Second Drink: Broke

This week we’re breaking down “Broke”. The Michael Scott Paper Company is struggling to stay in business after Ryan made a serious accounting error. Meanwhile, Dunder Mifflin has taken a hit from all the customers they lost to the Michael Scott Paper Company, so with the help of Jim, Dunder Mifflin decides to buy out the Michael Scott Paper Company while not knowing that’s exactly what Pam, Michael and Ryan want. This is the first “Office” episode directed by Steve Carell. The ladies help a fan clarify what Michael yells when pranking Ryan, Jenna explains fixed-costs vs variable-costs and Angela shares a deleted scene about Charles Miner that will make you gasp! So enjoy this episode because well, well, well, oh how the turn tables. Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

• 0:02Speaker 00

  Hello and welcome to your second drink of season five, episode 25, Broke, directed by Steve Carell.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  Yes, Jenna, you did a whole fast fact about Steve directing. And I have a question for you.

• 0:16Speaker 00

  What?

• 0:17Speaker 01

  Now that you haven't done any fast facts in a while, do you miss the fast facts?

• 0:23Speaker 00

  No, no, I do not miss them, but I do not hate them.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  I mean, you enjoy doing them.

• 0:33Speaker 00

  For a while.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  A handful of years.

• 0:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:36Speaker 01

  And then it was a grind.

• 0:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. And when I revisit our breakdowns, I am really proud of them. I'm really glad I did them, but I am no longer triggered by the term fast fact. So I am making some progress.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  So if I just called you and left on your voicemail, fast fact?

• 0:51Speaker 00

  No, that might do me in.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  Okay, all right.

• 0:53Speaker 00

  Don't do that.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, I thought all three of your fast facts for this episode were fantastic. One of them was about Dunkin' Donuts because Michael says, "Time to make the donuts." And we got this letter from Amanda G, who said, "Hey ladies, I was just listening to the Broke episode and your fast fact about donuts made me reach out. My husband is a donut maker, AKA the donut daddy, and he has a small, independent donut shop here in Virginia. He helped open with a friend. He is just like the Dunkin' Donuts spokesman, Michael Vale. He usually is in bed by 6:00 PM and he's out the door between 11:00 PM and 1:00 AM."

• 1:33Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  I know. His usual day is a 2:00 AM to 7:00 AM. He has his own donut mix he worked on and he comes up with crazy toppings and flavors, et cetera. He has been making donuts for the last few years and found his passion. He is such a hardworking, caring person and I love him so much. So if you find yourself on your food tour, driving through Virginia, stop into The Daily Fix and New Kent. Donuts, breakfast, Sammies and burgers. We would love to see y'all. I love the show and also a huge Office fan. Keep up the great work, ladies. You're amazing.

• 2:07Speaker 00

  Aww.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:09Speaker 00

  Do you know what those hours made me think of besides making donuts?

• 2:12Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:13Speaker 00

  Is all the people who do like the Today Show. How I think they get up at like 3:00 AM and they go into work and they're live on the air at the crack of dawn and then their whole day is done by 10:00 AM.

• 2:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Think also about the hair and makeup teams and the crew that get there before the on-camera people. Their day must start at like 2:00 in the morning.

• 2:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I remember talking to someone about how they would go to bed around like 6:00 or 7:00 PM. But then my question is, well, what about like when I see them out at events? Like evening events, charity events? How do they do it? I can barely make it to an event that starts at 7:00, let alone if I have to get up at 2:00 AM.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  I...

• 3:00Speaker 00

  How do they do it?

• 3:01Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't want to go to any events anymore.

• 3:04Speaker 00

  I know. You know, event I want is the event that happens on my couch.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  Oh, I love...

• 3:09Speaker 00

  I love that event.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  All events on my back porch make me so happy. I will dress up for my back porch.

• 3:16Speaker 00

  Yeah?

• 3:17Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm just saying.

• 3:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:18Speaker 01

  I would do that. I would come downstairs, my commute. Oh, my commute.

• 3:24Speaker 00

  Well, listen, this is a pretty fantastic breakdown overall, lady. And at this point in our breakdowns, I just need to say we had gotten pretty darn good at uncovering information and I could not find much that we did not mention the first time around. But I did find one thing, which is that the original title for this episode was Delivery Day. It wasn't Broke, it was Delivery Day.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Oh, well, I, you know what? I actually think it's good that they changed that because Delivery Day is making me think that someone's having a baby.

• 3:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  Right?

• 3:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  So I think Broke is better.

• 3:57Speaker 00

  Same. A big part of this story is that Michael Scott Paper Company is going broke and in revisiting this episode, it got me wondering about how long it typically takes for a new business to succeed or fail. Oscar is trying to give Michael advice about this outside of the warehouse, give him like a reality check, but I wanted to look into it a little bit. So I did a mini dive for this second drink. What do you think of that?

• 4:24Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm here.

• 4:26Speaker 00

  All right. Well, first of all, there are a lot of different kinds of businesses and they actually all have different projected success/failure rates. So most small businesses take two to three years to become profitable. So Michael is, he needs to be in that zone. I don't think he's thinking two to three years.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  No, he was thinking immediate.

• 4:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:49Speaker 00

  According to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, roughly one in five new businesses close within the first 12 months. Most small businesses fail because of poor cash flow management. Which is exactly the Michael Scott Paper Company's problem.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:06Speaker 00

  Incidentally, according to the internet, one of the most reliable small businesses that almost always turns a profit and is successful? Laundromats.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Huh.

• 5:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, so it's too bad Michael didn't start a laundromat. That would have been more aligned with his expectations.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  I always wonder about parking garages. Now, we live in a big bustling city and, you know, you think about a parking garage like, okay, you're going to draw some lines on some concrete. You know, parking spaces.

• 5:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  You're going to have to pay for the little kiosk and the arm.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, you also have to pay for the whole structure. That's a lot of real estate.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  The rent of the structure.

• 5:47Speaker 00

  So I think you need a lot of upfront money for that, unlike a laundromat.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:52Speaker 00

  Which is a smaller footprint.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  I don't know. Every time I drive past a parking garage, I'm like, bet they're making a lot of money.

• 5:59Speaker 00

  I do. I do find it to be a little bit of a hustle. Don't get me started on having to pay for parking at places like hospitals, which you have to do in Los Angeles, because I will not recover. It'll be a soapbox I don't get off of. Well, put a pin in it.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Put a pin in it. We're going to have a, we call BS on parking, episode. But before we get to our second drink, I did want to mention one thing here. In our breakdown, I talked about how there was an alternate cold open of Michael oversleeping and rushing into the office late. It's very funny and they added it back into the superfan version. In fact, the superfan version of Broke has eight more minutes of footage, so a lot got added back.

• 6:40Speaker 00

  Yes, I saw that. I actually went to see if I could see the cold open you mentioned and it's very funny for anyone who wants to check it out.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  All right, you guys. Well, here is our second drink of Broke.

• 6:55Speaker 00

  I'm Jenna Fisher.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  And I'm Angela Kinsey.

• 6:58Speaker 00

  We were on The Office together.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  And we're best friends.

• 7:00Speaker 00

  And now we're doing the ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

• 7:11Speaker 00

  We're The Office, ladies.

• 7:15Speaker 00

  Hello, everybody.

• 7:17Speaker 01

  Good morning, everyone. I always say good morning.

• 7:20Speaker 00

  It's because we're here in the morning.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  Because we're here in the morning. Every time I do it, Jenna gives me this look like, Angela, it might not be morning for everyone else.

• 7:29Speaker 00

  Don't stop.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  Don't stop saying good morning.

• 7:32Speaker 00

  Should we talk about the episode we're going to be breaking down today?

• 7:36Speaker 01

  I would love nothing more. I found this episode hilarious.

• 7:40Speaker 00

  This snuck up on me.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  Yes, it was a sneaker upper.

• 7:43Speaker 00

  I absolutely loved it. You know, you look back and you think about The Office and all the like sort of obvious ones come to mind.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:51Speaker 00

  But this is so incredibly good. It should be on all the lists.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  It should. And there was more to it that didn't make it in. That is so delicious and I can't wait to share that.

• 8:03Speaker 00

  What we're talking about is Broke. Season five, episode 25, written by Charlie Grandy and directed by our very own Steve Carell.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  How fun was that?

• 8:15Speaker 00

  That was amazing. That is my fast fact number one.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Ooh, do it.

• 8:19Speaker 00

  But we should start with a summary.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Oh, we should.

• 8:20Speaker 00

  I need my order.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  Go in order.

• 8:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 8:23Speaker 01

  I need to say good morning. You need to go in order.

• 8:25Speaker 00

  It's who we are.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  It's who we are.

• 8:28Speaker 00

  All right. The summary is, exhausted from making their own deliveries, the Michael Scott Paper Company is steadily gaining clients due to their very low prices, but it turns out they're going broke in the process.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:43Speaker 00

  Meanwhile, Dunder Mifflin is desperate to negotiate a buyout because they have lost several important clients to Michael Scott Paper Company. But Michael has other ideas.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  I was so impressed and also scared by all of Michael's tactics.

• 8:59Speaker 00

  When he gets out of the elevator and he's like doubled over and he's like, I'm really afraid I'm gonna say.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna be able to do it.

• 9:07Speaker 00

  So funny. All right. Fast fact number one, Steve Carell directed this episode. It was his first time directing the show and his first time directing in general.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  He was so prepared.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. Yes.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  I was so impressed with him.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  We talked to Randy Cordray about that and he said Steve's work ethic was incredible, that he was totally prepared. He had great ideas, great energy. He said he was so respectful of every crew position. He wanted everyone's input to make the scenes better. He said Steve totally immersed himself in the prep of this episode.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  I loved him as a director. I have one little moment I'll share when we get there of a note he gave me that I was like, totally changed the scene for me.

• 9:59Speaker 00

  Well, I traded some messages with Steve about this episode. I just wanted to know, Steve, what was that like for you to direct all of us? Cause he was, I believe, the first cast member to step into a directing role.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I think you're right.

• 10:14Speaker 00

  And here's what Steve said. This is a quote, "It was like being the conductor of a world-class orchestra. Everyone was so good. It was pretty easy."

• 10:23Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 10:24Speaker 00

  Well, we got a fan question from Bridget R. who said, "What was it like having a main cast member direct and did it present any challenges?" Well, a little bit because, you know, Steve couldn't watch the scene when he was performing in the scene.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 10:45Speaker 00

  And the week before you direct an episode, the director normally preps the episode and that sort of involves meeting with each of the different department heads to make decisions about the locations, about the props, the wardrobe, camera setups. And this was a little tricky for Steve because Steve spent the prior week acting in an episode.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  I remember he had to sort of squeeze things in, like he'd be in a scene and then he would have to like hop onto like a van to go location scout or.

• 11:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:18Speaker 00

  Randy said luckily, the Michael Scott Paper Company storyline was such that Steve generally had a couple of days off each week.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 00

  For when we would shoot up at Dunder Mifflin. And so he immersed himself in prep for those two days. But it's true. I would notice there would be this van waiting outside at lunch and they would go scout a location for a half hour.

• 11:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then he'd come back and jump into scenes.

• 11:44Speaker 00

  Well, I also spoke with Randall Einhorn, our cinematographer, who said he remembers Steve was very focused on characters and actor performance as a director. So I guess this will come up in the note that he gave you, Angela.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:00Speaker 00

  But he said he was just so respectful. He was so devoid of any ego. And that's how I remember working with Steve. He just made you better naturally.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  He's just someone that makes everything better.

• 12:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  You know, you know, those people, you're like, gosh, I feel so great whenever I'm around them.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  I took this leadership seminar once and they said that a great leader is a person where like you leave your interaction with that person and you feel more confident and better and you notice yourself more, that that is your goal. If you're ever in a leadership position, not for you to show off how interesting and powerful you are.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  But to try to empower other people.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Well, that's definitely Steve.

• 12:53Speaker 00

  That's definitely Steve. Guys, yeah, I'm that person who went to leadership seminars on the weekends.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  I wasn't gonna say anything.

• 13:00Speaker 00

  I'm that gal.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  I wasn't gonna say anything, but.

• 13:03Speaker 00

  Sign me up.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  As you said it, I thought, oh, I would have just loved to have known Jenna then. I saw this thing someone posted on Instagram, Jenna, it made me laugh so hard. I'm going to paraphrase it, but it said something like, "Everyone in life deserves the person they cannot sit next to in a serious situation." And I just think about if I had taken that leadership class with you, we wouldn't have been able to sit next to each other.

• 13:29Speaker 00

  Listen, that leadership class was great because I had a really hard time finishing things. I would start projects all the time.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  Scripts, a one-woman show. I don't even know what, even a home project. I was very good at having ideas.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:46Speaker 00

  And doing the first three steps, but I wasn't a finisher. And this leadership seminar was a little bit focused on finishing what you start. I tell you what, I finish what I start now.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  That's so good.

• 13:59Speaker 00

  I'm all about it. I'm like, there's gotta be experts out there who can teach me skills. How was I supposed to be born knowing how to do everything? I'll go to therapy. I'll go to your leadership seminar. Sign me up. All right. Fast fact number two is called awards because our writer, Charlie Grandy, was nominated for a Writers Guild Award for Best Screenplay of an episodic comedy for this script. And Steve Carell used this episode as his submission for the Emmys for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Well, I know Steve didn't win, which remember I was so mad about. I think I said a profanity and there was a camera on us.

• 14:43Speaker 00

  Steve never won an Emmy for his portrayal of Michael Scott. How is that sentence a thing I can say?

• 14:48Speaker 01

  I don't know. Wait, did Charlie win?

• 14:50Speaker 00

  Charlie didn't win either.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Well, so never.

• 14:52Speaker 00

  I know. You know, it's crazy. That got me thinking about how you have to submit yourself for awards. I feel like that's something not a lot of people know.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  We did.

• 15:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it costs money.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 15:04Speaker 00

  Sometimes the network will pay for it.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 15:08Speaker 00

  But I think as an actor, you pick one or two episodes that you think best represent your performance. You also pick your category. You can decide if you want to be submitted for lead or supporting.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  I know. I was very excited because season four of The Office, there was an article that said I was a dark horse for a nomination for supporting actress in a comedy because I had that whole great, you know, arc with sprinkles and all of that.

• 15:37Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  And I was so excited. That was enough for me. I mean, I realized that like some people were able to have sort of a big machine behind them campaigning, but just the fact that this one person saw my performance, I cut out the magazine. I saved it.

• 15:53Speaker 00

  I totally get that, Ange. I was only nominated the one year for season two.

• 15:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:59Speaker 00

  And occasionally though, my name would come up on those lists.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  Yes, it's so exciting.

• 16:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  What's your fast fact number three?

• 16:07Speaker 00

  Fast fact number three is called Time to Make the Donuts.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Do I get a donut? Did you make donuts?

• 16:13Speaker 00

  No, I wish I had though. I know you love a donut.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  I do.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  I should have known. I can't say donut and not provide you with a donut.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  You literally said, "It's time to make the donuts."

• 16:23Speaker 00

  Oh, no. This is not a Scotch and Splenda.

• 16:27Speaker 01

  I know. You got me thinking. It's a Scotch and Splenda moment.

• 16:31Speaker 00

  No, this is a little mini deep dive that I found incredibly charming based on the fact that Michael says it's time to make the donuts.

• 16:40Speaker 01

  Oh, the expression.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  Yes. Do you remember that commercial? It was from the eighties. It actually ran from 1981 all the way to 1997 and it was for Dunkin' Donuts. Do you remember it?

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Well, I was overseas until 84.

• 16:57Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  This, by the way, is a thing my husband loves to tease me about. He said, Ange, you can't say you were in Indonesia for everything. Okay?

• 17:07Speaker 00

  But there's some pop culture that's lost on you.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:10Speaker 00

  Okay, well.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  Cause I grew up without television. Is that crazy? Until I was a teenager.

• 17:15Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  I know.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  And then you wound up on television.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  And then I was obsessed with television.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  I bet.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  It's like the kid that like their parents don't let them have any sweets and then they come to your house and they raid your pantry.

• 17:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  I became like obsessed with television.

• 17:31Speaker 00

  Well, let me bring you up to speed.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:33Speaker 00

  Fred the Baker was a character played by actor Michael Vale in these Dunkin' Donut commercials.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:41Speaker 00

  And he was known for his catchphrase, "Time to make the donuts." So it would just be him like all day coming in and out of his door saying, "Time to make the donuts." I actually have an audio clip of it.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Oh, I need to hear it.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Time to make the donuts. Dunkin' Donuts are always fresh. I made the donuts. We make them at least twice every day. Time to make the donuts. Not a few kinds like supermarkets. I made the donuts. Time to make the donuts. But up to 52 varieties. The donuts.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Time to make the donuts. I made the donuts. Dunkin' Donuts, up to 52 varieties, fresh.

• 18:22Speaker 00

  Day and night. No supermarket can say that. So Fred the Baker had to make all those donuts, lady.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  I have so many questions because I could only hear it and not see it. It sounds like he's getting really tired.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  He's tired. He's making donuts in the rain.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Time to make the donuts.

• 18:36Speaker 00

  Because he's always making the donuts.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:39Speaker 00

  Well, this commercial was named one of the five best commercials of the eighties by the Television Bureau of Advertising. Fred the Baker was so popular that when Dunkin' Donuts decided to finally retire this character, they surveyed customers to see how they might react. Well, customers said they would let Fred retire, but only if like Fred, the character was treated like an honored friend and employee. So Dunkin' Donuts created an official retirement celebration for him, which included a parade in Boston and a free donut day.

• 19:20Speaker 00

  They served over 6 million customers. It was September 22nd, 1997.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 19:27Speaker 00

  But listen to this. After the actor who played Fred the Baker, after Michael Vale died in December of 2005, Dunkin' Donuts ran a commercial celebrating him that included like an in memory of. And today, the catchphrase "time to make the donuts" is printed on the side of all Dunkin' Donut boxes in memory of Michael and his character of Fred the Baker.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  Aww.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  So if you get a box of Dunkin' Donuts and you see that on the side, that's why.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  That's so sweet. You know, I think Dunkin' Donuts was more of an East Coast chain for a long time. Because I, I know whenever I flew to New York, I got very excited because there was a Dunkin' Donuts by baggage claim. And I would always go get a donut while I waited for my suitcase.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had Dunkin' Donuts in St. Louis growing up and my dad would go every Sunday and I always wanted that strawberry iced.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  I love that one.

• 20:25Speaker 00

  That was my favorite.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  I love that one too.

• 20:28Speaker 00

  Now during the office, there was no Dunkin' Donuts on the West Coast. And John Krasinski had this idea that he wanted to open up the first Dunkin' Donuts in LA.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  Did he really?

• 20:42Speaker 00

  Yes. He was really into this for a while and he tried to get Conan O'Brien to go in on it with him.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  This was a whole thing.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Could you imagine if Conan and John owned a Dunkin' Donuts?

• 20:53Speaker 00

  That was the plan. And I don't know why it fell apart or if this was just like a daydream, but he talked about it all the time. He wanted to open a Dunkin' Donuts franchise in LA. And you know what? Now they're here. And whenever I pass by them, I wonder, is John like super pissed? Because he had that idea. That was John Krasinski's idea.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  To bring it to the West Coast.

• 21:16Speaker 00

  Yes. Well, that's all I got for Fast Facts, lady.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Well, I found them delightful and now I want a donut.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  Sorry, I really should have brought some Dunkin' Donuts in. Clearly. What was I thinking?

• 21:29Speaker 01

  I think we should go to break and we'll come back and get into this episode.

• 21:31Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 21:41Speaker 00

  All right, we're back. This episode opens with Pam, Michael and Ryan making paper deliveries.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:49Speaker 00

  And incidentally, I found out the working title for this episode was Delivery Day.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yes. Thank you, Randy, with those nuggets. Well, you know what? Michael starts the day at 4:30 in the morning with a prank. He pulls up to get Ryan and then as Ryan gets in, he pulls up forward and he pulls forward and Ryan's just like, ugh, Jenna, that would drive me crazy.

• 22:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  I don't need people that peppy that early.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  No.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  It's too peppy.

• 22:16Speaker 00

  We got a fan question from Tyler B, who said this. "My friend and I have watched the opening scene with Michael inching the delivery van forward while Ryan tries to get in over and over. At 46 seconds, we cannot figure out if Michael says, 'I lied' or 'denied' to Ryan."

• 22:36Speaker 01

  It's denied.

• 22:38Speaker 00

  He says, "The captions say denied, but I'm not convinced because it almost sounds like delied. Do you know?"

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Well, we had the script. What did it say?

• 22:49Speaker 00

  It was not a scripted moment.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Oh, of course not. Of course they were playing around a little bit.

• 22:54Speaker 00

  I hear, "I lied," but I hear Steve's, Steve has this funny delivery he does sometimes where he like laughs at the beginning of a line.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  And he'll hold out a vowel.

• 23:05Speaker 00

  So I hear, "Duh, I lied," meaning like the duh is like part of his laugh.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  Well, gosh, I just think I need to hear it. I need to hear it. And then I'm going to decide what I hear. And I think we should put a poll in our Office Ladies pod stories.

• 23:18Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 23:21Speaker 00

  Duh, I lied.

• 23:26Speaker 00

  It's, "I lied." He's like, "I lied."

• 23:29Speaker 01

  I gotta, I gotta hear it again. I gotta hear it again.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Duh, I lied.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, it's definitely, "I lied" because he's saying, "I won't do it again."

• 23:41Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  And he's laughing. It's, "I lied." It's not denied. The subtitles are wrong.

• 23:45Speaker 00

  Completely. It's definitely not denied, but it is like, "Duh, I lied."

• 23:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:51Speaker 00

  It's a little laugh.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  It's a little bit of-

• 23:53Speaker 00

  It's a catch at the top.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  It's a little bit of a delied.

• 23:56Speaker 00

  Tyler, I hope that that has helped you guys. We took that on.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  We took it very seriously.

• 24:02Speaker 00

  We did. We did.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Well, then Michael's got to go get Pam. He pulls outside and lays on the horn. Did you ever have a friend like that? I carpooled with a friend in high school who would lay on the horn and my dad was like, "All right, you gotta tell her."

• 24:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  None of that. It's early.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  Yes. That was our carpool. You would go in the person's driveway and you want to just give it like a bup, bup.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  A bup, bup.

• 24:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  Not a bing, bing.

• 24:28Speaker 00

  Exactly. We got a lot of fan mail about these pickup scenes. One person said, "When Michael beeps the horn of the van, you can see the top right corner of the neighbor's light turning on." They really liked that detail. People also wanted to know, "Were these scenes really recorded at 4:30 and 5:00 in the morning?" No, we shot these at night. What we would do is we would shoot all day at the studio and then we would pack up and drive out to these locations to do like the early morning shots. So it was actually just evening. I checked in with Randy to refresh my memory. He said we had to do this over two days because we never wanted to shoot too late into the evening

• 25:11Speaker 00

  because then we'd have to start later the next morning because you have to give the crew and the cast their turnaround.

• 25:17Speaker 01

  And then you guys, that becomes a domino effect. Then every day starts later and later. And then you get into one of those, what we call a Friday day situation.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  Frat day.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  Friday day.

• 25:27Speaker 00

  Frat.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  Friday?

• 25:29Speaker 00

  Frat.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  Frat.

• 25:30Speaker 00

  Like Sat-ter-day, but fra, from Friday. So Frat-ter-day.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Well, I've always called it Friday day because you go F-R-I-D and then you go into Saturday.

• 25:42Speaker 00

  You, I believe, would be the only one who's saying Friday day.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  Everyone else is saying Frat-ter-day?

• 25:49Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. In the biz.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Well, guys, is it any surprise that I've been saying it wrong?

• 25:56Speaker 00

  I guess I could stand corrected, but I feel pretty confident.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  I will be texting a few of our friends when we wrap. All right. Why don't you tell us more about how you shot these scenes? You obviously did, one day was the Ryan pickup and then the next day was like the Pam pickup?

• 26:13Speaker 00

  No.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  What?

• 26:14Speaker 00

  One day was at Michael's condo.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  You know, at the open shot.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 26:19Speaker 00

  The other night, we did both Ryan's house and Jim and Pam's house because the location for Ryan's house was just a few houses down the block from Jim and Pam's house on Calvert Street in Van Nuys.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  And the people who lived next to the house that we used for Jim and Pam's house, let us put a PA up in their bedroom.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  To flip on the light switch.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  On the light. They were very good sports, Randy said. And that's not all. Angela, I also got a ton of fan questions about the van because Pam has that talking head where she says they got it at a used car lot and they think that it says "Alleluia Church of Scranton" in Korean on the side of the van. People wanted to know, what did it really say? It said, "Alleluia Church of Scranton" in Korean. Our graphics artist, Michael Marcus, designed the logo and they had it made into a large like stick-on decal that they put on the side of the van. So it really did say that.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  I love that because I love our show's attention to detail. I have a question for you, Jenna.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 27:22Speaker 01

  In the next beat of this cold open, you're like, gosh, I could really use some coffee. And Michael's like, "Milk and sugar?" And you're like, "Yes, thank you." And you take a big old swig and it's actually milk and sugar. And Michael says he drinks it every morning.

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  What'd you really drink? It was just water. Please say it was just water.

• 27:40Speaker 00

  It was water.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Thank goodness.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  But I really sold it.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  You did.

• 27:44Speaker 00

  When I was rewatching this episode, I watched that moment and I was like, "That's good acting."

• 27:48Speaker 01

  It is good acting because I thought-

• 27:50Speaker 00

  I should put that on my Emmy submission.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  You should. Because when I watched it, I thought, I wonder if Jenna was like, "You can put milk and sugar so I react honestly," or something. If you got kind of method, but you did what I did about running.

• 28:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. I was like-

• 28:03Speaker 01

  You just faked it.

• 28:04Speaker 00

  I'll just fake it.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  Fake it.

• 28:05Speaker 00

  I'm an actor. I can do it.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  You can do it.

• 28:07Speaker 00

  And I did.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  And you sold it.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  So now Pam and Ryan are going to be unloading the paper. And I want to say a few things. Did you notice that I'm wearing a pencil skirt?

• 28:22Speaker 01

  I did.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  Did you see what the boys are wearing?

• 28:24Speaker 01

  I did.

• 28:26Speaker 00

  Pam is wearing a hoodie and sneakers, but a pencil skirt.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  And I think with pantyhose at 4:30 in the morning.

• 28:35Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  To unload paper out of a van.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  Pam.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Our NBC executives.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  Correct. I guess that note about Pam being in a pencil skirt, wow, that really carries. Oh, I want to tell you also in this scene, a woman tries to get on the van.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  And the woman who gets on the bus was played by Clara Soyeong and the person who played the warehouse supervisor, who's with Michael, was played by Isabel Hubman. And I remember both of them were super awesome because we actually shot this really early in the morning.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  This one you did do early.

• 29:14Speaker 00

  We did. We got there, oh my gosh, we were shooting by 6:45.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 29:20Speaker 00

  And so I remember like we were all legitimately tired, but we also got finished really quickly. So it was fun.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Well, you know, Jenna, this was not the original cold open for the episode.

• 29:34Speaker 00

  Really?

• 29:35Speaker 01

  Truly.

• 29:36Speaker 00

  Tell me more.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  I will. Here was the original cold open. This is how the cold open was in the shooting draft. It is the Dunder Mifflin office, parking lot, early morning. We hear a screech in the parking lot. The camera pushes in to find Michael with wet hair frantically parking and sort of running in. And he says, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late, barges into the Dunder Mifflin bullpen, goes right into his office. And he's like, sorry, sorry, sorry, everyone. I'm overslept, totally unexcusable. And he goes in his office and shuts the door. Erin and the rest of the office are very confused. Jim looks to camera and he says, this is a surprise. Michael's almost never late and he hasn't worked here in four weeks.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  And then there's this brief scene between Jim and Michael where Jim says, hey, uh, what are you doing here? And Michael's like, oh, I owe everyone a huge apology. Did anyone notice I was late? And Jim says, I think they're just surprised you came at all. And then this plays out with Charles coming in and Erin going, that's him. Like he's some intruder.

• 30:43Speaker 00

  Right.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  And then Michael realizes he's really embarrassed and he leaves. And Erin's like, was I supposed to stop him? He seemed so confident.

• 30:53Speaker 01

  And then there's this last little moment where Michael goes downstairs to the Michael Scott Paper Company. And he's like, I'm sorry, I'm late, but only Pam is there, but Ryan is late.

• 31:03Speaker 00

  It's so funny. Randy told us that there were a ton of deleted scenes from this episode. And I bet what they did was they cut this cold open and they made what would have been the top of this episode, a cold open.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:20Speaker 00

  Because this is not a standalone cold open. This relates to the rest of the episode. It's, you know, deliveries and Michael Scott Paper Company. And so that's really interesting. They must've had to do that for time to squeeze more stuff in.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  There was a lot in the shooting draft that did not make it in.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  Wow. So as this episode opens, Charles Miner is going to walk into the Dunder Mifflin bullpen and announce that they have now lost 10 clients to Michael Scott Paper Company.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a huge dent in their business.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  It really is. Charles is going to have a talking head where he says he does not know what to do to inspire people. And the camera's going to pull back. You're going to see Dwight hovering over his shoulder. I just want to point out that Dwight is still wearing his long sleeve, white shirts with the sleeves that are too short because you can see his full watch. It is exposed on his wrist. His sleeves are too short. It's official.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  We agree with you, Jenna. We agree. His sleeves are too short.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  Okay, thank you. But before this talking head ends, Angela's going to enter the room to talk about these expense reports.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Yes. And all right, this is the scene I was talking about earlier where Steve gave me a note that changed how I delivered this line. And it was so fun for me to re-watch and remember. Angela comes in and she goes, Charles, I got your memo about the expense reports. Thank you. And Steve was like, what if, almost in Angela's mind, this was like a personal memo to her. Like he sees her, right? He understands how much these expense reports have meant to her over the years and how Michael just never cared about them. So he was like, great note. He was like, Angela, what if this is like personal? So that's why I walked in, I was like, Charles, I got your memo about the expense reports. Thank you. And I sort of touched my chest.

• 33:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Thank you for seeing me. This starts an amazing runner, Jenna, about the expense reports. The whole entire thing got deleted for time and I'm going to share about it. Before I play the first one, I want you to know when Angela leaves the room and Dwight says to Charles, been there, done that. That was not in the script.

• 33:32Speaker 00

  Oh, Rain improvised that?

• 33:34Speaker 01

  Rain improvised that. And then immediately after the scene would have started this expense reports runner. Angela is delighted to be policing people. Here is clip number one.

• 33:47Speaker 03

  Stanley.

• 33:50Speaker 03

  Andrew.

• 33:52Speaker 04

  Rejected? You never had a problem with me expensing cigars before?

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Yes, I did. I just didn't have the power to enforce it. Phyllis, this client you take out to Alfredo's every Saturday night, wouldn't happen to be a refrigeration company, would it? Michael never cared. He said it was a perk of the job. I'm sorry. I get no joy from this.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  All right. So on that line, on that line, I get no joy from this. I turn around and I walk away beaming with the biggest smile. And so I took a screen grab of it. It's hilarious. I'm going to put it in stories. And then right after this, there would have been back to back Phyllis and Angela talking heads. And this is what Angela said in her talking head. She holds up a rejected stamp and says, I bought it for myself for my birthday. I've been waiting for a chance to use it. It came with an approved stamp, which I can't seem to find.

• 34:46Speaker 00

  Amazing.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  And then Phyllis would have had a talking head immediately after that said, that little bitch, get with the program. A free dinner here, a bottle of wine there. Everybody's happy. You take away my perks. See you later, alligator.

• 35:01Speaker 00

  Ooh, Phyllis sass.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  What is that? What's see you later, alligator?

• 35:06Speaker 00

  I'm not sure. I don't, I don't know if you want to find out.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  I know. So there was all this hullabaloo with Angela rejecting everyone's expense reports and it keeps playing out. I'll share more later.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  Well, next up, we're going to go down to the Michael Scott Paper Company where everyone is so tired.

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Well, they've been getting up at 4:30 in the morning every day.

• 35:25Speaker 00

  Ryan thinks they should get a delivery guy. Michael thinks they should just maybe build a loft for Pam in particular.

• 35:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, just bunk up there, Pam.

• 35:34Speaker 00

  Michael's like, yeah, dorm rooms have lofts. And Ryan's like, no, they don't, Michael. But did you have a loft in your dorm? Cause I did.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  No, I had two twin beds in my dorm room.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  My dad built me a loft and I put my bed up high and I put my desk underneath it, just like Michael said.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  Well, I had friends that had that in their bedrooms growing up, but in my college, you had a roommate. Did you not have a roommate?

• 35:58Speaker 00

  I did have a roommate and the

• 35:59Speaker 01

  Your dad built a loft on your side of the, I had a one room dorm room with two twin beds and a little sink in the corner.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. So we had like a Jack and Jill bathroom situation.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I had to go down the hall. I had a little shower caddy.

• 36:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  And I had to walk to a like community shower. I mean, it was a girl's dorm, but you know.

• 36:21Speaker 00

  I'm not going to lie. I kind of picked my college because

• 36:25Speaker 01

  Of the bathrooms?

• 36:25Speaker 00

  Because of the dorm room situation, like slightly. I loved my school. I went to Truman State in rural Missouri. It was amazing. I loved it there. But the dorms at the time, this was a little rare. You had like two bedrooms separated by a bathroom. So it would be four girls sharing one bathroom. But guess what?

• 36:48Speaker 01

  What?

• 36:49Speaker 00

  The dorm room on the other side of our bathroom had an issue. It was like really smelly. Like maybe it smelled like maybe an animal died in the wall.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  Ew, gross.

• 37:02Speaker 00

  It was so gross. So they didn't put anyone in there. So we were just two girls with one bathroom. So it was only two of us, you know, me and my roommate shared. And at first my roommate and I were like, what if we open the window and air it out? We could just make that like a living room. We were all excited. Okay, we tried. We could not get rid of that smell.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Did you report it?

• 37:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. And they could never get rid of the smell. It just stayed empty. Luckily, if you kept the bathroom door shut to that room, it didn't come our way.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  I don't know what happened in there, but

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Well, I

• 37:38Speaker 00

  As a result, we got a pretty private bathroom.

• 37:41Speaker 01

  That's amazing.

• 37:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  I went to Baylor University. I loved my dorm room, Collins, my Collins girls out there. But I shared one room. We had the shower down the hall and my roommate's name was also Angela.

• 37:54Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 37:55Speaker 01

  So everyone in college called me Kinsey.

• 37:58Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  And I still to this day know anyone who knew me in college, because all my messages, like on voicemail, like my husband can always tell. Cause they're like, Kinsey, what's up? No one knew my name was Angela. I think a lot of people just thought my name was Kinsey.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  My roommate, I loved her. Her name was TJ. And she came from such a small town in Iowa that you could just write her name and then the city and state and zip code. You did not have to write her house number or her street.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  That's my hometown, Jenna.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  And she would get mail. I found that so cool that I would write her letters on break. And then we'd come back and be like, did you get it? She'd be like, oh yeah. And I went home with her once to like, you know, visit. And it was amazing. Like she was the coolest.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  That was my hometown. I mean, we didn't have to dial a full phone number, just four digits and you could get anyone in town.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  I know.

• 38:52Speaker 00

  Crazy times. But I guess to wrap that up, I'll just say I had a loft.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  You had a loft. So Michael had a point.

• 38:58Speaker 00

  He did. I want to point out in this scene at three minutes 55 seconds, you can see the latest fish in the fishbowl. It's an all black goldfish. This is going to be the last fish of Michael Scott Paper Company.

• 39:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. Why didn't Michael bring the fish to his office?

• 39:15Speaker 00

  I don't know. That's a really good point, Angela. What happened?

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:19Speaker 00

  Well, Randy told us in real life, this fish went to his assistant Jackie and it lived on her desk for two years. He said the fish kept getting bigger and bigger and they had to get bigger fish bowls to accommodate it. But she took very, very good care of it.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Well, I have appreciated your documentation of the fish.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Every week. I feel like it was your plant.

• 39:42Speaker 00

  It was my plant at reception. It was. Well, it's over. That's your last fish breakdown.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Okay. Back upstairs on Dunder Mifflin, special guest coming in, David Wallace, to check in on things because they keep losing clients. And Charles seems very enamored with David Wallace, wants to impress him.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had a fan catch in this, which delighted me.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  Many people wrote in to say, does Idris Elba break character at 5 minutes 25 seconds? When Kevin says hi to David Wallace?

• 40:18Speaker 01

  I totally saw that too. And he does.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  He does.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  He does.

• 40:21Speaker 00

  Totally. I wondered if that was like an addition because everyone, you know, David is trying to get things going, but people keep interrupting just to say hi.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:32Speaker 00

  And Kevin has this late breaking hello. Very funny. Idris totally broke character.

• 40:38Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 40:39Speaker 00

  If you want to see just a glimmer of the charming man that Idris Elba is, you can see it at 5 minutes 24 seconds because he gets a little smiley twinkle in his eye.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  After Charles greets David Wallace, Jim just watches this whole thing play out. And then there is a cutaway to him in the break room and he's just doing kissy noises.

• 41:01Speaker 01

  Right? Well, that was not in the script. That must have happened on the day. In the script, it's a talking head. And this was Jim's scripted line. So OMG, turns out Charles Miner is a huge kiss ass.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  But I kind of liked that it was just the kissing noise.

• 41:21Speaker 00

  I did too.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Right? He just was like, we know what's happening here.

• 41:24Speaker 00

  Well, David is telling everyone that although Michael Scott Paper Company has stolen some clients, he believes it's just a temporary setback. But this brings on some real Phyllis sass.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 00

  She's like, perhaps if you had returned Michael's phone calls, this would have never happened.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  What you need to know about Phyllis is that she's already pissed off because of the expense reports. So she is not mincing her words.

• 41:53Speaker 00

  And then David is going to invite Jim to join him and Charles in the conference room.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  And Charles is like, hold up, Dwight's been my guy. Jim not living up to his potential. And David's like, I'm surprised by that.

• 42:08Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh, it's so amazing.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  So good.

• 42:11Speaker 00

  And it plays out so well because David says, let's invite them both.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  I think we should take a break because when we come back, I mean, there's some serious accounting issues over at Michael Scott Paper Company.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. It made me laugh out loud. All right, we will take a break.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  We'll be back.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  Well, we are back and the Michael Scott Paper Company has decided to go speak to an accountant to see if they can hire a delivery guy.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  But they can't. Not only can they not afford a delivery guy, they are bleeding money. Their prices are putting them out of business. It's not looking good for Michael Scott Paper Company.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  It's not. It's also not looking great for Ryan because he had calculated all this.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  Yes, but he used a fixed cost formula and he should have used a variable cost formula. He seems a little confused by those terms.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  I looked it up. I wrote up a whole thing about it and I still don't understand it. So.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 43:22Speaker 00

  It, I mean, I think if I think really, really hard, I can get there.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  Okay. Are we going to have to think hard right now?

• 43:28Speaker 00

  I don't know. I mean, I can just skip it. Do we want to think hard or no?

• 43:32Speaker 01

  Well, let's give it a try.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  All right.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  All right, everybody. Ready?

• 43:36Speaker 00

  Variable and fixed costs are the two main types of costs that a company incurs.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 43:43Speaker 00

  Variable costs are volume related.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 43:47Speaker 00

  They vary with the amount of products you're making.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 43:51Speaker 00

  While fixed costs are time related, they stay consistent. It doesn't matter how much stuff you make just to keep the lights on, these are your fixed costs. So for example, your rent on your office space, that isn't going to change month to month. If you make five widgets or 500 widgets, your rent is the same.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Right. But what if you have an employee that gets injured and now you have to file workman's comp? And you're paying all this extra stuff?

• 44:22Speaker 00

  Well, that would go under your variable costs.

• 44:25Speaker 01

  I'm with you.

• 44:26Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh, our brains are working. We're doing it. So the more fixed costs you have, the more revenue your company needs in order to break even. So.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  So that makes sense. The more overhead you have.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  The more you have to make. I mean, Ryan went to business school. He was the vice president of the Northeast region or whatever.

• 44:48Speaker 00

  I know. Now, if you produce 500 widgets.

• 44:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 44:54Speaker 00

  That's going to really offset your fixed cost, right?

• 44:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 44:59Speaker 00

  But if you produce your 500 widgets for not enough money, you're never going to cover your fixed costs.

• 45:06Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 45:07Speaker 00

  And then your variable costs are going to put you out of business as well.

• 45:12Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think we got it.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  Kind of. The point is, they cannot afford.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  The point is.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  A delivery driver.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Ryan's accounting was horrible and they are going out of business because their prices are too low.

• 45:25Speaker 00

  Yes. And all of this information was delivered by a delightful guest star playing the accountant Ty Platt. And that person is Kurt Scholler. He is a seasoned improvisational performer. He's done a ton of television. Angela, I believe you knew him from your improv days.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  I did. Kurt and I were both at I O West. He is so smart and quick and funny. Really talented guy. Again, we were so lucky to get such great guest stars on our show.

• 45:54Speaker 00

  Well, you know, on his computer, when Michael is like crunch those numbers again.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  And he hits a number.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Just one button.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  And nothing changes. Well, nothing could ever change because that was a fakey spreadsheet on the computer. It was made by our graphics designer, Michael Marcus. You know, I said earlier that Michael also made the decal for the side of the van.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:19Speaker 00

  And it just got me thinking, if you are a graphics designer, you can work for a TV show. TV shows have a graphics designer on their team.

• 46:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:29Speaker 00

  That's so cool.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  I know.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  He would make logos and all kinds of things for us when we needed fakey signs and props and things.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  We needed things like that almost weekly.

• 46:39Speaker 00

  Yes. So he would work with Phil Shea to design these things and with Michael Gallenberg, our production designer.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  I have to share with you guys, after the scene, Ryan was going to have a complete meltdown. It's in the deleted scenes. It is so crazy. But it's like Ryan is faced with the fact that A, this new business that he was, I guess, optimistic about is going out of business. But also the fact that he crunched the numbers and he was wrong. And he is actually not very good at being a businessman. And he loses it, Jenna. It's in the deleted scenes on the DVD. He throws those cheese balls. He opens it up and he just starts throwing them everywhere. I am talking everywhere. He dumps the entire container and is yelling. And Michael's just watching it all happen.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  Is Pam there?

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Pam leaves and he starts throwing things. She leaves.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  I don't remember this.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

• 47:34Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  I totally get why this one didn't make it in because it was kind of over the top. Like Ryan trashes their office. Well, what actually made it in the episode is that they just returned. They're very just down in the dumps. And Michael starts calling clients and saying, you know what, actually, we need you to give us more money.

• 47:51Speaker 00

  Could you imagine?

• 47:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  Could you imagine if you bought something from a company and then they called you later in the day and said, will you pay me more for that? Because I'm actually going out of business?

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:02Speaker 00

  That is such a weird phone call.

• 48:04Speaker 01

  I know. And Pam has that great talking head.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  She does. She says, when a child gets behind the wheel of a car and crashes into a tree, you don't blame the kid. You blame the 30 year old woman in the passenger seat who trusted the kid and said, go ahead, drive, kid.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:22Speaker 00

  Something like that. I'm paraphrasing.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. She's like, you got this. You got this, kid.

• 48:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Lady, should we go back up to the conference room for a scene that I couldn't get enough of?

• 48:33Speaker 01

  I enjoyed the scene so much. You guys know that Jenna and I watch these episodes two to four times before we record. This was a highlight every single time. One of my absolute favorite moments in the entire episode is when Dwight suggests, you know, getting all of his Bs and putting the Bs in the office. Watch Idris as Charles turn and just look at Dwight as he's giving his B speech. Everything going across Idris's face of like, holy crap.

• 49:04Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Who have I attached myself to in front of David Wallace?

• 49:08Speaker 00

  I also love the attention to detail in this scene visually. I don't know if you noticed, but Jim and David Wallace are both wearing blue shirts with kind of blue ties. And on the other side of the table, Dwight and Charles both have on kind of like a white or a light yellow, canary yellow.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:32Speaker 00

  Brilliant.

• 49:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:33Speaker 00

  So cool. It's almost like teams. They have on their team colors.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  Also, I noticed in the scene at 8 minutes 56 seconds, a Fiji water bottle.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  I saw that too. And I thought.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  Once again, with the label turned away from camera.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  I was like, what is this?

• 49:52Speaker 00

  What is that? Because it showed up back in Wallace's office. He had a water bottle. Remember my son did the whole water bottle breakdown?

• 49:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, fancy water bottle for David Wallace.

• 50:02Speaker 00

  Randy about it.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  What? Why the Fiji water showing up in scenes all the time?

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Were they giving us money?

• 50:10Speaker 00

  No, the label is not facing camera.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  I know, but everybody knows it's Fiji because they're the square bottle.

• 50:15Speaker 00

  I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  Get to the bottom of it. We haven't seen a lot of Jim and Pam together in this episode.

• 50:22Speaker 00

  Or in any of these episodes.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  I know.

• 50:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Well, they're working at rival paper companies.

• 50:27Speaker 00

  I guess so.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  They do have this great scene in the hallway where Pam tells Jim that they have about a month before they're going to go out of business. And he tells her not to worry, but then his phone starts ringing.

• 50:38Speaker 00

  Yes, I have an audio clip of it. Idiot, idiot. Idiot.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  That's Jim's ringtone.

• 50:47Speaker 00

  Yes. Now, to create the ringtone, they recorded Rain saying idiot.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:54Speaker 00

  And then our post-production supervisor, Jake Ost, put it on a loop. And then our sound engineer actually put a speaker on the set next to us. It was not actually coming from the phone. In post-production, they put a filter on the sound to make it sound like it was coming from the phone. But that was like a whole fakey ringtone thing we had to set up. So nowadays, obviously, you can get customized ring tones for your phones. And you can actually get this ringtone. Over on office tally.com.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  No way.

• 51:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  I love that. Well, when I watched this moment, I started laughing so hard because I remembered years later into the show, Kenneth Paul, who did my makeup, who also did Rain Wilson's makeup, had Rain do like a voice memo and he made that his ringtone. So Kenneth Paul's ringtone was Rain Wilson doing this.

• 51:56Speaker 01

  It was so annoying. And whenever KP's phone would ring, I'd be like, oh, my God, Kenneth Paul.

• 52:06Speaker 00

  Have you ever had a personalized ringtone?

• 52:08Speaker 01

  I haven't.

• 52:09Speaker 00

  Me either.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Maybe we should.

• 52:12Speaker 00

  Should we make it the office ladies theme as our ringtone, or is that too narcissistic?

• 52:17Speaker 01

  Maybe. I was gonna just have Keanu Reeves maybe do my ringtone. Like, you know what? What if?

• 52:23Speaker 00

  I'm fainting with excitement over this idea.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  What if my ringtone is just, surf's up, brah? What if that? Or, or my ringtone could be, I know Kung Fu.

• 52:34Speaker 00

  All I know for certain is that when we're finished recording today, I will be looking up Keanu ring tones.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:42Speaker 00

  This I know for sure.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Okay, where are we?

• 52:45Speaker 00

  We are back down in Michael Scott Paper Company and Michael is on the floor.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  They're so mopey.

• 52:52Speaker 00

  They're so mopey. Michael says he always thought that the day Steve Martin died would be the worst day of his life, but he was wrong because it's this.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  Pam's like, you know, Steve Martin's not dead.

• 53:07Speaker 00

  And he's like, I know. I have to say something.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:10Speaker 00

  Have you watched Steve Martin's new show on Hulu, Only Murders in the Building?

• 53:15Speaker 01

  I haven't, and so many people are telling me to watch it. I know you love it.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  Okay, absolutely loved it. Amy Ryan is on it. She even talked about it on our podcast.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 53:25Speaker 00

  She's so good. You know, the premise of the show is that this guy in their building named Tim Kono has been murdered and these three residents come together to try to solve the crime while doing a podcast about it. In episode two of Only Murders in the Building, this show that Steve Martin is in, that he created, I want you to hear what they say.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:48Speaker 05

  What if Tim was a dick?

• 53:50Speaker 02

  That's a definite angle. I mean, I wouldn't want him to be dickier than Steve Carell in The Office. I'd still care if Steve Carell in The Office got murdered, or would I? Thinking, thinking, visualizing this.

• 54:03Speaker 06

  We need to find someone who knew him.

• 54:04Speaker 00

  How about that for full circle?

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:07Speaker 00

  Pretty amazing.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  So Steve Carell references Steve Martin, and then on Steve Martin's show, they reference Steve Carell.

• 54:13Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 54:14Speaker 01

  I'm like, hey. I think there's, we need to discuss, there's some big revelations that happened in this scene.

• 54:19Speaker 00

  I was gonna say Pam says that she's applied for a job at Target, Old Navy, and Walmart, and none of them even called her in for an interview.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Ryan confesses that he didn't even go to Thailand.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  No, just Fort Lauderdale.

• 54:35Speaker 01

  That is so perfect. I thought that was so brilliant. Of course, Ryan lied about going to Thailand. Of course.

• 54:43Speaker 00

  And this is when Michael pretends that he loves Pad Thai, because Ryan said there was a great Pad Thai place in Fort Lauderdale. But then Ryan's like, you've never had Pad Thai.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Michael's like, I haven't done a lot of things.

• 54:55Speaker 00

  This was a fan catch by Ella W. and Abby W.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  What'd you catch? What'd you catch?

• 55:01Speaker 00

  They said in Diversity Day, Michael wishes aloud that he had some Pad Thai because he loves Pad Thai.

• 55:08Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. Great catch.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  So they wondered, has Michael been telling people that he loves Pad Thai for years and he's still never tried it?

• 55:19Speaker 01

  That's also, it's also believable that he thinks that maybe it makes him seem well-traveled or something.

• 55:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:26Speaker 01

  Right? Jenna, after the scene, the expense report deleted runner would have continued. Andy is determined to get an extension on his expense reports and goes to talk to Angela.

• 55:39Speaker 03

  These expenses are legitimate.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  Which I denied.

• 55:43Speaker 03

  Right. Would you please respectfully reconsider these?

• 55:48Speaker 01

  Why would I do that?

• 55:49Speaker 03

  Because of our history, both romantic and thrice sexual.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  Twice.

• 55:59Speaker 01

  Resubmit with proof of business, names of who you were with, what you talked about, phone numbers I can call to verify. You get a two-hour extension based on our history. Righto. Then we're even. Yeah.

• 56:14Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  I know.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  Scandalous. Scandalous exchange. So yes, Angela's gonna give Andy a two-hour extension.

• 56:26Speaker 00

  What is he gonna do with that?

• 56:28Speaker 01

  You'll see.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm so glad.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  I have the clip.

• 56:32Speaker 00

  I'm glad that pays off. Oh, I'm very sad this runner was deleted.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  I know. It was really fun.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  Now, we're gonna find out that Dunder Mifflin is gonna offer Michael Scott Paper Company a buyout.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 56:46Speaker 00

  So Jim is gonna go into Michael Scott Paper Company and give them this news. And Michael is like, what? Why would they want to do that? We're totally like broke.

• 56:58Speaker 01

  Like, don't, once I hear it, I can't unhear it, so don't say it.

• 57:02Speaker 00

  And so Michael gets it. Steve has another one of those amazing moments where he comes to a realization very slowly. The three of them are gonna go upstairs now to meet. And Ryan and Pam are like, Michael, you cannot say that we are broke. You cannot do it.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  Are we clear? We are not gonna mention that we are broke. And he's like, I got it. I got it. They get in the elevator, the doors open on the next floor, and he's like, I don't got it. I'm not, I can't do it.

• 57:31Speaker 00

  I loved it so much. It made me laugh out loud. That's a whole fakey elevator, as everyone knows. We got in the elevator, the guy with the pulleys.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Pulled the rope.

• 57:40Speaker 00

  Pulled the rope, shut the doors. And then we relocated to a completely different building, to the Dunder Mifflin elevator. And we got out, and it is seamless. It looks so good. Oh, that was funny. And then we walk in, and Michael has his line that I have seen quoted so many times where he says, "Well, well, well, how the turntables."

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Okay, I had to know how that was scripted. So I went to the shooting draft, and that line is not in the script.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. We got a fan question about that.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know if it was pitched on the fly. You know how sometimes writers would have some pitches? Or if Steve improvised it? I don't know. But in the script, this is what it said. "Well, well, well, oh, how the meteor's fallen."

• 58:36Speaker 01

  And I love the turntables so much better.

• 58:39Speaker 00

  Turntables is so funny.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  I know. Because Michael gets all of his phrases slightly off. And Michael, you know what? I can relate to that. And you still sell.

• 58:49Speaker 00

  Friday day.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  Friday day. For years, I've been saying Friday day. I've been saying lots of things.

• 58:56Speaker 00

  I love that when they get into the conference room, Michael immediately rejects their first offer, and he says, just give me your second offer.

• 59:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:05Speaker 00

  And their second offer is a buyout of $12,000.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  Kelly and Angela are trying to eavesdrop, and Kelly has her ear to the door with like a coffee mug. Mindy and I kept laughing.

• 59:17Speaker 00

  That was so funny.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  It was so ridiculous. We're so invested in what Charles is doing. We have to be eavesdropping. And you know, I remember Mindy tried a few different things. In the script, I asked Kelly, what do you hear? And she actually responds and says, the ocean. But in the episode, we have this.

• 59:41Speaker 00

  She was so good at it.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  She was doing Charlie Brown's teacher, right?

• 59:44Speaker 00

  So funny.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  We were tickled.

• 59:46Speaker 00

  Well, Michael is gonna reject this offer of $12,000. And this is when he is a brilliant negotiator.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  I could not believe it.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  Do you see the look on Pam's face?

• 59:58Speaker 01

  I do. Pam is all of us in this moment.

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  Exactly. So he gets David to give them an offer of $60,000.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  Yes, he's like, listen, here's how I see it. You're up for approval by the board. And they're probably not gonna be too happy that you are losing customers to Michael Scott Paper Company. So you actually need me.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  Yes. So they say, we'll give you a moment to discuss it. And now we're gonna have a scene out at Dwight and Jim's desks, but did you notice behind them? No one is in the conference room and the door is open. It's a total continuity catch. Ryan, Michael, and Pam should have been in the background there, and they're not.

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Oh, good catch.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. But Dwight gets this phone call from a client saying that Michael Scott Paper Company called them and asked them for more money, and they'd like to come back to Dunder Mifflin. And Dwight's gonna run into the kitchen and tattle. He's gonna tell Charles, Michael Scott Paper Company is going broke.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  And normally, Charles would take that information from Dwight and go right into action. But Dwight's been acting so strange to Charles all day, and then Jim capitalizes on that.

• 1:01:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, he kind of baits Dwight into bringing out his full weirdo.

• 1:01:18Speaker 00

  By sort of heckling him about his ability to solve cases.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  And Charles is like, you're both morons. Don't go anywhere near the conference room.

• 1:01:27Speaker 00

  Here's what I need to bring up about this scene on a practical level. Did you notice where Charles is standing in this scene?

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  By the counter?

• 1:01:34Speaker 00

  Yes, but very close to the fridge.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:37Speaker 00

  And through the entire scene, he's got his Satacroy steel coffee mug.

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:42Speaker 00

  And he's got a full coffee pot. Each hand is holding one of these items. Why did he walk so far away from the coffee maker to put his coffee in his mug? Because the coffee maker is over by the door that leads to the office. So this man is saddled with these two coffee items. And I'm just like, why did he drift? In my mind, as an actor, I'm having to make up a reason why this happened. So I'm imagining he got the coffee pot and he's starting to pour and he notices something on the fridge. He wants to get a closer look. And then Dwight comes in and he's now stuck with his two coffees. I don't know. It was an odd staging for me and I became distracted.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  I love that like this moment pulled you out for a minute. Like as an actor process, you're like, that makes no sense.

• 1:02:32Speaker 00

  I'm like, I need a reason. I need a motivation.

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  Back in the conference room, Michael says no to this very lucrative offer.

• 1:02:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Pam is like, can we have another minute?

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  And this is when Michael again makes perfect sense. And he says, what we need are jobs. We don't need a buyout. That money's not going to last forever. We need employment and everyone agrees.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  Yes, this is his teach a man to fish moment.

• 1:02:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  So when they come back in, that's what Michael is going to say. You have to hire all of us back. And also in addition to jobs, Michael wants his Sebring again.

• 1:03:10Speaker 01

  And his old parking space.

• 1:03:12Speaker 00

  But Charles says they don't make Sebring's anymore. Is that true?

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  Lady, you know, I had to know.

• 1:03:19Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm so glad you looked this up because I didn't look it up and it has been bothering me.

• 1:03:23Speaker 01

  All right. Charles is wrong. They are still making the Sebring. This episode aired April of 2009. According to the internet, they made the Chrysler Sebring from 1995 to 2010. And in looking up this fact, I ended up watching several Sebring commercials over the years.

• 1:03:45Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  They have made.

• 1:03:46Speaker 00

  You really?

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  I did.

• 1:03:47Speaker 00

  Were invested.

• 1:03:49Speaker 01

  I think I watched half an hour worth of commercials. Um, oh my gosh, they made some really interesting choices in their commercials. But there's one I really needed you to hear. It is from 1995. It's the year the car debuted. Can we please play that Sebring commercial?

• 1:04:07Speaker 07

  The new Chrysler Sebring was built upon something called the Goldilocks principle. It occurred to us that while most luxury cars were too big, most sport coupes were too small. We wanted the Sebring to be, well, just right. It not only has a sporty 24 valve engine and a race inspired suspension, but it also gives you the luxury of an actual backseat. Which means there's enough room for Goldilocks and three or four of her friends.

• 1:04:38Speaker 00

  Okay. I have to say, okay, so Sam is not with us this week. He's on vacation. Jordan is filling in and is like laughing. I can see her.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  Laughing at that commercial.

• 1:04:50Speaker 01

  Thank you, guys. When watching my half an hour of Chrysler commercials for the Sebring, I'd had a glass of wine. And when we got to this one, I literally did a spit take. I was like, what? And the whole time the car is driving through the woods.

• 1:05:04Speaker 00

  Okay. Oh, because of Goldilocks.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  And the three bears.

• 1:05:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 01

  But when they were like, to fit a few of her friends. Who are these people?

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  Jordan doubled over.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, I had to share that. So yes, they still had the Sebring. They could have given Michael a Sebring in April of 2009.

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  By the way, I want to say, you know, my friend Stacy, who I invented the tan baster with?

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:05:28Speaker 00

  She drove a Sebring.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  And it was a lovely car. I have to say it was kind of like, they're right. It was a really nice combination of a sporty coupe, but also roomy.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  But with a comfortable backseat.

• 1:05:43Speaker 00

  I don't know. I never sat in the backseat.

• 1:05:44Speaker 01

  Well, Goldilocks would have been happy with it.

• 1:05:46Speaker 00

  She could have sat back there. Also, since we brought up Jordan, Jordan did our song parody Total Eclipse of the Fart.

• 1:05:54Speaker 01

  Yes, that was Jordan who sang that.

• 1:05:57Speaker 00

  We're very happy to have you. Thank you for filling in for Sam today.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Yes, Sam, I brought cake today, so you missed out on that. I also got it on my sweater as I walked in.

• 1:06:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, I noticed it right away when you walked in and I thought, I don't know, is ketchup or something?

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  You thought I had a messy breakfast.

• 1:06:13Speaker 00

  I guess I did.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  I guess I did.

• 1:06:15Speaker 00

  I thought it was leftover maybe from the last time you wore it.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  Jenna.

• 1:06:19Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  I wouldn't leave food on my hoodie and hang it back up.

• 1:06:24Speaker 00

  If you didn't notice, you might. Have you never not noticed?

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  It's a pretty big mark right on my boob. I love that my husband, though, didn't say a word as I walked out. Josh, come on. All right. So back to this episode. Would you like to hear how the expense report finished?

• 1:06:42Speaker 00

  Yes, please.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Because in the script, this is where it would have wrapped up Angela and Andy, their final scene about the expense report.

• 1:06:52Speaker 06

  And now with no further, riddit, adieu, my revised expense report.

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  The deadline's passed.

• 1:06:58Speaker 06

  What? When?

• 1:06:59Speaker 00

  When you were saying riddit, adieu.

• 1:07:02Speaker 06

  It's riddit, adieu.

• 1:07:04Speaker 00

  I know. I've always been such a fan of it.

• 1:07:09Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  Isn't that so delicious?

• 1:07:14Speaker 00

  I'm really sad that got cut.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  Me too. Oh, and as soon as he was like, I just turned around and I don't look at him anymore and he has to walk away.

• 1:07:24Speaker 00

  Well, I have some news for Angela. This power that she's had is going to go away because Michael, Pam and Ryan get their jobs back.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  That's the buyout. The buyout is that they are all now re-employed by Dunder Mifflin. And I guess is Charles fired? That was never clear to me.

• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  No, I don't think he was fired. I just.

• 1:07:48Speaker 00

  He's going to show up in company picnic again.

• 1:07:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, my understanding, and I reread the script, so sort of what I inferred is that he's just getting reassigned.

• 1:07:57Speaker 00

  Well, he's going to be out of Scranton, obviously. But originally, Michael says, I want him fired. And David's like, I'm not going to do that, Michael.

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, he's a good employee. He's maybe not a good fit right here in the Scranton branch, but he's going to still have his other branches.

• 1:08:12Speaker 00

  To manage.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  To manage.

• 1:08:14Speaker 00

  To oversee.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  That's right. That's how I saw it.

• 1:08:16Speaker 00

  Okay. Because the whole thing kind of ends with Charles trying to say goodbye. But Michael says, no, no, you're done. And that's the same line that Charles said to Michael in two weeks.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:08:30Speaker 00

  So this is some good Michael sass.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, Michael held on to that.

• 1:08:33Speaker 00

  He really did. And then there's this talking head by Michael that kind of ends the episode where he's just sort of wrapping up this whole storyline of having had this paper company. And Randy shared with us that this was added later. It was not in the original script. They even shot it about two weeks after we shot the rest of this episode.

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Do you want to know what was in the original shooting draft?

• 1:08:54Speaker 00

  Yes, please.

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  Well, there were two final goodbyes to Charles that got cut. Any guesses who would want to make sure they said goodbye to Charles, Jenna?

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  Um, I'm imagining it was the ladies who had their ear to the door.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  Who fought over a scarf in the rain? Yes, Angela and Kelly. So in the script, there was this tag. As Charles is leaving, Angela approaches him and she says, it was an honor. And Charles says, okay, then. And he leaves. Dwight looks out the window as Kelly waits for Charles, sitting on the hood of his car sexily.

• 1:09:30Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  As Charles approaches, we see Kelly is sitting on the wrong car. She runs over to Charles, but doesn't get there in time. She bangs on the window as he drives off. Charles talking head. Never sleep with coworkers, man.

• 1:09:45Speaker 00

  What? Wait, what?

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  That's what it ended with.

• 1:09:49Speaker 00

  Wait, coworkers?

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  That's what it said. Never sleep with coworkers, man.

• 1:09:56Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  What the heck? That was the ending to this episode. Angela walks up to him, says it was an honor. Kelly tries to sit on his car before he leaves.

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:10:09Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:10:10Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  I know. I was like, I have to share that.

• 1:10:15Speaker 00

  Okay. Well, listen, I'll have you know that in a very early draft, like one of the earliest outlines for this episode, there was another tag. Now, this one didn't even make it into the shooting draft.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Okay. Cause I don't know about this one.

• 1:10:28Speaker 00

  Listen to this.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  My lady, where did you find this?

• 1:10:30Speaker 00

  Randy Cordray.

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  Oh, Randy.

• 1:10:33Speaker 00

  Here's what it would have been, and I am so bummed that we did not get to do this. You were going to see Pam, Michael and Ryan packing up Michael Scott Paper Company. And before they go, Michael is going to give them each a Scotty, which is the Michael Scott Paper Company version of a Dundee.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  Oh, with a little Scotty dog?

• 1:10:55Speaker 00

  No, no, because Michael Scott.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  I thought, I thought instead of the man with the briefcase, it was a little Scotty dog. I got really excited.

• 1:11:10Speaker 00

  It didn't get far enough to know what the statue would be, but they were going to be called Scotties.

• 1:11:15Speaker 01

  Instead of Dundies.

• 1:11:16Speaker 00

  Instead of Dundies. And Ryan was going to win one that said, "Great Style," and Pam's said, "Boobs."

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  Oh, Michael.

• 1:11:27Speaker 00

  So good.

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

  Pam got a Scotty.

• 1:11:30Speaker 00

  Man, I have my Dundies, both my whitest sneakers and my longest engagement. And I so wish I had a Scotty that said boobs.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  I have my Dundies right next to my Emmy and my SAG Awards.

• 1:11:41Speaker 00

  I'm so jealous you have a real Emmy.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:11:45Speaker 00

  Angela won an Emmy for the webisodes.

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  The accountants. Me and Brian and Oscar won an Emmy, you guys. It was really amazing. But what sits right next to my Emmy that more people want to point out when they come to my house are my two Dundies. Titus Sasse, and she's kind of a bitch.

• 1:12:03Speaker 00

  I've said this before, I am really bummed that I did not win an Emmy for Pam, for Pam. I wanted our gal Pam to win that award. I'll tell you what award Jenna wants to win.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:12:15Speaker 00

  A Tony Award. So my plan, after my kids are grown, I am going to retire in New York City, and I am going to work hard to get myself in a great Broadway show. I'm going to give the performance of my life.

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  I will vote for you, even though I'm not a registered Tony voter.

• 1:12:36Speaker 00

  Thank you. And I want to win a Tony. That's the award I want on my shelf more than any other award.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  I want that for you so desperately.

• 1:12:44Speaker 00

  I hope it can happen.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  I want a Grammy.

• 1:12:47Speaker 00

  Ooh, you aren't a singer.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:12:50Speaker 00

  Oh, I know.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  I want a Grammy because, guys, Jenna and I recently found out that with our book, we'll be doing an audiobook. We're very excited about doing the audiobook. And we found out if you really, really crush it, you can get nominated for a Grammy for your audiobook.

• 1:13:09Speaker 00

  Amy Poehler got nominated for a Grammy for her audiobook. Yes, please.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  That's right. I want a Grammy.

• 1:13:16Speaker 00

  All right, let's get that effing Grammy.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  Let's get the Grammy, then get you your Tony.

• 1:13:21Speaker 00

  We're going to get those awards this year.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  You get an award, and you guys get an award, because you're badasses, and you get an award, and you get an award.

• 1:13:28Speaker 00

  Awards all around.

• 1:13:29Speaker 01

  Awards everywhere.

• 1:13:30Speaker 00

  This was a great episode.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  I'm going to make you a Scotty.

• 1:13:33Speaker 00

  Oh, will you? Is it going to be a Scotty dog? What's it going to be?

• 1:13:37Speaker 01

  It will be my interpretation of what a Scotty would be. And I'm going to make it myself. So get ready for a second grade skillset of art and crafting coming your way.

• 1:13:47Speaker 00

  I will treasure it.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  I'm going to get out my glue gun. I'm not kidding. I'm going to make this myself.

• 1:13:53Speaker 00

  If we gave out awards for our business of Office Ladies, which is actually...

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  I know what it would be called.

• 1:13:59Speaker 00

  Ramblies?

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  Oh, I was going to say...

• 1:14:02Speaker 00

  For our company, Ramble?

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  A lady.

• 1:14:04Speaker 00

  Oh, you get a lady.

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  You get a lady.

• 1:14:06Speaker 00

  Should we give out ladies?

• 1:14:07Speaker 01

  We could give out ladies.

• 1:14:08Speaker 00

  Okay, Cassie and Jordan are nodding yes. We'll give out some ladies.

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  Oh, let's do it.

• 1:14:14Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  All right. You guys, thank you so much for listening. We just love you all. And thank you for sending in your comments and your questions and being here every week with us. We hope you have a great day.

• 1:14:25Speaker 00

  We'll see you next week.

• 1:14:32Speaker 00

  Thank you for listening to Office Ladies Second Drink.

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

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  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey. Our senior producer is Matt Beagle.

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  Our Second Drinks episodes are produced by Molly Nugent.

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  Our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

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  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

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  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

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  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.