Mahomes Bromance, Stumping Caitlin Clark, Hurts' Snaps, LeBron Gets Paid, "Edelnut" & MORE | Best Of

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:59Speaker 01

  Thank you to our partner, Royal Caribbean.

• 1:02Travis Kelce?

  Dude, have you seen this? Royal Caribbean just dropped The Legend of the Seas. It's the biggest cruise ship on the planet. Like, nothing's even close to being this big. And it's sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, starting this November.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  That's right, this thing is stacked. Seven pools, more places to eat than you can even count. I mean, they have something for everybody.

• 1:26Travis Kelce?

  Like, bring the kids, bring mom and dad, shoot, bring the whole crew. Everybody's got a spot, that's what makes it special.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  And the entertainment, Latin music, ice skating, full-on Broadway shows. It's pretty amazing, pretty much everything you want in one place. Oh, and did I mention there's a water park?

• 1:43Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

• 1:45Speaker 01

  I love a water park.

• 1:46Travis Kelce?

  But the crazy one? Crown's Edge, a ropes course off the side of the ship, not for the faint of heart, brother.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  They've also got Playmaker, sports bar, and arcade. So that means games on every screen. I love a good arcade, sports place combination.

• 2:04Travis Kelce?

  All right, count me in. Get the family on the new Legend of the Seas, sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Visit royalcaribbean.com to learn more.

• 2:16Speaker 03

  To realize the future America needs, we understand what's needed from us to face each threat head on. We've earned our place in the fight for our nation's future. We are Marines. We were made for this.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  My rookie year, or my rookie contract, I'm coming up, I'm redoing my rookie contract. And I decide, I potentially, I'm like, okay, I think I might do this myself. I might forego it, be my own agent, negotiate my own contract. And thankfully, my agents were like, they talked me into like, no, no, no, we need to, you're gonna want to agent, trust me. They sent over the first offer, and I was like, all right, where do we sign? They're like, no, no, no, no, we can get it, we can go high, we can go high.

• 2:58Speaker 04

  Oh, man, that's funny as shit.

• 3:05Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of Wondery Show, produced by Waves Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by DraftKings. That's right, the crown is yours.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  All right, we've got an incredible best of episode for you guys today. We've put together some of our favorite moments from the conversations with some of the best athletes we've had on the podcast. You'll hear from Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Katelyn Clark, Gronk, Shaq, LeBron James, Matt Stafford, and more.

• 3:31Travis Kelce?

  Remember, we'll be back with new episodes of New Heights just in time for the NFL season on August 27th. You won't want to miss it.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  Our guest is Super Bowl MVP, Mr. Julian Edelman, baby.

• 3:46Speaker 05

  Yes, sir.

• 3:50Speaker 06

  What an intro, what an intro. Welk was like one of the best route runners I've ever seen. Like the first couple of years when I was with him, I was like, this dude's a fucking monster. He was so small and so quick, even on a press coverage, he could get like four steps in and be doing his head shit. He could get guys to turn their hips and just pop up and get in. Like his, his release came and his routes, they were fucking sick. And, you know, honestly, it was a huge part of, you know, how I got to learn the position. You know, I came in playing quarterback, you know, so like I got to watch him and I got to take tidbits from fucking Randy Moss, Joey Galloway, like all these guys.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  What's Randy telling you? Just be bigger and faster than everybody and jump up and catch them like?

• 4:31Speaker 06

  I just remember Randy, how he Hey, Dules, hey, Dules. He used to call me Edelnut. Hey, Edelnut, get my hot tub about 103 and get my Gatorade.

• 4:43Speaker 06

  That's where we used to have the metal tubs.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:46Speaker 06

  You know, you have metal tubs and hot tub.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:48Speaker 06

  He never wanted to go on the regular hot tub. He had to have his own shit with the little, he had to have this, uh, it was like menthol rubbing alcohol in there.

• 4:58Speaker 06

  And he go, Edelnut, go get my towel, my Gatorade and make that hot tub about 103, 102. Don't fuck it up. It's one time.

• 5:06Travis Kelce?

  What a legend.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Yes, sir.

• 5:09Speaker 06

  It's one time Randy. It was like the day before Christmas and we had to work. We had a game on Christmas or something and Randy was talking to his mom and I just walked by. I was like, hey, Randy, tell mama Moss I said, you know, Merry Christmas. He goes, Edelnut, when I'm talking to my motherfucking mom, you shut the fuck up.

• 5:30Speaker 06

  I literally went like this. I looked at it and I fucking just, I walked away. I got contact. I was so scared. I was a rookie. He's like, don't you fucking talk to me when I'm talking to my mom.

• 5:43Speaker 06

  But he'd always love me up too, you know?

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Of course, yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 06

  But like you could learn things from him, like how he tracked the ball, like, like in one on ones, he would sit and run and it looked like he wasn't running. And the ball would come and we all know that the DBs play hands. When you throw your hands out there, DBs are gonna try to come through.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:00Speaker 06

  He would just run and the ball would come right there and he'd just boop and just pop his little hands out the last second, you know? So you could take things from anyone.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:09Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:09Speaker 06

  Especially as a route runner.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Was Welker, like, did he help you out with the route running and all that stuff like, or was it more just like watching him do it?

• 6:15Speaker 06

  Watching. You know, I love Welk to death, you know, but he was kinda like the asshole older brother, you know what I mean? Like, I was there to take his job and he was there to.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  And that ended up happening when he got hurt, right? And you kinda got out of 2D.

• 6:27Travis Kelce?

  I know what an asshole older brother is, man. That is, it's a tough position to be in as the younger brother.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  I feel like I could be way more of an asshole.

• 6:34Travis Kelce?

  Oh, you thought I was talking about you.

• 6:37Travis Kelce?

  Did you actually take Jerry Rice's daughter to prom and try on a Super Bowl ring? Was that real?

• 6:41Speaker 06

  She took me to her prom.

• 6:42Travis Kelce?

  Ooh.

• 6:44Speaker 06

  And yes, I did wear those Super Bowl rings.

• 6:46Travis Kelce?

  That's awesome.

• 6:47Speaker 06

  Sorry, Jer.

• 6:49Speaker 06

  I used to go into his office all the time. He was never home, so I'd be over there playing with balls. I saw jerseys. It was crazy. Jerry Rice, bro, I was a Bay area kid. He was a fucking legend. I mean.

• 7:02Travis Kelce?

  The record setter himself.

• 7:03Speaker 06

  It was, it was so crazy and they had such a cool house. Man.

• 7:13Speaker 06

  I remember the first time I met him dude came out yoked up six packed up with his chain on he had his like his fucking dreads that are starting back here he's old Jerry by then Oakland Jerry? Oakland Jerry he intimidated the fuck out of me. Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't having it. Which I understand I have a daughter, I have a daughter, I'm a father of one.

• 7:35Speaker 05

  Number 95 Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Stone Cold Jones.

• 7:43Travis Kelce?

  Where are we at here?

• 7:44Speaker 06

  If we're sticking to it, it's the Combine.

• 7:47Travis Kelce?

  Nice Combine, man, I'll tell you what, you had one of the most electric Combine moments I think has ever has ever gone on national television, man.

• 8:00Speaker 06

  Yes, let's just talk about it, you know?

• 8:02Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, let's talk about it, big guy, how about 40 yard dash?

• 8:04Speaker 07

  I'll be honest with you, bro, I was, I was so big, I'm being different from everyone, everybody was wearing the fucking long tights. I was like, you know what, I ain't not going out there and copying everybody, I'm gonna wear the short tights. I didn't realize they was boxers, bro. I didn't realize they was boxers, bro, I honest to God.

• 8:25Speaker 07

  And you know they put you in the trains when you're standing in somebody, it's like these, the rooms are like little train cabins that I could barely see, so I'm just grabbing them, I'm like, I'm gonna put these on, I'm gonna run in these. Fucking get out there, everybody is looking crazy, I'm like, let's do it.

• 8:39Travis Kelce?

  Oh my gosh, well it made you faster, man, it made you so fast, you tripped over your feet, oh my goodness.

• 8:46Speaker 06

  Tripped over that third leg.

• 8:56Travis Kelce?

  Tripped over, just jumped out, man, that shit is so fucking funny, man, I'm not gonna lie, we were dying laughing, would like, would you first, the face you had when the camera came up to you? I believe you said it right there in quotes like my dick fell out, I, I think that's what you said right after.

• 9:13Speaker 07

  Exactly what I said, I didn't even believe it, I was running, I was looking at the 40 and all of a sudden I feel it, I feel it touching my leg and I'm like, oh shit. So I tried to, I tried to cuff it and take the dive, you know what I mean? Cause I know little kids watching. And oh my God.

• 9:33Travis Kelce?

  Put your dick away, Chris.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  I gotta say, how blessed you are to even be able to describe it as though your dick fell out. Cause I don't even think I could describe that adjective for mine. I don't think it could fall anywhere.

• 9:54Speaker 05

  We gotta get those things.

• 9:55Travis Kelce?

  That's some good shit, man. Oh, that's some good shit. Hey, man, what have you been thinking about the kids, man? Put that shit away. That shit is fucking hilarious.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  That is crazy. Like, what would be going? I mean, I guess that is what's going through your head. You're like, oh, my gosh. There's kids watching. There's families here. I mean, that had to be crazy.

• 10:13Travis Kelce?

  Quoted to Sports Illustrated, 2017, my dick came out. I looked down and the Hummer is out.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  The Hummer. Man.

• 10:24Travis Kelce?

  So, you're the greatest, man. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

• 10:28Speaker 05

  We got the man, the best, Mr. Rob Gondkowski, baby.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  What was it like meeting Tom? Do you remember the first time you met him? Like?

• 10:41Speaker 08

  Oh, yes, I do. So, I was in the training room getting my, uh, my foot taped and, uh, my ankles taped or whatever. And, uh, he comes up. He's like, hey, I'm Tom. And I was like, I was like, oh.

• 10:51Speaker 01

  No way.

• 10:53Speaker 08

  I was like, I gotta play it cool, too. I was like, I'm just gonna introduce myself. I'm not gonna be like, oh, big fan or anything. I was like, hey, I'm Rob, man. But it was just hilarious. Like, yeah, Tom, my guy, I know you're Tom, dude. Like, I'm in the facility. It's not like I'm meeting you somewhere else either. Like, I'm in the football facility. And then, and then what was funny is like a couple of years later, new rookies came in and he still did it to new rookies. And I was just sitting there watching like their reaction. And they're like, they all get confused. You're like, he just introduced himself as Tom.

• 11:28Speaker 08

  It was a good scene to see.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's how you know you're a next level superstar when you introduce yourself by your name and everybody's like, "Yeah, uh, we, we know who you are, man. You don't gotta say that anymore."

• 11:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, is there, so, I don't know, what led to you guys having like such great chemistry? Is it, was it just, you know, were you guys on the same wavelength? Uh, was it practice? Was it all the above?

• 11:52Speaker 08

  Oh, yeah. I mean, definitely not the same wavelength at first. I mean, at first I thought he was out of control, man. I was like, this dude, this dude crazy like, like, I just never.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  Really?

• 12:02Speaker 08

  Yeah, I never seen anyone.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  In what way?

• 12:04Speaker 08

  Like, I like, like, like a dickhead, like, kind of. I was like, he's like a coach. Like, like, this isn't like my buddy, you know, like, you're going into,

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 08

  You're expecting it to be that, what's that movie with, uh, Jamie Foxx as the quarterback?

• 12:17Travis Kelce?

  Sunday, Any Given Sunday, baby.

• 12:20Speaker 08

  Sunday, like, uh, that's in my mind, that's what I was expecting. That's what I was.

• 12:27Travis Kelce?

  I'm right there with you.

• 12:27Speaker 08

  Like, that's how I lived my first couple of years in the NFL, too. Like, that's what I wanted. Like, the movie's tricked you. Like, you think, you think every time.

• 12:35Travis Kelce?

  Every time.

• 12:36Speaker 08

  So, I'm like, no, this isn't anything like Any Given Sunday. Like, I'm like, this guy, this guy's fucking yelling at me. I mess up just a tad bit and the dude's yelling at me, like, get over there, like a coach. He's yelling at me more. And, um, and then it took me a little bit, you know, to, to realize like what, where it was coming from and, and what the love was for. And I, I kind of felt like he was more hard on me at first because I think he saw some talent in me, man. I think he saw the opportunity that I had that was presented in front of me. And, uh, every single day, man, after practice, he would make me stay. He would make me and like two other rookies stay and he'd be like, we're getting on the same page. And, uh, he'd be throwing pass after pass, route after route. I'm like, man, I just took first team. I took second team and I took that.

• 13:20Travis Kelce?

  Every year, reps ain't no fucking joke.

• 13:22Speaker 08

  And they keep everyone after the rookies and like second year players. Um, what's that called again?

• 13:28Travis Kelce?

  The mini camp, the rookie mini camp?

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, rookie mini camp.

• 13:31Speaker 08

  No, no, no, after practice, they bring, they bring over the guy like to the other side of the field. Like say it's joint training camp and like.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  We, yeah, we.

• 13:38Travis Kelce?

  That might be the, that might be the Patriot way.

• 13:40Speaker 08

  No, no, it was everywhere. It was like fundamentals or something. It was called like.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, we call it, we call it developmental. That's what we call it.

• 13:45Speaker 08

  Yeah, that one or something. And I did all that too. And then he'd be like, no, you're staying after. And then boom, I'd be running 10 routes with him after the practice too. Um, and then he would be calling me in the meetings, this is how I want you to run the route. This, I don't ever want you to go around the guy here. Like it's a flag route. He goes, get outside of the guy when you run a corner. If you go inside, guess what? I'm never throwing you the ball. Uh, he just, he was just always telling me the placement where he wanted to me to be. But I had so much going on that I fricking, I fricking couldn't get it all down. Like, I'm like, okay, I get, I get it. You want me there, but like, I can't get there. Like I just, I'm thinking way too much. When you're thinking, you're losing already. And I'm just thinking like.

• 14:22Travis Kelce?

  Right, ties the feet up.

• 14:23Speaker 08

  But, uh, and then after that, it kind of clicked.

• 14:25Travis Kelce?

  He caught you up to speed.

• 14:26Speaker 08

  Yeah, he caught me up to speed. His speed was ridiculous when you, when I first got there. And then after a couple more practices, you know, going throughout the year, training camp, about halfway through my rookie season, everything started clicking. I was like, oh, all right. Like this is what he wants. Uh, this is where he wants me to be. Uh, this is how he wants me to run the route and everything. And then going into my second year, I was ready for it. I was like, oh shit. I got this game down to a science now. Not like too deep, but I got it down. And then we worked in the off season and then going into training camp, just after practice every day. Yo, let's go. Uh, let's get on the same page.

• 15:00Travis Kelce?

  You were getting, you were getting on him? Did, was there ever a day he forgot and you were like, hey, yo, Tom, we gotta throw?

• 15:05Speaker 08

  Yeah, no, no, no, I never said that.

• 15:09Speaker 08

  The day he forgot, I said, oh, I was like, oh, I was like, oh, thank you. His kids are here. Cause then he would run over to his kids. I'm like, oh, thank you, kids.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  Please welcome Mr. Matthew Stafford.

• 15:22Speaker 09

  Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. That's a hell of an intro. I need you in game.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  You played with two of the best D tackles in this decade plus of football and Aaron Donald and in Dominic Sue.

• 15:34Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  Who frightens you more as a quarterback?

• 15:40Speaker 09

  You know, spent more, I probably played more, I don't know, it might be kind of close. I was gonna say I played more games against Aaron Donald than I did Sue, but I played quite a few against Sue there, kind of at the end. I would say having, you know, experience with both AD is, it was, it was a different deal.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 15:57Speaker 09

  Cause there was like, the get off was crazy. I mean, he just wrecked practices. Sue was that way too, in a lot of instances and was a great player for us in Detroit and then, you know, bounced around and had some unbelievable seasons at other places too, but

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 16:10Speaker 09

  AD was, uh, that was something different. Um, just watching him go about his job every single day. I remember like the third practice, I was there in training camp, we have no pads on, and we're in a quick game, I'm throwing a hitch to the field and I smash my thumb

• 16:24Speaker 01

  On his helmet.

• 16:25Speaker 09

  And I'm like, yo, I just caught the ball. It's like, catch, throw, bang. And I'm like, and next thing you know, everybody had the guardian caps on. Next to have a thumb, you know, but it was, uh, but he was, he was crazy in his ability. And I would say the respect that he got from offensive lines and other, and other offenses was something I've never seen before.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, we treated him differently than any other defensive tackler that we ever played in. And Sue was, the rea, I think Sue was like almost, he like wanted to kill somebody.

• 16:54Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Where AD wanted to kill somebody too, but it was like a different level of intensity.

• 16:58Speaker 09

  I agree.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  AD, though, his like motor, it was every single snap, every single play, you could not take a play off. And he never took a play off. He was running, I don't know how he had that kind of conditioning.

• 17:08Speaker 09

  It was

• 17:09Speaker 01

  To this day.

• 17:09Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  The combinedness of like his athleticism is like explosive in strength.

• 17:16Speaker 09

  And he was a smart player too. Yeah, he's a smart player. Like, I mean, he knew, like, you talk to him, like, I get in the, you know, cafeteria and you sit there and you talk to him and he's like, yeah, I knew if I wasn't doubled, if the center didn't come to me, it's run away.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:27Speaker 09

  Because the center comes to me every pass play.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:30Speaker 09

  And if a center comes to me, it's pass or it's run two.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:33Speaker 09

  Center goes away, like, you're not, not blocking me with two. So he knew it was run away and then he's shooting a backside gap. I mean, like, he It was just like, could make decisions and go like that, that quickly. For sure. It was, uh, it was impressive to be around him and, and watch him work. I mean, the way he worked out. We had a, um, I'll never forget, and he was crazy in the weight room. Oh, I know what? Like The Rock came in and worked out with him one time and they're freaking just... Night fighting? Yeah, I mean, he's like, he's a maniac in the weight room, right? And, uh, I'll never forget, this was 21 or 22 maybe? Yeah. We had like, a Make-A-Wish kid who had, like, a year before, had been like, hey, I wanna, my dream is to go like,

• 18:11Speaker 09

  be with Aaron Donald for a day, kinda thing. And thankfully, this kid at that point, had kinda beaten the odds and had beaten the cancer that he had, I believe, and like, was really on the mend. And it was really cool. Like, he came in and you're like, oh man, this guy's like, doing good, right? High school kid, like, bigger kid, uh, like, loved to play football. And AD was like, cool, come work out with me, right? And I'm like, I'm walking by, I'm like, yo, what is about to...

• 18:33Travis Kelce?

  What's about to go down?

• 18:34Speaker 09

  Yeah, right? And I look over, and like, I'm over there doing like, banded something, and like, 30 minutes in, and AD's just ripping curls out. And this, and this, next thing you know, this kid is puking in the trash can. Oh, fucking god! And I'm like, AD, can you please, like, have a little coot, a little understanding, like?

• 18:50Travis Kelce?

  The kid got what he wanted.

• 18:53Speaker 09

  You wanna be AD?

• 18:54Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, you wanna be.

• 18:55Speaker 09

  Yeah. He was on chemo for months, AD. I'm like, god, can we just relax on the bicep curls for a little bit? It's like, how many do we do till we throw up? You know what I mean? It was just like, unbelievable. I was like, this guy has no, I mean, the motor just never stops, man. It was incredible.

• 19:14Travis Kelce?

  I remember it was my first time playing in LA against the Rams, and it was a preseason game. And I'm num- I'm number three, closest to the line, we're running all-go special, it's covered two, or at least I see two high. And I'm thinking, I'm just right at the hash.

• 19:26Speaker 09

  Yep.

• 19:27Travis Kelce?

  And I take off, and I'm like, man, I'm just gonna fucking dig for my first, like, five to 10 yards. And by the time I got to the, like, five yards downfield, I felt something throw me to the numbers. And I got up out of that play, like, fucking, like, a little dazed. I'm like, what in the fuck was that? And I watched it on film, and it was AD coming from the backside B gap and just fucking smoked me.

• 19:50Speaker 09

  Oh, I believe it.

• 19:51Travis Kelce?

  Cause there was a blitz from the other side. And I was just like, what the fuck? I had never felt like, more of like... Like the lightest thing in the, yeah. I had never moved that fast before ever in my life by anybody.

• 20:03Speaker 09

  I remember we were, I was in Detroit. We're playing a game against the Rams and there was St. Louis still at that point. Jim Bob was our coordinator and you know, I dropped back to pass late in the game. We need to play. And Aaron, I have two hands on the ball, right? Like this. And Aaron just comes up from behind me and just rips both my biceps apart. The ball falls down the ground. And I'm like, I'm looking at him and I'm like, I come over to the sideline. I'm like, I mean, I'm pissed and I'm like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. He's like, you gotta find a way to hold on to it. I'm like, go fuck yourself, man. Do you think I'm gonna be able to hold on to this? This is monster. Like this and like kindly separated my arms. He's like, I'll take the ball. What do I do? Like,

• 20:40Speaker 01

  Oh, is that what I was supposed to do? Hold on to it. Got it.

• 20:44Speaker 09

  That's how this works.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  I was with Jim Bob. I'll never forget when he came up. I, we will probably cut this.

• 20:53Travis Kelce?

  You gotta tell it though.

• 20:54Speaker 09

  Tell it anyways.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  So I'm sitting there. We had just hired Nick Sirianni and Shane Steichen and Jim Bob was on the staff. I had never met Jim Bob.

• 21:01Speaker 09

  Oh, yeah.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  I didn't know about him in Detroit, really.

• 21:03Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  He comes up and he says, Hey Jason, my name's Jim Bob Cooter. And I fucking laugh.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Like audibly, like I'm like a giggle.

• 21:16Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 21:16Speaker 01

  And I'm like, oh, that's fucking real. My bad, I'm not one.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Awesome fucking dude.

• 21:25Speaker 09

  He's a great dude. All time name.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  The Time Magazine Athlete of the Year. Miss Katelyn Clark, please welcome everyone.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  We're gonna try the segment. We've never done it. It's probably gonna be very short-lived. It's called Name A Person. We're gonna go around the horn and each name an athlete from Iowa until we can't anymore.

• 21:52Speaker 10

  Oh gosh.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  I feel like you're probably not gonna struggle. Can you name current players?

• 21:56Travis Kelce?

  No, no, they just have to be an athlete.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Former players?

• 21:59Travis Kelce?

  Can they be current? No, they can be former. They have to be former.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Have to be former. Can you know of current?

• 22:03Travis Kelce?

  No, they can be, they can be current.

• 22:05Speaker 10

  I'm gonna try to do like NFL current players. See if I can do.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  You might beat us in that too. Travis has like the, actually we both really have the positions. So let's see how it happens. Who's starting?

• 22:18Travis Kelce?

  I'll start. George Kittle.

• 22:19Speaker 10

  I knew that was gonna be the first person he was gonna say.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say Sam Laporta, just to take Travis's answers away from him before.

• 22:27Speaker 10

  I'm gonna go Tyler Linderbaum on the raid.

• 22:29Travis Kelce?

  No, nice, nice. I'm gonna go Claire Kittle.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Tristan Wirfs.

• 22:36Speaker 10

  That's right.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Solid answer.

• 22:38Speaker 10

  The Eagles actually rookie Cooper Dejean.

• 22:41Travis Kelce?

  Oh, nice. N J, what about a little? T J Hakasan.

• 22:47Speaker 10

  Ah, that's right. I always forget about him. What? He's on the Vikings, right?

• 22:50Travis Kelce?

  Yes, yes. He's finally back healthy doing his thing.

• 22:53Speaker 10

  That's awesome.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  I'm gonna get a throwback here. I'm gonna get a throwback, throwback. Robert Gallery.

• 22:58Speaker 10

  His wife actually played basketball at Iowa, too.

• 23:01Travis Kelce?

  Whoa, look at that.

• 23:03Speaker 10

  Yeah, they actually came to quite a few of our games last couple of years. Great people, cool people. Oh, gosh. Okay, let's see. Hmm. Hmm. This is tough.

• 23:13Travis Kelce?

  We stumped her. We stumped her.

• 23:15Speaker 10

  I'm thinking about NFL players.

• 23:19Speaker 10

  I'm gonna go Gino Stone. I think he, I think he's on the Bengals. I'm pretty sure he had a pick six this past week.

• 23:24Travis Kelce?

  Oh, all right, all right. I'll tell you, all right, we respect, we respect Gino. I'm gonna go a little Chiefs, uh, tight end. When I first got to Kansas City, Tony Moiaki. My dog, my Chi-town brother. Shout out to Timo, man.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  I'm gonna go, um, another former teammate, Julian Vanderville, E. Julian Vanderville.

• 23:49Speaker 10

  Did anybody say Dallas Clark?

• 23:51Travis Kelce?

  No, the legend.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  I was holding on to that one.

• 23:53Travis Kelce?

  No gloves, no gloves.

• 23:55Speaker 10

  The man.

• 23:56Travis Kelce?

  I'll stay in the tight end world over there. Noah Fant.

• 23:59Speaker 10

  That's right. The Seahawks, I think.

• 24:02Travis Kelce?

  Yes, yep. Eight seven over there in Seattle.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  All right, all right. I'm going, I'm gonna go Marshall Yanda.

• 24:09Travis Kelce?

  This dude.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  I'm pulling up the, the old schools.

• 24:15Speaker 10

  I'm gonna go Riley Moss on the Broncos. I'm, I'm going with the younger players. Or in school of me.

• 24:23Travis Kelce?

  Well, I'll show my age and Jason's as well because he was the same recruiting class. He was also a Kansas City Chief. When I got to Kansas City, Ricky Stansy, quarterback Iowa.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Oh, man, this might be where I, um.

• 24:36Travis Kelce?

  This is where it ends.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  This might be, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure Matt Tobin, I'm pretty sure Matt Tobin played for Iowa.

• 24:43Travis Kelce?

  Sure.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  I'm next to positive.

• 24:46Travis Kelce?

  Then you lost. If you're pretty sure you lost.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  All right, we'll end it there. I think we all did very respectfully.

• 24:51Speaker 10

  We did great. I'm impressed.

• 24:53Travis Kelce?

  That was fun. That was fun. I would who would have thought?

• 24:55Speaker 01

  Toad with the I, I knew it, Toad. All right, there we go.

• 24:59Travis Kelce?

  That was a fun one.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  We welcome number 15, Patrick Mahomes, everyone.

• 25:05Speaker 11

  Wow.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  Let's fucking go.

• 25:07Speaker 11

  That was impressive.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  You and Travis are known for having quite the bromance, Pat. I see you guys hanging out all the place. I got to make it out there with Tahoe with you guys one year, but it's such a big bromance that even Brittany is jealous. She tweeted out how jealous she was of your guys' relationship a few weeks ago. What were your honest first impressions of Travis? And vice versa, what were, how did this bromance come together?

• 25:35Speaker 11

  Should I tell them the story, dude?

• 25:37Travis Kelce?

  That's your call, man.

• 25:38Speaker 11

  That's my call. It's a bad look on me, but uh, so obviously I get here at the beginning of the, beginning of the year and I'm, I'm still a rookie. So you know, I'm just kind of going through the motions, trying to figure out the best way to kind of fit in. Um, and I think the first time that I, I thought, I was like, me and Travis are gonna, we're gonna be, we're gonna be connected throughout this, my entire career was, uh, you remember when we had the fourth preseason game? We used to have a little off time. You had like a little weekend. You played on Thursday.

• 26:06Speaker 11

  Well, you know, coach, coach Reed always would give you the, the walkthrough the day before the actual walkthrough. And, um, me being a kid fresh out of college, uh, I had a couple of buddies that were rookies with me and they were like, let's, let's go out Saturday, man. Let's go out. We'll have the walkthrough on Sunday.

• 26:21Travis Kelce?

  We're done with preseason.

• 26:21Speaker 11

  Just got back from St. Joe's. We had a great preseason. Um, so we go out and coach Reed had told us the next day at like eight o'clock, we're gonna have a 15 minute walkthrough done. That's all you have on Sunday. So I'm, I set eight alarms on my phone. I have them all. I go out with the rookies. Of course I get out there and I see old Travis Kelce out at the same spot as I'm at. And I'm like, hey, let's, Travis, Travis like, Travis like, come on, all y'all come to, come over here to the table.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  Let's do this.

• 26:47Speaker 11

  Let's have a great time. So I have a great night, um, get home, uh, have all my alarms set. I made sure of that. Uh, go to sleep, wake up, not to an alarm, uh, wake up, look at the TV. And I see 8:15 on my TV screen on the resting thing.

• 27:05Travis Kelce?

  Oh.

• 27:05Speaker 11

  I didn't put my phone in the charger, so my phone died.

• 27:09Travis Kelce?

  Ah.

• 27:09Speaker 11

  And rookie mistake.

• 27:11Travis Kelce?

  Too many times.

• 27:12Speaker 11

  And so, drive to, so obviously drove to the facility extremely fast. Um, dangerous.

• 27:19Travis Kelce?

  You can't, you can't overlook that initial, that initial feeling of understanding that you're not going to make it there on time is the most like.

• 27:26Speaker 05

  Your heart just drops.

• 27:27Travis Kelce?

  No, no, no, no, no, this isn't happening.

• 27:29Speaker 05

  This isn't happening. Am I dreaming?

• 27:31Travis Kelce?

  And then immedi- immediately you just start telling yourself how uselessly stupid idiot I could you do this. You suck. You idiot, you're so unaccountable, man. You can't, get it together, man.

• 27:43Speaker 11

  And then, uh, to complete the story, I, I get there and I get to the facility and we're, they're already in the walkthrough, obviously already going. And I walk up to the door and like how the Chiefs facility is built, the defense does on the first side of the field and the offense is on the other side. And I was like, there is no chance. I'm walking through the defense late to get to the offense side of the walkthrough.

• 28:04Travis Kelce?

  I ain't going out there, man.

• 28:05Speaker 11

  Meanwhile, we're playing the Super Bowl champs, uh, the, the Patriots, like the, on opening night that week. Um, and so I sit in the locker room and I'm just sitting there shaking my head and they called me up to the office and I'm getting like the max fine, all this different stuff. Feel like an idiot. And all, and I just, I thought it was so weird that the first question they asked me was, were you with Travis?

• 28:25Travis Kelce?

  Haha.

• 28:26Speaker 11

  And I was like, no, no, not at all. Why would you even ask that? And, uh, long story short, uh, Travis was also late. He got there five minutes before me.

• 28:38Travis Kelce?

  Oh, fuck dude. I'm sitting here, dude, I'm coming into the building like, fuck, man, I can't believe I fucking screwed this up again, man. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm not going to say I'm notorious for late, but I screwed up a few times before and have been late. So I'm in my head about it. I'm like, man, Coach Reese is gonna kill me, man. I'm, I can't even look at this guy and his eyes. I'm gonna should be looking down at the ground while he tells me I'm the worst teammate ever, man. And I walk into the building and they're like, were, were you with Pat last night? Where's Pat at? I was just like.

• 29:08Travis Kelce?

  I'm not alone. Let's go, man. At that point, I knew we were teammates, man. I knew that guy was gonna win the Super Bowl.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  I did that together, baby.

• 29:19Speaker 11

  I will say, since then, though, I believe me and Travis have never been late again. So we have been on the straight and narrow since then. So I won't be late again. I don't know about Travis.

• 29:29Travis Kelce?

  I can't, I can't. I don't think, I don't think Coach Reed will stand me ever being late again. So I have to, I'd make sure I get my ass up and go in early, man.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  I was late one time in college. Do you remember the college rule? In Cincinnati, if you were late for the Friday morning lift, they would make you, the whole team do stadium steps.

• 29:50Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  Until the guy showed up and they would take somebody to go get him.

• 29:54Speaker 11

  Oh, my gosh.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  I woke up, same thing, realized I was late, in my street clothes, went straight into the stadium and just started doing stadiums.

• 30:02Travis Kelce?

  Let's go, man.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  They've been for an hour and a half.

• 30:05Travis Kelce?

  This is how bad I was.

• 30:06Speaker 11

  Your teammates can respect that, though. Your teammates are like, this guy cares.

• 30:09Travis Kelce?

  No, he's, he feels bad about it. He's doing it in Timberlands. It's sweet. I was, I remember, I used to, I used to do, what is it? I used to have like a psychological, like, yeah, man, I mean, time is time, you know? Back in, back in college, like, I wasn't really pressed about being late. So I would show up late or something like that and I would get told I gotta be at that five, five o'clock stadium step run. And I would fuck, I would be ready. Like, I would be, that was the only thing I was on time for. And just like Rocky Balboa, that shit, just like sprint the fuck out of them and just be like, I'm getting better today, baby. So they stopped making me run stadium steps and started making me push pennies on like the, the weight room

• 30:51Travis Kelce?

  floor, which is not a slippery surface. You know what I mean? Yeah, I had to push penny with my finger and I wasn't allowed to.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  I've heard of plate pushes.

• 30:58Travis Kelce?

  No, dude.

• 30:58Speaker 01

  I've never heard of penny pushes.

• 30:59Travis Kelce?

  Pennies against a weight room floor. And I had to do it in a figure eight and I wasn't allowed to be on like my knees or like laying down.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  You're like bear crawling, essentially.

• 31:07Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I had to stand up.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  That sounds terrible.

• 31:11Travis Kelce?

  Dude, couldn't get hyped for that one. So they, they beat me on that one.

• 31:13Speaker 11

  The sickest thing I've done in college was, we, yeah, have you done like the rolls where you like, you have to get like this, this barrel roll across the field? Everybody's just throwing that the entire time.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Yes, terrible.

• 31:23Speaker 11

  Well, my first punishment, it was a team punishment for everybody was missing class. They, Kingsbury had us do that, but he played, uh, get your roll on, which like.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Everybody get your roll on.

• 31:34Speaker 11

  He played it for like thirty minutes straight. Everybody's just rolling and throwing up. I'm like, this is just psychological warfare by Coach Kingsbury out here at Texas Tech.

• 31:43Travis Kelce?

  That's good stuff.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  When you hear that song to this day, do you have like Pavlov's dog? Like, are you like immediately?

• 31:48Speaker 11

  No, I hate it. I hate it immediately. All I can think about is how sick I was that Wednesday morning at four thirty before class.

• 31:56Travis Kelce?

  That boy's stomach starts turning over, man. That's good shit.

• 32:00Speaker 01

  The ever talented Mr. Jalen Hurts. Jalen, thank you for joining us.

• 32:06Speaker 12

  Glad to be here, mate.

• 32:08Travis Kelce?

  So, uh...

• 32:08Speaker 01

  He's gonna make fun of me right here.

• 32:10Travis Kelce?

  What? What do you mean?

• 32:11Speaker 12

  How you know it's coming?

• 32:12Travis Kelce?

  You made fun of yourself by doing this shit. Don't put it on me. Jason had a bad snap and gave you a forced fumble, man. He put it all on you last week, dog. First of all, have you ever had that happen?

• 32:25Travis Kelce?

  Have you ever had that happen where you're in shotgun and a center thinks you're under center?

• 32:30Speaker 01

  No, no, that wasn't what happened.

• 32:32Speaker 12

  I don't think that's what happened.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  Not last week?

• 32:34Speaker 12

  Well, we're...

• 32:35Travis Kelce?

  Oh, you just...

• 32:36Speaker 12

  We're on the same side.

• 32:38Travis Kelce?

  Oh, shit. Alright.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  I snapped it when he wasn't calling for the ball.

• 32:43Speaker 12

  I wasn't ready.

• 32:44Travis Kelce?

  I knew you were in shotgun. You were in shotgun, yeah.

• 32:46Speaker 12

  But, um, yeah, it's...

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Snapped it early.

• 32:48Speaker 12

  So, he has a very unique way of snapping the ball. He...

• 32:52Speaker 01

  It's a very nice way of saying every quarterback that I've ever played with hates how I snap the ball.

• 32:59Travis Kelce?

  Is it getting to you quick?

• 33:00Speaker 12

  Fast. It's up on you.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Hey, Nolan Ryan in the center right here.

• 33:05Speaker 12

  People always ask me, why, um, why's your stance so low? I'm like, I gotta be in an athletic position. They want sports to catch the ball when it's coming, you know, but...

• 33:15Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:15Speaker 12

  I mean, because I remember my rookie year when I came in, like I'd come in, I have a couple of plays here and out throughout the game.

• 33:22Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:22Speaker 12

  And, um, it was like a couple, like I literally had maybe a handful. It was like, I'd go in there and foam with a snack because I just wasn't ready, like I wasn't in the position, you know what I'm saying?

• 33:31Speaker 01

  Some of them were bad snaps.

• 33:33Speaker 12

  But, uh, but yeah, I ain't tripping, buddy. He make all, he do his thing, you know what I'm saying? He do his thing, ain't tripping.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  I mean, really, I'd snap it fast. And I'd snap it fast because I want my hand back. That's about it. I got stuff to do.

• 33:49Travis Kelce?

  You gotta use these, it's not 1940 where you can't use those hands. You can, you can actually put them on somebody.

• 33:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, you know, my, my advantage of like my skillset is quickness, right? So I want to get up on the guy quick. I want to be able to get into proper leverage because I'm not going to out muscle nobody. So just snap fast.

• 34:08Speaker 12

  All right, I have no complaint.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  The plus side is you got more time to make a decision if it's in the right spot.

• 34:17Speaker 12

  Well, I try, like I said, I try and put myself like if I have to squat a little lower to catch it. I ain't tripping about it. He always, he always asks me like, how was that snap? Or if something, if there's like an inmate in the backfield or something like that, he's like, kind of like, I know he's, he's thinking about it. If he snapped it good or not, I'm like, hey, you good, baby?

• 34:37Travis Kelce?

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• 34:40Speaker 01

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• 34:45Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 34:55Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  My mouth specifically?

• 34:59Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 35:10Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, all the nasty stuff. But the good news is you can prevent these problems before they start with Colgate Total Active Prevention. It's like having a good offensive line for your mouth.

• 35:21Travis Kelce?

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• 35:29Speaker 01

  And it's not just one contributing player either. It's a whole system, toothpaste, mouthwash, and a special toothbrush.

• 35:37Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 35:39Speaker 01

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• 35:47Travis Kelce?

  Get Colgate Total on Amazon today.

• 35:51Speaker 01

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• 35:53Travis Kelce?

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• 35:58Speaker 01

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• 36:04Travis Kelce?

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• 36:12Speaker 01

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• 36:17Travis Kelce?

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• 36:23Speaker 01

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• 37:11Speaker 01

  All right. You're also pro taunting.

• 37:14Speaker 14

  I am pro taunting, yeah.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  So am I. What, why are you pro taunting?

• 37:17Speaker 14

  We're all grown adults that work really hard at what we do, and sometimes we like to show it. I'm not going to get my feelings hurt if somebody sacks me and taunts me. Like, you made a play, I didn't. Like, good for you, you're allowed to taunt.

• 37:31Travis Kelce?

  Have you ever gotten the taunting flag?

• 37:33Speaker 14

  I've never got a taunting flag.

• 37:35Travis Kelce?

  How many you got?

• 37:38Travis Kelce?

  At what level of football?

• 37:39Speaker 01

  He's throwing a flag.

• 37:41Speaker 05

  I did, yo, that's my favorite one.

• 37:45Speaker 14

  You can get a little feisty out there.

• 37:47Speaker 01

  Just a wee bit.

• 37:49Travis Kelce?

  Trav gonna talk that shit. Anger management, and I talk entirely too much. I do. Actually, one of my favorite taunting penalties that I got. Yes, I do have favorites. We were playing the Eagles, uh, my first time playing it actually on the field against the Eagles in Kansas City.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  In KC, you won the Super Bowl. We did lose that game.

• 38:10Travis Kelce?

  Yes, that was the last game you guys lost that year. So we played them and, uh, sure enough, it's a low-scoring game. We could have moved the ball too well on them. Uh, Smitty handed that thing off to Kareem Hunt. And it was me and Brandon Graham talking shit the entire game.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  BG talks major shit.

• 38:27Travis Kelce?

  He will. It was before I knew BG all like that. And then, um, sure enough, he, uh, he got, he got a little wind, you know, they, they, they, they come in like hockey subs on the defensive line.

• 38:36Speaker 15

  Yeah, it's some bullshit.

• 38:37Travis Kelce?

  And, um, sure enough, he went off for a play. I hemmed up the D, D lineman that came in for him on, uh, on one back power, which if you guys don't believe I can block, I block.

• 38:46Speaker 14

  You were, I was gonna say, you were blocking?

• 38:48Travis Kelce?

  I was, and I did my job. And, um, I felt so good that I thought I'd run over to the sideline and tell Brandon Graham to bring his ass back out here.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  Hey, what happened?

• 38:59Travis Kelce?

  Well, I got a flag for going to the sideline, talking to the sideline. You can't do that, kids. Um, and then Brandon Graham continued to throw me around for the rest of the game.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  BG, little pit bull. Do you, who's, uh, who's the best shit talker that you played? You already talked about Fletcher Cox, you're welcome to the NFL, BG's known for. Is there anybody else that's really up there for you?

• 39:24Speaker 14

  Not really.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  No?

• 39:25Speaker 14

  No.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  That's fair. What about you, Orlando?

• 39:28Travis Kelce?

  You come, uh, you played against, uh, Max Crosby, right?

• 39:32Speaker 14

  Yeah, he wasn't talking when we played him though.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  Oh, Max, what are we doing?

• 39:36Speaker 14

  I'm pretty nice to the defensive line.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Smart.

• 39:38Speaker 14

  So, it's, people aren't really talking to me like that because I'll just be like.

• 39:42Travis Kelce?

  Joe gets it.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Hey, good play, man.

• 39:44Speaker 14

  Nice play, man. I'm not trying to get hit like that.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Smart guy, smart guy.

• 39:49Speaker 15

  My, uh, I would have to say biggest shit talkers. He's at the, he's on, I've, you know, I've played with him at the one, at the top of my list. I, I got a story for him too, but, um. BG. Yeah. And then our guy Trey Henderson. Oh, yeah. Yeah, holy shit. Shout out Trey, man. Love it. What a bad man. Yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. But Trav's gonna talk that shit. We were, we were playing Denver one time, Sunday night. And um, he comes in motion. This is mid cadence. Why ain't he, why? He comes in motion, back and forth. And my DN's wearing goggles. And he, as he comes back across the guard, he looks at the DN, he says, man, you got on fucking goggles? Oh, this guy's got on fucking goggles. Why ain't he?

• 40:32Speaker 15

  I'm like, man, this is a Trav, Trav, Trav gonna talk, he gonna talk that talk, man. Guy couldn't even fucking see.

• 40:41Speaker 15

  Blind as a bat.

• 40:44Speaker 05

  You know him as the big Shamrock, the big Aristotle. Oh, yeah. The Superman, Shaq this, the day's all we got him.

• 40:53Speaker 16

  AKA. Shaq. AKA the black Kelty brother.

• 41:00Travis Kelce?

  You got a favorite dunk of all time?

• 41:02Speaker 16

  My favorite dunk of all time was two of them. And I actually just seen this dude the other day, Chris Dudley. And he looked at me and I was like, are you trying to fight or are you trying to give me a hug? He started laughing, started not getting hugs.

• 41:13Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 41:14Speaker 16

  I took it as a sign of respect when you didn't double me. So I'm back and I don't even know who's on me, like, you know, that switch, I'm like, I know this ain't fucking Chris Dudley. So I take one little dribble to double still like I'm, I tell you, no, he's trying to.

• 41:28Speaker 16

  So I'm like, I take one dribble, like, the fuck? I take two dribble. I even carry on the second, I was like, oh, these motherfuckers not coming? Now I gotta take that and then just drop step and then boom. And like, he was all on me and I was like, fuck off, man.

• 41:45Speaker 16

  And, and, and then my second favorite dunk was game seven. Portland is kicking our ass, you know, kicking our ass. So we come to the timeout in the fourth quarter and Phil Jackson, him and I told you, he used to like mine, play with your bonds.

• 41:58Travis Kelce?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:59Speaker 16

  All right, guys, great year. They're kicking your ass. I'll see you next year. So now we're like Kobe's pissed, he said it. I'm pissed, he said, I'm like, man, fuck that. Let's go on a little run.

• 42:08Travis Kelce?

  Legendary quote, man.

• 42:09Speaker 16

  Kobe's in Kobe mode. He's getting to the hole and two people, three people, he don't care. He's know he has to score. And I'm telling him the whole time, hey, man, that fucking lob is open. All right, all right. Hey, man, that lob is open, so. We made kinda eye eye contact. I won't say he winked at me, but he looked at me and he crosses Scottie up at the top of the key. You know what? I'm not gonna even talk about the clip. Here it is right here.

• 42:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:33Travis Kelce?

  Brandon, don't you fuck that up.

• 42:36Speaker 16

  Yeah.

• 42:36Speaker 05

  That'd be on your shit, Brandon.

• 42:38Travis Kelce?

  That was, but that was like the, the backdoor oop, the spinoff of it and the go, man, iconic.

• 42:43Speaker 16

  No, no, that, that was the one where he crossed Scottie up and he got in the middle lane and he threw the motherfucker up too high. And I had to go get it.

• 42:49Speaker 05

  Oh, here it goes. Oh, welcome, Brandon. Okay, Brandon.

• 42:53Speaker 16

  Right there, throwing up Kobe, throwing up Kobe.

• 42:55Speaker 05

  Ah.

• 42:58Speaker 16

  Yeah, Kobe, good pass. Yes, sir, that one right there.

• 43:02Travis Kelce?

  That place is fucking rocking. Oh, my God.

• 43:06Speaker 16

  Cause I kept telling, I was like, yo, man, the lob is there. He was like, cause, cause listen, one thing, one thing about Kobe, when, when Kobe gets in killer mode, don't fucking talk to him. Like, he not trying to hit nothing like, he knows he's in attack mode, he's gonna score first or anything. I'm like, yo, man, that lob is there. All right. Yo, Kobe, the lob is there. All right. Motherfucker, I said the lob is there. Yeah, all right. And then like he at the top of the key, he gives me one of those things right there and I'm like, huh?

• 43:29Travis Kelce?

  Huh?

• 43:30Speaker 16

  Is this it? And then, and, and then when he threw it up, the motherfucker threw it up too high. I had to fucking go, I was like, ah, go, go, go. And then, and then, you know, as you see, I didn't catch it. Like, I just, I, I, I said to myself, I said to myself, I'll get my hands on it, just fucking punch it through. Play it again, Brandon. I mean, it wasn't really a clean catch. Hurry up, Brandon. Play it one more time, Brandon.

• 43:54Travis Kelce?

  He's not ready. He's not ready.

• 43:56Speaker 16

  Come on, Brandon. Look, right here. See, he backs it right there, right there. He said, okay, boy, yeah, see that hand? That's the same, that one. And he threw it and I just fucking slapped it through. Yeah, I just slapped it through.

• 44:10Travis Kelce?

  It's fucking electric.

• 44:12Speaker 05

  Please welcome Philadelphia Eagle, Saquon Barkley. Here we go.

• 44:20Speaker 17

  I need to, I wish, uh, I gotta have you two around. I need more intros like that, you know?

• 44:25Travis Kelce?

  Could an average person gain one yard on a rushing play in the NFL?

• 44:32Speaker 17

  Yeah.

• 44:32Travis Kelce?

  The average person? Look at Jets Jake right now.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Jets Jake, come on camera so we can see what you look like.

• 44:41Travis Kelce?

  Jets, come on, come on up here.

• 44:44Speaker 17

  I probably gotta say yes now, I'm just dissing, I'm just dissing him, right?

• 44:49Travis Kelce?

  There's no hard feelings here, he's a Jets guy himself as well.

• 44:54Speaker 17

  Do you play any ball betting in your day?

• 44:55Speaker 11

  No.

• 44:57Travis Kelce?

  There we go.

• 44:58Speaker 17

  If you had a like run of 40 right now, like under six seconds?

• 45:00Speaker 11

  No chance.

• 45:01Speaker 17

  No chance, so you're just, you're not helping the cause at all.

• 45:04Speaker 11

  No, not at all.

• 45:05Travis Kelce?

  How's your vision?

• 45:06Speaker 17

  What's a play?

• 45:07Speaker 11

  Forty three, twenty four.

• 45:07Speaker 17

  What's it like, what's it?

• 45:08Travis Kelce?

  Twenty twenty vision, that's a start.

• 45:10Speaker 17

  What's the play? I got, I can't like, actually, I gotta say, there's a game I had against the New York Jets. I had 13 carries and one rushing yard.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Holy cow.

• 45:21Speaker 17

  And I would say I'm a pretty good running back.

• 45:23Travis Kelce?

  At least you got one.

• 45:24Speaker 17

  So you're probably, probably not getting, yeah, yeah, average person's probably not getting one yard.

• 45:29Travis Kelce?

  And he's out, alright.

• 45:31Speaker 17

  Had to think that one through.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  I think about it sometimes, cause like if any, like if a guard in the tackle destroy a double team, like anybody could probably get a yard. But you gotta think about how slow it's gonna take them to get to the hole.

• 45:43Travis Kelce?

  He ain't getting it.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  And how fast everything changes, right?

• 45:47Travis Kelce?

  I'm told his best.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  Oh gosh.

• 45:50Speaker 17

  They wouldn't even know like-

• 45:51Speaker 01

  If the average guy's Jets Jake.

• 45:53Speaker 17

  If it's outside zone, no shot.

• 45:55Travis Kelce?

  Was that a shot? My bad Jake, I love you. You're above average in my, in my heart.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Above average person.

• 46:02Travis Kelce?

  Way above average person.

• 46:03Speaker 17

  That's what matters.

• 46:04Travis Kelce?

  We don't, we don't, yeah.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Who can squat more, you or Jalen Hurts?

• 46:15Travis Kelce?

  Ooh.

• 46:15Speaker 17

  That's not even close.

• 46:17Travis Kelce?

  You think it's not even close? Ja- Jalen, Jalen's got you?

• 46:21Speaker 17

  No.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  That what?

• 46:22Speaker 17

  No. I'm like, I don't do that no more, I don't do that no more, but like, when I'm in my, when I was like really in that mindset of squatting and like squat off, I'll put myself up there with a lot of people.

• 46:34Speaker 01

  I'm watching this clip of- Say Quan squatting 585 right now.

• 46:39Travis Kelce?

  Was that in college?

• 46:40Speaker 17

  Nah, that was last year.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  No, this is the pros.

• 46:41Travis Kelce?

  Damn!

• 46:42Speaker 01

  And it's not even remotely difficult.

• 46:44Speaker 17

  I don't, I don't, uh, like, I don't max out anymore, like, stuff like that. Like, that's like, when you, those days are one of those days where it's like, you're like, oh, let's just push the fucking needle a little bit. Like, let's put something on you and try it, yeah.

• 46:56Travis Kelce?

  Just put a car on our back.

• 46:57Speaker 17

  Jalen Strong, for, he probably the strongest quarterback in the NFL you could squat, ever.

• 47:03Travis Kelce?

  He's squatting 600 pounds.

• 47:03Speaker 17

  T- what was T- what was T- what was T- squatting? T- was a bit, pretty big dude. He had to be.

• 47:06Travis Kelce?

  He's a quarterback?

• 47:07Speaker 17

  T- wow.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  Well, you know Jalen, uh, power lifted when he was in high school.

• 47:10Travis Kelce?

  T- I'm a quarterback.

• 47:13Travis Kelce?

  What? I play quarterback.

• 47:14Speaker 17

  Five shots.

• 47:15Speaker 01

  I gotta say.

• 47:16Travis Kelce?

  He moved a tight end. His last.

• 47:18Speaker 17

  Yeah, bring it together, yeah.

• 47:19Travis Kelce?

  His last game was a tight end. That's all I'm saying.

• 47:22Speaker 17

  Fair.

• 47:23Travis Kelce?

  I threw a touchdown in the playoffs, alright now.

• 47:25Speaker 17

  Mm, alright now.

• 47:26Speaker 01

  After watching those two clips, uh, that 585 squat was, was damn impressive.

• 47:30Speaker 17

  Jalen's pretty strong. He don't got, he don't got.

• 47:31Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to T- too. He's my favorite college football player, behind Cam Newton and Reggie Bush.

• 47:38Speaker 17

  I'm a better one squat, like, one rep max too.

• 47:40Travis Kelce?

  Exactly, there is.

• 47:41Speaker 01

  Same.

• 47:42Speaker 17

  Yeah, I'm not like, I'm more of like.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Like, you burn out quick. You're more of like an explosive.

• 47:46Speaker 17

  Put it, put it on, give me the number, sit down and stand the fuck up, like, yeah.

• 47:49Speaker 01

  Do you know what the most, do you know what the most you've ever squatted is?

• 47:53Speaker 17

  The most I probably ever put on my back was in the 600s, but it's college, NFL, I never really got the chance to do, we don't do one rep max, so.

• 48:01Travis Kelce?

  Ran out of bar. Can't put, the weights don't even fit on the bar at that point.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  You got the bands holding it on at that point?

• 48:07Speaker 17

  Yeah, right.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:09Travis Kelce?

  It just looks like a U. Just looks like a U when you pull it off of the rack.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 48:14Travis Kelce?

  You use the Valsalva technique. It's where, Jason.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  You fill up with air. Fill up with air. Hup! You might be.

• 48:23Speaker 17

  And then what?

• 48:24Speaker 01

  Well, listen, I guess when you got quads is, is good as Saquon, you don't need the Valsalva.

• 48:27Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, he's probably, yeah. We had to use everything we could. Uh, every technique that we possibly could. Have you ever, uh, flexed out?

• 48:36Speaker 17

  What does that mean?

• 48:37Travis Kelce?

  Like you like

• 48:40Travis Kelce?

  and then

• 48:40Speaker 17

  And get lightheaded?

• 48:41Travis Kelce?

  Then all of a sudden you get real lightheaded?

• 48:43Speaker 17

  Uh.

• 48:43Travis Kelce?

  Hit the

• 48:44Speaker 17

  And fall?

• 48:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Speaker 17

  Nah, nah, nah, nah.

• 48:46Travis Kelce?

  It's a thing on TikTok.

• 48:47Speaker 17

  Yeah, uh, I never, I haven't, I've got lightheaded before.

• 48:50Travis Kelce?

  One of my favorite segments.

• 48:53Speaker 05

  Ninety-two percenters, please welcome Northeast Ohio's finest, Mr. LeBron James.

• 49:02Speaker 05

  Let's go.

• 49:06Speaker 04

  Oh, my God. Yo, yo, Jason, that might, yo, Jason, that might be the greatest introduction of all time.

• 49:13Travis Kelce?

  Well, you see all these shoes behind me, man. You already know I'm a sneaker head.

• 49:16Speaker 04

  Oh, I know, I know.

• 49:17Travis Kelce?

  Collected them over the years, man. Um, was it always Nike? Uh, you used to wear the T-Max at St. Vincent's St. Mary. I see, I think I seen you wear the, uh, the old Iverson's.

• 49:27Speaker 04

  And

• 49:27Travis Kelce?

  Was it always Nike?

• 49:28Speaker 04

  Trav, no, it was not. It was not always Nike. It was Nike when I was a young kid, when I was a young lad. Obviously, you know, you, you know, I've been in love with Michael Jordan my whole life, so

• 49:38Travis Kelce?

  Come on, man.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  You know, I saw him, uh, Penny Hardaway, you know, Ken Griffey Jr., Bo Jackson. I watched all these unbelievable sports figures. So as a kid growing up, it was Nike. Once I got into the AAU program, started playing basketball, Adidas took us over.

• 49:53Travis Kelce?

  Hmm.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  You know, and it became Adidas. It was Adidas like from seventh, eighth grade to pretty much my junior, senior year. They sponsored us every year. We played in all the Adidas tournaments, big time tournament in Vegas and all over, uh, the United States of America. So it was, it was Adidas. And then my senior year, the process began, the recruitments, the, the Nikes came in and Adidas was still there. Reebok came in.

• 50:20Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 04

  And one, uh, you know, all these companies came in and I took on three, um, pitches. I did Adidas pitch, I did a Reebok pitch, I did a Nike pitch. The best pitch that I got, where I thought I was gonna end up, was actually Reebok at one point.

• 50:39Travis Kelce?

  Reebok?

• 50:40Speaker 04

  I went to their meeting, I went to their meeting, uh, and I sat down across from their CEO and the guys that was running basketball. At the time, I don't know if you guys remember this, but Reebok had the NFL as well.

• 50:53Travis Kelce?

  Yes.

• 50:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:54Travis Kelce?

  That's what it was when I first got in the league.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, they had the NFL as well. So they, you know, they knew my love, they knew my love for, for football as well. So they had all the NFL jerseys, all the Pro Bowl looking jerseys that was gonna be the next year. And I'm sitting across from the table. I'm a senior in high school. I actually have to have, I actually go to, I'm going to back to class the next day. They flew me in. I'm going back to St. Vincent's St. Mary the next day, my senior year. And the guy slides over a check to me at the end of the table. It's me and my mom and Maverick Carter at the end of the table. And he says, if, if you don't go talk to any other companies, this is yours. And I look at it.

• 51:38Speaker 04

  I look at it.

• 51:41Speaker 04

  10 million fucking dollars.

• 51:43Travis Kelce?

  Oh.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  10 million.

• 51:47Travis Kelce?

  Right there as an 18 year old, I was still stealing change out of my dad's fucking piggy bank.

• 51:52Speaker 04

  I was a high school senior, man. They gave me a check for 10 million dollars. And if I promise not to go see anybody else. I told him I need a break. They stepped out. I need to fucking break.

• 52:04Travis Kelce?

  I can't believe it. I can't believe that. Right.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  I sat there.

• 52:07Travis Kelce?

  I need a timeout.

• 52:08Speaker 04

  My mom looked at it and me and my mom, we're living in an apartment and, you know, section eight housing in Akron. I'm going back. I don't have shit, whatever. And my mom looked at me. She said, son, trust your gut. If they're offering you this, then who knows what the other companies may offer you.

• 52:28Travis Kelce?

  Mm hmm. Okay, mom.

• 52:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, ma. She's composed.

• 52:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's super composed. She's like, we ain't got shit already. So it's not like, you know, it changes our life at this moment. Yes, maybe in the future, but I want you to trust your gut and. Do what you think is right. That's awesome advice, man. So they came back in, both. I said, uh, thank you. I will, you know, I will definitely like to continue our conversation, but I would be remiss if I did not take those other pitches from the other companies. I may have cried on the way home.

• 53:05Speaker 05

  Your question, man, I hope I just made the right decision.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  I was like, I could have bought the building that me and my mom was living in for that goddamn money. Man, what? Easily. You already know.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  I got a similar, my, uh, my rookie year or my rookie contract, I'm coming up, I'm redoing my rookie contract and I decide a potential, I'm like, okay, I think I might do this myself. I might forego it, be my own agent, negotiate my own contract. And thankfully, my agents were like, they talked me into like, no, no, we need to, you're gonna want an agent, trust me. They sent over the first offer and I was like, all right, where do we sign? They're like, no, no, no, no.

• 53:40Speaker 01

  We could get it, we could go high, we could go high.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  That's funny as shit.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, that first time you get, get a check like that thrown in front of you is, you never forget.

• 53:50Speaker 04

  You never seen, never seen that many zeros in your life. Never, never, never. Man, that's too funny.

• 53:57Speaker 01

  Have you seen this tweet from 2015? LeBron is 30. This fuckery won't go on for much longer. Thank God.

• 54:09Speaker 04

  Yes, I saw that tweet throughout my, all of my 30s, all of my 30s. And I laughed at it so hard.

• 54:16Speaker 01

  You put it up in the locker? You just put it right there like?

• 54:19Speaker 04

  And you know what? Know what's funny? When I turned 40, the same fucking guy said LeBron turned 40, this fuckery won't go on much longer.

• 54:29Speaker 04

  That fucking goes, man.

• 54:32Speaker 01

  So good. Look at that. That's so good.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. He's gonna be real upset when I turn 50.

• 54:42Speaker 01

  No doubt.

• 54:43Speaker 04

  No doubt. That shit was fucking classic, man.

• 55:03Speaker 18

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• 55:15Travis Kelce?

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• 55:46Speaker 05

  It's the big man, Big Red, Andy Reid is in the building. Coach Reid is with us.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  So we got the draft coming up. So we think we'd start with the draft. You obviously drafted both of us. And I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but I was in the Pro Bowl one year and John Gruden was sitting there. And I think you guys had done a production meeting. And he said, you know, I saw Andy before one of the games. And I said, so you drafted Jason and you drafted Travis? And he said, your response was, I drafted Jason, I drafted Travis. And if there's any other Kelseys out there, I'll draft them too. So I'm asking you right now on the spot, Wyatt, my daughter is three years old. If you're still coaching in 18 years, can we get another Kelsey drafting?

• 56:28Speaker 19

  Absolutely.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:30Travis Kelce?

  You got a why. You got it, baby girl.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  Do you remember what led to me getting drafted? And do you remember, I think we all remember what led to him getting drafted because all three of us were on the phone that day. I guess what's the story behind mine? Mine? And then we'll talk about Travis.

• 56:47Speaker 19

  Yours was real easy. So you're a great player. A little bit undersized. But had tremendous toughness, speed.

• 56:57Speaker 19

  You were smart and dirty tough and so I, you know, that was an easy decision. Yeah. And we needed a center. Yeah. And so you fit in. We just got rid of all that linebacker stuff in you. Gave you the Howard mud and cut you loose. Yeah. This guy, I saw a play against Temple. Yeah. And my son kept telling me, this tight end is unbelievable. Kelsey's brother is like incredible. I mean, you know, he's 265 pounds. He's a beast. There we go, Spence. Then I get him. Was he scouting? I know, but then I get him and he's like 240, but that's okay.

• 57:31Speaker 19

  I remember this. I'm gonna bring it back in memory for you. Game's over. They just destroyed Temple. And I come over to the locker room. You're there. Yep. With your boss. Yep. And he comes walking, beeping out and just giving me the business. Yeah. Like we're long lost friends.

• 57:48Speaker 19

  And I'm going, I'm, deep down, I'm going, if I get my hands on that son of a buck, I am gonna rip his heart.

• 57:56Speaker 19

  But I played along with it. Yeah. Played along with it. Cocky, cocky. Jamie is cocky. Yeah. But, but listen, I, um, I, I knew the roots. I knew the roots. Yeah. So for the first five years, it's been, it was a war. The last five years has been unbelievable. You know, he traveled the country to 50 states, dating 50 girls. I knew this show would be. Catchy Kelsey, yeah. This show would be easy. Yeah, this is nothing compared to that. We named Plavs after it. We've had our fun. And that play has been a hell of a play for us, Coach. No, it has. It has. Constant seven. Not that show though. Not that show. Not a show. We won't rerun that show. I don't think anybody's rerunning that.

• 58:38Speaker 19

  Do you think, so, back to draft night. Does Travis get drafted if you don't, if you hadn't drafted me and knew me already? With the red flags that were kinda out there around him? Yeah, that would have been tough. If you were in the league, I still would have called you. Yeah. Yeah, I would have called you. Somewhere I would have called you and, uh, and checked on him. Just to make sure, cause I had heard the rumors about him. Yeah. What do you think now, having known those rumors and now having coached him for 10 years? Oh. Yeah, so, like I said, for like the first five years, um, those rumors were pretty close. Yeah. For the next five years, they've been awesome.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:15Speaker 19

  I mean, he's, I've watched him blossom into a leader and, I mean, he's always been a great player, but tremendous leader, big heart, teammates love him. You're not the only leader in the family.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know that.

• 59:27Travis Kelce?

  Show your personality, baby.

• 59:28Speaker 19

  That's right.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  That's one of the beautiful things that I think is behind your coaching philosophy is, everybody gets to lead in their own way, and Trav does it his way, I do it mine. I think Travis's personality, he always cares about his teammates, always wants to win. Just a little bit young and trying to have a little bit too much fun, but it's caught up.

• 59:48Travis Kelce?

  Never have too much fun.

• 59:48Speaker 19

  I told, I mean, I told both of you guys, let your personality show.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:53Speaker 19

  He threw the flag at the official.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  That was amazing.

• 59:55Speaker 19

  You picked it up and handed it to him. That's the difference.

• 59:59Speaker 01

  That's an amazing clip. So, I don't even know if we need to ask this, but who did you yell at most, the rookie, me or Travis?

• 1:00:05Speaker 19

  I was, I was hoarse with him.

• 1:00:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. No more boys left.

• 1:00:14Travis Kelce?

  It was every day, baby. But hey, listen, that's how you know, that's how I knew that you saw something in me, though. So, you already know, I never, I never reacted in a bad way, did I?

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  No, no you didn't.

• 1:00:25Travis Kelce?

  I was always ready to just rock and roll, baby.

• 1:00:27Speaker 19

  Yeah, no, you were good with it.

• 1:00:29Travis Kelce?

  You already know, it's all you young guys out there, don't be afraid to get yelled at.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  We gotta ask this, was Trav, Trav is very upset that he wasn't the first tight end drafted his draft year. Was he the first tight end on the Chiefs draft board that year?

• 1:00:45Speaker 19

  He actually was the first one.

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:00:47Speaker 19

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  You're not making this up?

• 1:00:48Speaker 19

  No, no.

• 1:00:49Speaker 01

  In hindsight?

• 1:00:50Speaker 19

  No, we were gonna get him. That's who we wanted.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  That's who you wanted?

• 1:00:52Speaker 19

  That's who we wanted, yeah.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Gosh.

• 1:00:54Speaker 19

  Yeah, John Dorsey was a part of this. I mean, you can double check with John, but it was a slam dunk.

• 1:00:59Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:59Speaker 19

  He was gonna be a Chief.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  I'm here.

• 1:01:07Travis Kelce?

  I'm fired up right now.

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 1:01:08Travis Kelce?

  Let's talk some QBs. When did you know that I wasn't a QB?

• 1:01:13Speaker 19

  Well, there were a couple of different times. If you want to take it, take it back to New York, there was a.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  Just listen, if and don't run the ball.

• 1:01:24Speaker 19

  There you go.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Eighty, he wants, he thought you. He has said to coach you, what you told him, which is do not, Travis, do not throw this ball. You're not making a read. It's either there or you're running.

• 1:01:34Speaker 19

  He wanted to see if he could beat my pump pass and kick.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  It was a good throw. It was a dart.

• 1:01:40Speaker 19

  Yeah.

• 1:01:43Speaker 19

  And then we come back and we've got this play. We called it black pearl and it was a beautiful thing. And we get Tyreek to toss it to Kelce and, and Patrick goes in the end zone and although he almost stepped out of bounds and he should have been deeper, but one corner plays both of them. And your brother, and your brother, I'm not going to talk to him, I'm not going to look at, but your brother Chuck.

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:09Speaker 19

  He got there and it was.

• 1:02:12Speaker 19

  And then, and then hold it. Not only that, so this is like in the first, second quarter. It ruined him the rest of the game.

• 1:02:18Travis Kelce?

  I didn't even want to be there. I didn't even want to be there. Good thing Tyreek had three out of guards.

• 1:02:22Speaker 19

  Now, this guy's got like the best arm ever. And this was like a five yard, not even a five yard, but he could have run it in.

• 1:02:29Travis Kelce?

  It was all bad, man. It was all bad.

• 1:02:30Speaker 19

  But he came back.

• 1:02:31Travis Kelce?

  There are times to charm, baby.

• 1:02:32Speaker 19

  That's right. Came back.

• 1:02:33Travis Kelce?

  There are times to charm in the playoffs.

• 1:02:35Speaker 19

  You need to survive in Philly.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  All right, and that wraps up the best episodes of New Heights. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube to the New Heights channel and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to all episodes of New Heights early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

• 1:02:52Travis Kelce?

  Once again, New Heights, a Wondery show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Follow the show on all social media, at New Heights Show with one S. And once again, we'll see you back here with new episodes on August 27.