Second Drink: The Lover

This week we’re breaking down “The Lover”. Jim and Pam return from their honeymoon and discover that Michael is dating Pam’s mom, Helene. Let’s just say, Pam is not ok with it. Meanwhile Dwight spies on Jim with a deceptive spy trick that involves a wooden mallard. Jenna talks about how playing super angry Pam was a challenge, Angela unveils a deleted scene where Michael plays with Helene’s socks, and the ladies have a much needed “BFF download”. This episode is so good, we guarantee it’s much better than the eight hours of tape Dwight has of Jim talking about paper. Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

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  Hello, everyone. Welcome back to our second drink of The Lover. I'm going to kick us off, lady. We got this from Matt S. and Nellie M. They both noted this scene as their favorite from the episode. It's that moment Pam finds out Michael is dating her mom.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. We described it in our breakdown, but you know, I really think we should hear it because it starts with Jim and Bam giving Michael a bottle of rum from their honeymoon, and then, oh my gosh, it's off to the races.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. That is amazing. I feel like a real Puerto Rican.

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  Michael, you're all set at Botticelli's. I changed the reservation to two people.

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  Here, look.

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  Fun.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Wow, Botticelli's. That sounds like a special occasion.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, it's nobody.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think Michael has a date.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Hmm, no.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  I think you have a date.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  I don't. I don't.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 3:10Speaker 04

  I think we should just drop it because obviously he doesn't want to talk about it.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  I don't deserve this, guys.

• 3:16Speaker 04

  Yes, you do.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 3:17Speaker 04

  Just take the parrot.

• 3:20Speaker 04

  Okay, back to the old grind.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  I was probably going to break up with her anyway.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Oh, that's too bad.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Pam, it is very complicated. There are a lot of moving parts here.

• 3:29Speaker 04

  Sounds complicated.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I mean, if you really like this person, then you should see where it goes.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  You want me to be happy?

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Part of the problem is she is the mother of a close friend of mine.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  More than a friend, a coworker.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Oh, gossip. Who is it?

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Who is it?

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  Who is it, Michael?

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  Who?

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  It's okay.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No.

• 4:14Speaker 00

  Lady, you should have won an Emmy just for that.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  That is brilliant acting. Like, you just hear, you hear it go through so many stages in her brain. It's so good.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  It's one of my favorite pieces of writing that I was ever handed on this show. I was like, this is going to be so fun to do. And just the way that Steve, as Michael, just keeps like looking, just keeps looking at me, is so amazing, so amazing.

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  One of my favorite parts, and I looked at Sam when we were playing it, and we both started laughing when you go, no, no, no, no, no. It's so good.

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  All right, we got this letter from Caroline K. from Dublin, Ireland. "Hi, office ladies. I've got a question about Pam's name. I missed the second drink for Phyllis's wedding, but thought this was a good one to bring it up. On the invite that Pam holds up to compare it to Phyllis's identically designed one, it has her name as Pamela Jane Beasley. But in The Lover, at about 12 minutes 25 seconds, Michael uses her full name Pamela Morgan Beasley. So I'm curious as to your thoughts on this. Was it a continuity error? Or did you ever learn Pam's full name before? Or was there any decision about how they picked your middle name? Thanks so much."

• 5:37Speaker 01

  All right, this is a crazy catch. I mean, I definitely think of her middle name as Morgan, as Michael says it in this episode. And I'm pretty certain that the wedding programs from the Niagara episodes say Pamela Morgan Beasley. Like, I feel like I have one from the church, and it says Pamela Morgan Beasley. And you know what? I looked for it in my box of stuff because I was like digging around. I couldn't find it. But I'm going to say, if I get to pick, it's Pamela Morgan Beasley.

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  I wonder if there's a picture of it online.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  I looked at the episode to see if I could see any, and I couldn't find it.

• 6:18Speaker 00

  I don't see it, lady.

• 6:20Speaker 01

  On Dunderpedia, they list her full name as Pamela Morgan Beasley as well.

• 6:25Speaker 00

  I think it's Pamela Morgan Beasley. That's what it is in my brain.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, me too. Same. Well, listen, next up, we got a fan mail flurry about Michael's ringtone in this episode. Matt M. from New Jersey, who, by the way, might be related to Dwight, wrote in to say, "For your season six second drink, colon, false. At 12 minutes and 4 seconds, you told us that Michael's ringtone from Helene's Call is supposed to be Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye. No way, not even close. Perhaps the script called for it, but that is not what is in the cut. That is Push It by Salt and Pepper All the Way." And then Donna F. from Jasper, Alabama, said, "I am listening to The Lover podcast.

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  By the way, I absolutely love your podcasts. You guys are amazing. I just wanted you to know that this song playing on Michael's ringtone in the conference room is not Sexual Healing. It is Push It by Salt and Pepper. Come on, ladies, know your 80s hits. Love y'all. Y'all are the best. Love, love, love your show." And by the way, lady, this exact same thing was pointed out by Abby H., Mark L., Sandra C., Justin W., and Victoria B. And here's the thing. I went back. I listened to it. And I would play an audio clip, but honestly, you can barely hear this ringtone.

• 7:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  I cannot tell what it is. I really tried to hear it. I reached out to Randy Cordray, who had given me the original price breakdown for the music in this episode, and here was his response. Randy said, "I went back and watched the beat of Michael answering the phone, but the ringtone is really quick and somewhat obscured by other dialogue. Then I went to YouTube and pulled up Salt and Pepper's Push It."

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  Aww, he's the cutest.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  The best.

• 8:17Speaker 00

  He's being a mom detective.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  I know. He says, "I mean, that could be it. I'm not really sure. It certainly could be the case that we changed it from the original scripted Sexual Healing." And then in parentheses, he said, "Which often happened in post if Greg or Paul had a new idea about something. So I checked my post and budget files, and I don't see any references to this change. But like I said, I would not necessarily have been notified unless something wouldn't clear, and we would have had to pull some strings. So in this case, I'll have to defer to the ears of our superfan listeners and go with Push It."

• 8:54Speaker 00

  I mean, look at how many places he went and researched.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  I know. So, um, yes, I would like to give Randy an honorary mom detective's badge, and the bottom line is, we defer to viewers.

• 9:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. So thank you, Matt M. from New Jersey, for writing in. Well, finally, Jenna, we got a letter from Lily W. in San Francisco, pointing out some major cringe in this episode.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

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  Lily says, "I want to point out that one of Michael's nicknames for Pam's mom is Pickles. In season seven, episode 12, Classy Christmas Part Two, at 9 minutes and 58 seconds, Jim is opening a gift he thinks is from Pam, and it reads, 'Hey, Pickles, Merry Christmas. Open immediately. Love, Swiss cheese.'" So Michael has the same nickname for Pam's mom as Pam has for Jim? Gross.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  I...

• 9:49Speaker 01

  This feels like... This would make such a great trivia question.

• 9:55Speaker 00

  It really would.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  This is amazing. I want to know, who in the writers' room has the pet name Pickles? Someone, this is, right?

• 10:05Speaker 00

  Or they knew someone.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  That called their significant other Pickles, and that's how this has come up twice now.

• 10:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, if you, if you knew a couple that called each other Pickles, that would forever stick in your brain.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 10:18Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  All right, everyone. Thanks for writing in, and please enjoy your second drink of The Lover.

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  I'm Jenna Fisher.

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  And I'm Angela Kinsey.

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  We were on The Office together.

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  And we're best friends.

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  And now we're doing the ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you.

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  Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

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  We're the Office ladies.

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  Good morning, lady.

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  How are you?

• 10:51Speaker 01

  Hey, I said good morning today.

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  I noticed.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Lady, I posted like an extreme close up of my face on Instagram today, holding my Office lady's coffee mug because I was just so excited to see you, even though it's on a Zoom, and record our podcast today.

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  It's the highlight of my week.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Oh, same. Absolutely. Well, I think we should get into this episode.

• 11:23Speaker 00

  You mean the one called The Lover?

• 11:25Speaker 01

  The Lover.

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  Why am I saying it like that? The Lover?

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  It's hard not to say it like that.

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  I know.

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  Remember those friends of yours that would call one another Lover?

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  Yes.

• 11:38Speaker 01

  They would like this episode.

• 11:39Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. They really would. Lover, I thought you were gonna pick up the groceries, Lover. Okay, I'm standing right here. I'm your neighbor and I'm standing right here.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  We hear a lot of nicknames that Michael calls Pam's mom. Thankfully, none of them are Lover.

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  I know, but they're still so awkward.

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  Boo, Pickle.

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  Pickles and Boo.

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  It is season six, episode seven, written by Lee Eisenberg and Jean Stupnitsky and directed by Lee Eisenberg and Jean Stupnitsky. Although Lee Eisenberg is the only director credited because of that DGA thing that we told you about the last time this happened.

• 12:22Speaker 00

  Right, right. Little tidbit for you. It was edited by Gary Levy, Greg, and Paul's cousin.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Oh, a guest editor.

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  Guest editor.

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  I'm gonna hit you with a summary.

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  I was hoping you would.

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  It's very quick.

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  That's what she said.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Pam and Jim's post-honeymoon glow is dulled by the horrifying news that Michael is dating Pam's mom. Meanwhile, Dwight gives Jim a gift that turns out to be a listening device.

• 12:54Speaker 00

  I mean, that's it.

• 12:55Speaker 01

  That's it. I summed it up.

• 12:57Speaker 00

  You did.

• 12:58Speaker 01

  So this episode really just has a very distinct A story, a very distinct B story. Fast fact number one, we're gonna start with that A story, which I am calling Pam is Mad.

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  Pam is pissed off.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  We had a fan question from Kiana and Andres from Williams, Oregon, who said, "We love ourselves an angry Pam. Our question is, what did you do to get yourself into this mode of angry? Was it difficult, since Pam is usually pretty calm?"

• 13:33Speaker 00

  Oh, Angela.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  This was so difficult for me. As an actor, this episode, I really, really struggled.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  Well, I thought you crushed it, Jenna. I loved it. I laughed so much watching it. And for once, it was nice that someone was more angry than my character.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  I guess I can see that. Well, for me, Angela, I just really struggled with how confrontational Pam was in this episode because I never felt her as a confrontational person. So does Pam get mad? Oh, sure, she does. But she's a like silent sufferer. Does that make sense?

• 14:20Speaker 00

  No, yeah, it does make sense. But in this one, she is almost like a like a hostile teenager.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  I had a lot of conversations with the creative team about this because I just could not make that leap from the Pam I had been playing to the Pam that was scripted in this episode. And, you know, what we decided was that everyone has a breaking point that makes them behave out of character for themselves. And this was it. Michael dating Pam's mom was the thing that was gonna show us a whole new side of Pam.

• 14:55Speaker 00

  I agree with that. I mean, you know, we all have someone that is in our lives. And if they became part of our family, we'd be like, ah, ah, ah, no, no, no, no, no. So I believed it.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. Strangely, even watching this episode, I was like, did I do it? Was it like, it just doesn't seem like Pam to me. It's so crazy.

• 15:23Speaker 00

  Jenna, not only did you do it, but as your BFF, I have to brag on you a little bit. I found an article in researching this episode that I wanted to read to you.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 15:33Speaker 00

  It was written by Nathan Rabine for the AV Club, and it's still on their website. I'm just gonna share a little bit of it. Nathan writes, "Many years ago, back when I worked at a thrift store, a singularly unpleasant coworker I'd had a bitter falling out with ambled up to me and awkwardly asked for the phone number of one of my sisters. I will never forget my reaction. Without thought, without premeditation, I shouted, 'No!' and stormed away in a huff. I did not merrily refuse his request. I responded with revulsion, visceral horror, and something resembling rage. I am not proud of how I

• 16:17Speaker 00

  reacted, but if I had to do it over again, I would respond the same way. It really was the only sane reaction. There's something deeply unnerving about our friends or coworkers having sex with our relatives that grows infinitely creepier the less sure we are about the friends or coworkers in question. I'm not just saying this because I am deeply, deeply repressed. So I knew exactly how Jim and Pam felt when they found out that Michael had, in his deliciously, pointlessly, formal turn of phrase, taken a lover. And the lover in question was Pam's mom. The writing and the acting really sold the can't-miss premise.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  It was a half hour of awkward awesomeness, and I'm not even mentioning the niftiness of Ryan's fedora of mystery."

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. I love that article.

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  Isn't that so great? I thought you would feel affirmed in your performance.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  I do. And basically, what he is saying is what Jean and Lee kept saying to me every day. They were like, "You cannot help this. This is coming out of you and you can't stop it." That was their direction.

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  I agree with Nathan.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 17:33Speaker 00

  Also, his response to his coworker was so hilarious.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  All right, moving us to fast fact number two. This one is all about our B story, which I'm calling Dwight Records Jim. I got curious.

• 17:50Speaker 00

  Oh, I did, too. I wonder if we got curious about the same things.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Here was what I wanted to know. I was like, Dwight is committing a crime, right?

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  Yeah.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  This is a crime.

• 18:03Speaker 00

  Pretty sure.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  I looked it up.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  Would mom detectives know? By the way, this whole storyline, I made a note to myself. Remember this for mom detectives.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  In 38 states, you can record a private conversation with another person, and you only need one person to know that there's a recording happening. It's called one-party consent.

• 18:33Speaker 00

  So would the party then be Dwight? Is Dwight the consent party?

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  So he is recording, well, I guess he's not in there.

• 18:42Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:44Speaker 00

  So basically, he would need like someone like Creed in cahoots with him.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Basically, everyone who is talking to Jim would need to know they're being recorded.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  But there are 12 states that have a two-party consent law, and that means that everybody being recorded has to give their consent to being recorded.

• 19:08Speaker 00

  Right.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  And those states are California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Washington, and Pennsylvania.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  So he is breaking the law. He is breaking the law. Now, there are exceptions. You can videotape or record anything in a public space, but this is not a public space, or you can record a private conversation in a private space if you reasonably suspect that the person you're recording is about to commit or is in the process of committing a violent crime.

• 19:51Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  None of these things apply. What Dwight is doing is totally illegal. In fact, in Pennsylvania, it is a felony in the third degree. And if he was convicted, he could face three and a half years to seven years in prison and a fine of up to $15,000.

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  And you know who would have known that?

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  Dwight.

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  Dwight.

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  He's knowingly breaking the law.

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  He is.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  And what does he get out of it? Nothing.

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  Eight hours of paper talk.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Eight hours of, yeah, sales calls.

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  Paper talk.

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  All right, Angela, it's fast fact number three.

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  You know what that means?

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  Little clutter.

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  That makes me laugh. I forgot how crazy that is. Sam made that. This is making me laugh. And he made it to sound like The Matrix, which is because he knows me and he gets me. And I love him for it. All right. Fast fact three. From my digital clutter. Remember, guys, this may or may not pay off. Just remember that.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Oh, I feel like you reminding us of that.

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  Okay.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  Maybe means you think it won't, but I have faith in you.

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  So the week we filmed this episode in my digital clutter was an email exchange between myself, Kenneth Paul, who did my makeup every day, and Pamela Santori, who sat next to Kenneth Paul and did the makeup in the chair right next to me.

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  Yes. Oh, how wonderful.

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  The three of us were clearly very interested in some cat videos. And so Pamela emailed Kenneth and I. The subject line says, "Cat and sneakers." And the message says, "Smart kitty!" Exclamation point. Enjoy. And it's a video, Jenna, and it was still in the email, so I'll put it in stories. It's a commercial for a foot odor spray. And in the ad, the cat takes the owner's smelly sneakers and carries them one by one to its litter box. And it had this ridiculous jingle. And after I rewatched it, it lived in my head for days. So get ready for the jingle. Enjoy.

• 22:24Speaker 00

  So while that music is playing, the cat is moving the sneakers.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  I don't know if it's possible, maybe without the meows, but doesn't that music sound like the sneak music for the mom detectives? Like when we are sneaking up on a suspect?

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Meow, meow, meow, meow. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Meow, meow, meow, meow. Boom, boom, boom, boom. But maybe we say, "Mom, mom, mom, mom."

• 22:53Speaker 00

  Detect-t-t-tives.

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  Oh, who's gonna watch the show? That is my digital clutter.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  I loved it.

• 23:03Speaker 00

  There were some hot emails going back and forth in hair and makeup.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  I think we should take a break. I want to show you something before we go. Look what I have. Not gonna show you what's written on them.

• 23:17Speaker 00

  You have two note cards.

• 23:19Speaker 01

  I have two note cards because I had two late-breaking ideas of things I wanted to share. One, the blue one, is full of facts.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  Great.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  These are late-breaking facts that came in from Randy Cordray. Didn't have time to put them in my document, put them on a note card. The green note card is some personal stuff I want to share with you.

• 23:41Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  It is completely unrelated to this episode, but I need to get it out.

• 23:46Speaker 00

  And you're seeing the need for a note card.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 23:50Speaker 00

  Well, I'm excited to come back from this break because you have what I'm calling some hot facts, because they're hot off the press.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Hot off the press facts.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  And personal scuppage.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  Yep.

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  We'll be right back.

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• 26:05Speaker 00

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• 26:23Speaker 01

  We are back. And you know who else is back?

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Pam and Jim. They are back from their honeymoon in Puerto Rico.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  And Kelly is really, really happy for them. She's really happy.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  I know. They have an adorable talking head. The honeymoon is great. They're glowing. I mean, this was a great trip for them. But then, they're reminded of where they are now, which is with Michael and Blind Guy McSqueezy.

• 26:53Speaker 00

  I have a background catch in this scene.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  Is it at 58 seconds?

• 26:58Speaker 00

  No, it starts at 36 seconds. Mindy's in the background, behind Dwight, like by those filing cabinets by the pillar.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  And she looks like she's clearly checking her phone. Her head is down. And then she looks up, and it's like, she's like, oh, crap, I'm supposed to be over there. And she does this slink move around the plant and scooches her way back up to where I think she's supposed to be. I filmed it. It's so hilarious.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. Are you serious?

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Yes. I have got to show it to you. I need you to see it in real time, lady. This is so funny.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Look at this.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 27:45Speaker 00

  Her move around the tall plant is hilarious.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Okay, well, at 58 seconds, I noticed Mindy is totally laughing in the background.

• 27:56Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. I caught that, too. She starts to completely break.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Mindy, very entertaining in the background of the scene.

• 28:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. The slink around the plant is amazing.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  Meredith is going to be the six-year-old in the office and ask Pam what they brought the office as a souvenir. Do you feel like Jim and Pam were obligated to bring gifts for their coworkers from their honeymoon?

• 28:20Speaker 00

  You know what? I don't think they were obligated, but I would. Like, if I married a coworker in a small office and we went on a honeymoon, we would bring something back. You just would. I thought the candies were perfect. That's sort of for the whole bullpen. I was surprised they brought an individual gift for Michael.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  They had two options. Who was getting the seashell alarm clock, I wonder?

• 28:43Speaker 00

  I don't know, but I would take it. That sounds really kitschy and fun to me.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  You would have kept that. You're not giving that away.

• 28:48Speaker 00

  I wouldn't give that away. I would have bought it for someone else, but then kept it for myself.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Well, Meredith is bummed that Pam only brought candy. She's probably going to be even more bummed that it's going to take a while for Pam to set it out, but we'll get there.

• 29:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. What's up with that? With the permission and the asking, Michael? I was like, what is this weird power play happening over the candy?

• 29:08Speaker 01

  I don't know, but I thought it was so funny.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  Well, now the episode's gonna start. And Dwight is, um, well, he's starting his espionage.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, he storms into Jim's office, and he's like, "Two things. Number one, stop leaving your pens on my desk. Just because you got a promotion, it doesn't mean you get to leave your stuff all over the place. And number two, congratulations on your promotion." And he does this, like, turn, and he's gonna present him with a promotion gift of a wooden mallard.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  Well, Jim is gonna say, "Thanks for the duck." And Dwight quickly says, "Mallard." He corrects people multiple times in this episode. When they say duck, he says mallard. So Jenna, I had to know, what's the difference between a duck and a mallard?

• 29:53Speaker 01

  Well, a mallard has a green head, and it's a male duck. I know that from my summers at Lake of the Ozarks. We had lots of ducks.

• 30:03Speaker 00

  Here's what the internet says.

• 30:05Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  There are over 120 species of ducks. A mallard is just one type of duck. Mallards are probably the most popular species of duck in North America, in Eurasian, wetlands, parks, and ponds. This is a sexually dimorphic species of duck. That means that the males and females look different from one another. Male mallards sport bright green heads and are easily identified. But female mallards are a brown color, not without their own subtle beauty. Both males and females have a blue patch in their wing. Mallards make the popular quack sound that most people associate to the sound of a duck. And then it ended with this. And a female mallard is particularly vocal.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 30:50Speaker 00

  There you go. That's what the internet had to say about mallards.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  We had mallards at my parents' lake house. We loved them.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Well, I'm not done.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  Get ready for this. While Googling mallards, guess what was the first thing that came up, which was crazy to me?

• 31:12Speaker 01

  What?

• 31:13Speaker 00

  And I know you're gonna think this is me having a thing for trains, but on July 3rd, 1938, a steam locomotive called the Mallard claimed the world's speed record at 126 miles per hour.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  Oh, I think Google gave you that fact because it knows how much you like trains.

• 31:32Speaker 00

  I guess it does.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  I bet if I Googled mallards, I would not get that. I'm gonna do it right now.

• 31:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  I'm curious. What did you Google?

• 31:40Speaker 00

  I Googled famous mallards.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  Famous mallards?

• 31:45Speaker 00

  I didn't know if there was like a, or like a popular story about a mallard.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  You know what comes up for me?

• 31:50Speaker 00

  What?

• 31:51Speaker 01

  A Wikipedia page called List of Fictional Ducks.

• 31:55Speaker 00

  Ah, well, for me, this came up. It was named the Mallard because Sir Herbert Nigel Gresley, I hope I'm saying that right, was a British railway engineer who enjoyed breeding waterfowl as much as he loved making trains, I guess. He also designed a train he called the Flying Scotsman. And here's this, the A4 number 4468 Mallard still holds the record for being the fastest steam locomotive in the world.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  I'm gonna get you a train.

• 32:28Speaker 00

  I just thought that was crazy. I was looking up information about mallards and I found a train.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  I think it's an algorithm in your computer now. It knows to show you these types of facts. I think you're gonna get a lot of train facts.

• 32:44Speaker 00

  I also got some wallpaper with ducks on it.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  You bought wallpaper with ducks?

• 32:49Speaker 00

  No, wallpaper came up in my search. If that tells you the other thing I've been Googling. Guys, I want a wallpaper. Listen, that's a subject for later. Can I have duck wallpaper? Or train wallpaper? Or both duck and train wallpaper? Okay, I'm gonna stop talking.

• 33:05Speaker 01

  I have an observation from this scene.

• 33:07Speaker 00

  What?

• 33:08Speaker 01

  So remember last week when we were talking about the storyline of Aaron destroying Pam's watercolor?

• 33:15Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Well, at 1 minute 59 seconds, over Dwight's shoulder, he's standing in Jim's office. You can see that there is nothing on the wall where Pam's watercolor should be. And that is how it's gonna be in this episode. The wall will be blank. There's another great shot of it at 4 minutes 53 seconds when Michael walks up to reception. But next week, there's gonna be something there. Not Pam's watercolor, but I'll point it out.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 33:48Speaker 01

  So listen, ultimately, Jim is gonna take the duck. Dwight leaves. He has a talking head where he reveals he inserted a listening device into the belly of the duck.

• 33:59Speaker 00

  It looks like a walkie talkie.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  It is. He calls it a listening device. This is a very crude system he's created.

• 34:08Speaker 00

  We'll find out why.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  Exactly. So something I want to point out, as Jim is sitting at his desk and he puts the Mallard down, at 2 minutes 50 seconds, there is a photo on Jim's desk of Pam. Do you know what the photo is?

• 34:25Speaker 00

  No.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  It is that old fuzzy-haired photo of Pam with her eyes half closed. It's the one they put the beans on.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  Why has he framed this weird picture of Pam and put it on his desk? It was so weird to me. It's weird.

• 34:45Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  I don't know what that was about, but I'm gonna track it because it's suddenly on his desk and I'm curious, is it gonna stay there?

• 34:53Speaker 00

  How long will the fuzzy picture of Pam be on the desk? Tracking it.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Tracking it.

• 34:59Speaker 00

  We have a delicious Jim and Michael scene coming up in the kitchen. Jenna, I just feel like you know you're in for a doozy of a conversation if it starts with, I have recently taken a lover.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:13Speaker 00

  I mean, if you're leading in with that line, I'm gonna get a cup of tea and sit down. I'm gonna get comfortable.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  You know, Jim says, who's the lucky lady? John is totally breaking when he says that. Did you see? He's like, who's the lucky lady? Like, that is John, right there.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  And then I laughed so hard when Jim's like, you did not have sex with Pam's mom. And Michael's like, oh, big time. And Jim says, what kind of car does she drive? And Michael goes, a green Camry. And Jim's like, [BLEEP].

• 35:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that was not in the script. That curse, that was on the day.

• 35:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then just everything about the beats of the scene is so funny. And when Jim is like, find a new way home, man.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Oh, we got a fan question about that from Jessica S. in Columbia, South Carolina. She said, in season two, episode two, Pam says that her mom lives about two hours away. But in this episode, Michael says it's easy to date Pam's mom because she's on his way home from work. Did Pam's mom move? Yes, we think she did after the divorce.

• 36:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I believe that.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, she moved closer to Pam.

• 36:25Speaker 00

  Michael is doing that thing I feel like we've all done at some point where you date someone who's nearby because it's just easy.

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, but then when you break up, it's really a bummer.

• 36:35Speaker 00

  It's really a bummer, guys, because then they're in your neighborhood.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  When I first moved to LA, there was a guy in my acting class.

• 36:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  And he lived up the street from me and we started dating, but it didn't last long.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  And then like, he was always there. It was so awkward. And you know what was really awkward? Is that like near the tail end of it, you know, when the person's trying to get in touch with you, but you're not answering?

• 37:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  He would say to me in class, he'd be like, hey, why didn't you answer the phone? I mean, I saw that you were home.

• 37:13Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  And I'd be like, because this was like in the time of landlines, when you called a person's home phone.

• 37:21Speaker 00

  The dinosaur time.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yes. And I'd be like, oh, um, yeah. Like, I would go home and my phone would ring.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  And it was really weird.

• 37:33Speaker 00

  I mean, Sam, it's kind of like how Emily shouldn't have hooked up with Gabriel in her own building in Paris.

• 37:39Speaker 05

  I don't want to talk about this. She, you know, I don't want to talk about this.

• 37:44Speaker 00

  I've totally started watching Emily in Paris and it's making Sam crazy.

• 37:49Speaker 05

  It's so bad.

• 37:50Speaker 00

  I'm sorry, but Gabriel is hot.

• 37:52Speaker 05

  And no one said he was. I don't.

• 37:53Speaker 00

  I mean, it would be hard to be his neighbor and not hook up with him.

• 37:58Speaker 05

  All right.

• 37:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  I have not watched this show. Do I need to watch it?

• 38:04Speaker 00

  Oh, Jenna, yes.

• 38:05Speaker 05

  No, you don't.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  Yes, watch it. It's just gonna make you want to travel and eat like amazing food.

• 38:12Speaker 05

  But as a good person, not her.

• 38:15Speaker 01

  You guys know that the name of that show is supposed to be pronounced Emily in Paris?

• 38:21Speaker 01

  That was the intention.

• 38:22Speaker 05

  Well, that's not how she's gonna pronounce it.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  Emily in Paris.

• 38:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, but she's in French class and it's, she wouldn't pronounce it that way, trust us.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  Oh, boy. I'm just saying, I read an article.

• 38:33Speaker 00

  Well.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  And the creators were like, you know, we thought it was a fun play on words.

• 38:37Speaker 00

  I can't get enough of it. I just watched her ride off in a designer moped.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  Sam.

• 38:44Speaker 05

  Look, yes, he's very hot. Her eyebrows are great. She is quantifiably a bad person. And this show makes me mad.

• 38:53Speaker 00

  Well, anyway, back in the kitchen, not in Paris, but in Scranton. I think we're learning an important lesson here. Don't date your coworker's mom. But then Jim, Jim says, whatever you do, don't tell Pam.

• 39:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 00

  Oh, Jim, you know this is gonna blow up in your face, buddy. Come on.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  It's true. Ever since Jim became a co-manager, I feel like he makes bad decisions.

• 39:17Speaker 00

  Are you saying he wasn't supposed to be co-manager?

• 39:21Speaker 01

  I'm just saying.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  Are you going on record?

• 39:24Speaker 01

  I'm saying he's like, I'm saying like, maybe.

• 39:28Speaker 00

  You're having a hard time saying it, whatever it is you're trying to say.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  I'm saying that maybe, maybe this new job, he's actually working all day and it's causing him to not be able to.

• 39:47Speaker 00

  Dedicate all of his time to Pam?

• 39:49Speaker 01

  No, to have the same instincts he had before about like, social dealings. You know, he blurts out that Pam is pregnant at the wedding and he puts beans on his coworker's face. There's suddenly like, he doesn't have his good social instincts.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  You know what I think?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:09Speaker 00

  I think the more time you spend with Michael, the more you start becoming Michael-like.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  This is what I'm saying. Yes.

• 40:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Yes. Well, Michael is going to take Jim's advice. He's gonna go up to Aaron. He's gonna change their dinner reservation from four people to two people. And he says it's okay to put out Pam's candy. Yay.

• 40:33Speaker 00

  There is a deleted scene where Aaron announces to the bullpen, hey, everyone, Jim and Pam brought candy and it is out now at front reception for you to enjoy. Like, she makes this big announcement and Pam goes up to her and goes, you don't, you don't need to announce when candy's put out. Just put it out and then Kevin will come and take most of it. And that's what happens.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Well, I have a very exciting piece of news here. At 4 minutes and 54 seconds, we got a shot of Erin's desk. And I would like to revisit something. Remember that boot and that bear on her desk?

• 41:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  And we could not figure out?

• 41:19Speaker 00

  What it meant?

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Vinnie 2.022 tweeted us to say, "I think I solved the pink mug at Erin's desk. It's from JFBB Ski Resort."

• 41:35Speaker 00

  Oh, good catch, Vinnie.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  Sure enough, the logo is the same. Makes sense that it's a ski boot. And it stands for Jack Frost Big Boulder Ski Resort. It is located in Lake Harmony, Pennsylvania, which is only about 50 minutes outside of Scranton. It's not a big ski resort. Jack Frost Ski Mountain has about 18 runs. It has a freestyle area and a tubing area. Big Boulder has about 12 runs, a tubing run, and a couple of freestyle terrain areas. But does this mean that Erin is a snow skier?

• 42:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, Erin's a skier. Who knew?

• 42:19Speaker 01

  Is this our only indication in the series that she skis?

• 42:23Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  We don't know because we are doing this re-watch in real time. We might get mail that says, guys, in season eight, there's a huge storyline where Erin explains that she skis all the time.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  I feel like we would remember that. I feel like we would remember that she skis. I remember she roller skates. We don't have a big storyline about skiing.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  We don't know.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  We don't know.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Listen, I didn't remember that I used the big shredder. I made a big declaration that the shredder was never used. And turns out that wasn't true, so.

• 42:59Speaker 00

  You never know.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  You never know. But anyway, mystery solved.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  It's time to give Michael his gift. Pam is ready to march over there. Jim really doesn't want this to happen now. He's very worried that the whole Michael and the mom info is gonna come out.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  They settle on the rum. They're gonna give him rum. And as Jim's leaving, what does he hear? (mimicking a dog barking) That walkie-talkie feedback that Dwight has duct taped underneath the mallard.

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's discovered the listening device.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Which Dwight intended for him to.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  But we don't know that yet.

• 43:37Speaker 00

  We don't know that yet.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  We don't.

• 43:39Speaker 00

  Well, I have a background catch in the next scene.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  Oh, spill it.

• 43:44Speaker 00

  As Michael is opening his box of rum, on the side of the box, it says Oscuro Rum. O-S-C-U-R-O, rum.

• 43:53Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 43:54Speaker 00

  I looked it up. According to the internet, that rum is actually from Barbados.

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Well, I was very curious about this rum as well. I could not find this anywhere. I texted Prop Master Phil Shea.

• 44:10Speaker 00

  What'd Phil say?

• 44:12Speaker 01

  He made the whole thing. He made the bottle, he made the label, he made the box, he put the parrot on it. All of it. And it was scripted that there was a parrot hugging the bottle. So when Jim has his line, "Michael, keep the parrot." That was in the script. So Phil actually had to invent this whole prop. Isn't that amazing? There was also a line in the script that got cut when Jim and Pam are trying to decide which gift to give, either the seashell alarm clock or the rum, where Jim says, "Whichever one doesn't look like we bought it at the airport." So that was another tip-off for Phil Shea. This had to look like something maybe you bought at the airport.

• 44:55Speaker 00

  Sure, like in one of those souvenir shops.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:59Speaker 00

  Well, I thought it looked great.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  Well, during this scene, Pam is going to find out what's going on. Because Erin's gonna come in and say, "Michael, I changed your reservation. You're all set for two people." And Pam is like, "Oh, fancy dinner tonight. Must be someone special." And Michael's like, "It is. It actually, it really is, but I think I'm gonna, it's gonna end." Pam's like, "Why? No."

• 45:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Michael's like, "Pam, it's very complicated. There's a lot of moving parts." And Pam's like, "You know, if you really like this person, you should see where it goes." And Michael's like, "You want me to be happy?" John's faces Jim as he sees where this is going is so good. But then Jenna, your face when you're like, "Who is it? Who is it, Michael? No, no, no, no, no, no, no." It was so good.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  It was really hard to shoot that scene. They wanted me to take a really long time to realize it. And then they wanted me, you know, to realize it but be denying it inside.

• 46:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  If I remember the direction correctly, it was like, deeply deny this information, even though it's very clear to you who it is.

• 46:16Speaker 00

  It was so good. I thought, you guys, that whole scene played out so great.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Pam is gonna leave the office, and she's just gonna go down to the parking lot and scream. Just scream.

• 46:29Speaker 00

  There was a great deleted scene. Oh, gosh, it's so cringey. And it made Pam scream make so much sense. Michael has Pam's mom's socks. That's all I'm gonna say. He found a pair of her socks, and he's on the phone talking to her directly behind Pam's back while she's at her desk.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  You know, I've got something of yours. I do. Left them at my condo the other night. Mm-hmm. Yep, I've got them right here. Mmm, they still smell like you. It's not gross. I like it. How much is it worth to you? Oh, really? Oh, you are bad. You're very bad. I'm gonna put them on your feet. I have them on my hands right now.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  And then it cuts to Pam screaming in the parking lot. Now, we're not sure if she's overheard this or not because his door was shut and it's over her shoulder. But still, come on. This is what she would have to live with.

• 47:38Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. I did not remember that scene.

• 47:42Speaker 00

  Oh, it is so cringey. He literally is smelling them. He puts them on his hands. They're like these little, like, white footlet socks, you know? And they have like red and pink polka dots.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 47:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what Pam's reality would have been. Which her screaming, it feels warranted.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  I am speechless. I really am.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Dwight is gonna notice that Michael seems tense, you know? And he's gonna offer to give him the chills. This made me laugh so hard.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  So hard.

• 48:17Speaker 00

  So hard. Did everyone do this growing up? We did this growing up.

• 48:20Speaker 01

  This was a slumber party thing. You crack an egg on your head and let the yolk run down. But I never did a knife in the back.

• 48:27Speaker 00

  Oh, we had two versions. We had one that started with, "X marks the spot." With the dot, dot, dot. With the line, line, line, and a question mark. And then it was like, I think it was like you hit a rock on your head and you stabbed the knife in the back, and then the spiders went up the arms. It always gave me the chills, though.

• 48:47Speaker 01

  I mean, it's so violent.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  It's so violent.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  My gosh. We just did an egg crack on the head.

• 48:54Speaker 00

  We did egg crack. We did knife in the back, spiders up arms.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 49:00Speaker 00

  I know. It definitely felt like a moment, though, from the 80s, right? This is like, you know, you grew up in the 80s moment.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Is this still happening today? Young people out there, do you still crack an egg on your head of your friend and then give them chills?

• 49:16Speaker 00

  Let the yolk run down? I, I've done it to my daughter, but I do the egg on the head and the spiders.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Thank God.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  Oh, good. So Pam's gonna yell at her mom now on the phone. She's very upset. Jim's gonna come out and sit with her on that little bench by the warehouse.

• 49:36Speaker 00

  It says in the script, he brings her hot chocolate.

• 49:40Speaker 01

  And a jacket. Although I'd like to point out, she was already wearing her jacket when she was screaming.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  So maybe she flung it off. I like to imagine that like, in anger, she like flung her jacket across the parking lot and Jim had to come down and like gather it and bring it back to her.

• 49:58Speaker 00

  Well, now, whenever I see us doing a scene on the side of the warehouse, I'm like, "It's 3:30." Because Randy told us that's when the lighting was good.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  I remember that hot chocolate was good.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  I thought it was a sweet thing that Jim brought hot chocolate.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  I know. You can't really see me drinking it, but it actually was hot chocolate. They ask you, they say, "What do you want in the cup? Would you like..." You can have anything in it. We're not gonna see it, you know?

• 50:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, water, iced tea. I always got iced tea.

• 50:24Speaker 01

  Well, it depended, you know? Oftentimes, I would put coffee in my coffee mug because then I could drink coffee, which was awesome. And this time, I was like, "You know what? Hot chocolate sounds great. Can I have hot chocolate?" And they said, "Sure." In addition to this hot chocolate, Jim is gonna try to lighten Pam's mood. You know, he's gonna try to gossip with her about the mallard. She does not care. She really doesn't care. She needs him to be more upset about this. This is his mother now, too. She says, "Your mother is sleeping with Michael Scott."

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  And then she just walks away and lets him sit in that moment.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  And with that, I think we should take a break. But I want to point out, I have still not revealed what's on my two cards.

• 51:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, will you get to it? I'm so curious.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  I'll get to it. It'll be in this next part.

• 51:19Speaker 00

  We'll be back.

• 51:26Speaker 01

  I have a new section on Quince that I've been shopping from. I'm now into the handbags. I got the Eloise handwoven clutch in a cream off-white. I love it.

• 51:38Speaker 00

  So chic.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  It was less than $50 and I needed something that was nicer for summery outfits.

• 51:47Speaker 00

  Well, guess what? I have decided this is my season of the cardigan.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 51:52Speaker 00

  So I got the 100% organic cotton cropped cardigan. I got it in the camel color. It is so stinking cute and it was $49.90. Look at that.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  Oh, it's so cute.

• 52:05Speaker 00

  I know.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  I like the buttons.

• 52:07Speaker 00

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• 52:19Speaker 01

  Now available in Canada and the UK too. And when Quince asks where you heard about them, let them know it was Office Ladies. It's the best way to support the show.

• 52:30Speaker 00

  I have something really exciting to share with everyone. I want to shout out the Topo Athletic Revive slippers.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  Let me just talk about it for a second. First of all, the bottom is like a real sole. It's like the bottom is like a sneaker, but it's a slipper. And then the top is like this cozy fleece. I got these for my daughter and now I want them for myself. She's worn them every day and it says they feel like a massage with every step and I can agree.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  I love Topo. I ordered their Terra Venture sneakers.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  Oh, you did?

• 53:03Speaker 01

  In blue and peach.

• 53:04Speaker 00

  Topo Athletic, though, you guys, not only obviously are they functional, but they're so comfortable. Topo has a shoe to fit all of your needs. In my house, we have outdoor enthusiasts, we have hikers, we have fitness buffs and Topo has got us covered.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  Head to topoathletic.com to buy online or use the store locator to find an authorized retailer near you.

• 53:29Speaker 00

  So I've decided something. I want to start wearing scrubs, like in my everyday life.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  First off, love this for you.

• 53:37Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  Secondly, please explain.

• 53:40Speaker 00

  All right. Well, not just any scrubs, specifically figs. It seems like every doctor, derm, pediatrician I meet with is wearing figs and it shows the fit, the colors, the comfort. It's all on point. I want in.

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Okay, I see the vision. Figs truly are as cute as they are functional, soft, stretchy and breathable, yet durable enough for long back-to-back shifts.

• 54:04Speaker 00

  Right. Or in my case, grabbing a quick coffee or a grocery run, sky's the limit, really.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  So true. They also come in so many fun colors and flattering styles, you could have a different look every day of the week.

• 54:15Speaker 00

  You know, I would. And did I mention they also have loungewear, accessories and even a collab with New Balance on comfortable footwear?

• 54:22Speaker 01

  No, but I'm glad you did. Figs really does think of everything, don't they?

• 54:27Speaker 00

  They sure do. So if you work in healthcare, know someone who does, or just want to rock some seriously comfy essentials, head to wearfigs.com right now and use code FIGSRX for 15% off your first order. That's wearfigs.com code FIGSRX.

• 54:49Speaker 00

  We are back and Jenna spilled the beans on the green card and the blue card.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  Well, the blue card is first up, Angela. We're in the scene where Jim asks Andy to come in his office. He's going to start blasting some opera music. And of course, this is driving Dwight crazy. The aria that Jim is playing is from a German opera called Martha by Friedrich von Floto. It is a romantic comedy opera, lady.

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Everyone in the office is hearing it and Creed starts crying.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  Oh, I had so many background catches as we went around the room. At nine minutes, 40 seconds, the camera zooms in on you, Angela, listening to the opera. And the whiteboard over your shoulder says this, I loved it. It says, Post-it rep Joe, 4pm with Phyllis. A Post-it rep is coming in to talk to Phyllis, Angela. And then at nine minutes, 45 seconds, when the camera shows that Creed is crying, I noticed that Creed has a photo of himself taped to the wall. A headshot of himself.

• 56:07Speaker 00

  Not even in a frame, just taped to the wall.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  Just taped to the wall, freestyle.

• 56:11Speaker 00

  That tracks.

• 56:13Speaker 01

  But here's what I'm going to tell you. Here's the late breaking info that came in from Randy Cordray. It's about that song that Jim is playing. He said that that song was public domain. However, we had to pay $1,500 in royalty rights to play that particular recording. Stuff you don't think about. Stuff I don't think about when I watch a show.

• 56:37Speaker 00

  Nope. I do now, though.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  Well, now Michael is going to hold a meeting in the conference room. A lot happens in this meeting and yet I titled this scene, Ryan Has A Hat.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  Uh-huh. I wrote down at 10 minutes, 35 seconds, we see Ryan's fedora for the first time.

• 56:58Speaker 01

  Out of the blue, no explanation. What's going on? This conference room meeting is actually going to be about the fact that corporate wants each branch to brainstorm ways to better communicate with their community. And whoever comes up with the best idea is going to get a $50 gift certificate to a local restaurant.

• 57:20Speaker 00

  I want to point out when Jim announces the $50 gift certificate, how happy everyone was. There's a reaction shot pass and we're all like, even Angela Martin is like, oh, that's nice.

• 57:33Speaker 01

  Good incentive. Everyone likes food. People are shouting out ideas, but Pam is going to suggest that Michael leaving Scranton would make Scranton a better place. That would help the community.

• 57:46Speaker 00

  Oh, Pam's turning up the heat. She literally starts chanting, no more meetings and stands up like waving her hands about, no more meetings.

• 57:56Speaker 01

  Yes, we had a fan question from Zach M. in Venice Center, New York. In the conference room scene, was it Leslie David Baker's idea to join in with Pam's no more meetings? Or was that in the script? I also just love his reaction when Michael says, I'm sensual. Stanley is the king of facial sass. I loved the term facial sass.

• 58:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, me too.

• 58:24Speaker 01

  You know what, guys? That was all Leslie. It was not scripted that anyone should join in with Pam, but he made the choice to be delighted. And I absolutely love it.

• 58:37Speaker 00

  During Pam's rally cry to get meetings canceled, Michael gets a phone call. And he starts to take it. This was the moment my character decides to raise her hand and participate. And Jim's like, yes, Angela, you should tell us your ideas. And I go off into my speech about the accounting department. And the rest of the room, they don't give a crap about what Angela's saying. They want to hear Michael's phone call because he starts it off and he's saying, no, no one talks to my baby that way. Yeah, yeah, no, I'll talk to her. This is all anyone wants to hear.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 59:14Speaker 00

  It was really hard for me to do those lines so seriously because we were all cracking up.

• 59:20Speaker 01

  Steve was being so funny and I checked the script. Everything he's saying was totally scripted, all of that. It was perfect.

• 59:29Speaker 00

  It was perfect. The only line that I caught that was improvised was actually by Brian Baumgartner. Because when Michael comes back in the room, Kevin says, who's pickle?

• 59:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:41Speaker 00

  And that was not in the script.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  Yes, and that made us laugh too. I don't know if you noticed when Michael's phone rang, it had a distinct ringtone. I couldn't put my finger on it, though. Did you pick it up? I played it over and over and over again. I just noticed that it wasn't like a standard ringtone. And Michael is known for having special songs on his phone.

• 1:00:07Speaker 00

  Right. So maybe this ringtone was assigned to Pam's mom for a reason.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  I couldn't figure it out, but in the script, it says that Michael's cell phone ring is supposed to be the song Sexual Healing. This brings me back to the blue card. Sure enough, we did pay to have his ringtone be Sexual Healing. That is what is playing. We paid $26,500 just for that ringtone.

• 1:00:38Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Which I'm sad to say, the joke didn't even land when I heard it.

• 1:00:44Speaker 00

  Someone must have caught it out there in the world. Someone caught it. But yeah, that ringtone also is only like, ooh, six seconds?

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  If that, yes.

• 1:00:55Speaker 00

  Well, after Michael's phone call, everyone's going to learn that he's dating Pam's mom. And they're like, Michael, you're out of line. And then Michael makes this impassioned speech, you know, like, why can't I have love, you know? Yeah. And then Phyllis is like, well, Michael, I wish you luck. And then Oscar starts to chime in and Pam was like, shut up, Oscar. This really starts a battle between Michael and Pam.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, everyone's on Pam's side, but they quickly turn to Michael's side. And this is even more frustrating for Pam. The news comes out, she thinks she's going to have backup and she doesn't. I mean, even to the point where when she walks up to accounting, Angela gives her a little sarcastic sass.

• 1:01:42Speaker 00

  Angela's enjoying this. Are you kidding? Angela's about to bust out some popcorn.

• 1:01:46Speaker 01

  Well, lady, we got fan mail from Jamie in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, who said, Angela, your delivery of Pam, how's your day going? Is my all-time favorite line in the entire series.

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  It is absolutely perfect and hilarious.

• 1:02:05Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  Jamie, I think we might need to send you an Angela sass sweatshirt.

• 1:02:11Speaker 00

  Oh, we should.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  You like yourself some Angela sass. We're going to figure out how to get that to you.

• 1:02:18Speaker 00

  Thank you, Jamie. It was very fun to play something other than angry. And so being that like passive aggressive bitch was delicious. Well, Pam and Michael have clearly drawn a line in the sand. She wants him to leave the office. He's like, I'm willing to die here. She's like, I'm willing to die here. And there's a standoff. There was an amazing deleted runner between Michael and Jim where Michael is pleading to Jim to please help him with Pam. It starts in the kitchen. I want you to hear part of it.

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  I need you to side with me on this. You're the boss. Everybody here considers you to be the boss more than me.

• 1:02:58Speaker 04

  Oh, that's crazy. Cause you've been the boss way longer. So you've dealt with situations just like this dozens of times.

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  I think that you can solve this because I am not that smart.

• 1:03:10Speaker 04

  Toilet guard? Golden ticket? You're a creative mastermind.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  You have a relationship with Pam. You know her better than I do.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Michael, you know Pam way better than I do.

• 1:03:20Speaker 02

  That's only partially true.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  So then the scene somehow becomes this who's the best boss off? Because whoever's the better boss is who has to go handle Pam.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  I am an idiot. You're brilliant, man. You, you know.

• 1:03:37Speaker 04

  I wouldn't even know where to start, Michael.

• 1:03:39Speaker 02

  You are an excellent moderator, boss, friend.

• 1:03:43Speaker 04

  You are the greatest sleight of hand magician I've ever seen.

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  You're the man for the job. That's why you were promoted.

• 1:03:49Speaker 04

  I can't lie anymore. You're a genius.

• 1:03:51Speaker 02

  Well, okay, all right.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  That just made me laugh.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  I guess Michael's gonna end up going to Toby.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, because he went to Jim and it didn't work. He won the best boss off and he doesn't want to deal with Pam. So he is now having to choose his last resort.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  He gives Toby a hug.

• 1:04:19Speaker 00

  There are so many moments in this scene that I thought were just perfection. First of all, when he goes to sit down and Toby's like, I can get you a chair or you can sit on the shredder. Okay.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. And also Toby's talking head where he is like, he always knew that he and Michael would become friends.

• 1:04:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, if Michael could just give him a chance, you know?

• 1:04:41Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:04:42Speaker 00

  Heartbreaking.

• 1:04:44Speaker 01

  I also think that Toby is very excited to have a reason to go talk to Pam. But it does not go well.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  And no.

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  At all.

• 1:04:54Speaker 00

  And Michael immediately turns on Toby.

• 1:04:57Speaker 01

  Oh, by the way, lady, we skipped over a very important scene. Over in Kelly's nook.

• 1:05:03Speaker 00

  Yes, the fedora moment because Dwight is all of a sudden hearing a conversation between Kelly and Ryan through the mallard walkie talkie.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  We can hear Kelly talking about Ryan's fedora. She wants to get one. Where did he get his? She asks. He says, I'd rather not say.

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  No, he doesn't want to get into it.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  No. All the while Dwight is running back to Kelly's nook and sees the mallard on her desk. A gift from Jim.

• 1:05:35Speaker 00

  And once again Dwight is like, where did you get that mallard? And Kelly's like, what the hell is a mallard? Oh, Professor Damian D. Duck?

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. I want to say that we got some fan mail from Kiri C. in North Hollywood, California, who pointed out that Ryan is not wearing a fedora. He is wearing a trilby. It's a different kind of hat.

• 1:06:04Speaker 01

  I looked this up. The main difference between these two hats, they're shaped very similarly, but it's the size of the brim. Kiri noted that trilbies were very popular during this time, but they were often misidentified as fedoras. This trend was often found with, quote, gents like Ryan, who had a tendency to condescendingly explain things to other, even though the information was not accurate. This moment just is so peak Ryan, that Ryan would be walking around wearing a trilby, but calling it a fedora.

• 1:06:46Speaker 00

  I do vaguely remember that like, I feel like Brad Pitt used to wear these or something. Like, I feel like I remember seeing like big celebrities wearing these hats.

• 1:06:56Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, it was like, like a mini moment.

• 1:06:59Speaker 00

  It was a moment.

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  These trilby hats on the gents. The hipster gents.

• 1:07:05Speaker 00

  The hipsters.

• 1:07:07Speaker 01

  Lady, we're getting near the end of this episode and I'd like to get out my green index card.

• 1:07:13Speaker 00

  Oh, this is the personal stuff.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  This is personal, totally unrelated to the episode. Here's what it is. Lady, you and I have been working really hard producing the podcast each week. We talk constantly. But we talk about work. We have not had a good BFF download in a few weeks. And to me, that feels like very long time not to have a BFF download with you.

• 1:07:43Speaker 00

  I know, we used to at least once a week be able to grab lunch or breakfast or go for a walk or sit on one of our porches and just have just like a gal pal gab.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  I have three things that I have been wanting to talk to you about, but I've not had the chance because every time we're talking, it's about work.

• 1:08:02Speaker 00

  Are we gonna do it right here?

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  This is my moment. I need this moment, okay? And I'm still let everybody in on the types of things that I would bring up to you in a BFF download. Are you ready? I wrote them on the card because I actually have been writing them down so I don't forget to tell you.

• 1:08:19Speaker 00

  Yes, I'm so excited. I didn't see this coming today.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  I know, but this was my in. So the first one is something that has been bothering me for a really, really long time. And I have strong feelings about it. I need to get it off my chest and I don't want people to come for me.

• 1:08:35Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  Okay?

• 1:08:36Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  But you're my BFF and I can say this to you.

• 1:08:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  What the is up with sun butter? It is so gross. It tastes horrible. Who is eating it? Who is eating sunflower butter? Who?

• 1:08:51Speaker 00

  So this is the first I'm ever hearing of sun butter? Because you know, I love just butter, butter.

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  No, sunflower butter is like.

• 1:08:59Speaker 00

  Fakey butter?

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  It's a peanut butter alternate. Okay? You know, you've got almond butter, cashew butter, all these butters that are made out of tree nuts and nuts and seeds. And they have made a spread out of sunflower seeds. And Angela, it's gross. It is not good. And I just need to know, is anyone like buying it for a second time? Cause she'll buy, be like, oh, sunflower butter. This might be really delicious. Let me eat it. Does anyone buy it for a second time? Anyone? Cassie, Sam, feel free to weigh in on this. Your feelings on sunflower butter.

• 1:09:41Speaker 00

  I've never heard of sunflower butter. Thank you, Cassie.

• 1:09:44Speaker 04

  I had no idea this exists.

• 1:09:46Speaker 00

  Oh my God, three of us had never heard of it.

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  Guys, don't buy it. Okay?

• 1:09:52Speaker 00

  My God, the sun butter people are coming for you.

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  I know. And listen, I know that this can be an alternate for people who have peanut allergies. I just want to say, I'm so sorry that this is your alternate. I'm sorry. It tastes horrible.

• 1:10:07Speaker 04

  I will say, even though I didn't know it exists, this absolutely sounds like something Emily in Paris would eat.

• 1:10:13Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, she, you know what, Sam?

• 1:10:15Speaker 04

  Every morning.

• 1:10:16Speaker 00

  She would be bummed because she couldn't get her order of sun butter from the States.

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:10:21Speaker 00

  And she would probably go into work at Savoir and be like, oh, my sun butter hasn't arrived. And they'd be like, oh, stupid American.

• 1:10:30Speaker 01

  All right, well.

• 1:10:31Speaker 00

  Sorry. Our Emily in Paris tangent.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  All right. I've been meaning to complain to you about it ever since I tried it and I tried it like three weeks ago. Done. My second thing.

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  Gluten free Oreos are amazing. You cannot tell the difference. I love them. They are so good. Thank you, Oreos, for making gluten free Oreos.

• 1:10:57Speaker 00

  Jenna, are all your things food related?

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  They are.

• 1:11:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  They are.

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  Does that surprise you?

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  The only thing that's funny to me is if we were in person, I know you and you would have made me A, eat the Oreo. Cause I'd be like, no, I don't want it. I don't want it. I'm not gonna like it. And then you might make me try the sun butter.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Okay, here's the last thing. I recently started following Jessica Seinfeld on Instagram.

• 1:11:24Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, I've been following her for a while and she does all these vegan recipes.

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

  Yes, every day she posts herself making a vegan recipe from her cookbook, which is called Vegan at Times.

• 1:11:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  The videos are so compelling. Everything she's making looks so delicious.

• 1:11:42Speaker 00

  She always looks so fashionable too, and her kitchen's so tidy.

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  I love these videos so much. Every day I look forward to them. What is she making today? Oh, she's frying some tofu today. Oh, she's making like a pesto out of spinach.

• 1:11:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  I want to get the cookbook and try some of these vegan dishes. It's making me want to eat vegan. That's it, lady. That was it. That was my BFF download. Is there anything that you want to share? Anything you've been needing to tell me?

• 1:12:13Speaker 00

  I think my big thing I would tell you is I am losing my mind at the amount of stacks of clutter in my house right now. It's like when you walk in the door, there's like a pile of shoes and the kids have like wedged some socks in their shoes that have been forgotten about. And then there's like an arts and craft project that never got fully put away, but it's just sort of stacked tidily on the dining table. I don't know, Jenna, I'm having to walk through my house and like go into my happy place of like, I'm going to get to that, I'm going to get to that pile, I'm going to get to that pile. It's all going to be okay.

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. You know, I can really relate to that because when we get into these like heavy work periods that we go through from time to time, I feel like I have to shut all of that out. And then when we're done, I know when we turn in this pass of the book, all that stuff is going to come into focus for me and it's going to be super overwhelming, like all the piles that right now I'm managing to compartmentalize out of my life are going to come into sharp focus and they're going to bother me very much and I'm going to have to spend two days cleaning.

• 1:13:18Speaker 00

  I would love like a week at home, like a staycation where we have no plans and every day I tackle one little nook. Like we have this area like under our stairs that is a absolute hot F-ing mess.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  Lady, I really liked that, hearing all that stuff. I hope everyone listening to the podcast enjoyed that.

• 1:13:43Speaker 00

  I feel like if I go in the grocery store and see sun butter, I'm going to like have some reaction. I'm going to be like, huh!

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  I'm sorry.

• 1:13:49Speaker 00

  Just for you.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  I've been holding that in so long and anyway.

• 1:13:55Speaker 00

  And if I finally tidy under the stairs, I'll share on social about it.

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  Great. Good. And you know what? That was your window into our friendship. We discussed the important things.

• 1:14:10Speaker 00

  Because with your BFF, all of it's important.

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:14:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  I'm invested in the bottom of your stairs now. I really am.

• 1:14:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I'm going to try a gluten-free Oreo.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  See, that's best friendship.

• 1:14:24Speaker 00

  Well, Michael has a talking head that he has plenty of female friends, speaking of friendship. His mom, Pam's mom, his aunt, who just blocked him on IM, the lady at Quiznos. He doesn't need Pam. And we also have to mention Pam has just found out that Jim knew, even though he didn't know very long, he knew.

• 1:14:45Speaker 01

  He knew. Yeah, Pam is really mad and she feels all alone because people are saying, I think you're overreacting. She's by herself in this feeling, you know? She feels like Jim has kind of betrayed her.

• 1:15:02Speaker 00

  Well, Jim is going to try to make it up to her.

• 1:15:05Speaker 01

  He is.

• 1:15:05Speaker 00

  He confronts Dwight about the mallard. Dwight apologizes and Jim says, you know what? Wash my car as payment for your deed, right? Dwight's like, that is fine by me. And then Jim gets Pam and they're in the conference room and they have this sweet little moment where he's like, look, Dwight felt bad for you today and he's washing our car. And Pam's like, he did that for me? And then Jim starts reminiscing about Puerto Rico. He says, you know what was nice? Night swimming in Bio Bay. And Pam's like, oh, say more nice things. Well, I had to know. What is Bio Bay?

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. What is it? Is it popular to night swim there? Do tell.

• 1:15:47Speaker 00

  I looked it up and this is what the website, Discover Puerto Rico, which is the official tourism website for Puerto Rico, had to say. Exploring Puerto Rico's bioluminescent bays. If you're seeking an eco-friendly surreal experience, you should include a bioluminescent bay in Puerto Rico when planning your next trip. They are rare ecosystems that happen when microscopic, single-cell organisms called, oh, I'm probably going to get this wrong, dino flaglets? Sure, I got that wrong. They grow in quantities big enough to produce a glow-in-the-dark effect when stimulated by movement. So when you paddle or splash

• 1:16:28Speaker 00

  around, these organisms light up in a neon blue-green color. And so does everything they come in contact with, giving a star-like reflection to the water. They can be found throughout the ocean. However, it is very rare for them to live in high concentrations enough to be noticeable. To put this in perspective, there must be thousands and thousands of these single-cell organisms to make a gallon of water light up. There are only five ecosystems in the world where the concentration of these planktons is high enough to be considered bioluminescent bays, and Puerto Rico is home to three of them.

• 1:17:05Speaker 01

  That sounds so cool.

• 1:17:07Speaker 00

  Doesn't it? I've always wanted to go to Puerto Rico. I was supposed to go there because years ago I wrote a short film called Blacked Out and it was directed by my friend, Andres Anglade, and edited by Juan Marquez, who are both from Puerto Rico. And it won the Crowd Favorite Award at the RINCON International Film Festival. And I starred in it along with my husband, Josh, Creed Bratton, my friend's Tone Bell, and Michaela Hoover. And I was unable to go to accept the award in Puerto Rico because I was in Vancouver filming Haters Back Off.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. Well, first of all, I remember that short film and it's so funny. You and Josh are so good in it. It's very, very funny.

• 1:17:49Speaker 00

  Creed is hilarious in it. I need to find a way to, I don't know, I need to, I don't know where to put it.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  You need a link.

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  I need a link. I own it. I don't know how to have people watch it. But anyway, it was just a passion project of mine, based on something that happened to a friend of mine. And anyway, there you go. Puerto Rico Bio Bay. I want to go. Put it on my list.

• 1:18:13Speaker 01

  My parents are going to Puerto Rico.

• 1:18:15Speaker 00

  They are?

• 1:18:16Speaker 01

  I'm going to tell them about this. Yeah, they love Puerto Rico. They've been several times. It's like one of their favorite vacation destinations and I've never been.

• 1:18:25Speaker 00

  They might even know about the Bio Bays.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  Well, I'm going to call them after we're finished and I'm going to chat them up about it. Because that sounds seriously amazing.

• 1:18:34Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:18:36Speaker 01

  As everyone's leaving for the day, we have this really fun little moment. Just once again, Kevin's going to compliment Ryan's Fedora. Says, where did you get it? Ryan says, I'd rather not say. I don't know why I love the phrase, I'd rather not say. I want to adopt it. It's so douchey.

• 1:18:56Speaker 00

  It's so dismissive.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  I'd rather not say.

• 1:19:02Speaker 00

  Where'd you get your shoes? I'd rather not say.

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  I mean, I like want to do it. Why do I want to do that so bad? It's funny to me.

• 1:19:10Speaker 00

  Put it in your pocket. Bring it out at your next cocktail party.

• 1:19:13Speaker 01

  I think I might.

• 1:19:14Speaker 00

  As if we have cocktail parties.

• 1:19:17Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:19:18Speaker 00

  Okay, where are we?

• 1:19:20Speaker 01

  Well, where we are is that everybody has left and Dwight goes into Jim's office and reveals that the true recording device was that pen that he brought in at the very beginning.

• 1:19:31Speaker 00

  And it's a fancy looking pen. Wouldn't Jim have been like, where'd I get a fancy pen and why'd I put it on Dwight's desk? But again, Jim has entered into the Michael vortex of being a boss. So maybe he's missing these cues.

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. He has all these blind spots now. And Dwight is tickled because he's got eight hours of recordings to listen to. It seems like he's going to listen to them right now, tonight.

• 1:19:59Speaker 00

  I think we need to end this episode with something from the deleted scenes. It is how Michael sums up this whole day to Jim.

• 1:20:09Speaker 02

  Stupid wedding. If I had known the outcome, I would have stopped at third base.

• 1:20:17Speaker 01

  Stupid wedding.

• 1:20:20Speaker 00

  Well, you guys, that was The Lover. Thanks so much for listening and sending in your questions and comments. We love you guys.

• 1:20:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. Next week, we have Koi Pond, which I've already watched and absolutely loved.

• 1:20:35Speaker 00

  Oh, it's a good one. We'll see you guys next week.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  See you then.

• 1:20:44Speaker 01

  Thank you for listening to Office Lady's Second Drink.

• 1:20:47Speaker 00

  This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

• 1:20:51Speaker 01

  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey. Our senior producer is Matt Beagle.

• 1:20:58Speaker 00

  Our Second Drinks episodes are produced by Molly Nugent.

• 1:21:01Speaker 01

  Our audio engineer is Sam Pfeifer.

• 1:21:03Speaker 00

  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

• 1:21:10Speaker 00

  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  So Lady, you know that my son started his own kind of like small business.

• 1:21:32Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  Having to do with sports card trading.

• 1:21:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Our sons have this in common because my son had a fresh drink business this summer, like a fruit smoothie stand.

• 1:21:45Speaker 01

  And so I went to canva.com and I made up these business cards.

• 1:21:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  That said, thank you for your purchase. And then it included a discount code for future purchases. And they were so lovely. They were really nice. My son made a logo for his business and we put those inside of every one of his packages.

• 1:22:07Speaker 00

  Well, you know what? Canva is amazing and they do so many fantastic things and it's so user-friendly. I'm actually making a deck for one of my daughter's projects right now. And guess what? What will you Canva today? Well, I'm Canva-ing a deck.

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  Well, that's the question. What will you Canva today at canva.com?

• 1:22:27Speaker 06

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