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0:45 Speaker 03 Okay, let's dive straight in. We want to get a handle on the job market landscape, thinking particularly about the U.S. and Australia right now, sort of mid 2025.
0:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, absolutely. And the picture, well, it's often described as tight but optimistic. Inflation has definitely cooled off a bit, which helps.
1:03 Speaker 03 Right, that's the optimistic part.
1:05 Speaker 04 Exactly. But the high interest rates, there's still a really big factor hanging over everything.
1:11 Speaker 03 And that directly impacts companies, doesn't it? We're hearing profitability is the name of the game now, maybe more than just pure growth.
1:18 Speaker 04 That's spot on. With borrowing costs high, companies are laser focused on the bottom line. It means they have to prioritize profit, sometimes, you know, over just expanding for expansion's sake.
1:30 Speaker 03 Okay, so for our listeners, maybe job seekers out there, what does that profitability focus feel like when they're applying for roles?
1:36 Speaker 04 It translates into caution. Hiring processes might feel slower, more deliberate. Companies are definitely more selective, maybe a bit risk averse.
1:44 Speaker 03 Risk averse? How so? Like, only looking for the perfect unicorn candidate?
1:48 Speaker 04 Sort of, yeah. They're really scrutinizing whether a candidate is immediate, obvious fit, who can deliver value quickly. There's less room for maybe taking a chance on potential alone.
2:00 Speaker 03 And it seems like this is hitting experienced professionals particularly hard, mid managers, specialists, even execs. Why them specifically?
2:08 Speaker 04 Well, think about it. When Rapid growth isn't the primary goal. You see fewer new senior roles being created. You know, those heads of new departments, leaders for brand new functions or massive speculative projects.
2:21 Speaker 03 Ah, okay, so the opportunities at that level just aren't popping up as frequently.
2:25 Speaker 04 Precisely. So if you're listening and you've got years of experience, but you're facing radio silence on applications, this backdrop is likely a big part of the reason why.
2:33 Speaker 03 And it's not just the candidates feeling it, right? Recruiters are facing headwinds too.
2:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, definitely. We're hearing that recruiters are struggling with getting final approvals, uh, seeing roles suddenly put on pause or even canceled. It's tough across the board.
2:46 Speaker 03 But importantly, it's not a complete freeze. There are areas still hiring quite actively. Where should people be looking?
2:54 Speaker 04 Absolutely. One interesting area is the public sector. Governments are often driving big transformation and reform programs.
3:01 Speaker 03 And those skills, like strategy and managing change, are transferable from the corporate world.
3:07 Speaker 04 Hugely transferable.
3:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:08 Speaker 04 It's a really good fit for experienced professionals. Even if it's not the first place they might think to look, it requires that kind of seasoned perspective.
3:16 Speaker 03 That's a great practical tip. What else is looking active?
3:19 Speaker 04 Well, the whole green energy and sustainability space is still strong. Infrastructure projects linked to that too. That seems to have long-term momentum.
3:27 Speaker 03 Makes sense, despite any political shifts, maybe.
3:30 Speaker 04 Right. And then you've got the perennials. Technology and AI are obviously huge drivers across industries. Plus, healthcare, med tech, health services always essential.
3:41 Speaker 03 Okay.
3:41 Speaker 04 Oh, and professional services and education too. They seem to be holding steady.
3:45 Speaker 03 So the takeaway is while the overall market might feel tight, there are definitely specific sectors with significant opportunities if you know where to focus.
3:54 Speaker 04 Exactly. It requires a bit more targeted searching perhaps.
3:57 Speaker 03 Now, let's talk about something you touched on, this feeling some experience people have of being overlooked despite their value. Our sources call it the paradox of experience. Can you unpack that a bit?
4:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's that really frustrating situation where you know you're highly capable, you have fantastic track record, years of value delivered. But you're just not getting the traction you expect in your job search. The interviews aren't landing.
4:22 Speaker 03 And a big part of this, apparently, is a skill that often isn't formally taught. How to actually sell yourself effectively in the market today. It's different from just being good at your job.
4:33 Speaker 04 Absolutely. You could be, you know, a world-class engineer or marketer, but articulating that value on paper, on LinkedIn, in an interview, in a way that cuts through the noise, that's a whole different skill set.
4:45 Speaker 03 Something they don't teach you, even in a master's program, sometimes?
4:49 Speaker 04 Rarely. And this lack of, let's call it, job search savvy, can lead to a really common mistake.
4:55 Speaker 03 Which is?
4:56 Speaker 04 Undervaluing yourself, because roles seem scarce. Experienced people sometimes start applying for positions they're clearly overqualified for.
5:03 Speaker 03 Ah, the better something-than-nothing approach. But that can backfire, can't it?
5:07 Speaker 04 Definitely. For the candidate, it often leads to frustration, maybe feeling underutilized, loss of status or pay. And for the employer, managing someone who's overqualified and potentially bored or looking to leave soon, that's tricky, too.
5:22 Speaker 03 So the message here is, if you're experienced and struggling, don't immediately assume it's you or your qualifications. It might be the technical side of your job search.
5:31 Speaker 04 Exactly. It often comes down to the practical execution.
5:35 Speaker 03 And our sources really hammer home two specific technical areas. First, the quality of the application itself, resume cover letter.
5:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, bluntly put, sometimes the application materials just aren't good enough. They don't showcase the value properly.
5:47 Speaker 03 And the second area?
5:49 Speaker 04 LinkedIn. Your profile needs to be sharp, up to date, and actively reflecting your expertise and career goals.
5:54 Speaker 03 Right, so these are things people can control and fix. They might be the actual barrier, not your underlying experience.
6:01 Speaker 04 Precisely. These technical aspects are often the gatekeepers to getting that first interview, regardless of how brilliant you actually are. They are fixable problems.
6:10 Speaker 03 Okay, another interesting point that came up was about assumptions. How we sometimes assume we won't fit into a certain company culture or team.
6:19 Speaker 04 Hmm, yeah. We can easily talk ourselves out of applying for something because we build up this idea in our head, "Oh, they're probably all young tech bros," or, "That place looks too corporate and stuffy for me."
6:29 Speaker 03 Without actually knowing if it's true.
6:31 Speaker 04 Exactly. We self-select out based on assumptions.
6:34 Speaker 03 So the advice is to flip that. Use the application, and especially the interview process, to find out what the culture is like.
6:41 Speaker 04 Yes. Treat the interview as a two-way street. It's your chance to suss them out just as much as they're sussing you out. Don't prejudge from the outside.
6:50 Speaker 03 There was a story about a foundation CEO, wasn't there? Saying they were surprised how few people applied for really good roles.
6:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, the perception was that these roles were too hard to get, or maybe required connections they didn't have. People assumed intense competition and just didn't bother applying.
7:06 Speaker 03 Which ironically made the competition less intense for those who did apply.
7:10 Speaker 04 Right, and it makes you wonder. Maybe experienced professionals, because they have seen more, might actually make more assumptions, sometimes negative ones, than younger candidates who might be a bit more, I don't know, naive or optimistic.
7:24 Speaker 03 That's an interesting thought. It reminds me of Greg Savage's point about recruiters making assumptions too. Candidates do it just as much.
7:30 Speaker 04 We all do it. So the key takeaway is, test your hypotheses, don't assume you know. Apply, talk to people, go through the process. You might be genuinely surprised.
7:40 Speaker 03 Okay, let's pivot to some really proactive strategies for 2025. The first one is about your narrative, how you tell your professional story.
7:48 Speaker 04 This is crucial. It's about a mindset shift. Stop feeling like you constantly need to prove you're up to date or relevant.
7:54 Speaker 03 And start acting like you are.
7:56 Speaker 04 Yes. Demonstrate it. Your LinkedIn profile shouldn't just be a list of past jobs. It should showcase your current thinking, your strategic capability, what you're engaged with now.
8:07 Speaker 03 And for people maybe conscious of their age, or perhaps a gap in certain types of experience, the advice is to reframe that perceived disadvantage.
8:16 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Don't see it as a liability. Frame it as a competitive advantage.
8:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:20 Speaker 04 This has to start internally, though. You have to believe it first.
8:23 Speaker 03 Can you give an example? How do you frame age positively?
8:27 Speaker 04 Instead of worrying about being seen as old school, you could say something like, "My experience includes leading teams through major downturns like the GFC and the pandemic. I bring calm, clarity, and decisive action when things get tough."
8:40 Speaker 03 Uh, turning experience into wisdom and stability.
8:44 Speaker 04 Exactly. Or if you have international experience that maybe feels less relevant now, frame it as bringing a unique global perspective. Understanding diverse markets, that's a huge asset for many. Companies. Find the positive angle for whatever you perceive is a potential negative.
8:58 Speaker 03 Okay, narrative is one thing. What about adjusting the target, the types of roles you go for?
9:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, the advice here is to broaden your definition of an ideal role. Don't just fixate on the traditional, permanent, full-time employee position.
9:11 Speaker 03 What are the alternatives?
9:12 Speaker 04 Consider interim executive roles, management contracts, project-based consulting. These can be really rewarding, often well-paid, and can build a fantastic portfolio career.
9:24 Speaker 03 And are there specific types of roles where that kind of leadership maturity is particularly in demand right now?
9:30 Speaker 04 Definitely. Roles focused on transformation, leading significant change, complex stakeholder engagement, those really benefit from seasoned leadership.
9:39 Speaker 03 Okay.
9:39 Speaker 04 Also, governance, compliance, risk management, especially with the rise of ESG factors, people with finance or legal backgrounds and deep experience are needed, and high-level strategy roles, of course.
9:51 Speaker 03 So it's about knowing your leadership strengths and being able to articulate them confidently for those kinds of opportunities.
9:56 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Understand your style, have examples ready, and own that experience.
10:00 Speaker 03 Right, let's talk practicalities now, making it easy for recruiters and, crucially, networking. What's key when dealing with recruiters?
10:08 Speaker 04 responsiveness is huge. If a recruiter contacts you about a potential fit, get back to them quickly, even if it's just to say, "You need a day to think." There's an anecdote about someone missing out because they didn't reply for a day or two. Things move fast.
10:23 Speaker 03 Okay, speed matters. And what about the tools? Resume, LinkedIn.
10:26 Speaker 04 Optimize them. Make them easy to read, keep them concise, use current market language for your titles. This is especially important if you've moved countries, and titles mean different things.
10:37 Speaker 03 Right, tailor the language.
10:38 Speaker 04 And keywords. Make sure you're including terms relevant to the roles you're targeting, so you get picked up by applicant tracking systems, the ATS. Keep formatting simple, for the same reason.
10:49 Speaker 03 Good technical tips. Now, networking. Seems more important than ever.
10:53 Speaker 04 It's absolutely critical. Don't go silent, especially if you've been made redundant or are actively looking. Reach out to your network before you desperately need help.
11:02 Speaker 03 How should people approach that? Just ask for jobs?
11:04 Speaker 04 No, not necessarily. Start by reconnecting. Let potential referees know you might need them soon. Check in with former colleagues or managers for a virtual coffee. Just stay on people's radar.
11:14 Speaker 03 Because a lot of opportunities get filled informally.
11:17 Speaker 04 So many. Roles get discussed internally, people get asked for recommendations, there are taps on the shoulder long before a formal ad might appear. Referrals and introductions are incredibly powerful.
11:29 Speaker 03 There was a great personal story illustrating this, wasn't there? About an unexpected opportunity during the pandemic.
11:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, an example where maintaining a connection with someone over years, just occasional check-ins, led directly to a significant role with Astrad that wasn't advertised. It came about purely through that existing relationship.
11:47 Speaker 03 It really shows networking isn't just about asking for favors when you're desperate. It's about building and maintaining relationships over time.
11:54 Speaker 04 Exactly. It's about staying top of mind, sharing insights, being helpful yourself. Then, when opportunities arise, people think of you.
12:01 Speaker 03 Okay, last key area. Maintaining momentum and mindset. Job searching is hard work, especially with rejections.
12:09 Speaker 04 It really is. It takes discipline. You need a strong mindset and often a good support system, whether that's family, friends, or maybe even a coach.
12:18 Speaker 03 And the advice is not to just hide away applying online all day.
12:22 Speaker 04 Right. While applications are necessary, solely relying on online portals isn't enough. You need that networking, those conversations, that interaction.
12:31 Speaker 03 But the flip side is also true, isn't it? Just having coffees without a clear personal brand and solid documents won't cut it either.
12:38 Speaker 04 Exactly. You can't just network your way into a role if your resume is weak or your LinkedIn profile is bare. It's holistic. The applications, the networking, the personal branding, it all needs to work together.
12:50 Speaker 03 So bringing it all together, what's the final message for experienced professionals navigating this 2025 market?
12:57 Speaker 04 I think the most powerful message is, you are not outdated, you are under marketed. You have immense value, insights, connections, achievements, wisdom. Don't forget that.
13:05 Speaker 03 It's about leveraging those assets effectively.
13:07 Speaker 04 Yes. Careers are cyclical. This isn't starting from scratch. Tap into that network you've built over years. Understand your unique strengths and how they apply now.
13:17 Speaker 03 Acknowledge the market is different, but you have what it takes.
13:20 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Often the barriers are technical. The resume, the LinkedIn profile, the interview technique or tactical, like not targeting the right sectors or roles or not networking effectively. These are fixable issues.
13:36 Speaker 03 And perhaps challenge some internal mindset gremlins. Thoughts of retirement, self doubt.
13:41 Speaker 04 Definitely. Sometimes those feelings creep in, making you think maybe it is time to step back. But often that's driven by the job search frustration, not the reality of your capability or desire to contribute.
13:51 Speaker 03 So the final thought is really practical. Focus on the fixable, technical stuff and get out there and actively engage your network.
13:57 Speaker 04 That's the core of it. Take control of what you can control, leverage your strengths and tackle this market strategically.
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