Scooter Braun ON: Self-Forgiveness & Learning to Love Yourself Unconditionally

Scooter Braun sits down with Jay Shetty to talk about how we aren’t able to truly love ourselves unconditionally, understanding the concept of role models versus real models, and the dangers of living a public life. Scooter Braun is media proprietor, investor, and record executive widely known for managing artists such as Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, and Demi Lovato. He founded Schoolboy Records and Ithaca Ventures and co-founded 100 Thieves. Sign up for Jay Shetty’s free “Pursuit of Purpose” Live Masterclass at www.jayshettypurpose.com Episode Resources: Scooter Braun | Website Scooter Braun | Instagram Scooter Braun | Twitter Scooter Braun | YouTube Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Jay Shetty?

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• 1:15Speaker 01

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• 1:44Speaker 02

  What happened to me in my life is statistically impossible. So someone upstairs was looking out. Yet I wasn't showing that respect of saying, I trust that you love me. I trust that everything's going to be okay. Giving that trust to the universe, I've seen amazing miraculous things start to happen in my life.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  You and your wife have the most amazing eyes. So having to stare directly at you and do this podcast, I feel like I'm slowly falling in love. So there you go. So now we now we can do this. I have to stare into those pools.

• 2:19Jay Shetty?

  So this is why you don't look at me often. This is why. I was like, I was like, Scooter doesn't give me eye contact.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  It's funny, the prince is right there because there's that famous joke of like, never look prince in the eyes, you'll fall in love. This is what you learned at the Jay Shadie Podcast.

• 2:31Jay Shetty?

  I love it, man. And you look different since the last time I saw you.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, shaved.

• 2:35Jay Shetty?

  Shaved and you look well, though. You look great, man.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  Thanks, man.

• 2:38Jay Shetty?

  And and I wanted I wanted to tell people because I think when people see people connecting, they don't realize sometimes how organically people meet. And I want to share that story if that's okay. And you can you can fill in the details.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 2:51Jay Shetty?

  Uh, but it was a couple of years ago, we were at our mutual friend, Justin Boldoni's movie premiere.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:57Jay Shetty?

  He had the movie coming out Five Feet Apart.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 3:00Jay Shetty?

  And I went to the movie premiere. I was running late. I didn't think I was gonna make it. I was like, oh, gosh, I don't want to let Justin down. I really want to be there for him. And then I'm walking in and then I see you walking in. And I knew who you were based on all the incredible work you've been doing for two decades now or more. And

• 3:21Speaker 02

  And I and I knew you.

• 3:22Jay Shetty?

  And I didn't know that.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  I was a fan of what you were putting out there and I was and the positivity. So when I saw you, I got just as just as excited.

• 3:30Jay Shetty?

  So I got excited and I was in this space where I was like, I have to go and tell him because if someone's impacted your life or you love the artist they work with, the work that they do. Today, we're going to discuss all the philanthropy work you're doing. When you're into someone, I feel like it's so important to not go and ask for a picture, but to go and express how you feel about them. And so I came up to you and I was like, Scooter, I'm a big fan of all the work you're doing. Congratulations. And then when you said it back to me, and and I remember the words you said, they were so powerful and it just showed me how present you were. And and I think maybe, you know, people don't know this about you because not everyone gets to bump into you. But you were like, I I said, the work you're doing is really important. Thank you for doing it. And you you said, you're doing the most important work.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  And I meant it.

• 4:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and it was, it really touched my heart. I was so, you know, I was so humbled and honored to hear that from you.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  And then we we were like, well, let's get together. And I think you kind of looked at me when I said it as like, okay, yeah. We're not really gonna get together.

• 4:28Jay Shetty?

  Definitely.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  And we ended up going for lunch, our, you know.

• 4:32Jay Shetty?

  The next day.

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, our wives met and we became friends, you know. And then you joined us on a trip and, you know, it's, I just, I'm so happy to see your message getting louder and louder and bigger and bigger. Because I think you're you're giving people a lot of the things they need to hear and a lot of positivity and allowing them to slow down and take a breath.

• 4:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, thank you, man. And I've always felt that support from you. And we've had some amazing trips and.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  And some good walks.

• 5:00Jay Shetty?

  And some good walks as well, some really important walks and meaningful times in my life. And you've always been so helpful, mentoring, supportive as well. And so, thank you. But today, I think, you know, the fascinating thing for me is that you have these incredible artists that you founded. You then have the man behind the people, the work, the person. But then, even far removed from that, you have the work that the man is doing behind the scenes. And so it's almost like you're twice removed, the the real you, the the behind the scenes version of you is almost so distant from what people experience on the front lines. That's what I want to discover today and share today, because that's what I feel I got a glimpse of.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, I think you did. And I think it's so funny that we're doing this because we talked about doing this pre-COVID.

• 5:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  And then COVID hit and a lot of things happened, a lot of things changed. Um, and, you know, for me, COVID was an opportunity to slow down and do some real self-reflection um, and self-work, which I think we all should be doing at all times, you know, I I really came to terms with the fact that as long as I'm breathing, I'm a student. Um, and it's funny that you start there because, obviously, my nickname is Scooter. And my my given name was Scott. And I can tell you, I don't remember ever liking the name Scott. Until now, you know, I didn't realize until I did the work I've done really over

• 6:29Speaker 02

  the last six months that I kind of left Scott behind in a way and built something that I thought was powerful enough to be in the world, something that I thought deserved to be loved by the world. And I didn't realize, subconsciously, how much I had left that inner child behind. And my friends didn't realize it. And I was having fun, everything else, but I was always kind of trying to build something new because of, you know, you and I spoke about this. One of the quotes that I loved, someone said, many times we don't know our trauma because it was never ours. And, you know, my grandparents are Holocaust

• 7:11Speaker 02

  survivors and my parents went through what they went through. And I feel like I kind of inherited some of that, where I always felt like, when is it going to get taken away? When are they going to show up and take it away from me? So I was always building for something else, to protect me and my family, not realizing that everything that I ever needed was right here in the present. And doing this work, I went back and got Scott. And I think you saw a glimpse of that, certain friends of mine saw a glimpse of that. And I feel like coming out of COVID, I'm putting that more on the forefront.

• 7:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love hearing that. Yeah, I started there just because I think it's, it's the root of today's conversation, you know, us sitting down here today is, is two friends wanting to go deep in a conversation we would have offline, but online. And hearing you say that is so freeing, I'm sure for everyone who's listening and watching for themselves too. Because I think all of us are holding on to a trauma that's not ours or, or something that we experienced. Let's, let's focus on that. Let's go back then to what were you like as a kid? Because I'm intrigued to know, I didn't know you then. What were you like? Like, were you always confident? Was there an insecurity? What is it that you were working through as a kid, or at least in hindsight?

• 8:24Speaker 02

  You know, look, I, out of respect for people that I love, there's certain things I'm not, not going to go into, only because I realize now. That we all see the world through our lens. And when you really start to do the work, you realize that things that happen to you, a lot of times were happening to you because it's all that people knew. You know, and it's not about resenting anyone or being angry. It's actually about loving more and then changing the pattern. You know, because you're choosing that for yourself. So what I can tell you is I was a very sensitive, loving kid. And loved everybody, loved having fun, loved shining my light out there, but was super sensitive.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  And I think as I grew up, I was, you know, I was raised for a tough world. And I was raised by very loving people, but there was a lot of trauma. You know, like I said, the Holocaust, like things happened. And when people go through that, they're trying to protect their next generation. They're trying to protect their loved ones. So they're giving them that, what you need to look out for. And I'm grateful for that in many ways because there's great things that come with that. But also as a child, you don't really have that rational thought until you're like six or eight years old. So you're interpreting things the way you are. You don't realize you're setting these patterns. And I'm not embarrassed to say this, you know, one of the things I did during COVID.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  In fact, I'm not the opposite embarrassed, I'm grateful to these people. I, I canceled four times on something called the Hoffman process. And I finally went in October. Because, you know, friends were pushing me and saying, this is going to be great for you. And I was like, what do I need this for? And I finally went and it was the greatest gift I ever gave myself. And it was the first time in 20 years that I went, no phone, no email, no TV. I was completely ingrained in this process. And funny enough, which is why you and I haven't connected, when I got out, everyone was like, okay, he's going to turn his phone back on. And I actually got a burner phone and didn't turn my actual phone back on until the end of the year. Until 2021, really. And I.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  You know, my team stepped up for me. I was kind of going through a couple of different people and, you know, giving the suggestions and helping. And um, the artists that I work with were incredibly respectful of it and appreciative because, you know, I'd been there for them and I remember them looking at me like now it's time for us to be here for you and let you go through, you know, your learning or whatever. And um, and I I've really had a shift in my life and uh, I couldn't be more grateful because you go through and things are going good. You're seeing other people in their trauma, you're seeing other people with whatever they're going through and you don't want to look at yourself because you're like, well, my life's so good. I I have nothing to complain about.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't need to do this work because who am I to even say I need help? You know, when people are really going through problems, I should just focus on the good things in my life. And what I realized is we all deserve the right to slow down and say, why am I hurting? What am I going through? What work can I do? And um, I'm grateful that a lot of people that love me pushed me to do that.

• 11:43Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing. I'm so, when you told me you did that recently when we were talking, I was so happy and the other conversation we had that was attached to that, it actually brought me so much joy because I feel like when someone in your life that you care for actually invest in themselves and now is saying no to certain opportunities or delaying events in their life or priorities in their life, like huge priorities. I mean, your artists have huge, like not huge, it's not astronomical careers with constant releases, with constant work. And the fact that you took that time, they're getting to see what you're prioritizing. And what I find so special about that is you had to,

• 12:25Jay Shetty?

  it's amazing to think about this, but you had to feel you were worthy of that time, that you had to feel like you deserved it and that you couldn't just neglect it because yes, you do have a blessed, fortunate life which you're grateful for.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  Very.

• 12:39Jay Shetty?

  Tell us about that feeling of.

• 12:42Jay Shetty?

  Feeling worthy, because I feel like that's such a

• 12:45Speaker 02

  Feeling like you're enough, to be honest with you. I think, you know, one of the things I learned there is we have these core shame lies. You know, that we tell ourselves that affect us and create our fear and create our transference with other people. And it's not the root of things. I mean, I got a new tattoo, actually, when I got out. It says, "Love more" on my chest. Uh, because that's the number one lesson I learned. That's how you need to respond to really most things.

• 13:08Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  And I'm working on that every single day with everything. Whenever I feel resistance, I realize, oh my God, this isn't, there's a lesson for me here.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  One of the things I had to realize is that I'm, I'm good enough, because there's this weird thing that like, you kind of go through life wondering, are you good enough? And all these things are happening for you and you're wondering, do I really deserve this? Am I good enough? The other thing I realized was, none of us truly love ourselves unconditionally. And then how are we supposed to love other people unconditionally? To me, the way God loves us is unconditional. And one of the things I really had to go through and, you know, what I'm reminding myself every day in my daily meditations now is that one, you're good enough, two, you're lovable, two, everyone else deserves love. And then the biggest thing I'm, I'm realizing is that I need to trust. You know, trust in the unknown. Because

• 14:01Speaker 02

  you go out there and you, "I gotta make this happen. You know, I'm asleep when I'm dead," like all these different things. And the truth is, what happened to me in my life is statistically impossible. So someone upstairs was looking out. And they've given me a life with every single sign that God loves me and is looking out for me, yet I wasn't showing that respect of saying, "I trust that you love me. I trust that everything's gonna be okay." And giving that trust to the universe, I've seen amazing miraculous things start to happen in my life.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  And I, I can tell you, it's almost like I'm prospering better than ever before.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Because of that, and the challenges have been getting harder and harder and continuing. But it's almost like these tools now are allowing me for the waves to hit me and I'm swimming through them. And I'm understanding with everything, there's something else to be learned.

• 14:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. See, when I'm hearing you say it, you can tell that it's been so realized. Because a lot of these things, we hear them in daily talk, like, oh yeah, you should learn from everything in life. And every, every challenge has a lesson and opportunity. But when you hear someone say it and they're living it, it just, it sounds different and it hits different. And the biggest thing you said, which really resonated with me just now is the idea of the love more, the tattoo you got. I read this incredible statement from a writer called Russell Barkley. He's no longer with us, but the statement he said, like, literally, this is like, it's changed how I view every situation. And it correlates so similarly to the experience you had.

• 15:34Jay Shetty?

  So Russell Barkley said, people who need the most love often ask for it in the most unloving ways. And literally every day when I'm living my life, I see people ask me for love, sometimes in the most unloving ways. And I think we've all experienced that.

• 15:53Speaker 02

  Big time.

• 15:54Jay Shetty?

  Where someone's criticizing you, but really they just want love, where someone's trying to get something from you or reaching out to you, but they want love, like everyone's ultimately seeking love. But they are seeking it through validation or attention or recognition.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  And I think we learned that as a kid. I mean, I, I told my dad, you know, recently that you loved me so unconditionally that I see through the lies of fear. You know, because how, you know, we were giving our kids in a weird way, sometimes transactional love. Because we're trying to teach them lessons. And then you go through life and I never thought I was a transactional person because I'm not like that with money.

• 16:32Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  But I realized I was like that weirdly with love, you know, and, and I was like that with respect. Oh, I'm not gonna, you know, you gotta respect me or respect is earned. Well, actually, I can give respect without receiving it.

• 16:45Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  You know, I can give love without receiving it. You know, I can do that for my own self. I'm just gonna respond with kindness because that's what I'm working on. And by the way, it doesn't always work. Like, there are mornings you wake up and you're fresh. We're human. And I think a beautiful thing my teacher said to me recently, he said, "Why are you giving yourself these unrealistic expectations?" And it was so beautiful what he said. It was, he said, "If you say to yourself, 'I'm gonna work out every single day this month,'" and then you miss one workout. You know what you normally do? You end up missing three or four because you're kind of ashamed that you missed that one. So you kind of fall off the wagon. The truth is, stop giving yourself this crazy expectation. Give yourself some self-compassion. We're not perfect. We're flawed. So if I miss that workout, you know what? That's okay.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  I'll get back on it tomorrow. You know, and the same thing goes with anger, with frustration. You're allowed to fall and stumble and then realize it and get back on. And that's the biggest thing I'm working on because I'm a perfectionist. I wanna, you know, I wanna get this learning right. But it doesn't, it doesn't end here. You know, if it ends, I die. You know, and then I could probably come back and learn again.

• 17:55Jay Shetty?

  Yep.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Which is, by the way, anyone wants to understand, you and I have talked about this, "Many Lives, Many Masters" by Brian Weiss is a very good book to read to kind of just give yourself an idea of why thinking about reincarnation is such a beautiful way to look at life.

• 18:09Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 18:11Speaker 02

  But yeah, it's, these are the things you and I talk about.

• 18:14Jay Shetty?

  This, this, oh, sorry, go ahead.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  No, I'm just saying, it's, people like get on the podcast and they're like, "We're gonna talk career and everything else." And I said, "I wanna do Jay's because we're probably not gonna talk any career."

• 18:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And well, for me, it's just, this coming from hashtag no days off. So when I met you, it was hashtag no days off. And I'm going down on a personal, but we worked out together. I have never thrown up that bad in my life, if you remember.

• 18:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was a little out of control with the expectations of working out.

• 18:40Jay Shetty?

  I was like.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  I was like, "Are you okay?"

• 18:42Jay Shetty?

  We worked out together. We did this crazy circuit. And I don't like high intensity for anyone who's listening or watching. And literally, we did this workout and, you know, I mean, you could tell Scoot has got a completely different body to mine. I'm doing.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  I'm not, I'm not like I was back then. But I will say, you are competitive.

• 18:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  Because you would not tell me you weren't okay.

• 19:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 19:01Speaker 02

  And I just said, "Jay, you look a little..." "No, I'm good, I'm good. Let's keep going." And there were three of us. And you didn't wanna be the one person falling out. And then finally, excuse me, I'm spinning. Finally.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  You literally sat down on the ground and you're like, I'm not okay.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  And you just, you say, I'm gonna go to the bathroom and you disappeared for a good forty-five.

• 19:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, literally, I was, I was puking like anything, but it was just, yeah, it was, yeah, I've always had that spirit of wanting to see how far I can go. And when I did that as a monk, there were experiences that broke me because we were doing crazy fasts, crazy meditations. And all it brought me back to was the realization that I wasn't Superman.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:43Jay Shetty?

  And, and I think that that's what I'm hearing from what I'm hearing you say too, is the idea of like, no matter how able you are and how capable you are and the boundaries that you push, we all still have shortcomings.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  And you're going to fall again.

• 19:56Jay Shetty?

  Correct.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  I'm having this learning and having this epiphany, I'm gonna break again.

• 20:01Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  You know, and, and this time I have tools to put my hand on my chest and say, we all suffer, the world is filled with suffering, give yourself some self-compassion.

• 20:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  You know, and, and give it to others. And um, it's, it's been a beautiful thing and I, I credit some amazing people in my life who really pushed me to go there. And, you know, when you go there, there's also sadness, you know, realizing how many things you missed because you were planning for something in the future. How many times you weren't present because you thought you had to protect something that you already had, you know, and I, I'm just grateful, I'm not gonna spend another thirty-nine years not knowing these things.

• 20:45Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  And I look forward to every five years telling you another level of learning.

• 20:50Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, it has to be that way.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  You know, and I, and I, and I, weirdly like, the falls are where the greatest learnings are.

• 21:00Jay Shetty?

  Thousand percent, thousand percent, and that's, and that's the problem, right? What you just said about missing a day over workout and then it ends up missing four days, it's the same when we go, okay, well now I'm not gonna fall because I've found a new place of enlightenment. And what we don't realize is, again, like you said, it may not be every five days, but every three or four years, there's gonna be another moment of revelation. And when you keep thinking, oh, no, no, this time I've got it. That's, that's where the mistake is made is like, oh, this time it's not gonna happen. But tell me about, what does it take? Because I remember you discussing the Hoffman project with me. Uh, when we first met and you were like, oh, I'm thinking of going to this, et cetera. I want to know a bit more about the process of Hoffman so that everyone can be exposed to and understand a bit more, as much as they can.

• 21:44Jay Shetty?

  But also, like, what does it take for someone like you to go in that direction? Like, what does it take? What happened? What's going on in order to urge you and encouraging you?

• 21:56Speaker 02

  It's not as significant.

• 21:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, it's not, no.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  It, it wasn't like, you know, it was funny when I went, I started, my wife and I started hearing all kinds of rumors of, oh, he's gone crazy and this and that, like, cause I was away and, you know, all kinds of weird things. But it wasn't that, it was just feeling like I wasn't present in my life.

• 22:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  And feeling like the people around me who love me. I felt they're hurt because, one, we're all coming in with our own trauma and weirdly, our trauma was matching up. And I couldn't fix it. I'm a fixer. You know, I'm the guy who, since I was a kid, I'm gonna make it be okay for everybody. And there was this, I just couldn't fix things in this moment in time. And suddenly, because I couldn't fix things, I started to spiral. I, I started to literally lean more into my negative patterns of, of wanting to control

• 23:00Speaker 02

  things because I couldn't fix things. And my heart was in the best place. I wanted everything to be okay and everyone to be happy. But I couldn't get everything in the right place. And I'd been playing in that chess game for so long and the board was getting away from me. And suddenly I realized.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  A very dark thought came into my head. The ultimate, I'm not enough. The ultimate, I shouldn't be here. And that's not me.

• 23:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  And when that thought entered my mind, I said, what are you doing here? I said, whoa, that, I've never gone that dark.

• 23:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  And I signed up for the Hoffman process the next day.

• 23:39Jay Shetty?

  Hmm. Why Hoffman? Tell us a bit about it for anyone who doesn't know, because I think I love giving credit where it's due to places and retreats.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  Started by a guy named Bob Hoffman. In the United States, there's one in the Napa area and there's one in Connecticut.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Amazing woman named Liza was the one who is one of the co-CEOs with her husband and it's a nonprofit. It's just an amazing process that really delves into spirituality, delves into early childhood, delves into your trauma, your patterns. Um, and you give yourself over for basically seven days.

• 24:12Jay Shetty?

  No phone, no email.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  No email.

• 24:14Jay Shetty?

  No even to your kids or your wife.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  No working out, no book, no nothing. And

• 24:18Jay Shetty?

  Writing?

• 24:19Speaker 02

  There's a lot of writing. What I will say to you is, I don't want to go into what the process is because it's important whoever does it.

• 24:25Jay Shetty?

  Does that?

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Is surprised.

• 24:27Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 24:28Speaker 02

  But what was interesting is I started, I had certain people, you know what you need? You need to go to Hoffman. And I'd canceled four times and it was always a reason, I'm not going to go to this. I don't need this, like, I'm busy. And one of my friends, who's one of the most brilliant friends I have.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  He said to me, when I went in, I went in to manipulate it so I can come out and show the people I love, look, I did this. Aren't you proud of me? Cause someone that, you know, he loved it done it. And he looked at me and he said, you can't manipulate this.

• 24:58Jay Shetty?

  Hmm.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  And I was fascinated that he said that because he's such a smart guy. And I'm like, what could they really do in a week? And he said, it's going to be the most remarkable experience of your life. And my other friend Penny had said it to me and, you know, and I, um, I decided I'm gonna go and it felt like I was, it was gone for a year almost, you know, and I really gave myself over to this process and made really amazing friendships. I wasn't like sharing, you share feelings and, you know, different things and I opened up in a way that I never expected. And I laugh now because I look back at the timeline of when we did things because I had this workbook and I realized that day two, I remember having such an intimate conversation with my teacher and I thought that must have been day five. It was day two. You went in deep.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I went in deep and I uncovered a lot of things and I realized a lot of things about myself, about my patterns, about forgiveness for myself, understanding of things, forgiveness of others. And, and I was just eternally grateful. And what was interesting is when I came out, I had this, oh, I'm so happy. I'm so in love with life and myself and the world and people. And I came back and I entered a lot of darkness.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  And, and the tools that I got at Hoffman allowed me to understand that the darkness was because that's what God wanted me to have. That's what, there were lessons that I needed to learn. I'd now been given these tools and there was no darkness. There was an opportunity to learn. There was an opportunity to go deeper every single day. And I always found that when I was doing my meditations, the biggest revelations were my deepest breaths, my longest deepest breaths, I'd have the deepest revelations. And I, in one of my meditations, I realized that's life. I'd been going around taking these quick breaths, treating my life that way. And I wasn't slowing down enough in life to take a deep breath and let it come to me.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  And that is, that just comes down to self forgiveness and, you know, and a lot of, a lot of beautiful things. And I'm really grateful to, you know, the people, I will never say who I was there with because they don't do that. And no one has ever said I was there. This is actually the first time I publicly said that I was there. And it was a very cool thing. I'm very grateful. And now, sharing this, there's so many other people who come to me of like their things of self-work that they've done. And they're like, you should try this and try this. And it's, it's just a very exciting place to be. And I can tell you, the greatest gift of all is for my children.

• 27:42Jay Shetty?

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• 28:26Jay Shetty?

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• 29:55Speaker 02

  I, I was a good dad before. I love my kids. I'd come home every night, put them to sleep and, you know, and I'm, I'm married to super mom.

• 30:04Jay Shetty?

  She's awesome.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  And I am present with my children in a way that I didn't know possible before. And I think that's the greatest thing Hoffman gave me.

• 30:15Jay Shetty?

  It's, it's so, it's so beautiful listening to someone have that experience. Like I could sit here and just listen to you all day because it's, it is, it, it's so gratifying to the soul, like on a much more deeper spiritual level to hear someone having that experience and, and, and doing that work. And how does that, and I, and I do want to talk a bit about career on this, on this level of frequency, because what I'm fascinated by, and I think this is what people often don't see as symbiotic, is how spiritual insight leads to spiritual career practice. How does, how does someone like you take this very profound experience and work?

• 30:57Jay Shetty?

  And by the way, having known you for a few years, like I know that this wasn't just seven days of work. This is years and years and years and years.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  There's a lot leading up to this.

• 31:04Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly. In seven days, where the seven days like accelerates and

• 31:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:08Jay Shetty?

  Like really makes it powerful and meaningful. But you've been doing this for a while and thinking about these things for a while. How does that then manifest in your work? How do you take this energy? Is it how you're dealing with people? Is it how you're creating stuff? How does someone do that? Because I think a lot of people, even I get asked this question a lot, is like they see spirituality and business is like almost separate.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I completely disagree.

• 31:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, same.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  You know, the other thing I, I want to point out, because I've been thinking a lot about this, is that The same way I said that I believe you get the lessons when you're supposed to get them. I believe you're supposed to, I don't think I should have had this mentality in the beginning of my career. I think that I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. The universe wants me to be exactly where I am. So, things, I needed to be a certain way at certain points to learn those things, for those things to happen. And now this is where I am at thirty-nine. And this is where I needed to learn. And now, you know, I'm, I'm having a different kind of grace. I'm having a different kind of empathy.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  I'm understanding to let go and allow people to have their process and their journey in a different way. Because I'm understanding my own in a different way. I'm, I'm not having this need to justify. You know, there's times where I'm, I'm seeing how I'm like, well, they're, they're seeing my growth as like, oh, he got there. And I'm sitting there like, well, you haven't got there either. And I'm, I'm smiling to myself because it's not my place to say that because it wasn't their place to say it to me. You know, and I'm, I'm here to, you know, it's almost funny. We talk about different religions, you and I. And I'm Jewish, you know, I've grown up in a Christian society.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  And I've gotten to a place also where understanding, I don't want to live my Judaism in fear. You know, thousands of years of persecution gave us strength, but also a lot of fear. And telling us we can't go near something. Yet, you know, Moses married Sepora, who was not Jewish. And when he brought her to his people and he said, she loves me and everything, no one questioned that. Just years of assimilation and losing identity caused us to have a tremendous amount of fear. And I don't want to live with that fear anymore. I want to explore other spiritualities and be true to myself and my own. You know, I'm not afraid to hear the wisdom of another spirituality. So, you know, my friend, he was giving a sermon. He's Christian and I listened and I thought it was beautiful. He was saying in the book of Matthew, it's not about saying it and teaching it.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  It's about living it and letting someone else see it. And I've now seen that, you know, we've talked about it within your religion. And I I I'm trying to get to that place of like, I don't have all the answers. I'm figuring it out every single day. I am as flawed as they get.

• 33:56Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  You know, but I'm just gonna try to live my best self.

• 33:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  You know, and you know, last night I did a clubhouse talk with Demi. And she became my client over the past year.

• 34:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  And she's been through a lot. We have this amazing documentary coming out.

• 34:10Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  And she and I were talking about her whole career. Every time she faltered, she has the strength to get back up and people call her a role model. And she's like, I'm just afraid because it's just too much perfection to live in. And then I always crash. And she started to do interviews for this new album and she's like, I want to be a role model. And I called her up and said, what are you doing? I said, you're giving yourself that same sense self, you know, perfection that caused you to fall before. I said, we gotta change the word. And I thought about my brother Adam, who has a nonprofit called Pencil Promise. And he told me, I don't want to be called nonprofit. I want to be called for purpose. I don't want to say what we don't do. I want to say what we do.

• 34:51Jay Shetty?

  Totally.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  And I said to Demi, stop calling yourself a role model. Let's go with real model. You're a real person and you are flawed and you are imperfect and you are honest. And you don't have to be perfect ever again. And we like that. And that's how she's saying now.

• 35:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  And I think if we start treating ourselves and others with this same sense of, that's why I hate cancel culture. I mean, I understand we all have a lot of pain. But if we don't give people an opportunity for growth, what are we doing? We're just giving the next generation the same pain. You know, and I, and it's a hard thing to ask people. It's a hard thing to ask when you've been abused, when you've been persecuted, when you've been mistreated, to love your neighbor.

• 35:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  You know, that's a very tall order and, and I don't think it's my right to tell someone to do it. But I can choose to start doing it in my own life. And I can tell you it's hard.

• 35:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 35:47Speaker 02

  It's hard and I falter and I stumble sometimes. And I, I said to my wife just the other day, I said, hey, I caught myself the other day. I was upset with someone and how they treated me. So I made a comment.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  To you, that wasn't the kindest comment about them. You know, it wasn't awful, but I just wasn't giving them their credit. Because I was upset about something that happened to me. I said, if you catch me doing that, can you just, if you notice it, just tell me to stay in my heart. And she was like, I got you. And I think that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to stay there.

• 36:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and that's that accountability culture, like, you know, you have someone in your life that you're being accountable to. Your wife in this example, and like, that feeling of, we do need accountability. We want to be accountable to ourselves, to the people we love, the people that are important. And I just wanted to point out, I don't know if you know this, how perfect it was that you said the real and role models thing. Tupac said, we need real models, not role models. And I'm looking at him, I'm looking at you, and I'm like.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  I'll take my shirt off.

• 36:46Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, show me the more love, love more, Tabby. But, but it's so, that's such a beautiful point. And, and you know, I, I want to share this because we talked about this. And I, and I struggle with that. So me and my wife, when we talk about relationships, we talk about our mistakes. If you listen to our podcast, she's been my guest three times. Every year, we do an episode together and we talk about everything we get wrong. And the number one comment will be hashtag relationship goals. Or the number one comment will be like hashtag cutest couple, or whatever it is. And my comment back will be, please listen to what I'm saying. And so what I find is that we've been conditioned and programmed to want someone to be perfect.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:26Jay Shetty?

  Demi, you, Justin, you know, Ariana, whoever, me and my wife.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  No one's perfect.

• 37:32Jay Shetty?

  None of us are perfect.

• 37:33Speaker 02

  That's why, you and I talked once, and I said, we're, we're made to serve, not to be worshipped. Because no one can live up to worship.

• 37:42Jay Shetty?

  No one, apart from God.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  God, that's it.

• 37:44Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  You know, worship God, serve each other.

• 37:47Jay Shetty?

  Yes. I love, that, that thought is, is perfect and beautiful. But that's what I mean, that because we've been conditioned to want to worship humans. We direct that worship into an athlete, into a singer, into a teacher, into a guide, whoever it is. But it's a shame that even when you have someone opening up and saying what it's actually like. Our programming up here is so strong that we still project perfection. So now, the new trend is, before it was, if you were flawless, or at least presented yourself as flawless. That was considered worship worthy. Today, now, it's the opposite. If someone's really vulnerable, that's worship worthy. But the point is, what you just said is, let's move away from worship completely, and let's just serve and support each other.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  I want to say two things to this. One is about you and one is about me.

• 38:33Jay Shetty?

  Okay. It's good. We're both in the room.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go with you first, just because, and then I can end on me, so you don't feel bad. A little over a year ago, you called me and you said, can we go for a walk? And we went for a walk. And I said, this is the unfortunate thing that we do to each other. We get to this place where we just want to tear each other down. And there's that line in Batman where they say, you know, if you do it, you know, well long, I forgot the line perfectly, but it's like, if you do it well, long, right?

• 39:00Jay Shetty?

  If you do something long enough.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  You too could be the villain.

• 39:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I know, exactly.

• 39:03Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 39:04Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me find it. It's a good line.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  It's, I think, I think Heath said it as the Joker.

• 39:09Jay Shetty?

  You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. Yeah.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 39:15Jay Shetty?

  It's Batman. Yeah, yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  Yep. And, and, and that's so spot on, and what we do to each other. And for me, I recently watched the Queen's Gambit special. The show on Netflix, which was fantastic. And I, coming out of Hoffman and seeing that, I just had this epiphany that I had been this chess player my whole life. I had stared at the board and people would come and show me attention and affection because of my skills on that board. So I thought, oh, that's love. So I'm gonna keep playing this game. And people said, wow, you're really good at this. You're smart. And you look at the career you're building. Look at the life you're building. The chess pieces are moving and moving and moving and moving. But I never took the time to stop, take a breath, and say, hey, I'm really good at this game.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  If you ever want to talk about it, I'm happy to. But my name's Scott. Nice to meet you. Until now. And so many people that loved me didn't know me. That's where the darkness was coming from, because I don't feel like I've changed. I feel like I've reclaimed myself. And that was the gift of this year. You know, I, and I've had so many friends, oh, you're such a change. I shaved because when I was doing a meditation, I saw the spiritual version of myself that I wanted to be. I didn't have a beard. And I literally shaved that night, and I haven't had a beard since. And

• 40:40Speaker 02

  I feel good because I went back and got me, you know, and, and I love the person that I was through all these years and that's a part of me. I just reclaimed the rest of me. And I was relying too much on one side of the body. I went and got the rest. And now I'm walking in a straight line and not putting so much pressure on my right foot.

• 41:01Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  You know?

• 41:03Jay Shetty?

  That must feel good.

• 41:04Speaker 02

  It does. And I have this teacher now who literally, I will lay out things that have been done to me that are very, anyone else would be like, and he looks at me and goes, well, what role did you play?

• 41:15Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  And it's an interesting thing because you go through life just learning.

• 41:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  And, you know, I think that's why, you know, I, I would look and people think, God, well, God forgave me. And I'd get frustrated growing up because I'd be like, you're just making an excuse using God.

• 41:32Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  But I actually now realize, why was I frustrated that they felt forgiven?

• 41:37Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  That was my stuff. I'm angry that they felt forgiven because I hadn't forgiven myself for something.

• 41:44Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  You know, and, and I had my own work to do and I was projecting my stuff on them.

• 41:50Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  And the truth is, if we can all get to a place,

• 41:55Speaker 02

  if God sees everything that we're doing, he sees our messy because we're all messy. But he loves our messy. If we can get to a place where we start to love each other in the messy, that's when you start to feel really loved. You know, I started to love myself in the messy. Now I'm loving other people in my life in the messy. And that's real love. It's, it's not, it's easy to love somebody when they're showing up for you all the time.

• 42:22Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  It's easy to love someone when

• 42:25Jay Shetty?

  They're doing good.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  When they're doing good and they're giving you this ideal of perfection that makes you feel good. You know, or not even perfection, they just make you feel good. It's so much harder to love somebody when they disappoint you. You know, and what I've started to realize is through my own actions, if someone's disappointed me, or when I've disappointed someone else, it's because I'm really disappointed in myself. You know, I'm projecting it onto somebody. And that's where that empathy comes from. And you and I could talk about this for hours. And, and I'm the first one to say, I'm scratching the surface of this.

• 43:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  I'm just figuring it out. I'm screwing up on a daily basis.

• 43:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  And I'm just starting to really give myself empathy for the first time.

• 43:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  And I'm excited about it. And I'm excited to learn. I'm excited to dig in. And I'm excited to be present.

• 43:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  I'm excited to have long conversations with people and like look them in their eyes. Like I'm looking you in your gorgeous eyes there.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  But I'm, I've always been, I want to honor you because I've always been grateful that you and I have had these conversations.

• 43:32Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, me too. I mean, it's been big for me because I think for me too, it's like you don't, you don't, you know, when, when things are changing and moving and growing fast and you're not even aware of half the things, and you, I mean, you do a million things. And so, and that's, and that's partly the mistake also, because you start recognizing, oh, well, if I'm not aware, or if I'm not conscious of everything I'm doing, then maybe I do need to slow down. Maybe I do need to change something. Maybe I do need to find the right people to be around me. And, and it all comes back to everything's trying to remind you to be conscious, to be awake.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 44:10Jay Shetty?

  To not try and get away with being asleep. Like everything's trying to wake you up all the time. Whereas we want to go to sleep in some areas of our life. We want to be, you know, like, you want to be able to just let go of this thing here over here.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  It's so exciting.

• 44:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 44:23Speaker 02

  When you start to have these discoveries within yourself that you want to share. So it's almost like, hey, the thing you, you've been learning the most when you're not talking. You know, so it's like this dichotomy. And then there's that grace of just like, it's okay.

• 44:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  I don't have to be so hard on myself. If I'm excited today, yeah, maybe I'm going to overtalk. That's okay. Tomorrow I can be quiet.

• 44:45Jay Shetty?

  Well, this is an interview with you.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I'm just saying like, it's, it's that, it's giving yourself that grace of like, and that, that's another pattern. Like as a kid, like, you know, you dim your light a little bit, like, oh, you're being too loud. And getting to a place in your life where

• 45:00Speaker 02

  You know, when your, when your child is running in front of you and they're being louder, they, you're not holding a grudge against your child. We hold these grudges as adults against ourselves and each other. But when we watch children play, they move on so quickly. And I wish we can get back to a little bit of that, you know, within ourselves. It's, you know, even today, I found myself just now being like, oh, you're talking too much. And then, maybe I am, but that's okay. You know, give myself a little bit of grace, like, that's okay. And you know what? I can shut up too. And like, there's no right or wrong here. It's two friends having a conversation and a bunch of people listening. And everyone's gonna have a different reaction.

• 45:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 45:39Speaker 02

  And that's okay.

• 45:40Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. What does compassion mean? When we say being compassionate with ourselves, it means to change your behavior enough so that you've shown that you've learned. But it means to love yourself as you're growing and changing that behavior.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  Which is confusing.

• 45:56Jay Shetty?

  It's confusing. But that's what it means, because when people hear the word compassion, they think, oh, you're just being soft on yourself. Like, oh, oh, you're not judging yourself, which means you're not holding yourself accountable. But being compassionate means, I know I need to change my behavior, I'm gonna start doing that, but I'm gonna love myself while I do that.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  And I think, I love that you said that, because let's take it a step further. Let's go back to that workout.

• 46:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Right? If I'm actually being compassionate with myself, I'll get back on it the next day.

• 46:21Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  You know, it's, we act as if we're, especially with cancel culture, we move in such a finite way. We don't think long-term. We don't think in judging our lives. We judge in the moment. And then we judge moments later, you know? So, it's, compassion to me is, allow yourself to understand you're just in a moment in a very long story.

• 46:50Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  You know, and your story is not written yet. You're just writing part of it right now. And- A great story is never stagnant.

• 47:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 47:01Speaker 02

  So how would your teachers tell you to treat each moment? Like, how do they, how do they say to go about it? Because the one thing I'm working on is, well, you still have to show up. You still have to show up to every moment. But how do your teachers tell you to show up to each moment? How do they tell you to treat it mentally as you go into it?

• 47:15Jay Shetty?

  The biggest mantra that was stated at the start of a moment was, don't judge the moment. As soon as you label a moment, it now gets labeled in that jar or that box or that filing cabinet and cupboard. And then now you never reflect on whether that label was right or wrong.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  So just be.

• 47:31Jay Shetty?

  So just be, because if you label, it's, it's the labeling type. The mind wants to label things to make it simpler. That was a good experience, that was a bad experience. That was a good taco, that was a bad taco. That was a good restaurant, it was a bad restaurant. But as soon as you label it, you now don't allow that to become anything else. What if that restaurant evolves? So the idea of labeling simplifies for the mind, but actually makes the long-term complex. So the idea is, instead of labeling, allow yourself to experience. Allow yourself to re-experience. And then if multiple experiences obviously give you the same experience, then you may put a label in pencil. But you're penciling labeling, you're not putting like a permanent marker.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  You know, it's funny, my teacher uses the word be curious.

• 48:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 48:14Speaker 02

  You know, it's, it's not be definitive.

• 48:17Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 48:18Speaker 02

  You know, be curious.

• 48:19Jay Shetty?

  Yes, exactly.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  And, but I want to play this game with you a little bit.

• 48:22Jay Shetty?

  Let's do it.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  I want to challenge you a little bit.

• 48:24Jay Shetty?

  I love it.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  Only because I want people listening to your podcast to hear you respond to this stuff. Cause I think you're brilliant about this. For those people who are listening to this podcast saying, okay, I get all this like, you know, growth and learning and everything else, but COVID's been hard and I've, I don't have a job right now and I can't pay my bills. And I've looked up who Scooter Braun is and this guy financially, he's not in the same place as me and he's out of touch. And he can talk about all this spiritual learning, but he doesn't know what I'm going through.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  They're right. They're right. I do not know their experience. I don't know anyone else's experience. I only know my own. But what I wanted to ask you is, what is your response to someone who is saying, this is easy to talk about, but what about in this capitalistic society that I live in? If I'm doing all this, I think I need to kind of just bury my head in the sand and just work, work, work, work, work. I don't have time for feelings and relationship. I need to get this money.

• 49:23Jay Shetty?

  Mm hmm.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  Because I've gone on this new app Clubhouse many times.

• 49:26Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  And I go into these rooms and I hear everybody talking about, get this money, get this money. How do I get to the top? How do I do this? How do I do that? And every time I go in a room, I keep trying to stay, the top of the mountain isn't what you expect. So I wanted to kind of push you on that. Because you have extraordinary people who are living extraordinary lives coming on here. And there are a lot of people out there. And I was once in, you know, certain positions, but I'm not in that position right now. And I'm sensitive to that. And I'm compassionate to that. What do you tell somebody who says, this is all nice and everything, but I don't get, I don't have that liberty?

• 50:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. So the first thing I'd say is that we all get to choose what our intention right now in life is. And if that's the intention that makes you happy and suits you, that's fine. Like, I wouldn't even, I don't even want to edit it. I don't even want to convince you of anything, because I remember being in a similar position myself, not so long back, a few years ago. And I know that I had an intention to make a choice. At the same time, I would say to them, if you're open to the idea that there is a better, smarter, more fulfilling way to go about making money, building a business, finding your way to the top, whatever you want to call it, then this is that path. And if you're open to

• 50:46Jay Shetty?

  that, then what you're hearing from Scooter, but again, what I loved you said, and you actually made this really clear, there was a mindset, you've got to this at the right time for you.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:55Jay Shetty?

  Which I'm remembering, because that means that that person, whoever's saying that, is going to get to this. I've, I don't know anyone who I meet, who doesn't get to this. Whether they're a billionaire, or whether they just started out. I was lucky enough to get here at 18 when I met my monk teachers. This is the stuff I was talking about at 18 years old, because that's what I was given in this life. And there are some people that I've met that have taken till seventy to get it. Some people are in their thirties. And the point is that you are gonna have to get here at some point. Everyone's gonna have to get to this point.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  And you need the context from before.

• 51:28Jay Shetty?

  Correct.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  That's what my, I love this.

• 51:30Jay Shetty?

  But just do whatever you do intentionally.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  That's my, my teacher said to me, he goes, you're exactly where you're supposed to be. And it's, you know, Coretta Scott King said, each generation has to fight the fight all over again.

• 51:39Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  You know, it, all of us, none of us get out unscathed.

• 51:44Jay Shetty?

  No one.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  And all of us get the blessing of the journey.

• 51:46Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 51:47Speaker 02

  You know, and I was thinking about, you know, the, this, the, the teaching we all get in our Judeo-Christian society of Adam and Eve. And this idea that we sinned and we were cast out.

• 51:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 51:58Speaker 02

  We were punished. We were punished, we were cast out. We realized we were nude. We were ashamed. That's why we started wearing clothes, all this different stuff. And I started thinking about that as a parent.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  Because we're all God's children.

• 52:11Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  So I was like, well, let me rephrase this in my mind. When I give my child a consequence or a punishment, I don't do it because I'm mad at them.

• 52:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 52:24Speaker 02

  I do it because I love them and I'm trying to guide them to an important lesson.

• 52:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  And I realized that my idea of this idea that the original sin took place was wrong.

• 52:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 52:36Speaker 02

  I believe that all of us, because God loves us and wants us to learn,

• 52:45Speaker 02

  are given the gift of life and the gift of struggle.

• 52:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  And the gift of being cast out so that we can go and get the context we need to appreciate the Garden of Eden, the heaven.

• 52:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  So spirituality, the enlightenment.

• 52:59Jay Shetty?

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  And it's been an exciting way to look at things now.

• 53:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 53:05Speaker 02

  That everything, that's why I loved reading Many Lives, Many Masters, because when I kind of realized that a lot of major religions in spirituality actually all

• 53:14Jay Shetty?

  Believe in reincarnation.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Believe in reincarnation. Kabbalah talks about reincarnation. A lot of major religions talk about reincarnation in their spirituality practices.

• 53:20Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  And when you read this book, which is a true story.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  And you kind of understand that if you just kind of accept that you get to come back and you're always learning.

• 53:31Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  You start to not fear death anymore and you start to realize this is going to be hard. There are days my heart's going to ache. There are days I'm not going to want, I feel like I can't breathe because I'm hurting. But all of those feelings, all of that is helping us learn things and give us context for greater lessons.

• 53:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  And I'm in it and I'm excited and I know that the funny part is I've come to terms with the fact of like, oh, I'm not here to have this great life. I love my life and I'm grateful and I'm going to like I've told you, you know, I'm going to keep pouring my glass in other people's glasses.

• 54:02Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 54:03Speaker 02

  But I think the thing I'm most thrilled about is now I understand that pain is coming. Happiness is coming. Joy is coming. Heartache is coming. When I least expect it. Because the fact that I wake up every morning and I'm still breathing means that there's something else for me to learn. I kind of take some joy in that now.

• 54:23Jay Shetty?

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• 55:08Jay Shetty?

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• 55:51Jay Shetty?

  This episode is brought to you by Whole Foods Market. If you're talking about quality food, you can't forget Whole Foods Market, who've been holding themselves to the highest standards since they opened in 1980. That means you'll see thousands of organic products across their stores, from the produce department to the aisles. It also means you'll never see certain ingredients. They've banned artificial sweeteners and colors, high fructose corn syrup and more, so you can shop with peace of mind. Shop Whole Foods Market in-store or online. But, oh, what you just said, that, when you just said at the end, that last statement you said, "But I take joy in that now." That was, this sounds intense,

• 56:35Jay Shetty?

  but it's actually beautiful, and that's where the joy part comes in. So when we were trained, the scripture would say that "life is about education, not enjoyment." Like, life's about enlightenment, not enjoyment. Now, what I mean by that is, the joy of learning is the joy of life, but we are seeking enjoyment through the temporary pleasure, through the external satisfaction, through the quick win, through the top, through the mountain, whatever it may be. And as soon as you switch that, so every area you walk, if you walked into every room today, and you went in there and said, "How can I learn from it? And how can I serve in it?", versus, "How can I enjoy this moment?"

• 57:18Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 57:19Jay Shetty?

  That's the difference.

• 57:20Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 57:20Jay Shetty?

  We walk into every room going, "How can I enjoy this?" You see a woman or a man, you go, "How can I enjoy them?" You see a house, you go, "How can I enjoy this?"

• 57:27Speaker 02

  You know what's funny? I'm thinking to myself, "Where's the struggle?" The struggle is, when I haven't learned the lesson from the last room, and I'm still stuck on that lesson, and I gotta walk into the next room.

• 57:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 57:35Speaker 02

  And that's where you start to get into vicious cycle, and you know, it's like, you start to falter. Give yourself that grace of, "Hey, let's slow down. Let's take that big, deep breath.

• 57:44Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 57:44Speaker 02

  Let's reset." It's why, you know, when you went on that trip together, you guys were waking up every morning and meditating.

• 57:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  And I was like, "Oh, I've learned TM, but I now meditate every morning."

• 57:53Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  And it has changed my life.

• 57:55Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  And you know what? Let me rephrase that. I try to meditate every morning. There are days that I miss. And now I give myself the grace of, I'll get back on it tomorrow. Or maybe I'll do a quick one tonight. You know, I'm not, oh, I meditate every day.

• 58:10Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  You know, it's, I, I enjoy meditating. I like what it does for me. And if I miss one, I give myself that grace and I get back on the, you know, horse tomorrow.

• 58:19Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. But that's what I mean, that, that, that the joy, like people go, well, then where's the fun in life? I'm always learning. Where's the fun? The learning is the fun part. Like, when you come into a new place and like your teacher said, you're curious. Like when you came in here, you were like looking at the quotes, looking at the people. You're not trying to enjoy the art. You're like curious and you want to learn. That is the fun of life.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  That's childlike.

• 58:40Jay Shetty?

  That's childlike. Exactly. Where a childish mentality is to enjoy.

• 58:45Speaker 02

  Well, you know, it's funny, as I started diving into all the different major religions.

• 58:49Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  There's a quote in almost every major religion that talks about God. If you, like, they, they ask Jesus, they say, show me, you know, show me God. And he says, look at the child.

• 58:57Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  And in Judaism, they say it. And in Hindu, they say it. Like all these different, every religion, you'll find something that points to the child.

• 59:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  And the innocence of the child and the love the child has. And, you know, for me, I talked to someone who actually went to Hoffman after me. And, you know, this person hit me up and they were like, I'm losing the high. Life is pulling me back in. I'm getting depressed. I'm losing the high that I had three weeks ago when I got out. How do I get it back? And I said, I don't know if I'm right, but I'll try and answer this question. And the way I'm gonna answer it, I don't know if you're gonna like. I said, you got a high because you dealt with your worst demons. And then you gave yourself forgiveness and you learned.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  If you want to get that high again. Stop looking for the happiness. Look for the resistance. Look for the lessons in the resistance. And when you have the epiphany again, you'll get that high back.

• 59:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and that's, that's exactly the point I'm making is that we're looking for the high in life constantly. We're looking for the enjoyment, we're looking for that uh release, that, that fun moment. But you got that experience from the work.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:12Jay Shetty?

  Right? And, and that's such a beautiful way of looking at it. Tell me about some of the projects that you're working on right now that excite you the most, that you feel like are allowing you to love more. Some of these could be, I know SB Projects media work, but it also could be some of the philanthropy work that you're doing that behind the scenes. Some of the work that you feel so excited and proud of. Because I also want to give you an opportunity, as I want everyone who's listening to have the opportunity, to celebrate the stuff that they're excited about. Because again, you'll dim your own light. So I'm gonna ask you to brag about what you're doing.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  No, I appreciate that, but it's, it's weird because of where I am right now.

• 1:00:46Jay Shetty?

  Service-based?

• 1:00:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, but even service-based, I mean, I am having the most joy out of watching people that I supported have their own wins. Weirdly, that is my biggest joy right now. Watching Justin Bieber take ownership of this album the way he has. Ownership of the performances the way he has. Ownership of his decision-making the way he has.

• 1:01:17Speaker 02

  This is the most hands-on he's ever been in his career. This is the most he's fought to push back on all of us to say, I got this. And I told you the other day, proud is not the word, I respect it. I respect it so much. I'm so happy to see where Ariana is in her personal life, in her decision-making, in her choosing to face.

• 1:01:47Speaker 02

  So much trauma she's been through publicly and be the person that she is. I'm grateful watching this demi-documentary, like I'm blown away by her, you know, I'm,

• 1:01:59Jay Shetty?

  I can't wait to see it.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  You know, I'm Andrew Watt, just one producer of the year. I know the year and a half that he's had. And for him to come out the other side and then tell me the Grammy was amazing, but the work I'm doing on myself has been the greatest reward. I mean, I'm really proud of a lot of people in my professional life. And then I'm really proud of the people in my personal life because I'm seeing them do the same thing. So it's weird, like, the accolades for me aren't necessarily the fact that I'm moving the chess pieces. I did that for a really long time. It's that I'm seeing all these other people who've been around me in my life and I'm looking over at their chessboard and I'm admiring their game.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  You know, I'm admiring their game and I'm admiring who they are and I'm admiring who they're showing up to be and I'm just admiring their journey.

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  And I'm not passing judgment. I'm just enjoying watching. I'm curious.

• 1:03:00Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  You know, and to me, the funny thing is, in the last six months, since I've let go more, commercially, I think I've had more success than I've ever had in my life. Because I'm trusting. And I think there's a weird reward in trusting the universe because I'm finding that joy. And things have not been easy at times.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  But I'm leaning into those uneasy times and saying, where, what is this resistance? Like, why am I hurting? What does that really mean? What is there for me to learn there? And I'm doing that as often as I possibly can. That's what I'm celebrating. That's what I'm excited about. I'm Getting to a deeper place, and I'm hoping that my friends like you hold me accountable in six months when I start getting out of that.

• 1:03:55Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  And remind me of this and say, are you doing your meditations? Have a little self compassion that you've missed a bunch.

• 1:04:03Jay Shetty?

  Now you're giving me permission to do that.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I want that because I think that's what friends are for, right?

• 1:04:07Jay Shetty?

  If you give them permission.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I give you full permission to keep me accountable, to make me continue to learn. The same way I said to my wife, tell me to get back in my heart. You know, like, and, and I think we all should be that for each other, but not in a judgmental way.

• 1:04:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I'll probably reach out and say, let's meditate together.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:04:26Jay Shetty?

  That's what I'll do so that I'm accountable too. Because yeah, it's.

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  It's, I, I, like I said, I've always been grateful for our friendship. I've been grateful knowing that I have a friend who's as spiritual as you are and enjoys the conversations of spirituality. Um, because it allows, you push me and you inspire me and I'm grateful for this friendship.

• 1:04:48Jay Shetty?

  Well, you're the same, man. I, I feel like the way you've opened up today. And, and this is what I'd like, this is what I try and do on this podcast. Everyone who's been listening or watching, for me, I like learning about the full human. So when I sit down with someone, I'm not seeing them as an athlete or a manager or a artist, or I'm, I'm seeing you as a complete spiritual being. And I want to hear that story. So when you're listening to this, whoever's listening or watching, listen to that story with every one of our episodes and this one included as well. Because it's so easy to listen to interviews these days and people pick out the one little thing. And then that becomes the meme and the whatever it is.

• 1:05:32Jay Shetty?

  And it's like, but you missed the point of the whole conversation. Like, again, what we've been encouraging for our own selves as well. Just as if you don't give someone else the permission to have context, we are blocking ourselves from having context of our own self.

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:46Jay Shetty?

  And that's the biggest thing I've learned from today, hearing you say it, which reaffirms my belief of the understanding that if you're not giving someone a chance to explain, express, be curious, make mistakes, then you're basically blocking yourself from doing the same thing.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 1:06:02Jay Shetty?

  And, and the more permission you give everyone to do that, the more.

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  You give yourself permission to say, what was my role?

• 1:06:07Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that. What was my role was.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  Because I think that's where it starts. If you can forgive yourself.

• 1:06:12Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  For something you might not even recognize?

• 1:06:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Then it's much easier.

• 1:06:16Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  You asked me what happened earlier and I was thinking about that just now, like, you know, is there a specific thing that happened?

• 1:06:23Jay Shetty?

  No, yeah.

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  You know what happened? My wife, Yale, and my children, I learned I love somebody more than me. And loving them made me go do the work. So what happened is they were the greatest gift in my life. And for that, I'm eternally grateful.

• 1:06:42Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  And I want each of them to have their own individual process and their own individual journey.

• 1:06:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  You know, and I want them to know that I love them and they're messy.

• 1:06:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  You know, and, and, uh, and I'm just grateful for them. That's it.

• 1:06:58Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. I love that, man. And, and I'm so grateful to you. I want to say it back to you because, you know, when I've gone through my tough times, you really get to see who's shows up for you. Especially when they're a newer friend or someone you're just getting to know. And, and when you've stuck by me and, and supported me, not in a, we've never had a relationship where it's not just like, oh, yeah, yeah, we're boys. Like, it's not like that. It's, let's look in the mirror. What work have you got to do? What do you need to work on? What, where are you? What is your role in this? Like, that friendship, I think, is so special. And then feeling support from that. Again, loving your friends through growth, loving yourself through growth, making sure that you know you need to change, but you love someone through that change.

• 1:07:43Jay Shetty?

  Uh, Scooter, we end every interview with the final five, which are the rapid fire, fast five questions. So you have to answer in one word or one sentence maximum.

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  Let's go.

• 1:07:51Jay Shetty?

  I am judging on you if you talk too long this time. And, and I will, and I will ask, I will ask you to expand when I get intrigued. All right. So, starting with your first question, you ready? All right. The first question is, what's the best advice you've ever received?

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  David Geffen told me that, first it's love more, but really, what comes to my mind is David Geffen told me that in a hundred, if you don't know who he is, look him up. He said, in a hundred years, no one's gonna remember me, so they sure as hell won't remember you don't have an ego. And I loved it.

• 1:08:21Jay Shetty?

  That is great piece of advice. All right, second question, what's the worst piece of advice you've ever received?

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  I think as a kid, you're told it's your fault. And you start to believe, oh, I'm a bad kid, I deserve that. And I think that was the wrong advice.

• 1:08:36Jay Shetty?

  Beautiful, man. All right, number three, something that you are pretty sure and confident about, but other people don't quite wrap their head around yet.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  That Bitcoin will eventually be worth 500,000.

• 1:08:50Jay Shetty?

  Ooh, you think it's gonna?

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  I think long term, yes, I believe in Bitcoin long term. And there's a lot of people that don't believe in it, but I believe in Bitcoin long term.

• 1:08:59Jay Shetty?

  Okay, all right. Well, we didn't even talk about that. So now Bitcoin followers, which I don't think I have a lot of, we'll figure it out. All right.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  We didn't talk any business, which is a lot of fun for me. We didn't talk any business, a lot of fun.

• 1:09:11Jay Shetty?

  Because that's not my thing.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  Well, also, and also, look, you know this, 90% of what I do in business, people don't even know, which is the way I like it. So let's keep going.

• 1:09:19Jay Shetty?

  Well, no, for me, it was just, the reason why we didn't talk about business is because when I started the podcast, it was all about what can I talk to people about that no one else can do?

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  It's also, you and I don't have that relationship, nor should we. We have a real relationship. It's not about business, it's about the person in front of you.

• 1:09:35Jay Shetty?

  Totally. And also, just like, you, you're prolific, you can talk about so many different things in so many different places, but this, we're gonna talk about it. Like, you know, this is something you're gonna talk about.

• 1:09:44Speaker 02

  It's also fun for me because you have treated me the way I actually want to treat myself. Like, I told you about the chessboard of raising my head up and saying, hi, nice to meet you, I'm good at this. And I remember one time you called me and you said, hey, I don't want to over ask, but like, we're friends. And, you know, I'm trying to think about investing, if you have any advice ever. And that was great, because I love that. I want to be able to help a friend. And if I'm good at something, I want to be able to offer that. But you've always looked across the table and said, hi, I'm Jay, hi, Scott, Scooter, you know, nice to meet you. Like, let's be friends. And that's why I love this conversation. But sorry, go back to your rapid fire, rapid fire.

• 1:10:19Jay Shetty?

  No, no, no, we got two. Yeah, this is the worst rapid fire.

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Ever. Let's get back to it.

• 1:10:22Jay Shetty?

  All right, last two questions, four and five.

• 1:10:27Jay Shetty?

  Oh, now, now I'm like, I've got two questions left for you. What do I ask you? I know what the fifth one is.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Are you gonna have three more? Because I've done a poor job with the other one.

• 1:10:34Jay Shetty?

  No, no, no, no. You've done a good, no, you've actually given beautiful answers. I, we got distracted at the last one. Number four, something you once chased and no longer care about.

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  Recognition.

• 1:10:46Jay Shetty?

  And fifth and final question, if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  Love more.

• 1:10:54Jay Shetty?

  Beautiful. Scooter Braun, thank you, man.

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  Thank you, my friend.

• 1:10:57Jay Shetty?

  This is so special. This is, this goes down as one of the most beautiful, open conversations.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  Well, let's end it right. Scott Scooter Braun, because now you know all of me, buddy.

• 1:11:04Jay Shetty?

  So now I call you Scott from now on.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  You can call me Scott Scooter, whatever you want, but, but now it's, yeah, all of me is here. I went and did that. And I, I gotta tell you, I'm so grateful we did this, and I'm so grateful for your friendship. And I'm just proud of you as a friend for the message you delivered to the world.

• 1:11:21Jay Shetty?

  Thank you, man. And I'm proud of you for having the courage to always be open and vulnerable and honest and live your truth. And for doing the work when externally you don't need to. You know, that's the hardest part when, when actually, like you said, you could convince yourself to not do the work because things are good.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  If we're breathing, it means we got work to do.

• 1:11:41Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. Thank you, man.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  Thank you. Love you, buddy.

• 1:11:43Jay Shetty?

  That was awesome, man.

• 1:11:51Jay Shetty?

  Let's get real. Most people either don't like their jobs, feel unfulfilled in their jobs, or realize their day jobs are no longer stable. But what's required in a fulfilling career? You need to feel like you're good at what you do and that your job allows you to serve the world through your greater purpose in some capacity. If you feel like you haven't achieved this yet in life, the important thing to remember is that it's never too late. It's never too late to start over and choose to really go after what you're meant to do. Join me on July 1st for my brand new live masterclass, Pursuit of Purpose. We'll discuss the ways in which you can create a career that fulfills your soul and how you can serve the world by living out your values, passions, and purpose.

• 1:12:34Jay Shetty?

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  Digger got us into this mess, and Digger's gonna dig us out. From the director of Birdman and The Ravenette.

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  With great power comes great deniability.

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  I'm not the first nanny.

• 1:14:04Speaker 06

  Digger. See the trailer online. Only in theaters October 2nd. Rated R. Under 17. Not a middle without parent.