let's make that a law.

• 1:18:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  But-

• 1:18:30Jay Shetty?

  We'll probably have the NICU nurses to that as well.

• 1:18:32Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:18:33Jay Shetty?

  They're amazing people who are working super hard every day, making, making the country actually function.

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  So true.

• 1:18:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Nick Jonas, so excited for Sunday Best and for everyone to listen to it. Thank you for, uh, being such a joy to spend time with, I'm so grateful that

• 1:18:48Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 1:18:49Jay Shetty?

  we got to do this and I hope we get to do it again. We've got to get you and Priyanka back together at some point. That's, that's my big goal.

• 1:18:54Speaker 02

  I would love that.

• 1:18:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun. Thank you, man.

• 1:18:57Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:18:58Jay Shetty?

  If you loved this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion.

• 1:19:09Speaker 04

  My fears are only going to continue to show me what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, the more that I feel I'm gaining strength and gaining wisdom and I just want to keep doing that.

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