Kylie on A Royal Correction, ‘Scandal’ Shooting Secrets & Bennie Crashes The Set | Ep. 83

Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie brought to you by Allstate! She’s joined by the legendary actress who gets it handled on Scandal, Kerry Washington (26:05)! Kylie breaks down Olivia Pope dinner, working while pregnant (39:44), the best part of being a stepmom, and discovers their husbands played together on the Eagles… (27:49) But before Kerry joins the show, Kylie faces the fact that Wyatt is turning 7 (2:21), gives her best tips when toddlers overstimulate in the kitchen, and reveals the girls’ choices for Halloween costumes… so far (8:35). She also responds to a Real One overshare in the comments (and hopes they keep coming) and gets to meet three new adoptable animals of the month with the help of one of her daughters (16:15). Then Kylie sits down with actress, fellow mom, and retired NFL wife: Kerry Washington! Kylie and Kerry bond over what would be their personal ‘Olivia Pope Dinner,’ and Kylie even brings a bag of popcorn and her own Shirley Temple. Kerry talks about what it was like to be pregnant twice during Scandal, how mom brain affected her learning lines, and the most ridiculous items she hid behind trying to hide her belly. After that, Kylie and Kerry talk about her favorite, rage-filled line in her new upcoming Netflix movie Animals (49:30), and the biggest lesson she learned from Julia Stiles in Save the Last Dance (53:15). And they talk about the privilege it is to have a “bonus baby,” as well as what to do when your kids repeat *your own words* back to you (63:04). You can find even more clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Kerry on our YouTube channel on More Sh*t Monday. . Download the full podcast here: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-gonna-lie-with-kylie-kelce/id1780888125 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0RgXbSGGmwpzAyeLHbDqUD?si=4585dab89c4f4c11&nd=1&dlsi=e178bf324b99403f Follow Not Gonna Lie on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: lnk.to/j61XD8 Purchase NGL Merch: https://www.nglkylie.com Support the show: Allstate: If it’s important to you, it’s important to Allstate. Switch to Allstate and you could save hundreds on home insurance today. NOT AVAILABLE IN EVERY STATE. Potential savings vary. Subject to terms and qualifications. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates: Northbrook, Illinois. BJs Wholesale Club: Not a BJ’s Wholesale Club member yet? Join today with a special offer for a one-year Club membership at just $10!!! For an entire year yes, you heard that right!– you can learn more and discover what BJ’s is all about at https://BJs.com/KylieKelce CVS: Go to https://CVS.com/app to learn more and download the app now. Visa: This episode is presented by Visa. Paying with Visa. That’s a Pro Move. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:47Kylie Kelce?

  Hi, Boo Boo Bear. Show her your nails. Maybe she likes your nail polish.

• 0:50Speaker 03

  I was still working 16-hour days. I was still wearing high heels. My OB at one point was like, I'm calling Shonda.

• 0:56Kylie Kelce?

  I was unaware that calling Princess Catherine, Princess Kate was offensive. She told me that she's telling dad that she's asking for a stuffed cat with a wink.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  Julia has my heart. I think she's killing it. At one point, the director comes up to us and says, like, you know what, ladies? We just need to go one more time. Julia looked at the director and she said, we will go as many times as you want if you take off your coat.

• 1:19Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, few things hit harder than when you get to girl talk with your three-year-old. Let me set the scene. She gets in the minivan after I pick her up from preschool. And I say, how was your day? She starts trying to tell me about a friend that she met and how she had brown hair and a dress on. And I say, was it a pretty dress? And she said, yes. She restarts the story and says, the girl with brown hair and the pretty red dress. And then we're just gossiping. And by gossiping, I mean telling lovely stories about how that friend was really nice and they played together in the dress-up closet.

• 2:00Kylie Kelce?

  That's girlhood. Let's get this podcast started.

• 2:08Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original brought to you by Allstate. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, adamant partaker in Gilmore Girls Fall, which might have just been swapped out for Scandal Fall? I wonder why. Anyway, if I were watching Gilmore Girls, I would think,

• 2:30Kylie Kelce?

  oh, no. Is it Jess? Is it Dean? Is it Logan? Who is it? It's not Logan, I know that. Fictional hostess of an NFL Sunday watch party, where I'm absolutely panicking because everyone's coming over and they want to watch every game. I'm so sorry that you have to keep seeing that. We were watching games yesterday because go Uncle Trav and go Chiefs. And my goodness.

• 2:59Kylie Kelce?

  I'm sorry. Guys, I'm sorry. And most importantly, the mother of a seven-year-old. Oh, no.

• 3:10Kylie Kelce?

  No. Oh, no.

• 3:15Kylie Kelce?

  That's right, tomorrow is Wyatt's birthday.

• 3:21Kylie Kelce?

  It's so rude. It's so, honestly, it's just, at this point, disrespectful. I don't like it. I'd like it to stop. And it's interesting that she keeps getting older and I'm still 24. Wyatt did pick out her birthday theme. I have a list of things that she has informed me are imperative for her birthday celebration, one of which is a puppet show.

• 3:48Kylie Kelce?

  So, wish me luck. She does want a chocolate, a chocolate cake, and then vanilla cake, and then, and with vanilla buttercream, but then with blue ice. I'm unsure. Any big gift she's asking? Surprise, surprise. She's my child for a cat. And she told me that she's telling dad that she's asking for a stuffed cat with a wink. Coming up on today's episode, my favorite cuddly, sometimes scaly, segment is back. It's Adoptable Animals of the Month. Our friends from PSPCA are about to surprise me with three new animals that could be yours.

• 4:33Kylie Kelce?

  Come on down. After that, somehow this episode will get even better. Because, get your big ass bowls of popcorn. Can I get it? Can I get it? Get your big ass bowls of popcorn. And an even bigger glass of red wine. Because it's handled. That's right. We got Olivia Pope herself, AKA The Icon. How do I get to talk to the incredible people I get to talk to? I'm in places. I have no business being talking to people. I have no business being. It's Kerry Washington.

• 5:13Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 5:15Kylie Kelce?

  Calm down, Kylie. I already spoke to her and my armpits are sweaty. So, was I nervous? Yes, I'm always nervous talking to the incredible people I get to talk to. But also, she's delightfully funny and stunning. But first, let's start things off with our Real One Comment of the Week. Um, first up, an entry for the Comment Hall of Fame, and a reminder that maybe there's actually no such thing as too much information on this show. Someone commented, oh, my gosh. Girl, you made my week between my mom in the hospital again and my cheating-ass husband. Who thinks sending naked photos to other people?

• 5:59Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, then his own wife is okay. Tomorrow is gonna be a minute of fresh air. Canadian flag, heart hands.

• 6:17Kylie Kelce?

  I've said it before and I'll say it again. This podcast has really settled into its intended demographic. And we have what some people would consider a fan base or a group of listeners or regulars that really, they get it. Okay?

• 6:39Kylie Kelce?

  This woman gets it. We're so happy she's here. And we're also so happy to know the details of the messy week that she had. We hope that your mom is feeling better. And fuck your husband. Am I right? Okay, just if I, I had to say it. If you're watching this, Shannon, leave his ass. And lastly, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume we have some incoming rage bait. Gosh, why you do this? Princess Catherine is too refined and beautiful to be subjected to your cursing. You'll need to clean up your act. First of all, you're correct.

• 7:24Kylie Kelce?

  What? What? Yes, agreed. I don't think that anybody owes me anything. Let me emphasize that. I would love to speak to the Princess of Wales. Okay? Because of many reasons. She is an incredible woman. She has children. She played field hockey. She battled cancer. There are so many things that I would love to speak to her about.

• 8:04Kylie Kelce?

  Do I think she has time to hop on this podcast? No, I do not. I don't think that. Would I curse at her face? No.

• 8:14Kylie Kelce?

  Here's the thing. I love a curse word. I love it so, so much. I love curse words. You guys know that. But at the end of the day, I am respectful of the situations that I am put in, at least being respectful to the people I am speaking to. I don't go out in public and just let the F-bombs fly. Okay? Because I like to be respectful of the individuals around me. If I don't know that you're into that, then I'm not gonna start chucking curse words at your face. Guys, here's the deal. I love learning. So, I was unaware that calling Princess Catherine, Princess Kate was offensive. I didn't know that. Now I know that. Now I will proceed accordingly.

• 8:58Kylie Kelce?

  I apologize for the mistake. I would like to refer to people in the most respectful way and how they feel respected. So, Princess Catherine it is, or the Princess of Wales, I apologize. I will get that sorted immediately, starting now. All right, that's it for Real One Comments of the Week. Next up, let's get to scrolling with Doom Scroll of the Week, brought to you by BJ's Wholesale Club. First, it's October, which means type A people everywhere have gone all out with perfect Halloween decor. Luckily, we have Nikki Marie holding it down for us. Type Cs, show us. Show us. Show us her porch.

• 9:40Kylie Kelce?

  Ghosts. Yes. And a mum. A ghost and a mum. Guys, what more could you ask for? Really? We have go three ghosts that go in the front lawn some years.

• 9:59Kylie Kelce?

  Some years there are ghosts. Typically, there's at least one pumpkin on the porch.

• 10:08Kylie Kelce?

  Until those, we call them doofuses in our house, until the doofuses get to them. Those are the squirrels. Okay?

• 10:17Kylie Kelce?

  Squirrels, that's the best snack. Okay? And don't do not come in these comments talking about, oh, do you know how to get the squirrels not to eat your pumpkins? You need to wash them in this and then coat them in. How many times I gotta tell you, I am type C. I am purchasing that pumpkin. I am bringing it home. I am taking it out of the car and carrying it to the front porch. If it makes it to the front porch, we are lucky. Penny does want to be Leila from Teen Beach Movie because she wants to wear red lipic. That's literally the red lipic and high heels. Oh, and a pink jacket.

• 11:00Kylie Kelce?

  Those were her, those were her bullet points in order. Some point she mentioned that Leila wears a bra for a shirt and I was like, homie. I think not. And she said, okay, tank top. So Benny's costume is actually figured out.

• 11:20Kylie Kelce?

  I just have to order it.

• 11:25Kylie Kelce?

  One down, three to go. Next scroll. I'm not sure I've related to a clip more than this one. I feel it in literally all of my bones. Queen M of the clip, please. It says, why are moms overstimulated? And their child's foot is literally, oh, God.

• 11:46Kylie Kelce?

  It's always touching them. Okay. No, no.

• 11:51Kylie Kelce?

  Last night, just last night, I was in the kitchen trying to make dinner. And no matter where I went in the kitchen, I had a child holding on to my pants. Now, this is overstimulating for a few reasons. First of all, I want to go places in my kitchen while I'm cooking without a resistance shoot on. Okay? I don't need you dragging me in the opposite direction. Also, it kind of tugs your pants down, which, oh gosh, gives me the shivers. I, and then to top it all off, the, the cherry on top really is when she tries to squeeze herself

• 12:35Kylie Kelce?

  between me and the cabinet to push me backwards.

• 12:42Kylie Kelce?

  And tell me to pick her up. Also, whenever you sit down on the couch and then all of a sudden it's ones on top of you, and then the youngest sees that and then they get pissed off because they're like, that's, that's my mom. And then they're on top of you. And then the older ones are like, hey, I was sitting there. And then suddenly you are under three of your four children.

• 13:05Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I want to preface this with, I would say 75% of the time, I'm like, hell yeah. Put me at the bottom of my child dog pile. Okay? A thousand percent, 75% of the time. I, I'm like, get, get over here. Get in here. Hurry up.

• 13:27Kylie Kelce?

  That 25% of the time, I need you to stop touching me. For the people who are like, you can hold your can while you're cooking. I do. I do. For those of you who want to come in with snarky comments.

• 13:42Kylie Kelce?

  My husband tried. Okay? It was not a dad day. It was not a dad day for Finley and Kelsey. So you can take those ideas and shove them right up back in your ass where they came from. That was aggressive and I'm standing by it. And lastly, football is back and so are perfectly curated game day spreads. I can literally never come close to. It's never going to look like this. Queen M of the clip, please.

• 14:07Speaker 04

  I made these black garlic chicken wings.

• 14:09Kylie Kelce?

  Of course you did.

• 14:10Speaker 04

  And these oven Parmesan fries from.

• 14:12Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, why not?

• 14:13Speaker 04

  Kitchen cookbook, along with this anti-pasto pan pizza.

• 14:18Kylie Kelce?

  What?

• 14:18Speaker 04

  I mean, look at the crust all the way around.

• 14:20Kylie Kelce?

  No, I see it.

• 14:21Speaker 04

  I made these pretzel tots with a chili crisp mustard and this whipped ricotta with olives, crispy shallots and almonds.

• 14:30Kylie Kelce?

  What are you scooping it with?

• 14:30Speaker 04

  Good with some toasted bread.

• 14:33Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. It must feel so good to look at your finished product and have people come and enjoy your food and your spread. I mean, outstanding.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  It's not gonna be me.

• 14:44Kylie Kelce?

  The good news is, is that I can still do a spread. It's just probably not going to be oven baked Parmesan. You know what I mean? So, uh, the good news is I have the support of many. Uh, Nana will help. Jason will help if he's around. The girls will help enthusiastically, but unproductively. The other supportive, the supportive cast in this situation is BJ's for same day delivery. And I'm not just saying that. Um, last weekend, I ran out of paper towels.

• 15:25Kylie Kelce?

  And I needed more grapes for lunches. The crispiest, crunchiest grapes, let me tell you. And then on top of that, we need snacks. Everybody knows we need snacks. You need sneaky snacks for games. So we got them delivered right to our door. And I'm, guess what? I'm gonna do it again. Maybe even this afternoon. I might not be doing these homemade wings. But I could get my favorite chicken fingers, which are the Just Bear lightly breaded chicken fingers. They have chicken fingers and chicken bites or chicken nuggets. I don't know what they're called. You gotta, you gotta, I can't give you everything. And when all else fails, Uncrustables.

• 16:07Kylie Kelce?

  Guys, if it's good enough for the football players you're watching, it's good enough for you. Also, you have to eat the Uncrustables when they're not fully thawed.

• 16:15Kylie Kelce?

  There's something so good about when the bread is thawed, but the, but the peanut butter is still a little bit firm. That's the best time to eat Uncrustable. You know how you warm it up to that? You're not expecting me to say this. Put it under your leg.

• 16:31Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, you're welcome. And guess what? You got two legs. Just a thought. All right. That's it for Doom Scroll of the Week, brought to you by BJ's Wholesale Club. Join today with a special one-year membership offer at just $10. Learn more at bj's.com/kylieKelsey. Now it's time.

• 16:49Kylie Kelce?

  We made it, guys.

• 16:51Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, we made it. Let's get to our Adoptable Animals of the Month, brought to you by Allstate. If you would like to support the PSPCA, you can do so by either adopting these animals or you can donate, uh, at the PSPCA's website. We love to partner with the PSPCA. There are lots of adoptable animals in many different shelters, foster homes and, uh, rescues across the country. Please feel free to look into your local rescue. Find out if there's any adoptable friends there that you might want to bring home. Enough of that though, because that's, that's housekeeping.

• 17:34Kylie Kelce?

  This is Brownie. He is a Great Pyrenees mix. Maybe, or maybe he's just a Great Pyrenees. He does look very Great Pyrenees-y. He has big old paws, so you know he's gonna be a big boy. Puppy.

• 17:50Kylie Kelce?

  Hi, puppies. How ya?

• 17:54Kylie Kelce?

  And don't tell him he may or may not have just two brain cells in there rubbing together, trying to make a spark. He's gonna be huge. And so one of the things about Great Pyrenees, much like any other giant breed dogs, is that you should have experience with big dogs. Oh, he could just stay. Foster him.

• 18:17Kylie Kelce?

  I can't wait until Jason catches on to the idea that when I start fostering animals, that none of them leave. It's such a shame when none of them get adopted and when we foster them. Hmm. Weird. God, his freaking eyeballs going the opposite directions is unreal. Look at his speckly nose. You could get some cats. You could guard them.

• 18:41Kylie Kelce?

  It's right in there. Do you want to be a Kelsey? No? Okay. I get that. Too much estrogen? Oh, oh my gosh, are you kidding? Look at this puppy.

• 18:56Kylie Kelce?

  He looks so small in person, but his head on here looks huge. He's literally like, maybe like three to five months old. He was rescued by the animal law enforcement team. He came in with a bunch of other puppies and, um, but he's the only one who hasn't gotten a home? Only him. Last man standing. Are you kidding me? Guys, get him.

• 19:28Kylie Kelce?

  He's like, "The fuck I am not." "Do you want to be part of our zoo?" "I'll let you go now, okay? I love you.

• 19:39Kylie Kelce?

  I'll never forget it."

• 19:44Kylie Kelce?

  Guys, this is Bun Bun. Look at her.

• 19:49Kylie Kelce?

  You are so pretty. Oh my goodness. Okay, she was rescued. I feel like I have to take my... We just had a very playful moment. And now we're taking it down. Calming down. Okay. She's colored like a ragdoll cat. Interesting.

• 20:09Kylie Kelce?

  She does have, she has

• 20:13Kylie Kelce?

  ongoing treatment for her congenital defect affecting her hind leg. This, that's what this wrap is for. Okay, she has a little

• 20:23Kylie Kelce?

  little wrap, oh, there it is. A little wrap back here for her foot.

• 20:29Kylie Kelce?

  Don't worry about that. She's, you'd think, wow, does that make her imperfect? No, it does not. She's actually more perfect. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh no.

• 20:44Kylie Kelce?

  I think I want a bunny. The girls like bunnies.

• 20:48Kylie Kelce?

  Should we see if Benny's home? I might have to let my mom come pet her. Is her head resting on my arm? Is that gonna make me cry? Oh no. We shouldn't be allowed to do this segment.

• 21:02Kylie Kelce?

  But like, let's keep doing it. Hi, there's a little animal I just want you to pet real quick.

• 21:09Kylie Kelce?

  It's, um, it's not what you think it is, but you can bring Benny if she promises to be quiet. Hi, Boo Boo Bear. Come feel her.

• 21:18Kylie Kelce?

  Be gentle.

• 21:23Kylie Kelce?

  Isn't she so soft? Come feel her. Oh, look at it.

• 21:31Kylie Kelce?

  It feels like Darwin. Yeah. Mom. She's so... Her name is Bun Bun. Oh my god, wait a minute. It's backwards. What? The fact that she stays when you pet her? Again, I cannot explain how that is like so exciting to me. She's so freaking cute.

• 21:56Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, I can't get over that. You gotta pet her really gently. Go ahead.

• 22:02Kylie Kelce?

  Oh my goodness. Is that not one of the softest things you've ever touched in your whole life? Yeah. That's insane. I mean, it's the softest, one of the softest things I've ever petted in my whole life, and I'm 34 years old. You only have three years of petting things? Or the pets more? Her name, her name is Bun Bun. How cute is that? Cause she's a little bunny.

• 22:26Kylie Kelce?

  Do you think she likes your, your nail polish? Show her your nails. Maybe she likes your nail polish. Go like this. Look, Bun Bun, yesterday we painted our nails. Okay, Bun Bun, you are perfect, perfect, perfect. And I just know that someone's going to come and adopt you.

• 22:43Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, everyone, this is Rocky. Rocky is five years old, a Salchata tortoise. Now, that's the only thing stopping Queen Emma from taking this tortoise home because she's a turtle girl. Turtles, tortoises, two different things. Don't be ridiculous. Now, I'm basing this solely off of the Galapagos tortoises that we had the pleasure of meeting at the Philadelphia Zoo. Is there a way to pet her? She has nerves. She can feel that we touch her shell. Yeah. Great. And then, she's so cool looking. It's crazy to go from Bun Bun to this. Rocky needs someone to come and adopt her who is going to take her lifespan into consideration. So, she's five years old.

• 23:28Kylie Kelce?

  She has potentially 145 years of life left in her

• 23:35Kylie Kelce?

  on average, which is insane to think. So, someone is going to have to consider that there will be a generational interest in this animal. Do you hear her breathing?

• 23:50Kylie Kelce?

  Did you know that someone, the right person, can adopt Rocky? That means that she can go home and live at their house.

• 24:01Kylie Kelce?

  You think I'm lying to you, don't you? Yeah.

• 24:06Kylie Kelce?

  Should she go live in Emma's house?

• 24:10Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, what if Simon wants a tortoise? If you're babysitting Simon, will you babysit Rocky? Yeah. Perfect. Look at that. We got all our care lined up. I'm gonna try my best not to feed her the mic, but to get some ASMR of her breathing.

• 24:38Kylie Kelce?

  She needs to go to a family that's invested in having her for many, many years. But also, it needs to be a tortoise experienced household. She's gonna make you work for it, cause you should. As Kerry Washington would say, "You should earn it." How about that full circle?

• 24:59Kylie Kelce?

  Gosh, they're so cool. This has been the Adoptable Animals of the Month. Brought to you by Allstate. Get out of here. Next up is Kerry Washington. The real ones already know about my love for BJ's Wholesale Club and football season, but you might not know all about my favorite things that get delivered from BJ's to get game day ready. We're talking Skinny Pop. We're talking Elio's Pizza. Uncrustables, Ritz Bitch Cheese Crackers, Pirate Booty, Chomps. Wyatt, every single time she sees a Ritz Bitch Cheese Cracker, it's going in her mouth. She loves it. Now, I like Chomps because they don't get stolen by kids. I love that with BJ's, I can save so much compared to a regular grocery store.

• 25:44Kylie Kelce?

  Because BJ's isn't just for the big stock up once in a while. I rely on it for our groceries every week. I've mentioned it before and I'll say it forever. My favorite part about BJ's is same-day delivery. I can get anything I need in as little as two hours right to my front door. And if you're not already a BJ's Wholesale Club member, don't forget, there's an insane offer right now. Join BJ's Wholesale Club for just $10 for one year at the club membership level with BJ's Easy Renewal. Learn more at bj's.com/kylieKelsey. The place you call home is important to you, so it's important to Allstate. Because home is where you make all your memories. Like when you finally have a moment to yourself, so you sneak into the pantry for a treat, but your toddler catches you, so you gotta share.

• 26:30Kylie Kelce?

  I'll always remember their little voices saying, "Can I have some?" If it's important to you, it's important to Allstate. Switch to Allstate and you could save hundreds on home insurance today. Not available in every state. Potential savings vary. Subject to terms and qualifications. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Can I ask a question? Like, how is it that this is our first conversation with each other? That seems so strange to me. Let me tell you. I just absolutely love, and I always, I always admit this, cause I, I always have like a, a not gonna lie situation. I'm gonna give you my not gonna lie right now. Not gonna lie. What's your not gonna lie? I have been waiting to watch Scandal. Oh. For what? I couldn't tell you. Because now that I... For like the right moment.

• 27:15Kylie Kelce?

  Because I'm telling you, this, us, us getting to have this conversation today pushed me to start it. Oh.

• 27:25Kylie Kelce?

  You can catch me in the depths. I, I mean... I'm so happy. Thank you for watching. I mean, it's no surprise because of how loved the show is. Yeah, we're so lucky. And how incredible the crew was. I mean, Shonda at work again. I'm, the whole thing. Yeah. Well, okay, I'm gonna try and read your intro. Hopefully I don't mess it up too much, cause I don't know if my coffee kicked in yet, but we'll try.

• 27:56Kylie Kelce?

  She's the Emmy Award-winning queen you know from Scandal, Save the Last Dance, Little Fires Everywhere, Imperfect Women, and soon, her brand-new movie, Animals, out on Netflix on October 9th. She's also a fellow mom, a fellow retired NFL wife. We're gonna get into that. And now she's officially not gonna lie, Kerry Washington. Welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. I mean, I already told you, I'm diving into Scandal. It's amazing. But the, the other connection right now that we're in football season. We are. I was so excited when I realized that our husbands... Played together on the Eagles?

• 28:38Speaker 03

  They were in Philly together. Yeah. So for like two years they were together. And I asked Namdi this weekend, I was like, did you, because I didn't know, I was like, did you guys play together? He was like, yes, we played together for two years. He said, when he went to Philly was actually your husband's rookie year. And he was like, I just remember being so impressed with him because as a rookie, you don't always see guys who have that much like maturity and leadership at such a young age. I thought that was so nice. I wanted to share that.

• 29:09Kylie Kelce?

  That's very sweet. I was really hoping you were going to come in with some dirt because we love to just find, find something. Yeah, just like go back to my husband and be like, really? You did that?

• 29:20Speaker 03

  No, but I have like, Namdi doesn't, he's not like freewheeling with the compliments and he has really high standards when it comes to like leadership and maturity. And so I was, I meant, it means a lot for him to say that.

• 29:34Kylie Kelce?

  Well, that's very kind. Does your husband reflect fondly on his time in Philadelphia? Like, did he enjoy the city?

• 29:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, we love Philly. I actually, yeah, we root for the Birds. We do. I mean, we root for, I root for a lot of teams because of him, you know, like he retired, he played for the Raiders for over a decade and retired with the Raiders. So I, that's a team that I really love, but I also, we loved our time in Philly. We love the Eagles. We root for the Eagles. I also, because I grew up in New York, so Philly was somewhere we went, like we used to go to the Penn Relays every year when I was a kid because my dad ran track. And so we did our annual trip to the Penn Relays and we would go to the Franklin Institute. They had this incredible exhibit with this heart that you could walk through as a kid.

• 30:19Kylie Kelce?

  The best.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  And love that, love that museum. So yeah, Philly has, holds a really special place in my heart. I loved our apartment in Philly. Oh my God.

• 30:29Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I have so much to ask you about today, but I feel like I couldn't not get right into Scandal, which we already dipped into because now I'm in it.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  Watching. Okay, great. You're welcome to like text me along the way. I'm going to warn you, you're on a crazy roller coaster ride. It's going to get nuts. Just strap your seatbelt on, stay in, enjoy the ride.

• 30:48Kylie Kelce?

  I'm excited. And honestly, like I said, all of the hype that I have heard for years and years and years about this show makes, it makes so much sense. It's, it's all, it's all making sense, but I do have, I was told that I needed this and I needed this.

• 31:06Speaker 03

  Oh, I love, I love it. It's super early in the morning for red wine. Is that, is that something else in there?

• 31:14Kylie Kelce?

  It's a Shirley Temple.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  Okay, good. I was like, girl.

• 31:18Kylie Kelce?

  It's a Shirley Temple. I have this because

• 31:21Speaker 03

  Popcorn. So good.

• 31:23Kylie Kelce?

  For those of you who don't know, I have a big bowl of popcorn and a glass of Shirley Temple, of course. I've heard that it's called the Olivia Pope dinner.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  It is. That's what she did alone in her apartment.

• 31:36Kylie Kelce?

  I love it so much.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  I loved it too.

• 31:39Kylie Kelce?

  I'm sure you've seen these TikToks. We have one right here for reference.

• 31:49Kylie Kelce?

  The size of this glass is outstanding.

• 31:52Speaker 03

  So good.

• 31:53Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 31:57Kylie Kelce?

  Amazing.

• 32:00Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. Whole bottle and then a whole bag of popcorn. Now.

• 32:08Kylie Kelce?

  How do you feel about this being one of the lasting legacies of the show?

• 32:14Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm, also it's the face she's making that like grimace. That people, that horrible meme of the grimace, which actually, to be honest, came later more for me. Like that was a, anyway, it's a very long explanation, but it's, it's crazy. It's crazy that she holds a space in people's imaginations so firmly still. It's kind of humbling. I don't know. It's, it's wild. Yeah.

• 32:48Kylie Kelce?

  Do you have your own Olivia Pope dinner that like if you got home, what would be your drink and giant snack of choice? I don't really drink.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  I don't either.

• 32:58Kylie Kelce?

  Wait.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  I know. It's all fake. All the red wine is fake on the show.

• 33:02Kylie Kelce?

  Do you like, do you like popcorn though?

• 33:04Speaker 03

  I do. I love popcorn.

• 33:06Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, okay. Good. I was going to say that might be harder.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Nevermind. I love popcorn.

• 33:11Kylie Kelce?

  Fashioning some fake popcorn.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  I really love, this is so crazy, but I really love the brownies from Goop.

• 33:22Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, okay. I'm into this.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  So that's like, and I also love, do you know the company Siete Foods? They do like gluten free chips. Okay. So any of their, like their cassava chips or their tortilla chips with guacamole that I make. That's definitely a comfort snack.

• 33:44Kylie Kelce?

  Guac is such a good answer for this because I, I genuinely think it's kind of like deviled eggs. If you think too much about how many avocados you're eating, you might get grossed out.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  No, you can't.

• 33:56Kylie Kelce?

  Think about that.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  You can't. You cannot.

• 33:58Kylie Kelce?

  Just keep scooping.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:00Kylie Kelce?

  I truly think I could eat a vat of specifically homemade guac.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:05Kylie Kelce?

  There's another phenomenon online called mom dinner. Have you seen this?

• 34:11Speaker 03

  No.

• 34:11Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. So it's basically like when you feed your kids mac and cheese and then mom stands over the pot and like eats the scrubs of the mac and cheese. Yeah. This is, that's what I related this to. When I saw Olivia Pope dinner, I'm like, this makes sense. This is like mom dinner or girl dinner, you know, like we just, we love an excuse not to eat a, an appropriately portioned meal. You know, full meal.

• 34:36Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm literally thinking of myself last night at dinner, after cooking dinner for the fam, how, how I like, will clean the kitchen while continuing to eat the vegetables that I just.

• 34:48Kylie Kelce?

  I took the pot of pasta to the table. I took the little, I took the little saucepan of pasta to the table. My three year old looked at me like I was crazy because I usually don't take it to the table. I think she was more surprised that I was sitting down. That was crazier to her.

• 35:02Speaker 03

  For you. This is progress.

• 35:04Kylie Kelce?

  You know what, mom? Go ahead.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  How old are your kids? And you have four?

• 35:09Kylie Kelce?

  Four of them. Next week I will have a seven year old, which is very exciting, but six, five, three and one.

• 35:17Speaker 03

  Wow. You're in it, girl.

• 35:20Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  How are you doing a podcast?

• 35:23Kylie Kelce?

  Um, sometimes I can't put a sentence together, but we have a really great editing team. King Brad, he makes it seem like I can form a thought. That's cool.

• 35:35Kylie Kelce?

  A beautiful thing. Yes.

• 35:36Speaker 03

  You're like really in it. How are you doing?

• 35:39Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, it depends on the day. Today, okay. Everybody got to school. We only had one minor crash out this morning. And with three out the door to school, I feel like those are pretty good odds.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  That's huge.

• 35:54Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Wow. Parenting is no joke. It's no joke.

• 35:58Kylie Kelce?

  It's not. It humbles you.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  I think that's one of the greatest gifts of being a mom is how humble it requires you to be.

• 36:08Kylie Kelce?

  Truly, they're just, they have this degree of honesty that is refreshing and will knock you off your feet.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. Check you. It'll check you.

• 36:20Kylie Kelce?

  Hard.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like that's good for me, particularly in this business. Like it's, it's so good that my kids don't care about any of the, like, they could care less about Olivia Pope. They could care less about a magazine cover, a movie premiere. They're like, what am I having for dinner? Help me with my math homework. Like, where are you going? Like, they're just, that's, that is their world. And I love that. I love that.

• 36:49Kylie Kelce?

  Plus, if they say the humbling things at home, when people say it to you outside of the house, it doesn't hurt nearly as bad. You're like,

• 36:57Speaker 03

  I'm like, you can't hurt my feelings. My son already told me to change my outfit.

• 37:04Kylie Kelce?

  When I get comments about like, wow, Kylie is pregnant again. I'm like, no, no, excuse me. My three year old already told me my belly's squishy. Okay. You don't need to comment on it too.

• 37:16Speaker 03

  Jiggly, squishy.

• 37:18Kylie Kelce?

  It's sweet, isn't it?

• 37:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:21Kylie Kelce?

  Now, um, one other thing that I wanted to bring up about Scandal and specifically on TikTok, I have one more that I would love to play because this one you commented on.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 37:32Kylie Kelce?

  You said, well said.

• 37:34Speaker 05

  Wrong answer. You do not see him standing here because if you did see him standing here, then I want to know how he got here. Was he arrested? Were you arrested? Oh, he wasn't. What in the world was he?

• 37:48Speaker 05

  Put in a patrol car and brought to police station because that sounds like an arrest.

• 37:52Kylie Kelce?

  The tone, the inflection nailed every line.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  To the writing. It's such a testament to the writing that people are still doing these monologues a decade later and like perfecting them. I wish I was as good as he was. Like that casual look off to the side. I'm like, I don't think I was that subtle. I think I want to go back and like redo the scene to be as good as him. It's so good.

• 38:14Kylie Kelce?

  Now, according to the internet, I have one of the top quotes here. Um, I'll read the first part and see if you can finish it. It says, I'm not the girl the guy gets at the end of the movie. I'm not a fantasy. If you want me.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  Earn me.

• 38:28Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. The internet loves that one and appropriately fucking so.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  Right? Because, because they should. They need to earn us. They have to earn us.

• 38:36Kylie Kelce?

  It's so good.

• 38:37Speaker 03

  I think the thing that people love about Olivia Pope, first of all, she's so messy, right? Like in her work professional life, she really knows her value. And I feel like a lot of her journey as a character was figuring out to, how to own her value in her personal life as well. How to be as in control and powerful like in her romantic life, how to have agency and, and self-confidence in her love life as, in the way that she did in every other room, in every other situation.

• 39:13Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  When I started playing that character, I understood enough about what power looked like in the world. But I wasn't yet a producer. I had never directed television. I didn't own a production company. I wasn't married. I didn't have children. Like, she, she didn't have a husband and children. But to learn how to be a leader in my home, in my career, in my life, to be like, number one on the call sheet, or as she would say, like, to have, to, like, it's my name on that door. Like, she taught me how to step into my power and into my... Yeah, she taught me how to, how to not be afraid to be in power, in my power.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  Um, and I'm so grateful to her for that, because I literally, like, walked in her shoes and figured out how to be a woman with more gravitas and independence and agency, to have more of a voice, to be more fearless, to tell more truth in my life. All of that, I think, was like osmosis from playing her. Like, she just, she taught me how to be more of a woman.

• 40:25Kylie Kelce?

  Speaking of being a woman, you were also pregnant twice during the run of the show.

• 40:29Speaker 03

  Twice. You can see, because the bags and the coats get bigger and bigger and bigger. And I begged... Yeah, the lamps that I'm hiding behind, the boxes I'm holding. I begged Shonda Rhimes to let Olivia Pope be pregnant, because I felt like I was violating, or like betraying the character, right? Because I was like, there's a walk? And I, I was like waddling down the hallway. And like, it's, I was like, how can I be this woman when my body's doing something totally different from what hers would be doing? But that was really good for me in two ways. One was, I actually, I worked for, with a coach, one of my best friends, who's an incredible acting coach, Colleen Basis.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  I worked with her for my audition. But then I stopped working with a coach for the first couple of seasons, for the first season. When I got pregnant, I was like, I don't know how to play her in this body. The other thing was, it really taught me, like, Shonda's refusal to let Olivia Pope be pregnant. It occurred to me, once I became a mom, that the reason she did that was because there is so much vulnerability in becoming a mom. Like, when you become a mom, it's that Barack Obama quote of like, suddenly your heart is outside your body, walking around. Like, you love this thing, this person so much, and you're afraid.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  And particularly, being the mom of a black child has like additional complexities and fear associated. And she was like, Shonda knew that Olivia Pope couldn't be that vulnerable. She was a superhero. Like, she couldn't be that vulnerable in the real world. So she didn't let her become a mom. She actually made the choice on the, oh, spoiler, but she makes the choice later on down the road to not be a mom.

• 42:15Kylie Kelce?

  Were there challenges within filming where, like, you were, obviously, growing a human being is not the easiest task. I am the person who will raise my hand when I say, I did not enjoy being pregnant. I'm very grateful to have gotten pregnant, but I did not enjoy it. Did you enjoy being pregnant? Did you feel good? Was there ever any challenges while filming where you were like, gotta go for a minute, because I have to pee for the hundredth time today?

• 42:43Speaker 03

  So, yes and to all the things. Like, I, I, I enjoyed being pregnant, but I also thought it was super weird. Like, I wasn't like romantic about it. You know what I mean? I was like, this is very cool, but also I feel like a walking science fiction movie. Like, I'm growing a creature inside. Like, so it was disorienting. I also had, like, my acne flared with my first pregnancy, which was, you know, you're like on a show that millions of people are watching. And I was like, what do I do? Um, but also,

• 43:23Speaker 03

  you might relate to this. I, it shifted my relationship with my body, because before I had been pregnant, if I had had an acne flare, it would have felt like the end of the world. Because I was like, shooting the cover of a magazine, or walking a red carpet, and doing this TV show. Once I was pregnant, I was like, well, this pregnancy is the most important thing. So like, everything else, we're just gonna have to figure out. Like, we're gonna have to figure out the, the cleanser for my face that's non-toxic, that'll maybe keep, and I'm just gonna have to like, go to the dermatologist more often. And I'm just gonna have to like, I'm just gonna have to figure stuff out, because this priority is so clear to me. Like, my number one job right now is growing this human.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  But also, I loved the show and loved our audiences and felt a huge responsibility to not let the show suffer. So I was still working sixteen hour days. Um, I was still wearing high heels all the way through my entire, I mean, my OB at one point was like, I'm calling Shonda, like, you cannot be wearing these heels. And I was like, I can't not. Like, I have to, I don't, I don't know how to be here without them. Um, yeah, I, I mean, they did a good job toward the later end of my pregnancy of helping me to try to not work more than twelve, fourteen hour days. Um, but that was the job. And also, it took me, you know how when you're pregnant, you have brain fog, right? Like, you're, because you're, half your brain is focused on doing this thing.

• 44:48Speaker 03

  So it, I used to time out how long it would take me to memorize a monologue. It literally took me twice as long to memorize my scripts. So I'd be like, working these long days and then going home and like, trying to learn the material, but it took me, but a, all of that to say, like, it was worth it. I love my kids. I love the show. Like, it was probably the hard one. It will, I, as I look back, talking to you right now, like, that's the hardest I will ever work, because of the physical challenges, the emotional challenges of being pregnant, the challenges of being on the show. Like, I don't think I'll ever have to work that hard again in my life, because I'm not gonna be pregnant again. Um, but I have no regrets. I have no regrets.

• 45:33Kylie Kelce?

  The idea of putting in twelve, just talking about the minimum side of what you're talking about, twelve to fourteen hour day, going in high heels,

• 45:46Kylie Kelce?

  going home, and then learning the next day's script.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:52Kylie Kelce?

  When I tell you, my pregnancy brain...

• 45:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, so intense.

• 45:58Kylie Kelce?

  There were days where I truly, like, I would, I would have to, my husband would laugh at me. And I still occasionally have to do this, and sometimes, some days are better than others. But when I was pregnant, I would leave a room to go get something, and I would come back and be like, I don't know what I went in there for. And then I would go back into the room when I remember. It would be like a four, a four rotation of back and forth and back and forth, before I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I can't need it that bad if I keep forgetting it.

• 46:29Kylie Kelce?

  Which is an insane take. It wasn't that I ended up with the item, it was that I gave up. I was like, I can't need it that bad if I keep forgetting. It's not possible.

• 46:37Speaker 03

  Here's the thing, though, right? Like, with all of that, you still were so high functioning, right? Like, all of your pregnancies, you've also raised other kids at the same time, right? As of the second pregnancy, like, right? You, you, the thing, I think, yes, and your capacity grows. Like, I remember, I remember looking at my daughter when I was pregnant with my son and thinking like, okay, my lap is getting smaller as my belly was getting bigger, but like, my heart was getting bigger. So like, I knew that I was, that as much as I love this kid, I was gonna be able to, I love all three of my kids so huge. It's just like, my heart just kept getting bigger and bigger. I, I remember walking some red carpet when I was like nine months, I think it was the Oscars.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  I was like ten months pregnant. And, um, and I remember stepping on the carpet and like, holding in my belly, because I had so much muscle memory of like, when you're on a carpet, you like, hold in your belly and stand up straight. But like, holding in my belly was doing nothing. I had like a giant basketball in my abdomen. But I, I was like, I can relax.

• 47:42Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 47:42Speaker 03

  There's something about pregnancy that taught me how to relax and surrender. Yes. You have to surrender. And thank God, pregnancy teaches you that, because so much of parenting is about surrender. And like, this, this person is their own person. And it's my job to give them guardrails and boundaries and help them grow. But like, they're, I got, they're their own person.

• 48:04Kylie Kelce?

  Right. No, that, that makes a lot of sense. So, basically, you were just even more of a badass woman than you show on screen, because you were busy building humans and pretending like you weren't. And that's really hard to do, is what you're saying.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  It was hard. It was hard. But we're all, I mean, any woman, show me any woman who's a mom, and I'm like, she's a superhero.

• 48:26Kylie Kelce?

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• 49:11Kylie Kelce?

  and the tissues that have been requested by the classroom, because I will provide the things for germ prevention. Absolutely. You want two? I'll get them from CVS. I also love that I can refill, track, and manage my prescription needs anytime. The CVS Health app lets you check your prescription status on the go, and it'll tell you the moment your prescription is ready. And if you have little ones at home, you can choose same-day delivery, and it's at your front door in as little as three hours. Go to CVS.com/app to learn more and download the app now. This football season, whether you're buying tickets, booking travel, or shopping for team gear, protect your pocket with Visa. Tapping to pay without checking which card? Not a pro move. Tapping to pay with Visa? That's a pro move.

• 49:54Kylie Kelce?

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• 51:09Kylie Kelce?

  Well, fans are gonna get to see you in your next powerful role in Animals, out on Netflix, October 9th. Without giving away too many spoilers, what made you want to play Abigail?

• 51:22Speaker 03

  She's a mom, you know, to like be in, to continue the conversation we were having. She's a mom and she faces like a nightmare, like every parent's nightmare of what might happen to your child. And that, it's a thriller. The film is a thriller. It's a very exciting, like it's an edge of your seat kind of thriller. So I, I was very drawn to that. The main reason why I said yes in the beginning to even reading the script was the director, because I'm a huge Ben Affleck fan. I love Argo. I love the town. I love Gone Baby Gone. Like, I just think he's such a great director. And I knew him like casually, like we have friends

• 52:01Speaker 03

  in common. So we kind of knew each other a little bit. But I had, I just have so much respect for him as a director. So when he reached out to me and said that he had this project and it was a thriller, was I available? And I was like, well, I definitely want to read it. And then I knew I would be acting opposite him. And I loved the script for all of these reasons that like, he said to me when, when we jumped on the phone, he was like, you know, it's a thriller, but in a lot of, and the film is about a lot of things, but one of the things that it's about for me is about marriage. And I was like, well, that's interesting. And sometimes, sometimes as a woman, you'll hear that when people just like want you to do a movie. They're like, no, it's really, the wife is really important. And then you read it, you're like, she has one scene. But this was like, this really was, when I read

• 52:46Speaker 03

  it, I was like, oh, this really is about marriage and about family and about,

• 52:54Speaker 03

  about love, you know, and about community. It's about so many things, but it is also this incredible edge of your seat thriller. So there are many reasons to say yes, and I'm so happy I did.

• 53:04Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I don't know if I can share this yet, but I'm going to, and we'll see if we can keep it in. One of the lines in this movie, and I quote, is, "If you tell me again, what is an opinion about my son's life, I will rip your fucking face off."

• 53:19Kylie Kelce?

  Staying right on that mother track, how does it feel to deliver a line like that?

• 53:23Speaker 03

  I love you so much because that is my favorite line of the whole movie. I had to say that line maybe 50 times. It never got old. I love that line. And also, Stephen Yoon, who I said the line to, is just like a gem of a human being and an actor. And every time, I got like more and more aggressive mama bear protecting my son every time I said it, like to be in his face, I'll go rip your fucking face. Like, I just, I could say that line. I want that line like on my tombstone. I want that line on a T-shirt. I want that line like written on a cake. I just, yeah, it's one of my favorite lines of the whole film.

• 54:07Kylie Kelce?

  So good. I really hope we get to keep this.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  Because it really did speak to like, the heart of what it is to be a mom who's protecting your child. Like, you, you would lift up a car, you would, you go to the ends of the earth. And this person, this character that Stephen Yoon was so brilliantly playing, was like, trying to be all like strategic and sensible. And like, there's no sense to be had if my child's in danger. Like, no, don't talk to me like that.

• 54:38Kylie Kelce?

  I'll rip your fucking face off.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, rip your, but every once in a while in my work, I get to show what I like to call my original zip code as a girl from the Bronx. And when I have those moments, it makes me so happy.

• 54:52Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. Now, as a millennial, I have to ask you about a classic, Save the Last Dance.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  I mean, are you watching Dancing with the Stars?

• 55:01Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you for asking. In our house, we call it Dancing in the Stars, because that's what my three-year-old calls it.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Don't you love those little mistakes they make?

• 55:11Kylie Kelce?

  I'm writing them all down. I literally have a running note in my phone of all the things that have been said that are ridiculous.

• 55:18Speaker 03

  We still, in my house, call the remote control a marote, because that's what my daughter called it. Like, can you pass me the marote?

• 55:26Kylie Kelce?

  It was the commote for a while in our house.

• 55:31Kylie Kelce?

  My, my oldest used to, I saw, today is, today we have an Eagles game this evening, we're Monday Night Football tonight. So occasionally, you'll see like jerseys out and about. And one of the kids that was going into school this morning was wearing my husband's jersey. And on, on the way back from school, I was literally thinking to myself how our oldest used to say, you used to ask her, what number is Dad? And she would say, he's 60 number two, instead of 62. That's also in the notes app.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  That's so cute.

• 56:04Kylie Kelce?

  And it's sad, because you think to yourself, like, one day, they just stopped saying it. Like, they autocorrect.

• 56:09Speaker 03

  I know, they just grow up.

• 56:10Kylie Kelce?

  She now knows it's 62.

• 56:12Speaker 03

  It's that thing, you've seen that thing on TikTok or Instagram of like, you actually don't know when the last time you're gonna pick up your child is. It killed me. So now I'm like, giving my 12-year-old piggyback rides, because I'm just like, it can't end. I'm like, do you want to, do you want to piggyback ride to your room after volleyball practice? So she's tired. I'm like, I'll piggyback ride you to your room.

• 56:32Kylie Kelce?

  You're like, today is not the day.

• 56:34Speaker 03

  I'm gonna be like 102, like, can I pick you up?

• 56:38Kylie Kelce?

  I can't. It's so, oh, it's sad.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  I know.

• 56:42Kylie Kelce?

  But, but, you know what's not sad? Julia Stiles on Dancing in the Stars.

• 56:47Speaker 03

  So exciting that she's dancing in the stars, right?

• 56:51Kylie Kelce?

  Are you rooting?

• 56:52Speaker 03

  She's doing such a good job.

• 56:53Kylie Kelce?

  I was gonna say, are you rooting for Julia, or are you rooting for a bunch of people? Do you watch the show?

• 56:58Speaker 03

  I don't, I, I'm, where I don't watch it right in real time. I will probably, because my daughter watches old episodes, so we'll probably catch up.

• 57:06Kylie Kelce?

  That's what we do.

• 57:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, we'll catch up, I'm sure. But there's a lot of people that I really love this season. Like, I'm a Ciara fan. I'm also like such a huge Guillermo fan. I love him. Love him.

• 57:21Kylie Kelce?

  Did you see, so apparently, I don't really know the lore that much, because I really get all of my information, my additional information from TikTok. I saw, I think Whitney, his partner, is pregnant. Is this correct? I think, I'm getting nods. I'm getting enthusiastic nods, because I saw a TikTok that said, after Guillermo's first performance, that Whitney was gonna need to take her prenatals, because she was gonna be there longer than they thought.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 57:48Kylie Kelce?

  Which I love. I love. It means that like, he's surprising and everybody, and he's gonna be the fan favorite. He's adorable. I just want to put him in my pocket and take him home.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  I know, I actually have an upcoming Jimmy Kimmel appearance to support Animals, but we're like, not sure what time we're shaping, we're taping the show, because it depends on if Guillermo's in or not.

• 58:09Kylie Kelce?

  He might be busy.

• 58:10Speaker 03

  He might be busy, so we have to delay. Yeah, so good. But, but Julia has my heart. I've known her forever. I think she's killing it. I think she's extraordinary. I think this is the least that could happen, given the fact that she didn't really get to go to Juilliard in real life. So like, this is a moment. It's so exciting.

• 58:32Kylie Kelce?

  Are you aware that she's received some shade for her moves?

• 58:36Speaker 03

  About her dance?

• 58:37Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, in Save Last Dance.

• 58:38Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

• 58:40Kylie Kelce?

  Now, do you think she's using that as fuel? Because I hope so. I hope, I hope she's using it as bulletin board material.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  I think she's like, for anybody who doubted me, look at me now. Like, you can laugh all you want, but look at me now.

• 58:55Kylie Kelce?

  I love it so much. Now, one scene from Save the Last Dance that popped up on my For You page is the makeover scene in the car.

• 59:05Speaker 03

  Oh, so fun. So fun.

• 59:09Kylie Kelce?

  Your line in this is, it's country, and you look country in it.

• 59:16Kylie Kelce?

  How underrated is that scene?

• 59:19Speaker 03

  It's so good. I will tell you, my favorite thing, my favorite story about that night is, you know, we have a brief scene outside the car, when we get out of the car. We shot that scene in Chicago. It was so cold. And the entire crew, we had a lot of crew, same crew members who had shot the film Fargo, and they're all in their Fargo gear, like down coats from head to toe, boots, mittens, like earmuffs, masks, like they're so bundled up. And we're in these like cute Hollywood, nothing outfits.

• 59:51Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 59:51Speaker 03

  We're going to the club. So we're doing the scene, we're doing the scene, we're doing the scene. We're freezing. You can see the air coming out of our mouths. My feet, my hands were numb. At one point, the director, I love this director, Thomas Carter, he's so lovely. The director comes up to us and says, like, you know what, ladies? We just need to go one more time. And I learned so much in this moment, because it was my first studio film. Julia looked at the director and she said, "We will go as many times as you want if you take off your coat."

• 1:00:24Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  So he was like, okay, he took off his coat. That was our last take. He was like, this is insane. We were like, yes, it's insane.

• 1:00:33Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you for noticing.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  Yes, yes. It was, it really taught me about advocating for myself on set. Really, really.

• 1:00:41Kylie Kelce?

  Genius.

• 1:00:42Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. Yeah.

• 1:00:43Kylie Kelce?

  If we're gonna suffer, so are you. Take off the fucking coat.

• 1:00:47Speaker 03

  Just understand what you're putting us through. Like, for a moment, think about us as human beings, right? Like, it was really powerful. And I think about it even, even as a producer now, when I ask an actor to do something, I'm like, wait, let me make sure that I'm not being unreasonable. It was such a powerful moment. So she deserves all her flowers. She's a diva. She's amazing.

• 1:01:05Kylie Kelce?

  That's outstanding. Now, you're, like you said, a mom of three, two girls, one boy.

• 1:01:12Speaker 03

  Yes, correct.

• 1:01:13Kylie Kelce?

  And how old are they?

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  I, we have a 20-year-old and a, who's my bonus baby, and a, my daughter, and then a 12-year-old and a nine-year-old boy.

• 1:01:26Kylie Kelce?

  And how are you enjoying this phase now at their current ages?

• 1:01:30Speaker 03

  I love it. I like all the phases. I really do. I know some people are like, oh, I like them when they're itty bitty. I like them when they're older. I'm just fascinated by them at every age. And I'm really, I'm an only child, so the sibling thing is really fascinating to me. I really love seeing all the different dynamics of birth order and how these two are close in this way, and these two are close in this way, and the three of them are so good together. And it's really fascinating to me how, how having a sibling informs and changes your life.

• 1:02:07Kylie Kelce?

  I do think that that is, I think that there's difficult phases of parenting, like some phases are more difficult than others. Some are just more intensive than others, right? Like, like, right now, we're in a very, like, nobody's getting up and getting the, our oldest will get cereal by herself. It might end up in a mess, but like, she tried.

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  Good for you for letting the mess happen. That's super important.

• 1:02:31Kylie Kelce?

  That's what dogs are for.

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Clean the floor, please. Yeah, great.

• 1:02:38Kylie Kelce?

  Our five-year-old is still very much like, she wakes up in the morning, she comes in to find us, and so is our three-year-old. And, I mean, the one-year-old's probably next to us at some point in the night.

• 1:02:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:48Kylie Kelce?

  It's, we're in a very, like, we have more difficult phases, but, kinda like what you're saying is like, I don't necessarily think that I have a favorite. Like, I know that I love, love, love when they all have started talking, when they, you get to hear their voice, and you get to hear their version of words. And those moments are incredible. But then to watch our seven, almost seven-year-old navigate friends at school and sort of stepping into her confidence. And just the other day, I said something, I don't remember what I said, but I made a comment, and she was like, we don't talk about our bodies like that. Because it was something where I was

• 1:03:31Kylie Kelce?

  like, I was like, something, I had to be like that my pants were tight or something. And she was like, we don't talk about our bodies like that. And I was like, this is such a win for me.

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 1:03:44Kylie Kelce?

  That I finally repeated it enough that it has sunk in, and you are now giving it back. It's moments like that where I'm like, how can you not enjoy watching them become themselves? It's so, like, it's so much fun. And to get to be there the whole way.

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  It's such a privilege, right, to watch somebody evolve and come into themselves. And, like, I remember, you remember, there's a point in their childhood where every single thing they say, you know where it came from. You know, like, who said that? What, what they were watching, or which family member are they repeating? And then, there's that period where they start going to school, preschool, daycare, and suddenly they come home and you're like, where, where did that come from? Right? Like, even just that, where you're like, oh, I, I no longer have a singular control over what you're exposed to. And I just, I think it's such a privilege to get to witness and guide and hold space for them.

• 1:04:46Kylie Kelce?

  Now, you've shared that you're a stepmother to your oldest. You called her your bonus baby. I feel like stepparents rarely get the appreciation and the spotlight that they deserve. What's been the most rewarding part of being a stepmom?

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  I'm just so lucky. You know what I mean? Like, I just, I just.

• 1:05:06Kylie Kelce?

  The privilege continues, right?

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  Yes, like, to control my smile. Like, I'm just so lucky to get to love her and to know her and to, to be on her parenting team, you know? Like, I, I feel so blessed. And, and the relationship that my three kids have with each other is so beautiful and such a gift. And I think a lot about, you know, I wrote this memoir a few years ago called Thicker Than Water, because I, long story short, found out that my dad is not my biological father. And that moment of my parents admitting that to me, like, really changed the, my family immensely.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  But one of the things that I write about in the book is like, it doesn't matter, he's my dad. Like, this idea of, you know, having to be blood-related to somebody, it's, it, I, I realize, actually, when I knew the truth about not being biologically related to my dad, it actually brought us closer. It didn't make us further apart. It didn't estrange us from each other. It actually made our relationship more honest and intimate. And that is one of the greatest gifts of my life, is being able to have that relationship with my parents, to be in truth with them while they're still alive.

• 1:06:34Kylie Kelce?

  That's such a beautiful way to take your own experience and get to apply it to being a stepmom. And knowing that, like, just because you are not related by DNA, that you still choose every single day that that person is your child.

• 1:06:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:51Kylie Kelce?

  And that you will parent them and love them and pour into them in the same way that you would, no matter what. That's so beautiful.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  I think these kids choose us, you know what I mean? Like, the ones that come through us, the ones that wind up in our lives in other ways. Like, we're so lucky to just be on this earth together. Family is so, it's so precious, and it happens in so many different ways. And so I feel really grateful.

• 1:07:16Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I also want to congratulate you on more exciting news. Your show, Street You Grew Up On, is now officially a weekly podcast.

• 1:07:24Speaker 03

  I mean, I, all the kids are doing it, Kylie.

• 1:07:29Kylie Kelce?

  They just give anybody a mic out here, huh?

• 1:07:32Speaker 03

  Out in these streets. So, okay, with, this is actually, it's weird, because it's actually our fifth season, but it's our first season as a podcast. So it's been a, a digital series for a few years. I started it during the pandemic. My production company is named after the street in the Bronx that my mother grew up on, Simpson Street. And so I just started interviewing people that I love about the streets that they grew up on. And in our first season, it was like Michelle Obama and Eva Longoria, like, just people that I was like, what are you doing? It's a pandemic. Will you come talk to me about the street you grew up on? And, and so now, we're like, an official podcast with 20 guests this season, and weekly, coming out weekly. It's, it's very exciting. And it's hard work. That's why I can't believe you're doing this with four little itty bitties.

• 1:08:17Kylie Kelce?

  Well, you know, when I get to talk to incredible people like you, I, it really, it'll draw you out. Now, people ask me this, and I've ended up speaking my answer into existence. Okay. Michelle Obama being the answer at the time. And then, I've never been sweatier in my entire life.

• 1:08:39Kylie Kelce?

  In this exact chair, I'm not kidding, it was like, two hours after, and I swear, I still had pit stains. At some point, I had to wipe my lip sweat away. It was a problem. It was a problem.

• 1:08:49Speaker 03

  Did it go well?

• 1:08:51Kylie Kelce?

  I think so. She's incre, I, I genuinely think, like, she could make anybody, like, you know, those people who just have that way about them that sort of

• 1:09:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:09:02Kylie Kelce?

  make their team look better? Like, I always equate it to, like, team sports. I know I have had teammates that, like, just make the rest of your team better, because of the way they bring everybody up. That was her. So I think I could have literally said three words, and she would have just, she would have taken the reins and saved me from myself.

• 1:09:21Speaker 03

  She's special.

• 1:09:22Kylie Kelce?

  She's amazing.

• 1:09:22Speaker 03

  But I'm sure you were amazing as well.

• 1:09:24Kylie Kelce?

  That's very kind of you. I wouldn't know, I was sweating and blacking out.

• 1:09:29Speaker 03

  You're like, I blacked out, yeah.

• 1:09:30Kylie Kelce?

  I actually have no idea what happened. Now, do you have a dream guest?

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  He's gonna kill me for saying this, but my dream guest is Nomi.

• 1:09:41Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, perfect answer. We have had my husband on this podcast twice now? Three times?

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  How did it go?

• 1:09:49Kylie Kelce?

  Three times, three times.

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  Did he behave well? Was he a good guest?

• 1:09:52Kylie Kelce?

  He was. We did a, I say that only because, did he behave? No, he never behaves. That's part of his charm. And he ended up using a candy heart, we did a Valentine's Day episode. He used a candy heart to write on the wall of the studio as if it was chalk. So, no, he did not behave.

• 1:10:16Kylie Kelce?

  But it was, it was so much fun to get to sit down and, in an interview-style conversation. I mean, we talk every day. To then get to talk in a more question-answer-interview style, it was, it was kind of fun. Like, it was a new adventure to navigate. Well, I hope that he comes on, because that would be very exciting. So hopefully, we manifested it. Maybe we peer pressured him into it a little bit.

• 1:10:43Speaker 03

  Maybe. He doesn't respond well to peer pressure. We have to be like, it's fine either way, and then maybe.

• 1:10:48Kylie Kelce?

  No, however, however you want to do it.

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  Whatever you want, it's fine.

• 1:10:51Kylie Kelce?

  But if you want to end up there, that'd be great. So great. Thank you so much for coming on. This has been absolutely incredible. Make sure you watch Carrie in her new movie, Animals, on Netflix out October 9. This was incredible. Thank you so, so much.

• 1:11:10Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me. I'm so grateful.

• 1:11:12Kylie Kelce?

  And that's it for this episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Carrie on my YouTube channel on More Ship Monday. Follow on social media at @NGOWithKylie for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Allstate. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in.

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