Alexis Ren ON: Breaking Negative Cycles and Letting Go of the Lies We Tell Ourselves

You can order my new book 8 RULES OF LOVE at 8rulesoflove.com or at a retail store near you. You can also get the chance to see me live on my first ever world tour. This is a 90 minute interactive show where I will take you on a journey of finding, keeping and even letting go of love. Head to jayshettytour.com and find out if I'll be in a city near you. Thank you so much for all your support - I hope to see you soon. Alexis sits down with Jay Shetty to talk about how her late mother influenced her to be her own person, to always treat failures and heartbreaks as stepping stones to where she is headed, to validate pain and the lessons they teach, and to see the positivity in things life throws at you. Alexis Ren is a model, actress, and one of the most influential personalities on social media. At 24, aside from being a strong advocate of mental health, women empowerment, and environmental protection, she has also built a strong community for women dealing with different mental and emotional issues as well as sharing her own life struggles and experiences. Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally! What We Discuss with Alexis: 00:00 Intro 02:33 There are so many live we want to live 03:46 Learning all the aspects of a healthy relationship 06:01 Going deep into your own creativity at a young age 10:37 Scouted for modelling at 14 12:12 When her mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer 15:03 Financial independence and the social media attention 19:48 First time playing a character 20:39 Keep saying your name until you hear your voice drop back into your identity 24:49 Taking a break from Hollywood 29:14 Self-reflection amidst bullying and trolling 31:17 Heroes are people that continuously admit why they are not 35:09 Notes are gold, go make them 38:10 Acting is a tool used to either get closer to yourself or farther away from it 42:02 Talking to girls in a live call about traumas 44:06 If you can just make someone smile, the world will become a better place 45:10 We Are Warriors is an educational and personal wellness community 52:02 When you get lost in your role and forget your purpose 53:38 The public is creating characters for you in any public relationship 56:44 Seeing heartbreaks as growing pains 01:00:48 None of our struggles won’t last forever 01:03:39 Your greatest connection to the other side are the people you lost 01:06:15 The things that weren’t meant to be is serving what’s meant to be 01:08:09 An intention on something before you do it is powerful 01:14:16 Pain is pain, its valid when it happens 01:17:15 Proving how many characters you can be when acting 01:21:44 Show the universe you’re having fun with what’s handed to you 01:26:33 Every Disney movie always has a comical side character 01:28:47 Alexis on the Final Five Episode Resources: Alexis Ren | Instagram Alexis Ren | Twitter Alexis Ren | YouTube Alexis Ren | Facebook Ren Active We Are Warriors See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:20Speaker 01

  It was Mother's Day 2014. My mom collapsed on the floor. We didn't know what was wrong with her. Me and my sister was like, I don't know what's wrong with her. We got my mom to the hospital and the next day they were like, she has terminal cancer. She's gonna die in like a couple of days. And we were like, what?

• 2:44Jay Shetty?

  Hey, everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn and grow. I am so grateful to all of you that lend us your ears and your eyes every single week because you're making this possible. Our On Purpose community is amazing and community is something at the heart of what we're going to be speaking about today. And I am so excited to be talking to you today. I can't believe it. My new book, Eight Rules of Love, is out and I cannot wait to share it with you. I am so, so excited for you to read this book, for you to listen to this book. I read the audiobook.

• 3:27Jay Shetty?

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• 4:12Jay Shetty?

  moments and I'm already excited for you. I'm talking about none other than actress and entrepreneur Alexis Renn. Alexis, thanks for being here.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Thank you so much. That was so cool hearing that and then being here, like, sitting in this chair with you and listening to that introduction. I'm so honored to be here. Actually, I've been thinking about it this whole week. Like, I've looked, literally from like 18 up until now, I've looked up to you and the people that you've attracted into your life. And then to be one of those people you've attracted, my heart's like...

• 4:44Speaker 01

  Thank you.

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• 7:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 7:16Jay Shetty?

  And we used to bump into each other in the gym all the time and used to bump into my wife.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  I'd just be like,

• 7:23Speaker 01

  hi, I love you.

• 7:27Jay Shetty?

  And you just bumped into my wife in the elevator all the time.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  I was like, nice sweater.

• 7:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and you're just, you know, I've also been following your journey and you probably didn't even know that.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  No, I had no idea.

• 7:36Jay Shetty?

  And I've been following your journey and I've been so, honestly, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, been so blown away by your activism and advocacy for mental health awareness.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 7:47Jay Shetty?

  Your work for women's empowerment, the beautiful community that you just launched last year called We Are Warriors, which we're going to talk about today. Like, your work is so beyond what many know. And I'm so glad that I get to sit down to help you share that story because I really think that, and, and I felt it only today, you just have this amazing energy that surrounds you wherever you go. And so I want you to know that.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Thank you so much. I feel like I, um, one of the things I do is I like spread myself like very thin because I feel like, I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this. There's like so many different lives I want to live that I just dabble and then I don't give like, this year I've been like, let's just focus on one thing at a time. I'm like, that's kind of like what my team is saying. And so I'm like, I'm, I'm focusing on one thing at a time. But it's, there's a, like, as you know, as if you've been following my journey, I've, have just so many different passions and loves. And I also like, like, there's just so much to fix here, like to, I'm just, I'm like, oh my God. Like the second I was like, looked around, because you know how like you're kind of in your head? And then at one point you're just like, huh, like you're like early twenties, like whoa.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  I was like, if you don't, if you don't feel you have a purpose, I can point out five, like, right? Like, there is so much that like just needs service and help. And, um, I, when I first, I almost felt paralyzed when I like first saw how many, well, one, like, on the mental health aspect, just like, uh, our relationship with our parents and like how that stems and how we just continue this weird cycle and how can I help break these cycles? So we can create like new beliefs, new patterns and help heal, especially for females in general, because we've been suppressed, but just in all aspects of. What are healthy relationships? What is normal? Because the normal we've been living is not healthy. So what is the new normal? Right? So it's just like going into those subjects.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  And then, of course, like, I'm like, Earth! Oh, no! I didn't even know! I'm so sorry! And like going into like plastic, the plastic pandemic and like, and then learning the like, how the thing that has blessed me so much, social media has actually been hurting so many people. And that of the girls that have been following me and it like broke my heart. Just like, there's just so many things that broke my heart. And those, it almost like when my heart broken, I was like, there's a path. And then I just would keep like going through those things. And then I, you know, I grew up as a model and that was like all I knew. And so my self-worth was very much on like, well, I'm pretty. And that's, that's my offering. Like, I'm pretty.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  And so I felt very scared because I was like, I want to just like reach my hand out, out of this box that I've been in. And there was a lot of back, you know, people being like, why? Does she have anything to say about any of these topics? But I was like, can we all just talk about them then? So like, it's okay? Because there's just a lot. And then that's, I would, it was almost like I would just like step, kind of like a mermaid coming out to like, you know, just like stepping like, I can, I can turn into, I can speak on different things. And so just finding my way through the puzzle. My, my god sister always says this and I believe it. She says, there's no problem, only puzzle pieces. And like just trying to figure out what goes where. That's been like a series of last couple of years.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Been very interesting.

• 11:05Jay Shetty?

  I love that. We're going to talk about each and every one of those because you've just shared so much with us. And, and I want to thank you for just your vulnerability across the whole time. Like, you've always never been scared of just diving into what your heart cares about. And I think that's beautiful to see. But let's start with. What was Alexis's first passion ever? When was the first time you felt that passion, that interest, that curiosity about something? Back to when you were tiny, like whatever age you want to go to?

• 11:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, so I was homeschooled my entire life. I've never set foot in a classroom. And so that really gave me the opportunity to just like go deep into like my own creativity. And you know, it was the three, three girls all being homeschooled. So there's a lot to handle my mom.

• 11:51Jay Shetty?

  Are you the eldest of the youngest?

• 11:52Speaker 01

  I'm the middle child.

• 11:53Jay Shetty?

  And your parents decided to do this with three girls?

• 11:55Speaker 01

  My mom, my dad was like, okay. My mom was like, I'm doing this. She was very, I feel like the term woke is very much overused, but she, back then, like, I mean, she homeschooled herself through college. It was very, very different back in then. It was just not accepted. I spent so much time being in front of the camera, like creating music videos. Like it was all I wanted to do. And because I didn't, I wasn't around, the only people I was around were the people that accepted me. I just went full force into whatever creative thing I was doing. And it was really interesting because my mom, she was obsessed with being like, what are you interested? And then we'll learn subjects based off of that subject.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  So for instance, I fell in love with ballet. That was my first, I would say that was my first passion. And she was like, okay, we're going to learn history through ballet. And so there was just this like desire to learn that I was just super accustomed to. And so when I would talk to my friends being like, oh, you're going to school. What are you learning? And they would just like roll their eyes and like hate it. And I didn't understand that because I was like, that's what we're here to do is learn. Like, and it's fun. It's like so exciting. So I was very blessed to have that kind of an upbringing.

• 13:06Jay Shetty?

  Your mom's genius.

• 13:07Speaker 01

  And my mom.

• 13:08Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  The longer, the more in my adult life I, I'm getting, I'm just like, my mom was so aware. Like it's, and, and I, I'm like living, we'll, we'll get to that part, but like I'm, I'm living for her now as well. Cause everything that, all of her beliefs, I'm fulfilling. And like, hopefully just like carrying it on, carrying her legacy. But with ballet, it was.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  It was a love at first, you know, because you're a little girl, you're like, I'm gonna dance on the cardboard box. And like, I would like perform little things for my mom.

• 13:38Jay Shetty?

  Is that the ballerina voice?

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know what voice that is. You're gonna hear that voice a lot.

• 13:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I've been hearing it. I love it.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  I don't know where it comes from.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  And so my mom was like, okay, you want to do this? You want to do ballet? So I studied for 15 years. I'm still studying now. So I would say now 24 years now I've been studying. But like, it was, I stopped around 16 because,

• 14:03Speaker 01

  I mean, first of all, just shout out to ballet, because that were, if anyone is who is a dancer is watching this, like you, you guys know the type of work ethic that you're taught. You also know the trauma that you were given. So it's a, it's almost like a wand and then a sword at the same like edges. Because my work ethic is out of this world. All I know is how to put 100% myself in. And that's what ballet taught me. I had this really strict Russian teacher.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  And it was just, I was constantly like, please, I just wanted to please, like, please, please, please. And so I got into this deep people pleasing habit. And that stemmed from my first passion, which was very interesting because it bled into everything else that I fell in love with. And then it almost like, and this is so interesting, and I was just reflecting on this with a friend last week. It reversed all of the work that I'd done in my homeschooling years to create my own identity. And almost because it's like, if you're constantly like, hmm, do you like what I did? I can do it different. Let me know. Like, I can be better for you. You start to lose your identity. And so that happened so doubly to the point in ballet,

• 15:14Speaker 01

  that I still remember the first moment where I was in ballet class. And it was just, I was at a breaking point. Because one, I think around the age of 16, 15, you can kind of tell whether or not you'll be accepted into like a company or something by just the way your body is made. And my hips were never that flexible. And I would always like just hurt myself to try and get myself there. And it just never worked. So one time in class, my teacher was just like, just grabbed my leg and threw it to the back and was like, no, and like yelled at me so hard and my like something in my, he like, she, he like threw, I was on the bar and he just took my leg and threw it to the back and he was like, no, like, no, Alexi, no. And it just broke my heart because I was just like, I can't do this anymore. I love ballet so much, but I can't, I can't, this is like ruining me.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  And so it was very interesting because right at that moment where I was like, I don't think that ballet is for me on the level that I wanted. Modeling, I was scouted like literally like within a year and a half before I quit ballet. And then that was a new path that I was like, I can do this, like I can smile and like, you know, like I can, this is really fun. And I remember I got signed first time.

• 16:23Jay Shetty?

  How old were you when you first got signed?

• 16:25Speaker 01

  Fourteen, fourteen. And it was like fifteen was around the time I quit ballet. Yeah, I was like fifteen. And then my agency was like, so do you want to go live in Tokyo for six months to a year by yourself? I was like, sure. Like my mom was like, well, I raised you. So sure, you know, like if I can't trust you, then I don't trust myself. And just like gives you an idea of how amazing of a mother she was. So it was like, it almost went, I just, to, to bring this all back around, my passions, I grew up so quickly from all of my, it was just like, you're an adult world, you're an adult world, you're living on your own, you're an adult world. So by the time I was sixteen, I was, I already felt like I was an adult, an adult. And it, and it felt amazing. I was like,

• 17:10Speaker 01

  mom, everything's amazing. Like I'm doing, I'm doing all the things that you want. Like here's a new dishwasher. Like I got you, like, whatever. And so I felt on top of the world around sixteen. I was like, finally got my life. Like it just was working out so beautifully. I was working every day.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  And I was like, and not to go through my whole life story, but this is kind of an important story moment.

• 17:32Jay Shetty?

  Wait for it.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  When I think it was Mother's Day 2014, my mom collapsed on the floor. And I was like, very, I didn't, we didn't know what was wrong with her. Me and my sister was like, I don't know what's wrong with her. We got my mom to the hospital and the next day they were like, she's terminal cancer. She's gonna die in like a couple of days. And we were like, what? And like, I think anyone knows, like especially females with their mothers, like she was my first reflection. So like, I, I didn't understand, I mean, you, you don't understand death at the, at that age. You're just like, I'm too close to beginning of life to understand death. And that was crazy. So I think that almost, cause she, she ended up passing away.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Well, she refused all cancer treatment. She's holistic. She was holistic health nutritionist. So she like refused everything. Everyone was like, you're not going through chemo. And she was like, that's gonna kill everything in me. Like, no, which I, I, I love her for that. She was just so powerful and she was so stuck on her beliefs. And I mean, they said she was only gonna live two weeks. She ended up living another like six to eight months. So that's like, I, I was like, I gotta give it to you, mom. Like that, that's amazing. Um, and so I kind of, I got to learn how to live life without her while she was still there almost. Cause she was like in bed. Um, but I didn't, I didn't quite understand how much I would lose myself from losing her.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  And that was like, I think it was like on top of the, the, the people pleasing aspect in each of my, each steps in my career. And then losing that reflection of just everything I wanted to be. I almost had to like start again. It was weird. I, I still remember like being in my, um, car parking lot, just like having this whole breakdown, being like, I have no idea who I am anymore. Like this is crazy.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  And so, yeah, I just like went on a rant tangent, but that was like, I think a defining moment in like, one, who I wanted to be, two, how I wanted to serve, and then three, how like, how could I, how do I break the boxes that people put me in? Because my mom was so good at breaking boxes. She was like, oh, you think college is the only way? Nope. Like, oh, you think like, western medicine is the only way? Nope. Like, and so it was just, that inspired me to like, go down all of the paths that I'm currently now creating. So it was like crazy. Sorry, that was a really long tangent.

• 20:04Jay Shetty?

  No, it wasn't at all. Thank you so much for sharing that. Like, thank you for, thank you for sharing that, honestly.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  What's coming out of my mouth? I don't know.

• 20:11Jay Shetty?

  Because at fourteen, you know, you're obviously not making sense of it in that way. At fourteen, it's, it is the most heartbreaking thing that can happen to anyone at any age.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 20:21Jay Shetty?

  But to have it at such a young age, and defining age, and then losing yourself, where do you think that took you at that time? Today, it's obviously taking you to some beautiful, wonderful things, which we'll get on to, but at that time, you've mentioned the people pleasing mentality a few times. It comes from trying to impress your ballet teacher. Where does that then take you? And how does that affect your modeling? Because that's the next stage, right?

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think with the people pleasing thing, it's almost like turning it around and being like, now, how can I harness this for myself? Right? Because I know how hard I work. Now, can I not work for that? Can I work for me? So like, that was like the switch. And I've always found, and I was literally talking about this last night, but I, I kind of, I believe, and I hope I can state this correctly, but how low you go is how high you'll go. And I keep seeing that in life. Like, if I'm, whenever like I hit like a low, like, just patch, I'm just like, God, you own me. Like, what are you gonna do? And I'm like, make this up. Like, let's go. And then, of course, it like, it'll launch me into a next pad. So at the time, I didn't realize that.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  But I do think like the reason, like going through the passing of my mom and everything was, I literally just looked, it's her wedding ring. But um, the, it was the reason I got launched into such like a fast, like blessed, like completely blessed life was because he was like, okay, just wait, I got, I got you. Like, I got you. And now I can almost like with everything, with everything I've done. And like, especially with We Are Warriors, like that community was the manifestation. Like, that's something my mom would have created, right? Because when I went on, because it was modeling and then social media started coming up. And I just remember photos of me when I was very, very young, fifteen, going viral on the internet. And I didn't understand it.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  And I was working full time as a model. I didn't really understand what was going on.

• 22:14Jay Shetty?

  Tell us about that experience.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was, that was cra- I mean, I was, I was just so happy. I was just so, I was like, I'm working, e-comm, nine hours a day, front side, back. Like, I was just like, I was living a, like, my dream, because I was financially independent. I could help my mom out. Like, everything was going amazing. And then on top of it, I was getting this, like, this, this attention that I never thought I would get. And so there was, it was, I think, two thousand thirteen or fourteen. And then two thousand fifteen hit. And, and that was interesting, because I had to, I, I went through my mom passing, like, publicly. So that was like, I think the first understanding that the second you share your vulnerabilities is almost like it's setting you free. That's why I'm so, I always,

• 22:57Speaker 01

  whenever I go on interviews, I'm just like, can I think new thoughts here? Because I would like that. I love thinking new thoughts. I don't, I don't like repeating, you know? I hate preparation. It like scares me. I'm just like, no, it's gonna ruin whatever's meant to happen.

• 23:08Jay Shetty?

  I so agree. I, I say that all the time. I, and I hope, I hope I help you do that today. But that's the same for me. If I'm ever being interviewed, I'm like, I want to say stuff that I've never said before.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 23:19Jay Shetty?

  That's what excites me. It's like, can this be self-discovered?

• 23:21Speaker 01

  You're in a room with a friend and you're just like, hmm, I just thought of something. What if, like, that's my-

• 23:25Jay Shetty?

  I love that. Yeah. Well, please go there. Go on any tangent you want to go.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Let's see what will come out. But yeah, so it was the modeling and then social media came along. Instagram started blowing up. I started traveling with an ex-boyfriend of mine. We were super, super young. The reason we connected actually was his mom passed away from cancer as well. So we had this really deep connection. I would call it a trauma bond now, but it was very deep. And so we started traveling and picking up this attention. And so one of the things I can now look back at it as an adult and be like, well, I was trying to like, put him in the place of my mom and I was trying to make him take care of me the way my mom did. And so it was just like, it was going, it was not, it was not going to be a stable relationship, right? And so, and then he, we just, we didn't know what love is, right?

• 24:10Speaker 01

  I think around those times until right now, I'm still learning what love is to me personally. And so finding who matches that same understanding of connection. So that was crazy because I was trying to replace my mom with a guy. And then it blowing up in the public eye. And so I just, I remember like, we like posted this video and then the next day it was like all over the news. And I was just like, what is happening? Like, I don't understand. And then people are like, we're calling them influencers. And I was like, what? What does that even mean? I didn't, I didn't understand because I was like, I'm a, like, I've been a model my whole life. And so it just, it blew and I honestly like, I can't, I wish I could tell you more about what happened during those years, but I think

• 24:52Speaker 01

  I've fully like disassociated, like you know how like with, you just like, I've disassociated like between like 2015 to 2017, I was, I don't really remember much, but it was, I just remember how quick everything happened. And it was just like playing this, it was my first time, I don't want to say it was my first time acting, but it was my first time playing a role. And I was like, this is interesting because I feel a lot of pressure to be this perfect thing all the time, when in fact I was actually the complete opposite. And that's why I manifested this, this character I was playing online because I wanted to be her so bad because I was a wreck. And, and I came to a moment

• 25:34Speaker 01

  where like the relationship wasn't going well. The traveling was too much on my body because we were going, we would spend like three days in one place and hop around. It was just like the most insane, filled up a passport in like two years. So it was a lot on my body as well. And I just remember. It was my body that gave out first and I've always, my mom always told me to listen to my body test myself, always say my name over again until I can hear myself again, like all of those things she's taught me, but I forgot all of it. I threw all of her knowledge, all of her wisdom away.

• 26:01Jay Shetty?

  Tell us some of those things. Walk us through some of those that you let go of because I think they'd be really powerful for people listening.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay. So, one of the things that she always, whenever I would hang out with a friend, I would come home and she'd be like, "Are you there?" I was like, "What do you mean?" And she was like, "You sound like Sophia. Are you on Sophia's identity route?" And I'll say, "Say your name." And so I would say Alexis. And she's like, "Say your full name." So I'd say my full name. And I'd keep saying it until I'd hear my voice drop, like back into my identity. And then she'd body test me and she'd be like, she'd say, "I am Alexis." And she'd push me down and my, um, it just kept getting stronger. I do this with supplements as well. When I'm holding a supplement, I'll hold it down and press it down to see if my body like likes it or whatever it is.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  She would, she was affirm, I, she would play the secret in the minivan whenever we'd like go on our errands and I'm just like, "What is this? I don't understand." And she'd be like, "We have magic, honey." And I was like, "What?" So I was like, "I want to manifest something." And you know, at the time, you know, I'm like 12 being like, "I want to manifest a red ball." And so I like spent three weeks trying to manifest this red ball. This is still like my favorite manifestation story ever, but I still think it's like my best accomplishment in manifestation because it was so like specific. I knew exactly what it felt. I knew what it looked like. I didn't know where it was going to be, but I just knew I was going to find it. And

• 27:23Speaker 01

  three, four weeks later, I found it at the park and I was just like, "Mom!" I like freaked out. I was like, "Mom, this is the ball." She was like, "What ball?" I was like, "The ball. I thought in my head when you said that we have magic powers." Um, so that was like, that was weird. Um, so yeah, it was like, she was always just planting these like seeds of, she would never tell me what it was. She would just have me question whether or not that felt good to me, like the, the truth itself. She was like, "How do you feel about us having, you know, powers beyond just our hands?" And I was like, "That sounds amazing." And she was like, "All right. Well then, that could be a possibility. Like, why don't you try, like, why don't we, we practice this together?" So it was almost like, I was like, um,

• 28:05Speaker 01

  We were like partners. She was like my friend. I would say more so than a mother, which I wanted to replicate within all of my relationships, all of my friendships. Like that was like, she was so, just so powerful in that way.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  But yeah, no.

• 28:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Sorry. You were telling us.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  I don't know what I was saying.

• 28:26Jay Shetty?

  You said that at that time, you let go of all of these things that your mom had taught you.

• 28:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:30Jay Shetty?

  That's, that's why I wanted to say.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  So yeah, so just like, let it go. I didn't, didn't believe in magic anymore. I didn't like, it was, um, I like saying magic better than law of attraction because I feel like that's been like overused. But I'm like, magic.

• 28:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I like magic.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, magic is way more fun. Um, so I got to the point where my body failed on me. And so I got super sick. I remember I was bettering him for like three weeks. And I had an amazing support system and obviously we all know how special like our support system is. And I kind of was, I didn't see them at the time because I was just in this relationship. I was traveling, but they were always on the sidelines, like my god sister and my sisters and like my godmothers. I have so many godmothers. It's like actually crazy and I'm so blessed. It's just like, are you my mommy? Like literally like it's, I'm just like, I love, shout out guys. You know who you are. But they slowly, the second they saw that my ears, because my mom would always say, she was like, um, if someone's not ready to hear you, don't bother trying to speak to them.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  And so they finally kind of came around and were like, are you ready to listen? I was like, I'm ready. Because I was like in bed. And, um, that's when I started to really like, I went through like deep, we ended the relationship. And then I went through this crazy, I would say healing journey. It was almost like, um,

• 29:50Speaker 01

  it, how would, how would I explain it? Like I took myself through my own, like.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Retreat, I would say, like I did, like I had things I would do every morning, like I would journal, like take out the trash, just journal every morning, like get out all of my thoughts, see what my patterns were that created my identity and see then what patterns I wanted to hold on to or let go of. And so that was a lot. And then at the same time, I was like, I want to go deep into this modeling thing. Like I want to do, I want to do this. I want to finally do what I've always wanted to do. I felt like I got sidetracked with so much traveling and it was exhausting me and I felt like I was living in someone else's dream. Like I wanted to do this. And so I went deep into modeling and I was like, super excited. I did Sports Illustrated and like all these amazing things. But there was, but my mental health was getting worse. And I was like, what is happening? I don't under, like Alexis, I almost felt

• 30:41Speaker 01

  like embarrassed. I was like, Alexis, everything is happening. Why are you a wreck? Like I was trying to hide it constantly with even my closest friends. Cause I was like, this doesn't make sense. And this is like actually ridiculous and I'm being dramatic. So we need to stop. To the point where my god sister, Allie,

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Allie, Allie, she was like, I think you, she was like, you need to come to Hawaii. You need to come to Hawaii and you need to get out of Hollywood. You just need to like, get out of this thing that's so attracted to the essence of you that is not all of you. Like I want you to fall in love with all of you. And so I went to Hawaii and actually lived there for nine months. And that was when I really went like, it was so hard. Like self healing is not fun. No. It is not. No, everyone, everyone's like the five minute journal. Like, how do you feel today? Great. Like, no, like, I'm just like, wow, I ended up

• 31:43Speaker 01

  falling in love with poetry because I would just like get so deep into, one, the pain that I would almost find, I would get a high, this is weird. I'm sure artists and poets know this, but like you get like a high off of like

• 31:56Speaker 01

  seeing some, a pain in you that can be. Told in a way that everyone can, and you're just like, what?

• 32:03Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  What? Like, and so I, I just like wrote and I was like in the jungle. I would just spend all day meditating. Like we, my sister would make me like go to a tree and scream at a tree and like just we like just going through the whole thing to almost like she, she would, she used the, um, she said, she said to me one time, she was like, it's like an onion. She was like, we just have to take off all the layers that were put on to you, like from literally the moment you got here. She's like, I'm not just talking about like what you think is your trauma. She's like, I'm talking about everything because no matter what, it's like, we get here in life and we're just like perfect. We're pure, just experience. We're just here for the moment, every, and then slowly, but surely we start

• 32:46Speaker 01

  getting like, well, this is how we should feel about this. This is how we should feel about this. This is what happens when we do this. This is our idea of love. And like, it just goes, goes, goes, goes. So we went so deep into the healing to where I almost felt like a clean slate again. And the second that I felt that Dancing With The Stars called me and they were like, you should, you should come back to LA. And I was like, what?

• 33:07Jay Shetty?

  It always happens like that. As soon as you're doing your deepest healing, you get this like huge opportunity.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  Huge opportunity. Exactly. And I was like, ah, I don't know if I want to do that. And I was very uncertain because I'm, I'm, I'm always very wary when it comes to reality TV. Um, because you know, they, they can just like change things and say things differently, like so, so intensely to the point where I'm just like, that wasn't even me. Um, but I remember, I remember one of the books I read, Simon Sinek, he was talking about the why. And I was like, well, if I can just have a why with everything I do, then I don't have to be worried about the outcome because I had my intention. Um, and I remembered it being one of my, my mom's favorite show on the planet. And I was like,

• 33:52Speaker 01

  and so I went back to LA and did the show and that was like crazy. I got to dedicate a dance to her, which was insane. And like, I was just there for the experience. I honestly, to be honest, I, I actually didn't want to win. I mean, you get wrapped up in the competition, but I was like, I don't want to win. I just like,

• 34:06Jay Shetty?

  But I love that you did it because it was for your mom, like your mom loved it. Yeah.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  It was so fun. Got to dance for her and it was just like, that was a crazy experience. So it's almost like, and this is what I kept seeing and around this time. I was questioning, what do I want to be for the world? This was around the time where I was like peeking my head out, being like, I don't have to,

• 34:29Speaker 01

  can I offer more to this world than just the way I look? Cause they keep telling me that's all I have, but like, maybe I have more.

• 34:37Jay Shetty?

  Did you really feel that, that people would just, you felt that people's response was that that's all you have? Was that very like, was that like a visceral feeling?

• 34:45Speaker 01

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• 34:48Jay Shetty?

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• 37:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, it was, it was really helpful when I started to self-reflect because then I could just see the pain that people were inflicting on to me. And I was like, it's almost like if you're pretty, you can't be smart, you can't have, because it's, it's too much. And then you're too much of a threat. And then it's like, that scares. And I was just like, it made me sad. So at first, it hurt me because I was like, they're right. Like, I would believe them, I'd be like, they're right. Like, I should just, you know, stay in my lane. And then after a while, I was just like, no, the only way, and this is what I've been coming to learn with the community, is like, the only way I can authentically help you is to be. That is, that is, I can't preach to you, I can't teach you, I have to be it. And if I want everyone living and knowing that they're multi-dimensional beings

• 38:18Speaker 01

  and knowing that they can do so much at the same time that I have to honor and see that in me, and that's terrifying because then that means I actually have to like, stop leaning. Because they were right, I was leaning on this thing. Of like what society was telling me that I was. And so I almost had to like, take off my like training wheels and just be like, you're on a bike now. You're going downhill. We have brakes, you've never used them yet, but like this is what we're doing. And that's when I started to figure out like, no, I don't want to conquer the world. I want to like, help it. And then how, how can I serve? Because I've, whenever I think of my idols and just people who I look up to. You know, when I was younger, it was like the Victoria's Secret angels. And now for me, it's like,

• 39:01Speaker 01

  my godmothers, like, oh, my God, you guys are in like, actual warriors, like true warriors. And so.

• 39:07Jay Shetty?

  Why, why do you think that changes? And, and obviously Victoria's Secrets themselves have gone through a massive evolution.

• 39:12Speaker 01

  Massive evolution, yeah.

• 39:14Jay Shetty?

  But why, why do you think that changes as you grow older? Because I think that's something that a lot of

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:20Jay Shetty?

  young adults, teenagers, and then when you become an adult, you, you start looking at your family differently, your parents differently, their sacrifice.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, because you start to, I feel like you start to just like actually see them, like you almost come up to like the, oh, like you're not just like looking up.

• 39:36Jay Shetty?

  That's a good explanation.

• 39:37Speaker 01

  One of my things my mom implemented in me was like, you're not, um, she was like, I would prefer it if you call your friends' parents' names by their first names, just like do it and see how they feel. I was like, what? So I can call him Mark? I don't have to call him Mr., you know, whatever. And she's like, he's like, no, like, we're human, like, let's, let's, I want you to be on everyone's terms and I want you to see how that feels.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, for looking up to Victoria's Secret models, I still think like, what they created back in the day was beautiful and it was, it was art, you know, it was just like something to celebrate. And it was a type of woman that we could celebrate. We can celebrate all types of women's, but

• 40:17Speaker 01

  I think it was more so their energy of like, I own this space that I'm living in. And it was, it was new to me because I was growing up in a living situation where my mother was very much so like, let me just, she's like, it's like, we're the water and she's the tub. And she's like, let me just like formed however you guys need. Um, and so it was very much a people pleasing complex of just like, I'm going to be everyone's everything and the perfect everything for them, which ultimately is the reason why like, I think her health declined because you can't sustain that. It's unsustainable.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  And then there was a lot of things that I didn't see within her. So I think. For me, heroes are the people that have are continually admitting why they're not almost, if that makes sense, like it's just like, oh, no, I but not like still being like humble and stuff, but just continuously knowing that there's always something to learn. There's always something you don't know. Like my mom always said, stay teachable, stay teach, always stay you were you never know like the person who is like ahead of everyone else is the one that knows that he knows nothing like is that kind of the vibe. And so that's what I grew up in. And so that kind of energy I started to be attracted to more than just like I own this space.

• 41:34Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  It was more so like these, these, these people who would sit in silence and like, that's when I really started getting into like podcasts and reading and I just went deep into that space. Because the stories, I mean, I think at heart, I've always been a storyteller, like my whole life has just been a series of stories that I can.

• 41:54Jay Shetty?

  Your mother sounds like an amazing storyteller.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  She's yeah, absolutely. And so listening to people's experiences was the best way that I learned. And then I started to look up to those people. So it just it changed from like, this is the the image that I want to perceive to like, these stories inspire me. And like, that's why this person inspires me. So it changes over time, it evolves. And like, thank God it does. Because like, to be honest, it's exhausting, only only thinking you're known as your looks like that is like actually the most soul exhausting thing because you constantly are in this state of fight or flight. And it is like, I've been starting to say this affirmation, I think I started about a month ago, but I always say like, my looks are the least interesting thing about me. Like, I always I can't say that all the time. Just like, I don't this is like, not what I'm focusing on right now.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  It's not what I don't care. Like, it's a tool, but I don't that's not what I will rely on. That's not what I want females to rely on. That's something I want them to celebrate in all image, all size, anything celebrate it. But it shouldn't be like something to lean on like that's the unhealthiness. And so when I created We're Worries, I can just like briefly touch upon this. When I created, yeah, I was, I think around 2018, I still have it in my notes. It was really weird. I was like scrolling through my notes one day, and I went all the way to like 2017. And it literally said in a sentence, I want to create a community that I can talk to and help evolve like once a week. Or and

• 43:19Speaker 01

  then also like in all of my like, like intentions of my notes, it was like, I want to help evolve human consciousness. That was like one of them. And it was just like, Whoa, like, I had no idea what I was saying. Like, notes are powerful, you guys. Notes?

• 43:34Jay Shetty?

  Apple Notes has all the best ideas in the world of anyone in their life.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  I know, you never look back. You're just like, this is gold, and you never look back. But like, when you do, like, you guys, after this, go through your notes. Like, go through your notes. Like, go through your notes.

• 43:45Jay Shetty?

  I agree.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  They're crazy, because you'll see, one, like, things that you manifest that you didn't even realize, and then, two, just parts of yourself that you're like, I'm pretty cool. Like, I don't know, I said that, you know?

• 43:56Speaker 01

  So that was like, the first, I think, manifestation of the company. And growing up, like, in the fashion industry, I felt very, um, like, everyone was like, you could create this brand, or you could create this clothing. And then, but like, my, my love for the environment, I was like, we don't need another bikini. Like, I just, I, this does not feel in alignment. Like, this is not, so how can I create something that is meaningful, that does have a promise, but the, but the company itself is the promise? Like, it's not like a brand having a promise. And so, I knew from being homeschooled that the education system is,

• 44:34Speaker 01

  you know, I would love to help reconstruct that or take that down completely, but, um, just saying.

• 44:40Jay Shetty?

  We'll, we'll work on it. We'll work on it together.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  We need to work on it because, um, it's, it's so, it's so outdated, and not the tools that you will need. And it breaks my heart seeing, I think I was, yeah, nineteen, twenty, I was seeing all my friends come, come out of college or drop out of college, being like, well, that was a waste of time. And I'm like, that's heartbreaking to me. That is absolutely heartbreaking to me. And like, how can we fix this?

• 45:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it's like eighteen years of your life.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  And your prime life. I was like, you can learn at any point in your life, but you're only gonna be eighteen once. And so, it's like, it's like, experience, I would say, experience more than be in a classroom, but, and it breaks my heart. And so, I knew that I wanted to help on that level. I just didn't know what, I didn't know how. After, like, telling my story on Dancing with the Stars, I was like, storytelling. This is like, this is so much, this is so much more me than anything I've experienced before. And then, what is, what is versions of storytelling? And I was like, oh, acting. And the reason I never fell into acting is because I'm born and raised in LA. And so, just like, being here, I'm just like, well, do I want to be like everyone else? You know, like, it just, it was, everyone else was doing it. And so, I almost, I wanted to go against the grain, like, as if mauling was a going against the grain.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  But like, in my head, it was.

• 45:50Jay Shetty?

  You were the rebel.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was the rebel. Um, but I didn't, I didn't realize how much I loved storytelling and I almost and acting is very interesting. It's like used, it's a tool. It's used to either get closer to yourself or farther away from yourself. And I love the idea of finding myself in characters. Cause like, we really are, we're a blank slate and then we build our identities and we're like, this is me. And so it's like the way Jim Carrey perceives it, I truly do perceive it as well. I'm just like, I'm so excited to like, find new parts of myself in this character. And so I fall in love with it really quickly. And so that's when I was like, oh my God, I can't, why didn't I think of, and so I, I went on to acting and I was so excited and everything was going so well. Um, booked my first film and every, and then everyone was like, hey, um,

• 46:34Speaker 01

  so there's this, uh, thing that's, people are calling it COVID. I was like, what is happening? And I was on set for my film and everything got shut down. Like I was in Oklahoma City and they were like, we have to shut down everything. I went to New York just to like, go there for a second. It was a ghost town. It was, I was like, I've never seen this and I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about. So we don't have to go deep into it, but it was crazy and I was tripped out and I was mortified and I'm sure a lot, not more, I was, I was so, yeah, mortified. I was so sad.

• 47:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 47:07Speaker 01

  Because I'm sure a lot of people felt this, like, things were moving and like, we were, it was, things were moving and girls my age, you know, 21, 22, 23, we're like at our stage where we're like young adults and like,

• 47:20Jay Shetty?

  People were graduating.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, like things are moving and like, we're starting to really understand our career and that's truly what I felt. And then everything just stopped and I was so sad. And then at the time I was also going through a breakup. So it was just like this horrible, like, I have nothing to distract myself from the pain of this lesson. And then also you have to let go of something that you now have fallen in love with. So it was like two things I fell in love with that I had to let go of. And I was like,

• 47:48Jay Shetty?

  Never easy.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  God, you owe me.

• 47:50Jay Shetty?

  Global pandemic around that.

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then it was like, I was texting my, like, are you guys okay? Like, what's going on? So that was really crazy. And so my god sister, once again, was like, hey, you should come to Hawaii. Like, I'm here.

• 48:03Jay Shetty?

  Hawaii is your place.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  It's me and Hawaii have such an interesting relationship because she's like, you ready to come home? I'm like, no, I don't know. I want to be here in Hollywood. And she's like, you need to remember. I'm like, no, I don't know. And so it was like that again. And so I felt that happening again. And I was like, no, I just went through this in 2000. I don't want to do like a rebirth. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to go through any pain, even though I was already in pain. And clearly, I needed to go and fix some things and within myself.

• 48:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, you got to say, yeah.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. And yes, I went back to Hawaii. And it was actually, it was, it was amazing. But in the beginning, it was very hard because I basically had no idea what I was doing. No one did. I, I felt horrible because I was miserable and yet I was in a beautiful place. So I, and then that was like, there was this guilt as well of not being able to enjoy it. And I didn't feel right complaining about any of it. But I was just in a lot of pain. And that's when I started to go back to what if I'm feeling this way, like, who else is feeling this way? And who else has been feeling this way for a very long time? And so we are warriors just kind of started. It just, it really, it's interesting.

• 49:19Speaker 01

  It started as a workout program. I was just like, I'm just going to create a workout program. But with this workout program, I'm going to be doing live calls every week with the girls to like, like, talk to them and keep updated with them. And I'm, it just, the first live call, it was very much about the workout and stuff. And then the second live call, we just started, started kind of talking about like a lot of beliefs and experiences and, and it, and I saw the opportunity that I had. I mean, I had hundreds of girls on this live call. And I was like, This is the kind of change and I think and I've said this before and I'll I'll say it again because I believe it so much. We think impact is like so much about numbers and views and and if we don't have a million views on this video, it wasn't a success or whatever it was. But in

• 50:04Speaker 01

  retrospect, that kind of impact does not work at the same of having thirty girls on a live call and I'm talking to them directly about their trauma and their experience. Like that, I know for a fact and like not to get on my head and myself, but like it's just so powerful and profound.

• 50:20Jay Shetty?

  It's deep.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  It's real.

• 50:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it's depth.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's real and like

• 50:24Jay Shetty?

  Substance.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  I know that my conversations with that girl is going to help them be a better friend, a better mother, a better, like everything, because I'm helping change their fundamental beliefs and helping them work through their trauma. And so I didn't know that I could even do that. But because I went through my mom, because I went through all these things, I can look at pain as pain and be like, now, how do we want to approach this? What's the story you're telling with the pain? And then what is the actual pain? And so like separating the two and then figuring out how we heal both of them. It's very, it's very interesting. And so I felt like there was something there. And so I just slowly started to grow it.

• 51:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. What I love about that, though, is that I I think what you just showed there is sometimes you just have to start.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:10Jay Shetty?

  Like you don't, you don't know exactly what it's gonna be. But if you really care about it and you're present, it's going to teach you how it needs to evolve.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 51:18Jay Shetty?

  And now, you know, not to talk about numbers, but but to show how much it's grown. It's like you've got over three thousand people in over seventy countries. And it's amazing. Congratulations. Like when when you first told me about that, and I remember seeing the articles in Forbes and just seeing the coverage. And I was just thinking, this is amazing. Like, this is so special. And today, when I'm here, listening to your background and your mother's coaching of you and schooling of you, and and I could see just how present she is and her wisdom is in your life. I'm so excited for you to be sharing her through this as well. And that's what you said, that this is what she would have done. Tell us about what what what you're doing and you're like, oh, this is what my mom would have done. Like, tell us a bit about that.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  She has taught me that it's not about Trying to help a thousand people. It's like it really, and this is so cheesy, but like I keep saying to the girls as well in the live calls. I'm like, you guys, if you can just make someone smile in an elevator, life will be a lot better. Like we're at the point where it's just like, let's just enjoy this experience. Like I know that there's a lot going on and I understand that and we need to help where we can. But we're all suffering and so we should look at that, like suffering is like what we connect on. And so then how can we break through like the, the, the veil? Like if I can just like crack a joke and make someone laugh, like almost like break the character of like, I'm just the guy delivering food. Like that's so healing and it's like having it on.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  It's like you're fueling people up. So it's almost like you can be chargers for these people, like you can. And so I am being chargers to the girls so that they can go out and then be chargers for everyone else. And so that's one of the things my mom implemented and she was the best listener on the planet.

• 52:59Jay Shetty?

  Tell us about the community more, like tell me a bit about like, you know, what, what are the ways in which we are warriors is helping the community? What kind of sessions do you have online? What are the kind of themes and topics? What are the format and structure? Because I'd love for our listeners to get involved and I'd love for them to have an opportunity to hear about it from you.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. So we are warriors. It's like a educational slash personal wellness community. So I think communities are, are the future of social media, or at least I hope so, because then it's like a group of people having a common goal that they can accomplish together. And I, I think like communities with goals is like a very powerful thing and that's what I've been seeing. And even being homeschooled, I was in a community of homeschooling, homeschoolers. So it was just like very powerful. So we are warriors. It's a set of different challenges each month. I like the idea of challenges because it gives us a finish goal, like a finish, finish line and it's exciting. And so for instance, like last month, and we, we tackled different subjects as well. That was one of the things, because when I think personal wellness, I think there's like a 365 degree approach.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  And I do think fitness is a huge thing for girls, just having the motivation, like. Fitness is like, keeping up with my routine and my body has been the reason I am who I am today. And I understand that, but we like, we think of it as vapid. We don't think of it, but like, it actually creates, it, it sets up the day for me. And so, creating a community where the girls could do that together was very special. So, but then I wanted to like, expand on that. So like, in April, we had Nicole Lappin for the finance challenge to talk about like, taxes and stuff. So I wanted, I just wanted to take girls through courses that I know will help them, that are actually gonna help them.

• 54:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  And it's almost like, filling the gaps of the education system. Like, whether it is talking about, like, we'll have a whole month on mental health. We have, um, right now, we're in beauty month right now, where I have like, one of the top skincare women in the world. And she's like, here, having live calls with these girls, talking to them and coaching through them. And then for me, I can tackle more of like, the spiritual aspect of like, well, why is this manifesting on your cheek? Let's look at that. And like, having those deeper conversations where we can really tackle every essence. Cause I realized it was like, it doesn't matter if you work out every day, cause if you hate yourself, it, it's just, it's almost like there's a huge wall in between you and your goal. And so, it has to be both. There, it has, you have to have the manifestation with the physical action.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  Um, and so I'm just, right now, I'm just testing that with different subjects. Um, we, I wanna have an environmental month where we have like, different people come on to talk about things that are going on in the planet. Um, not overwhelming, cause, not something too overwhelming, cause, what happened to me, I went deep into the plastic pandemic and I almost got paralyzed, like.

• 55:44Jay Shetty?

  Tell us, tell us about that. Like, how, how can you get so involved in something that actually paralyzes you?

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Because it's just that bad. Like, if you, I read, I think, over 10 books in the course of a couple of months, about plastic and kind of like, what's happening and how we're basically finding it in pregnant lady and their placentas now, because of the microplastics and we eat a credit card a week and like, it's. It's it's so scary that it almost it just like it I didn't know I couldn't even be me. I couldn't even be happy because all I saw was that. I was like, okay, well, maybe that's not the approach because what happens is like you paralyze and then you just want to forget about it. And so I want I want to like slowly like ease them in, not so much about the facts because the facts are really hard to take in. Yes, we'll talk about facts, but it's more of like, what can you, what are the little things that we can do?

• 56:33Speaker 01

  What what brand can we bring along that backs this that can partner it and then we can all just kind of get better together? Like, is the vibe for me is like, let's just get better little by little together. Like, it has to be together, though, because what I've seen with the girls is like, and what's cool about the community is like, they host their own live calls, too. Like, I'm not like, if a girl, for instance, we have one girl who's going to law school and she's like, anybody who like, wants to learn about like law and or has conversations and so they'll have law, they'll have conversations. So it's almost like, um, I didn't want the community to feel like they're looking at experts. Yes. The goal is that they find their inner expert and then they can kind of like shine in their own live call.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  And that that's when I've seen the most transformation because they can actually put it to practice. Absolutely. Which like I don't, I don't see school does for many people. So that's the transformation that we've been seeing is just, one, the connection that these girls have is actually crazy. I'm so honored to be a part of it and like facilitate the space for them to be all best friends. And two, like, the goal is to like create physical events and like really, I, I really think that entertainment and education should go hand in hand like it. I I don't under, I'm like, why do we have like billions of billions of dollars going into entertainment? And yet we can't add like 20% of that into like, just put education within the entertainment. Because it should be fun, it should be exciting, like it's, like I said in the beginning, like,

• 58:04Speaker 01

  it's what we're here to do is learn and like create, learn, create, learn, create, it's just like this circle. And so it's like, I don't know, finding how to reef, reignite their passions is

• 58:16Speaker 01

  for themselves, like fall in love with themselves and then reignite the passion is really, really powerful to me. And then by helping these girls, like, I know that. When they're, they become moms, they're, they're gonna understand not to give away their identity. Cause one of the things that I see in moms, like so much of the time is they just like, they just become mom. And I, and I'm like, no, you're still this girl before you were a mom and you're still, and I, I, I think one of the things that I wish, that I wish, or I wish for all of this to help is to make sure that these girls continue on with who they are. And then it's like who they are, and then they're all of the subcategories, all of the characters that they play go below that.

• 59:00Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:00Speaker 01

  Um, cause I've seen it too much in marriages, like the, the, the female just loses her identity and then becomes resentful.

• 59:06Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  It's what happened in my family. I've seen it way too many times with the people around me. I'm just like, how can, how can we heal this? And this is like actually an ongoing conversation in my head. So it's just like.

• 59:17Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, no, I'm really glad you brought that up. I've, I'm, I'm working on my second book right now and I talk a lot about how, you know, in a partnership, in any relationship, the goal is to always help each other find each other's purpose.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 59:30Jay Shetty?

  Because if you're not doing that, like when I think about me and my wife, when I met my wife, I was quite clear about what I wanted to do. And she had loads of talents and skills, but didn't quite know what she was going to do with them. And over the last five years of us being married, she's really come into her own and she's really growing and flourishing and thriving. And it's been beautiful to watch. But I fully agree with you that it's, you can't think that, oh no, but your purpose is just to do this, or your purpose is just to look out, look after the home, or your purpose, even as a, whoever the role is, doesn't matter what gender you are, but the idea of, oh, your purpose is just to make money for the house. Like, that's not a purpose. Like, we all have so much more to do. So I love that you brought that up.

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  It's, it's.

• 1:00:13Jay Shetty?

  Because you get lost in your role.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, you, you, you get lost in your roles. That's like a real thing. And that's what I'm learning from acting as well. I was like, don't get lost in your roles. Like, don't do that. Like.

• 1:00:22Jay Shetty?

  I've, I've heard people do method acting that have actually lost relationships in the real world because of that.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:29Jay Shetty?

  And so when I hear that, I'm like, wow.

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  Hmm, exactly. Well, it's, it's a great example of what we do in real life as well.

• 1:00:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  Um, because I do think like, at some point with like a long-term relationship or friendship, whatever it is, it's like, you choose to have them come with you.

• 1:00:47Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  And if you're not choosing that, then. The relationship didn't work, not because it was like you didn't bring them along or they didn't, or you didn't see where they were going and wanted to come with them. It is, as much as like we love the butterflies and we love all that, this is a team partnership.

• 1:01:01Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 1:01:02Speaker 01

  Like if you go, we go.

• 1:01:04Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:01:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  We go.

• 1:01:06Jay Shetty?

  And you can't be someone's purpose.

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:01:09Jay Shetty?

  Like, don't try and make it like, no, I am your purpose. Like, what I do is your purpose and my purpose is the same as yours.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  It doesn't work.

• 1:01:16Jay Shetty?

  It doesn't work like that. Like, you can't project your purpose onto another person and expect them to just want to live for that, right?

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Exactly, exactly. And this is all of these things I've been learning recently, like in the last couple of years, especially with like going through like so many public relationships and having that be,

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  oh god, public relationships are terrifying. Oh my god. After, I was like, I'm good. After my last public relationship, I was like, I'm good, I'm so good. I'm gonna just be me in my own little world. No one gets no. Because not only are you creating roles in the relationship, but now you have the public creating characters of the people that you are. So it's like, you're fighting like, you're, it's like you're having conversations with like four different versions of the person you're dating and you're like, oh my god, like.

• 1:02:11Jay Shetty?

  And half of them aren't even real.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  I know. I was like, it's like a foggy mirror. You're just like, hello? So that's been really interesting. And then I always feel that relationships are the best reflection as to where you are, right? Because they're just like, I'm just your walking reflection right now. That's why we're in this together, right? So I always get excited when I, because I'm starting to just meet so many amazing people. And I think that's like, what I've been learning as well is just like, there's no, there's no villain anymore. It's like, we can stay together or we can leave in good faith and good heart. And like, it's just, it's not, you know, in high school, you're just like, they broke my heart. What? Um, now it's just like, oh, good.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  Like you, you did me a service by leaving because you were being disservice to me and you for staying. Cause you didn't feel, so it's like, at the end of the day, it's all perfect. Like what can I, it's all perfect.

• 1:03:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:06Speaker 01

  And then trusting that, like.

• 1:03:07Jay Shetty?

  What helps you trust and accept that when most of our minds hold on to the, but it could have been like this. Or because I feel that's what it is, right? It's always this battle between imagination and reality. And a lot of us prefer our imagination.

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Jay Shetty?

  But then we have, yeah. And then we have to deal with reality and I, oh, I've read something. Actually, I want to read this to you because I think you'll like it. All right, let me find it, let me find it. I have to read it to you because I don't want to mess it up. You know, it's, it's, you know, when you like try and say something and mess it up. So this is by Johann Wolfgang and he said, few people have the imagination for reality.

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  Woo.

• 1:03:45Jay Shetty?

  And I read that and it literally like it really, that's like, there's something, there's, it packs a punch, right? I was like, few people have the imagination for reality. And I was thinking, wow, like I think my imagination is good, but if I had a really good imagination, I'd be able to accept and trust my reality.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Well, you're kind of like, I'm a great storyteller and the universe is like, sit down. Sit down, you can tell it later, once it's over. You can say it's yours, but it was mine. Like, that's like fully like what I experienced all the time. You know, it's like, sit down, like you, you, you write it while I create. Like, you know what I mean? Like you remember it, you tell the story. It's, it's ours, you know, but it's mine, but it's ours.

• 1:04:26Jay Shetty?

  You write, I'll edit.

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so like, that's kind of the relationship that I always see. And per your question earlier, imagination and reality, it's, I always, at this point with heartbreaks, there, I don't see it as heartbreak anymore. I see it as growing pains. And that's sometimes even worse because you're just like, I was, I was good. I was good with just this. Like I didn't, I didn't, I don't wanna grow. Like I'm good. Like I'm tired. I just wanna like watch Netflix and chill. I don't wanna evolve anymore. Even though I like just got here in retrospect, but like it's still, and so if I look at it as growing pains.

• 1:05:04Speaker 01

  And then, you know, as, cause we're all artists, we're all artists. And so what I'll do now, and it's actually so intoxicating is I'll create, I'll write poetry, I'll write music based off of the experience. I mean, we know all of the biggest artists in the world are like, let me tell you about my heartbreak. And then they get, they blow up because of that. And I'm just like, that's in all of us. And so every single time that I have a new experience of heartbreak or it's just not working out or whatever it is. I'm like, there is, there is gold in this pain. There's gold in this pain and I cannot wait to get it out. I'm just like, so I get, I get this weird, like I get heartbroken and then I get really excited. So, and it goes back and forth. It's almost,

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  and I always, I always tell people, I'm like, when someone leaves your life, it's okay to feel like you're grieving a death. Because the character that they played in your life is not there anymore. And so you are grieving someone that's no longer there. Like you are, like when I get broken up with someone I truly love and I'm crying and I'm in that space, it is very similar pain to when I lost my mom. And so like I always reach, when anytime like my girlfriend has me, she's like crying, sobbing. I'm just like, this shit is valid. Don't worry. Like feel it, like feel it because you lost a character that you thought was in this season, but it's not. And like you thought he was gonna be your season finale. He's not, but it's all good. There's a season sixty, there's season forty, like, you know, there's so many seasons in your life. So it's just

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  coming back to, oh, so if, if he wasn't meant to be here, then what I attracted was more parts of myself. I became more me because he came into my life and that is the biggest blessing I could have ever asked for. Like, I am a product of everyone that I've dated and I've, and I've found, I've fallen in love with them. And then those parts that I fall in love with, I've like, I like I took them for myself and so I almost I'm getting to the point now where I don't grieve it anymore because I'm like, well, the person that I was in love with, I became. And so that's so interesting how

• 1:07:13Jay Shetty?

  Even if that person wasn't there, the parts that you thought you fell in love with.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  Like how powerful it is. Like, relationships always fascinate me because I've always been a relationship girl and seeing how much people grow after relationships. It's like, I mean, you guys have ever seen like, don't break a girl's heart. You know what I mean? Like, it hap- I just, I just watched my sister do this and I'm just like,

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  she's gonna be so good after this. Like, I'm so excited. Like, I get so excited for her. Cause like, I just like, I love it. Upgrade, like, girls get hotter. Like, it's just like, it's such a vibe. I, I get, I get so excited. Cause we need, it's almost like, um, the fire. It's like, it, it breaks your heart open so you can light fire. And I'm just like, yes, like, let's go. So, it sucks. It always sucks. Um, but once again, like, back to that same belief that I had, like, the more he pulls you back, it's like a slingshot. He's just like, launch you for it. So, I just, at the beginning of 2020, I was just like, oh, this is painful. This is painful. I wonder what's gonna happen. And now, it's like, I can honestly say I've

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  helped more people than I ever would have imagined. And I'm also like, playing with this belief and like, I think all companies should is like, can we just like, stop this idea that like,

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  a company or a brand, living forever is success? Because it's just, it's not. Like, it's not sustainable. Things evolves. And so I always tell myself, I'm like, whether this company stays, whether it does, that's not the point. That was never the point. The point is, is I've helped, I would say over now, like, 10,000 girls, truly, like, actually helped them, like, speaking to them, talking to them one-on-one. And that I will carry with me, they will carry with them. Like, that's good enough. So it's like, it's almost like, this is good enough. It's okay. It doesn't have to last forever. None of these things have to last forever. I feel like, we're so, in, in companies in general, even though this is a community, but like, companies, it's like, we're so thirsty to just be the monopoly. And I'm like, no.

• 1:09:12Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:12Speaker 01

  What, what is this world gonna look like if we're all trying to be monopolies? We can't.

• 1:09:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:16Speaker 01

  Like, are you good? Are you safe? You have a roof overhead? You can host people? Like, you're good. You're good. Like, let's, now, how can we return the faith and, and do more? And it's like, So I, that's kind of where I'm at with We Are Warriors is like, it will continue and it's gonna be amazing. But the impact is already there and I'm so honored to like do have that impact on them, you know? It's just because it's so real.

• 1:09:40Jay Shetty?

  No, I'm so glad that you're owning that and accepting that because I couldn't agree with you more. I think we're fascinated with longevity and lasting till the end. And even in relationships, you stretch it out far longer than it needs to be just because we think end means failure.

• 1:09:56Speaker 01

  Failure, exactly.

• 1:09:57Jay Shetty?

  And you're so spot on that the impact, the end is insignificant, really. It's, it's all about what's happening right now in this place right today.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I forget. I'm like, it's right here fam.

• 1:10:08Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, if you're making an impact, yeah, if you're making an impact on all of these women today and they're impacting each other and you're empowering them to also become their own experts and discover their skills. I mean, that's beautiful. Yeah. And I'm so glad that you made that point because I think our, our obsession with making something last is everything. Yeah, it's unhealthy. It's unhealthy.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  It's unhealthy.

• 1:10:35Jay Shetty?

  And you're only 24.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:37Jay Shetty?

  Right?

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, which is amazing. Like, that's, that's, that's the insane part here. I feel like I'm speaking to the oldest soul in the world and then I have to remind myself. And it's, that's, that's such a wonderful thing because, you know, you're carrying your mother's energy in such a special way. Yeah. No, it comes through. It's like, it's, it's so clear that, that, you know.

• 1:11:00Speaker 01

  And it's cool too, because like for anyone who's lost someone, y'all have a speed dial up there. Like you guys can just like, I literally am like, mom, and she's, she's right there. And so I'm like, you have the strongest connection to the other side or whatever you believe. It's really truly whatever you believe because I'm pretty sure all this is made up. I mean, we're just like, I'm sitting on an idea right now, which trips me out sometimes. I don't know, like it's weird, but it's like, we have such a deep connection to the other side because we have that person on the other side. And so I utilize that as much as I can. And whenever I forget, I just like, I'm like, how can I remember? How can I remember? I think that's where I am right now. I just, I, I will, it's always the environment too. So like,

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  I'll use incense, I'll make lights, candles, and I'll just sit down and I'll remember. Like whether that's just sitting in silence, it's helping me remember, but or just writing until something else comes out, that's what it's or talking to a friend about it, like I I think I'm at, and I think we're all at that point where it's not, it's not so much you're learning something new. It's almost you're just remembering what was already there on top of everything else per what my sister said about the onions and just unraveling it. And so it's constantly coming back to that. But like, I still, you know, I still suffer, like we all suffer, like it's all good, it's all good.

• 1:12:23Jay Shetty?

  How, how have you got through that? You know, you talked about this earlier and I think you've experienced this, like you've, and, and I love what you said because we were, we were connecting on this beforehand. And I, I sometimes feel the same way because I thought I was going to be a monk and that's literally what I built up. So before that I had so many passions, but my parenting was ignore the passion, do the safe thing. And so my passions were music, my passions were spoken word and my passion was philosophy.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  Do you still write spoken word?

• 1:12:54Jay Shetty?

  I do, I do, yeah. It's, it's such a passion for me and I feel like a lot of my videos and a lot of my content is still wordplay and, and has so much, I still use this spoken word in a different way today. And so that's so much a part of my life, but it was like, do the safe thing. And so I was studying business and I thought I'd be an investment banker or consultant or whatever, any of that stuff. And then I became a monk, that became my dream and

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  Mom, dad.

• 1:13:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, literally, like from all of that to that. But even letting go of that, I would say I'm most myself in what I do today. And being a monk was part of that, but it's not all of me. And being in media, which is what I am now is not all of me, it's a part of me. And then being in the world of business was a part of me, it's not all of me. And I think you are so right that we limit ourselves, we feel society limiting us and we feel we have to choose to be one thing. And I think that the fact that you're 24 years old and you've allowed yourself To continue to do this and you still do today. I think that's so wonderful because I think a lot of people stay stuck until again, wanting to make something last.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, wanting to make something last and like every single thing and I will say this with absolute certainty, like every single thing that any of you guys have been doing that you feel like was the thing and then it's not. It is serving.

• 1:14:16Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  What your thing is like ballet. I spent literally 20, almost 20 years, every day, four, five, six hours a day, I would be on point and my feet still hurt, you know? Like it's just like, but because of that, it's translated into storytelling. I know how to use my body. My work ethic is insane. I understand. I know how to take direction. There is, I know how to feel when I move like it is literally serviced me in everything I've done. And so it's just, it's almost just like being okay with letting it go, but then you don't actually let it go. It's always there. That's the thing. It's like, it's always there serving you.

• 1:14:53Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Speaker 01

  And so that's how I feel with pretty much everything I do. My mom said, another thing my mom said is like, she goes, um, just be passionately curious because put so much pressure on us. So my mom would always just be like, just be curious, like just like follow your curiosities. And if, if it doesn't lead you anywhere, just be like, oh, that was interesting. And then go over here. And so that's, that's what I do. And like, given I, I do, I still of course have big dreams, but like, I let my curiosity take me like, and I don't, the, the big dream is not the goal. It's like the little moments that get up to it, right? Right? So like when I'm, when I'm having a director meeting and I'm like talking to them about a role or whatever it is, it's like, my intention in that call is to make the director feel good, not to get the part.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  And so just like having those little indirect of like the curiosity.

• 1:15:41Jay Shetty?

  Wow, that's such a huge thing you just dropped. Yeah, that's a huge thing.

• 1:15:45Speaker 01

  It's who you are. It's who all of us are. It's like, if you can stop going, well, this is my goal to like, my intention, I think intentions are actually the most underrated, most powerful things I've ever, like I still learn about how, we have an intention 24/7 with everything, everything, single thing we do. We just like, sometimes we're aware of it. Sometimes we're not. And so when you can put an attention, an intention on something before you do it, it's, it's crazy how powerful it is. So it's like, I always make sure because at the end of the day, and this is kind of what we're all looking for. I think even more so than the diploma, than the thing and than the degree is someone that we connect to. Someone that we feel close to, someone that we almost feel like we've already met before.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Like that essence comes from the intention of making that person feel connected. Not from, I hope I'm right for this, I'm hoping this. And so like I, whenever I hire for my company, that's my intention. I was like, I don't really, I don't care where you went to college. Yeah, of course, yeah. Why would I care? Like, I care about who you are. Like what, like what's your, like what's your intention? Like, how are you gonna be fun to work with? Like, are we gonna, because ideally, I want you to be in this for the long run. And so do I want to be talking to you for the next five to 10 years? Like, what does that look like? And so having that perspective of when it comes to jobs, when it comes to meetings, anything ever is like, the human connection should go first, no matter what.

• 1:17:12Speaker 01

  No matter how bad you want it, like the human connection is first. That's actually been the best like magic trick my mom taught me. Cause it's like, it always, it always provides what I need and then what the other person needs. So for instance, I was like, very excited for this role that I almost got a couple of weeks ago. I was very excited, I won't say any names. And he was so sweet and we were talking, we were having such a good time. And I really understood the character and it was really great. But then, you know, because I don't, I'm not very experienced in the space. He was like, we're gonna choose someone else. And I was like, that's completely fine. But then I was sitting in meditation and I had this urge to write him an email. And I didn't, I didn't know why, because my goal wasn't necessarily to get the part.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  I just almost felt like the, the connection of me and him wasn't finished. And so I just sent him a thank you. And I was like, thank you so much for speaking, giving me your time, like learning about me. Because who I am matters, because you need to get to know if I fit the character. Like all of these things. And because of that, it almost solidified our relationship and that, but that wasn't my intention. My intention was just like, this isn't over, I don't know why. And I'm just gonna sit down and see. So like, listening to, almost like letting it overpower whether or not the, what happened? It's like, if you don't feel like it's finished, like go in there with the intention that. You want to just solidify the mirror that you guys are reflecting towards each other as opposed to like the opportunity that's kind of on the sidelines.

• 1:18:39Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  So that's been a huge tool, huge. It's like actually like the probably the reason I'm here to be honest. So shout out Tool.

• 1:18:49Jay Shetty?

  Shout out Tool, did you say? I love that. Today I've discovered how funny you are, which is great, which is really awesome, which is really awesome. So I love that. We're gonna have so many memes made out of this interview for you.

• 1:19:03Jay Shetty?

  There's gonna be so many great ones. Alexis, is there something that I haven't asked you about that's like on your mind? You're like, I have to share this. I want to share, I want to say this. Before we go into the final five, but I want to know if there's anything that you're feeling intuitively as you are.

• 1:19:17Speaker 01

  Just thank you so much. Like actually, thank you so much. I'm gonna tear you out just like saying it, but thank you. I feel like, I don't know. It was weird. Like, once I finally solidified this podcast with you, there something like clicked inside of me and I was like, like I am becoming the person I want to be and like I, and so just like, thank you for showing that to me because it really, I, I'm not, yeah, just thank you. I have no, I just like words don't, they're not it right now. So, but thank you. Yeah. So just that's it. That's all I have to say.

• 1:19:50Jay Shetty?

  I love that. I love that. That means the world to me and I'm, and I'm hoping that that synergy and synchronicity continues and you know, this is the beginning of a great friendship. So that's, that's, that's my hope. I, I really believe that. Honestly, the podcast for me has either been a place where I had a lot of relationships offline that people didn't know the types of conversations we were having. And so the podcast was a great way of me sharing, hey, I'm really good friends with the person. This is what we talk about. And I want everyone to hear it. And then it's also been the opposite where it's been like, here's someone I'm really interested to get to know. And I wanted to start a friendship.

• 1:20:29Speaker 01

  And then it's like perfect.

• 1:20:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And so the podcast for me has been so much more than, and it's what you're saying about a community, more than a company or a brand, like the podcast for me is not a. Show like that's that's not the point of it like it's it's a it's a way I can get to know humans that I'm interested in or I find interesting and help people learn about them. So actually, I should be thanking you because, you know, I think sitting down with you today has just completely blown my mind and opened up my mind to just so many possibilities as to how someone who's navigated so many stressful situations. And I think the closer you get to it, the more you realize how hard it is. So when I was a young kid and I grew up in London,

• 1:21:14Jay Shetty?

  I knew no one in the entertainment industry. I was not in LA or Hollywood. Everyone in my area was, you know, not going off to work in anything to do with the world I'm in now. And because of that, you look at people and you go, oh, well, life must be easy for you. You guys have money. You guys have fame. You guys are attractive. You you life. Why are you complaining? Right? And as I've got closer to the industry, closer to the people that I coach, that I work with, clients of mine, I've only just had more compassion for everyone. Both the people that are like me, sitting back there judging and then both the people are in this situation because I just realized we're all just feeling some type of pain. And the more

• 1:21:56Jay Shetty?

  we can rise to that point without judgment, the better it's going to be for us because

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  We can evolve together.

• 1:22:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, if we expect anyone who's successful to be always happy, then what we're saying is when I become successful, I have to always be happy. And that pressure is just

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  Right back on us. It's interesting how that works. And it's almost like, um, yeah, anything that we direct outwards is an exact manifestation of what's going to happen inside of us. And so we have to be so careful with our words. Like, I don't, why do you think they call it spelling? Spells like, I'm like,

• 1:22:29Jay Shetty?

  Wow. That's that's good. I've not had that before. I like that. That's good.

• 1:22:34Speaker 01

  The words are like, I am, oh my God. When I hear girls say like, I am ugly or I am, I'm just like, no, no, like you can, no, I refuse to let you say that about yourself because you would never say that about your daughter. You would never say that about your friend. And so it's, it truly is like having these honest conversations with anyone at any level has been eye opening to me. And that's one of the reasons why I've always loved the podcast so much because I got to actually just see the person and not the characters that I see them play in life. So that's really, it's really inspiring. And then also knowing that pain happens on any level, like pain is pain,

• 1:23:18Speaker 01

  you know, like me losing someone from a breakup is just as painful as me losing my mom to death. And I was like, that was a weird, that was weird. I was like,

• 1:23:27Jay Shetty?

  And you almost feel guilty or like you feel like, can I feel that? Do I allow myself?

• 1:23:31Speaker 01

  So it's like, yeah, validating on any level because that's actually what connects us as well. And I almost feel like until we, we have, the goal right now is to connect at every level of being human. And then from there, I mean, I'm pretty sure like an evolution would happen, which would be really cool. That'd be really cool. I'd be like, whoa. Can you imagine if we had everyone at the same time be like, love?

• 1:23:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Can you imagine?

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  That would be crazy. I've heard, I'm sure you've like heard of those stories where like, they have like monks praying at same, at the, all at the same time, like 3000 monks or whatever. And like the crime rates goes down in the city. I've definitely heard, I've seen studies on that before.

• 1:24:10Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, same.

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  But just those kinds of scenarios would be like, I think that's the, that's what, that's what my work would ideally, my like, heart work, I guess, is what it's there for is to like have just more moments of like just people being in absolute like love. And even when I can facilitate, like we were talking about hosting and how like, it's like, why have the big house if you're not? Putting everyone in it, like hosting it, like, why do I have balcony? I'm not gonna do anything on it. Like, I'm gonna have all my friends, like, there and like, host people and like, why do I have more than one bedroom? So I can let my friends be there and like, just hosting and having that environment where like, we come together and bring like, real connection. It is so, it's, it's helping the planet so much more than we know.

• 1:24:54Jay Shetty?

  I've got two more questions for you before we go into the final five, because I've, I've just, there's so many things I could talk to you about. Uh, the first question I went to ask you was around your passion for acting now.

• 1:25:02Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:25:03Jay Shetty?

  So, you know, what right now is making you so passionately curious about acting? What is it about roles? What is it about your development as an artist that connects you so much to acting?

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  It's, it's almost like proving to myself how many different person or identities I can be. I think it's like, we almost, I, I feel, even though I seem outgoing, I'm actually quite terrified all the time. Um, and I would say I'm like an ambivert, like in, in between. But when it comes to acting, I don't have a choice. Like, I have to show up as this person if I'm nervous. Like, it doesn't matter. And like, once I'm not thinking about lines, once I'm like, in that state where I just like, haven't memorized through the heart and I can just be there.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  It's, it's similar to flow state. I'm sure you've written, I love flow state.

• 1:25:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love flow state.

• 1:25:58Speaker 01

  Flow state is the goal for everything, always. So it puts me in flow state, basically. I don't, there's no time. I don't remember. I'm not thinking about myself. I'm not thinking about my body. I'm not, there's, it's just, I'm just here. And like, similar, similar to the way like, when you surf, like, you're on a wave, it's like, it's those like, 30 seconds of just like, I blacked out. I wasn't even there.

• 1:26:19Jay Shetty?

  No, and you're saying that you can actually surf, so you've actually had that experience. Like, most people use that analogy, but we've never surfed, so, but you actually surf.

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  Anything, yeah, yeah, just like any.

• 1:26:31Jay Shetty?

  But you can actually surf.

• 1:26:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can surf decently. Not good enough to the point where I'm like, That guy in the surf being like, where'd you catch my wave, bro? I'm like, but just those moments, like, I think I'm right now, I'm just searching for those moments in my life. Like, I'm just like, when am I, am I gonna forget time here? Am I gonna forget time here? And so, acting is just one of those things that I've seen is such a powerful. And also, it's, it's best because I can, I get to lose track of time with another person. And I feel like, like, connection is so strong for me. And so, it's like, I remember, oh my God, this was such a cool moment. On my first set, um, it was an older actor, he's been around for a long time. I'm sure you know him, I don't remember his name, but he was very, very kind. And we had a scene together where he was kind of just like, um, like getting in my face about something.

• 1:27:16Speaker 01

  Um, basically saying that I like, wasn't worthy, or, but I don't know. And I was just like, I got this, I got this, I got this scene, don't worry, guys. Um, and he was like getting in my face. And I just remember a moment where like, we like, lost, I just, it was, I just wasn't there. And he wasn't there, and it was just a pure moment, and I wasn't acting, and I was actually feeling everything. And then afterwards, he comes to me and he looked at me at, at Crafty's, the little snack area. He was like, you get it. He was like, you get it, don't you? I was like, yeah. And he was like, keep doing it, kid, like, keep doing it, it's amazing. And he was like, you get it. And he was like, there, he, he almost, it was almost as if he like, said like, you're closer to source in those moments. Like, and so he looked at me like, you get it.

• 1:28:00Speaker 01

  And I just flipped out after, because I was eating banana, being like, I get it, I get it, I get it. And so, after that, I was like, okay, this is like, what I meant to do now, for now, I guess. And like, we'll see where that goes. Um, but yeah, I, I just, once again, like, the intention, the paths change, but the intention stays the same.

• 1:28:23Speaker 01

  So I think that's what keeps me.

• 1:28:24Jay Shetty?

  That, again, love that, I just love that.

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:26Jay Shetty?

  I couldn't agree more.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:28Jay Shetty?

  I think that's been the challenge for so many people. We try and keep our path the same, and then.

• 1:28:33Speaker 01

  But we don't know our intention.

• 1:28:34Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, we don't know our intention, yeah. But, but keeping your intention the same, and the path changing, oh, I can so relate to that.

• 1:28:40Speaker 01

  So back to those notes.

• 1:28:41Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:42Speaker 01

  Like, any intentions that you guys have, like, any of it, just write it down. So at least you just know.

• 1:28:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:48Speaker 01

  You just know, because I forget my intentions all the time.

• 1:28:50Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, you have to repeat them daily. I repeat them daily, in my prayer, in my affirmation, at the beginning and end of the day, I have to.

• 1:28:57Speaker 01

  Exactly, exactly. And then from there, it almost like. I, I, and this is, this may be a weird belief, but I've been seeing this a lot in my life. All the best things in my life I didn't work for.

• 1:29:06Jay Shetty?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:29:07Speaker 01

  And I keep seeing that as a pattern. I'm like, hmm, maybe God, maybe God doesn't want us to struggle. Like the way, like it's, cause everything that I've struggled for wasn't meant for me.

• 1:29:18Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  So that's been really interesting of almost being like, you take the reins. Like you take the reins, I'll create the intention, but you create the story and like, I'll trust the path. And like, whatever that is, like, let's go, like, let's make it fun, right? Cause like, I, I do feel like the more you can give to God to like, if he, if he gives you like a ball, a red ball, for instance, like, like, if you have fun and you're playing with it, he's gonna be like, oh, he's, she's playing with it. I'll give her something else. Like, and it's just like, it's almost like entertain, like, show him or show the universe that like, you're so stoked of what it gave you that it wants to give you more. Like you almost, you know, and like you have, I have a puppy, her name's Angel. And whenever I give her a treat, she's so stoked that I gave her a treat that I'm like, I gotta give you another one.

• 1:30:03Speaker 01

  And so like, I almost feel like that's, and then when I walk my dog and she like, is not leash trained yet. So she'll just be like, like choking herself out, trying to like, go everywhere. And I'm just like, is this what I look like? Is this what I look like? Oh no, I learned so much from dogs. Also, when a dog, my dog is obsessed with a ball, one ball in particular. It's gross. I can't believe she still has it. I'm just like, oh my God. Um, so obsessed with this ball and I'm like, that is amazing. And literally her only goal with this ball is to give it back to me so that I can throw it so she can ta- catch it. So I can give it back to her. Shoot, there's, there's no point to this whatsoever. And so it showed me, I was like, do it just for the act. Like, don't do it for like, the, the idea, the goal or the dream, just, just do it. And so like, whenever I play ball with her, I practice that.

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  I'm like, I'm acting just because it's fun, because I just do it. Or I'm creating this company because it's fun and I just, this is just what I do. Like, I just, it's just fun. And like, because every single time I've gotten caught up in like, the huge image of things, is like, when I've lost sight of my heart's path. And I'm just like, ah.

• 1:31:04Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:05Speaker 01

  So, but the greatness is within that path, like for sure. But it's never like the same path as you would see, because it's literally just you playing with a ball. And you're just like, what's the point, God? And he's like, just wait, like, just keep doing it for fun.

• 1:31:17Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, keep doing it for fun.

• 1:31:19Speaker 01

  Keep doing it for fun. And so I almost, and like now that I'm 24, I'm, I'm in this adult life and I'm just like, do I need to get serious now?

• 1:31:28Jay Shetty?

  Don't, don't do it.

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  I don't want to.

• 1:31:29Jay Shetty?

  It's a trap.

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  It's a trap. And so, but it's so strong. You, I feel it heavy on me now. Like I need a schedule, I need to wake up at this time. And God's like, no, you're not lazy if you sleep in. That's a belief. Let's get rid of that. Like, no, you're not like, did you? No, it's just, literally, I'm now taking off layers that I just got. I'm like, whoa, what is this? What is, and now that I'm coming into my mid twenties, I'm just like,

• 1:31:55Speaker 01

  what, is this not supposed to be fun anymore? Because like, that's what I've heard and that's what I like see a lot of the times. But I just refuse because it's so inspiring to meet. I have a few friends that are like, what's it like in their fifties or sixteens? And they're like, children.

• 1:32:10Jay Shetty?

  Having the best time of their life.

• 1:32:12Speaker 01

  Having the best time of their life. And everything works out for them. Everything works out for them. And I'm just like, that is, if I'm going to tell a story, I'd rather it be like that.

• 1:32:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I've added play back into my life so much. Like play is like one of my number one values.

• 1:32:27Speaker 01

  That's why I got a dog.

• 1:32:27Jay Shetty?

  In life, yeah.

• 1:32:28Speaker 01

  You're going to the park.

• 1:32:29Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 1:32:29Speaker 01

  Not for the dog for you, but you're going to the park for the dog.

• 1:32:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I just want more play in my life. And there was a, there was a beautiful quote by Richard Branson where he said that, you know, you don't stop playing because you get old. You get old because you stop playing. And, and I love that because it's, it's been so big for me. I'm at a place in my life where I'm like, I play is a huge value. And it sounds insane and people don't get it. I just got back from Miami. I was there for two weeks and we were on a really busy schedule. We were working from like eight AM to nine PM every single day. But at nine PM every day, we'd go and play paddle tennis from nine to 11.

• 1:33:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:33:03Jay Shetty?

  And I felt like a kid every night where I was just waiting to be out in the paddle court. And I was just like dying to, have you ever played paddle tennis? Okay, it's amazing. It's, it's, I, I am the biggest advocate of this sport. I've introduced many, but, but play is just such a big value for me now.

• 1:33:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:19Jay Shetty?

  And even when I'm with friends, I'm like, what can we do that's playful?

• 1:33:21Speaker 01

  That's playful.

• 1:33:22Jay Shetty?

  Like we've been, I've been doing crazy things with friends, like archery and like, painting lessons and whatever it is, because I just want to play.

• 1:33:28Speaker 01

  You just want to play and it, it, it's, it's where we create new passions. Play is where we create new passions. So also boredom. I, I always am like boredom is so valuable, especially now with our phones. And like all of this instant gratification, and we've heard a million times and it's all known now. But like, for real though, like I can't even drive without being like, Don't text and drive, but look at all these billboards.

• 1:33:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:51Speaker 01

  You know, it's weird. I'm just like, they're telling and it's just all of this is trying. Everything is trying to get your attention. Everything is trying to get your attention, like to the T. And so I'm like, okay, how do I work against this? And it's only gonna get probably more intense. I would assume so. Um, so that's like, literally, I'll say it again. That's why I got a dog. That's like fully why I got a dog. Cause I was like, I need something that's, I'm gonna get bad news on the phone. I'm like, okay, bye. And then the dog's just like, okay, here. So you know how like in any like Disney, like movie, like Pixar, whatever, there's always a sidekick.

• 1:34:29Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 1:34:30Speaker 01

  Tangled, the chameleon. Like there's a bunny in the Abominable Soul Man.

• 1:34:33Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:33Speaker 01

  There is always like this really funny, comical relief.

• 1:34:36Jay Shetty?

  Olaf in Frozen.

• 1:34:37Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Spirit animal. Um, I was like, I need, I want a sidekick. Like, I want that idiot that's just like running and hitting a wall while I'm trying to like do business. Like I can, we need that.

• 1:34:50Jay Shetty?

  That's so cool.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. So like, movies are so powerful in the way that they like, kind of, they give us characters to like replicate. And so I've almost like, whenever I watch a movie, I'm just like, I like that character. Like that character's really cool. Like, one of the shows that I actually like loved growing up with is Entourage.

• 1:35:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Okay. I've got a funny story to tell you about Entourage. So I was a monk when Entourage was famous. So I never watched it. So I didn't know what it was. So my wife just made me watch Entourage. So we literally just finished it. It's one of the best shows ever. It's amazing. Yeah. I would watch it. I would watch it again. I loved it. I literally just watched it this year.

• 1:35:24Speaker 01

  Exactly. And so it's like, you have like the characters around you that are just like, they're, they're so needed and you don't know why, but they're so needed. Like they're so important to the story. And that's how I look at all of my friends. I'm like, you guys are so like, creating your, your, your, your show. Like he's like, and in a healthy way, of course, because, but it's taught me a lot, like. As much as Hollywood is very toxic and dangerous in ways, but it's also a great way to get to understand how you want your life show to go. Like, it's just like, I can find parts of myself in different, like, have you watched Dave yet?

• 1:36:02Jay Shetty?

  No. Oh, no, no, I have watched, I watched the first season, not the second.

• 1:36:05Speaker 01

  Gator? I need a Gator in my life. He's so funny. I was just like, he's, he's just like, he's there, always making jokes, always there, always holding it together, always holding strong. Like, you need that part, and sometimes it's you that's that person. But I always, that really helps me just like, understand the thing I'm doing. So, but the sidekick thing is like, actually, you guys, like, it really helps. Like, I can't tell you how many times where I'm like, so upset, and then Angel like, rolls over, it falls off the bed, like, just the funniest, it's just amazing.

• 1:36:35Jay Shetty?

  I love it. All right, Alexis, I'm gonna take you through our final five.

• 1:36:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:36:39Jay Shetty?

  These are the fast fives. You have to answer them in one word to one sentence maximum. That's all you can say.

• 1:36:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:36:44Jay Shetty?

  So you can do, use one.

• 1:36:46Speaker 01

  Actually, I didn't even read these.

• 1:36:46Jay Shetty?

  You can, no, no, no, no, you didn't read them. Yeah, no, no, no, you shouldn't, you shouldn't read them.

• 1:36:50Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:36:52Jay Shetty?

  Okay, so the first, and I changed them on the day anyway. So it doesn't matter if you do read them, because I just ask what I want to ask.

• 1:36:58Speaker 01

  Okay, let's go.

• 1:36:59Jay Shetty?

  Okay, so question number one is, what is the best advice you've ever received?

• 1:37:07Speaker 01

  I would, I would just have to bring it back to what my mom said about being curious instead of passionate. It takes the edge off of so many.

• 1:37:14Jay Shetty?

  Great.

• 1:37:16Speaker 01

  So much pressure.

• 1:37:17Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:17Speaker 01

  It's just like, just be curious and stay teachable. Be curious and stay teachable.

• 1:37:22Jay Shetty?

  Awesome. Great answer. What's the worst advice you've ever received?

• 1:37:27Speaker 01

  Like, you can only, I would say, like, you can only be one thing in a life, is like, I've just been learned, I've just been taught so much that like,

• 1:37:35Speaker 01

  you're an accountant, or you're a lawyer, or you're, and now we're living in a world where it's like, you can be all of those things, you can be all of those things. And so I just, saying like, oh, you can only be one thing in life, is probably the most wrong thing anyone's ever said to me, for sure.

• 1:37:51Jay Shetty?

  That's a great answer. Great answer. All right, third question. In one sentence, explain what is your current purpose or intention?

• 1:38:02Speaker 01

  I think my intention currently.

• 1:38:05Speaker 01

  Would be, I almost wanna say in this, and it changed honestly this week is to just share more of myself by, by learning about myself publicly. I would, and, and it's usually, cause a couple of months ago, my intention was like to help evolve consciousness in whatever way. But now I really feel like it's my, and I hope this isn't taken the wrong way, but um, I'm just really excited to, to share myself. Like I'm, I've worked so hard to be who I am and I'm not like afraid nor scared to say that I love myself and I'm really honored to be who I am and like I'm gonna continue to work and continue to be better, but like sharing more of myself without the fear of

• 1:38:50Speaker 01

  rejection would be my intention. And so like in all aspects of vulnerability. Yeah.

• 1:38:57Jay Shetty?

  That's a beautiful answer. Thank you. I love that. Yeah, that's awesome. All right. Question number four is what's the biggest lesson you've learned in the last 12 months since launching We Are Warriors? For yourself?

• 1:39:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. For myself, I mean, for myself, I would say, um, you are what you've always wanted to be. That's really, that's really weird when you like, when, as soon as you decide you wanna be something, you already are that. It's now it's just about proving to yourself that you're already, but you already are, like you already manifested it. And for like the girls, I would say, um, I've learned a lot about teaching and how that works. Cause I've always been curious of like, how do we teach kids and how do we keep it to stick and, or keep it sticking when they learn it and like that. The best way to teach is to be the example and we've heard that so many times, but I've had to personally step up as a mentor.

• 1:39:56Speaker 01

  And show that it's not about me listening to a story and being like, this is what you did wrong. This is how you should evolve. It's like me being like, hey, guys. So this is usually how all the live calls are. Hey, guys. So today, this this happened to me this week. Let's talk about this subject of letting go, but knowing when to let go. And then ironically, every single girl in the live was like, I was feeling this way too this weekend. So there is this like innate connection of like, if you can grow from each lesson that happens the day or the day of, and then just like be present with the experience and then show education in that way. That's when you can help people evolve the quickest, I believe. I think I'm just like at a speed thing, like let's all like quick. So you have to be it.

• 1:40:38Jay Shetty?

  Love it. Awesome. Fifth and final question.

• 1:40:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:40:42Jay Shetty?

  If you could create one law in the world that everyone had to follow, what would it be?

• 1:40:48Speaker 01

  Uh, you have to go outside at least an hour a day. I think would be.

• 1:40:53Jay Shetty?

  In nature.

• 1:40:54Speaker 01

  In nature, in nature, barefoot, preferably. Um, one to just acknowledge it. Yeah. To acknowledge it. Um, and also to like, grow a love for it, to like care, to see it. Um, and it's also for your health. I mean, we get like, we're like, oh, why is our health declining? I'm like, when we're eating fake food, we're watching fake things, we're, um, you know, have, we don't have the best air anymore because of even plastic itself. Like there's a lot of things that we have to combat now. Our water is not that good. Like there's so many things that we find invisible, but it's like always there. And so making the most of it, even if it's go sit on a rock, talk to an ant. Like I've done very weird things when it comes to nature, but like, it's very like.

• 1:41:38Jay Shetty?

  What's the weirdest thing you've ever done? I'm asking you this question. I'm breaking all my rules.

• 1:41:43Speaker 01

  Uh, what's the weirdest thing I've ever done?

• 1:41:44Jay Shetty?

  Talking to an ant.

• 1:41:45Speaker 01

  Well, one time I like, we talked to a tree for like an hour. So that was weird. That was like, I was very outside of my comfort zone. Do you ever do it when you're like doing something so weird, you get goosebumps?

• 1:41:53Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:54Speaker 01

  Alexis.

• 1:41:54Jay Shetty?

  For sure.

• 1:41:55Speaker 01

  Stop like.

• 1:41:56Jay Shetty?

  For sure.

• 1:41:56Speaker 01

  But you feel like it's activating something. Like whenever I get goosebumps, I'm like, something's happening.

• 1:42:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:02Speaker 01

  And so I just, I pretended the tree was like, like Mother Nature. I mean, I guess it is. I didn't pretend, but I pretended it was like, you know, Pocahontas with the tree? Like, that was like, kind of what I was trying to go for. And I just like talked to it for, I would say about an hour. And it was the most like beautiful thing. It was also really cheesy and stupid, but I, it was, yeah, just having a conversation with nature herself was really cool.

• 1:42:25Jay Shetty?

  It's beautiful. Everyone, Alexis Rand, that's your final five done. Everyone, if you wanna go and join the We Are Worriers community, we're gonna have the link in all of the descriptions. Wherever you're watching this, listening to this, please, please go and join the community. Please tag me and Alexis on Instagram, on Twitter, any platform that you're on to tell us what you learned from this. I love seeing, and we've been talking about being teachable and being curious. I'd love to know, we'd love to know what you learned, what you're curious about, what you're going to practice, what you're going to try out because of this episode. Alexis, it has been an absolute joy to sit down with you. Like, this is, I was already looking forward to sitting down with you. I have to honestly say to you, and I'm saying this on air and online, because I want people to know,

• 1:43:10Jay Shetty?

  this has exceeded all of my expectations, and I was already so excited about this. So, I just wanna thank you for sharing from your heart, sharing vulnerably, and with this comedic side that I'd never seen before. So, I loved all of it, and I really encourage all of you to, you know, just follow Alexis and see what's going on, because I'm excited for you. I'm so excited for you, and I am so looking forward to being a part of the journey and admiring.

• 1:43:39Speaker 01

  I know, because now you're my friend.

• 1:43:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly, and cheering. So, I'm looking forward to that, but thank you so much.

• 1:43:45Speaker 01

  Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it.

• 1:43:47Jay Shetty?

  Just talking about forgetting time, we've been talking for two hours.

• 1:43:53Speaker 01

  Whoa, that's cool. See what I mean?

• 1:43:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and I love that, I just wanna leave that with everyone. That thing that Alexis said blew my mind, like, it was really powerful. So, she said something about, one second, there were two things now that, now that I was saying there was one thing, there were actually lots of things, there were lots of things, but there were two things. There is gold in pain, that really stuck with me, you said that, there is, there is gold in pain. And the second one was that, you know, like, being passionate or being curious about something is when you forget time. And that was, and that's what we just did. Like, I literally looked down, I'm like, you've been here for, like, we started recording about 1 hour 15 minutes, probably 1 hour 45, and yeah, we've, we've been talking for two hours. So, I just wanna say that, so, thank you.

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