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Transcript 0:06 Speaker 00 Hello and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we're gonna bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. Y'all, oh my God, we did it. It is episode 10, the last episode of season eight, the last episode of my first season as captain of this gossip ship. Anyone who knows me will not be surprised that I simply cannot let this moment pass without talking about my feelings. And if there's anything I've learned from watching exactly five episodes of Below Deck Australia, it's that as the captain, I get to do whatever I want. So,
0:47 Speaker 00 I'm gonna be so honest right now and say that the past few months have been some of the hardest of my life. I don't really have a hard job. Like, I'm actually really fond of saying that there's no such thing as a podcast emergency. Like, I'm not a nurse, or a teacher, or a plumber, or even a cashier at Trader Joe's. Why don't they let them sit down? Like, Trader Joe's, let them sit down. Anyway, most of my days are spent sitting behind my desk in the comfort of my home, which means that I'm very aware of the fact that I make my job much harder than it needs to be. A week or so after season eight launched, our business guy, Jasper Wang, told me something that has really stuck
1:31 Speaker 00 with me. He had asked how I felt about the premiere, which had honestly gone better than anyone could have ever really anticipated. Like, host transitions in the podcast world tend to be pretty divisive, so we were all kind of just waiting to see what would happen. And what happened was a level of kindness and support and grace from y'all, our audience, our little gossip birds, that continues to humble me to this day. But at the time when Jasper asked me how it was going, all I could really think about was how much I wish I could have changed in that first episode, and with how much I wish I could still change
2:11 Speaker 00 in every episode that has released. And Jasper told me that this show requires the host to be a perfectionist, but the structure of it might actually be kind of perfectly designed to drive perfectionists insane. Every episode y'all hear has been recorded about four to five weeks in advance. The script has been finished before that. And after the story is recorded, my incredible partner, Ciara Spragley-Ricks, turns what can be two hours of tape into the final episode y'all hear. And as a writer at heart, I'm used to being able to edit until the very last minute. And to some degree, I still have that ability as a host. Like, sometimes we're making little precision cuts the day before the episode launches because there's like a pause that's too long.
2:56 Speaker 00 But once an episode is recorded, I can't really change anything essential to the story. I can't edit the way I laugh. And I certainly cannot edit my way into being Kelsey. I mean, like, I could try, but I don't think any of us would actually be happy with the outcome. This is getting really, really long, so I'm gonna wrap up this feelings corner with what I actually really want to say, which is that as someone who is almost never satisfied with the quality of their own work, I have been so absolutely blown away by how well this first season has gone. It has been so deeply humbling to learn on such a public stage. I think if I didn't have a team behind me and an ad calendar to abide by, I would
3:41 Speaker 00 probably still be tinkering with that first episode. So it really, truly means so much to me that from that very first episode, y'all have been so vocal in expressing how much you've been enjoying my time as the captain of this ship, even as I feel like I'm figuring out exactly what direction we're going in. Y'all are easily the best and easiest part of this job. It is so much fun to be in the middle of writing a script or going through gossip stories or booking guests and thinking, ugh, they're gonna fucking love this one. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you all for making my job easy. That is the end of Feelings Corner. I'm so excited to meet some of you all this September
4:26 Speaker 00 on tour. Tickets for Ciara and I's very first tour went on sale on Friday, May 9th. So that means that if you are listening right now and live in New York, Boston, Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Denver, Dallas, Austin, Chicago, or Minneapolis, then you can go buy a ticket immediately at normalgossiplive.com. We are already dreaming up the live show. It's gonna be so fucking fun. And I guarantee that I will cry out of gratitude at at least one of these shows. Probably more than one if I'm being honest. So if you want to place bets on which city it'll be, that could be a fun game.
5:10 Speaker 00 Anyway, that is all the housekeeping for today's show. Now on to the gossip. Today for our season eight, season finale, I am so excited to be joined by none other than Shay Kool-Aid. Shay Kool-Aid is an internationally acclaimed, non-binary drag artist, actor, and recording artist from Chicago. You might know them from a little program called RuPaul's Drag Race. Yeah, Shay won season five of Drag Race All Stars, so they are a legend among legends. Starting June 24th, you can catch Shay as a series regular in Marvel's Ironheart
5:48 Speaker 00 on Disney+. I am well and truly so honored to be joined by Shay. Shay, hello. Thank you so much for joining me.
5:59 Speaker 01 Hey, Rachel. Oh, my God. It is so good to finally be here. I know that like this has been something that's been in the works for like a little minute. And I'm just like, oh, my God, today is the day.
6:09 Speaker 00 I'm literally so honored that you're here. This is like such an exciting crossover event for me. The story I have for you is one of my favorites. Before we get into it, I did want to ask, what's your relationship with gossip?
6:25 Speaker 01 I don't really spill a lot of tea. My cup. Run it over like it really people love to like pour in stories to me because I'm a really good listener. I'm like that person catches a lot without even trying. And then like probably the two or three people in my like closest circle when it's like really juicy. I'll like spill it because it's it's always coming. It's gotta go somewhere. You know what I'm saying? So I'll give it to my partner. I'll give it to like my like two other besties. And like that's normally where it lies, but I catch a lot of tea.
7:02 Speaker 00 Yes, yes, yes. The little birdie told me that you have some gossip for me.
7:07 Speaker 01 Oh, oh, yes. Oh, my gosh. Oof, this one. Oh, baby.
7:19 Speaker 01 This was like 2010. I'm freshly 21 years old. And um, at this time, this was like one of like the nicest places I've ever lived in. It didn't make sense, but like my friend's dad owned this condo. It's like two floors, right? And there was like three of us that lived there. And we shared this kind of like loft space upstairs. And our other roommate, we'll call him Tito. Tito, he was precious, sweet kid from Wisconsin, but like conservative.
8:03 Speaker 01 Um, nice. We were opposites, very much so like different human beings. So anyway, you know, he's supposed to be gone for like the weekend going to this game. I'm at a friend's housewarming party and meet this couple. Them and then this other guy having a good old time, right? So I was just like, oh, my God, like, you know, I have this really cute little condo. And we could go back there and like keep hanging out.
8:38 Speaker 00 Oh.
8:41 Speaker 01 We're chilling there and I remember like when we walked in, you know, like lights are all off, like just how it left the place. But we had this entryway that you would come through and then like the kitchen was to the right. And on top of like the bar, cause there was kind of like a countertop eating situation. There was a pack of beer and I remember walking in and like we were already like three sheets to the wind.
9:15 Speaker 00 Yeah.
9:16 Speaker 01 But I remember walking in and noticing that specific thing in my kitchen that I did not remember seeing before I left. And I was like, hmm, that's a little odd. But anyway, we're having a good time. There's this like L shaped leather sectional. Next thing I know, all four of us are like butt naked, getting it on full on foursome, early twenty one, early drinking days messy.
9:45 Speaker 00 Yes.
9:45 Speaker 01 This couple, Tim and Jim, myself and Lorenzo, while Tito was supposed to be out of town.
9:54 Speaker 00 Oh, no. Oh, no, not sweet conservative Tito.
9:59 Speaker 01 Had the most fabulous night.
10:03 Speaker 01 And I wake up the next morning and Tito is sitting there like in the kitchen, like eating a bowl of cereal, just so quiet. And I like have this moment where I like look at that beer on the counter. And then I look at him over on the table and I was just so like, he was in his bedroom. On the first floor, yeah, because it was like past that entryway, like his bedroom was like the first thing that you walked in. So, you know, whatever. Walked right on past it into the living room. Had this crazy foursome.
10:39 Speaker 00 Mm hmm.
10:40 Speaker 01 And poor little Tito was like locked up in his room the entire time and heard everything. Everything. Talk about gossip.
10:55 Speaker 01 He heard it. Everything.
10:58 Speaker 00 Oh, my god.
10:59 Speaker 01 I was like, hmm, I only like acted out in such just like, you know, a crazy way because I was like, I have the place myself.
11:08 Speaker 00 Yes, yes.
11:09 Speaker 01 So like, of course, we go get busy.
11:11 Speaker 00 Of course. Take advantage of all that space.
11:14 Speaker 01 So, yeah, I made sure I gave that leather couch like a good, nice and like bite down.
11:20 Speaker 00 That's really considerate.
11:24 Speaker 00 I wonder if Tito is also telling this gossip some way, you know?
11:34 Speaker 00 Like, I, I want to hear Tito's side of this story.
11:37 Speaker 01 My gosh, I'm just thinking of him just like clutching his cover.
11:42 Speaker 00 No, exactly. He would not be telling it with like the joy that you told it. It would be like.
11:47 Speaker 01 Horror story. Like sharp violins, just like shee, like, you know.
11:53 Speaker 00 Yes, yes. Wow. Um, that was incredible gossip. And now I have some for you. Are you ready?
12:02 Speaker 01 Oh, yes, I am so ready.
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15:00 Speaker 00 Today, our friend of a friend is named Lynn. And Lynn is in her mid to late twenties. And for most of her life, Lynn has lived in one of the square states, like Wyoming, New Mexico.
15:18 Speaker 01 I worked in Wyoming once and it's very square.
15:21 Speaker 00 It's so square. It's so, it's so perfectly square. This is where Lynn got her bachelor's degree in philosophy.
15:30 Speaker 00 This is where Lynn met her boyfriend and this is also where Lynn spent the first year of the pandemic.
15:37 Speaker 01 Okay.
15:38 Speaker 00 So, our story takes place in 2021 and like a lot of people in 2021, our girl Lynn isn't entirely sure what her life is gonna look like over the next few years.
15:51 Speaker 01 Tea.
15:55 Speaker 00 Not relatable at all.
15:58 Speaker 01 We were all scratching our heads like.
16:02 Speaker 00 Certainly didn't have an existential crisis.
16:04 Speaker 01 Oh, my goodness. Every day.
16:07 Speaker 00 Yeah. So Lynn has spent the last few years working as a technical writer, which she doesn't love doing, but it was a fully remote job during the pandemic. So she's pretty grateful for it. Lynn is at the point where she is seriously considering a PhD in philosophy, which I think we all know is a cry for help.
16:33 Speaker 01 I, okay, I have a friend who has their minor in philosophy, and I will say they're one of the most charismatic people I've ever met.
16:48 Speaker 00 I mean, a minor, that I can see that.
16:50 Speaker 01 You'd be like, okay, I'm getting a PhD in charisma with a minor in uniqueness, with a focus on nerve and an emphasis on talent.
16:59 Speaker 00 Definitely uniqueness. I will say it's definitely unique.
17:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
17:06 Speaker 00 Have you ever had a moment like this in your life where you're kind of just like grasping at straws? And you're like, maybe I will finally move to LA.
17:14 Speaker 01 Uh, no.
17:16 Speaker 00 No?
17:17 Speaker 01 No, that, uh, like, I don't like to think about the apocalypse, but if and when.
17:26 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:27 Speaker 01 Chicago's a really great place to be.
17:29 Speaker 00 That is so real. That is really real. I have been thinking about this. Fresh water.
17:34 Speaker 01 I could walk to it right over there.
17:35 Speaker 00 Yes, yes. And there's no like real natural disasters, like you're not by the coast, no wildfires.
17:41 Speaker 01 No fires.
17:41 Speaker 00 No, I, yes, correct.
17:43 Speaker 01 About to be all apocalyptic.
17:47 Speaker 01 But I think about that.
17:48 Speaker 00 Yeah. Yeah. Lynn also doesn't really have strong feelings about LA, but she doesn't have strong feelings about anything right now. She's like searching for any kind of motivation.
18:02 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:03 Speaker 00 So when her boyfriend Cameron develops a new obsession during like the second season of the pandemic, Lynn is like, you know what? Fuck it. A passion is a passion. And Lynn and Cameron have been dating for almost two years now. It's one of those relationships that probably lasted longer than it should have because they had gone through lockdown together.
18:27 Speaker 01 Got you. People were like, I'm afraid to be alone.
18:30 Speaker 00 Yes. And Cameron has always been a good boyfriend. He has an incredible memory, so he always remembers little details about Lynn's life. And he's tall and he's really good in bed.
18:42 Speaker 01 Okay, come on, Lynn.
18:45 Speaker 00 And Cameron's one true passion in life right now is bees. How do you feel about bees?
18:51 Speaker 01 I mean, we need bees.
18:53 Speaker 00 We do.
18:54 Speaker 01 They're them. So he's out here trying to save bees.
18:59 Speaker 00 Yeah. Yeah. Cameron knows a lot about bees, but Cameron's new obsession has less to do with bees and more to do with a place that we are gonna call Honeydew Farms.
19:11 Speaker 01 Honeydew Farms.
19:13 Speaker 00 Honeydew Farms.
19:14 Speaker 01 Okay. Tastes sweet like Honeydew Farms. Okay.
19:20 Speaker 00 So Honeydew Farms is a worker owned bee farm in the woods of Northeast America, and it's kind of a big deal in the bee world. They've got like half a million followers on TikTok and Instagram. They do like educational videos detailing how male honeybees are kicked out of the hive during the winter, which I find to be iconic.
19:45 Speaker 01 Bye.
19:46 Speaker 00 Exactly. They're like, you're not helping us.
19:48 Speaker 01 You're not helping. Bye. You're not gonna eat this, no.
19:52 Speaker 00 Exactly.
19:52 Speaker 01 Queens.
19:55 Speaker 00 But if you look at the comments on the Honeydew Farms videos, it is very easy to tell that a decent chunk of the audience is there because a lot of the beekeepers are hot. And because all the hot beekeepers really seem to love each other. Like, they have incredible on-screen chemistry. It's kind of giving like the Bon Appetit Test Kitchen before it imploded.
20:22 Speaker 01 Mmm, okay, yes, no, I see where we're, okay. Mm-hmm, okay, I'm listening, I'm actively listening to what I give you.
20:35 Speaker 00 Well, just like the Bon Appetit Test Kitchen circa 2019, Honeydew Farms is doing really well financially. Well enough that like in early 2021, they open up a few six-month-long apprenticeships on the farm. And Cameron obviously applies. He has Lynn help him film his little video to go along with his application. And in May, Cameron finds out he's been accepted to Honeydew Farms. So now our girl Lynn has a choice. She can either fill out grad school applications in her square state, or she can go with Cameron to Honeydew Farms for six months. But before Lynn can really make her decision,
21:19 Speaker 00 she has to think about Raven. Do you have any like D-list celebrity crushes? Like people you could feasibly run into at an event?
21:29 Speaker 01 Oh, my God, oh, oh, my God, that is, ooh, that is a good one. All the people I'm attracted to are also A-list. I have such incredible, high-end tastes.
21:42 Speaker 00 Such great taste. I don't go for D-list celebrity.
21:47 Speaker 01 I'm like, oh, I'm like, no, I'm trying to screw up.
21:50 Speaker 00 Yeah, I, I actually think that is a great
21:55 Speaker 00 way to live your life.
22:00 Speaker 00 So Raven is one of Cameron's D-list celebrity crushes. And Raven just happens to be one of the stars of Honeydew Farms. Raven's been working at Honeydew for nearly five years now. And Lynn is mature enough to admit that Raven is objectively like cool as hell. She has like 90s Julia Roberts hair.
22:23 Speaker 01 Bad hair. We go up for Julia Roberts.
22:26 Speaker 00 Yes, and she looks really cool. She's always wearing these like really nice red cowboy boots. Like, she's a third generation beekeeper and she's famous on the Honeydew Farms channel for never, ever getting stung by a bee, even after like sticking her hand in the beehive with no gloves.
22:46 Speaker 01 Wow.
22:48 Speaker 00 So like before he even applied to the six month of print-ship, Cameron couldn't shut up about Raven.
22:55 Speaker 01 Oh, Cameron. Cameron, he's simple.
23:01 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:02 Speaker 01 I mean, sorry to just jump to a snap judgment conclusion, Cameron.
23:07 Speaker 00 That's the point of the show, is snap judgment conclusions.
23:11 Speaker 01 It's giving a little bit simple. Yeah, a little bit simple.
23:16 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah. But Lynn is like, you know what? Everyone is allowed their little crushes, including my boyfriend. And Cameron has always been such a good boyfriend to her and he is so tall. And he's so good in bed. So she's like, a crush is a crush.
23:33 Speaker 01 Yeah. She's like flirt all you want with little Raven, just as long as you just be coming home, bringing all that back to mama.
23:44 Speaker 00 So do you let your boyfriend go to the sexy beekeeping farm where his crush lives by himself? Or do you go with him?
23:52 Speaker 01 Oh, oh.
23:58 Speaker 01 I mean, change the scenery, change the pace.
24:01 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
24:03 Speaker 01 Uh.
24:04 Speaker 00 It's only six months.
24:05 Speaker 01 Oh, and six months is gonna fly by, girl, yeah.
24:08 Speaker 00 Yeah.
24:08 Speaker 01 Yeah. Mm-hmm. We gotta, we gotta go meet this friend Raven together.
24:15 Speaker 01 The three of us are gonna become best friends.
24:17 Speaker 00 Mm-hmm. So you and Lynn are on the same page. Lynn decides to go with Cameron. Uh, she told us, quote, "It was pretty exciting to tag along on something like this. Not only was there this weird internet celebrity aspect, but the beekeeping community is kind of romantic and strange."
24:38 Speaker 01 Oh, okay.
24:41 Speaker 01 It's giving wanderlust.
24:43 Speaker 00 Well, at first Lynn loves living on Honeydew Farms. Like, up until this point, she pretty much spent her entire life studying or working a desk job, so it's really refreshing to live off the land. She's never had eggs this fresh in her entire life. Everywhere she looks, there are mountains in the distance. The staff at Honeydew Farms lives in crew houses on the property, and the house that Cameron and Lynn are given is honestly nicer than the apartment they had been splitting back home in the square state.
25:14 Speaker 01 Oh.
25:14 Speaker 00 Like, there's a skylight in the kitchen and an outdoor shower and floor-to-ceiling windows.
25:21 Speaker 01 Bang!
25:22 Speaker 00 Right?
25:23 Speaker 01 Okay, I see you letting Cameron, okay? Good choice, girl, I see. We made the right choice, Lynn.
25:29 Speaker 00 You did. Well, Lynn finds out a few days after arriving that the renovation was apparently fully paid for by a fan of the Honeydew Farms channel. Like, just a random subscriber donated a shit ton of money. What would you expect everyone's vibe at Honeydew Farms to be like?
25:45 Speaker 01 So, it's giving, um, I feel like they fucking.
25:54 Speaker 01 I feel like they really are. It's giving, um, yeah, no, they, they, it's giving, like, folks are passing it around. Like, it's not just the joint, but like, they're passing, they're passing it around over at Honeydew Farms. Like, it's just like, oh, yeah. That is what my gut said. So I said, let me just speak that out. Well, I don't, you know, we still, we still have some story to go, but I just feel like they fuck it.
26:19 Speaker 00 We do, but definitely keep that in mind. Keep that, keep that suspicion in mind.
26:25 Speaker 00 So the vibe of everyone is what Lynn was most nervous about. Like, I'm sure we've had the experience of meeting internet famous people in real life and being like,
26:42 Speaker 00 yeah.
26:44 Speaker 00 But everyone at Honeydew Farms is actually like really cool and down to earth. They tell Lynn that the bees keep them humble. Lynn's like, this is working out great. She's still working her technical writer job and saving a bunch of money since she's not paying rent. And Cameron's having a great time. He keeps talking about how Raven is even cooler in person, but Lynn is still like, a crush is a crush and I have access to all the honey I could ever want. So everything's going great.
27:11 Speaker 01 All right, Mariah Carey.
27:15 Speaker 01 Have access to all the honey I want. Okay, what you mean by that, Lynn?
27:19 Speaker 00 So the very first time Lynn thinks that she maybe made a mistake is the first time that she sees Cameron and Raven interacting IRL. Like, every other week, all the beekeepers hang out at a bar in town. And as soon as Lynn walks into her very first of these happy hours, she's immediately like, uh-oh. It is so clear that Raven and Cameron have insane chemistry. Like Lynn told us, they were both two big goofballs, passionate about beekeeping with their little inside jokes and these looks that they give each other. And the inside jokes are the kind that aren't even funny, you know? Like Cameron is always asking Raven if she
28:03 Speaker 00 has an extra hair tie, but he'll just add the extra hair tie to his man bun, which was already tied down.
28:14 Speaker 01 Um, I would be so turned off. I'd be like, baby, what?
28:22 Speaker 00 Yeah. Do you think this is worth having a conversation about?
28:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, I would be like, what was that?
28:29 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:29 Speaker 01 Because if you're gonna, if you're gonna flirt, I have little things in front of me, they better be fucking captivating.
28:35 Speaker 00 No. They, these jokes better be funny.
28:39 Speaker 01 Like, we out here together, so we are representations of each other.
28:47 Speaker 00 Yes.
28:48 Speaker 01 And corny flirting, putting extra hair ties in your man bun, that is corny loser behavior.
28:55 Speaker 00 It is corny.
28:56 Speaker 01 Don't do that, baby. Don't do me like that.
28:59 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:59 Speaker 01 Not out here, not with all these influencers.
29:01 Speaker 00 Not with all these strangers.
29:03 Speaker 01 Not with the bee people.
29:07 Speaker 01 Everybody will be a buzz.
29:14 Speaker 00 Well, Lynn does bring it up with Cameron, but Cameron kind of just makes Lynn feel like it's her problem. He's like, jealousy is a totally normal emotion, but I actually think it's kind of retrograde for you to think that I can't have expansive friendships with women and still be devoted to you. And then he's like, trying to control your partner is actually kind of emotionally immature. Cameron tells Lynn that basically everyone at Honeydew Farms is non-monogamous, which Cameron thinks is so interesting and super evolved. And this isn't the first time Cameron has dropped some not so subtle hints and Lynn has mostly ignored these.
29:54 Speaker 01 Oh.
29:55 Speaker 00 Until she meets Chase. Chase is one of the hot beekeepers at Honeydew Farms. He's a Marxist and he's got like salt and pepper hair.
30:05 Speaker 01 Oh, ooh, okay, daddy. Wait, what is it? Chase? Is it? That were, mhm, okay.
30:14 Speaker 00 Chase has been married to his wife for 10 years and both of them live on the farm and their marriage is open.
30:19 Speaker 01 Okay.
30:21 Speaker 00 Up until this point, Lynn's always been monogamous, but now she's like, I can't lie. I'm a little intrigued.
30:27 Speaker 01 Uh huh. Mm hmm. Because little Mr. Cameron out here with Raven, I can only imagine her meeting this chase.
30:38 Speaker 00 Yes.
30:39 Speaker 01 Pepper, a little seasoned, you know, seasoned.
30:44 Speaker 00 Out on the farm.
30:45 Speaker 01 Mm.
30:46 Speaker 00 Probably wearing a flannel.
30:47 Speaker 01 Oh, I'm I'm imagining like the Brony man like all grown up.
30:51 Speaker 00 Oh, yes.
30:54 Speaker 00 Yes. Yeah, you and Lynn are actually on the exact same page because Lynn is not feeling super attracted to Cameron right now.
31:01 Speaker 01 Man, yeah, I feel you, girl.
31:02 Speaker 00 Between his crush on Raven and the fact that he's been acting a little weird since they came to Honeydew Farms.
31:10 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
31:11 Speaker 00 Like, the whole reason they had come was because Cameron was obsessed with bees, right? But he doesn't even really seem to care that much about learning the ins and outs of beekeeping. Instead, when Cameron comes home, all he can talk about, besides Raven, is what content is being filmed that day? Or like what advertisers Honeydew Farms is working with? Lynn can't help but notice how often Cameron appears shirtless in the back of like the Honeydew Farms live streams. And she's like, that doesn't seem wise considering they're working with bees. But what do I know? It is giving her a little bit of the ick.
31:47 Speaker 01 I'm feeling it too. I'm feeling it too, girl. Like, my stomach is literally going. Like, it is churning, like, I'm sitting here listening to this in the way. Man bun shirtless.
32:03 Speaker 00 Yeah.
32:04 Speaker 01 In the background of these live streams. Oh, my God.
32:08 Speaker 00 It is corny. That's such a perfect word for it. Like, it's so corny.
32:12 Speaker 01 Like, it's just, oh, the way my coochie was right up.
32:16 Speaker 00 Yeah, so our girl Lynn is in a bit of a conundrum because she's kind of starting to get the ick from Cameron. But she's also like, we can't break up. Where will I live?
32:27 Speaker 01 Right, right.
32:30 Speaker 00 Yeah. All of this comes to a head a few weeks after Cameron and Lynn arrive at Honeydew Farms. The staff throws their annual Midsummer's night party. There is.
32:41 Speaker 01 My God. Because I was like, this is already giving like midsummer and like this way.
32:51 Speaker 00 It's got weed infused honey. They've got honey wine. They've got shrooms that are probably also somehow infused with honey, I'm sure.
32:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, they're gonna go through another plane.
33:01 Speaker 00 Yeah, so Lynn decides to partake of the shrooms.
33:05 Speaker 01 I'm sure. Hmm, yeah, it's a party.
33:08 Speaker 00 Yeah, so Lynn's on her little shroom trip and she's hanging out by the fire when she sees Cameron and Raven like sidle up to each other. And she's feeling a mix of emotions and then she sees Chase, our hot Marxist, sitting with his wife. And Chase catches Lynn's eye and winks and Chase's wife smiles at Lynn.
33:31 Speaker 01 Yes, Lynn, Lynn, you better, Lynn.
33:36 Speaker 00 Lynn is like, maybe it's the shrooms, but I feel like I'm having an epiphany.
33:40 Speaker 01 Go and be at the top of that sexy little pyramid. This triangle, girl.
33:49 Speaker 00 Yes, Lynn looks back and forth between Cameron and Raven and then she looks at Chase and his wife. And Lynn's like, what if my relationship doesn't need to end? What if it needs to grow?
34:19 Speaker 00 So later that night Lynn tells Cameron that she wants to open their relationship and Cameron is over the moon. He's like, we should talk to Raven about this. She's been non-monogamous forever. Lynn's like, you know what, whatever, knowledge is power. Except when they talk to Raven the next day, Raven is suddenly acting really fucking weird. Like Raven is Miss Tough Bitch who doesn't get stung. Except now Lynn told us Raven's talking to me in this voice like a wounded little animal. Like a bit like how Mia God speaks and this is how she will talk to me for the rest of my relationship with Cameron.
35:00 Speaker 01 No, not that, not Raven, ew. What, I hope she called her out. I would be like, miss, stop it. That's why, why are you being like this?
35:13 Speaker 00 Well, now that Lynn is no longer high on mushrooms and it's the light of day and she's hearing Raven's weird little wounded animal voice, Lynn's like, what the fuck did I agree to?
35:22 Speaker 01 Oh, my god.
35:24 Speaker 00 What's your like usual response to stress?
35:26 Speaker 01 I just wanna lay in bed and like doom scroll.
35:30 Speaker 00 Yeah.
35:30 Speaker 01 Or eat.
35:31 Speaker 00 Yes, yes. Those are also some of my stress responses. One of them I have is Googling. Like, I think it's because my mom was a researcher, but if I'm ever feeling anxious about something, I try to find like as much information about it, cuz I'm like, then I can control the outcome, right? And this has never once backfired for me. I've never had to block my own access to WebMD cuz I thought I had cancer when I didn't.
35:57 Speaker 01 WebMD will get ya.
36:00 Speaker 01 She will get ya.
36:01 Speaker 00 She's dangerous. Yeah. Lynn has the same kind of response. Lynn's like, mama, let's research. She basically becomes like a self-taught scholar of non-monogamy. She speed reads PolySecure and The Anxious Person's Guide to Non-Monogamy. She learns about the Relationship Escalator and its alternative, the Relationship Menu. She learns that being polyamorous doesn't actually mean like a free-for-all. She still gets to have boundaries, which is why one night, while she and Cameron are in bed, Lynn turns to Cameron and she's like, I wanna start this new chapter of our relationship out on a strong note. And then she's like, if I'm being so honest, I don't think I would feel secure in this relationship if you were to hook up with Raven. Do you think this is a fair boundary?
36:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, it is absolutely is. Boundaries are part of it. It isn't a free-for-all.
36:51 Speaker 00 Yeah. Lynn's honestly like a little worried when she asked him not to hook up with Raven because of all this, but Cameron's like, you know what? I totally get that. I want you to feel secure, so I won't hook up with Raven. Do you believe him?
37:04 Speaker 01 No.
37:07 Speaker 01 No, no, ma- no. Never trust somebody with a man bun, sweetie.
37:15 Speaker 00 Yeah.
37:16 Speaker 01 What is he hiding up there?
37:17 Speaker 00 Exactly.
37:18 Speaker 01 What is he hiding up there?
37:20 Speaker 00 His hair is full of secrets.
37:21 Speaker 01 Secrets, yeah, girl.
37:24 Speaker 00 At first Cameron is true to his word. Give him credit, he starts dating another beekeeper at Honeydew Farms named Vanessa, which would be fine, except that Vanessa is Raven's best friend. So Lynn's like, that's a little bit weird. And Raven in her weird little baby animal voice is like, they're so cute. So Lynn's like, I can't pitch a fit if Raven doesn't care.
37:48 Speaker 01 Okay, with the act, Raven.
37:51 Speaker 00 At this point Lynn and Chase are hot Marxists, have officially started dating. So Lynn is a little bit like, you do you, I don't actually care. Like Chase has a motorcycle, so she spends a lot of afternoons on like winding mountain roads on the back of his bike. She's like, I don't give a fuck what you're doing back at the farm.
38:08 Speaker 01 I wouldn't give a fuck either Lynn, if I was riding on the back of that motorcycle in the woods. Oh my god.
38:13 Speaker 00 With Mr. Bronny, yes.
38:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, those vibrations, oh my god.
38:17 Speaker 00 Exactly. And like, honestly, for a while, things actually go well in this newly open relationship. In addition to Lynn's request that Cameron hold off on dating Raven, they set down some ground rules. So rule number one is if they like someone, they have to talk about it first and tread lightly since they're living in like a really tight knit community, so word gets around very easily. Rule number two, no dates in the house. And then rule number three, for sexual health reasons, they have to check in with each other before getting physical.
38:48 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:49 Speaker 00 Lynn told us, at the end of the day, we were gonna do what we wanted to do, but the point was to show care and consideration, to not blindside anyone. So at this point in our story, Lynn is elated. She's like, we're being so mature, everyone should be poly. Chase has been non-monogamous for so long that by being in a relationship with him, Lynn is like, I'm learning so much about myself and my own boundaries and like what I want in a relationship. She even starts volunteering at Honeydew Farms on the weekends so she can spend more time with Chase. She texts him with Cameron first to see if that would be too much. She's like, I can totally pump the brakes, Chase and I are just having fun. And Cameron's like, it's a little weird, but I'm willing to work through the discomfort. Do you have any experience with non-monogamy? I feel like straight people have only recently discovered it, like in the past 10 years.
39:35 Speaker 01 Um, yes, it's really about like what she said, setting boundaries. So that like, everybody feels comfortable and like, safe and like, taken care of and being able to have like, conversations. I'm actually really shocked that Cameron, Mr. Shirtless Man Bun, is able to navigate these complex
40:02 Speaker 00 Right.
40:02 Speaker 01 conversations. Like, it actually, I'm sitting over here. I'm gonna give him the credit that I feel like I can, so far.
40:14 Speaker 00 So far.
40:15 Speaker 01 Uh, see? See?
40:19 Speaker 00 So far. But you're right, up until this point, he's doing pretty well. Um, so one night in mid-July, Lynn and Cameron both have dates with Chase and Vanessa, which isn't uncommon. What is uncommon is how squarely Cameron is being when he gets back from his date with Vanessa. Lynn's like, how was your date? Like, checking in. And Cameron's like, it was good. And then he's like, we were actually supposed to hang out with Raven, but then Vanessa didn't feel great. So Vanessa went to bed early. And Lynn's like, how early? And Cameron's like, I guess a few hours ago. So Lynn's like, what have you been doing since then?
40:59 Speaker 00 And Cameron's like, just hanging out with Raven, but he's like, refusing to meet Lynn's eyes. And Lynn's like, y'all were just hanging out. And that's when Cameron's finally like, I'm sorry. He's like, we were at the bar and one thing led to another. And yeah, I'm really sorry, Raven and I hooked up.
41:18 Speaker 01 Boo. Boo. See, that's what I was saying so far.
41:26 Speaker 01 Knew it.
41:28 Speaker 00 Yeah, he lasted like two weeks.
41:31 Speaker 01 Two weeks.
41:31 Speaker 00 He didn't go for two weeks. Lynn like feels her heart drop. She's not like jealous necessarily. Like she's a little jealous, like her and Cameron have been together for two years at this point, but mostly Lynn is like, I just feel really betrayed. Like this was my one big clear boundary that I gave you. So your partner's just broken the clearest boundary you set down. What do you do?
41:52 Speaker 01 All right. You know, it's just like, we'll have to have like a conversation and like, we're all human.
41:57 Speaker 00 Yeah.
41:58 Speaker 01 We don't make mistakes. I don't feel like man bun is gonna prove to be worthy, but I'm sure there's more. I'm sure there's more we'll get from Cameron.
42:12 Speaker 00 And you're right, there is more.
42:13 Speaker 01 Oh, my God.
42:17 Speaker 01 I was just like, dude.
42:20 Speaker 00 After this, Lynn's like, I need some space and Cameron's like, yeah, of course. The next morning Lynn has a hike planned with Chase. She texts him like, I'm probably not gonna be in a fun flirty mood. Like I had an argument with Cameron last night and Chase is like, that is totally fine. So they go on their hikers plan and Lynn just kind of like unloads everything on Chase. She's like, is it even okay that I'm mad? Like, I don't want to be controlling. And Chase is like, yeah, of course you're allowed to be mad. He crossed like a major boundary. And she's like, how do I handle this? I don't know if I want to break up. We still live together, you know? And Chase is like, yeah, that's really, really tough. And he doesn't really have any answers, but it feels good to just talk it through together.
43:02 Speaker 00 And Lynn is feeling a little bit better by the time they start heading back to Honeydew Farms. So of course that is when Cameron texts her.
43:09 Speaker 01 Of course.
43:10 Speaker 00 And he's like, Vanessa's coming over for a date tonight.
43:13 Speaker 01 Oh, all of a sudden she's feeling so much better, huh? Huh? Is Raven gonna come with Vanessa?
43:20 Speaker 00 No, Raven does not come, but it's like one of their only rules is no dates in the house.
43:25 Speaker 01 Oh, my God. Okay. Cameron.
43:29 Speaker 00 Yeah. Every single ounce of emotional maturity leaves Lynn's body.
43:35 Speaker 01 What left mine too?
43:38 Speaker 00 She walks into the house. She sees Vanessa on the couch with Cameron and without a second thought Lynn is like, hey Vanessa. And then she's like, you might want to look out for this guy. He's not very considerate or communicative. Did he tell you that he hooked up with your best friend last night? And that our one hard boundary is that he can't date Raven? And then Lynn goes upstairs, locks the bedroom door, washes her face, does a honey mask and goes to bed.
44:06 Speaker 01 That's so funny because she said every ounce of emotional maturity left her body. To me, that was a bucket full of emotional.
44:17 Speaker 00 That's real, yeah.
44:18 Speaker 01 I would have snatched him. So yeah, stand ten toes down, Lynn, and tell Vanessa what was up.
44:27 Speaker 00 By the time Lynn wakes up the next morning, Cameron is already gone. And Lynn suspects that he's at Raven's, but she doesn't have the time or energy to figure it out because she has got a volunteer shift at Honeydew Farms that morning. Could you give me like three tasks that you think a volunteer might have to do at a honey farm? That mostly seems to employ influencers?
44:49 Speaker 01 Um, I would say move the honey. Scrape the honey.
44:55 Speaker 00 Yeah. Harvest the honey.
44:58 Speaker 01 Yeah. Uh, girl, take pictures of people working with the honey.
45:04 Speaker 00 Set up the ring light?
45:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
45:06 Speaker 00 Yeah, those are great choices. So Lynn arrives at Honeydew Farms, ready to just like spend some time in her body and not in her mind. She's like, let me do some physical tasks. Except who else is on duty with her that day? But Raven and Vanessa.
45:23 Speaker 01 Okay, mm, oh, oh, oh, oh, y'all think that you're gonna show up with your like little best friends and try and jump me on my shift? Oh, no. No, it's okay. You got this, Lynn. You got this, Lynn. Don't, don't think just because she got her little friend with her that you're outnumbered, Lynn, that you can't take these house, okay?
45:46 Speaker 00 Yeah, Lynn's like, I can't fucking deal with this shit.
45:54 Speaker 01 And you know what, you were well within your right to feel that way, too.
45:58 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah. And the thing is, at first, the vibes are actually horrendous. Like, it's early in the morning, so everyone's barely awake. One of the beehives had swarmed the day before, which is like when an old, clean leaves with like two thirds of the bee colony to find a new location. So everyone's working really quickly to get the new colony set up. So everyone's like sweaty and stressed out, and Lynn is doing her best to avoid being left alone with Raven and Vanessa, which she manages to do until lunch, when Raven and Vanessa corner her.
46:30 Speaker 01 Okay, so what the fuck is y'all gonna say?
46:32 Speaker 00 You're about to be trapped in a conversation with your boyfriend's other two girlfriends. What do you do?
46:38 Speaker 01 I'm his main bitch, so what the fuck are y'all gonna do?
46:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, I knew him when he was in a square state, bitch. What the fuck?
46:50 Speaker 00 I knew him before he got into bees.
46:52 Speaker 01 Right. I knew him before he had hair long enough to snatch up into a bun.
46:58 Speaker 00 I watched him grow that man bun.
46:59 Speaker 01 Yeah. I watched it when it was a boy bun, okay? The fuck? So what the two of you gonna do?
47:09 Speaker 00 Lynn doesn't even really have a chance to do anything because Raven immediately apologizes. And she even does it in like a normal grown up voice. She's like, Vanessa called me last night after she left your place. And then she's like, I had no idea that you'd ask Cameron not to hook up with me. I like would not have made a move if I wasn't under the impression that it was okay. Do you believe her?
47:32 Speaker 01 Okay, you're giving me your real voice. You ain't giving me this little, little baby voice telling me that you didn't know and that you made the move, Raven. I'm gonna take you at your word. I'm gonna take you at your word, but don't let me find out.
47:51 Speaker 00 You were lying.
47:51 Speaker 01 And these, yeah, and these honeycomb streets.
47:56 Speaker 01 That you were lying.
47:58 Speaker 00 Well, Raven seems to be like legitimately upset. And Lynn kind of feels like the wind of righteous anger get taken out of her sails because Vanessa is also corroborating everything Raven is saying. Lynn has also long suspected that Cameron probably didn't tell Raven or Vanessa that he had agreed not to hook up with Raven. So Lynn is like, I'm gonna be honest, I had a feeling Cameron didn't tell you.
48:24 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
48:25 Speaker 00 And then she's like, this is mostly Cameron's fault. If we're being honest here.
48:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:32 Speaker 00 And from here, the floodgates just open. Like shit starts spilling out. Lynn and Raven finally confess like how jealous they've been of each other and how they both tried to deal with it the best they could. Raven's like, yeah, I had a really big crush and I was trying to be diplomatic, but I think I just made it awkward. And Lynn's like, yeah, you fucking did. You talked to me like a wounded baby animal.
48:58 Speaker 01 Yes, thank you for finally calling her out on it. Oh, period. I was hoping you would. Yeah. But it's nice that you guys could do the, in like in this moment where you're coming together to like really realize how corny Cameron is.
49:10 Speaker 00 Yeah. And Raven's like, I'm so sorry. That's a stress response I have. I didn't mean to talk like that. Lynn is like, this is maybe one of the realest conversations I've ever had with someone.
49:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
49:22 Speaker 00 Like, I could picture us being friends after this.
49:24 Speaker 01 Oh.
49:25 Speaker 00 And at this point, Lynn and Raven and Vanessa just start trauma bonding over how dumb Cameron is.
49:31 Speaker 01 I love it. Yes, how dumb, how dumb is he?
49:37 Speaker 00 Well, they're like, God, he's so good in bed, right? But he always poops with the door open and he clips his nails in bed?
49:46 Speaker 01 Oh, my, no.
49:50 Speaker 00 Yeah.
49:51 Speaker 01 Oh, so he does that in multiple beds. He did that.
49:53 Speaker 00 Yes.
49:56 Speaker 00 Raven and Vanessa are like Cameron is always trying to get on camera and he won't shut up about growing our platform. He even suggested that we make inroads with the raw milk community and we hate those guys.
50:09 Speaker 01 Oh my God.
50:12 Speaker 00 Lynn's like, okay, well, since we're doing like truth and reconciliation, I've been dying to know, is Cameron actually any good at beekeeping? Like, I could never ask him, obviously. And Raven and Vanessa both sort of giggle and then they're like, yeah, not really. They're like, honestly, we've both low key been covering for him. And at this point, Lynn is feeling a bit chaotic. So she's like, what if you just stopped covering for him?
50:41 Speaker 01 Oh.
50:42 Speaker 00 All three of them agreed to take some time away from Cameron. Lynn just tells him she needs space to process her emotions and she's going to stay with Chase and his wife for a few days. Is Raven redeemed in your mind at this point?
50:54 Speaker 01 I love it when bad bitches link up to maximize their joint slay.
50:59 Speaker 00 Yes.
51:00 Speaker 01 Cause I feel like that's what's on the horizon.
51:06 Speaker 00 No, I, I love this, this little triad.
51:08 Speaker 01 Ah, yeah. Oh my God.
51:12 Speaker 00 Cameron very quickly finds out about this John Tucker must die situation. He doesn't know what they said, he just knows that it happened.
51:19 Speaker 01 He is like, um, hmm, hmm, something's up. He's like, they all switched it up on me all at once.
51:27 Speaker 00 He's like, I feel like the village idiot. Can you guys just give me some grace? And Lynn's like, you are the village idiot and right now is not the time to be asking for grace.
51:37 Speaker 01 Tell him Lynn, let him know, let him know.
51:41 Speaker 00 Lynn also can't help noticing that over the next few days, Cameron stops talking about Raven and sponsorships and he starts complaining about the bees and how much work they are. And at one point, he's like, I don't even know if I want to be on this stupid farm anymore. I keep getting stung by bees. Lynn, at this point, is like, I could not possibly care less than I do because she's still living with our hot Marxist and his wife. And she and Vanessa and Raven have a group chat now where they just bitch about Cameron. So everything's low key coming up Lynn.
52:16 Speaker 01 Yes, yes, I love it. Good for you, Lynn. What do you even need him for anymore now?
52:23 Speaker 00 No, exactly. You're good. You're free.
52:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, you're living over here with hot Marxist and his wife. Should they make some like, pretty okay food?
52:32 Speaker 00 I'm sure their pancakes are good.
52:33 Speaker 01 I'm sure they make a mean pancake.
52:35 Speaker 00 Right?
52:38 Speaker 01 On a fierce griddle at a farmhouse with a double wide outdoor shower.
52:43 Speaker 00 Yeah, so the next time Lynn sees Vanessa and Raven is at the monthly Honeydew Farms staff meeting. And usually this meeting is just like, should we plant lavender instead of clover so that our honey tastes different? But this meeting is different because at the beginning of this meeting, Raven stands up. And she's like, I've been talking with some of the senior beekeepers. We've noticed that the people who do the most work are too busy to film content. And then Raven's like, in the interest of fairness, we think time on camera should be directly proportional to time spent doing actual manual labor. That way, no one's doing too much of any one thing.
53:26 Speaker 00 And she is very poignantly not looking at Cameron when she says this. And Lynn's like, wait, do I have a crush on Raven now?
53:35 Speaker 01 I do.
53:38 Speaker 01 Yes, Julia Roberts.
53:41 Speaker 00 Exactly. She redeemed herself.
53:43 Speaker 01 Yes, early twenties Julia Roberts, like, yeah.
53:48 Speaker 00 How do you think Cameron will react to this?
53:50 Speaker 01 He is sweating out the edges on that man bun. I know that shit is lifted.
53:55 Speaker 00 Frizzy.
53:56 Speaker 01 Lifted.
53:59 Speaker 01 Sweating. He's like, oh my God, not on camera anymore.
54:04 Speaker 01 Oh, gotta work with the bees. Yeah.
54:08 Speaker 00 Yeah, he throws a bitch fit, not at the meeting because he's a bitch. But over text later with Lynn, he's like Raven did that because she's jealous of how much the subscribers like me. And then he's like, I do carry my weight. I do so many things. He's like, I made us a media press kit on Canva.
54:35 Speaker 01 Crazy flex, bro, but go off.
54:40 Speaker 00 He's like, what about that PowerPoint I made on a potential partnership with the raw meat diet subscription box?
54:47 Speaker 01 Oh, my God.
54:49 Speaker 00 He's like, I bought our new ring light. I contributed so much to the branding.
54:54 Speaker 01 Oh, baby. And you're saying this after being told that you were the village idiot, that you didn't think this would sound very village idiot-esque right now, my sweet baby.
55:08 Speaker 00 Yeah, at this point, Lynn is like, you know what? Maybe it is actually time for me to go to grad school just to get away from Cameron. Do you think Lynn should start studying for the GRE at this point?
55:19 Speaker 01 At this point, okay, it's like we're so pandemic, still feeling a little aimless. Like, do you feel passionate about being a part of this beekeeping community? Or have you had your little moment where you're like, okay, it was fun. I did it for like a little month. Kind of felt like a little sexy summer camp. And now I'm ready to like move on with my life. I would say if you don't see like a future here at Honeydew Farms, uh, then maybe, yeah, girl, start looking into to grad school, just to have it as a safety net.
55:50 Speaker 00 Yeah, well, luckily Lynn never has to pick up a practice test for the GRE because without Raven and Vanessa covering for him, everyone on the farm starts slowly figuring out that Cameron is useless.
56:05 Speaker 00 His six month long apprenticeship isn't extended when his contract runs out. And it's at this point that Lynn decides to officially break up with him. So Cameron leaves town with no job and no bitches.
56:17 Speaker 01 None, none, none one. After a while, they're like, oh, mom, yeah, it's gotta go.
56:23 Speaker 00 Yeah, you actually have to do work here. That's the point. It's a worker's co-op.
56:29 Speaker 01 Yeah. You gotta work, bitch. Just like Britney Spears said.
56:34 Speaker 00 Yes, yes. Lynn does know how to work. So she gets accepted for her own six month long apprenticeship at Honeydew Farms because turns out she's a natural at beekeeping.
56:46 Speaker 01 See, see, look at you learning this new skill.
56:51 Speaker 00 Yes. Raven even teaches her how to stick her hand in a hive without getting stung. While she continues to date our hot Marxist Chase, who is a model of being poly.
57:02 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:03 Speaker 00 A few weeks into her apprenticeship, Lynn and Raven are like scrolling on TikTok together. And you know, when you get a video on your FYP from someone in your contacts?
57:12 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.
57:17 Speaker 00 So on Lynn's FYP is a video from a phone contact and it's none other than Cameron. And he's like, hey, guys, it's me, Cam. And here's how I eliminated seed oils from my diet.
57:31 Speaker 00 And that's the end of our story.
57:36 Speaker 01 Oh, my God. Oh, that was some good, good, good, good gossip. Good for you, Lynn. That's a great one. That one was so good, so juicy. I mean, did you and Raven ever hook up? Because that's where it was doing it for me. That's where in the romance novel, it was going off for me. I was like, oh, I know where it goes after that.
58:03 Speaker 00 No, exactly. You're holding hands with piles of bees.
58:06 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
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