Pod Insights Odd Lots Targeting Type 1 Diabetes (Sponsored Content) About this episode Madison Carter is a fearless investigative reporter. She takes no day for granted because she lives with type 1 diabetes (T1D). Dr. Doug Melton is a world-renowned stem cell researcher and distinguished fellow at Vertex – and his now grown children, Sam and Emma, live with T1D. Along with scientists like Dr. Felicia Pagliuca, who leads Vertex’s research into T1D, he’s been on a quest to help Madison, Sam, Emma, and others like them by investigating the disease at a cellular level. Produced by Bloomberg Media Studios and Vertex Pharmaceuticals. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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0:35 Speaker 01 I'm so goal-oriented. I'm always just charging ahead, like we're going to get it done by any means possible.
0:42 Speaker 02 Focused and fearless, that's the best way to describe Madison Carter. Those qualities have helped Madison break a lot of important stories as an award-winning investigative reporter in Atlanta, Georgia. She's investigated white nationalists, political corruption, and the parole system. Those are stories that take a lot of guts to cover, and Madison has done it all without hesitation.
1:03 Speaker 01 People will tell you, I go for everything. I say everything that needs to be said, like I have no fear, like I don't have a lot to lose.
1:10 Speaker 02 That fearlessness comes from a dark place.
1:14 Speaker 01 It's because of my diabetes. I'm like, I could die at any second.
1:23 Speaker 02 Hi, I'm Jordan Gosporay, a member of the University of Southern California's Center for Health Journalism. This is "Targeting the Toughest Diseases", produced by Bloomberg Media Studios and Vertex Pharmaceuticals. In this series, we look at some of humanity's most challenging diseases, and how Vertex, a Boston-based biotech company, is using innovative tools, methods, and a unique philosophy to search for treatments and cures. Today, we're targeting type 1 diabetes, a chronic disease that affects more than 8 million people around the world, a number that's expected to increase rapidly. In the US alone, approximately 1.4 million people, including nearly 170,000 under the age of 20, have type 1 diabetes.
2:12 Speaker 01 I don't think I ever had the opportunity to be a kid.
2:15 Speaker 02 Since she was three years old, Madison's life has included a highly controlled diet, constantly measuring her blood sugar levels and insulin shots.
2:24 Speaker 01 And it's something that I have spent the past couple of years in therapy really working through because it's not fair. It's not just that I feel like it's not fair. It is not.
2:39 Speaker 02 When she was just a toddler, Madison started showing signs that something was off.
2:44 Speaker 01 I was getting really, really skinny, which is weird because the people in my family are not very skinny.
2:49 Speaker 02 She was thin, feeling thirsty all the time, and constantly tired.
2:54 Speaker 01 I would be falling asleep in random places. My mom found me asleep next to my oatmeal one morning, found me asleep on the toilet one day. You know, I'm a toddler. I'm three years old. So that was really strained, especially when I'm supposed to be running around. And one night, my mom was putting me to bed, and she said that she could count every single one of my ribs. And in that moment, she picked me up, put me in the back of the car, gave me a Sprite, which later on, we would find out was a very bad idea, and took me to Children's Hospital.
3:26 Speaker 02 When they got there, the medical team found Madison's blood sugar level was dangerously elevated, nearly 200% higher than it should have been.
3:35 Speaker 01 They told my mom I should be dead. Had she had put me to bed that night, I would have been dead. And that's how I was diagnosed.
3:45 Speaker 01 I think my parents had about a year of giving me injections until I told them to never touch me with the needle again.
3:51 Speaker 02 By the time she was five, Madison was doing all her injections herself.
3:56 Speaker 01 It was harder for me to see my mom inflict pain upon me than it was for me to just do it myself. Like, seeing her face, that upset me. It wasn't even that it would hurt, because it hurt sometimes when I would do it myself. But I just didn't want her to have that responsibility of feeling like she was hurting me.
4:17 Speaker 02 Our pancreas produces insulin, a special hormone that the body needs to process glucose, a key source of energy. For people who have type 1 diabetes, those insulin-producing cells in the pancreas are destroyed. That means the glucose stays in the blood, resulting in high blood sugar levels, also known as hyperglycemia. The symptoms include increased thirst, hunger, frequent urination, and weight loss. If left untreated, this can lead to excessively high glucose levels and eventually could even be fatal. People with type 1 diabetes rely on giving themselves insulin every single day to survive and have to be super vigilant. Not enough insulin can lead to high blood glucose levels, and over time, complications like kidney disease,
5:01 Speaker 02 vision loss, nerve damage, heart attacks, and strokes. Too much insulin can result in low blood sugar. If left unaddressed, blood glucose levels can fall dangerously low and can lead to severe hypoglycemia, resulting in seizures, loss of consciousness, or even death.
5:26 Speaker 01 I remember it was President's Day weekend. She was playing volleyball, so she had this tournament.
5:32 Speaker 02 Madison's younger sister Cameron also had type 1 diabetes. She was 14.
5:37 Speaker 01 And I got pulled out of class. They said, hey, you know, we're going to take you to the hospital. Your sister had a seizure.
5:44 Speaker 02 Madison rushed to the hospital.
5:46 Speaker 01 My parents met us at the door, and they said, you know, she didn't make it. She was dead when they took her in the ambulance.
5:56 Speaker 02 Her sister's sudden death from diabetes devastated Madison.
6:00 Speaker 01 I would call her the good diabetic, like she really did everything she needed to do. And I was kind of in that phase of doing just enough to stay alive. And she died, and that upset me. And I was like, well, what is the point of doing everything you're supposed to do, like my sister Cameron did, if it's still not enough?
6:19 Speaker 02 Madison lost all motivation to manage her own health.
6:23 Speaker 01 For a year after she died, I told people that I took a year off of being diabetic. The responsibility is the checking your blood sugar, the making sure you're taking your injections or changing your pump. I refused to do, and my mom stepped in and did it for me.
6:40 Speaker 02 After a year, Madison resumed doing her own care. It's a daily grind, but it keeps her alive.
6:49 Speaker 03 It's a very, very difficult disease to manage.
6:52 Speaker 02 The constant managing of type 1 diabetes is something Dr. Aaron Kowalski knows intimately.
6:58 Speaker 03 When my brother was diagnosed in the late 70s, you were pretty much told that you had about 20 years before complications would form. Your life would be shortened pretty significantly. You had a very high likelihood of going blind. You had these dosing of insulin issues that could cause severe hypoglycemia and potentially death on a daily basis.
7:19 Speaker 02 A few years after his brother was diagnosed, Kowalski discovered he had type 1 diabetes as well. Today, he's the CEO of JDRF, the world's largest nonprofit funder of type 1 diabetes research.
7:34 Speaker 03 We are just celebrating the 100-year anniversary of the discovery of insulin, which won multiple Nobel Prizes and saved millions of lives. Before the discovery of insulin in 1921, every single type 1 person died.
7:50 Speaker 02 That's every single person for centuries.
7:56 Speaker 03 The disease actually was described in ancient Egyptian and Greek writings. And this observation that people made was the fact that people with this syndrome wasted away.
8:12 Speaker 02 The term diabetes mellitus was coined because it roughly translates to sweet siphon.
8:18 Speaker 03 The sugar would just pass through people. The food would just pass through them. And the sweetness was observed when ants would be attracted to the urine of these people.
8:32 Speaker 02 Modern times have brought us modern discoveries. Apart from the breakthrough of insulin, there was a landmark study in 1983 called the DCC T trial, which stands for the Diabetes Control and Complications Trial. It showed the connection between high blood sugar and complications. It also showed that with more intensive therapy, people with type 1 diabetes could prevent long-term eye, kidney, and nerve complications. And more recently, there's been huge improvements in glucose monitoring. This includes smartphone apps with sensors, which can monitor blood sugar levels continually.
9:07 Speaker 03 Not surprisingly, if you have more information, you do better. I certainly think that's been one of the biggest changes in my life and my brother's life.
9:18 Speaker 02 Despite all those improvements in managing type 1 diabetes, there's still no cure. And people with the disease are still at risk of developing really severe, potentially fatal, complications.
9:30 Speaker 04 Type 1 diabetes has such a significant burden on individuals, on families, on communities, and it is a 24/7 relentless job.
9:40 Speaker 02 That's Dr. Felicia Palauka. She's the Vice President and Disease Area Executive for Type 1 Diabetes at Vertex. They are researching type 1 diabetes at the cellular level, something she first got interested in when she was a student.
9:54 Speaker 04 It was really a lecture that I saw when I was a PhD student by Professor Doug Melton that turned that paradigm on its head, that not only could we think about cells as being a cause of disease, but think about cells as being a solution to diseases.
10:11 Speaker 02 That's what Vertex is investigating: cell therapy as a potential treatment for type 1 diabetes.
10:17 Speaker 04 Vertex has a really unique research and development strategy that focuses first and foremost on diseases where we understand the causal biology really well so that we can rationally design therapies that could have a major transformative impact on patients if we're successful in developing them.
10:38 Speaker 02 Type 1 diabetes definitely fits that description.
10:41 Speaker 04 Clearly, it's a disease with enormous unmet medical need. It's a disease where we understand that these missing insulin-producing islet cells are at the heart of the disease.
10:52 Speaker 02 And this knowledge is what drives Vertex forward.
10:55 Speaker 04 Science has advanced to a place where even a decade ago, it was unthinkable. It was science fiction to think that you could make replacement islet cells in the laboratory. And so to be at the moment now, it really feels like an inflection point. And we hope it really will be in the history of the treatment of type 1 diabetes.
11:21 Speaker 02 The professor who first inspired Dr. Palauka to think of cells as living problem solvers was Dr. Doug Melton, one of the world's leading stem cell researchers. A former Harvard professor, he's been in this area of research for more than 20 years. And this year, he joined Vertex as a distinguished fellow. But working on an investigational treatment for type 1 diabetes wasn't always on his radar.
11:43 Speaker 05 Well, I didn't think much about diabetes until my six-month-old son contracted the disease. From a parental point of view, you have to manage that little baby's blood sugars by pricking their fingers or their toes and squeezing blood out and measuring how much sugar there is, and then inject them with insulin. You can imagine how hard it is in a six-month-old that doesn't talk.
12:06 Speaker 02 His son Sam was the youngest person at Children's Hospital in Boston to be diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
12:13 Speaker 05 My wife had to deal with the fact that she was also breastfeeding Sam at the time. When you're eating food like a candy bar or an apple or something, you know how much sugar you're taking in. But you can't tell how much sugar you take in or energy from breast milk because you don't know what the volume is. So she's up all night testing his blood sugars and injecting insulin. And she looked at me more or less and said, "Look, you're a scientist. Go do something about this."
12:42 Speaker 02 And so he set out to do just that.
12:47 Speaker 02 It was understood that people with type 1 were missing insulin-producing cells, also known as beta cells. Dr. Melton figured if the beta cells were missing, they needed to make new ones.
12:57 Speaker 05 There was this nice commercial about a man, and he would say, "Time to make the doughnuts." And so I used to go to the lab and say, "Time to make beta cells." That was our job.
13:05 Speaker 02 I love that. What are the differences between type 1 and type 2 diabetes?
13:10 Speaker 05 Well, type 1 diabetes is caused by the problem that one's immune system makes a mistake. Instead of just attacking foreign entities, like a virus, it decides, for reasons we don't understand, to attack the patient's own beta cells and destroys those cells. That is not the cause of type 2 diabetes. In type 2 diabetes, the patient still makes insulin, but their body has a greater and greater demand for insulin. So it's called insulin resistance, meaning that the patient's muscle and fat cells require more and more insulin all the time. Type 2 diabetes can be treated, in many cases, by changes in diet and exercise. That is not true for type 1. So no behavioral change
13:54 Speaker 05 will prevent or treat type 1 diabetes.
13:58 Speaker 02 What was that aha moment?
13:59 Speaker 05 The real turning point was about in 2013, 2014, where we figured out the right factors or molecules to give to the cells that made them respond to glucose. Because the beta cell's job is to read or measure the amount of sugar in the blood and then squirt out just the right amount of insulin. So the moment where we had a test and when we added glucose, the cells squirted out insulin and then we knew we were on the right track.
14:30 Speaker 02 As part of his work at Vertex, Dr. Melton is helping develop a potential treatment that addresses the root cause of type 1 diabetes, the absence of those insulin-producing cells in the pancreas. The company is investigating how to replace those destroyed cells with insulin-producing cells and making sure they can get into patients in a way where they can survive and function for a long time. And progress so far gives Dr. Melton confidence in their path forward.
14:58 Speaker 05 Let's put it this way. If 30 years ago, you had told someone you would take a human stem cell and turn it into functional insulin-producing cells, people would have said, "Yeah, good luck with that."
15:11 Speaker 02 One last thing that Dr. Melton told me, something that made me smile the rest of the day. He says that everywhere he goes, he always carries a little vial in his pocket.
15:21 Speaker 05 It has in it cells that have been turned into insulin-producing cells. Sometimes I take it out like a snow globe and just turn it up and down and look at it because it reminds me that this is possible. We now know the problem and we just have to do it.
15:40 Speaker 02 Madison Carter is hoping for a better treatment for type 1 diabetes because she doesn't want another generation of young people to feel how she did.
15:49 Speaker 01 I was like, I don't want to take the shot. I don't want to do this again tomorrow. I don't, I don't want to. Not that I wanted to die, but I just did not want to work this hard to be alive.
16:01 Speaker 02 To ease that burden, she's now looking to technology.
16:04 Speaker 01 Things have improved so much. Having a continuous glucose monitor is probably one of the best inventions. So now I can glance at my blood sugars and I can then pick up my insulin pump, which is right next to that device, and just input the numbers.
16:19 Speaker 02 And maybe more important than tech, Madison still has her fearless determination.
16:24 Speaker 01 I had a friend point out to me, she goes, "Oh, that's why you are the way you are." You know? And I didn't even realize that. I didn't even associate it back to my diabetes.
16:43 Speaker 02 This is Targeting the Toughest Diseases, a podcast from Bloomberg Media Studios and Vertex Pharmaceuticals. If you like what you hear, subscribe and leave us a review. I'm Jordan Goss-Pore. Thanks for listening.
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