Billie Eilish vs. Office Trivia

This week on Office Ladies 6.0, global superstar Billie Eilish returns to the pod! Billie joins Jenna and Angela in the studio to talk about her deep love of The Office and reveals that she now listens to Office Ladies even more than she watches the show itself. The ladies revisit some of Billie’s all-time favorite Office moments, dig into the emotional brilliance of Jim and Pam, Michael Scott’s most unforgettable monologues, and Angela’s iconic line deliveries. Billie also shares details about her new 3D concert film Hit Me Hard and Soft, which she co-directed with James Cameron, before teaming up with her friend and fellow superfan Jack Metzger (AJR) for a thrilling round of deep-cut Office trivia. So grab your pretzel with “the works,” maybe don’t start a sentence unless you know where it’s going… and enjoy! Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question for Around the Town, Chit Chat, The Paper & Second Drink favorite moment:https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram:OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

• 0:04Speaker 00

  I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office lovers podcast just for you. Each week, we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind the scenes details, and lots of BFF stories. We're the Office Lady 6.0.

• 0:25Speaker 01

  Hi, everyone.

• 0:26Speaker 00

  Howdy.

• 0:27Speaker 01

  We can't believe we're saying this, but, I mean...

• 0:31Speaker 00

  Really, truly, we're fangirling because, you guys, Billie Eilish is back on the podcast today.

• 0:37Speaker 01

  By her request.

• 0:39Speaker 00

  She reached out to us. I mean, lady, maybe we're cool.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  We're 100% cool now.

• 0:47Speaker 00

  We are now, yeah.

• 0:48Speaker 01

  It's official.

• 0:49Speaker 00

  It's official.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  Well, listen, she is an incredible person. She was in the studio with us today. She also brought along her dog Shark. And she talks about some of her favorite all time moments from The Office. Those were just so amazing to hear. She really knows the show.

• 1:06Speaker 00

  She knows the show. I mean, there are this like, super Office fandom group that they know the show backwards and forwards. They can quote the show. They know the world, they love the world, and Billie is in that group of people.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  Yes. And I loved talking about her favorite moments with her. And we also talked about her new live concert movie, which just came out, Hit Me Hard and Soft, in 3D, a movie that she co-directed with James Cameron. She tells us about that. And Billie wanted to do another round of trivia.

• 1:43Speaker 00

  Yes, because the first time she was on the podcast, we did Office trivia. She kicked our butts.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  So this time, she enlisted her friend Jack, who called in, and we tried to think of some of just the hardest, deep cut questions. And wow. Well, you'll hear how it goes.

• 2:01Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. So, without further ado, please enjoy our conversation with the awesome Billie Eilish.

• 2:10Speaker 00

  All right, you guys, we're so excited because Billie Eilish is here with us today.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15Speaker 00

  Hi.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  The truth is so great.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Hi, guys. I begged them to let me back on the show, so here I am back on the show.

• 2:22Speaker 00

  Billie, we cannot even believe you want to hang out with us, truly.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  I like called Cameron, who's sitting over there, and I was like, hey, um, I know Office Ladies are that I, you know, I already went on, I had my time, but can I go back on? Can I please go back on? And I have so many things to say, and I'm gonna get into it, but I'm so happy to be here right now.

• 2:40Speaker 01

  It was the most exciting email ever. I was in a dressing room at the mall and I yelped.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  You did not.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  I did. I was like, ah! And then I immediately am side texting Angela, Angela, check your email!

• 2:52Speaker 00

  I was driving, so I'm like, I can't see the email, what is it?

• 2:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're very excited to have you.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  Well, I have one thing to say that is really, really crazy to hear myself say, and the fact that it's true.

• 3:05Speaker 00

  Shark, stop it.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Shark's here.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  Shark is here. Yeah, he's crying in the corners. But I obviously was nervous last time I came because it's you guys, and it's The Office, which is like my oxygen, and there's that. But today, I have to tell you something, which is that I listen to Office Ladies more than I watch The Office.

• 3:28Speaker 00

  I'm out, I'm out, I'm out. That is amazing!

• 3:32Speaker 02

  More, and by the way, I have listened to every single episode of your entire podcast.

• 3:38Speaker 00

  You're kidding me, stop it.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  Up until literally when I walked in the door, by the way, because I'm obviously obsessed with you in this incredible show that has changed my life forever. Like, I've seen the show so many times that I know what I'm watching, and I listen to Office Ladies, like, I'm, I listen to it as soon as I wake up, when I get ready for the day, when I get dressed, when I'm driving, when I'm packing, when I'm cleaning. I listen to it every single night to fall asleep, every single night, and I have listened to every single episode, except like when you talk about like Star Wars.

• 4:13Speaker 00

  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You have to listen to Star Wars. It's really crap-tastic. Okay, the holiday Star Wars movie, though, is so bad, it's so good. We won't, we won't do the other ones.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Okay, but I had to just say that I now listen to your podcast more than I watch The Office. And just so you know, to give you context, I've never done anything more than watched The Office. Because I started listening, like, after we did our podcast. And then I've listened to every single episode you guys have put out since 2019, goddammit. And literally up until I am 29 minutes into Second Drink of Employee Transfer, which you put out 13 hours ago. So I'm fully up to date.

• 4:55Speaker 00

  I am dying.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Every single episode. Hearing both of your voices right now is, like, very confusing for me, because I hear them every day, all day, like this, not in the office, like this. And Sam being here, I'm like, Sam! I feel like I know so much about you, Sam. Because weren't you here when I was here?

• 5:14Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Because, like, I didn't even think I didn't even-

• 5:16Speaker 00

  Sam is day one.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  That's insane. I know, I mean, I know that now.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  From Airwolf with us.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  But I don't, I was like, oh, hey, Sam, you know, when I met you the first time. And now I have all this lore about you, Sam. And I'm like, I know all about Cassie, and I'm like, I just, I know everything. And I am as much a fan of Office Ladies as I am of The Office. And so, yeah, anyway. That's my thing, that's my spiel, and that's why I needed to get the hell in here.

• 5:44Speaker 00

  Well, first of all-

• 5:45Speaker 01

  This is very exciting.

• 5:45Speaker 00

  I am speechless, which is rare, because I was so sweet. And I'm, I'm gonna live on that for a long time.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  Well, are you still watching The Office at all?

• 5:54Speaker 02

  I'm still watching The Office, but I watch The Office now more as like a TV thing. Because it used to be my podcast, like, it used to be-

• 6:02Speaker 01

  You used to listen to it.

• 6:04Speaker 00

  You would have it on, like, in your pocket.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  Yes, I would put it in my pocket.

• 6:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  I mean, I still do that, I did that last night. I've been, like, putting up frames on my walls and, like, putting up pictures. And I've been, like, drilling them into the walls. And so I put my phone in my pocket, and I'm like, I'm carrying things around my house. And usually, it used to be The Office playing, because I know what it looks like. I just need to hear it to, like, visualize it, because I have it all memorized. And now it's you guys. But yeah, I watch The Office now as a little dessert, like, a little gift to myself. It's more of a watching TV than it used to be.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  Are you still going in order? Or do you jump around now?

• 6:42Speaker 02

  I still go in harder. I can't really jump around because I'm watching the superfan episodes.

• 6:46Speaker 00

  I was gonna ask you that. Yeah, are you watching them?

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 6:49Speaker 00

  I mean, I think Dave Rogers, you know.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  Dave Rogers, absolutely.

• 6:52Speaker 00

  He's like, done an amazing job.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Amazing job. I think it was Fun Run that the deleted scenes were so amazing.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  That's on his list of his 10 favorites.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  It's amazing. And the whole episode, I was like, these are so good.

• 7:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  And then, yeah, there's like some episodes with so many deleted scenes where you're like, whoa. Whoa.

• 7:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:14Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 7:15Speaker 00

  And like deleted scenes are just little snippets of moments that he finds that are non-verbal.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 7:20Speaker 00

  I love.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  So good.

• 7:22Speaker 00

  Like so many more like looks around, like people like clocking what Michael's doing or whatever.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  Also, like you have said this about the superfan episodes that is what one thing that's so interesting is so many of the scenes that are added are the scenes and the shots that were in the original episode, but like lengthened on either side.

• 7:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, where it's like, you didn't even know there was more to that scene that you've seen forever, which has been like really amazing. So I'm currently, I've watched everything but season nine because those just came out. So I'm about to start season nine of the superfan episodes. But I keep like going back to the beginning and then like if people are watching with me, I will go to like season four because it's just so good that it's undeniable.

• 8:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  Just to make sure everyone knows how incredible it is. So, yeah.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  I'm rewatching with my kids. So this will be my second rewatch.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  We are in the middle of season five. I can't remember where we just ended. But I really love season four and five.

• 8:30Speaker 02

  They're unbeatable.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  They are so good.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  They are so good.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Like Goodbye Toby. When I knew that Michael was gonna do his song, I didn't even watch the TV. I just watched my kids. Cause I love it when he's like, he's outta here.

• 8:49Speaker 00

  Toby's going away. Like, I love it.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  See ya.

• 8:55Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, it's so good, yeah. I'm, it's so exciting, too, that your kids get to re, like, live it with you.

• 9:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  And also see this thing that is on camera forever that you get to watch. It's just amazing. And then their kids will be able to watch.

• 9:10Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh, that's crazy.

• 9:11Speaker 02

  Isn't that insane?

• 9:12Speaker 00

  It is wild, and we've talked about this, and you've probably heard me say this, but when your kids' friends, who have always known you, is just Isabel's mom, and then all of a sudden, you're Angela Martin to them, and they're like, whoa, what? And I'm like, you guys want a snack? And they're like, you're just like.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  I, it's really wild. It's so wild. It just, because it just, the view changes. It's like me with Sam. I'm like, wait, Sam is here?

• 9:41Speaker 02

  I know so much about Sam.

• 9:42Speaker 00

  You have to say hi.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  Hi, Sam.

• 9:45Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  I know your voice so well.

• 9:47Speaker 03

  It's good to meet you again.

• 9:49Speaker 02

  Wow. Amazing. This is insane. And this is how all fans of Office Ladies specifically feel, is like, you guys are with me through everything. Like, everything I'm going through, at least I have you guys. And what's really been crazy is I was in my house, I was like, cleaning something, or, you know, this is a while ago, this is when I was like halfway through all of your episodes, and I hear like, oh, by the way, Billie Eilish said, did it, and I went like, because I'm like, I forgot for a second.

• 10:22Speaker 00

  You just broke your own door wall.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Whoa, whoa. And then that happened multiple times, and then because I'm letting them play and play and play, I have them all in my queue, so I'm not looking at which one is coming next. And so then it's like, guess who's here today? And then my voice appears, and I hear, hi, guys. And I'm like, sitting in my living room, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it's the most trippy thing, because obviously I experienced doing that with you guys. But I literally am Isabel's friends. Like, I feel like I have this whole new.

• 10:53Speaker 01

  Like, view of it?

• 10:55Speaker 02

  And it's just the most insane thing in the world. Oh, God.

• 10:58Speaker 00

  Well, okay. First of all, last time you were here, we said you can come back anytime. That invitation stands.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  Well, here I am.

• 11:05Speaker 00

  Here you are. And we-

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Be careful what you wish for, seriously.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Well, we wanted to talk to you about some of your favorite The Office moments. And you actually said there's almost so many that-

• 11:15Speaker 02

  There's so many.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  But we were gonna try to narrow it down to three today.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Okay. We can try. Well, that is a really hard question. I like spent the whole week, like, writing down everything and like scrolling through every episode to like make sure that I had the right ones. Okay, so I'm gonna try to narrow it down. First of all, one of the most incredible scenes. Oh, God. Okay, wait, I'm gonna say two and one because they're similar.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  I literally can see your brain like going through a Rolodex.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  No, actually Rolodex brain right now because I have so many. Okay. Jenna.

• 11:56Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 11:56Speaker 02

  God damn it.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Two scenes that are absolutely some of the most incredible acting I've ever seen in my life and undeniably the most incredible between you and John acting that's ever been given to us as a people in the world.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  Specifically, when he confesses that he's in love with you. That is one of the most groundbreaking scenes to me and like iconic and it's such a basic answer because it's such an amazing scene. Everything about it is so special. And on that same note, jumping ahead, when you do your talking head when he's doing his interview for Stanford, you know you, you know you killed that whole- You just, I feel like if I were you, I would be like, yeah, that was pretty [bleep] good. That was pretty good.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Of any moment on The Office, that is like my best moment. Like, and I know it.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Like, you better know it.

• 12:58Speaker 01

  Pretty great.

• 13:00Speaker 00

  Everything that comes across your face.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  It says everything.

• 13:03Speaker 00

  It's just phenomenal. And also, not only do you know it, but Ken Quappas knew it too.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:10Speaker 00

  And he is just, everyone knew it.

• 13:12Speaker 02

  It's obvious.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Can I tell you that I was scrolling Instagram recently and someone posted that the reason I gave that performance was because I didn't know John was gonna come in the door and deliver that line?

• 13:25Speaker 02

  I love when they make that stuff up.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  And it's not true, everybody. I knew it was in the script.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  It was meticulously timed.

• 13:32Speaker 00

  But not only that, she had to do that take multiple times.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:37Speaker 00

  So it's like, she knew he was coming.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  I knew he was coming.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  No [BLEEP]. You're just an amazing actor.

• 13:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  You know, everyone loves him. Of course, he's gonna get the job and, you know, just, we never got the timing right. I shot him down. He did the same to me. And, but it's fine. Everything's gonna be fu- And you turn, and there he is. Are you free for dinner tonight? You go, yes. And he says, it's a date. You turn back to the camera and your eyes have filled with tears.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  I don't know how I did it, honestly.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  I don't know how you did it either. Like, how did you do that?

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Um, when I turned back, the look on Ken Quappas's face, he was next to the camera. He was our director for that episode.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  I remember you saying this.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. He looked at me.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  It's insane.

• 14:19Speaker 01

  He'd been with us since the pilot.

• 14:21Speaker 00

  He felt like our dad.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:23Speaker 00

  And like, having that moment where your dad is like, you did it, kid.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  You know, when something means something to you, it's really moving.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  But when you can lock eyes with someone who knows just as well what it means to you, then you lose it. And so the fact that the Pam inside of me was getting all of her wishes come true in that moment, but then I could look in the eyes of someone else who knew that all of Pam's wishes were coming true, that is what did it. If I had to look at a tennis ball, I can't say that you would have gotten the same thing. So there was like, there was another performance happening off camera that was helping me.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  It's just so amazing. And when you did that... I mean, because you had to do multiple takes. I don't understand how one can recreate this. Also, because it's not like, you know, a scene where you're starting it out crying. It's like, that's a whole other hard thing. But it's like, doing the same scene over and over where you're starting out totally normal and unaffected and then switching over. It's just like, so amazing. And I just can't give you enough props. It's just so magical and you're so incredible.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  Thank you. I actually think it's easier to do starting to not cry into crying. Because if the writing is right and if you know your character, then the truth of it should make the emotion come. I've had to do scenes, like, I had to do that scene where I'm just like sobbing in the hallway and then Dwight comes up to me. It was so much harder to get myself to that state from zero, from nothing.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  That's when you have to, like, listen to sad music and like all that.

• 16:06Speaker 00

  And like, stay away from everyone between scenes doing bits.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  Right. And I know that everyone kind of left you alone and let you have that to fully get into it. And it's just so amazing and moving. And I'm also obsessed with that your song to get you, I think then it was the "Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want" cover by...

• 16:26Speaker 01

  The cover.

• 16:27Speaker 02

  Who was it? Deftones or something insane?

• 16:29Speaker 01

  I think that's right, yeah.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  That's an insane choice, Jenna. It's an amazingly insane, amazing, like, by the way,

• 16:38Speaker 02

  "Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want" by The Smiths is an incredible song and it is so heartbreaking. And when you said that, I thought, wow, that's an amazing choice. And I thought, oh, I haven't heard Deftones version. I listened to it and it's like... And I'm like, so hard. Jeff, hell yeah. That's just, I love, because music does have that effect.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  This one is a metalhead.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  It's amazing.

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. My son is. And so by

• 17:04Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  default, I have now.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  It's amazing. It's just so magical. And, okay, I'm moving it along because I have more.

• 17:13Speaker 00

  That was like one and a half-ish of...

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a lot of moments. I'm just saying, really. I'm like, okay, okay. In my most recent re-watch, because I'm listening to you guys talk about each episode, I'm really watching them more closely now because now I know so much behind the scenes of it, which is so fun and interesting and exciting. And... Angela,

• 17:37Speaker 02

  you just are just gold to this show. It's just like the amount of times that we watch this show and I'm like, "Wait for it." And then you just say something with the most perfect delivery. And it's so interesting because I know how different you are from Angela Martin. And now you're not that cold. You know, you're this bubbly angel of a person. And it is pretty upsetting how incredible you are at playing that kind of a character. And I know that you talked about how you've always kind of before that played like upbeat and fun, light characters. And like on New Girl, you're like, "Yeah, okay." You know, just this like light, kind of owly.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  You have owl eyes, is like what you say in there. Anyway, moving on. So I feel like I know you so well now based on this show. And it's just even more impressive. And like, okay, specific lines of yours that kill me and that we quote all the time is like when Michael is in the bullpen and he's trying to kind of derail everyone from knowing that some of them aren't going to get raises or that all the raises are going to be smaller. And he's like, "Yes, lend Oscar a cup of sugar." And you go, "What are you talking about, Michael?" It's literally like the most incredible delivery of a line ever in life.

• 19:08Speaker 02

  Also, like the amount of times that you like in the conference room just add like an "Oh." And it just, it always makes me laugh out loud. And your ability to be so cruel is uncanny and unbelievable and so moving. And Also, like, just every time, like, Kevin pushes by you and you completely fall, it's just, it kills me. I'm like getting flustered and I'm trying to think of like, more specific moments. Wait, I have them written down, please, hold on.

• 19:43Speaker 00

  You mentioned "Crymate."

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Oh, gosh, freaking...

• 19:48Speaker 00

  "Crymate," I, the, your favorite moment from "Crymate," I love so much that I asked Matt Beagle and Sam to pull it as a clip if we wanted to hear it. Because it's that thing, you love something that we both love, is when Michael doesn't know what he's saying, but he's trying to make a point and he's just meandering all over the place.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  This is one of my favorite Michael moments of all time, because Steve Carell, just anything that comes out of his mouth is gold. And really, like, every line of his is my favorite of the entire show. And specifically, like, what you're saying, when he's like, "Sometimes I just start a sentence, and I just hope I find it. I just don't know where it's going, but just maybe I'll find it along the way." That's one of my favorite things in the world. And you can just see that happen over and over and over.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  What, imagine this, you're in the conference room with us.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  I can't even.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Steve is gonna have a meandering speech, and then he just starts freestyling it, like, just throwing in some extra random thoughts, and that, that'd be it. I would be like, I can't even handle it.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  All right, all right, well, let's listen.

• 20:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 20:54Speaker 04

  So, in order to recoup the value of items we liked, we have to spend more money on things we don't want.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  Who would ever come to this?

• 21:01Speaker 00

  Who would ever come to this?

• 21:02Speaker 04

  I don't know. It could be any number of people. It could be a pedestrian. It could be an old person. It could be a lookey loo. Or, it could be a Bruce Springsteen fan. What?

• 21:15Speaker 02

  Who said that?

• 21:16Speaker 04

  I did. Why did I say that? Oh, I think you know why I said that. I think it's very apparent. I think it goes without saying.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Bear with me.

• 21:25Speaker 04

  There's a point there, but what is the point? I don't understand what he's saying.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  It seems a little shady. It seems a little foggy.

• 21:31Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh.

• 21:32Speaker 04

  Well, it's not a little foggy. There's really something going on.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  Do I?

• 21:37Speaker 00

  Do you need us for any of this?

• 21:40Speaker 02

  Do I? Oh my god, that kills me. Another really quick moment that is like that, when he's like, "The head of a monkey."

• 21:48Speaker 00

  Yes!

• 21:49Speaker 02

  And the body.

• 21:50Speaker 00

  That's the moment I could not recover from.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  How could you?

• 21:53Speaker 00

  He just started throwing out all kinds of animal combinations that weren't scripted.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  And it just goes way too long.

• 22:00Speaker 00

  Also, there's like, long pauses.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  So, where he's really thinking.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  Yes, we don't know.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  It's just the most amazing thing. His brain just works in a way that I just don't understand. One other moment that I just remembered just now is one of my all-time favorites, is when Ed Truck dies and he's like, "It feels like someone dropped, I think, my soul or my heart into a bucket of boiling tears." And then someone else comes in and starts, you know, punching me in the grief bone. And he's just like, making stuff up. But then it just always ends up being so heartbreaking and touching.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  I know.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  And it just kills me. Anyway, I could literally go on forever. I mean, it's interesting that you two are the ones with this podcast because obviously you two are best friends and you're such hard workers and you make this show because it's a passion of yours. But you happen to be two of the most important parts of this show, The Office, and two of the greatest actresses I've ever seen. And your performances in this show specifically are just so incredible and just having it be you two is just really special. And everyone in The Office is incredible, but it's just, I don't know,

• 23:26Speaker 02

  I think I've just been more aware, I think, recently of how incredible you are and noticing it throughout and just being like, "Wow, I can't believe how good Angela is." Anyway, let me stop.

• 23:41Speaker 00

  Well, I mean...

• 23:42Speaker 02

  Just take it in. Just let me say it and take it.

• 23:45Speaker 00

  I'm trying to take it.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  Before we move on, I do want to talk about your love of Michael's birthday. Because you mentioned that.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  My mother was rubbing cream on me for probably three hours.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Those talking heads, I mean, we were just talking about how it's like there's these talking heads and they're like funny, but they're also like, "Ooh, Michael," particularly when he's talking about his childhood or his family.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Oh, God, I can't. I know. I cannot deal with it.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  But you found a candy bag all for Michael's birthday.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  I did. So you know, Michael has these talking heads about his worst birthdays.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  So here's one that was in the script, but was not used. Michael would say, "On my 20th birthday, my supposed best friend, Sam Ambrose, ditched me for his twin sister's sweet 16 party like I didn't want to go. That was my worst birthday until today."

• 24:37Speaker 01

  It's that whole runner of it being his worst birthday.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  It's just, they're all so, so tough to listen to. You're like, "Oh."

• 24:48Speaker 00

  I know. I know.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Well, not to make it worse, but I did ask Matt to pull, this is from the super fan of The Surplus.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  And this is a deleted scene. No, it's not a worst birthday. It's just about his childhood.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  Oh, gosh. Okay.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Okay, let's listen.

• 25:05Speaker 04

  I would like to tell you a little story about a boy named, it, that doesn't even matter, could be any one of you. And like any other 12-year-old boy, he wanted a Pippi Longstocking doll for Christmas. But his evil stepfather Jeff said, "No, you may not have what you want. You must have a football." And the boy cried, and he cried, and he cried, and he held his breath as long as he could, and he wouldn't eat his dinner. But you know something? It turns out that Jeff was right, because I already had a G.I.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  Joe, and a Stretch Armstrong, and a Malibu Barbie, and a Major Matt Mason, which technically is enough for a tea party. So my point is this, I didn't need what I thought I needed. What I needed was to learn how to appreciate what I had.

• 26:02Speaker 05

  Which in this case was enough dolls to have tea with.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 26:06Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Jeff, it's always Jeff.

• 26:07Speaker 04

  Now.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Always Jeff.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Another one like that, that I just thought of too, is when Jim says, "Just make fun of yourself and then they won't make fun of you," after he falls in a lake. And he's like, "Actually, it's not the first time I fell into a lake. The girls used to throw me in a lake." And when he's telling it and then he's like, everyone's like, starting to get uncomfortable, like, "Oh, this is actually kind of a deep rooted drama thing. It's not actually funny." And then he goes, "Too far!" He says, "Too far," and he has this like frog in his throat. And he's like, "Thanks. Thanks a lot, Jim. Thanks for the advice." It just kills me. I just can't even deal with it. And then also, I have a couple written down, except I didn't write them down. I put them all in voice notes. So I'm reading all the transcription of my insane ramblings, but...

• 26:55Speaker 00

  So wait, you're rambling into your phone your favorite moments?

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, because I was trying to like, this is a really hard one for me. Like, this is a hard question for me, but the last one that I thought of was in Weight Loss, when he's like, "Kelly and I are the only ones who've either passed out or almost passed out," and he does this flapping.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  Yes, I know it.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  Yes. And that is so amazing. It just, oh god, and it's just so clearly just him.

• 27:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  And it's so exactly how we feel as people, like, it's just like the most, like, childlike tantrum flap.

• 27:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  That just, every time he does that, it makes me laugh out loud. And then, also, okay, wait.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  Dark, are you dreaming?

• 27:39Speaker 00

  That one got him.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  He's looking really pig-like right now, just for everyone wondering. The other one was like, just, I mean, Prison Mike is just the most iconic thing in the world. And also specifically, I love that John in the background is like, kind of breaking. But my favorite part of him breaking is I like the idea that it's actually Jim laughing at what Michael is doing. Because one thing that I've always thought about The Office is, of course, the humor at the beginning of More is like so dry and it's like, no one laughs, right? And Michael is doing so many things to you, specifically in the first season, that is like, you're just like looking at him deadpan and not laughing. And I feel like...

• 28:28Speaker 02

  The one thing that I've always thought is throughout the show, the amount of things that are so ridiculous and so like unironically funny, I would laugh out loud at in real life. And like the fact that Jim is dying laughing at Michael doing this prison Mike thing, I think is so real. Because wouldn't you laugh at this guy doing that in front of you? Like especially if you're with your friends and you're, you know.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  And you're not supposed to laugh.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  And you're not supposed to laugh. And so whenever anyone breaks, I'm like, that is so real though. Because in real life, somebody doing something that is ridiculous as that, you would laugh without even meaning to, even if you're not supposed to. And I love those moments so much. Anyway, I'm, I have to cut myself off because I'm going to keep going.

• 29:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Well, we also want to hear about your movie.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  That's coming out.

• 29:32Speaker 00

  It's a big deal. This is amazing.

• 29:35Speaker 01

  This, okay, so by the time everyone hears this, the movie will be out because it came out on May 8th.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  It's Hit Me Hard and Soft, the tour. You co-directed it with James Cameron in 3D.

• 29:47Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  I mean, I saw the trailer. I already have tickets. I can't wait to see it.

• 29:53Speaker 00

  It's part of my daughter's birthday present. I'm taking her and a friend.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 29:56Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  We've got a whole Moms and Daughters crew. We'll be filling up two different theaters.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 30:02Speaker 01

  But yeah, tell us about it. It looks so great. It looks like you're giving people a lot of access too.

• 30:07Speaker 00

  Real behind the scenes.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  That was like not planned and kind of came about naturally. And I at first was very like, no, I don't want to do that. Because I was filmed from when I was 15 to when I was 18 for this documentary that was made.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  Which was an amazing experience, but like a lot of my life was filmed. And I kind of have this like, oh, no, I'm good. Like, I don't know if I, you know. And so when it came about, I was like, oh, I would love to capture this show. First of all, it's my. My favorite show I've ever created. And I had such an amazing time on the tour and just in general, that show is like my best work. Like, I just feel like you in that scene. Like, I'm like, yeah, you know what? I I will agree. This is my best work. I feel very proud. So I felt really excited about that. But at first I was like, I don't want to do any behind the scenes stuff. I don't want to make it like a documentary of any kind because I don't want to share too much. And honestly, Jim.

• 31:07Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, Jim.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Jim. He agreed, by the way, but then when we were kind of moving through it, he was like, what if we just like talked and filmed it? And I was kind of like, I don't know. And it just came so naturally. And also, beyond being naturally happening, it was also like I saw the importance of it. And I thought, you know what? This is the reality of me and my show. And it's like, yeah, if we're going to be showing this show that I've worked so hard on, let's show the experience of doing that. And what is my day like leading up to it? And also, like, the fans haven't seen that in a while.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  And I thought that it would be really fun for them, too. And also in 3D, I mean, I would have loved to have seen my favorite artists when I was young in 3D because I could have felt like I was there and I was in front of them. And it's been a really intense and long and grueling process of making it and editing it and working on every aspect of it. But it's now I can feel, I feel like relieved because it's, I feel really good about it. And I think it's really good. And I'm really, really excited.

• 32:20Speaker 00

  I can't wait.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Really excited. You know, there's this great quote that has something to do with like, one of the greatest gifts as an artist that you can give other artists is to show your brushstrokes.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Because we so often just put out like,

• 32:34Speaker 00

  The final product.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  You just see the final thing. So I feel like with this movie, we're going to get to see some of the brushstrokes.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  We're going to see how the whole thing comes together.

• 32:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  My daughter just admires you so much. And and I I love that she's gonna.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  See someone that she idolizes like doing all the work to get to the big moment on stage.

• 32:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  And then also.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think of that.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  It's just really cool, you know, it's like a really valuable gift that you're giving.

• 33:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  So, thank you.

• 33:03Speaker 00

  I mean, I always love the final product. The process is what always just like tugs at my heartstrings because you see how much work it really is and it's so important to see the work that you put into something.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  That's really true. Yeah, that's really true. I hadn't really thought about that and it's really true because I think like it's so easy to see a final product and be like, well, that it was perfect from the start. And it just wasn't. And also, like, you know, even though this movie, we didn't start it until I was already way into the tour and, you know, I had been doing the show for a while and it was kind of perfect at that point in terms of like process. But we had filmed like, we had, just to have, we'd filmed a little bit of the beginning of the tour and, and also specifically like the night before, and it's in the movie somewhat,

• 33:54Speaker 02

  but the night before we started filming, I sprained my ankle, which I hadn't done in six years. I used to do all the time and literally I was in Manchester to film the movie. I had this meeting with Jim. I went to my hotel and I immediately sprained my ankle by stepping out onto my balcony, which was a two inch drop.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  You're so athletic in your concerts, but it was like stepping on the balcony.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Yes, that's what did it. And so I, the next day, started one of many, many shows in a row being filmed in 3D with a sprained ankle. And I was like, you know what? This gives me a challenge. I love a challenge. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna, you know. And I, and I think like really what the movie is about, aside from, you know, the fact that this tour and this show is so special for me and I want everyone to see it and the fact that the tour ended and not everyone in the entire world got to watch it. Is, I feel so grateful and lucky that people who didn't get to come are gonna get to see it and feel like they were there. Also, people who did get to see it and want to relive it,

• 35:01Speaker 02

  and specifically, selfishly, that I will forever get to watch this and analysis.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  Yes. It's so special, I think, to have any kind of visual or oral history of something that meant a lot to you.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  And we have that with our podcast. We think about that all the time.

• 35:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, we've said now, we've gotten on record, every memory and story, minus the ones we're saving for Office Ladies, Burn It To The Ground.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  We have them out there now.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Girl, we're all ready for that one. We are all ready for that. But it's like in the, literally in the office, when Phyllis says, like, "I worked here for this long and I never wrote anything down." You know, we all think like, "Oh, I'll remember that forever." And you just won't. And like, if it's filmed, and like, you guys, like, this is recorded forever. Like, you're gonna have this forever to listen to, and you have The Office forever to watch. Like, it's just such a gift. And I feel, honestly, before Jim reached out to us, me, through my mother, he sent an email to my mom, literally, that's how it happened.

• 36:06Speaker 00

  Amazing.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  I was like, I didn't have any plans to film the show because I wasn't gonna make a concert film of any kind. And I was already feeling like, damn, that sucks. Like, I, this is such an important show to me, and no one's ever gonna be able to, like, watch it. And the movie really is about the fans. Like, the real truth is that it's all about the fans and my feeling of devotion to them, and their feeling of that with me, and our love. And like, honestly, similar to The Office. It's like, what am I without my fans, you know? And it's like, what is The Office without the fans? It's just, it's all this one big...

• 36:50Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 36:50Speaker 02

  The community of it. And that's my favorite thing in the world. I wouldn't do any of this if it weren't for that, you know?

• 36:56Speaker 01

  It's a really cool thing. The openness and the like, human to human thing that happens. Like when we meet someone and they are telling us how much the office means to them. That is such a gift to me. That I get to be part of this thing that brought that other person this joy or whatever. So it's like, it's such a really cool connection.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  It's really cool. And like, you know, this is like, I know, like an intense subject. But like, what you were saying about sharing your process. That made me think of like, your health journey, Jenna. And how, what you said on the podcast about like, this is a really intense, scary thing to be going through. And you have totally the right to be like, I'm never speaking about it. I'm never talking about it. Please don't ask me about it. And instead, because you have said on this podcast about how like, sharing your experience might help other people. And other people who are experiencing this.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  And that is such an amazing gift. And the amount of people that I think you sharing your health journey with like, changed their lives. And made them feel seen and like, they're not alone. And that's just really special. And you don't have to do that, yet you do. And I think like, that's obviously like, completely a different thing than this stupid little movie I'm doing.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  Oh, no, no.

• 38:26Speaker 02

  But it just made me think of that. And I just wanted to verbalize to you, like, you don't owe anyone anything. And yet, you're so giving. And it's just so magical. And like, sharing your story with people just to help them is so selfless and so kind. And yeah, I just had to say that.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Well, thank you. You know, it is a fine line. It's like, there's always that question of how much do I share and how much do I keep for myself? Sometimes, you know, when I start sharing about breast cancer, I have to think about breast cancer. And I'm pretty excited to not think about it. So yeah, there's that.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 01

  But the thing is, is that anytime I've had a person tell me that they got checked because they heard my story. Or they found something early enough to do something about it because they got checked because they heard my story. It means so much to me. Like, it means so much to me. But yet, even still, I do pick my moments. And I think that it's okay to pick your moments of access. Like, you don't have to give everything. But, you know, there's a balance there. And I think that's as an artist, I think we're always trying to find that balance, which is like,

• 39:47Speaker 01

  how much do I have to keep for myself? Also, in order to do my art, I don't know about you, but like, there's a certain amount of like, process that I get into superstitious thinking. And if I share too much, then it doesn't work.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. And also, like, again, not, that just what you were saying made me think of how much I look up to you and how much everyone looks up to you. And I'm in no way trying to compare it, the two, or your experience and your journey with anything in the entire world. Cause it's like,

• 40:15Speaker 01

  But you're talking about sharing.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Talking about in general.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  No, when you get.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  Sharing is so.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Sharing, you put yourself out there. You're invulnerable. Every time you share, no matter

• 40:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:25Speaker 01

  what it is you're sharing.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  And in life, whether you're like a junior in high school and you decide to share your essay in front of the class, or you're, I don't know, a nurse at the hospital and you share like the crocheted sweater you made. I don't know. Anyway, this is like a Michael Scott analogy. I am turning into Michael Scott, we've discovered. But I do think every time you share as a person, you're stepping out there. Yeah.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  And it's like, it's just, we must not forget that sharing saves lives. Like, it saves lives. And like, It's just, it's easy to be like, ah, no, no. And you know what? You don't have to also.

• 41:04Speaker 00

  You don't have to. You don't have to. You get to decide. And the one thing I will say, you know, about The Office and about your concerts and going to concerts like that. My daughter went to this concert with her friends and saw it. There is a shared joy. And that's amazing.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:21Speaker 00

  Like to share joy with someone, like that should be our goal, right? Is to share joy. And I know your movie's gonna do that for people.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Oh, thanks, Angela.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  And it's gonna bring it to people who didn't get a chance to see it.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  I know. That, that to me is like the most important thing, you know? And I'm just really excited. And also, I'm just, I'm excited again, like what you said, like for people to like go have that experience together. And like go with their friends and make friends and have this memory and go with their families. And you know, it's just like thinking about that is really, really special. Anyway, sorry Jenna to bring that stuff up, but I just wanted to say that I'm, I feel very inspired by you and very tender towards you.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Well, I actually appreciate you saying it. It was well timed because I just agreed to do a little bit of like a public service campaign. And I was feeling a little nervous about it.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  Wow, that's a lot.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  So, thank you because, you know, I was nervous. So I'm gonna go into this campaign and I'm gonna be fired up.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  Thanks to you.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Oh, God. I'm glad. You're amazing. I'm, everyone loves you. Anyway.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  All right, well, listen, we have one more thing planned before you leave, which is that you have requested.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Yes, I have.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  To do an office quiz.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  With your friend Jack.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  With my friend Jack. So let me explain really quick. So my best friend, Alex Wolf, he's an incredible actor. He's wonderful. And Alex, he has another very best friend and it's Jack Metzger. And he happens to be the J in the band AJR, if you've heard of them. Anyway, I met him through Alex and like at some point a couple of years ago, we met and we were around each other. And I knew he was out, my best friend's other best friend who lived in New York. And we did, I was like, oh, you're the other best friend. Oh, you know? And then they were like, well, actually, Jack knows The Office like better than anyone in the world. And I was like, oh, hmm, interesting, because no, he doesn't.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  And I remember immediately having this feeling of like, the hell, no, he doesn't. And actually, instead of it making me like, like, we started talking about it and I felt seen for the first time in my life. I was like, oh, my God, I've never met anyone who loves The Office the way I do until I met Jack. And so we immediately became best buds. And now he's like one of my favorite people in the world. And anyway, all we do, we have a group chat called Office Trivia. He loves The Office as much as me and almost is as good as I am with the trivia.

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Just. Okay, okay. On that note, on that note, we're gonna take a break. And when we come back, we're gonna have Jack and we're gonna do trivia.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  Office trivia.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  Jack. Okay, okay, good. Oh, good, I can see you.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, Jack, like, our, like, connection about this show has been life-changing. And I literally love you so much, seriously. And so, anyway, he is very nervous. He wouldn't say it, but he's very nervous and he's trying to act cool, but he's really nervous.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Jack, how many times have you seen it? Have you watched it a lot?

• 44:45Speaker 06

  Honestly, I would say probably 20 times.

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Okay, so do you have a favorite season or?

• 44:53Speaker 06

  I'm probably gonna go with season two.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  Season two. Respectable, I like it.

• 44:59Speaker 06

  Yep, season two. I used to watch it when it first came on, first season on TV.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Oh, that's amazing.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  Appointment television days.

• 45:07Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:08Speaker 01

  Must see TV Thursdays.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  All right, well, let's get this trivia going. We're gonna start with this. It's the official Office Trivia Board Game. It says, "Are you a true dunderhead?"

• 45:19Speaker 02

  Whoa, dunderhead.

• 45:21Speaker 00

  Let's find out. I'm gonna pick five from this deck randomly. Here we go. And then Jenna has a special surprise quiz.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  But we're gonna do...

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Look at that look.

• 45:32Speaker 00

  Here we go. Official The Office Trivia Game.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  I'm scared.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  Who told Michael to, quote, "start over" after Michael called him an idiot?

• 45:43Speaker 06

  Daryl.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Oh, Daryl.

• 45:44Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh, right away. Okay. Who was the Secretary of Knights of the Knight?

• 45:49Speaker 02

  Dwight?

• 45:49Speaker 00

  Yes, softball. Okay.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  That's like too easy. It was confusing almost.

• 45:53Speaker 00

  Whom did Dwight want to give a post-apocalypse, quote, "knapsack filled with canned goods, chainsaw, gasoline..."

• 46:00Speaker 06

  DeAngelo.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  Yes, DeAngelo.

• 46:02Speaker 06

  I'm sorry, I didn't let you finish the question.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  I couldn't even process what you were saying.

• 46:06Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh, you got that so quick. Okay. Who became the receptionist and loved it while most of the office was in Florida?

• 46:13Speaker 06

  Andy.

• 46:13Speaker 00

  Yep. Okay, is that five? That's four. Here we go. Who told Angela that the only premature baby in the room was the one her baby ate?

• 46:22Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 46:23Speaker 00

  Oh, oh, oh.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  What was the baby this baby ate?

• 46:26Speaker 01

  Oscar, Oscar.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  God, I couldn't, I haven't seen that episode in a while.

• 46:29Speaker 00

  Okay, you guys are five for five together of the official Office Trivia Game. But Jenna, are you ready to razzle dazzle?

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Okay, guys, we received an email.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  Billy, that said you had requested, quote, "the hardest trivia we could think of." We had a feeling that this board game would be too easy. So, we asked one of the National Office Trivia Tournament winners to write some questions for you both. Okay, this is my friend Will Allen, who competes in the National Online Office Trivia Tournament with his team. Who's your worm guy? At its peak, this competition was between over 700 teams from around the country. His team won twice and placed in the top 10 over a dozen times. So this is his pedigree, okay?

• 47:20Speaker 02

  No pressure.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  He says, quote, "This is a very difficult quiz. The easiest questions of this quiz would be final round questions in a hard office trivia tournament."

• 47:31Speaker 06

  God, okay. What are you doing?

• 47:34Speaker 01

  Okay. Question number one. There are 18 toppings that make up the works.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  God damn it, I knew this was gonna happen. I knew this was gonna happen, okay.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  How many can you name?

• 47:47Speaker 02

  All right, caramel drizzle, cotton candy bits. Those, I'm like trying to-

• 47:52Speaker 06

  Is there white chocolate chips?

• 47:53Speaker 01

  There is not white chocolate.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Chocolate chips. Chocolate chips?

• 47:56Speaker 06

  Failing already.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Is chocolate chips even in there?

• 47:58Speaker 01

  Yes, you have cotton candy bits, chocolate chip.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  Okay, wait, chocolate chip.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  Will said, "For a mild amount of respect, please name five."

• 48:07Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  You got this. I'm gonna give you a hint, you have danced around a few of the words.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  Chocolate. Chocolate. Chocolate.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  Yes. Chocolate, white chocolate.

• 48:18Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:19Speaker 06

  Oh, okay.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Caramel drizzle, cotton candy bits.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  Caramel, wait, no.

• 48:25Speaker 02

  Caramel dip, thank you, what the hell?

• 48:26Speaker 06

  Wait, there is a dr- is there not a drizzle?

• 48:28Speaker 02

  There is a drizzle. There's a drizzle. I'm hearing the drizzle, I'm hearing the drizzle.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  You definitely have named four.

• 48:35Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  You have to name one more to get the point.

• 48:39Speaker 06

  Sprinkles, no?

• 48:41Speaker 00

  Sprinkles, yes.

• 48:41Speaker 02

  Sprinkles is one.

• 48:44Speaker 00

  Okay, so you got five.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  Do you wanna hear it? We have the audio.

• 48:47Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, okay, wait.

• 48:49Speaker 00

  Are you trying to get more? I think five is respectable.

• 48:52Speaker 02

  Angela, I need silence.

• 48:54Speaker 00

  Okay, okay.

• 48:56Speaker 02

  Hold on. Is there cinnamon?

• 49:00Speaker 02

  Sugar?

• 49:00Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  Okay, cinnamon sugar, okay.

• 49:03Speaker 00

  That's my favorite.

• 49:04Speaker 02

  Cinnamon sugar is really good on a pretzel.

• 49:05Speaker 06

  Billy, are you attempting to go for all of them?

• 49:07Speaker 01

  How many are there? There's 18.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  Are there nuts?

• 49:11Speaker 00

  Yes, nuts is one.

• 49:13Speaker 06

  Oh, nuts. There's no powdered sugar, is there?

• 49:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Yes, there is.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  That's the last one.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  I think that is the last one, and powdered sugar, remember?

• 49:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, yep, that is.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Okay, you, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  That's pretty good.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  I'm gonna play the audio clip, here it is, everybody.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  Hi, please tell me you have a sweet pretzel left.

• 49:34Speaker 07

  We do. And we have 18 different toppings. We have sweet glaze, cinnamon sugar, chocolate, white chocolate, fudge, M&M's, caramel dip, mint chip, chocolate chip, marshmallows, nuts, toffee nuts, coconut, peanut butter drizzle, Oreos, sprinkles, cotton candy bits, and powdered sugar.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Is there any way that you could do all, all of them?

• 49:52Speaker 07

  The works, you got it.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  All right, thank you.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Peanut butter drizzle? Peanut butter drizzle. The works, you got it.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  All right, do you want me to continue?

• 50:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  With this quiz?

• 50:05Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  Okay, question number two. Can you name all of the candy bars that Michael references in his business school lecture?

• 50:14Speaker 06

  Payday.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 50:15Speaker 06

  Hundred grand.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 50:17Speaker 06

  Snickers?

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  I'm gonna let him do this one.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  There's one more.

• 50:21Speaker 06

  You know it Billy, right? You must know it.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Wait, there's one more.

• 50:24Speaker 06

  Who, who's it, what's it?

• 50:26Speaker 01

  You're so close.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  A thingamajig.

• 50:29Speaker 06

  What you might call it?

• 50:30Speaker 02

  What's it?

• 50:31Speaker 06

  What you might call it?

• 50:32Speaker 01

  What you might call it?

• 50:34Speaker 02

  You got it, you got it.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Okay, when Creed is the interim manager, he calls a meeting where he splits the office into two groups for team building.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  Elroy?

• 50:44Speaker 01

  Which Dunder Mifflin employee is somehow listed in both groups? And which person named does not actually work there?

• 50:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  Elroy.

• 50:54Speaker 02

  Elroy.

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Does not work there.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  Doesn't exist.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  Um, but there's one person who's listed in both groups.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. So he names Phyllis.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  That's it. Oh.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  Phyllis and Elroy. Cause he says Elroy. Elroy. So that's the answer. I did not know about it.

• 51:12Speaker 01

  Okay, do you want more?

• 51:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 51:15Speaker 06

  So fun.

• 51:15Speaker 02

  I want everything. And then we can do a speed round of the normal game. Okay. And get every single question and then feel a little better about ourselves.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  I like that. When Pam and Andy are stuck working together, they visit an office park to attempt some in-person business acquisitions.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  I don't know how you would know this, but what company conducts business in Suite 202?

• 51:36Speaker 00

  My gosh.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Dean Trophies, Suite 202. Oh, wait, Dean.

• 51:39Speaker 06

  Sherman Blinds and Rocks.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Sherman Blinds and Rocks, Suite 202.

• 51:46Speaker 06

  You wouldn't have got it if we didn't sing it. That was so good.

• 51:48Speaker 02

  That was great. And then there's like a Dean Trophies, Suite 100 and Doodly Do, or something like that.

• 51:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  Doodly Do.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  That sounds like Andy.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  And then Suite 401.

• 52:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Besides the United States, where Dwight would originally steal the Tiffany chandelier, what are the four other countries involved in this heist?

• 52:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 52:13Speaker 06

  Canada is one, right?

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Mexico?

• 52:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. France, yes.

• 52:17Speaker 02

  France.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  You only need one more.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  Is it somewhere random?

• 52:22Speaker 01

  No, it's somewhere that might be part of Dwight's family of origin.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Oh, that's a huge hint. Germany?

• 52:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. Jenna gave me that one.

• 52:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 05

  What is my perfect crime? I break into Tiffany's in midnight. Do I go for the vault? No, I go for the chandelier.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  It's priceless.

• 52:41Speaker 05

  As I'm taking it down, a woman catches me. She tells me to stop.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  It's her father's business. She's Tiffany.

• 52:46Speaker 05

  I say, no.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  We make love all night.

• 52:49Speaker 05

  In the morning, the cops come and I escape in one of their uniforms. I tell her to meet me in Mexico, but I go to Canada.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  I don't trust her.

• 52:56Speaker 05

  Besides.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  I like the cold.

• 52:58Speaker 05

  Thirty years later, I get a postcard. I have a son.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  And he's the chief of police.

• 53:02Speaker 05

  This is where the story gets interesting. I tell Tiffany to meet me in Paris by the Trocadéro. She's been waiting for me all these years. She's never taken another lover. I don't care. I don't show up. I go to Berlin.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  That's where I stash the chandelier.

• 53:15Speaker 06

  Oh, Berlin.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Berlin. That's why these are like final questions. Because he says Paris and Berlin. He doesn't say France and Germany, but he says Mexico and Canada.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 53:26Speaker 00

  They ask for countries. See, they're tricky.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  They are tricky. To give us some credit, Jack, these are questions in the final round of the final,

• 53:37Speaker 02

  what did you call it?

• 53:38Speaker 00

  National.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  National Office Trivia Championship.

• 53:41Speaker 06

  Underhead.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  Come on, like, we're doing good for that. Over 700 teams have competed to get to this moment.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  I mean, you guys are doing amazing.

• 53:51Speaker 01

  I have a question for you guys.

• 53:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  And this is not trivia. This is just a fun one. This is what we would call our office question of the week. This is from Lena C. in Germany who says, which invention of Michael Scott do you think could actually be successful in real life if you had to pick one? Would you pick shoe la la, chair pants, Toilet Buddy, Mike's Cereal Shack, or Threat Level Midnight, the movie?

• 54:20Speaker 02

  I really like Mike's Cereal Shack. That's very intriguing to me. Also, it's a really cute name.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:27Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:27Speaker 06

  The pants chair. Honestly, I remember watching it being like, this is like 1% a good idea.

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, if there was a way to make the chair pants, like, not uncomfortable to walk around in.

• 54:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  Where it was like totally normal pants.

• 54:45Speaker 00

  Slowly.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  But then if you sat down, it became a chair, you know?

• 54:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, as a parent who is often going to, like, kids' sporting events.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, and wishing they were sitting.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Where there isn't a chair. If I could just wear my chair pants.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, right?

• 55:02Speaker 01

  Really, you guys, I am surprised no one has chosen Toilet Buddy. You don't want to go to the bathroom through a strainer?

• 55:09Speaker 02

  I think there's...

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Just so your stuff doesn't fall in. That is one of my favorite Michael moments. It was deleted. It was added back to the superfan episode. You can see it in all its glory.

• 55:22Speaker 02

  Is there anything else, Jack, that we need to do in terms of trivia?

• 55:25Speaker 00

  Do you want three rapid fire?

• 55:27Speaker 02

  Okay, three rapid fire. Let's go.

• 55:29Speaker 00

  Easy.

• 55:29Speaker 06

  This is the most fun thing ever, so yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. This is three rapid fire. Ready?

• 55:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 55:34Speaker 00

  On the wall of Mr. Chu's Chinese restaurant, who was in a photo holding up a sign that said thief?

• 55:39Speaker 06

  Breed.

• 55:40Speaker 00

  Yep. Who did Dwight think takes 15 minutes to?

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Style his hair? Jim?

• 55:45Speaker 00

  Yes. Thank you. Sorry, I couldn't even read the question. All right, one more. Who was only a little stitious?

• 55:51Speaker 02

  Michael.

• 55:52Speaker 06

  Michael.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  Michael.

• 55:54Speaker 01

  Yay.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Can't get enough.

• 55:57Speaker 00

  We clearly could do this all damn day because it's so fun.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Jack, love you so much. Thank you for getting on. I literally love you so much.

• 56:04Speaker 06

  Honored to meet you guys. Thanks so much for having me.

• 56:06Speaker 00

  This was really fun. You're amazing at trivia. You guys should enter a competition.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  By the way, he also has a whole song about The Office and how his life has and relationships have just completely been told through the story of The Office throughout his life. And it's out and you can listen to it.

• 56:26Speaker 00

  What is the name of this song? What is the name of the song?

• 56:29Speaker 06

  Oh, Netflix Trip.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  I know it. I know that song.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  I think you guys have actually talked about it.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  We've talked about it. We played it on the podcast.

• 56:36Speaker 06

  Oh, did you really?

• 56:37Speaker 01

  I think I played it. Yeah.

• 56:38Speaker 00

  That's you?

• 56:39Speaker 01

  That's you?

• 56:40Speaker 06

  Me and my brothers. Yeah, yeah.

• 56:41Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. Yes, it's so wonderful. I like...

• 56:45Speaker 06

  Oh, my God.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  I want to play some of it.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:48Speaker 06

  Aw.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  So sweet. Yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 00

  Thank you guys so much.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Thank you so much. And that's awesome. You guys have both written songs.

• 57:36Speaker 00

  It's true.

• 57:37Speaker 01

  With The Office.

• 57:38Speaker 00

  It's true.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  In them.

• 57:39Speaker 00

  The Office themes. That's kind of...

• 57:40Speaker 02

  We wouldn't be who we are without the show.

• 57:41Speaker 01

  Kind of pretty cool.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 57:43Speaker 00

  Well...

• 57:44Speaker 02

  We wouldn't be friends without The Office. It bonded us.

• 57:47Speaker 00

  Well, listen, we always are humbled by the fact that our show brings people together. And I know you feel that way about your music, both of you. And thank you so much for taking the time to come here today.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  We love you guys.

• 57:57Speaker 00

  We love you. We want you to come back anytime you want, for real.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  No, seriously, you have to stop saying that because you don't want me to come back so many, because I'm gonna literally...

• 58:05Speaker 01

  You know what you should do? You tell us an episode that you want to break down.

• 58:09Speaker 00

  With us.

• 58:10Speaker 01

  And we'll break down an episode with you.

• 58:11Speaker 00

  Pick a superfan.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  Oh my God, done. Literally done. Let's do it.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, there we go.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  All right.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  Thank you for coming.

• 58:19Speaker 00

  Thank you, guys. Bye.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 58:24Speaker 00

  I know.

• 58:25Speaker 01

  I still can't believe it happened. I still can't get over the fact that she is such a big Office Ladies fan.

• 58:32Speaker 00

  She's also just a wonderful human being.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:36Speaker 00

  And such a fun person to be around. And just gives her all to you.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  I know. I just, I really like her as a person.

• 58:44Speaker 00

  As a person, yes.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, she is so accomplished and so talented, but she's also just a fantastic human being.

• 58:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, and super smart. Oh, and I really loved her dog, Shark. He tried to eat the granola bar in my bag.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  [laughing]

• 58:56Speaker 00

  But next time, I'll bring treats. Okay, Billie, when you come back, we're gonna have treats for Shark.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  I also want to give a big thank you to Will Allen for helping me prepare our Office Trivia quiz. And I want to give a shout out because Will is currently starring as Dr. Thomas Stockman in Amy Herzog's adaptation of "An Enemy of the People" at the stunning new Timeline Theater in Chicago. You can get tickets at timelinetheater.com. I saw this in New York. It's a great show.

• 59:25Speaker 00

  And also, we would love to thank Jack Metzger for calling in to do trivia with Billie. And that was so cool to find out that he wrote the song "Netflix Trip" about his love of the Office.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  I know. I couldn't believe that. I'm like, I know that song.

• 59:38Speaker 00

  You're like, it's you. And oh my goodness, thank you so much to Billie Eilish for being an Office Ladies listener and fan.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  I hope you like this episode, Billie. Hi.

• 59:49Speaker 00

  Hi, Billie.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  How are you doing?

• 59:51Speaker 00

  Are you listening to us right now? Are you in your house, maybe hanging some pictures?

• 59:54Speaker 01

  I know. Are you cleaning up something, maybe folding laundry?

• 59:57Speaker 00

  Maybe you're just in the car, queuing around.

• 59:59Speaker 01

  We don't know. Yeah. All right. Thanks, everyone. We will be back next week with a very special guest from the Office cast. We're gonna be chatting with Calvin Tenner, who played Glenn from The Warehouse.

• 1:00:10Speaker 00

  All right. See you then.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  See you then.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

• 1:00:17Speaker 00

  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  Our senior producer is Matt Beagle and our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

• 1:00:27Speaker 00

  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

• 1:00:33Speaker 00

  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.