Pod Insights Norah Jones Is Playing Along Joshua Homme About this episode GRAMMY-winning musician Joshua Homme joins Norah for a candid, offbeat conversation that covers everything from the creepiness of nursery rhymes to embracing the human nature of music.
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1:05 Speaker 00 This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You can visit Norah Jones' channel and be sure to subscribe while you're there. Hey, I'm Norah Jones, and today I'm playing along with Joshua Homme.
1:30 Speaker 00 Hey there, I'm Norah Jones, and with me, always, every day, in my heart, is Sarah Oda.
1:39 Speaker 03 Oui, what an intro. I'll take it.
1:43 Speaker 00 Okay.
1:45 Speaker 03 Today's episode is amazing. We had the founder and frontman of arguably one of the greatest rock bands of the past nearly three decades, Queens of the Stone Age. We have singer-songwriter, guitarist, producer Joshua Homme.
2:01 Speaker 00 Yay!
2:04 Speaker 00 Oh, this episode was so much fun.
2:07 Speaker 03 Of course, he's also known for Kias, Eagles of Death Metal, and Them Crooked Vultures. His latest project, Alive in the Catacombs, was recorded and filmed in the Paris Catacombs in 2024, released in 2005, reimagining Queens of the Stone Age songs in a very stripped-down way, which is such an insanely cool idea.
2:28 Speaker 00 Oh, with skeletons all around.
2:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, you're gonna hear more about that. You're gonna hear about his touring. You're gonna hear about songwriting. And as always, pared-back performances from across Joshua's catalog, including one truly classic cover.
2:42 Speaker 00 The funnest part is that he was up for this in a way that I found really fun. He's like, I don't even care if we do any of my songs. Let's just do... And he started throwing out... The first song he threw out to do was a cover song. And I love that, that spirit. But of course, we do do some of my favorite songs of his.
2:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:00 Speaker 00 It was a fun... He was like, up for anything.
3:02 Speaker 03 He's a perfect, yeah, perfect guest because he... It was like a playdate, like an actual playdate.
3:08 Speaker 00 We just had a... We had a great time. I hope you enjoy.
3:11 Speaker 03 Stay tuned. There is some spicy language in this episode, so listener discretion is advised. It's not that bad, but just so you know, it's there.
3:24 Speaker 04 You wanna try this thing?
3:25 Speaker 00 Yeah, let's try it.
3:26 Speaker 04 Okay. Ready?
3:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
3:28 Speaker 04 One, two, three, four.
4:25 Speaker 05 Don't understand the evil life Or how one becomes two
4:36 Speaker 05 And I just can't recall what started all Or how to begin the end
4:47 Speaker 05 I ain't here to break it Just see how far it will bend Again and again, again and again I wanna make it I wanna make it with you
5:06 Speaker 05 Anytime, anywhere, I'll say babe I wanna make it I wanna make it with you
5:17 Speaker 05 Again and again Sometimes the same is different But mostly, it's the same
5:31 Speaker 05 These mysteries of life That just ain't my thing
5:42 Speaker 05 If I told you then I knew about the sun and the moon I'd be untrue Yeah The only thing I know for sure What I won't do Anytime, anywhere, I'll say babe I wanna make it I wanna make it with you
6:12 Speaker 05 Anytime, anywhere, I'll say babe I wanna make it I wanna make it with you
6:23 Speaker 05 Girl, girl, girl, girl, girl I wanna make it Anytime, anywhere
6:37 Speaker 05 I wanna make it, I wanna make it with you
7:33 Speaker 05 I wanna make it, I wanna make it with you Anytime, anywhere, I say babe I wanna make it Girl I wanna make it with you
7:55 Speaker 05 I wanna make it Anytime, anywhere I wanna make it with you
8:06 Speaker 05 I wanna make it, I wanna make it with you
8:21 Speaker 04 We got it on the A.
8:26 Speaker 00 Oh my God, that's fun.
8:27 Speaker 04 It is fun, actually. All my nerves are gone now.
8:29 Speaker 00 Oh, good. That's just a fun jam. It's just, that's a good one.
8:33 Speaker 04 You know, it's funny, that's one of the first times that I was ever able to just outright say that I love someone, even though it doesn't say that in there.
8:41 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:42 Speaker 04 It seems so hard to say, "I love somebody," but it's so easy to say I was upset, or sad, or something else, you know?
8:48 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:49 Speaker 04 I don't know why. I think it's some punk rock boy beginning.
8:53 Speaker 00 Probably.
8:53 Speaker 04 You know?
8:54 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:55 Speaker 04 But it feels good to be able to say that now.
8:57 Speaker 00 It's good that you got there.
8:59 Speaker 04 It took a while.
9:00 Speaker 00 I get it, though. I mean, the sentiment of the song is definitely received, you know?
9:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's good.
9:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:09 Speaker 00 It's a great one. Super fun.
10:11 Speaker 00 Are we wearing sunglasses or are those reading glasses?
10:13 Speaker 04 Oh, these are reading.
10:14 Speaker 00 Okay, cool. Should I get my shades out? Those are cool. I just started wearing readers. I need like cool sunglasses, readers.
10:22 Speaker 04 I realized that for years I was like, oh, I'm just tired.
10:27 Speaker 00 Yeah, I know.
10:27 Speaker 04 For years.
10:28 Speaker 00 Really?
10:29 Speaker 04 Years, you know, and then I, someone, I said, wow, I really can't see. And I borrowed someone's readers and said, you know, it was such a revelation.
10:36 Speaker 00 You woke up.
10:37 Speaker 04 I saw this little baby online. They put these like little headband glasses on and the look on this baby's face was so cute.
10:44 Speaker 00 I've seen those videos.
10:44 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh, my God, so good. Like seeing the world for the first time.
10:48 Speaker 00 I know. Is that how you felt?
10:51 Speaker 04 Uh, well, certainly with a menu.
10:55 Speaker 00 Seeing a menu for the first time.
10:57 Speaker 04 I realized I'd never seen a menu.
10:58 Speaker 00 I know, it's usually too dark. They keep it too dark. Oh, I'm supposed to play piano for them, I forgot.
11:16 Speaker 04 It must be nice to play, to play like, be able to play like that.
11:21 Speaker 00 Like that?
11:21 Speaker 04 Yeah. Like, do you, every time I watch piano, I'm always like, oh, that must be so nice.
11:26 Speaker 00 Yeah.
11:27 Speaker 04 Is it, is it fun to just, like, how do you feel about your playing?
11:32 Speaker 00 I feel like sometimes I really am happy with it and sometimes I forget how to play.
11:38 Speaker 04 Right.
11:39 Speaker 00 You know?
11:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:40 Speaker 00 But I feel good. I feel like I've gotten so much better in the last 10 years.
11:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:45 Speaker 00 And I'm excited by that.
11:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:47 Speaker 00 And I, it's like I forgot that I have all this to play with.
11:50 Speaker 04 Room, yeah.
11:51 Speaker 00 Yeah, because I used to be a little more contained.
11:55 Speaker 04 What time, what time, what time is it when you started? 10 o'clock?
12:00 Speaker 04 What time are you when you started?
12:02 Speaker 00 I was seven, I was seven o'clock.
12:04 Speaker 04 Seven time?
12:05 Speaker 00 Yeah.
12:06 Speaker 04 I was seven o'clock when I started my lesson. Then did you, did you want to do it or did it feel, yeah?
12:13 Speaker 00 I wanted to do it and I begged for lessons and my mom got an upright piano and gave me lessons and I promptly wanted to quit because I didn't want to practice.
12:20 Speaker 04 Right.
12:21 Speaker 00 And she said, just take for five years and then you can quit. And on the dot, five years later, I quit for about a year.
12:27 Speaker 04 When you're seven, five years, you have no concept of that. You're like, what is that, like, tonight at 11?
12:33 Speaker 00 Exactly.
12:33 Speaker 04 You started at seven?
12:36 Speaker 00 So you grew up playing guitar just casually, polka style? What?
12:40 Speaker 04 No, I just, I think, and maybe I'm being mean to my teacher, but Tom Polanski, I love you, wherever you are.
12:51 Speaker 04 But I felt like he wanted to keep a student, maybe, or something. And polka just didn't seem like my thing. I didn't-
12:58 Speaker 00 He was really a polka teacher?
12:59 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
13:00 Speaker 00 Polka guitar?
13:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
13:02 Speaker 00 Are you serious?
13:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, I didn't know they had that, but they're doing it out there somewhere. There's a sub scene.
13:06 Speaker 00 Apparently.
13:07 Speaker 04 Oh, there's a scene, you know, that, you know.
13:15 Speaker 00 It's kind of like country and western picking.
13:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, it really is the same thing. It's all offshoots of coming out of Germany and Ireland. And, you know, it's folk music done with Oompa, you know, on the Andau.
13:29 Speaker 04 But I just didn't, it didn't resonate too much with me. So I just started playing on my own and I stopped the lessons. And that was the last lesson I took.
13:36 Speaker 00 Wow.
13:37 Speaker 04 You know?
13:37 Speaker 00 How long did you take?
13:40 Speaker 04 It was about 18 months.
13:41 Speaker 00 Oh, okay.
13:42 Speaker 04 Of, you know, from the age of nine to almost 11.
13:45 Speaker 00 The year you saw George Carlin, you started playing polka guitar?
13:49 Speaker 04 And listening to punk rock music.
13:50 Speaker 00 That's pretty cool.
13:51 Speaker 04 And I was like, but that realization that it was only three chords away. I didn't know bar chords for the first year.
13:57 Speaker 00 Yeah.
13:58 Speaker 04 It was just Oompa, Oompa, you know?
14:00 Speaker 00 That's all you need.
14:01 Speaker 04 It was the Three Blind Mice.
14:02 Speaker 00 Yeah. The punk rock, anyway.
14:05 Speaker 04 Yeah. Three Blind Mice, Three Blind Mice.
14:08 Speaker 00 It's funny when they translate the beginner songs for little kids to older kids who are starting.
14:15 Speaker 04 Right.
14:15 Speaker 00 Do you know what I mean? Like, my kids started taking lessons and they were learning from this book and learning these old-timey 1800s nursery rhymes.
14:23 Speaker 04 Oh, I love that stuff, though.
14:25 Speaker 00 I do, too, but they were not interested in it.
14:28 Speaker 04 Yeah. They're all terrifying, like, you know, Row, Row Your Boat.
14:33 Speaker 00 Yeah.
14:34 Speaker 04 I find it to be really eerie. Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream. And I'm always like-
14:44 Speaker 00 Is there a second verse?
14:46 Speaker 04 I'm sure there is.
14:46 Speaker 00 Where you go over the waterfall?
14:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm sure it is. And it's like, life is but a dream.
14:51 Speaker 00 Life is but a dream.
14:52 Speaker 04 Sung in the right way, it's terrifying.
14:54 Speaker 00 It is terrifying.
14:55 Speaker 04 But I love that sort of-
14:58 Speaker 04 I love that gently scary vibe of things.
15:01 Speaker 00 Yeah.
15:01 Speaker 04 You know?
15:02 Speaker 00 I can tell.
15:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:04 Speaker 00 Yeah. I was drawn to that song of yours, this lullaby, because I just wanted to sing harmonies all over it.
15:09 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, we can do that.
15:11 Speaker 00 Well, we've let into it. You want to do a lullaby?
15:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:14 Speaker 00 A quick lullaby? It's easy. Wait a second. Is the piano good? Or should we? Yeah?
15:21 Speaker 00 Was it Depends? No.
15:23 Speaker 04 Depends.
15:24 Speaker 00 Depends. It was Depends.
15:26 Speaker 04 It's your Depends.
15:27 Speaker 00 I have a funny Depends story. I'll tell you later.
15:31 Speaker 04 No, now I gotta hear it.
15:32 Speaker 00 No.
15:33 Speaker 04 It doesn't have to make the final cut, but now I need to hear it.
15:35 Speaker 00 It's kind of gross.
15:36 Speaker 04 That's OK. I'm here for it.
15:38 Speaker 00 We're cutting this. When I, when I was pregnant...
15:39 Speaker 04 We're cutting this.
15:40 Speaker 00 We're cutting this. When I was pregnant for the first time, I thought maybe for some reason I would need like extra pads after the baby.
15:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:49 Speaker 00 And so I bought some Depends.
15:50 Speaker 04 Right.
15:51 Speaker 00 But I accidentally ordered like five cases.
15:54 Speaker 04 Wow.
15:54 Speaker 00 Of Depends.
15:56 Speaker 04 That's a lot.
15:57 Speaker 00 Yeah.
15:58 Speaker 04 Well, I guess you're stocked up.
16:00 Speaker 00 Well, I don't still have them. I donated them finally because I was like, I don't use these.
16:05 Speaker 04 You could be like a doomsday prepper.
16:06 Speaker 00 I didn't use them at all. I'm like, I'm like a pee in your pants prepper.
16:13 Speaker 04 We've got food for six months, water, and Depends.
16:17 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:18 Speaker 04 Because when the end comes, you might shit yourself.
16:20 Speaker 00 Yeah. I mean, I had already donated them by the time the pandemic came along, so.
16:24 Speaker 04 Depandemic. Dependent.
16:27 Speaker 00 Oh, God. This is fun.
16:30 Speaker 04 I love that in the pandemic, you're like, somebody else is gonna need these right now. It's a very uncomfortable time.
16:37 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:40 Speaker 04 OK, shall I? Shall we? Shall us?
16:44 Speaker 04 Mmm. No pressure. We're all counting on you. No.
16:59 Speaker 05 Where, where have you been, my love? Where, where can you be? Oh yeah. It's been so long since the moon has gone. Oh, what a wreck you've made me. Are you there, over the oceans? Are you there, up in the sky? Tell the return of my love this lullaby.
17:37 Speaker 05 My hope is on the horizon. Every face is your eyes I can see. I plead and pray each night and day. Our embrace is only a dream. And the shortest days come for moments. Each hour becomes the last time. When she left, I'd only begun this lullaby.
18:16 Speaker 05 Oh. Oh.
18:26 Speaker 05 Oh. Yeah.
18:35 Speaker 05 Oh. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Ooh.
19:00 Speaker 00 That's so fun.
19:02 Speaker 04 It's very sweet. I love that harmony.
19:03 Speaker 00 It's so sweet. I forgot to come in on it. I was having so much fun.
19:07 Speaker 04 Oh, that's good.
19:08 Speaker 00 Oh, good.
19:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:09 Speaker 00 Yeah.
19:10 Speaker 04 Actually, I don't even mind little mistakes. I love them.
19:13 Speaker 00 Yeah, this is a casual mistake friendly zone.
19:15 Speaker 04 Then I'm totally good. Because I think.
19:18 Speaker 00 Sweet. Well, halfway done.
19:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, but. Well, I don't want to go.
19:22 Speaker 00 I know, just kidding.
19:24 Speaker 04 But I think. I don't know. I also grew up watching like Carol Burnett Show and Dean Martin Show. And those variety shows like that. And my favorite part is when somebody broke.
19:37 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah.
19:38 Speaker 04 You know, in fact, I read when I was reading Dean Martin's book, I read that he, in his contract, he said that. He would not come to rehearsals. He would just come to the taping. So everyone else all week was rehearsing. And then he would show up and just sort of be like.
19:57 Speaker 00 Yeah.
19:57 Speaker 04 Babe, it's gonna be alright.
19:59 Speaker 00 He would nail it.
20:00 Speaker 04 And he would nail it or not, and then completely call out the mistake. And I just think there's something. I guess it's cute.
20:10 Speaker 00 I think it's human.
20:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:12 Speaker 00 There's not a lot of that anymore in some places.
20:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, I think.
20:19 Speaker 00 Of his life.
20:20 Speaker 04 Well, I definitely think music.
20:21 Speaker 00 Yeah, I was gonna say that, but then I got shy for some reason. I don't know.
20:25 Speaker 04 No, I think it's okay to say that because I think.
20:29 Speaker 04 There's a lot of correcting.
20:31 Speaker 00 Yeah, I mean, now that you can, it's just so easy to make everything perfect and it doesn't sound human anymore.
20:36 Speaker 04 It's, yeah, because perfect is what people aren't. And so it's almost, it's almost setting a bar where no one could ever actually go. And, you know, I always end up trying to play my mistakes again.
20:51 Speaker 00 That's very jazz of you.
20:53 Speaker 04 Definitely.
20:54 Speaker 00 Yeah.
20:55 Speaker 04 It's my jazziest part.
20:58 Speaker 04 In Queens or something, there's a lot of mistakes or tuning issues or things on a record because.
21:05 Speaker 04 It really does end up being the thing that you try to replicate.
21:08 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's more fun.
21:10 Speaker 04 Uh huh, and I think people are quick to go. There was a mistake there and you've got this, you know, because you can without really thinking about it.
21:19 Speaker 00 To correct it.
21:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:20 Speaker 00 Yeah.
21:21 Speaker 04 There's a moment in a song Honky Tonk Woman by The Stones.
21:25 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah.
21:26 Speaker 04 And there's a moment where the guitar goes
21:29 Speaker 04 and it's so out of tune. And I'm always pining, I'm waiting like, oh, okay, back up, here it comes. You know?
21:37 Speaker 00 Yeah, I mean, all those Dylan records had weird, weird.
21:40 Speaker 04 Everyone's out from each other, like, timing wise.
21:43 Speaker 00 Yeah.
21:43 Speaker 04 We're listening to Rolling Stone this morning, like a Rolling Stone. Me and my boy were driving to school and it's so out from each, they're so out from each other.
21:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
21:54 Speaker 04 But it's just cool.
21:55 Speaker 00 It's, it's the best. You can just feel it almost, you know?
22:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:01 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think people just respond to it when it sounds human.
22:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:05 Speaker 00 The emotion is there.
22:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:06 Speaker 00 You can't, you lose that when you perfect things sometimes.
22:09 Speaker 04 I, I think everything gets really linear.
22:12 Speaker 00 Yeah.
22:13 Speaker 04 Everyone goes left at the same time, everyone goes right at the same time. And I just, uh,
22:19 Speaker 04 well, maybe I'm just making excuses because I know I'm gonna blow it at some point.
22:22 Speaker 00 No.
22:22 Speaker 04 No, I don't mean today, I just mean all the time.
22:25 Speaker 00 I think you're, you're, no, I think you're spot on.
22:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:28 Speaker 00 And I think, um, you know, that's the music I love, that's the music you love.
22:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:34 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think most people do.
22:36 Speaker 04 I like it all over the place.
22:37 Speaker 00 Yeah, me too.
22:38 Speaker 04 I like a little slop.
22:39 Speaker 00 That's what she said. Sorry, we were doing jokes earlier.
22:44 Speaker 04 No, let's still do them.
22:45 Speaker 00 Okay, that's what she said.
22:48 Speaker 00 So when you guys go in to record as a band, do you like to do things pretty together and live?
22:53 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
22:54 Speaker 00 Yeah.
22:55 Speaker 04 Yeah. I mean, if something's brand spanking new, you know, I think when you make your early records, you can tell me if you're the same, if you're playing with people, your early records, you have those songs and you're ready to go.
23:08 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah.
23:09 Speaker 04 And then. As the years have gone on, the fun of being in the studio, I'm not trying to rush as much. Before, I would be so proud, I would say, you know. Recorded and mixed in 19 days, you know.
23:21 Speaker 00 Oh, okay.
23:22 Speaker 04 And I'd put it on the records, like, look how fast we can move.
23:25 Speaker 00 Like it was a sign of you're awesome.
23:28 Speaker 04 Well, and also, it was like, we're not second guessing, because when you second guess, you guess for two times.
23:36 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:37 Speaker 04 I'd rather guess once.
23:38 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's more like a badge of authenticity.
23:42 Speaker 04 For sure, you know, because I think you feel the same way. It's that, you know, you want music to be real. And that's some kind of badge.
23:51 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:53 Speaker 04 Like a badge, like, this is real, see, look, we didn't overdo it.
23:56 Speaker 00 That was the demo.
23:57 Speaker 04 Yeah. Well, and I, but I think as the years go on too, it's just fun to be in the studio.
24:04 Speaker 00 It is, it's actually too fun.
24:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, you're making, actualizing the sounds you hear in your head. That's the best part. You know, I like touring, but it's not, nothing close to being in the studio and making stuff like how it should be, how it's meant to be.
24:21 Speaker 00 Yeah. Do you like to record songs when they're brand new? So you capture that first sort of spirit of it? Or impression of it? Or do you like to rehearse and think and like? I mean, I guess every song's different. Some songs are better that way for me.
24:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:37 Speaker 00 And then some, if I have to think about them, they're very hard.
24:41 Speaker 04 Well, I, it feels best when they just come and they have those mistakes and they have that rawness. I just need it to be raw, too. I don't want it to be sonically polished either. And I, and then there's other things that it's like going to Jo-Ann's or Michael's and you're just crafting.
25:03 Speaker 00 I did not think we'd be bringing Joann's into this.
25:05 Speaker 04 Oh, I love Joann's and Michael's.
25:07 Speaker 00 Didn't Joann's close?
25:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't like to talk about that.
25:10 Speaker 00 Okay.
25:13 Speaker 04 I just passed to Michael's.
25:14 Speaker 00 She's gone.
25:15 Speaker 04 She's gone. Bitch, you're done.
25:19 Speaker 04 But, uh, yeah. So there are some stuff, I think when we're doing this stuff now, sometimes we track it as a trio. So the other guys can really let the stones sink to the bottom and hear what's happening. And it's hard, we have, we're five. It's hard to track with five people that don't know what's going on.
25:37 Speaker 00 No, you're right about that.
25:38 Speaker 04 Because you're, you're actually accidentally stepping on each other all the time, which is natural. We have a, a rule in Queens that whoever brings the song, that you, you sort of talk about the personality of it, what's its intent, what does it look like, what does it wear, what is, how does it behave?
25:55 Speaker 00 You explain that?
25:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, and talk through the imagery, sort of.
25:59 Speaker 00 That's cool.
26:00 Speaker 04 Because it's fun to, to not only have this, to humanize this song, but to say where it lives and what it does, you know?
26:09 Speaker 00 What's a drink for breakfast?
26:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. Tequila.
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27:16 Speaker 00 Should we do
27:17 Speaker 04 Colopsia.
27:18 Speaker 00 Okay.
27:19 Speaker 04 This, I wrote this for my daughter.
27:21 Speaker 00 Which one? Yeah, I was gonna ask about that title. I had to Google it because I'm not very smart with Greek.
27:28 Speaker 04 Well, is that what it is?
27:30 Speaker 00 Is that not what it is?
27:32 Speaker 04 Well, okay.
27:32 Speaker 00 You tell me what it is.
27:33 Speaker 04 So Alex Turner from the Arctic Monkeys and I have this long-running habit. We just send, text each other a word.
27:42 Speaker 00 Oh, that's fun.
27:43 Speaker 04 You know, and and because there's so many great chubby juicy colorful words out there.
27:53 Speaker 00 That's true.
27:54 Speaker 04 You know, words that I try never to use the word it if I can.
28:01 Speaker 00 In a song?
28:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:03 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:03 Speaker 04 And anyways, he texted me, I texted him a word which I can't remember because it wasn't as good as the word he texted me, which was colopsia, which is the condition where everything looks, appears more beautiful than it really is.
28:18 Speaker 00 That's what it is.
28:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:19 Speaker 00 It's not Greek?
28:21 Speaker 04 It very well could be. I mean, aren't they all in the end?
28:24 Speaker 00 Yeah, I guess so. That's such a beautiful sentiment.
28:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. And you know, I think when you have little ones, they're, everything is new. And so they're experiencing all the joys and all this sort of social difficulties. You know?
28:40 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:40 Speaker 04 Where they're, you know, when you walk in a room and there's someone really short in your house and they're hanging their head, but you really can't fix their problems. You just can sit with them until they, until they feel better. And so I think you know, once I'd cracked the seal on playing love songs, you know, I was like, wow, you can, you can point this, that this notion of love in every direction you've got it, you know?
29:06 Speaker 00 After I had kids, I had the same realization.
29:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. It's, it opens up a whole new wing of songwriting.
29:13 Speaker 00 It's pretty special because it's, it goes in a different direction.
29:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:18 Speaker 00 And then the listener doesn't have to realize it.
29:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, traditionally, I don't bother saying those things because their purpose is already done. I, I, I know what it is. And I think sometimes you might rob somebody of what it is for them.
29:32 Speaker 00 Yeah.
29:32 Speaker 04 And I think that's a shame to pop bubbles.
29:34 Speaker 00 I agree. I don't like explaining songs.
29:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:37 Speaker 00 Saying what they're about.
29:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:39 Speaker 00 Yeah.
29:39 Speaker 04 So I guess I just blew it. Take two, cut.
29:43 Speaker 00 I don't think you actually explained it. You just, you just kinda said where it came from.
29:47 Speaker 04 Said it's possible.
29:48 Speaker 00 You said enough.
29:49 Speaker 04 It's possible.
29:49 Speaker 00 You said enough.
29:50 Speaker 04 But also, there's something very much of a lullaby about this somehow.
29:53 Speaker 00 For sure. It is a lullaby.
29:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
30:15 Speaker 04 Camille will be very happy.
30:19 Speaker 04 Ready?
30:20 Speaker 05 I never lie to myself tonight.
30:43 Speaker 05 Rose-tinted eyes color my sorrows a shade of white.
31:01 Speaker 04 Sounds beautiful.
31:04 Speaker 05 Bye-bye, black balloon.
31:13 Speaker 05 I'll see you real soon.
31:19 Speaker 05 Wave bye-bye.
31:26 Speaker 05 Oh, why are you so sad? What have they done?
31:36 Speaker 05 Forget those mother's baboons, they're off playing god.
31:47 Speaker 05 Copycats and chasers are playing it safe.
31:57 Speaker 05 While cannonballs and bad news concern their parade. Yeah. Is it wonderful?
32:21 Speaker 05 Collapsia.
32:48 Speaker 05 Collapsia.
32:52 Speaker 05 Yeah, collapsia.
32:58 Speaker 05 Far, far from shore. The land of nightmares.
33:13 Speaker 05 Gone forevermore.
33:19 Speaker 05 And I love you more.
33:30 Speaker 05 That I can't control.
33:40 Speaker 05 I don't even try.
33:49 Speaker 05 Why would I? Oh, why the long face? Got it all wrong.
34:01 Speaker 05 Forget the ride of the race. We'll turntain them all.
34:11 Speaker 05 Fates favors the ones who have their tails.
34:22 Speaker 05 The red spell that stain of the last. If they rode the boat to hell. Here we go.
35:25 Speaker 05 Oh, my daughter was gonna love that, actually.
35:27 Speaker 00 Yeah?
35:28 Speaker 05 Yeah.
35:28 Speaker 00 Oh, good.
35:29 Speaker 05 Yeah.
35:32 Speaker 00 I love the version you did from the Live from the Catacombs.
35:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
35:36 Speaker 00 Can you explain what the catacombs in Paris are to anyone who doesn't know?
35:41 Speaker 04 The catacombs were a mine that is about 220 kilometers worth of mine shafts underneath the city of Paris, as is the case with all these big cities. There's tunnels everywhere.
35:55 Speaker 04 And in the late 1700s, the cemeteries were overflowing in Paris, and it was becoming a real problem. And in the night, they emptied the graves from these mass cemeteries and wheelbarrowed through the streets of Paris.
36:10 Speaker 00 That is insane.
36:11 Speaker 04 To these cisterns were there to, you know, formally take debris, ventilate the mine shafts and, you know, pass water up and down, and dumped the bodies of thousands and thousands until it became millions of people.
36:29 Speaker 00 That's so crazy.
36:30 Speaker 04 And at the bottom of these dump sites, which sounds like a terrible phrase, actually, but...
36:38 Speaker 00 Dump sites make it more romantic.
36:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, at the bottom of these dump sites, these men and women lovingly, respectfully, artistically created a mosaic with millions of bones.
36:53 Speaker 00 They did it with everyone? With all the bodies? Or just some?
36:58 Speaker 04 Well, they ran out of steam at some point. So there are locations in the catacombs that are simply piles of bones. But that has its own sort of... When you experience any part of this, you're immediately faced with thoughts and questions you never had ever, or that maybe you swept under the rug about this life and the length of it and the depth of it, you know. And there's this beautiful mosaic of human beings. And, you know, when you're in a studio, the surfaces are all different surfaces in order to sort
37:42 Speaker 04 of like capture the sound and not let it overly reflect too much. And that organic process is happening in the catacombs.
37:51 Speaker 00 That's wild.
37:52 Speaker 04 The porous nature of bones. But, you know, when you palms someone's skull, and there's... The village idiot and great thinkers in the catacombs.
38:02 Speaker 00 Yeah.
38:03 Speaker 04 Jean-Paul Sartre is in there amongst others, right?
38:06 Speaker 00 Wow.
38:06 Speaker 04 So, no one was spared. Everyone was given the same beautiful treatment, you know?
38:13 Speaker 00 That's so beautiful and crazy.
38:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's crazy. We're the first person to play there legally.
38:20 Speaker 00 Yeah, but somebody else has played there.
38:22 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, they've had, there's been underground raves and...
38:24 Speaker 00 Oh, wow.
38:25 Speaker 04 There was one cool story, actually. This always fascinated me that, you know, there are, you know, sort of like vaulted areas that open up and get larger. That's the case in any mine, like a central meeting point where it gets bigger.
38:40 Speaker 00 Yeah.
38:41 Speaker 04 And there was a movie screen, a projector, and a dinner table for 20 that was completely set with a very small spinet piano in there. And the city worker that discovered it turned around and ran back to get authorities, which seems like a real tattletale thing to me personally, where it's like, oh, thanks a lot, you know, thanks a lot, you know, Travis or whoever it was.
39:08 Speaker 00 I'm sure his name wasn't Travis.
39:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was like Pierre. Pierre Prescher, the great French persuasionist.
39:14 Speaker 00 Pierre Prescher.
39:18 Speaker 04 But he went to get authorities and came back the next morning, and it was all gone. And there was a note on the floor that said, "Do not try to find us." And I just love, that's again back to this sort of romantic, scary, exclusive little club. I mean, elitism sucks when I'm not included. But this, I can imagine wanting to be desperately part of this movie night in the bowels of the catacombs.
39:47 Speaker 00 What movie do you think was shown?
39:51 Speaker 04 Jesus, what do you think it would be?
39:53 Speaker 00 Soylent Green?
39:55 Speaker 04 Psycho?
39:56 Speaker 00 Psycho.
39:57 Speaker 04 Or maybe it's Amelie or something beautiful.
39:59 Speaker 00 Amelie, that would be very whimsical.
40:01 Speaker 04 Maybe it's Breakfast at Tiffany's.
40:03 Speaker 00 Did they project it onto the bones? Or was there a?
40:06 Speaker 04 There was a screen in there.
40:07 Speaker 00 There was a screen.
40:08 Speaker 04 It was all ready to go.
40:09 Speaker 00 It was all ready.
40:10 Speaker 04 Yeah. And there's catafiles who roam and there's people that go in there just to make movies.
40:18 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah.
40:18 Speaker 04 That are like, "I'm lost." But that aren't, it isn't true, it's all a ruse, you know?
40:24 Speaker 00 How deep, I mean, it must be huge. Can you get lost in it?
40:27 Speaker 04 Certainly.
40:28 Speaker 00 Yeah.
40:28 Speaker 04 And a lot of the, from what I'm told, a lot of the entrances you see that are just simply a manhole or just a grate over here with a stairwell, unbeknownst to you, they lead straight into the catacombs, you know?
40:41 Speaker 00 In Paris?
40:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. Because if you think about 220 kilometers of, you know, Paris is a large city.
40:48 Speaker 00 Yeah.
40:49 Speaker 04 But you are talking about the entire old, the old city. Much larger than that span of that city.
40:57 Speaker 00 This is wild.
40:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's really cool, actually.
40:59 Speaker 00 How did you think that you wanted to do that? Have you visited it a lot?
41:04 Speaker 04 I'd never, I, I, I saw pictures of it when I was just a boy and was just, couldn't believe you could do that with death and art could mix. And, you know, when you're little, you don't understand that you won't live forever, you know? So I was, I thought, "Oh, my goodness, what does that mean?" And no one talks to you about that stuff, or certainly not to me.
41:29 Speaker 00 No.
41:30 Speaker 04 And so on tour about 18, 19 years ago, I tried to go and just see it. The line was about three hours long.
41:38 Speaker 00 Oh, so you couldn't get in?
41:39 Speaker 04 And I did this really musician spoiled thing. I was like, "If we play there, can I cut the line?" And, but that.
41:49 Speaker 00 Back then?
41:50 Speaker 04 Yeah. And it was, you know, and the first answer we got was no, of course. And I just made a habit of asking whenever we were gonna do a European tour, "Let's ask again."
42:00 Speaker 00 So you've been asking for 18 years?
42:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, I have.
42:04 Speaker 00 That's incredible.
42:04 Speaker 04 Well, I, it doesn't. It didn't take much to ask. I'd talk to people at times and not talk to people at times. And heard absolutely not, you know, many times.
42:16 Speaker 00 That was Irish.
42:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, absolutely not.
42:18 Speaker 00 Somehow.
42:19 Speaker 04 I was asking the wrong person.
42:21 Speaker 00 You're in the wrong country.
42:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I just, I think at times as a joke almost, I said, "We're coming back, go again." And I've had many wild and fantastical events occur for me and my bandmates in Paris.
42:40 Speaker 00 Yeah.
42:41 Speaker 04 And so the time was right and we got our chance, you know. And so I think the reason for the version of that song done that way is the simplest, you know, I'm always looking for a green light, you know, to know to progress forward. And obviously, a red light means turn your direction. But the first green light was, "Everything is stripped to bare bones and that's what we should do too."
43:11 Speaker 00 Yeah.
43:11 Speaker 04 You know.
43:12 Speaker 00 It's beautiful and everybody sounds so great.
43:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, everyone did a really, really good job, you know.
43:20 Speaker 00 It's beautiful. I love listening to the whole thing.
43:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, thank you. It turned, I'm really happy how it turned out, you know.
43:27 Speaker 00 Yeah, and I heard that you were not well during it as well.
43:32 Speaker 04 Yeah, but that made it better because, I mean, what are the chances that after 18 years, when the yes finally came, that I would be, when I walked down in there and facing all these other lives, that mine would be, that would be hard to be in mine, you know. And I just think it made it better because, well, you don't get a chance to show who you really are all the time.
44:04 Speaker 00 That's true.
44:04 Speaker 04 You know, and when those moments come up, you know. It feels nice because someone told me anxiety is worrying about the future and depression is worrying about the past.
44:16 Speaker 04 And you're just looking, you only live one moment in infinitum. You know, you're only in one, we're only here. The rest of this is all dress rehearsal for now.
44:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
44:27 Speaker 04 And I really felt the most present that I'd ever felt playing, ever. So I think of it as like a complete blessing, you know?
44:41 Speaker 00 This deep.
44:42 Speaker 04 I gotta go.
44:42 Speaker 00 Okay.
44:43 Speaker 04 No, I'm just kidding.
44:44 Speaker 00 I gotta go.
44:45 Speaker 04 And I'm leaving.
44:46 Speaker 00 And I'm leaving.
44:47 Speaker 04 I'm enjoying myself.
44:48 Speaker 00 Good. I am too.
44:50 Speaker 04 Yeah. It's fun, it's fun to do this, right?
44:53 Speaker 00 It's so much fun.
44:54 Speaker 04 I watched like 10 of these today.
44:56 Speaker 00 Oh dear.
44:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
44:58 Speaker 00 So you know I'm a goober.
45:01 Speaker 04 I just think it looks like you're really enjoying yourself. I see why you do this. It's really, it's actually what we're supposed to be doing.
45:09 Speaker 00 Kind of is. You should guest host sometime.
45:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:12 Speaker 00 You get to pick whoever you want.
45:13 Speaker 04 Hello.
45:15 Speaker 00 Exactly.
45:16 Speaker 04 Well, I also love strange chemistry. I think it's very easy for people to say like, oh, that caught me off guard. It doesn't make sense, but really it completely makes sense.
45:25 Speaker 00 Or like a pairing of two people that you wouldn't put together.
45:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:28 Speaker 00 Yeah.
45:28 Speaker 04 But, but, but like us, but really it makes total sense.
45:32 Speaker 00 This always makes sense to me.
45:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
45:35 Speaker 04 I think the stranger it gets, the more beautiful it gets.
45:38 Speaker 00 I agree.
45:39 Speaker 04 You know, I mean, it's almost like if you can get someone out of their element.
45:43 Speaker 00 Yeah.
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46:42 Speaker 04 On this tour we're doing, it's, I'm terrified. Like I haven't been for 25 years and-
46:49 Speaker 00 Because it's stripped back?
46:51 Speaker 04 Um, it's so, if you're gonna do something uncomfortable and empty to a crowd, you have to be empty and uncomfortable yourself.
47:00 Speaker 00 Okay.
47:01 Speaker 04 And you have to let the silence hang. I'm just realizing that silence is the loudest quiet we'll ever get.
47:06 Speaker 00 Is that the song idea? That's great.
47:09 Speaker 04 No, it's just the understanding of like, you know, um, and, um, and, but we're also playing really deep cuts that we don't play only because they're fucking hard. They're actually hard.
47:23 Speaker 00 So it's hard, it's a hard show.
47:24 Speaker 04 And that's like, the end of the show is, the end of the show is deep cuts. And so I have no guitar on and I'm, and then I put my guitar on, I'm like, oh my God. It's hard. Like, do you have, you certainly have songs that are just hard.
47:38 Speaker 00 Yeah, I usually don't play them for that reason.
47:42 Speaker 04 Cause you're like, oh my God, damn.
47:43 Speaker 00 Oh my God, I have to practice?
47:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, and I have to practice, practice, practice.
47:47 Speaker 00 Yeah. I don't have, I mean, my songs are mostly pretty simple. There's a few tricky ones.
47:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, I have things where you're playing guitar lead that's, that's syncopated to what you're singing.
48:00 Speaker 00 Oh, that, that's hard. That's, that's a coordination issue.
48:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:04 Speaker 00 Yeah.
48:04 Speaker 04 It is, it is, it's like-
48:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, stab yourself in the eye?
48:09 Speaker 04 And, um, but I always think it would look so cool if you were in the front row and you saw somebody and they were playing this guitar lead that had nothing to do with the vocal and singing at the same time. And they were just doing it. And there's a lot of like- Like at home, just tapping my foot really slowly.
48:28 Speaker 00 So that you can do it, yeah.
48:31 Speaker 04 You know, where you're just, and going, ah, the singing, the next word's on the and, you know.
48:37 Speaker 00 Let's hear it.
48:38 Speaker 04 Oh, no. And it's just, uh, yeah, um, I wanna do a good job.
48:47 Speaker 00 I think that's great. That means you're in it, you know? You're still in it.
48:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, there's no reason to ever stop pushing hard. I just don't understand why do this.
48:58 Speaker 00 I mean, I understand that and you understand that, but I don't feel like everybody does that.
49:02 Speaker 04 I know, I know, but there's room for everybody. There's, there's, you know, on the one hand, I used to sort of thumb my nose to people that didn't write their own music. And then I was like, wait a minute, some of my favorite people didn't write their music. Elvis didn't write his music, you know, it's like Connie Francis, you know?
49:19 Speaker 00 Yeah.
49:20 Speaker 04 You know, they're singing other people's songs, but they, but, and so I let that go 'cause that's just a ridiculous notion. And there's some people that play 'cause they wanna be famous. And I understand that. That's not, that's not what I'm trying to do, but there's room for everybody. I don't care.
49:36 Speaker 00 You just wanna be famous enough to get into the catacombs to do a gig.
49:40 Speaker 04 I just wanna, I wanna, I want everyone that could like our music to have a chance to hear it.
49:45 Speaker 00 Isn't that the best?
49:46 Speaker 04 You know, and I, and I think something like the catacombs is just a way to recharge your battery. I wanna be, I wanna reserve the right to be surprised by life. And I, and those things, you know, it's fun to play festivals, but if you just did that, it wouldn't be enough. It's not enough.
50:05 Speaker 00 It's funny, I love playing festivals 'cause that energy is something my normal shows doesn't, does, it's more reserved, you know?
50:12 Speaker 04 Well, and I like the idea of being thrown up there like everyone else and can you do it or not?
50:17 Speaker 00 Yeah.
50:17 Speaker 04 You know, so I like that too, but any one thing is not enough, you know?
50:21 Speaker 00 I agree with that.
50:22 Speaker 04 I need, I need, I have musical schizophrenia. You're, you're doing this 'cause you have it too. You wouldn't be doing this.
50:28 Speaker 00 Variety, yeah.
50:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, I, I need to be where I'm not allowed to go. Tell me I'm not supposed to be there. So I can go there, you know? You know, so, yeah, but some stuff is hard.
50:41 Speaker 00 Yeah.
50:41 Speaker 04 It's fun, you know?
50:43 Speaker 00 But it's more fun that way.
50:45 Speaker 04 For sure.
50:46 Speaker 00 It's like.
50:47 Speaker 04 You know, yeah, you could lose.
50:49 Speaker 00 What are you teaching your kids, right?
50:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:51 Speaker 00 If it's hard, don't do it. No, that's not what you're teaching them.
50:53 Speaker 04 No, not at all.
50:54 Speaker 00 Yeah.
50:54 Speaker 04 You know, my grandpa was always like, life is hard because it's worth it.
50:58 Speaker 00 That's sweet.
50:59 Speaker 04 And I think that that's probably good enough to go.
51:02 Speaker 00 Yeah, I love that.
51:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:05 Speaker 00 Well, have you ever sang Frank Sinatra before?
51:08 Speaker 04 I've sung a lot of Dean Martin. I haven't sung this.
51:11 Speaker 00 Yeah.
51:11 Speaker 04 Oh, no, I did this once.
51:13 Speaker 00 You did?
51:14 Speaker 04 I did this once before.
51:15 Speaker 00 With who?
51:16 Speaker 04 I don't want to say.
51:17 Speaker 00 Who is she?
51:18 Speaker 04 They're totally unimportant. I swear to God, she meant nothing.
51:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I, I love your voice. It's so creamy.
51:30 Speaker 04 It's like, just like a glass of buttermilk and then go.
51:32 Speaker 00 Her.
51:34 Speaker 04 Her. Yeah, this, this version that I sent you was the version that's Frank Sinatra and Nancy Sinatra.
51:41 Speaker 00 I didn't know that was Nancy and Frank. I actually didn't know it in a deep way. I knew the song very well, but I didn't ever think about it.
51:50 Speaker 04 Well, many people have done it, right?
51:51 Speaker 00 Many people have done it, but I didn't think about it being a father and a daughter.
51:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, it, it's sort of like, hey, don't.
51:58 Speaker 00 Getting cheeky with each other.
51:59 Speaker 04 Well, it's, it's like lyrically, clearly they're just want to have, spend time together and sing together. You know?
52:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, which is sweet.
52:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, which is really sweet. I mean, I, I, you know,
52:14 Speaker 04 you can only dream that you would like sing with your kids one day or play with, music with your kids one day.
52:19 Speaker 00 Totally.
52:20 Speaker 04 You played with your old man?
52:22 Speaker 00 I, uh, not really. And I, once in a room and it was really hilarious.
52:27 Speaker 04 Really?
52:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
52:28 Speaker 04 Why? What was, what was it?
52:29 Speaker 00 Because I had already broke out and I had already had two albums, maybe three. I think I was going through a breakup and I went to spend time with him and, and I brought like a little travel guitar, which was really crappy. And so I sat with him and he was teaching me like a pupil. You know, he was a really prolific teacher.
52:47 Speaker 04 Right.
52:48 Speaker 00 And that music is serious. They take it very seriously.
52:51 Speaker 04 Sure.
52:51 Speaker 00 And so it was just kind of funny because I was not. Like trying to be serious.
52:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, you were just trying to do a thing.
52:57 Speaker 00 I just wanted to jam with my dad.
53:00 Speaker 04 I just wanted to jam with my dad.
53:02 Speaker 00 I just wanted to jam with my dad. No, he was super nice. It wasn't, it wasn't like he was not into it. It was just, it was kind of a disconnect of the intention.
53:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:10 Speaker 00 Cause he was very seriously trying to teach me something.
53:13 Speaker 04 I mean, but that's life, isn't it though? It's like, it's so hard to, to understand someone else or to be understood.
53:18 Speaker 00 Yeah, and I think I wasn't ready to receive it in the way that he needed to teach it.
53:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's not a teaching moment.
53:24 Speaker 00 I was more just like, I just wanted to play.
53:27 Speaker 04 I'm going team Nora, I'm sorry.
53:31 Speaker 00 But it was a sweet, it was a, it was a sweet thing that we tried. It was too bad it never really, really happened.
53:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:37 Speaker 00 Yeah. But I get, I play with my sister sometimes, my half sister who learned from him and.
53:43 Speaker 04 So she was teaching you too?
53:45 Speaker 00 No, no, she can just jam with me. It's really special.
53:48 Speaker 04 I think that's the nature of jamming is the, much like the spread on toast, it's just supposed to get all over the place.
53:55 Speaker 00 Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
53:58 Speaker 04 Again, in the imperfection zone. I'm really setting myself up to make any mistakes I want.
54:03 Speaker 00 It's gonna be great. I love it. I love that you picked this song and I love that this is the first song you picked. Because usually I have to coax people to pick a cover and.
54:12 Speaker 04 Oh, I was like, when you, when you were like, we could play some yours. I thought, my first reaction was, oh.
54:18 Speaker 00 Yeah, you said no.
54:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, I was like.
54:20 Speaker 00 But, you know, it's like a, it's like a choose your own adventure.
54:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:25 Speaker 00 It can be whatever we want.
54:26 Speaker 04 Okay, if I ever come back here.
54:28 Speaker 00 We'll do anything you want. Okay.
54:29 Speaker 04 Nothing but coves.
54:30 Speaker 00 I'll pick two and you pick two.
54:32 Speaker 04 That's great. We'll go, yeah, like unnecessary competition, even though it's not. We'll put them in a box, like two, like four turtles.
54:41 Speaker 00 Mine are better.
54:42 Speaker 04 Four turtles racing.
54:46 Speaker 04 All right, well, all right, I'll see you out there.
54:49 Speaker 00 Okay, I'll see you there.
54:52 Speaker 04 One, two, three.
55:03 Speaker 05 I know I stand in line until you think you have the time to spend an evening with me
55:13 Speaker 05 And if we go someplace to dance, I know that there's a chance you won't be leaving with me Oh yeah Then afterwards we drop into a quiet little place and have a drink or two
55:33 Speaker 05 And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "I love you"
55:43 Speaker 05 I can see it in your eyes that you despise the same old lies you heard the night before
55:53 Speaker 05 And though it's just a lie to you and me, it's true and never felt so right before
56:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, it felt as good
56:03 Speaker 05 I practice every day to find some clever lines to say to make the meaning come true
56:13 Speaker 05 Then I think I'll wait until the evening gets late and I'm alone with you
56:23 Speaker 05 The time is right, your perfume fills my head, the stars get red and all the night's so blue
56:33 Speaker 05 And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "I love you"
56:42 Speaker 04 Yeah
56:55 Speaker 04 Oh.
57:42 Speaker 00 Ah!
57:43 Speaker 04 Oh, that was a blast.
57:44 Speaker 00 That was so fun!
57:47 Speaker 04 That was so much fun. That one I could just sing over and over and over.
57:50 Speaker 00 Me too! You're the best. Thank you.
57:53 Speaker 04 Thank you so much for having me.
57:54 Speaker 00 This was a blast. Aw, thanks for listening. That was so fun.
57:58 Speaker 03 That was awesome.
57:59 Speaker 00 He's a real personality.
58:02 Speaker 03 He's hilarious. He needs to guest host one of our episodes.
58:05 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think he should. I think we should.
58:07 Speaker 03 This was his audition in the past.
58:08 Speaker 00 I feel like there's many guests we've had that should be a guest host.
58:12 Speaker 03 Oh, we should do that. That'd be fun.
58:13 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think it'd be fun. You know, give us a little break.
58:16 Speaker 03 Yes.
58:17 Speaker 00 Maybe they can do all the editing and post-production as well.
58:19 Speaker 03 Oh, great, yeah. Let's go on vacation. Where are we gonna go?
58:22 Speaker 00 Um, first song we did was "Make It With You" from Queens of the Stone Age, from the album Era Vulgares 2007 that was released. The second song we played was called "This Lullaby", from Queens of the Stone Age Songs for the Deaf, released in 2002. The third song we played was "Collapsia", from Queens of the Stone Age Like Clockwork, released in 2013. It's also on the Alive in the Catacombs live recording, which is a pretty special version. Check it out. The fourth song we did was "Something Stupid", originally recorded by the great Frank Sinatra and Nancy Sinatra, written by Carson Parks. From the album The World We Knew, which was a Frank Sinatra album in 1967 that was
59:07 Speaker 00 released. Special thanks to Joshua Homme for joining us today. Next week, we'll be back with Lucius. Woo! Norah Jones is Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Visit Norah Jones' channel and be sure to subscribe while you're there. I'm your host, Norah Jones. This episode was recorded at Westlake Studios in Los Angeles, California by Thomas Warren. Assistant engineer was Danforth Webster. Backline tech, Jason Moser. Gaffer, Miki Inoguchi. Mixed by Jamie Landry. Audio post-production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Additional recording by Matt Marinelli. Creative consulting by First3. Artwork by
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