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0:41 Speaker 03 Welcome back everyone to the deep dive. This time, we're going to be diving into a topic that I think a lot of people have probably encountered at some point in their careers. Counteroffers.
0:51 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
0:52 Speaker 03 Right? You're thinking about leaving your job. Maybe you've even gone so far as to accept another offer and suddenly your current company is like, wait, no, don't go. We love you. Here's more money. Here's a promotion. Stay. It's tempting, right?
1:07 Speaker 04 It is. It's very tempting.
1:09 Speaker 03 So we've been doing some digging, talking to career experts, looking at the data, trying to figure out, what's the best way to navigate these situations? Because it can be tricky.
1:18 Speaker 04 It can be.
1:19 Speaker 03 It can be really tricky. So what are we seeing in terms of like, the overall trends? I mean...
1:25 Speaker 04 Well, the statistics on this are pretty wild. A lot of people who accept counteroffers don't actually end up staying long term.
1:30 Speaker 03 Really?
1:32 Speaker 04 Yeah. Studies show that something like 80% of those who accept a counteroffer end up leaving the company within six months.
1:39 Speaker 03 Oh, wow.
1:40 Speaker 04 And then within a year.
1:41 Speaker 03 Oh, gosh.
1:42 Speaker 04 That number jumps to 93%.
1:43 Speaker 03 That is wild. That's a huge red flag. So it seems like on the surface, a counteroffer seems like a win-win.
1:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:52 Speaker 03 Right. I mean, you're getting more money, maybe a promotion. You don't have to deal with the hassle of, you know, starting at a new company, but clearly something else is going on. So what's driving that trend? Why are so many people leaving even after they get?
2:06 Speaker 04 Right. Well, you have to think about it from the company's perspective for a second. Often, a counteroffer is a knee-jerk reaction to losing a valuable employee. It's like, they're caught off-guard, they haven't necessarily been paying attention to how you're feeling, what your needs are, and suddenly they're faced with the prospect of you walking out the door. And they're like, wait. What can we do to stop this?
2:29 Speaker 03 So it's like a throw money at the problem kind of thing?
2:32 Speaker 04 Yeah, sometimes it can feel that way.
2:34 Speaker 03 And I guess it makes you wonder, like, if they valued you so much, why didn't they show it before you had one foot out the door?
2:43 Speaker 04 That's the question, isn't it?
2:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:44 Speaker 04 And it leads to this whole other layer.
2:47 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:47 Speaker 04 The psychology of counteroffers.
2:49 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:50 Speaker 04 Because sometimes they can be a bit manipulative.
2:53 Speaker 03 Oh, thirsty, okay.
2:54 Speaker 04 Like, they might dangle a promotion.
2:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:56 Speaker 04 Let's be honest, they were probably gonna give you anyway.
2:58 Speaker 03 Right.
2:59 Speaker 04 Just not right this second.
3:00 Speaker 03 So they're kind of like speeding up their timeline.
3:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:03 Speaker 03 Just enough to make you question your decision.
3:05 Speaker 04 Exactly. Or they might appeal to, you know, your loyalty to the company, your history there, trying to make you feel like you're obligated to stay because of all that you've built together. But it's important, like you said, to really take a step back from the emotions of it and just think, okay, is this really a win for me?
3:24 Speaker 03 Or am I settling for something that's not actually what I want?
3:28 Speaker 04 Just because it's comfortable, just because it's familiar.
3:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:31 Speaker 04 You know?
3:31 Speaker 03 It's about looking beyond the surface, right? Getting to the heart of what you really want in your career and your life.
3:39 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Now, I don't want to say that all counteroffers are bad. There are definitely some situations where accepting one might actually work out in your favor.
3:49 Speaker 03 Okay, let's hear about those. When might it actually make sense to say yes to a counteroffer?
3:56 Speaker 04 Well, imagine this. You weren't even really looking for a new job.
4:00 Speaker 03 Okay.
4:00 Speaker 04 But this amazing opportunity just kind of fell into your lap.
4:03 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
4:04 Speaker 04 And your current company, you know, they get wind of it.
4:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:08 Speaker 04 And they come to you and they're like,
4:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:09 Speaker 04 "Look, we know you might be tempted, and we want to make sure that..."
4:13 Speaker 03 "You stay."
4:13 Speaker 04 "...that you're happy. So here are some things we're willing to do."
4:16 Speaker 03 Oh, so they're being proactive?
4:17 Speaker 04 Exactly.
4:18 Speaker 03 They're not just reacting to your potential departure.
4:21 Speaker 04 Right.
4:22 Speaker 03 They're actually recognizing your value.
4:24 Speaker 04 Right. And they're showing it.
4:26 Speaker 03 Before you have to spell it out for them.
4:28 Speaker 04 Exactly.
4:28 Speaker 03 Okay, so that's one scenario where it might make sense. What else?
4:32 Speaker 04 Another one would be if they offer you a significant promotion. And I don't just mean like a lateral move with a slightly fancier title and a little bit more money. This needs to be a real step up.
4:43 Speaker 03 Okay.
4:43 Speaker 04 A change in responsibilities, reporting structure, something that actually aligns with your
4:48 Speaker 03 Right.
4:48 Speaker 04 long-term career goals.
4:49 Speaker 03 So it's like a genuine investment in your growth and development at the company? Not just a reaction to you potentially leaving?
4:56 Speaker 04 Exactly. It should be a clear sign that they see you as a valuable asset.
5:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:02 Speaker 04 And they want to invest in your future with them.
5:05 Speaker 03 If they're truly serious about keeping you, they need to back it up with action.
5:09 Speaker 04 Yes.
5:10 Speaker 03 Not just words. Okay, so we've got proactive appreciation and significant promotion.
5:18 Speaker 03 Are there any other situations where accepting a counter offer might be a good move?
5:24 Speaker 04 One more I can think of. Let's say they offer you a leadership role.
5:27 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:28 Speaker 04 In some big, long-term initiative. They're making you indispensable
5:32 Speaker 03 Right.
5:33 Speaker 04 to their future success.
5:34 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:34 Speaker 04 They're saying, "Look, we can't do this without you."
5:36 Speaker 03 "You're that important to us."
5:38 Speaker 04 "You're a key to our vision."
5:39 Speaker 03 That's pretty compelling. So in those cases, it sounds like the counter offer is more than just a reaction. It's a genuine recognition of your value and a commitment to your future
5:51 Speaker 04 Yes.
5:51 Speaker 03 at the company.
5:52 Speaker 04 And a sign that they see you as a partner
5:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:54 Speaker 04 in their success.
5:55 Speaker 03 But even in those seemingly ideal scenarios
5:58 Speaker 04 Right.
5:59 Speaker 03 there are still some potential risks
6:01 Speaker 04 Oh, absolutely.
6:01 Speaker 03 to be aware of.
6:02 Speaker 04 Definitely.
6:03 Speaker 03 Right. So let's talk about those. What are some things listeners should keep in mind
6:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:08 Speaker 03 before they say yes to a counter offer? What are the potential downsides?
6:12 Speaker 04 Well, one of the biggest risks is damage to your reputation
6:16 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:16 Speaker 04 within the company. Even if you end up staying, you know, you've signaled that you were willing to leave.
6:22 Speaker 03 Right, so they might see you as a flight risk.
6:25 Speaker 04 Exactly.
6:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:26 Speaker 04 And that can have consequences down the road.
6:28 Speaker 03 How so?
6:29 Speaker 04 Well, for one thing, it could impact future promotion opportunities.
6:33 Speaker 03 Oh.
6:34 Speaker 04 Some employers might think, well, they were almost out the door once. What's to stop them from doing it again?
6:40 Speaker 03 Can we really trust them?
6:41 Speaker 04 To be fully committed.
6:42 Speaker 03 Right, right.
6:43 Speaker 04 And that lack of trust can be hard to overcome. You might find yourself excluded from key projects.
6:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:50 Speaker 04 Passed over for leadership roles.
6:52 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:53 Speaker 04 Simply because they're not sure if you're gonna stick around.
6:56 Speaker 03 So even if you get a raise and a new title.
6:58 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
6:59 Speaker 03 The underlying dynamics might have shifted in a way.
7:01 Speaker 04 Exactly, that's hard to repair.
7:03 Speaker 03 And then there's the financial risk. Let's say the company hits a rough patch.
7:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:08 Speaker 03 They need to make some cutbacks.
7:10 Speaker 04 Hmm.
7:11 Speaker 03 Who do you think is gonna be at the top of the list for layoffs?
7:14 Speaker 04 The person who already tried to leave once and is now making more money.
7:17 Speaker 03 It's a harsh reality.
7:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:19 Speaker 03 But it's something to consider.
7:21 Speaker 04 It's like, accepting a counteroffer puts a target on your back.
7:24 Speaker 03 In a way, yeah. But, let's not forget why a lot of these counteroffer situations happen in the first place.
7:30 Speaker 04 Okay.
7:31 Speaker 03 It's often because the employee is feeling undervalued. They start looking around.
7:36 Speaker 04 Hmm, and they realize, hey, I'm worth more than they're giving me.
7:40 Speaker 03 It's like they've been playing a game without knowing the rules, and then suddenly, they discover a whole new playbook.
7:46 Speaker 04 They see what's possible and it changes their perspective.
7:48 Speaker 03 Once you have that knowledge, it's hard to just ignore it.
7:51 Speaker 04 Absolutely. That awareness can be really empowering.
7:54 Speaker 03 Okay.
7:54 Speaker 04 But it can also create tension.
7:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:57 Speaker 04 In your current role. Even if you stay, there's that lingering doubt.
8:00 Speaker 03 Right.
8:01 Speaker 04 That loss of trust.
8:02 Speaker 03 So how do you navigate that? You know, you've tested the waters, you know your worth, but you're also weighing the risks of staying. What's the best way to approach that decision?
8:13 Speaker 04 I think it's helpful to go back to those statistics we talked about earlier.
8:16 Speaker 03 Okay.
8:17 Speaker 04 Remember, eighty percent of people who accept counteroffers end up leaving within six months. Why is that?
8:26 Speaker 03 Because the underlying issues that led them to look for another job in the first place haven't really been addressed.
8:32 Speaker 04 Exactly.
8:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:33 Speaker 04 Maybe it's a toxic boss, a stifling company culture.
8:36 Speaker 03 Right.
8:36 Speaker 04 Lack of growth opportunities. Those things don't usually magically change just because you got a raise.
8:42 Speaker 03 It's like putting a Band-Aid on a broken bone, right?
8:44 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
8:46 Speaker 03 You're covering up the problem, but you're not actually fixing it.
8:49 Speaker 04 And you know, another interesting thing is that research shows that money isn't always the main motivator for people leaving their jobs.
8:56 Speaker 03 So it's not all about chasing the bigger paycheck?
9:00 Speaker 04 Not necessarily. It's often a combination of factors.
9:03 Speaker 03 Like what?
9:04 Speaker 04 Work-life balance, you know? Challenging work, feeling valued, having a supportive environment. Opportunities for growth and development.
9:13 Speaker 03 So if money isn't always the driving force, what should people be focusing on when they're considering a counter offer?
9:20 Speaker 04 Well, they need to ask themselves some tough questions like, what will actually change if I stay?
9:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:26 Speaker 04 Will my boss suddenly become a supportive mentor?
9:28 Speaker 03 Right.
9:29 Speaker 04 Will the company culture magically transform into something more positive and inclusive?
9:35 Speaker 03 Because if the answer is no, then that counter offer starts to lose its appeal.
9:39 Speaker 04 Exactly.
9:40 Speaker 03 And you also have to remember, you now know your worth.
9:43 Speaker 04 Right.
9:44 Speaker 03 In the job market. You've seen what other companies are willing to offer. So the question is, will your current employer
9:51 Speaker 04 Right.
9:51 Speaker 03 recognize and respect that
9:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:53 Speaker 03 going forward? Or will they just revert to their old ways once the dust settles?
9:57 Speaker 04 That's a gamble, that's for sure.
9:59 Speaker 03 And even if they match or exceed the other offer, it's not just about the numbers, right?
10:05 Speaker 04 Absolutely. It's about feeling valued, respected, empowered to grow in your career. And if you don't have that foundation.
10:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:14 Speaker 04 Even the most generous counter offer might not be enough.
10:17 Speaker 03 It's like staying in a relationship that's no longer working just because they promised to do the dishes more often.
10:22 Speaker 04 That's a great analogy.
10:23 Speaker 03 It might be a temporary fix, but it doesn't address the deeper issues.
10:27 Speaker 04 Exactly. And let's not forget the potential impact on your professional reputation.
10:32 Speaker 03 Right.
10:33 Speaker 04 Accepting a counter offer can sometimes make you look like a bit of a flight risk.
10:38 Speaker 03 Okay, so how does that play out?
10:39 Speaker 04 Well, once you've signaled your intention to leave.
10:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:43 Speaker 04 Some employers might question your loyalty, your commitment, even if you end up staying.
10:49 Speaker 03 So future promotion opportunities could be affected.
10:52 Speaker 04 It's possible.
10:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:54 Speaker 04 Some companies might hesitate to give you more responsibility.
10:57 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:57 Speaker 04 Or trust you with important projects.
11:00 Speaker 03 So it's like they're thinking, well, they were almost out the door.
11:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:03 Speaker 03 What's to stop them from doing it again?
11:05 Speaker 04 Exactly.
11:06 Speaker 03 That's gonna be frustrating, especially if you genuinely wanted to stay, but just felt undervalued before the counter offer came along.
11:14 Speaker 04 It can be a tough situation to navigate.
11:16 Speaker 03 And then there's the added risk that if the company needs to make cutbacks.
11:20 Speaker 04 Right.
11:21 Speaker 03 You might be seen as more expendable.
11:23 Speaker 04 Exactly.
11:23 Speaker 03 Because you already tried to leave once.
11:24 Speaker 04 It's almost like you're punished for knowing your worth.
11:27 Speaker 03 So even if you manage to negotiate a great counter offer.
11:30 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
11:31 Speaker 03 There's still this risk.
11:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:32 Speaker 03 That it might not lead to the long-term satisfaction you're seeking.
11:36 Speaker 04 Exactly. You have to weigh the short-term gains against the potential long-term consequences.
11:42 Speaker 03 Okay, so we've talked about all the reasons why accepting a counter offer can be risky. But let's flip the script for a moment. When might it actually make sense?
11:53 Speaker 04 Okay.
11:54 Speaker 03 To consider staying? When could a counter offer actually be a good thing?
11:58 Speaker 04 Well, as we touched upon earlier, there are a few specific scenarios.
12:02 Speaker 03 Okay.
12:02 Speaker 04 Where accepting a counter offer could be a viable option.
12:06 Speaker 03 Let's hear them.
12:07 Speaker 04 First, remember that situation where you weren't actively looking for a new job.
12:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:12 Speaker 04 But this amazing opportunity just kind of landed in your lap.
12:15 Speaker 03 Right.
12:15 Speaker 04 And your current company, they recognize that.
12:18 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
12:19 Speaker 04 And they offer you something concrete.
12:21 Speaker 03 Okay.
12:22 Speaker 04 To address any concerns you might have.
12:24 Speaker 03 Okay, so they're being proactive.
12:26 Speaker 04 Exactly.
12:26 Speaker 03 They're not just reacting to your potential departure.
12:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:29 Speaker 03 They're showing you that they value you before you even have to say anything.
12:33 Speaker 04 Exactly. That's a strong sign.
12:35 Speaker 03 Right.
12:35 Speaker 04 That they're invested in your growth.
12:36 Speaker 03 I know.
12:37 Speaker 04 And they want you to stay.
12:38 Speaker 03 So it's not about them panicking to keep you. It's about them recognizing your worth.
12:43 Speaker 04 Exactly.
12:44 Speaker 03 And being willing to step up to meet your needs.
12:46 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
12:47 Speaker 03 Okay, that makes sense. What else?
12:48 Speaker 04 Another scenario is if they offer you a substantial promotion.
12:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
12:55 Speaker 04 Again, I don't mean a lateral move.
12:56 Speaker 03 Right.
12:57 Speaker 04 This needs to be a real step up. A significant increase in responsibility.
13:03 Speaker 03 Okay.
13:03 Speaker 04 Something that truly aligns with your long-term career aspirations.
13:07 Speaker 03 So it's like, they're not just trying to keep you in any role.
13:10 Speaker 04 Right.
13:11 Speaker 03 They're actually offering you a path.
13:12 Speaker 04 Exactly.
13:13 Speaker 03 To reach your full potential at the company.
13:16 Speaker 04 They're saying, we see your talent and we want to help you grow.
13:20 Speaker 03 Okay, that's a good one. What's the third scenario?
13:23 Speaker 04 Let's say they offer you a leadership position.
13:26 Speaker 03 Okay.
13:26 Speaker 04 In a major, long-term initiative. They're making you an integral part of their future success.
13:33 Speaker 03 So they're basically saying, we can't do this without you. Exactly. Okay, so in all of those cases, the counter offer is more than just a reaction to you potentially leaving.
13:46 Speaker 04 Right.
13:46 Speaker 03 It's a sign that they truly value you and they're willing to invest in your future.
13:52 Speaker 04 I think so. It's a sign of partnership.
13:54 Speaker 03 But even in those situations.
13:56 Speaker 04 Right.
13:56 Speaker 03 It's still crucial to proceed with caution.
13:59 Speaker 04 Yes, absolutely.
14:01 Speaker 03 Right.
14:01 Speaker 04 You need to carefully evaluate the offer, consider the potential downsides. And most importantly, trust your gut.
14:09 Speaker 03 Because ultimately, it's your career and your happiness that are on the line.
14:14 Speaker 04 And speaking of happiness, let's talk about the other side of the equation. The new job offer.
14:20 Speaker 03 Oh, right, because sometimes that shiny new job might not be all it's cracked up to be.
14:26 Speaker 04 Exactly. It's important to remember that the grass isn't always greener.
14:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:29 Speaker 04 On the other side.
14:30 Speaker 03 So how do you avoid jumping from the frying pan into the fire?
14:34 Speaker 04 Well, due diligence is key. Research the company.
14:37 Speaker 03 Okay.
14:37 Speaker 04 Talk to people who work there. Ask tough questions.
14:40 Speaker 03 Okay.
14:41 Speaker 04 About the culture, the workload, the opportunities for growth.
14:45 Speaker 03 Don't be afraid to really dig deep and look for any red flags.
14:49 Speaker 04 Trust your instincts. If something feels off, it probably is.
14:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, because starting a new job only to realize it's not a good fit, right, it can be a major setback.
15:00 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
15:00 Speaker 03 So it's a gamble either way.
15:02 Speaker 04 There's always an element of risk.
15:04 Speaker 03 Whether you stay or you go.
15:05 Speaker 04 Exactly.
15:06 Speaker 03 So what's the best way to make that decision?
15:09 Speaker 04 Well, you need to weigh your options carefully. Think about your long-term goals.
15:14 Speaker 03 Right.
15:15 Speaker 04 And most importantly, make a decision that feels right for you.
15:19 Speaker 03 Not just financially, but emotionally and professionally as well.
15:22 Speaker 04 Exactly. It's about finding the right fit for your values, your goals, your overall well-being.
15:29 Speaker 03 Okay, so we've covered a lot of ground here. Talking about the risks and rewards of counteroffers and the importance of really thinking through your options.
15:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, before making a decision. But before we wrap up, I want to circle back to something you said earlier.
15:44 Speaker 03 Okay.
15:44 Speaker 04 About, you know, testing the waters and knowing your worth.
15:47 Speaker 03 Yes, what about it?
15:49 Speaker 04 Well, it seems like a lot of these counteroffer situations arise because people are feeling undervalued in their current roles.
15:59 Speaker 03 Right.
15:59 Speaker 04 And they only discover their true market value when they start looking elsewhere.
16:04 Speaker 03 That's a great point.
16:05 Speaker 04 So what if, instead of waiting for a counteroffer,
16:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:08 Speaker 04 you proactively communicated your career aspirations and your concerns
16:16 Speaker 03 Interesting.
16:16 Speaker 04 with your current employer?
16:18 Speaker 03 So instead of playing the leaving card, you're suggesting that people take a more direct approach?
16:22 Speaker 04 Exactly. Have open and honest conversations with your manager about your goals, your expectations, any areas where you feel like you're not being fully utilized or compensated fairly.
16:34 Speaker 03 That takes courage, though, right?
16:35 Speaker 04 It does.
16:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:36 Speaker 04 Not everyone feels comfortable having those kinds of conversations.
16:39 Speaker 03 Especially if they're worried about the repercussions.
16:41 Speaker 04 Exactly.
16:42 Speaker 03 But think about it this way. If your employer truly values you, they'll want to keep you happy and engaged. They'll want to see you succeed. And if they're not receptive to those conversations,
16:57 Speaker 04 Right.
16:57 Speaker 03 that might be a red flag in itself.
16:59 Speaker 04 It could be a sign that your values and goals aren't aligned with theirs.
17:03 Speaker 03 And in that case, it might be time to consider other options, regardless of whether a counteroffer is on the table.
17:11 Speaker 04 Exactly.
17:11 Speaker 03 So it's about taking control of your career destiny, being proactive rather than reactive.
17:18 Speaker 04 And who knows? Those conversations might just lead to the growth and fulfillment you're seeking.
17:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:24 Speaker 04 Without ever having to threaten to leave.
17:26 Speaker 03 No, that's a win-win.
17:27 Speaker 04 That's the ideal scenario.
17:29 Speaker 03 So instead of viewing a counteroffer as a simple yes or no decision.
17:34 Speaker 04 Right.
17:34 Speaker 03 See it as an opportunity for reflection.
17:37 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
17:38 Speaker 03 Growth. And maybe even a chance to reshape your current role.
17:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:43 Speaker 03 Into something that truly fulfills you.
17:45 Speaker 04 That's a great way to look at it.
17:46 Speaker 03 And remember, there's no one-size-fits-all answer.
17:48 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Every situation is unique.
17:51 Speaker 03 But by carefully considering your options and prioritizing your long-term goals.
17:56 Speaker 04 Hmm.
17:57 Speaker 03 You can make the best decision for your career journey.
17:59 Speaker 04 Exactly. You're in control.
18:03 Speaker 03 Well, I think we've covered a lot of ground today.
18:05 Speaker 04 Worth it.
18:05 Speaker 03 And given our listeners plenty to think about when it comes to navigating the tricky world of counteroffers. Thanks for joining us on the deep dive. We'll be back next time with more insights and advice to help you navigate your career journey.
18:20 Speaker 04 See you then.
18:20 Speaker 03 Bye, everyone. Bye. It's like they almost penalize you.
18:24 Speaker 04 Right.
18:25 Speaker 03 For knowing your worth.
18:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a weird dynamic, but I think it's important to remember, you know, why a lot of these counteroffer situations happen in the first place.
18:34 Speaker 03 Okay.
18:35 Speaker 04 It often boils down to the employee feels undervalued.
18:38 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
18:39 Speaker 04 Right? They're not feeling appreciated.
18:40 Speaker 03 Right.
18:41 Speaker 04 They're not feeling like they're being compensated fairly.
18:43 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
18:43 Speaker 04 So they start looking around, exploring their options.
18:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
18:46 Speaker 04 And suddenly they realize, oh, wow, I'm actually worth a lot more to what I'm currently getting.
18:52 Speaker 03 So it's like, they've been playing this game.
18:55 Speaker 04 Right.
18:55 Speaker 03 Without knowing all the rules.
18:57 Speaker 04 Exactly.
18:58 Speaker 03 And then suddenly they're like, oh, wait a minute, there's a whole other.
19:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:01 Speaker 03 Playbook out there.
19:02 Speaker 04 There's a whole other world of possibilities.
19:05 Speaker 03 Right.
19:05 Speaker 04 And that can be a really eye-opening experience.
19:07 Speaker 03 And once you have that knowledge, right?
19:10 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
19:10 Speaker 03 Once you know your worth.
19:11 Speaker 04 Right.
19:12 Speaker 03 It's hard to just ignore it and go back to the status quo.
19:15 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
19:16 Speaker 03 So how do you navigate that? You've tested the waters. Yeah. You've realized you're worth more.
19:22 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
19:22 Speaker 03 But you're also trying to weigh the risks.
19:24 Speaker 04 Right.
19:25 Speaker 03 Versus going.
19:27 Speaker 04 It's a tough spot to be in.
19:28 Speaker 03 It is. So what's your advice? How do you approach that decision?
19:33 Speaker 04 Well, I think it's helpful to go back to those statistics we talked about. Remember.
19:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:38 Speaker 04 Eighty percent of people who accept counteroffers end up leaving within six months.
19:42 Speaker 03 Right.
19:43 Speaker 04 And within a year, it's ninety-three percent.
19:45 Speaker 03 So why do you think that is? Why are so many people leaving?
19:48 Speaker 04 Well, because often, the underlying issues that led them to look for another job in the first place.
19:56 Speaker 03 Right.
19:56 Speaker 04 Those haven't actually been addressed.
19:58 Speaker 03 It's like you put a Band-Aid on a broken bone.
20:01 Speaker 04 Exactly.
20:01 Speaker 03 Right. You might be getting more money or a slightly better title.
20:05 Speaker 04 Right.
20:05 Speaker 03 But the fundamental problems are still there.
20:08 Speaker 04 The toxic boss is still toxic.
20:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:10 Speaker 04 The company culture is still stifling. There's still a lack of growth opportunity.
20:14 Speaker 03 And those things don't just magically disappear.
20:16 Speaker 04 They rarely do.
20:17 Speaker 03 Just because you got a raise, right?
20:19 Speaker 04 Right. It's important to remember that.
20:20 Speaker 03 So it's not just about the money, then?
20:22 Speaker 04 No, and you know what's interesting? Research has actually shown
20:26 Speaker 03 Okay.
20:26 Speaker 04 that money is not the main motivator for most people who leave their jobs.
20:31 Speaker 03 So it's not always about chasing a bigger paycheck?
20:35 Speaker 04 Not necessarily.
20:36 Speaker 03 So if it's not the money, then what is it? What are the main reasons?
20:40 Speaker 04 Well, it's often a combination of things.
20:42 Speaker 03 Okay.
20:42 Speaker 04 Work-life balance is a big one.
20:44 Speaker 03 Makes sense.
20:45 Speaker 04 People want to feel like they have time for their personal lives, their families.
20:49 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:49 Speaker 04 Their hobbies.
20:50 Speaker 03 Right.
20:51 Speaker 04 Challenging work is another big one.
20:52 Speaker 03 Okay.
20:53 Speaker 04 People want to feel like they're using their skills. They're being stretched.
20:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:58 Speaker 04 They're learning and growing.
20:59 Speaker 03 They want to feel stimulated.
21:01 Speaker 04 Right, exactly.
21:02 Speaker 03 Okay.
21:02 Speaker 04 And then, of course, feeling valued. Having a supportive work environment.
21:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
21:07 Speaker 04 Opportunities for advancement. All of these things play a role.
21:11 Speaker 03 So if money isn't always the driving force, what should people be considering when they're evaluating a counteroffer?
21:21 Speaker 04 They need to ask themselves some tough questions.
21:23 Speaker 03 Okay, like their...
21:24 Speaker 04 What will actually change if I stay? Will my boss suddenly become this amazing mentor who supports my growth?
21:32 Speaker 03 Right.
21:33 Speaker 04 Will the company culture magically transform into something that's more positive and inclusive?
21:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, if the answer is no to those questions.
21:41 Speaker 04 Right.
21:42 Speaker 03 Then that counteroffer starts to look a lot less appealing.
21:45 Speaker 04 Exactly.
21:45 Speaker 03 And I think it's also important to remember.
21:47 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
21:48 Speaker 03 You now know your worth.
21:49 Speaker 04 Right.
21:50 Speaker 03 You've seen what other companies are willing to offer.
21:52 Speaker 04 You've tested the market.
21:53 Speaker 03 So, will your current company actually recognize and respect that going forward? Or are they just gonna revert back to their old ways once the dust settles?
22:03 Speaker 04 That's a big risk.
22:04 Speaker 03 It is, because even if they match or exceed that other offer you got.
22:10 Speaker 04 Right.
22:10 Speaker 03 It's not just about the money at that point.
22:13 Speaker 04 It's about so much more than that.
22:15 Speaker 03 Right, it's about feeling valued.
22:17 Speaker 04 Exactly.
22:17 Speaker 03 It's about feeling respected.
22:19 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
22:19 Speaker 03 It's about having opportunities to grow.
22:22 Speaker 04 And feel like you're part of something that you believe in.
22:25 Speaker 03 And if you don't have that foundation, then even the biggest paycheck might not be enough.
22:30 Speaker 04 It might feel good in the short term.
22:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:32 Speaker 04 But in the long run, it's not gonna lead to fulfillment.
22:35 Speaker 03 It's like staying in a relationship that's no longer serving you.
22:38 Speaker 04 Exactly.
22:39 Speaker 03 Just because they promise to take out the trash more often.
22:41 Speaker 04 Right, it's not about the superficial things.
22:43 Speaker 03 Right.
22:44 Speaker 04 It's about the deeper connection.
22:45 Speaker 03 And the trust.
22:46 Speaker 04 Exactly.
22:47 Speaker 03 And speaking of trust, let's talk about the impact on your reputation.
22:51 Speaker 04 Okay.
22:51 Speaker 03 Because accepting a counteroffer can make you look like.
22:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:55 Speaker 03 A bit of a flight risk.
22:56 Speaker 04 Right, it's like you've shown them that you're willing to walk away.
23:00 Speaker 03 Right.
23:01 Speaker 04 So, how do you think that might affect things going forward?
23:06 Speaker 03 Well, I imagine it could impact future promotion opportunities.
23:10 Speaker 04 It definitely could.
23:11 Speaker 03 Right, they might think, well, they were almost out the door, once what's to stop them from doing it again?
23:16 Speaker 04 Exactly.
23:17 Speaker 03 So, even if you're genuinely committed to staying after you accept the counteroffer.
23:23 Speaker 04 Right.
23:24 Speaker 03 There might be this lingering doubt in their minds.
23:26 Speaker 04 There could be.
23:27 Speaker 03 And that could affect your career trajectory.
23:30 Speaker 04 It could. They might hesitate to give you more responsibility.
23:33 Speaker 03 Oh.
23:34 Speaker 04 Or to trust you with important projects.
23:36 Speaker 03 Right, because they're not sure if you're really in it for the long haul.
23:39 Speaker 04 Exactly.
23:40 Speaker 03 And that's gotta be frustrating, right?
23:42 Speaker 04 It can be.
23:42 Speaker 03 Especially if you truly wanted to stay.
23:44 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
23:45 Speaker 03 But just felt undervalued before.
23:47 Speaker 04 It's a tough situation.
23:48 Speaker 03 And then there's the added risk.
23:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:49 Speaker 03 That if the company needs to make cutbacks.
23:52 Speaker 04 Right.
23:53 Speaker 03 You might be seen as more expendable.
23:55 Speaker 04 Exactly.
23:55 Speaker 03 Because you already tried to leave once.
23:58 Speaker 04 It's almost like you get penalized.
24:00 Speaker 03 Right.
24:00 Speaker 04 For knowing your worth.
24:01 Speaker 03 So even if you manage to negotiate a great counteroffer.
24:06 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
24:06 Speaker 03 There's still this underlying risk.
24:08 Speaker 04 Yes.
24:09 Speaker 03 That it might not lead to the long-term happiness and satisfaction.
24:13 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
24:14 Speaker 03 That you're really looking for.
24:15 Speaker 04 You have to weigh the short-term gains.
24:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:17 Speaker 04 Against those potential long-term consequences.
24:19 Speaker 03 Okay, so we've talked about all the reasons why accepting a counteroffer.
24:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:23 Speaker 03 Can be a risky move.
24:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:24 Speaker 03 But let's flip the script for a moment. When might it actually make sense to consider staying?
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25:12 Speaker 04 Well, as we touched upon earlier.
25:14 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
25:14 Speaker 04 There are a few specific scenarios.
25:16 Speaker 03 Okay.
25:17 Speaker 04 Where accepting a counteroffer could actually be a good move.
25:21 Speaker 03 Let's hear them.
25:22 Speaker 04 First, remember that situation we talked about?
25:25 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
25:25 Speaker 04 Where you weren't actively looking for a new job?
25:27 Speaker 03 Right.
25:28 Speaker 04 But this amazing opportunity just kind of fell into your lap.
25:31 Speaker 03 Right.
25:31 Speaker 04 And your current company, they get wind of it. And they come to you proactively.
25:36 Speaker 03 Okay.
25:37 Speaker 04 They're not just reacting to your potential departure.
25:41 Speaker 03 Okay.
25:41 Speaker 04 They're actually coming to you and saying, hey, we know you might be tempted. We want to make sure you're happy.
25:46 Speaker 03 Okay.
25:47 Speaker 04 So here's some things we're willing to do.
25:48 Speaker 03 So they're demonstrating that they value you.
25:53 Speaker 04 Exactly.
25:53 Speaker 03 Before you even have to ask.
25:55 Speaker 04 Right. They're not just trying to put out a fire.
25:57 Speaker 03 Right.
25:57 Speaker 04 They're actually trying to build something.
25:58 Speaker 03 Okay, so that's a good sign.
26:00 Speaker 04 It is. Another scenario is if they offer you a substantial promotion. And I'm not talking about a lateral move here.
26:06 Speaker 03 Right.
26:07 Speaker 04 This needs to be a real step up.
26:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:09 Speaker 04 A significant increase in responsibility.
26:12 Speaker 03 Okay.
26:12 Speaker 04 Something that truly aligns.
26:13 Speaker 03 Right.
26:14 Speaker 04 With your long-term career goals.
26:16 Speaker 03 So it's not about them just trying to keep you in any role.
26:20 Speaker 04 Exactly.
26:20 Speaker 03 It's about them actually investing in your growth.
26:23 Speaker 04 Right.
26:23 Speaker 03 And helping you reach your full potential.
26:25 Speaker 04 They're saying, we see your talent.
26:27 Speaker 03 Okay.
26:27 Speaker 04 And we want to help you develop it.
26:29 Speaker 03 Okay, that's a good one. What's the third scenario?
26:31 Speaker 04 Let's say they offer you a leadership position.
26:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
26:34 Speaker 04 In a major, long-term initiative. Something that's really critical.
26:40 Speaker 03 Right.
26:40 Speaker 04 To the company's future success.
26:41 Speaker 03 So they're basically saying.
26:43 Speaker 04 Mm-mm.
26:43 Speaker 03 We can't do this without you.
26:46 Speaker 04 Exactly.
26:46 Speaker 03 You're that important to us.
26:47 Speaker 04 They're recognizing your unique skills and contributions.
26:52 Speaker 03 Okay, so in all of those cases.
26:54 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
26:54 Speaker 03 It sounds like the counter offer is more than just a reaction.
26:57 Speaker 04 It is.
26:57 Speaker 03 It's a genuine sign of respect and appreciation.
27:00 Speaker 04 Exactly.
27:01 Speaker 03 And a commitment to your future at the company.
27:03 Speaker 04 It's a sign that they see you as a partner.
27:05 Speaker 03 Hmm.
27:06 Speaker 04 In their success.
27:07 Speaker 03 But even in those situations, right?
27:09 Speaker 04 Right.
27:10 Speaker 03 It's still important to proceed with caution.
27:12 Speaker 04 Absolutely. You need to carefully evaluate the offer.
27:15 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
27:16 Speaker 04 Consider the potential downsides.
27:18 Speaker 03 Right.
27:18 Speaker 04 And most importantly.
27:19 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:19 Speaker 04 Trust your gut.
27:21 Speaker 03 Because ultimately, it's your career and your happiness, et cetera, at stake.
27:26 Speaker 04 And speaking of happiness, let's shift gears for a moment.
27:28 Speaker 03 Okay.
27:29 Speaker 04 And talk about the other side of the equation.
27:31 Speaker 03 Okay.
27:32 Speaker 04 That new job offer that you've got.
27:33 Speaker 03 Right, because sometimes that shiny new job.
27:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:37 Speaker 03 Might not be all it's cracked up to be.
27:39 Speaker 04 That's true. It's important to remember that the grass isn't always greener.
27:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:45 Speaker 04 On the other side.
27:46 Speaker 03 So how do you avoid jumping from the frying pan into the fire?
27:50 Speaker 04 Well, I think due diligence is key.
27:52 Speaker 03 Okay.
27:53 Speaker 04 Do your research, talk to people who work with the company.
27:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:56 Speaker 04 Ask tough questions.
27:57 Speaker 03 Okay.
27:58 Speaker 04 About the culture, the workload, the opportunities for growth.
28:01 Speaker 03 Really dig deep and look for any red flags.
28:04 Speaker 04 If something feels off.
28:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:06 Speaker 04 Trust your instincts.
28:07 Speaker 03 Right, because starting a new job only to realize that it's not a good fit.
28:13 Speaker 04 Right.
28:14 Speaker 03 That can be a huge setback.
28:16 Speaker 04 Absolute.
28:17 Speaker 03 So it's a gamble either way.
28:18 Speaker 04 Right, there's always an element of risk.
28:21 Speaker 03 Whether you stay or you go.
28:23 Speaker 04 Exactly.
28:23 Speaker 03 So what's the best way to make that decision?
28:27 Speaker 04 Well, you need to weigh your options carefully. Think about your long-term goals.
28:32 Speaker 03 Right.
28:33 Speaker 04 And most importantly, make a decision.
28:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:36 Speaker 04 That feels right for you.
28:38 Speaker 03 Not just financially, but also emotionally and professionally.
28:41 Speaker 04 Exactly. It's about finding the right fit.
28:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:43 Speaker 04 For you, for your values, your goals, your overall well-being.
28:48 Speaker 03 Okay, so we've covered a lot of ground here today.
28:50 Speaker 04 We have.
28:50 Speaker 03 Talking about the risks and rewards of counteroffers.
28:53 Speaker 04 Right.
28:54 Speaker 03 And the importance of really thinking through your options before you make a decision.
28:59 Speaker 04 It's a big decision.
28:59 Speaker 03 It is. But before we wrap up, I want to go back to something you said earlier.
29:03 Speaker 04 Yeah. About, you know, testing the waters and knowing your worth.
29:07 Speaker 03 Yes. What about it?
29:09 Speaker 04 Well, it seems like a lot of these counteroffer situations happen because people are feeling undervalued in their current roles.
29:18 Speaker 03 Right.
29:19 Speaker 04 And they only discover their true market value when they start looking elsewhere.
29:25 Speaker 03 That's a great point.
29:26 Speaker 04 So what if, instead of waiting for a counteroffer, you proactively communicated your career aspirations and your concerns with your current employer?
29:37 Speaker 03 So instead of playing the leaving card.
29:39 Speaker 04 Right.
29:39 Speaker 03 You're suggesting that people take a more direct approach.
29:41 Speaker 04 Exactly.
29:42 Speaker 03 Okay.
29:42 Speaker 04 Have open and honest conversations with your manager about your goals, your expectations.
29:47 Speaker 03 Right.
29:48 Speaker 04 Any areas where you feel like you're not being fully utilized.
29:51 Speaker 03 Okay.
29:52 Speaker 04 Or compensated fairly.
29:53 Speaker 03 That takes a lot of courage, though.
29:55 Speaker 04 It does. It does.
29:55 Speaker 03 Not everyone feels comfortable having those kinds of conversations.
29:58 Speaker 04 Especially if they're worried about, you know, potential repercussions.
30:01 Speaker 03 But think about it this way. If your employer truly values you.
30:06 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
30:06 Speaker 03 They're gonna wanna keep you happy.
30:08 Speaker 04 Right.
30:09 Speaker 03 They're gonna wanna see you succeed.
30:11 Speaker 04 They want you to feel fulfilled.
30:12 Speaker 03 Right.
30:12 Speaker 04 And engaged.
30:13 Speaker 03 And if they're not receptive to those conversations, that might be a red flag in itself.
30:18 Speaker 04 It could be.
30:19 Speaker 03 Right.
30:19 Speaker 04 It might be a sign.
30:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:21 Speaker 04 That your values and your goals aren't really aligned with theirs.
30:25 Speaker 03 And in that case.
30:26 Speaker 04 Right.
30:27 Speaker 03 It might be time to start looking elsewhere.
30:29 Speaker 04 Exactly.
30:29 Speaker 03 Regardless of whether or not a counteroffer is on the table.
30:32 Speaker 04 You have to prioritize your own growth and happiness.
30:36 Speaker 03 So it's really about taking control of your career destiny, being proactive.
30:41 Speaker 04 Right.
30:41 Speaker 03 Rather than reactive.
30:43 Speaker 04 And who knows, those conversations might lead to some really positive changes that you hadn't even considered before.
30:48 Speaker 03 You might be able to create the ideal situation without ever having to walk away.
30:53 Speaker 04 That's the dream.
30:54 Speaker 03 It is. So instead of viewing a counteroffer as this simple yes or no decision.
31:01 Speaker 04 Right.
31:02 Speaker 03 Think of it as an opportunity to reflect.
31:05 Speaker 04 To reassess, to have some important conversations.
31:07 Speaker 03 And maybe even a chance to reshape your current role.
31:11 Speaker 04 Exactly.
31:12 Speaker 03 Into something that truly fulfills you.
31:15 Speaker 04 That's a powerful way to look at it.
31:16 Speaker 03 And remember, there's no right or wrong answer here.
31:19 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Every situation is unique.
31:21 Speaker 03 Every person's career path is different. So it's really about carefully considering your options and prioritizing.
31:30 Speaker 04 Right.
31:30 Speaker 03 Your long-term goals.
31:31 Speaker 04 Your long-term happiness.
31:33 Speaker 03 Right.
31:33 Speaker 04 And fulfillment.
31:34 Speaker 03 Okay, well, I think we've covered a lot of ground today.
31:36 Speaker 04 I think so too.
31:37 Speaker 03 And given our listeners a lot to think about when it comes to this tricky topic of counteroffers.
31:43 Speaker 04 It's definitely a complex issue.
31:45 Speaker 03 It is, it is. Thanks for joining us on the deep dive.
31:48 Speaker 04 My pleasure.
31:49 Speaker 03 We'll be back next time with more insights and advice to help you navigate your career journey.
31:54 Speaker 04 Looking forward to it.
31:55 Speaker 03 It's about taking that knowledge and that power and using it to create a better situation for yourself.
32:01 Speaker 04 Whether it's at your current company.
32:02 Speaker 03 Right.
32:03 Speaker 04 Or somewhere new.
32:04 Speaker 03 So if we were to like. Distill everything we've talked about today into one key takeaway for our listeners.
32:11 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:11 Speaker 03 We're maybe facing this counteroffer dilemma. What would it be?
32:15 Speaker 04 I would say, don't let the allure of that counteroffer.
32:19 Speaker 03 Right.
32:19 Speaker 04 Distract you from your ultimate goal.
32:22 Speaker 03 Which is?
32:23 Speaker 04 Which is long-term career satisfaction.
32:25 Speaker 03 Right.
32:26 Speaker 04 That's what really matters at the end of the day.
32:28 Speaker 03 Don't get caught up in the short-term excitement and lose sight of the bigger picture.
32:32 Speaker 04 Exactly. Think about the long-term implications.
32:35 Speaker 03 Right.
32:35 Speaker 04 Think about your reputation, the trust dynamics. Ask yourself, does staying here really align with my values?
32:44 Speaker 03 With my aspirations.
32:45 Speaker 04 Where do I see myself in five years?
32:47 Speaker 03 In 10 years.
32:48 Speaker 04 Will this decision help me get there?
32:50 Speaker 03 Right.
32:50 Speaker 04 Or will it hold me back?
32:51 Speaker 03 And even if you ultimately decide to decline the counteroffer, this whole experience can be incredibly valuable.
32:58 Speaker 04 It can.
32:59 Speaker 03 Right. It's a chance to really step back and reflect on what's important to you.
33:04 Speaker 04 What are your non-negotiables?
33:05 Speaker 03 Right. What are your priorities?
33:06 Speaker 04 What kind of environment do you need to do your best work?
33:09 Speaker 03 And who knows? It might even spark some important conversations with your current employer.
33:14 Speaker 04 Exactly.
33:14 Speaker 03 Well, it could lead to some positive changes.
33:16 Speaker 04 You might be able to create
33:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:18 Speaker 04 that ideal situation
33:20 Speaker 03 Right.
33:20 Speaker 04 without ever having to leave.
33:22 Speaker 03 So instead of seeing a counteroffer as a simple yes or no decision, think of it as an opportunity for growth.
33:31 Speaker 04 For reflection.
33:32 Speaker 03 Right.
33:32 Speaker 04 Or for dialogue.
33:33 Speaker 03 And maybe even a chance to reshape
33:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:36 Speaker 03 your current role into something that truly fulfills you.
33:41 Speaker 04 That's a great way to frame it.
33:42 Speaker 03 And remember, there's no one-size-fits-all answer here.
33:45 Speaker 04 Absolutely not.
33:46 Speaker 03 No.
33:46 Speaker 04 Every situation is unique.
33:47 Speaker 03 Every career path is different.
33:49 Speaker 04 Right. What works for one person
33:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:51 Speaker 04 might not work for another.
33:52 Speaker 03 So trust your gut.
33:54 Speaker 04 Trust your instincts.
33:55 Speaker 03 Make a decision that feels right for you.
33:58 Speaker 04 And don't be afraid to advocate for yourself.
34:00 Speaker 03 Excellent advice. Well, I think we've covered a lot of ground today.
34:04 Speaker 04 I think so too.
34:04 Speaker 03 Given our listeners a lot to think about.
34:07 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
34:07 Speaker 03 So to our listeners, thank you for joining us on the deep dive.
34:12 Speaker 04 Thanks for listening.
34:13 Speaker 03 We'll be back next time with more insights and advice to help you navigate your career journey.
34:18 Speaker 04 See you then.
34:19 Speaker 03 Until then, take care.
34:21 Speaker 04 Bye, everyone.
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