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1:33 Speaker 02 Hi, everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of No Such Thing As A Fish, where we were joined by the brilliant Olga Koch. Now, if you remember the last time Anna was on maternity leave, Olga came on the show, and she absolutely blew us away. She was one of our favorite guests in that run, so we were so delighted to have her back. I'm sure you're gonna really enjoy this episode. And when you do, you're gonna want to find out more about Olga. Now, the best way to do that is to go to her website. It is rock'n'rollga.
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3:18 Speaker 03 Hello and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing As A Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Hoburn. My name is Dan Schreiber. I am sitting here with James Harkin, Andrew Hunter Murray and Olga Koch. And once again, we have gathered around the microphones with our four favourite facts from the last seven days. And in a particular order, here we go. Starting with fact number one, and that is Olga.
3:41 Speaker 04 My fact is that TLC held the head of their recording label, Clive Davis, hostage in order to renegotiate their recording contract.
3:51 Speaker 05 Brilliant idea. Brilliant.
3:53 Speaker 04 As they should.
3:54 Speaker 03 As they should have. This is an amazing story, isn't it? Because-
3:56 Speaker 02 Have we, sorry, before we go anywhere, have we decided how much you're being paid for this podcast?
4:02 Speaker 04 I have locked the doors preemptively. So apparently, basically their album sold something over 10 million copies and they made $75 million off of it, but each of them, the trio, got paid only 50k.
4:14 Speaker 03 Wow.
4:15 Speaker 02 So who are the trio?
4:16 Speaker 03 Well, the trio TLC, so you've got Lisa Left Eye Lopez.
4:19 Speaker 02 She's the L.
4:20 Speaker 03 She's the L. You've got Chili, who is the...
4:23 Speaker 02 From Bluey?
4:24 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah. So prior to turning into a talking dog, Chili was there and then there was T-Boss. I think she was called T-Boss?
4:31 Speaker 05 Yes.
4:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:32 Speaker 04 I believe so.
4:33 Speaker 05 Tia Watkins.
4:34 Speaker 03 That's right.
4:35 Speaker 05 And I didn't know, I thought I didn't know who TLC were. And then I realised they did that song.
4:39 Speaker 04 Waterfalls?
4:40 Speaker 05 No.
4:41 Speaker 04 Creep?
4:42 Speaker 05 Scrub.
4:43 Speaker 03 Scrub.
4:43 Speaker 04 No Scrubs.
4:44 Speaker 05 Scrubs or No Scrubs?
4:45 Speaker 04 Oh my god, No Scrubs, yeah.
4:46 Speaker 05 No Scrubs, which I do like. But I'd, no, I don't think I know Waterfall.
4:49 Speaker 04 Don't go chasing waterfalls.
4:53 Speaker 05 Oh!
4:56 Speaker 02 Welcome, welcome to our friends at PRS again.
5:01 Speaker 05 Yes, that's a brilliant song. Oh, well, great.
5:04 Speaker 04 They harmonised so well, it actually was going to identify as the actual recording.
5:08 Speaker 05 That was quite something. I was ready for you to come in with a snare drum or something. That was lovely.
5:11 Speaker 03 He was gonna do the rap. We just didn't go long enough. So yeah, TLC. TLC, that generated $75 million. They got $50,000 each. They thought, uh-uh, no way. And so they went into Clive Davis's office and they, they brought lackeys with them.
5:28 Speaker 04 They stationed them outside, outside the room and said, no one in, no one out.
5:32 Speaker 05 And they, I gather the lackeys were from when Lisa had been in the big house.
5:38 Speaker 04 Yes, and she made some friends.
5:39 Speaker 05 Yes, and she had been on court mandated rehab and that was after she burnt down her boyfriend's house. I believe not on purpose.
5:47 Speaker 03 Yeah. Completely accidentally.
5:49 Speaker 05 She had put a lot of his, not completely accidentally.
5:52 Speaker 02 Did she not end up in prison? That doesn't suggest accidental, does it?
5:56 Speaker 05 Well, what, what had happened was, she had alleged various things against him, like assault. And I think she'd found him cheating on her. So it was quite, I would say quite a vexed relationship. She had put a load of his sneakers in the bath and set fire to them. Now, unfortunately, the bath was a low quality model, uh, because she had also burned down his previous bath. So he'd, the previous time he'd annoyed her.
6:21 Speaker 04 You don't know any TLC songs and yet here you are.
6:25 Speaker 05 This is what the research stage is for. But basically, they'd had a marble bath and she'd put a lot of stuff in there and set fire to it, which had damaged the bath. So her boyfriend had replaced the bath with a cheap fiberglass model, which was a bit more flammable. So the next time she pulled the, "I'm gonna put some of your stuff in the bath and burn it" routine, it burnt down the whole house.
6:43 Speaker 03 It melted the bath and the fire spread. So she didn't mean to do it. First time, it was all the teddy bears that he had given her as presents. So yeah. So she got, she did some time. And then when she was let out, TLC formed. They released two albums, Crazy Sexy Cool, which is the album we're talking about, which has waterfalls and so on. Second album went ballistically huge. And, and so, yeah, they went and held him hostage and they maintained a good relationship afterwards. I mean, you know, these women brought guns. It wasn't like, it wasn't like just a nice little hostage taking. You know what a nice hostage situation?
7:15 Speaker 02 When I read this fact, I thought, oh, that's probably just a publicity stunt and they probably didn't really do it. But that's not the case.
7:22 Speaker 03 No, they've spoken about it quite a few times in interviews and they try and play down the gun element to it. They say, they never took the gun out. But there was a gun there. Lovely.
7:30 Speaker 04 I'll also say, it's like 94, around 94, right?
7:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, 94.
7:34 Speaker 04 Obviously, there's been like endless boy band documentaries made about this, but record labels were really predatory at the time, right? Because they would essentially give you all this money in advance and then you'd have to pay it back. So I think sometimes violence is, I don't know where I'm going with this.
7:51 Speaker 02 And while I was looking at some other historical musical contracts, actually, my research for this came from the latest series of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here, which I watched for the first time in about 20 years. And Jack Osborne was on it. And he talked about his grandfather called Don Arden. And Don Arden apparently got the small faces to work for him, because he was an agent, by dangling them upside down out of an upper floor balcony by the ankles until they signed. And Jack Osborne said this on I'm a Celebrity and I checked it and I think it is mostly true. Don Arden in his biography said that he didn't do it. It was a group of thugs that he'd hired.
8:33 Speaker 04 Oh, well, that's a good story.
8:35 Speaker 02 Who overstepped the mark, he said.
8:38 Speaker 05 That would be Sharon Osbourne's.
8:39 Speaker 02 Sharon Osbourne's father, Don Arden, born in Manchester, and he had a little phone box in Manchester where he used to work in. And he was such a gangster that no one would go in to make a phone call because they knew that if they went anywhere near his phone box, they'd get the shit beat out of them.
8:56 Speaker 05 Wow.
8:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, he was like a real gangster, like probably the most gangster-y of all the record boxes.
9:02 Speaker 05 Gosh.
9:03 Speaker 04 He also invented the coworking space.
9:05 Speaker 05 Yeah.
9:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:06 Speaker 04 The way that people like park up at a Starbucks for like hours on end.
9:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:10 Speaker 05 Wait, was he working full time in the phone box?
9:12 Speaker 04 Well, that's what I'm asking.
9:14 Speaker 02 That was his office. He would send people that phone number and they wanted to speak to him, they'd have to ring his phone box.
9:20 Speaker 04 Okay, that's brilliant.
9:21 Speaker 05 That's incredible. That is incredible.
9:22 Speaker 02 It's a flex.
9:23 Speaker 05 Yeah, that is. Olga, are you a fan of Ray?
9:26 Speaker 04 What do you mean by that?
9:27 Speaker 05 She's a singer?
9:28 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, Ray with an E. I couldn't hear the E when you were.
9:31 Speaker 05 Where the hell is my husband? Where the hell is my husband? What a song. She kept being asked, when's your album coming out? When's your album coming out? And she'd say, oh, you know, and then in 2021, she got asked the question and she sort of snapped and she posted online, I've been on a four album deal for the last seven years, but the record label keep on not allowing me to release an album. They say, oh, you're not ready and oh, not yet. You know, sometimes the person signs you up for a deal and then they leave the company. So there's no one inside saying, right, where's the Ray album? So, yeah, all the label doesn't want to finance a campaign.
10:03 Speaker 04 Wow. I think she did eventually get out of it, right? And that's, and then she self-released 21st Century Blues.
10:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
10:09 Speaker 05 Oh, is that self-released?
10:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:11 Speaker 05 So it's still, it's still sort of going on that you sign up and then you don't get.
10:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:16 Speaker 02 The other big one is New Jeans, isn't it? Who is like the massive K-pop band. And it even went into like South Korean parliament was talking about whether they should be allowed to get out of their contract. I think it still hasn't been sorted yet.
10:28 Speaker 04 When in K-pop, it's even harder because obviously they start at like 13 and it's like a basically a boarding school. So how long are you technically paying them back for the services that the label provided for you?
10:37 Speaker 02 And I don't know if it's in K-pop because I don't listen to that much, but in J-pop, like the bands will. They'll have the members and then the members will leave and then new members will come up. So it'll be the same band, but there will be just completely different people. Right. Like the Sugababes.
10:50 Speaker 05 All the ship of Theseus.
10:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
10:52 Speaker 05 Or Trigger's broom. Pick your metaphor. But is that, so I was thinking about, there's that band, is it AKB48?
10:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
10:57 Speaker 05 And are they Japanese?
10:58 Speaker 02 From Akihabara.
10:59 Speaker 05 And there are like 48, there are about 48 of them, give or take.
11:02 Speaker 02 Exactly, yeah.
11:02 Speaker 05 But I was thinking, they were famous years ago and it's like, it's like teeth, isn't it?
11:06 Speaker 02 It's like shark teeth.
11:07 Speaker 05 You lose, well, you lose a tooth.
11:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, but in human teeth, you only have two sets of teeth.
11:11 Speaker 05 What? Oh, I've been so cavalier. I've been waiting for these new ones to come through for ages.
11:16 Speaker 04 I guess it's like S Club Juniors, but if it was all one band.
11:19 Speaker 02 Yes, it's like if S Club Juniors came through and became S Club again and then S Club Babies came along and became S Club Juniors.
11:26 Speaker 05 Yes. So good.
11:28 Speaker 04 Um, I would, I'd like to say that what just happened is you said Ray and I did like a cool young reference. I mean, you went, I can go even younger. Do you know K-pop? Anyone wanna be more hip?
11:38 Speaker 03 I would just say that the surprise biggest girl group of 2025 has to be Huntrix.
11:45 Speaker 04 Well, oh, are they from Demon Hunters?
11:47 Speaker 03 They certainly are.
11:48 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
11:49 Speaker 03 And Golden.
11:50 Speaker 04 They got nominated for like every Grammy. It was crazy.
11:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, and they're probably gonna get an Oscar nomination and they, they're now a traveling band, basically, because it's been so successful. They had a number one billboard.
11:59 Speaker 05 Sorry, like old person here, what?
12:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:02 Speaker 05 What?
12:02 Speaker 03 An animation was released earlier this year on Netflix called K-pop Demon Hunters, which has just absolutely dominated children's parties and Netflix streams like nothing else.
12:12 Speaker 04 And it has a specific song in it called Golden that I would say that the success of Golden is only comparable to, you remember when Frozen came out and it was Let It Go? And at first it was just kids and then it was everybody all the time. That's what happened to Golden.
12:24 Speaker 05 Interesting.
12:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:26 Speaker 05 Have you guys heard of Duran Duran? Can we just haul the conversation back?
12:31 Speaker 03 Duran Duran, of course.
12:32 Speaker 02 Yes.
12:33 Speaker 03 Of course.
12:33 Speaker 04 I heard you the first time, but.
12:34 Speaker 05 I was, I was saying.
12:38 Speaker 05 I was looking at problems between bands and their fans as well, like breaches of contract, as well as breaches of contract. In 2014, they were reported to be suing their own fan club.
12:48 Speaker 02 No.
12:49 Speaker 05 Which I love.
12:50 Speaker 04 That's so cool.
12:51 Speaker 05 It's great. They'd signed an agreement with this fan club company called Worldwide Fan Clubs, which said Duran Duran will get 75% of the profits from the fan club, but these guys will run it. And they alleged that it hadn't been run properly and they hadn't been collecting membership fees. It became an incredibly boring and technical story, but I like the idea of suing your own fans.
13:09 Speaker 02 I wonder why, as the person who does our inbox.
13:15 Speaker 02 I was looking at some of the oldest contracts from music, and the first person I think to get a royalty was a guy called Albert Chevalier. Have you heard of him?
13:27 Speaker 05 No.
13:27 Speaker 02 No?
13:28 Speaker 05 Oh, I love his, I love his second album.
13:31 Speaker 02 He got one shilling, which is five pence for every dozen records sold. This was in 1891.
13:38 Speaker 05 Brilliant.
13:39 Speaker 02 And he's also famous for inventing or popularizing the phrase "watcha."
13:44 Speaker 05 Really?
13:44 Speaker 02 Which means like, hello.
13:46 Speaker 05 Yeah.
13:47 Speaker 03 Was that in his songs?
13:49 Speaker 02 It already existed, but it wasn't that popular. But he had a song called "Watcha Knocked Him Out The Old Kent Road."
13:56 Speaker 05 Right.
13:56 Speaker 02 And that's where that really took off.
13:59 Speaker 05 That is so funny.
14:00 Speaker 04 Well, speaking of "watcha," did you know the word "hello" was popularized by the song "Hello My Baby, Hello My Darling"?
14:06 Speaker 02 No.
14:07 Speaker 04 Before, they wanted to use "ahoy" to pick up a phone, and "hello" was people mocking people picking up the phone.
14:12 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:13 Speaker 04 I really hope this is true.
14:14 Speaker 05 Wait, so.
14:15 Speaker 04 We need to research this.
14:15 Speaker 05 So, did that song come before the phone?
14:17 Speaker 04 No.
14:18 Speaker 05 Okay, so the phone happened, "ahoy" was being used.
14:21 Speaker 04 Yes.
14:21 Speaker 02 Alexander Graham Bell wants to say "ahoy hoy."
14:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:24 Speaker 05 That's right.
14:25 Speaker 04 And then "hello" was slang at the time. And "Hello My Baby, Hello My Darling" was them making fun of people using "hello" on the phone.
14:31 Speaker 05 Wow. Isn't it wild? When you think of time travelers who would come to our present day, the things you wouldn't expect would blow their mind. You're using "hello" as the greeting? That was like, fifth version of how you would do that. That was like, minor slang. That's wild. You know, with-
14:47 Speaker 03 Within the world of TLC, they basically fell out at one point. Lisa Left Eye Lopez got in big beef with the other two and they started sort of cussing each other within articles. So Lisa in Vibe Magazine called them out, saying that everything's going terrible. Then in Entertainment Weekly, T-Boss and Chili said, well, she's manipulative, she's evil, she's a bad person. So then Lisa Left Eye Lopez replies in Entertainment Weekly, saying, okay, we've got three albums left on our contract with this company. Let's release an album that is three CDs long, but each of them are solo albums and we'll let the fans decide who they think the best solo album is.
15:26 Speaker 05 But hang on, is this a randomized controlled trial? Is it a blind listen? Because you have to, if you're gonna get a-
15:32 Speaker 04 You'll recognize them from the voice shortly.
15:34 Speaker 05 Well, that's what you'd have to do. You'd have to get someone else to sing them all.
15:37 Speaker 03 To sing them all, right.
15:38 Speaker 05 Are we doing this scientifically or are we not? Are we just-
15:41 Speaker 02 Like when the IRA are on TV and they have to get someone to do the voiceover.
15:44 Speaker 05 They all have to be done by Jerry Adams. That's it.
15:49 Speaker 03 And that was the plan. So Jerry Adams then wrote to Entertainment Weekly and said, well, I'm keen, what about you guys? So it was meant to be called The Challenge and that was the idea, three CDs which would then finish their contract, because that's how many albums to go.
16:01 Speaker 02 I like the idea, but it's a pretty bold move, isn't it? Someone's gonna come last in that competition.
16:07 Speaker 04 Please never do this on Fish.
16:09 Speaker 02 No, we're never doing that because Anna is just gonna get by far the most listens.
16:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, we'll be getting squashed by her.
16:15 Speaker 05 Just while we're on things the Home Office might have been interested in, Jerry Adams. The Home Office used to have its own boy band.
16:22 Speaker 04 What?
16:23 Speaker 05 Yeah. They were called Mister Mina and it was three, sort of, I think, teenage lads. And they would go around schools up north as part of a government initiative to deter Islamist extremism. So they had various songs about things like 9/11 or the, you know, the sort of, the temptations of going down an extremist route.
16:45 Speaker 03 Wow.
16:45 Speaker 05 It's unclear whether they knew they were being funded, because there's quite a secretive Home Office programme which-
16:50 Speaker 02 Oh, really?
16:51 Speaker 05 Which does a bit of cultural outreach and I'm not clear whether or not they knew.
16:55 Speaker 02 There was a lot of that was in the back of the day, like there was-
16:56 Speaker 04 What are you talking about?
16:58 Speaker 02 Well, during like the Cold War, there was lots of people who became really big and were sort of travelling around Eastern Europe. And they thought it was all because how great they were. But actually, the US government was just paying for everything.
17:12 Speaker 03 Exactly.
17:12 Speaker 04 Is it Scorpion's Wind of Change vibes?
17:15 Speaker 02 I don't know what that means, but yeah.
17:16 Speaker 04 Oh, okay. Never mind. I take that back. There's like a rumor that Winds of Change broke the Soviet Union, the song.
17:22 Speaker 02 I bet it is that stuff.
17:23 Speaker 03 The song, right.
17:24 Speaker 05 Well, there was a lot of CIA stuff going around.
17:26 Speaker 02 I often wonder, because at the time of recording, we're number one in Apple's comedy podcast charts. And I always think that's so mental that probably the government are doing this. And probably they're kind of training us to take over some country or other.
17:39 Speaker 03 Psyops.
17:40 Speaker 04 Wait, so you're telling me that a bunch of teenage boys singing about 9/11 didn't realise that they were a government?
17:47 Speaker 02 Inside hand schools.
17:49 Speaker 03 I'm so glad that's what came out of your mouth instead of, wait, you're telling me this piece of shit is the number one comedy podcast?
17:55 Speaker 04 No, no doubt about that.
17:56 Speaker 05 I mean, we know that a lot of our lessons on fish do come from Vauxhall specifically, just next to Vauxhall Station.
18:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's true.
18:04 Speaker 05 Like hundreds of thousands every week, just from there.
18:07 Speaker 04 I thought you were talking about the gay saunas.
18:10 Speaker 05 Yes, but the gay saunas are MI5 funded. Sorry, just to be completely clear.
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19:17 Speaker 03 Okay, it is time for fact number two, and that is my fact. My fact this week is that the height of the world's third tallest structure was picked because it worked as a pun.
19:28 Speaker 02 Love it.
19:29 Speaker 05 So this is a better, so better be good. This is the number one comedy podcast, Dan. Don't send us spiraling back down those charts.
19:37 Speaker 03 So this is the Tokyo Sky Tree, which is 634 metres. It's the tallest freestanding tower in the world.
19:44 Speaker 05 Where is it?
19:45 Speaker 03 It's in Tokyo.
19:52 Speaker 03 And yeah, its height was picked very specifically because the area that they were building this on was part of an old region that was known as Musashi. And Mu, Sa and Shi, broken down, are Mu, six, Sa, three, and Shi, four. So Mu, Sa, Shi is the exact height that they decided on.
20:13 Speaker 05 Brilliant.
20:13 Speaker 03 Yeah. And interestingly, there are different ways that you can count in Japan, as in the way that you say the words, because there is old Japanese and there's a few dollars. So Mu is part of an old version.
20:25 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's, it's, you need to actually go Roku.
20:27 Speaker 03 Exactly. So it's not Roku, but Mu works as well, just for anyone wondering why that's the case. Yeah. So they deliberately did that as a pun.
20:35 Speaker 05 Lovely.
20:36 Speaker 03 It's very cool.
20:38 Speaker 02 Does that happen much in the world? I don't imagine it does. You know what I thought of when you said this?
20:44 Speaker 03 Yes.
20:44 Speaker 02 The, was it the Crystal Palace?
20:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:47 Speaker 02 Which was 1,851 metres in, or yards in length, or feet in length, because it was opened in 1851.
20:55 Speaker 05 That's brilliant. I didn't know that.
20:57 Speaker 04 That's cute stuff.
20:58 Speaker 02 Doesn't it help when you don't remember the unit?
21:01 Speaker 05 Gotta be feet, surely. Because it's about 600 metres. Like, that's long enough.
21:06 Speaker 02 A mile long.
21:06 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. This kind of gets to happen a lot in Japan. So this is part of a tradition of Japanese puns called guruwase. So it can be associated with people, ideas. It can even be associated with pi.
21:20 Speaker 02 As in the number?
21:21 Speaker 03 Yeah. So if you say 3.14159265 in Japanese, those all are numbers that make words. And that comes out as a sentence that means an obstetrician faces towards a foreign country.
21:34 Speaker 05 Wow.
21:35 Speaker 03 They just like finding all these little patterns within that world. If you do 18782 plus 18782 equals 3756, so as a calculation.
21:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:47 Speaker 03 That comes out as bad person plus bad person equals massacre. When you translate it into Japanese words.
21:53 Speaker 02 Jesus, yeah.
21:54 Speaker 04 Yep.
21:55 Speaker 05 We have wide at six, eight, seven, because seven, eight, nine.
21:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:58 Speaker 05 So, you know, we've got our own versions of that in our culture.
22:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
22:03 Speaker 02 It's a classic. That's the first joke my daughter learned.
22:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:06 Speaker 05 Yeah. Um, wow, that's bizarre.
22:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:09 Speaker 05 It's very cool.
22:10 Speaker 03 It is very cool. There are, there are, I'll just mention two others just in case.
22:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, go for it, please.
22:13 Speaker 03 There's a famed Admiral Yamamoto, whose given name comes from the older pronunciation for the word 56, which was his dad's age when he was born. So Yamamoto, 56. Yeah. And then there's a baseball player quite famous in America called Ichiro Suzuki. And his jersey number was 51, which in Japanese is Goichi, which is his first name.
22:38 Speaker 04 Oh, fun.
22:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, so it was Goichi.
22:41 Speaker 04 That's really fun.
22:42 Speaker 02 This is all really good stuff.
22:44 Speaker 04 I wish I could riff on it.
22:45 Speaker 02 I don't know. You know, normally we kind of just bants on these, but I just like hearing them.
22:49 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:49 Speaker 04 It's so sweet.
22:50 Speaker 03 Yeah. Ichiro was an amazing baseball player. So he was an outfielder and whenever he caught a ball, it was seen as like really well done. So that area was known as Area 51.
22:58 Speaker 04 Oh, that's wow. So good. Oh, God, I love that.
23:02 Speaker 03 Yeah. So that's, that's a thing that happens in Japan quite a lot.
23:04 Speaker 05 Love it.
23:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:05 Speaker 04 The only thing that the entire time was like, and sometimes when I eat tiramisu, I say, I tiramiss you. That's really, I mean, that's the, the one pun, the only pun that was just circulating around my head.
23:15 Speaker 03 You say it to the food?
23:16 Speaker 04 I say it to the food because it sounds like miss you.
23:19 Speaker 02 Tokyo, have you been?
23:20 Speaker 04 I did go to Tokyo a couple of years ago. I wrote a whole show about it. Basically, I met a guy at a wedding. We spent an unforgettable night and then he lived in New Zealand and I lived in the UK. So we decided to meet three months later in Japan.
23:32 Speaker 03 Lovely.
23:32 Speaker 02 Ah, nice.
23:32 Speaker 04 And it was a disaster.
23:33 Speaker 02 Oh.
23:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, we absolutely hated each other's guts.
23:36 Speaker 03 Really?
23:36 Speaker 04 Yeah. But what a beautiful city to hate each other's guts in.
23:40 Speaker 03 Did you find that out early on in the trip?
23:42 Speaker 04 Uh, 45 seconds at night.
23:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:44 Speaker 03 And then did you say goodbye or did you hang out the trip?
23:46 Speaker 04 Baby, we planned too much to say goodbye. Non-refundable train tickets, restaurant reservations, guided tours.
23:53 Speaker 03 Did you, did you go up the Skytree?
23:54 Speaker 04 Um, I, we went up, up a building of some sort.
23:58 Speaker 02 Do you think if he'd have told you all of Dan's puns, then things might have gone better?
24:01 Speaker 04 100%. Maybe I would have tear missed him.
24:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, the entire time I was like, I wish I had those in my pocket to fill the silence.
24:12 Speaker 02 Lord.
24:13 Speaker 03 Wow, that's extraordinary.
24:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:16 Speaker 04 It's, it's one of those things where everybody sort of always wonders what would happen if they did such an impulsive thing. And I'm here to tell you, this is why you don't do that.
24:24 Speaker 02 Do you remember, who was it? Was it Ai Weiwei who did that thing where they got two people to walk along the whole of the? I think it was Marina Abramovic. Oh, yeah. So they, she walked all the way along the Great Wall. Great Wall of China and then met someone halfway and then kissed and then.
24:41 Speaker 04 They broke up.
24:41 Speaker 03 It was her, yeah, it was her both artistic partner and her partner in life. And they both started on either end of the Great Wall, met in the middle and broke up when they met in the middle.
24:50 Speaker 02 Did they always plan to break up or did they just remember they hated each other when they got there?
24:54 Speaker 03 I think, yeah, 45 seconds into the, the meetup, it's only remembered.
24:59 Speaker 02 What I mostly remember about Tokyo is how busy it is. Like, because we live in a city, London, right? And you think, oh, it's really busy. And then you go to Tokyo and it's just like a million times busier. Of the 51 busiest train stations in the world, all but six of them are in Japan. And the top three are in Tokyo. Oish.
25:19 Speaker 04 51?
25:21 Speaker 03 Go Ishii.
25:22 Speaker 02 Go Ishii, yeah. The most busy.
25:26 Speaker 03 Sorry, but who else, who makes the top 51?
25:33 Speaker 03 I don't see the chart that does the chart 51.
25:36 Speaker 02 It does feel like once you get to 52, then they're all in a different country.
25:41 Speaker 02 But the busiest railway station is Shinjuku. And they had in 2022, the average number of daily passengers was 2,704,703, which is the equivalent of every adult in Uruguay passing through the station every day. Wow. That's just one station.
26:00 Speaker 04 Thank you for putting into terms and numbers I understand.
26:04 Speaker 04 I can't picture that many people, can you?
26:06 Speaker 02 We all know the entire adult population of Uruguay, not the population, the adult population. Yeah, the kids of Uruguay are gonna have a field day with us. The grownups are away.
26:16 Speaker 03 You'll thank us in five months' time when you're in Uruguay, meeting some Australian from the other side of the world.
26:22 Speaker 05 The chat runs dry. Wow, I had no idea Uruguay was so small.
26:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, it is small, actually.
26:27 Speaker 05 That's a small population.
26:28 Speaker 02 It's much smaller than you think, but it's just that tiny little bit in South America, isn't it? It's not a very big country.
26:33 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do we have any listeners in Uruguay? Podcast at qi.com.
26:37 Speaker 03 Ooh, nice, lovely stuff.
26:38 Speaker 05 Throw it in.
26:38 Speaker 02 Send us some Frey Bento.
26:40 Speaker 03 Um, this Tokyo Sky Tower is a radio and television tower. Now, we spoke about one very recently, the BT Tower. So it's a hot topic on the fish world right now.
26:50 Speaker 05 This one is amazing. I've been reading a bit about it. Well, yeah, give us some. So guess what they did for the 10th anniversary to celebrate it?
26:57 Speaker 04 Was it a pun?
26:58 Speaker 05 It was, no, it wasn't. It was, okay, what's a famous Japanese cultural thing? Godzilla. Uh, more artist, even more artistic.
27:06 Speaker 04 Anime?
27:06 Speaker 05 Even more artistic.
27:09 Speaker 02 AKB 48?
27:11 Speaker 05 Kabuki theatre.
27:12 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
27:13 Speaker 04 Okay.
27:13 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah. They have the, you know, it's an, this is the ancient centuries old form of theatre. And they have really famous actors and it's quite dynastic as well, isn't it? So sometimes you'll do it because you, you know, your great, great grandfather, et cetera, did it. So for the 10th anniversary of the Skytree Tower, they got a kabuki actor called Ichikawa Ibizo XI to perform his famous glare from the top of the building.
27:35 Speaker 04 That's incredible.
27:36 Speaker 05 It's so good. There's a famous glare called the nirami and it's done by moving each eye in different directions.
27:44 Speaker 02 Oh, that's cool.
27:45 Speaker 05 Which is good. Uh, and also that means that Ichikawa Ibizo XI could qualify as a fighter pilot because I believe you have to do that to be a fighter pilot.
27:52 Speaker 02 To be able to look in two different directions at once.
27:54 Speaker 05 I think you have to have one eye on the mig who's up ahead and you have to have one eye on your instruments. So I think you need to be able to, I think Prince Harry can do it.
28:02 Speaker 04 Wait, is this a thing that you can make yourself do?
28:04 Speaker 05 Yeah, you can train for that.
28:06 Speaker 03 So your brain can take in two different?
28:09 Speaker 05 Yeah.
28:09 Speaker 02 Do you think Prince Harry is really good at doing those magic eye pictures?
28:12 Speaker 05 Yeah, definitely, definitely. Like, he's incredible at it.
28:16 Speaker 02 All day outside Athena like I used to do.
28:20 Speaker 05 He can get a book of those and just go through them. That's a tiger, that's a butterfly, that's a waterfall.
28:29 Speaker 05 Wow.
28:30 Speaker 03 Okay.
28:30 Speaker 05 Anyway, there you go.
28:31 Speaker 02 Olga, when you went to Tokyo, did you go to the Gotokuji Temple? Which has got all those sort of cats that wave their arms. Do you know those ones that you see in Chinese restaurants?
28:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, there's a temple just outside, it's just outside Tokyo, actually, where they have these. And the idea is that there was a guy, some priest or other was walking past and a cat let him come into the temple. And then that became the sort of lucky cat. And if you go there, there's thousands of them outside and you can, you know, pay a hundred yen and get your own one and then write a message on it and stuff like that. It's really cool.
29:08 Speaker 03 So is the cat waving you in as opposed to waving hello to you?
29:10 Speaker 02 It's, yeah, it is.
29:11 Speaker 03 Right.
29:12 Speaker 02 And also, actually, probably they evolved from waving penises, we think. So probably this story is like a new story. And where they actually came is that they were used in brothels. And they would have these lucky talismans in the shape of penises that were beckoning people into the brothels. And they were the things that evolved into the cats.
29:33 Speaker 04 I don't want to, I don't want to assume anything, but wouldn't the average person not be going to a brothel for a penis?
29:42 Speaker 02 No, but I suppose you just need some kind of symbol and it's hard to make a vagina wave.
29:48 Speaker 04 You've tried.
29:54 Speaker 02 Good lord.
29:57 Speaker 02 I could tell as I started that sentence, it was not going to end well.
30:02 Speaker 03 Wow. Yeah, gosh.
30:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:05 Speaker 04 But to answer your question, I did go and there's a tiny little cat at that temple that just says, please help.
30:12 Speaker 03 I have found, certainly for anyone who's not living in Tokyo, possibly the most famous musician that they have, certainly their songs is known more than most songs out there, right?
30:23 Speaker 02 So what you're saying is they're really famous in Tokyo, but anyone else wouldn't have heard of them?
30:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, and possibly in Tokyo, they might not even know the name of the person, but they will know the songs and be able to sing
30:32 Speaker 02 Okay.
30:33 Speaker 03 more songs of theirs than possibly any other composer.
30:36 Speaker 02 Are you gonna have a guess, Andy?
30:37 Speaker 05 I think it's Mr. Mina, the Home Office funded anti-terrorismist boy band. They're huge in Tokyo.
30:44 Speaker 02 It's gotta be the music in the underground, is it? Because whenever you go on a train, whenever you get into a station, they play a certain song in every station.
30:51 Speaker 03 There you go. That's what it is. So it's not what they call mis-
30:55 Speaker 05 Mis-
30:55 Speaker 03 Mr. Mina? Mr. Mina. It's-
30:57 Speaker 05 I've just got the joke in their name. Mr. Mina.
30:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:00 Speaker 05 Mr. Mina.
31:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:01 Speaker 05 That's good.
31:02 Speaker 02 Because they're more mean?
31:03 Speaker 05 No, I think terrorism is a Mr. Mina.
31:05 Speaker 03 A Mr. Mina.
31:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, no. I think it works on three levels.
31:07 Speaker 03 Get out.
31:09 Speaker 05 Wow.
31:09 Speaker 03 Wow.
31:10 Speaker 05 This is huge. Arguably, extremism is more than a misdemeanor, isn't it?
31:14 Speaker 02 Mister Meanest.
31:18 Speaker 02 What are we talking about? Dad, tell us.
31:20 Speaker 03 We were talking-
31:21 Speaker 02 Do your joke.
31:21 Speaker 03 It's not Mr. Mina, it's Mr. Minoru.
31:24 Speaker 02 Brilliant.
31:24 Speaker 03 And this is Minoru Mukaya, who is the Underground Train Composer. Every train station has its own unique jingle for when a train comes in and goes out. And he's done over 110 of them, and he will visit each one. And he will watch as the train comes in and try and invoke what kind of feeling it gives you. Yeah.
31:44 Speaker 02 I thought they were just random.
31:46 Speaker 03 No, he does it station by station, and every single one will be like, is this a historical area? I'm gonna use old Japanese instruments. Is this a new area? We're gonna use synths and electro.
31:55 Speaker 04 Oh my god, so they're not even all in the same style?
31:58 Speaker 03 No, exactly.
31:58 Speaker 04 That's so cool.
31:59 Speaker 03 Different song and different instruments.
32:01 Speaker 05 That's amazing.
32:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:02 Speaker 05 And it's not that it's useful for, say, blind people who need to hear where they are.
32:06 Speaker 03 It probably is.
32:07 Speaker 05 Recognisable.
32:08 Speaker 02 I gotta say, when I was in Tokyo, we actually stayed near Shinjuku. And whenever we got in, I would recognise the song. Like, you would just recognise the songs as you moved along, and you would know, oh, our station's coming. It's not always that easy with the different kanji and stuff, I guess.
32:23 Speaker 04 That was fantastic. What would you select for Holburn?
32:27 Speaker 05 Ooh.
32:27 Speaker 02 That's a good question.
32:28 Speaker 04 Is it your theme tune?
32:29 Speaker 02 Our theme tune, yeah, for sure. What about Margate, then?
32:32 Speaker 03 Margate? Um, oh god.
32:34 Speaker 02 I do like to be beside the seaside.
32:36 Speaker 05 Yeah.
32:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:37 Speaker 04 Also, the Libertines live there, don't they?
32:38 Speaker 03 They do.
32:39 Speaker 04 There you go.
32:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, they're neighbours. Um.
32:42 Speaker 04 Pizza friend, pizza friend.
32:43 Speaker 03 Keep it down, Libertines! It's a nightmare.
32:47 Speaker 05 Absolutely.
32:53 Speaker 03 Okay, it is time for fact number three, and that is James.
32:56 Speaker 02 Okay, my fact this week is that one idea to block Russian expansion in Eastern Europe is to create a 500 mile long bog.
33:04 Speaker 05 That's, it's so, such a cool idea.
33:07 Speaker 03 It's an amazing idea.
33:08 Speaker 05 Well, I'm a big fan of peat and bogs.
33:10 Speaker 02 And the big enemy of Russia.
33:12 Speaker 05 I'm in favor of blocking Russian expansionism. Seems we've had a bit of that.
33:16 Speaker 02 Well, actually, like, this is kind of one point of it. So this is an article that I read in the week, this week, and it's, it does two things that the EU is really trying to do at the moment, and that's number one, stop Russia from going west, but also to stop climate change. And bogs can do both of those.
33:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, because if you get rid of a bog, it releases a lot of CO2, doesn't it?
33:38 Speaker 02 Yeah, so if you make one, it stores it back.
33:41 Speaker 04 So is this an extension of like trench warfare? So you do a sort of World War I style trench and then you fill it with peat?
33:47 Speaker 02 It's kind of.
33:48 Speaker 04 How are we doing this?
33:48 Speaker 02 But you don't put any humans in it, I guess.
33:51 Speaker 03 No.
33:51 Speaker 02 But basically, there's already a bog there.
33:53 Speaker 05 It's a kind of, it's a kind of phantom bog.
33:56 Speaker 02 It is a phantom bog.
33:57 Speaker 04 It's a phantom bog.
33:58 Speaker 05 Well, it's.
33:58 Speaker 02 It kind of exists, but it doesn't exist as much as they want it to. So at the moment, if you go from, let's say you go from Helsinki all the way down past Baltic countries and then towards Poland and wherever, if you go on that line, there's a huge sort of boggy area that goes down there. But what they're going to try and do is make it more and more boggy.
34:18 Speaker 04 Can I ask who they are?
34:19 Speaker 03 NATO.
34:20 Speaker 02 NATO. So it's NATO, but it's also the governments of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. And what they're trying to do is put more and more water there, more and more peat there, so that if anyone tries to come across, it's very difficult. And that's something that's happened in history in warfare, that you basically, you water log an area and soldiers can't get past.
34:39 Speaker 03 And what's really lucky is it says by chance, almost, all of these boggy areas are on the border, but they're on NATO side of the border outside of Russia. So you've got, as James says, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, it's all running down, but they wouldn't have to go into Russia in order to build these bogs. So it's sort of, they can just do it.
34:57 Speaker 04 I love how eco-friendly this is. This is cool.
34:59 Speaker 02 And even better, Kaliningrad, which is like this little exclave of Russia, so it's still part of Russia, but it's not attached. And Belarus, which is like a real ally of Russia at the moment, there's a big old bog in between those places as well. So it's like a really different, that would be a really obvious place for an attack to happen because you could put your troops into Belarus and you can go through Kaliningrad. But actually, there's a bog there, so you can't get through.
35:24 Speaker 04 And dare I say, maybe this is gonna sound very stupid, but it almost makes you think that that's why the borders were drawn there in the first place?
35:30 Speaker 02 You're probably right.
35:31 Speaker 04 Okay.
35:31 Speaker 03 Maybe.
35:32 Speaker 04 It's not a coincidence that the bog's either there.
35:35 Speaker 03 Someone slapping their head going, "Damn it, I'm an idiot."
35:39 Speaker 05 But it's, it's really fascinating because lots of this land, the reason I say it's a phantom bog is that it's been drained. There are ditches that have been cut and then the wet, watery mass of this land drains away and the bog dries out.
35:52 Speaker 02 Because they've tried to reclaim it for years, for centuries, in fact.
35:55 Speaker 05 For agricultural purposes, you know, it means you can expand your farming land. And so all you need to do really is to stop draining them and block up the drainage ditches. And then a couple of years later, you have a bog. And there are all sorts of arguments going on about, well, the farmers won't be very happy with this and they might need some kind of subsidies. So I don't, it's not being hugely enacted. But one of the guys proposing it is a guy called Hans Euston, who is known as the Peetland Pope. I just like him so much.
36:19 Speaker 04 Is that, is our bog's a solution to every problem?
36:22 Speaker 05 Pretty much, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:24 Speaker 04 Have we, uh, have we considered a bog?
36:26 Speaker 05 Yeah. Yeah. So it's fascinating. And this was done at the, at the start of the war in Ukraine. It was the Ukrainian army. They blew up a dam which turned the whole of this Ipano River basin into a massive expanse of bogs and marshes. And it turned the area into what one defense consultant called an impassable turd. It just means you cannot drive a tank through there.
36:44 Speaker 02 But then actually also Russia did the same in, um, in Zaporizhzhia, and they blew up another dam to stop the counteroffensive of Ukraine. So both sides are blowing them up. And also, both of those dams were also blown up during World War II, when Germany attacked and went towards Russia. This exact same thing happened where they tried to stop the Germans by blowing up these two particular, one on the Dnipro and one on the Ipano rivers.
37:11 Speaker 03 Can I ask, why are bogs not, uh, defeatable to most modern armies?
37:17 Speaker 02 That tanks can't get through them.
37:18 Speaker 05 Yeah, I get that. They can't, you can't support the wage.
37:20 Speaker 03 No one's invented a thing that can just go, let's ride over the bog?
37:23 Speaker 02 Aeroplanes?
37:24 Speaker 05 Aeroplanes.
37:25 Speaker 04 We have not considered an airplane.
37:30 Speaker 02 No, like, you can get through the bogs, but it just slows you right down.
37:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
37:35 Speaker 02 And when you're being slowed down, you're more of a sitting duck.
37:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, and it forces you into a narrow path through the bog, for example. And then your enemy can just focus their fire on that narrow path. So you're sort of canalize your opponent.
37:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's pretty amazing, isn't it? The bog might be a huge contributor to the success.
37:54 Speaker 02 And like Andy says, it's like, it's not really happening that much at the moment, but in Finland it is and in Poland it is. So Finland have started reclaiming their bogs for this specific reason and Poland as well. So, yeah, it is happening.
38:06 Speaker 04 And it's also just from a sort of a purely philosophical perspective, always very comforting when the solution is like organic as opposed to it's like, you know what's going to defeat AI? Bogs.
38:17 Speaker 02 It's like for the whole of 20th century, it was barbed wire. But we had bogs all along.
38:22 Speaker 05 You're absolutely right. Do you know what percentage of greenhouse gases going into the atmosphere are due to degraded peatlands?
38:29 Speaker 02 Oh my God, Andy, I think you're going to tell us.
38:33 Speaker 03 We should guess though.
38:33 Speaker 05 Welcome to Quiz Corner.
38:36 Speaker 02 So this is one of your quizzes where we just guess a number between 100 and 100, isn't it?
38:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm going to say 38%. Because 38% is my official number now, that that was the answer to a quiz question about how much urine was in the international space station.
38:50 Speaker 02 I'm going to go itchy, 51%.
38:53 Speaker 04 To be completely honest, I was going to say 51 as well. Can you ask the question again?
38:56 Speaker 05 What percentage of greenhouse gases going into the atmosphere?
38:59 Speaker 02 I think it must be much lower than either of those.
39:01 Speaker 05 Due to degraded peatlands. And I'm going to be honest with you, Olga. If it was 38 or 51% of all greenhouse gases being due to degraded peatlands, I think we might have got more of a move on to solve the problem before now.
39:14 Speaker 02 You've got to realise that in these quizzes, sometimes callbacks is more important if you're getting the answer right.
39:20 Speaker 05 I'm so sorry. And I think that's an unfair clue to the final person in the quiz. Olga, would you like to guess maybe that 80% of all greenhouse gases due to degraded peatlands?
39:32 Speaker 04 I'm going to throw in 11.
39:33 Speaker 05 Well, your closest, it's four to five.
39:36 Speaker 02 Four to five, not forty five.
39:39 Speaker 05 Otherwise fifty one would have robbed home. Yeah, but that it is double flight. It's double all flights happening around the world, all hundreds of thousands of flights happening, you know, every day is due to is due to degraded peatlands. That's crazy.
39:51 Speaker 02 And you know what's bad for it?
39:53 Speaker 05 What?
39:53 Speaker 02 Mushrooms.
39:55 Speaker 05 Is that so?
39:56 Speaker 02 I do not like mushrooms. It has been long said on this podcast, but in the UK.
40:01 Speaker 04 Bad trip?
40:05 Speaker 02 In the UK, the mushrooms that you eat are made using peat that has been dug up from peatlands. They have to basically put the peat on top of their like little bodies of mushrooms. And that's what helps them to fruit. And that's what helps you to get them. And the UK mushroom industry gives the equivalent emissions of more than 2,600 cars.
40:30 Speaker 05 Okay.
40:30 Speaker 04 It's time someone took down the UK mushroom.
40:34 Speaker 05 I will say quite a small number of cars. So is it for all mushrooms?
40:38 Speaker 02 I only have one car.
40:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, no, fair enough, fair enough.
40:42 Speaker 02 No, but like, obviously it is bad to take peat out of areas because it takes a long time to get them back. So I think they are looking to find other ways to make mushrooms rather than using peat.
40:53 Speaker 05 That's great.
40:54 Speaker 04 Am I correct in thinking that they used to use it for whiskey and they stopped, right?
40:58 Speaker 02 They certainly did.
41:00 Speaker 05 They might still use.
41:01 Speaker 04 I think it's now a significantly smaller amount from what I.
41:05 Speaker 05 Yeah, interesting. Cause yeah, everyone's trying to go peat free in terms of like compost for your garden. You can still buy peat stuff, but there's a, there's been a big campaign to say probably can, can you use some peat free compost which you can get? So I didn't know that about the mushrooms.
41:16 Speaker 03 That's very cool. Have you guys heard about the forty acre bog?
41:20 Speaker 02 Forty acre bog?
41:21 Speaker 03 Yeah. Forty acre bog, this is in Lake Chippewa, uh, which is in Wisconsin. So this was a lake that was created in the 1920s. They flooded a swamp in order to do it. And, uh, as a result of it, this bog formed that's forty acres and it sort of sits in the middle of the lake. But it moves around.
41:39 Speaker 05 A bog in the middle of a lake?
41:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's pretty amazing. So it's got sort of mud plains. Underneath it and on top, it's very grassy and it's got a few trees, like thin trees sticking out and so on.
41:48 Speaker 02 I have seen this.
41:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's pretty amazing because it's it's transient, it moves around all the time. So what happens is there's a bridge that goes over the lake. And this bog keeps coming towards the bridge. And so what they do is they get all the boats. And they line up against the bog and they shove it back out of the way. They all drive the bog. Yeah.
42:06 Speaker 05 It's like an annual thing they have to do. They have to push the bog.
42:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, and it's not, it's not consistent. They have to check every morning that the bog isn't making its way back over it. And so they all.
42:14 Speaker 02 How does that even work?
42:16 Speaker 03 I know, it's wild, isn't it? You've seen images of it. It's pretty cool.
42:18 Speaker 05 It's stunning. It's absolutely stunning.
42:20 Speaker 04 That's so cool. So it doesn't, I'm, I assume it doesn't go that deep into the water if it's movable?
42:25 Speaker 05 No, no, no, no, it's not, it's not very far down.
42:27 Speaker 02 It's just floating Pete.
42:28 Speaker 05 It's floating matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:31 Speaker 04 That is so cool.
42:33 Speaker 02 Does anyone know where is the world's biggest bog? It's somewhere that's been mentioned on this podcast already.
42:39 Speaker 05 Tokyo.
42:40 Speaker 02 Not in Tokyo.
42:42 Speaker 05 Will it be somewhere, I'm gonna guess somewhere in Eastern Europe, somewhere like Belarus.
42:46 Speaker 02 You're close. It's Russia.
42:47 Speaker 03 Okay.
42:48 Speaker 02 It's the great.
42:49 Speaker 04 I mean, if you have that much landmass, statistically speaking.
42:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, absolutely. It's the great Vazhugian Maya. It's in Siberia and it is twice the size of Wales.
43:01 Speaker 03 Goodness.
43:02 Speaker 02 But again, to Russia, that's nothing. They've got areas the size of Wales coming out of their ears.
43:08 Speaker 02 And it comes from melting permafrost, basically. So the water melts from the permafrost, goes into this area and becomes a marshy land. And the worst thing about it is the flies and midges that live there. If you ask locals, they say that there's so many midges, they can drink enough blood from a random traveller that they will die of midgy bites.
43:28 Speaker 05 Oh, the traveller, the traveller will die? Not the midge dies of?
43:31 Speaker 02 No, they're having a great time. But yeah, that's what they say. And there is no doubt there is a lot of midges there, but whether they can actually drain you of all your blood, I think probably not. But anyone who works there has to wear like hazmat suits almost, or like beekeeper suits so that they don't get bitten.
43:48 Speaker 05 Oof, not for me.
43:49 Speaker 02 No, I don't like.
43:50 Speaker 05 Not for me.
43:51 Speaker 02 I don't even like one midge.
43:53 Speaker 05 Now, we all know Ireland.
43:54 Speaker 02 Oh, and love.
43:56 Speaker 05 Yeah.
43:57 Speaker 04 How many Waleses is that?
43:59 Speaker 05 They've got vast peaty areas.
44:01 Speaker 03 They do, okay.
44:02 Speaker 05 But how many?
44:05 Speaker 05 Irish people, according to the latest census, heat their homes by burning peat.
44:10 Speaker 02 Fifty-one.
44:11 Speaker 04 Thirty-eight.
44:13 Speaker 05 Two.
44:15 Speaker 05 It's sixty-eight thousand. Wow. Sixty-eight thousand.
44:19 Speaker 02 Wow.
44:19 Speaker 05 That's more than I would have thought.
44:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, for sure.
44:21 Speaker 04 I thought we were doing percentages. I don't think.
44:25 Speaker 04 Sorry.
44:26 Speaker 05 Well, it's 1% of the population, so you're not far off.
44:27 Speaker 02 Is it really?
44:28 Speaker 05 Yeah, they've got these raised bogs.
44:30 Speaker 02 Thank you.
44:31 Speaker 05 But there are some bog bastards, as I'm calling them.
44:34 Speaker 04 Bog bastards, okay.
44:36 Speaker 02 Is that an official term or is it?
44:38 Speaker 04 For mages.
44:39 Speaker 05 That's an A H M original, but those are people, those are people who are sneakily cutting special conservation areas of bogs. Because a lot of these bogs are now protected.
44:46 Speaker 04 From a scientific viewpoint, why would I burn peat over wood? Is it, does it burn longer?
44:50 Speaker 05 I think just there's loads of peat around.
44:52 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
44:52 Speaker 02 I think it would burn longer.
44:53 Speaker 05 It would.
44:54 Speaker 02 I think so, yeah.
44:55 Speaker 04 Right.
44:55 Speaker 05 Okay.
44:56 Speaker 02 It contains more carbon, doesn't it?
44:58 Speaker 04 Hmm.
44:58 Speaker 02 I'm pretty sure those bogs in Ireland is where you would find Tories, speaking of bog bastards.
45:04 Speaker 05 Oh, really?
45:05 Speaker 02 So Tory, I think, as we've said before, was an old sort of word for an outlaw in Ireland, especially a Roman Catholic one. They would call them Tories. And then eventually it became, I can't remember how it became a word for conservatives, but it did.
45:19 Speaker 04 Oh, is that words from?
45:20 Speaker 02 Yeah, it did originally, yeah. But yeah, that, they would live in the bogs, these outlaws, and then they would come and attack your sheep and stuff.
45:28 Speaker 05 Wow. We've got Pete in Margate.
45:31 Speaker 02 Have you?
45:31 Speaker 05 Yeah. Pete Doherty.
45:33 Speaker 04 Fluffy annoying me all the time, eh?
45:35 Speaker 05 Yeah, here we go.
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46:41 Speaker 05 Okay, it is time for our final fact of the show, and that is Andy. My fact is, when the first ever online pizza delivery was made, 100 journalists turned up to report on it. The driver got lost, it took an hour to deliver, and the pizza was long cold.
46:56 Speaker 02 Wow.
46:56 Speaker 05 So this is something that was printed in the LA Times in 1994, which I love to read.
47:03 Speaker 05 Well, only a few months before TLC released Crazy Sexy Cool. It's the 1994 podcast. Yeah. It really is.
47:09 Speaker 04 Clive Davis was the one to order the pizza to sort of try and get out of the hostage situation. Please help. He's typing.
47:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, there was this article headlined, "Online Pizza Idea Is Clever, But Only Half-Baked."
47:25 Speaker 02 Oh.
47:25 Speaker 05 Brilliant. And it was by Pizza Hut, giants of the scene.
47:28 Speaker 02 They always do stuff like that, don't they?
47:30 Speaker 05 But this was genuinely an innovation. So they launched a thing called Pizza Net. It was in Santa Cruz, and I think this was hosted at the University of California, Santa Cruz. Basically, no one had really tried, not many people had done e-commerce like this, especially not with a pizza.
47:46 Speaker 02 Well, not in 1994.
47:47 Speaker 05 This is so long ago. And you had to put in your stats, you had to put in your order. The data was then sent to Pizza Hut HQ in Kansas, quite a long way away. It was relayed via a modem to your nearest Pizza Hut branch, who would then phone you up to check that you weren't pranking them. And then eventually, after that had all been gone through, then they would start making you your pizza and deliver it to your home.
48:08 Speaker 02 Crazy.
48:09 Speaker 05 And they got 100 journalists in to report on this.
48:12 Speaker 02 I mean, how many people had the internet by then? I reckon it was about then that I went to Jodrell Bank, which is a big telescope in the north of England, and that was the only place that had the internet. Yeah, I'm just like, I've never seen the internet.
48:26 Speaker 04 Did you go online?
48:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
48:27 Speaker 04 What did you do?
48:28 Speaker 02 I searched, I was really into fantasy football at the time, so I searched for the word fantasy and got, as a 14 year old boy.
48:36 Speaker 05 Uh oh.
48:36 Speaker 02 A lot of knowledge that I didn't previously have.
48:39 Speaker 05 Results.
48:40 Speaker 03 Gosh, nice.
48:41 Speaker 02 Did you have a central bank?
48:51 Speaker 03 Anyway, yeah. It is, it is early internet, isn't it? And 94, that's when Amazon launched.
48:56 Speaker 05 Yeah.
48:57 Speaker 03 95 is when eBay launched. It's, it's way older than I realized.
49:00 Speaker 05 There was almost nothing on the internet back then. Newspapers would run articles saying, here are the best websites to go to, which I love. I think we could do with that again.
49:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:09 Speaker 05 You know, because the internet's been sort of, it's like there are now sort of only about, what, four websites now?
49:13 Speaker 04 I'm always looking for a new website. I love a new website.
49:16 Speaker 03 What do you mean?
49:17 Speaker 04 I want new, cool stuff.
49:18 Speaker 02 It used to be when we started, when I started working at QI, that you could search for carrot facts and you would get a page of someone who really liked carrots.
49:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:26 Speaker 02 Writing 20 incredible facts, really well sourced about carrots.
49:29 Speaker 04 In Comic Sans with like a sort of MySpacey background of carrots.
49:32 Speaker 02 Now you put in carrot facts and AI goes, did you know that carrots are all green? And you're like, oh, right. Are you sure? I think they're orange. Oh, yes, they are orange. I'm sorry about that.
49:43 Speaker 04 Wait, you guys are extremely smart. This is unrelated to anything, but can someone explain to me, I'm the one, the quote unquote tech person here, why can't it say I don't know?
49:53 Speaker 04 Why can't it say I don't know? And second of all, why can't it tell me where it got its knowledge?
49:56 Speaker 03 Because it's, because it's stolen from somewhere else and they don't want to reveal it? I don't know.
50:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's fair. I'm sure I can Google this. It would just be so much more reliable if it said, I don't know.
50:05 Speaker 02 Wouldn't it be great?
50:06 Speaker 04 But I don't, I'm not interested in making a better product. Never mind.
50:10 Speaker 02 That's just true of humans in general, right? So many people, if you ask them, especially people on the internet, if you ask them something, they'll just pretend they know the answer and say it. If we all learned how to say I don't know a bit more. Then wouldn't the world be a better place? I don't know. Grubhub, have you had a Grubhub?
50:27 Speaker 05 Love Grubhub.
50:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:28 Speaker 02 It's like, like delivery for Americans or something.
50:31 Speaker 05 Yeah, I don't really know.
50:32 Speaker 04 Are we over Pizza Hut? I just have one more thing to say, which is I, I had assumed that, um, hiring Gorbachev to be in one of their ads was the coolest thing they did in the 90s.
50:39 Speaker 05 Wow.
50:40 Speaker 02 Oh.
50:41 Speaker 04 Essentially, it's Gorbachev enjoying pizza at Pizza Hut and then different people at the restaurant are debating whether he's a good or a bad guy.
50:48 Speaker 02 Right.
50:48 Speaker 04 And the ending is, well, he's the one who brought Pizza Hut. So I guess like the conclusion is that you can't beat Pizza Hut, but it was more nuanced in terms of where people were standing.
50:57 Speaker 05 Wow.
50:58 Speaker 04 Uh, than you'd think.
50:58 Speaker 05 Pizza Hut in our times. That's a joke about peace in our time.
51:02 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
51:03 Speaker 05 Yeah, which was something that Gorbachev didn't say. That was never travelling.
51:07 Speaker 03 I felt us literally just moved to number two in the comedy charts just saying, I don't know. Did you guys feel that? It's like a shudder.
51:15 Speaker 05 Pizza Hut in our times.
51:20 Speaker 02 Meanwhile, at Paris in Hell, they're like, oh, did you feel that? It just felt like we lifted a little bit. Andy must have done a terrible joke.
51:32 Speaker 03 We grew, we, in my house, we grew up with a giant painting of Gorbachev on our laundry wall.
51:36 Speaker 02 Did you?
51:38 Speaker 05 Again, I'm gonna say lie.
51:42 Speaker 02 Is that true?
51:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, I, it was, we had one of him and one of Chairman Mao and.
51:47 Speaker 04 What?
51:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, so it was knockoffs of Andy Warhol's collection of pop art. And they bought it in a market somewhere, but I grew up with Gorbachev on my wall, wondering, who is this guy? Is he good or bad? You know, and.
52:00 Speaker 05 Interesting.
52:01 Speaker 03 Didn't know the pizza.
52:02 Speaker 05 We grew up.
52:02 Speaker 03 Thing had resolved.
52:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, all you had to do was watch the ad.
52:05 Speaker 05 We grew up with a series of Russian leader themed Matryoshka in my house.
52:09 Speaker 02 Ah, did you?
52:10 Speaker 05 Yeah, that, you know, the Russian dolls, the one on the outside was the biggest one.
52:13 Speaker 04 I have a name.
52:17 Speaker 05 Lovely. And we're back to number one. Feels good.
52:22 Speaker 02 Who was the big one? Was it Stalin on the outside?
52:24 Speaker 05 No, the big one was the newest one, who was Yeltsin at the time. And then it was going all the way back to Lenin, I think.
52:31 Speaker 02 Grubhub is a food delivery system online, right? It was started by a guy called Colin Wallace and he was a school child and he wanted to get a sandwich to his classroom without the teacher noticing. And so he created a computer program which took a text from his phone, sent it to a fax which was delivered to a restaurant and then they would send the sandwich to the, to the classroom.
52:58 Speaker 05 Right. Amazing.
52:59 Speaker 04 That's genius.
53:01 Speaker 02 And then eventually sort of turned that into a much bigger thing and then got bought out by some squillionaires. But yeah.
53:07 Speaker 05 The origin stories.
53:08 Speaker 04 I don't know if you guys do business ideas here.
53:12 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
53:14 Speaker 05 We do, we do.
53:15 Speaker 02 None of them has taken off yet.
53:18 Speaker 04 Okay. But like, you know how there's like the founder movie, right? Which is like for the McDonald's founder movie, like that, that type of thing. Imagine with that, it would be like a Disney Channel original founder movie about like a guy at school.
53:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
53:30 Speaker 05 Oh, that's a cute idea.
53:31 Speaker 04 Wouldn't that be so cute?
53:32 Speaker 05 So you've come up with an idea for a cultural thing?
53:35 Speaker 04 Yes.
53:35 Speaker 05 A movie pitch. Don't worry, we do those too.
53:37 Speaker 04 Okay, sorry. I take it back. It wasn't a business idea. It was a business idea for us to make money off this movie.
53:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's a great, yeah. That's really good.
53:43 Speaker 04 Like a kid's founder movie, like capitalism for kids.
53:46 Speaker 05 So what's it called?
53:48 Speaker 02 Grubhub is the name.
53:49 Speaker 04 Something about sandwich, something about fax.
53:53 Speaker 05 We can do this.
53:54 Speaker 04 We can definitely do this. Come on, guys. Number one.
53:57 Speaker 04 This is why we're number one.
54:01 Speaker 04 Breadie Steady Go?
54:03 Speaker 05 Breadie Steady Go.
54:04 Speaker 04 No.
54:05 Speaker 05 For a kids film?
54:06 Speaker 04 It's like recess. Yeah, it's gotta be like something about recess, school, a detention, but with bread in it.
54:14 Speaker 05 Just put the word bread into the word detention. Yeah. De-Bred-shen. The new number one founder movie.
54:25 Speaker 05 It's good to have something to be asked about in interviews on the press round. So how do we say the name of this? How's it pronounced? De-Bred-shen.
54:35 Speaker 02 Pun, you see? It's gonna be huge in Japan.
54:44 Speaker 05 Oh dear. Yeah. Okay.
54:47 Speaker 03 I'm so sorry.
54:48 Speaker 05 That might be the one that takes off. Yeah, last, last week's Google for smells did not go anywhere. So we're up for new business ideas. Can I tell you guys about Jane Snowball?
55:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, absolutely.
55:01 Speaker 05 Okay, she was a 72 year old British woman and she did the first ever online grocery order. In what year?
55:08 Speaker 02 1951.
55:11 Speaker 05 1938. And Olga, you've got a real chance to score the triple here.
55:17 Speaker 04 Okay, I'm going 1996.
55:19 Speaker 05 1996, it's 1984. This is insane.
55:22 Speaker 02 But you said she was in her 70s?
55:24 Speaker 05 Yes.
55:25 Speaker 02 Wow.
55:25 Speaker 05 She was simply the end user of the product. She had very little to do with the development. I'm afraid.
55:32 Speaker 02 But I, I still think in your 70s at that time.
55:36 Speaker 05 That's true.
55:36 Speaker 02 It's gonna be tough to use new technology.
55:38 Speaker 05 Absolutely.
55:39 Speaker 02 No offence to anyone in their 70s, but like it did become more difficult as you get older.
55:43 Speaker 05 But she's 72, this is 1984. This is a long time ago. Well, hang on, that's when I was born. It's not that long. It's a long, imagine that. No one has the internet in their homes. Yeah. You know, and basically.
55:54 Speaker 04 I just want you to know the entire time you're speaking, I'm trying to put the word sub into CEO.
56:02 Speaker 02 Is it fitting?
56:07 Speaker 04 Sorry.
56:07 Speaker 05 Keep working on it, Olga.
56:09 Speaker 04 If I look distracted.
56:11 Speaker 05 I'll tell these guys. But basically she lived in Gateshead, she had bad hips, she couldn't get to the shops. And there was this thing being run by Gateshead Council called the Gateshead Shopping Experiment. And this developer, Michael Aldrich, set up a thing where she could use her TV to get access to every, a huge number of shops.
56:30 Speaker 04 Like through teletext or something?
56:32 Speaker 05 Kind of, I'm, I'm slightly struggling with how exactly it worked because I, I don't think she was pressing her screen. She shouldn't have been anyway, but it was, it allowed her to go through every product that the shops had and, and, and order via her telly. It was unbelievably advanced at the time.
56:46 Speaker 04 Do we not have a name for the boy?
56:48 Speaker 02 For what?
56:48 Speaker 05 The boy in the film.
56:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, he was called Colin Wallace.
56:53 Speaker 02 Greg Wallace.
56:54 Speaker 04 It'd be like Wallace and Gromit, but the Gromit has to be bread.
56:57 Speaker 02 Wallace and Grubhub.
57:00 Speaker 05 Wallace and grain, grainy bread. Nope, keep going. Grain Hill? Grain Hill? Because it's Grange Hill. Is good. Is actually good. School based thing.
57:10 Speaker 04 Can we, we can move on?
57:11 Speaker 05 No, no, no.
57:12 Speaker 04 So sorry.
57:13 Speaker 05 We'll get it eventually, I'll go. We would usually move on, but it's such a good idea.
57:18 Speaker 05 Podcast at QI dot com. Send in your titles for the bread based.
57:24 Speaker 04 Disney Channel original movie.
57:25 Speaker 05 What's it about? Oh, the Grubhub boy.
57:27 Speaker 04 Teen CEO.
57:28 Speaker 05 Teen CEO of Grubhub.
57:29 Speaker 04 Inventor, yes.
57:30 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shall we wrap up soon? Yeah. All right, here's a quiz. What was the first thing sold securely on the internet? It's also 1994. Yeah. It's about 10 days before the pizza idea was launched.
57:42 Speaker 02 First thing ever sold on eBay was a broken laser pointer.
57:45 Speaker 05 Very good.
57:46 Speaker 02 I know that. But this was before that, right?
57:48 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's the first time anyone bought anything that was properly with secure data. So previously people had used ARPANET to buy and sell weed, things like that. But that was just arranging a meeting place. That's not properly an online transaction.
58:01 Speaker 02 Was it an Oasis album, 1994?
58:03 Speaker 05 It's an, it's an album.
58:05 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
58:07 Speaker 04 It's not TLC's Crazy Sexy Cool, is it?
58:09 Speaker 05 It's not.
58:09 Speaker 02 Is it someone from the 90s?
58:12 Speaker 05 I'd say so. He's still alive. I know the answer to this, so I'm bowing out of the corner.
58:15 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
58:16 Speaker 05 Thank you, Dave. It's very honest.
58:17 Speaker 04 Bryan Adams?
58:18 Speaker 05 Oh, good guess.
58:19 Speaker 02 What's a good answer?
58:20 Speaker 05 Good guess.
58:21 Speaker 04 I'm just transporting into 94.
58:22 Speaker 05 Not bad. Who else is?
58:25 Speaker 02 Meatloaf.
58:27 Speaker 05 British?
58:30 Speaker 05 There's no way of saying it without you immediately.
58:31 Speaker 02 Elton John.
58:32 Speaker 05 He likes having sex for a really long time.
58:34 Speaker 04 Rod Stewart?
58:38 Speaker 05 With his wife, Trudy Styler.
58:40 Speaker 02 Yeah. Does it stink?
58:41 Speaker 05 It stink. It was Sting's album, Ten Summoner's Tales.
58:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
58:45 Speaker 05 And it was, um, uh, it was a guy called Phil Brandenberger.
58:50 Speaker 03 Of Philadelphia. This weirdly, this fact unites all of our facts today. Because it was, it was bought in 1994. Yeah. That's TLC. Yeah. It was the first major hit he had since his previous hit, which was called Russians. Ah. Very nice. And the title of the album, what was it, Andy? Ten Summoner's Tales. It's a pun. Is it a pun? It's a pun. His surname is Sumner, isn't it? His surname is Sumner, and it is a pun on the Canterbury Tales, of which there was a character called Sumner. So it's got a pun, it's got Russia, and it's got 1994, the release of TLC. Dan, end the show now, that's amazing. That's like, that's a bravura, that's a now you see me three level.
59:29 Speaker 04 Yeah. And that's a compliment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
59:40 Speaker 03 Okay, that's it. That is all of our facts. Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to get in contact with any of us about the things that we have said over the course of this podcast, we can all be found on our social media accounts. I'm on at Shreiberland on Instagram. James? Come find me on TikTok, NosiceFingersJamesHarkin. Andy? Instagram at AndrewHunterM. Yep, and Olga?
59:59 Speaker 04 Everywhere at Colga300.
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1:00:04 Speaker 04 Yes, I'm touring my new show, Fat Tom Cruise, all around the world.
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1:00:21 Speaker 04 Guys, dough. Dough is money.
1:00:23 Speaker 03 Oh, yes.
1:00:24 Speaker 04 But dough is bread.
1:00:25 Speaker 03 Yes. Doughboy.
1:00:26 Speaker 04 Done! Oh, my God, whoa.
1:00:28 Speaker 03 Doughboy.
1:00:29 Speaker 04 Oh, my God, that's so good. Sorry. Oh, my God, last second.
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