Travel Journals

Dear Diary, ohmygosh, you will NOT believe what happened this week on Office Ladies 6.0! Listeners have been writing in asking Jenna and Angela to share their journals on the podcast, so guess what?! They finally did! As the ladies read from their real life journals from spring break trips, it’s equal parts hilarious, sweet, and a little chaotic, and you TOTALLY get why everyone wanted this episode so bad. Plus, the ladies talk about the new Office Ladies 6.0 format and answer a fun fan question about what Pam and Angela’s social media would look like today. More soon! XOXO Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question for Around the Town, Chit Chat, The Paper & Second Drink favorite moment:https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram:OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

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  I'm Jenna Fisher.

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  And I'm Angela Kinsey.

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  We were on The Office together.

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  And we're best friends.

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  And now we're doing the ultimate Office Lovers podcast just for you.

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  Each week, we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind-the-scenes details, and lots of VFF stories.

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  We're the Office Ladies 6.0.

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  Howdy, everybody.

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  Howdy, howdy. We have a really delightful episode today. Can I say that it's delightful? Is that being braggy?

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  I don't think so. And you know what? I don't care because I'm in my 50s. And when you're in your 50s, you get to give zero [BLEEP] and toot your own horn.

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  There you go. Well, toot, toot, toot. I had a really fun time making this episode.

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  Oh, good.

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  So here's what we're doing today. Our show was inspired by two things. Number one, Michael Scott's travel journal from the episode "The Deposition" in season four. And you guys who are listening right in, your suggestions.

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  That's right. We have gotten so many requests over the years to do an episode of Office Ladies where we read from our journals. Specifically Angela's journals.

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  Oh, my.

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  Let me just read a few. This doesn't even scratch the surface. These are just a few. Amanda from Rhode Island said, "Hello, Office Ladies. I have been loving the 6.0 episode so much. I wonder if you could please, please, please," in all caps, "have time for an episode of just Angela's journals," in all caps. Amanda said, "I myself have been journaling since age 12. I am now almost 31 and am completely obsessed with Angela's journals." I beg of you, in all caps, we need more of this in our lives. Much love, Amanda.

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  Amanda, thank you.

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  Yasmin Y. from Dallas, Texas, said, please do an Office Lady 6.0 about the journal entries of Angela and Jenna. It can be broken down into categories like award shows do. We could feature the classics like the bagel, or the one where Angela was sick on the plane in first class.

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  Oh, Lord.

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  And ones we've never heard of. Frey N. from Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, said, more of Angela's journal, please. Jackie K. from Pittsburgh said, I love an Angela journal entry. Bethany P. from Virginia said, I would love to hear all journal entries from Angela's journal and Jenna's journal. Lady, there are seriously more requests. Kenna M. from Utah, Angie F. from St. Louis, Holly B. from Salt Lake City, said, consider this another vote for Angela's journal to be one of your upcoming episodes.

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  Oh, man, no pressure.

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  I mean, I don't even know how many I just read, but there were dozens.

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  Thank you, everybody.

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  So, everyone, a few weeks ago, we were talking about some family trips we had coming up for spring break, and I said, and why don't we journal about our travels and then share them on the pod?

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  And you guys know how much I love a travel journal, so we did just that. We both journaled about our travels. We're going to share them with you today.

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  But before we get to our journals, we also wanted to share with you about the new format for our show.

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  Yes.

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  I know some of you have been wondering what exactly our show is now that we're done with the official, the Office rewatch, chapter of the podcast. And, well, so were we.

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  Yeah. You may have noticed, we've been trying a few different things, but we think we figured it out.

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  Yes. So, over the past few months, we've been tinkering, and we decided to create a new structure using some of our favorite things. They're things that you've told us you love.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  So here's how we're going to structure our Wednesday 6.0 episodes. We're gonna start with a chit chat. We've already been doing this. We love it.

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  Love it.

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  We get our suggestions from you and we love them. And then, at the end of each episode, we are gonna feature Around the Town and an Office Question of the Week.

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  And the Around the Towns are gonna be a mix, you guys, of the digital messages you send in, plus some of the old fashioned post office mail we get. And then, of course, our Office Question of the Week is our chance to answer any Office-related questions you might still have for us.

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  So now that brings us to the middle.

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  Yeah, what is the middle?

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  The meat, the protein. The middle of the episodes are going to be a mix of different things, like interviews with Office cast and crew, writers, directors, or maybe even famous fans of The Office. We've got one of those coming up.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  Or sometimes just someone we find inspiring. We might invite someone to play Two Truths and a Lie. Maybe we'll do a deep dive into something that interests us, or explore a fan theory about a moment from The Office. Basically, the middle of the episode is our chance to mix it up. It's our chance to have fun and be creative.

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  Exactly. And we're still planning to do more of our All About the Office character episodes. And also, we love a good movie breakdown, y'all. So, we're gonna do those a few times a year, too. And we especially love getting suggestions for episodes from you guys. So, please write to us. I know I've said it a gazillion times, but one of the things we cherish the most about Office, ladies, truly, is this amazing community. You guys, we love you.

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  We do. We love this community and we love working together. So, we hope you will stick with us as we move into featuring episodes that might be more Office-adjacent than Office-centered. Like today, this episode today is inspired by something you've told us you want to hear more of, Angela's journals.

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  And listen, for those of you who just want straight up The Office, you're just like, ladies, I just want to hear about The Office, our whole entire rewatch library will always be there for you. It's on every Monday. We are going in order. All of the seasons will be featured in our Monday second drinks. And you know, second drinks means that's new fun stuff at the top.

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  All right, so let's get started with this episode. We are starting with our chit-chat suggestion.

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  Here it is. It's from Alex S. from Canada, who said, "Hi, ladies. I love your podcast. I think you should discuss your journals for a chit-chat. I'd love to know everything about your journaling style. Do you use stickers or stencils? Have you ever tried bullet journaling or junk journaling? Where do you store them? Where do you store your supplies? Do you have a special pen you like? As a lover of The Office and your podcast, I was delighted to find you ladies also love to journal. I love when you read your journal entries as well. Maybe you could do a deep dive on journaling. Thanks so much, ladies. Lots of love from Canada."

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  Oh, Alex, I love this question. One, I love that it aligns with our episode today because you know I love that.

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  That was a great find.

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  It was. But also, I do have very specific journal habits. Do you, Angela?

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  Well, you might be surprised or not surprised. I don't have any specific journal habits. I'm pretty free-form. I guess if you could say anything, I'm sort of observational, you know?

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  Sure. You have a point of view.

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  Yes, yes. But what about you, Jenna, if you have these specific habits? What are they?

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  Well, first of all, yes, Alex, I have a specific pen I like to use, or a specific type of pen. I like rollerball ink pens.

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  Okay.

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  And I get grumpy when I have to journal with any other pen.

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  Okay. I will say, I don't like to journal with any pen that smudges and then gets on my hand.

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  Same.

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  Okay.

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  I also have multiple journals, and they have categories.

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  Ooh.

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  So some of them I write in with pen and some are typed. I'll explain. First of all, I have a creative journal. This is where I write down quotes from books that I feel like might inspire me in the future. If I'm working on a creative project, like maybe for a character I'm playing or something.

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  Oh, that's so you, and I just love it.

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  But I'll also have an observation and it'll go in my creative journal. Like this morning, I set my to-go coffee on the hood of my car. And then when I got in my car, I had to open my door and get it because I'd forgotten it. And it was a little too far for me to reach, but I could reach it.

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  Did you spill it?

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  No, I didn't spill it. But what I thought was, oh, my God, if I ever have to play a character who puts her coffee on her hood, I should put it a little too far because it's more realistic that you have to reach for it. I'm going to make a note of that. I'll put that in my creative journal and I'll unpack that sometime. So if you ever see me in a movie, reaching for a coffee on the hood of my car, you'll know where it came from.

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  This is very much like sort of the artist in you.

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  Oh, my goodness. Well, anyway, so that's a pen and paper journal. I also have a personal journal. That's where I try to process like life stuff.

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  Yeah.

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  That's also pen and paper. For that journal, I love a prompt. There's a lot that you can find on the internet. So sometimes I'll look up a prompt and I'll use that for my personal journal. But I also have a journal for each of my kids. And I keep those on my computer. And I go to it from time to time and I just write about them. It's something that I want to give them when they're older. And I'm really glad I did this because when I scroll back to an entry from when they were like wee little, I will have recorded some funny phrase they said or like the name of their treasured stuffed animal at the time. And it's stuff that you think you will never forget, but I had actually forgotten.

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  You do, though, you do, you forget.

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  Yes, and I so wish that I had written even more. But I'm grateful that I did it at all. And I'm always backing it up and printing it out and making sure that it doesn't get lost. You know, that's like my one anxiety about that journal. But then I also have a separate travel journal, which is also on my computer. And I love making photo albums of our travels. And then I include the travel journal in the photo album. So, yes, I have a lot of journals and a lot of habits and organization for my journals, Alex.

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  Well, I guess I wasn't really thinking about some of the other things that I sort of document. But I had a journal given to me as a gift. This is a great gift, by the way, if you have a friend or family member who's having a baby. I was given a journal and it was like quote of the day from your kid.

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  Oh, yeah. One line a day journal.

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  Yes.

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  Yeah.

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  And I went in and wrote all these fun things and I still have that. And Isabel and I just love it. We go back through it from time to time. And then actually I did this thing, lady, because you know, I have all my digital clutter. I would send a weekly update to my mom and dad about what Isabel was up to with a little picture. So I went and I compiled all of those emails and I have them like on a folder on my laptop. That is all these snapshots of her life.

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  That is such a great idea. I want to go through my digital clutter. I'm not as good at keeping digital clutter as you. I bet I could pull some even more stories to add to it.

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  Yeah. And what was really special for me is, you know, since my dad has passed, were his responses.

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  Sure.

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  You know?

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  Yeah.

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  So that's really special. And, you know, when I was younger, when I was single, like college age and in my twenties, I would keep a journal on my nightstand. And like I had a top drawer, you know, like on my nightstand and I would write in it in the evening. It would be kind of part of like just a little bit about my day. And I haven't done that for years.

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  Well, you know why, I bet. I think that's what phones have robbed us of.

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  Oh, right.

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  Because I used to do that, too.

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  And now I like

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  Scroll.

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  Scroll, see what's happening today. Because I don't check my phone throughout the day, but at night, sometimes I'm like, well, what happened today?

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  Exactly.

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  Yeah, you're so right. Well, you know, Alex, I also loved your chit chat suggestion because it got me curious. I didn't know what junk journaling was. I'd never heard the term. And I guess it's a type of journal one that you craft from recycled, found or discarded materials. So it looks like this old book in a way. And then I found this amazing, wonderful website called artjournalist.com. It's made me want to journal even more. I mean, the person that created it gives you prompts, lady. There's prompts for so many different types of journaling, art journaling, photo journaling. And we both do scrapbooks, so I do think that's a type of photo journaling.

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  A hundred percent.

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  But then they have prompts for holidays, lady, like Thanksgiving or one word prompts. And she has a whole section for prompts for travel journaling.

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  Well, Angela Yasmin suggested.

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  That we revisit this journal idea with different prompts. We totally could.

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  Well, let's see how today goes.

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  All right. Well, I love any excuse to start a new journal. And one other thing, dare I say, I think this podcast is a kind of journal.

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  Oh, it is.

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  Especially as we did the rewatch.

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  It's an oral journal.

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  Yes.

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  Of our memories.

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  Or as you say, sometimes we journal out loud to one another.

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  I do.

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  We find things, we process things through our messages to one another.

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  Yeah.

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  All right. Well, listen, everyone, why don't we take a break? And then it is time for us to share our travel journals.

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  And I think we'll have to hear Michael Scott's journal, too.

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  Oh, it's the best.

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  Okay, we are back. And before we dive into our travel journals, it is time for Michael's. It's from the deposition, you guys. It's just one of our favorite moments. Jan's lawyer is going to read from Michael Scott's journal. Let's hear it.

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  We'd like to enter into the record a page from Michael Scott's personal journal.

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  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing with my diary?

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  This is plaintiff's exhibit 107. I quote from an entry dated January 4 of this past year. Just got back from Jamaica. Tan almost everywhere. Jan almost everywhere. Hee hee. Oh, diary, what a week. I had sex with my boss. I don't know if it's going to go anywhere. Jan was very specific that this is not going anywhere, that it was a one-time mistake. But we had sex six times, so you tell me. I am definitely feeling very eerie.

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  Iri.

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  Iri, sorry. More tomorrow. XOXO, Michael.

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  Amazing.

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  It's so good. It just makes me laugh because I talk to my journal the same way.

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  I know you do.

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  And I did it before Michael Scott did it, you guys.

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  All right, is this the time where we share our travel journals?

• 15:16Speaker 00

  I think so. And lady, I believe you should go first because you're the one that everyone wants to hear.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  Oh, gosh. Okay, no pressure. Well, you guys, it's nothing special. It's just me traveling. Okay?

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  All right.

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  Okay, this is just.

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  Sam and I are so excited right now. And Matt, this is gonna be your first time hearing an Angela travel journal. I'm excited for you.

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  I can't wait.

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  I feel such pressure. Here we go. Okay.

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  I titled it travel journal.

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  It's a good title for it.

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  Oh, wait, first, you guys, I want to just share with you that my trip was multiple flights as we did college tours. Okay?

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  Yes.

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  So multiple destinations over spring break, but it started with me going to Texas to see my family. All right. So I just feel like you need to know what my trip was. And here we go. Monday, March 23rd, 2:37 PM.

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  First of all, I just love that I know what time it is. I love it so much that you put the time every time.

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  LAX to Dallas-Fort Worth, American Airlines.

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  These are book reports. This is how these start.

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  Here we go. It's been a while since I've journaled on a plane. But Jenna suggested we do travel journals since we are both taking trips over spring break. Old me would explain to you that I do a rewatch podcast called Office Ladies with my BFF Jenna. Jenna Fisher. We're on a TV show together called The Office.

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  So I'm heading to Texas to see my mom and sisters. I'm traveling alone and then I'll meet up with Josh and the kids in Colorado to start some college tours. I like to take a few trips a year to see my mom by myself. I love having that one-on-one time with her, separate from big family gatherings and holidays, et cetera. You get it.

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  Your journal is like, I gotcha.

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  Yeah, we got it.

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  Okay. I think travel journaling is my favorite type of journaling. Maybe because at home, I get lost in chores and school activities and work, and it's hard to find time to just sit and be still and write. But maybe also it's because I love travel and being a spectator to new places and people. I love people watching. I also love just people. I love meeting new people, talking to new people. I find people fascinating. So here goes. Dot, dot, dot. The couple next to me have on matching T-shirts. Hers says Belle, his says Beast. Do we think they went on vacation to Disneyland and are now flying home? I think yes. Exclamation point. Took a nap at takeoff. I have a meal update.

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  I got the pita chips and what I thought was hummus was not hummus. No idea what it is, but I'm eating it. Maybe some type of cream cheese dip? Bought a full flight Wi-Fi for $19. Then it went out. Exclamation point. Pilot came on and said the satellite they use for Wi-Fi had switched its orbit. WTF. He said it takes a while to reset to the new orbit. Mm-kay.

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  Are we gonna have time for like the rest of? We're still on the plane. Yeah, I know. That's what I mean.

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  I'll speed it up, guys.

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  No, don't.

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  Hey, don't you skip out.

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  There is free entertainment. Just pick the movie Divergent. Oh, my God, I want to break this down on the podcast. I have so many questions and need to discuss. Also, the man next to me seems nice, but he isn't chatty. He ordered a Heineken. He's sleeping now. He got some cheese plate snack. It looked good. I wish I could have had some. He did not get the mystery dip. Friday, March 27, 2:45 PM. Dallas to Los Angeles, American Airlines Flight 1744.

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  Wait, we're already on another plane?

• 19:06Speaker 01

  You guys, I just travel journaled, so all my entries are from the airport. Should I have said that?

• 19:11Speaker 04

  Yes. Yes, you should lead with that.

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  I just went from flight to flight.

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  Okay, I'm gonna talk about my trip on the next entry.

• 19:18Speaker 00

  Okay, so where you journal is the airplanes.

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  Our airport.

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  Got it.

• 19:23Speaker 04

  Do you speak about more things than the planes?

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Yes, okay.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Okay, good.

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  Ready? I had such a great visit with my mom. Each evening I was home, we sat on the front porch with my sisters and my niece and her new little baby girl, and we watched the sunset and just visited. One day, mom and I went driving around our little town of 1,800 people, and she just pointed out different things, like who got a new carport, or who's moved, or how this young couple from church is looking to buy their first house, and maybe the fixer-upper by the elementary school. Or what's happening at the feed store, and who's building out by the Dairy Queen. You know, stuff like that. I hung on her every word.

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  I loved that. Okay, that was beautiful.

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  Thank you. Monday, March 30th, 9:00 a.m., LAX to Denver. Now flying with my daughter to meet up with Josh and the boys in Colorado. I'm kind of obsessed with people's travel outfits. Like, today, there's the purple lady. Purple carry-on, purple tie-dye t-shirt, she's holding a purple Stanley mug. And then there's the hat ladies. They're in a group, and they're all wearing the sort of straw-type of cowboy hats with ribbons. Who are these ladies? Where are they going? What are they celebrating? I think they're in their 50s. They clearly are having some type of themed vacay. I so want to go up to them and say, "Tell me everything."

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  Still waiting for our flight. Ugh. It was delayed because of some gate issue. At a food court, I just paid $6.34 for a small bottle of water. I'm really bummed I forgot to bring my own water bottle. And a guy in front of me ordered a lobster sandwich. Why? I mean, seriously, why would you order a lobster sandwich at an airport? Big nope from me.

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  It's these moments where you're like breaking the fourth wall for me. We're like, "Ugh," right? Everyone who's reading your journal at once, we're all frustrated.

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  You're all frustrated.

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  I love all the observations. Like, I truly love them. It's very, very good.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Okay, well, there's one more from this entry. Okay. "On our flight, there's a man across the aisle with long, stringy hair, like crazy long, but he doesn't have much of it. Like, it's super thin. He has it pulled back into the saddest ponytail. I'm looking at the pen I'm writing with, and his ponytail is about the same width. Bless his heart."

• 21:40Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  I got a groan from Matt. Wednesday, April 1st, 2:59 PM, flying from Denver to Seattle on United. Our college tours are going well. We had a great time with Josh's family in Colorado. We're waiting for our flight to Seattle to go tour the University of Washington. Josh is super excited because it's supposed to be overcast with a chance of rain there, his favorite kind of weather. Hold up. Oh, my God. Right now, they are paging a passenger over the intercom at the Denver airport. Y'all, this is amazing. They are saying paging Idris Albi. Passenger Idris Albi. I mean, come on. I need Idris Albi and Idris Elba to meet just

• 22:27Speaker 01

  once, am I right? Now, on our flight. So on United, you get a choice of three snack boxes. They are $10. Here are your options. The Tappas Box: hummus, pita chips, bruschetta dip, rosemary crackers, green olives and almonds. The Takeoff Box: salami, garlic and herb crustini, Gouda cheese spread, crackers, fig spread, almonds, hazelnut wafer. The Recline Box: potato chips, beef and pork stick, fruit, gummy bears, Oreo cookies, almonds. Guess what I picked? Anyone? The hummus one again? I got the Tappas Box. It was delicious. Also, just a heads up, this United flight offered saignol blanc and not Chardonnay. Yas.

• 23:10Speaker 01

  Okay, here we go. Last entry, everybody. Friday, April 3rd, 11:35 AM, Seattle to San Francisco. Waiting for our flight, the man next to me is talking loudly on speakerphone. He's excitedly talking to someone named Claire. He keeps saying, "Oh, Claire," and then laughing. I [BLEEP] you not. When he hangs up the phone, which I hope is soon, I want to say, "So, Claire and you still a thing, huh?"

• 23:40Speaker 01

  Anyway, where was I? Oh, Seattle was amazing. First of all-

• 23:43Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, wait. Is "anyway, where was I?" Something you just said? Or did you write that down?

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  I wrote that.

• 23:49Speaker 00

  I thought so.

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  Because I think I'm talking to someone.

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  Okay. Anyway, where was I?

• 23:54Speaker 01

  I'm ridiculous.

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  Amazing.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Anyway, where was I? Oh, Seattle was amazing. First of all, it was cherry blossom season and there were rows and rows of trees blooming. We walked under this pink canopy, just gorgeous. And hands down, our favorite thing we did as a family on this trip was a floating sauna. We stayed at the Woodmark Hotel, which I kept calling the Woodward and annoying you, Josh. It's right on Lake Washington. Thanks to Joel McHale for the recommendation. We loved it. Okay, our first day there, we went for a walk and saw these people coming out of what looked like a little house on the water. And then they ran down this long pier and jumped into the lake and howled and laughed. Josh said, whatever that is, we gotta do it. Turns out, you can go into these little tiny floating saunas and do a cold plunge right off the dock. They have a ladder and everything to climb back

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  out of the water. It was called Von Sauna, and we did the quote "social sauna," where you just book your seat and you get an hour. So our family was paired with a couple celebrating a birthday. But I guess if you want to get fancy, you can rent the whole thing out as a private sauna experience. But the couple we met was lovely, and so save your money and go for the cheaper social sauna experience. And then I wrote, "And Jenna, I know I'll read this to you, but I thought about you the whole time. You would have loved this. I wasn't sure if I had the courage to do the plunge because I hate being cold. It's a thing anyone who knows me knows about me. My sister Janet once bought me a sweatshirt that said 'I'm cold' on it. But I did it. It was overcast and raining off and on, and

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  in the mid-50s outside. But we went to that little sauna, and by the time we came out of there, we were so hot, and we ran down the pier and we jumped in. The whole family did it. And I asked a guy who worked there what the temperature of Lake Washington was. He said probably around 46 degrees."

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  OMG! Wow!

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  I'm glad I didn't know that before I jumped in, but honestly, it felt so refreshing and invigorating. We all ran back to the sauna, and then we did it all over again.

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  Lady- Can I say something about your journal? It is very clear to me why you love David Sedaris. Because your writing reminds me of his writing.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Oh, well, that's a huge compliment.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  That's very true. I never noticed that.

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  Yes, it's true. Just all of the little slice of life details. But then you'll hit me with like, watching the sunset with your mom and sisters and like other details that just like, oh, they just tug at my heartstrings. It's such a wonderful experience.

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  And the way it's written, the bless your heart on the tail end of the ponytail thing was like a perfect David Sedaris level button to like go to a next chapter.

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  I didn't mean to be snarky to that man, but I just was like, what's the point? That little rubber band is not holding much, but he needed it. He needed that ponytail. Yes. So, anyway, that was my travel journal.

• 26:41Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  Sorry, Matt.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  I loved it. And also, I'm going to Seattle and I'm definitely going to do that sauna this summer.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  Oh, you have to. I'll share the link in stories, but I'll send it to you. It was great. It was not expensive. I would do it again.

• 26:56Speaker 05

  It looked amazing.

• 26:57Speaker 04

  Jenna, how much of your journals are about snacks?

• 26:59Speaker 00

  I actually have quite a bit of food in my journal, actually.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  Oh, I can't wait.

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  I mean, you guys have never heard me read a travel journal.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  No, I'm so excited to know this part of you, lady.

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  I hope you guys like it. It has a few Angela qualities, I think. We're not that different. I don't know what you'll think.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  Oh, it's gonna be great.

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  I feel shy. Should I start?

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Please.

• 27:24Speaker 00

  I also titled my journal, Travel Journal.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

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  And I said, hello from Tokyo. Specifically from the Imperial Hotel in Tokyo, which is the greatest hotel in the whole world for so many reasons. First, the location is great. The beds are firm, the pillows are soft. They have these blackout shades that overlap when you close them, so there are no gaps.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Ooh.

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  These are the things that I appreciate in a hotel. There is a clock in the bathroom. Thank you. Also pajamas. They lay out pajamas each night and they have an amazing shower gel. I was gonna ride on the airplane, but instead I read my book, which I am loving, The Poisonwood Bible, and I watched The Running Man, which is still kind of haunting me days later. And, once we got here, we hit the ground running. This is probably our most ambitious travel itinerary, and I'm really impressed with how the kids have jumped in. Our first day, we toured around for 11 hours straight.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Wow.

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  I had a little time this morning, so here we go. First of all, the thing I'm looking most forward to about this trip is being stuck all together as a family of four for two solid weeks. No work, no friends, nothing but the four of us. I'm also so excited that I don't have to manage our family calendar. For two weeks, we will all be doing the same thing all together every day. I'm excited for our actual vacation, and also excited that I don't have to figure out how to get everyone to all their different activities every day. It's one calendar, one plan. I think Lee is excited he doesn't have to cook any food. He does breakfast for everyone each morning, and I'm currently watching him sip coffee and look out the window at the Tokyo skyline, and I can tell he's so

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  happy, he doesn't have to take anyone's breakfast order. Also, I am most comfortable in my little family unit. I don't get social anxiety, I feel really safe.

• 29:22Speaker 01

  Aw.

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  Two weeks of immersing in this part of my life is heaven.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Oh, that's so truly you, lady.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was very, um, was it the scientific method that you learn in school? Where it's like, observation, ask a question, research, form a hypothesis, conduct an experiment, analyze, draw conclusions, and then communicate results?

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  That's my journaling style?

• 29:44Speaker 04

  Yes, it's perfectly to a T. This is where I was, this is where I went, this is what I saw.

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  Like, oh, I say. It's only our second day here, and we have already been laughing a lot and making inside jokes and family memories. Ak, I just love it. It was a little brutal our first night. We didn't sleep on the plane, but we arrived at 7:00 PM and just had to stay awake for a few hours. We did it. People were a little short tempered that first day. We spent a lot of time figuring out how to buy a train ticket to see this giant Buddha. When you are jet lagged, it makes machines even harder to understand. Me, Leigh and Weston were able to use this app on our phone, but it wouldn't let Harper use it because she's under 13. So we had to get her a physical ticket or card every time we rode the train. That was a whole thing.

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  The train ride to the Buddha was long, and the Buddha was fine, but maybe not worth two hours there and two hours back on a train. Sorry, giant Buddha. We did enjoy the little town and had a pretty cool lunch.

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  This is something that would also be great on TripAdvisor.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is perfect.

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  Okay. Everyone is in a good mood today after a good night's sleep and a great breakfast buffet. I'm not sure it gets better than a breakfast buffet on vacation. Something that has already surprised me is just how darn good the pineapple is in Japan. I looked it up and I read that 90% of Japan's pineapples are grown in Okinawa and that, yes, they are really sweet. And I can confirm. Also, Japanese melon, which I can't quite figure out. It's sort of like honeydew melon, but not exactly. It's also really sweet and delicious. The coffee here is good, but they only served us one small cup at breakfast and they didn't come around and ask if we wanted more. And I think it's because maybe the Japanese don't pound coffee like Americans do.

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  Because I remember being in France and their whole thing is like, "One small, great cup of coffee is all you need." And I'm like, "I beg to differ. I'm used to three or four decent cups of coffee." Anyway, this has become a real tangent, but I am fascinated by cultural differences when I travel. Oh, like, for example, there are no trash cans in Japan. They were removed after the subway gas bombing of 1995. So if you acquire any trash in your day, you have to carry it around until you get home. Like, let's say you get a Starbucks. First of all, no one walks around and eats or walks around and drinks in Japan. You can get a food or drink item to go, but you have to just stand to the side and eat or drink.

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  Also, no eating or drinking on the trains. On the bullet train, it's okay, but not on the subway. So let's say you grab a hot can of coffee from 7-Eleven. Because that's another thing. The 7-Elevens have hot cans of coffee.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  There's 7-Elevens?

• 32:33Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Famously 7-Eleven.

• 32:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're huge there.

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  And they have all these snacks and sushi.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, the 7-Eleven, is it egg salad is supposed to be world renowned.

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  You guys, I didn't eat it. Can you believe it? Me, lover of eggs, every day. My son was like, Mom, are you gonna get that egg salad sandwich today? And every time I was like, I just don't feel like eating eggs right now. I was always like full in the moment.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  That's right.

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  And you can't walk and eat, so you have to like wanna eat it right then, you know?

• 33:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  So I can't believe I went all the way to Japan and I didn't eat the egg salad sandwich. But anyway, okay. Back to my journal. There's a whole section that looks like it's refrigerated and filled with cans, but actually they are all hot. So let's say you get a hot can of coffee. You stand and drink it. And when you're done, zero trash cans. You have to carry that can around. You might be thinking, could I throw it away in a public restroom? Because I thought that, I thought there might be a trash can in there. No. Most public restrooms didn't have paper towels or trash bins. They had hand dryers. And if they did have a trash bin, it is not considered polite to throw anything other than feminine products or paper towels in it.

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  So you carry around your trash in a bag, in your purse, in your pocket. I found it sort of fascinating because you really get a sense of how much trash you produce when you're forced to carry it around with you all day. And here's the other thing, the city is spotless. Everyone picks up after themselves. I was actually trying to imagine a Japanese person going to New York City and seeing the city through their eyes, and I shuddered at the thought. And listen, I love New York, but it's so dirty. Okay, I should go. I'll write more later if I'm able.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  Ah ha, you were talking to your journal.

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  I was.

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  I was your friend. Okay, I gotta go.

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  I hope you guys realize both of these fit together like puzzle pieces. If you erase the places that you went, this could be the same story. Yours is all about how you got there with nothing about what you did when you were there.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  I talk about it in hindsight, what I did in places.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  True, but not to the extent of Jenna's.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 34:46Speaker 04

  You didn't mention once how everyone's moods were.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  No, I didn't talk about like other people, like I didn't talk about my family dynamics.

• 34:54Speaker 04

  You see that you fill in each other's stories like that.

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  Maybe this is why we're BFFs.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  I know.

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  This is why our points of view meld so well together into a podcast.

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  We complement each other.

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  We do. I have more.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Please.

• 35:07Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 35:08Speaker 04

  Please, I'm sorry.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  I want you to read the entire thing.

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  Okay, here's the rest of it. Ready? We love Tokyo. We head to Kyoto tomorrow and we kind of wish we had another day here. Lee and I came years ago, just the two of us, and we liked it, but visiting it again, we've fallen in love. One of the things we are discovering is how vertical the city is. You have to get off the ground level. The best stores and restaurants are up. The other night, we ate at a Waigu barbecue place near Ueno Park, and one of the best parts of the meal was riding the elevator to the 11th floor. We stopped at a bunch of floors along the way, and every time the doors opened, they opened into a different restaurant.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  Oh, cool.

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  And you would get this tiny glimpse into a whole new world, a whole vibe with new smells and sounds, and then the doors would shut and take you up to the next spot. I wanted to stop at every floor. One time, the doors opened on a giant fish tank. That's all, just a fish tank. We are still all talking about it days later, and I keep thinking about it. It was like writing in a real life choose your own adventure book. Each stop having the potential to change your destiny.

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  Another highlight of the trip was going to the Tokyo Dome to see the Tokyo Giants play the Tigers. I don't know where the Tigers were from, but I know it was the Giants versus the Tigers, and this is a big rivalry. We got to the game and bought some Giants hats, and we're all so excited, and then we realized we were sitting in the Tigers section.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Oh, no!

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  So it was kind of hilarious, because they have dedicated sections for fans, and they have all these chants they do during the game. It reminded me of the chants at the LAFC soccer games. Just constant chanting, but so fun. There is a small theme park surrounding the Dome. It is smaller than Six Flags or Disneyland, but they do have a log flume ride and one of those big swinging pirate ships. And it has one of the tallest continuous roller coasters in the world, currently ranked number 10. Lee went on it with Harper.

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  Ooh!

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  They loved it. They said the initial drop was insane. And of course, there was a place with the gazillion crane machines. We spent a lot of yen trying to win a plushie, but went home empty-handed. Maybe the coolest thing we did in Tokyo was our Shibuya food tour. We had a local guide take us through the underground food stalls of the food show beneath Shibuya train station. He explained that all of the food stalls were pop-up versions of some of the best restaurants from the best chefs in Tokyo. There was a place selling bento boxes made by a three-star Michelin chef. Our first stop was a six-stool ramen place that had been voted best chicken ramen in Tokyo for several years in a row.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  You're making me so hungry.

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  Also, you're describing a place I've always wanted to go to. I know exactly what you're referencing right now.

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  Um, Sam, it was amazing. That's the next line in my journal, and it was amazing.

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  Sam, it was amazing.

• 38:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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  They served the ramen with a slice of lemon, and we were told to squeeze the lemon into the bowl about halfway through as a way to change the flavor complexity of the broth. Afterward, our guide walked us through the supermarket attached to the food stalls. He showed us these fancy cantaloupes that cost around $70 or $80.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  Whoa!

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  He said- The Japanese give fruit as a gift. And the nicer looking the fruit, the higher the price, even though they taste the same. With the cantaloupe, the deeper the grooves, the more expensive. He also said, if someone is in the hospital, you give fruit or cut flowers, but never planted flowers or anything with roots, because that implies you want them to put down roots in their illness.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  In the hospital? Oh.

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  We ended with a trip to a tempanyaki restaurant. We were the only tourists there. No one spoke English, no English menu. So it's a good thing we were with him. I feel like we would have been too intimidated to go to this restaurant otherwise. He ordered all the food and it was seriously all amazing. My favorite were the meat stuffed green peppers, the fried ginger root, and the chicken thighs. We are so sad to leave Tokyo. We wanted to ride more elevators and see what the doors opened on to. I really wish I could have explored more of the Shibuya and the food market. I wanted to buy one of those bento boxes to eat on the train tomorrow, but they made it very clear you had to eat it the same day. Maybe one day. I am excited to get out into nature a bit, and we have fun stuff planned for Kyoto.

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  We are gonna make pottery with a local artist, and then he fires the pieces and sends them back home to us. I can't wait. This has already been an incredible trip, and we are making great memories.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Oh, I love that lady.

• 39:48Speaker 00

  And guys, I have to tell you, when it was time for us to fly home, our flight was delayed by five hours, so we got to spend extra time in Tokyo. We went back to the Shibuya food show, and I got that bento box.

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  Good.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  Yay.

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  And it was so good. And they're not expensive. That's part of the thing about these food stalls.

• 40:11Speaker 04

  That was one of Anthony Bourdain's favorite spots.

• 40:13Speaker 00

  Really?

• 40:14Speaker 04

  That's why I know about it. Yeah, he raves about it.

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  I mean, I never wanted to leave. They also had this crazy thing. They have lockers. So like, if in the morning you want to go shopping and buy stuff, you can put it in the locker and they are refrigerated.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  Oh, nice.

• 40:30Speaker 00

  They have refrigerated lockers. And they have a little section where you can like warm stuff up in a microwave and eat it.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  That's incredible.

• 40:36Speaker 00

  Amazing.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  So smart. Well, Jenna, I loved your journal and it's like a combination of like a TripAdvisor and like just wonderful, specific details, but then just hearing your heart being so happy with your family. I loved it.

• 40:52Speaker 00

  Aw, thank you. Well, I love your journaling. I truly love it. And not that we need to justify the importance of journals, but we did get two letters and I want to share them with you, Angela, because they really touched my heart and they are about your journaling. Kaylee W. from Sarasota Springs, New York, said, "I started listening to your podcast in 2022 when my daughter was born and I was up all night breastfeeding and pumping. You ladies kept me company through the long nights and I am forever grateful for that. Fast forward, my daughter's almost three and she's had a tough time falling asleep lately, so I have been popping in an AirPod and listening to old episodes. Last night I was

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  listening to episode 139, "Cresting," and I knew I had to write in. I was laying in bed trying to be so quiet, waiting for my daughter to settle, when Angela started reading her journal entries. I burst into laughter and had to get it under control so fast. I legitimately felt like I was going to cry from trying to stifle my laugh. And I wanted to write you both for a couple of reasons. My husband and I recently started talking about how we find our daughter so unique, funny, and passionate, and we don't want her to ever lose that sense of herself. But no, it often happens when kids start school. Personally, I can never even reread my old journal entries because I feel too

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  embarrassed. Hearing you do it on such a public platform, this choked me up, Angela, because this is true. Kaylee said, "Hearing you do it on such a public platform made me stop and think about how I hope my daughter is that confident in herself. And I am going to do my best to instill that in her." Because it's true. That is you giving us your whole self. And that takes a lot of courage and it takes a lot of confidence. And I love that Kaylee pointed that out.

• 42:56Speaker 01

  Oh, Kaylee, thank you so much.

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  All right, here's one more. Andy D. from Georgia said, hello. I want to say I know Angela gets a lot of grief for her journal entries, but those kind of documents are things that historians love because they document in detail normal life activities that are difficult to get just from general historical records. If, when, the zombie apocalypse that Jenna is always prepping for happens, the people putting humanity back together are going to be thrilled to find Angela's journals.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

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  I love you guys very much. Thank you for all you do.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  That's so sweet. Thank you for writing in, both of you guys. That's very funny to think about. I'm like picturing a whole new civilization. Like whenever they see a tiny ponytail saying bless their heart. Because they think-

• 43:53Speaker 00

  They'll think that's what you're supposed to do.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  You're supposed to do.

• 43:56Speaker 00

  Well, should we take a break? And then when we come back, we will do our Around the Town and Office Question of the Week.

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  All right.

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  All right, we are back. And our first Around the Town comes all the way from Lewis, England. Loic T. writes and says, hi, Office ladies. I've been a listener since day one and have enjoyed every episode since. I thought I'd let you know about one of the biggest sources of pride from our small town in East Sussex, Lewis.

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  The local ladies' football team, I believe you may call them a soccer team. In 2017, Lewis FC became the first football club in the entire world to pay the women's team the same as the men's.

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  Woo-hoo!

• 44:49Speaker 01

  The investment, of course, paid off as they rose up to championship level in 2018. I'd also like to shout out the Pies and Pints from local brewery Harvey's, founded in 1790, at their grounds, the dripping pan, which makes for a fabulous weekend outing. Keep up the good work. Loic.

• 45:08Speaker 00

  All right. That's pretty darn cool.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  I know. I'm just getting more and more hungry, too, because now I want pies and pints and I want everything you've talked about.

• 45:16Speaker 00

  Uh-oh. My around-the-town has food in it.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Does it really?

• 45:20Speaker 00

  Yes. Paige R. from Richmond, Virginia, said, "This month, the Richmond Flying Squirrels baseball team will start their 2026 season in their brand-new stadium, which was built in the parking lot of the old stadium. Tragic news, however, is that the infamous Big Dill Dog, a hot dog stuffed inside of a whole dill pickle, will not be served at the new stadium, and people are not OK with this. It's me, I'm the people. In unrelated news, I will be purchasing a Costco-sized jar of dill pickles this summer and many hot dogs."

• 45:55Speaker 01

  They put a hot dog inside a pickle? Oh, I would love to try that.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  Yeah?

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  Do you put relish on your hot dogs, anyway?

• 46:03Speaker 01

  I don't, but I love pickles.

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  Because I like my hot dog with mustard and relish, although I did really like the Chicago dog, and they put all kinds of stuff on that.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  I would try it. OK. So our next around-the-town is from our snail mail. I guess that's what we'll call the post office mail.

• 46:22Speaker 00

  Yes.

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  And I would like to congratulate Becky G. and her husband Matt from Perrigold, Arkansas, there, who sent this in. They were married last year, and Becky sent us a wedding invite with a lovely letter, and I'm going to share some of it now. Becky said, "As a police dispatcher for a small agency, I have some long bits of downtime. That time has awarded me the chance to listen to your podcast multiple times and read through the Office BFFs book." She goes on to say, "I've lost count of the number of times I've gone home and I'd recount my day to Matt and end up saying, 'Oh, the lady said this about that.'" "I was super stoked to discover you ladies doing this podcast and continue to share your life with us. Thank you for that. I know you guys can't possibly make it to our reception, but just know you ladies are

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  with me as I walk down the aisle at our elopement chapel to the mashup of Canon and D and the Office theme song. Thank you for being you. Love, Becky."

• 47:18Speaker 00

  Oh, congratulations Becky and Matt.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  And you know, lady, we get so many wedding invites and I think lady and I are around the towns, we could have an opportunity every once in a while to give a shout out to a happy couple.

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  I love that. All right, next up is Demi or Demi S. from Homewood, Alabama, who says, "Hey ladies, over the course of the past few weeks, pink tutus have been popping up on trees, statues in parks and city centers, and pretty much anything that can be tutu'd. No one has figured out who is doing the tutu-ing. A sneaky nighttime artist perhaps, but it has certainly brought a lot of joy to Birmingham residents and a smile to my face every time I see a new tutu. We are hoping that their next target is Vulcan, a giant iron statue whose bare butt faces Homewood."

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Oh my goodness.

• 48:11Speaker 00

  Maybe they think he could use some modesty.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  Hmm, is this a job for mom detectives? Road trip to Alabama.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  All right, and now it's time for our Office Question of the Week. It's from Jasmine D. from Montreal, Canada, and she sent in an audio clip.

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  Hi, Office ladies. My question for you is, what do you think Pam and Angela's social medias would look like? Do you think they would have social media at all? If they did, what kinds of things would they post about? Would they post often? What kinds of things would show up on their feeds? Thank you for all the great laughs, both on The Office, on Office Ladies, and on all of your other great projects that you've worked on over the years. Thanks.

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  I love it. Loved thinking about this.

• 48:54Speaker 01

  Me too. It made it so fun to just let the show age up into modern times in my brain.

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  Yes. And I had two very specific, immediate thoughts about this.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Okay, I had one as well. You go first.

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  I think Pam definitely has a private Instagram. Because I think she posts a lot of pictures of her kids. But you have to know her in order for her to give you that access. I just felt like she was that kind of person. But since they're living somewhere other than where I think we presume her mom and dad are living, Jim's family is living. This is how people are going to get access to kind of like their little everyday moments of the kids. So I think there is a private Instagram account with all that stuff on it. But then I think she has a public account for her art. Because I think she's been doing more stuff. I think she's been painting more nurseries. I think she's been doing murals.

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  I think she's gotten into the graphic design. I think she kind of learned some stuff. So I really think that's taken off for her. And so she has this way that she gets her artwork out to people.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  I love that. Okay, well, here's what I think. I think Angela Martin runs the social media accounts for Shrewd Farms.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh, yes, she does.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  Uh huh. Because they have the bed and breakfast and who knows what else they like harvest and sell for the farm. But I think she runs it. And I think privately she has like some type of Instagram account, but it's private. But she proudly tells people, I don't have any social media for myself. I only do it for the farm. But then she can then, you know, secretly just like scroll and stuff.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  What do they call that? There's like the person who has an account, but they never post, but that way they can see stuff.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Right. Lurking.

• 50:48Speaker 00

  Lurking? So she's a lurker.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  I think she has a private lurky account, but then she has the public Shrewd Farms account that she does all the sort of Shrewd Farms business posting.

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Does she like respond to negative comments and stuff?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  No, she doesn't like strangers. She doesn't want to engage with people. But I think she's, you know, she's curious and judgy. So it gives her something to just get her going.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  I see. Okay.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:15Speaker 00

  Oh, very fun.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  So fun. What a great question, Jasmina. Thank you so much.

• 51:20Speaker 00

  All right, everyone. There you have it. That is our episode this week, Travel Journals. Let us know if you want to hear more journals and let us know if there's a category you'd like to hear about.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:33Speaker 00

  And next week, we've got a pretty exciting episode for you.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  We do. We have one of the biggest The Office super fans coming back to the podcast.

• 51:43Speaker 00

  Should we say it together?

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:44Speaker 00

  One, two, three. Billie Eilish.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  All right. We'll see you then.

• 51:50Speaker 00

  See ya.

• 51:53Speaker 00

  Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

• 51:56Speaker 01

  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

• 52:01Speaker 00

  Our senior producer is Matt Beagle and our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

• 52:08Speaker 00

  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schulz.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.