Offseason Plans, Wildcard Preview & Matt Damon on Brady, Affleck Bromance & Career Odyssey | EP 174

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Intuit Turbo Tax. Today, we are joined by Hollywood legend Matt Damon! But first, we wrap up the end of the NFL regular season, Travis shares his thoughts on what comes next for the Chiefs and where his mind is at going into the offseason, Jason explains why the Eagles were still right to rest their starters, and we look ahead to Wildcard Weekend with our picks for hottest team, biggest possible upset, and our dark horse Super Bowl contenders. Later, Matt Damon joins the show and we talk about his new movie “The Rip,” find out the dumbest thing he’s ever talked Ben Affleck into, get some info on “The Odyssey,” his thoughts on the Drake Maye/Tom Brady comparisons, his favorite Boston sports memory, get his advice for fellow girl dads, a breakdown of his football skills from “School Ties,” the one thing Michael Jordan demanded on “Air,” the best advice from Tom Hanks, and so much more! Make sure to check out Matt in “The Rip” only on Netflix, January 16th. https://www.netflix.com/title/81915745 Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow You can also listen to new episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. . . . Download the full podcast here: Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMb Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Send something to the New Heights Mailbox. Don’t be weird though. C/O New Heights Productions 135 E OLIVE AVE, BURBANK, CA 91502 Support the show: INTUIT TURBOTAX: Intuit TurboTax: Learn more at https://turbotax.intuit.com/ AMERICAN EXPRESS: The refreshed Platinum card is here. Learn more at https://americanexpress.com/withplatinum. Terms apply. KFC: Presented by KFC. KFC $5 Bowls. 5 different bowls to fill up 5 different ways. Prices and participation may vary. Tax, tip, and fees extra. THE PITT: Starring Emmy Award winner Noah Wyle, the critically acclaimed Max Original Series returns for a second season this Thursday at 9 p.m. on HBO Max. Check out the official companion podcast on HBO Max and all major podcast platforms. STARBUCKS: Try Starbucks new lineup of high protein beverages or customize to create your own! Head to https://Starbucks.com ALLSTATE: Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://allstate.com/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:13Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our partner Royal Caribbean. Dude, have you seen this? Royal Caribbean just dropped The Legend of the Seas. It's the biggest cruise ship on the planet. Like, nothing's even close to being this big. And it's sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, starting this November.

• 1:31Speaker 03

  That's right. This thing is stacked. Seven pools, more places to eat than you can even count. I mean, they have something for everybody.

• 1:40Travis Kelce?

  Like, bring the kids, bring mom and dad, shoot, bring the whole crew. Everybody's got a spot. That's what makes it special.

• 1:47Speaker 03

  And the entertainment? Latin music, ice skating, full-on Broadway shows. It's pretty amazing. Pretty much everything you want in one place. Oh, and did I mention there's a water park?

• 1:57Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

• 1:59Speaker 03

  I love a water park.

• 2:00Travis Kelce?

  But the crazy one? Crown's Edge, a ropes course off the side of the ship, not for the faint of heart, brother.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  They've also got Playmaker, sports bar, and arcade, so that means games on every screen. I love a good arcade sports place combination.

• 2:18Travis Kelce?

  All right, count me in. Get the family on the new Legend of the Seas, sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  Visit royalcaribbean.com to learn more.

• 2:29Speaker 03

  How do you think the Patriots will do in the playoffs? Are you guys so spoiled that it's like if they don't win the Super Bowl, you guys are going to be upset?

• 2:36Speaker 00

  No, no, not at all. I mean, this is a new, this is a new team, right? And I think, I think this is like found money for us, right? Like, I feel like it's

• 2:44Speaker 03

  It's from the rip. You guys busted open the wall and you found a quarterback. $20 million quarterback sitting in the wall.

• 2:51Speaker 00

  He broke in, he took the sledgehammer and there was Drake May.

• 3:00Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. 92%ers from all over a Wondery show brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Oh, it's starting to get the tax season, baby. Don't forget to pay your taxes.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  Unfortunately, they will knock on the door and you do need to pay them.

• 3:17Travis Kelce?

  I'm Travis Kelce, this is my big brother, Jason Kelce out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Tigers and shout out to those Bearcats, baby. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondery Plus, wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. I am officially jobless, Jason. Actually, this is my only job.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Well, no, you're still employed unless you stop playing. Have you announced you're stopped playing?

• 3:40Travis Kelce?

  This is the only company that employs me right now.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  92%ers, we got a great episode coming up. We're going to recap everything that happened in the final week of the regular season, as well as dive into these upcoming wild card weekend games. We're not excited for some playoffs.

• 3:55Travis Kelce?

  Playoffs?

• 3:57Speaker 03

  You know what I'm excited for?

• 3:58Travis Kelce?

  Tell us.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  Matt fucking Damon, that's right. He's coming at the back. That's right. We got him. We got Will. We got Jason Bourne. We got one of the most iconic actors of this generation. He's going to come. We're going to make you wait for it. He'll be after we talk a little bit of football, but you're going to, you're going to get through it with us. All right, we're, we just so you know, we can't wait for Matt either. All right.

• 4:19Travis Kelce?

  All right.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  Here we go. Let's start off, what we always start off with, a little bit of new news.

• 4:24Travis Kelce?

  New news.

• 4:25Speaker 03

  New news is brought to you by American Express. Okay, update from the Amazon Holiday Giving Initiative. This holiday season, over 3,000 Operation Breakthrough families in KC were provided with gifts and essential needs. That's right. How about that? Well done. Thank you to all the 92 percenters and our friends, of course, at Amazon. Well done, Amazon.

• 4:46Travis Kelce?

  It's awesome, man.

• 4:47Speaker 03

  Well done, 92 percenters because of everyone involved with this entire initiative. 3,000 Operation Breakthrough families have had something around the holidays, which, I mean, if that's not the Christmas spirit, I don't know what is. And for the third time, Travis Kelce has won the nationwide Walter Payton Man of the Year Charity Challenge.

• 5:08Travis Kelce?

  How about it, man?

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Every year, each team nominates one player to be their Walter Payton Man of the Year. When you get nominated, there is a fan vote that happens on socials and on the internet. And if you win that, you win the charity challenge. You're the only player to win the charity challenge each time they've been nominated.

• 5:28Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's Chiefs Kingdom, baby.

• 5:29Speaker 03

  As the club's Walter Payton Man of the Year. Shout out to Chiefs Kingdom. Shout out to the 92 percenters. Operation Breakthrough also dropped some throwback picks here because you've been involved there for a while.

• 5:38Travis Kelce?

  Oh, we've been doing this since

• 5:40Speaker 03

  Look at these photos.

• 5:41Travis Kelce?

  Beginning of my career. Yeah.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  The young Travis Kelce right here.

• 5:44Travis Kelce?

  There you go. Oh, yeah. In the muffler shop. And then, ooh, the early days, man. Oh, my gosh, it's so funny seeing some of these pictures. The original robotics lab that 87 and running my foundations helped support that robot right there. You see that young girl?

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:01Travis Kelce?

  Holding up. And now she is like one of the like high school kids that are now have been using Operation Breakthrough and all its resources for a while. So it's cool to see some of these familiar faces grow into high school kids and kind of

• 6:15Speaker 03

  That's awesome.

• 6:16Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's awesome, man. And one of my first foundation events, I used to do a walk to walk. It used to be a fashion show that I used to put on for some of the boutiques and the kids over at Operation Breakthrough got to walk in it. So shout out to everyone over at OB. You guys know how much I love you and how much you guys mean to me. And it just means everything that 92 percenters and Chiefs Kingdom out there helps support that. And it's all to make these kids right here happy and proud of where they come from.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Well, just so you guys know, everything for the nationwide Walter Payton Man of the Year Charity Challenge goes to support Operation Breakthrough. So you guys are awesome. Thank you so much. And thank you to everybody who voted for Travis and who has helped Operation Breakthrough out. It's a fantastic organization in Kansas City. They do so many things for these kids and families. So well done, everyone. And that wraps up new news, which is brought to you once again by American Express.

• 7:11Travis Kelce?

  Let's move on to some bold topics to wrap up week 18 in the NFL. Wow. Week 18. I forgot we even had 18 weeks. It's a 17 game season. Bold topics are brought to you by KFC.

• 7:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've got some snackers, famous KFC bowls. All right, here we go. Chiefs 12 Raiders 14. What are your thoughts on the season, Trev? What are your closing sentiments from this Chiefs season?

• 7:36Travis Kelce?

  You know, it was a, it was a tough season, obviously ended even worse because my guy 1-5 went down and you know, we finished the season with a lot of starters kind of being banged up. So we had a, had a mixture of guys that were getting their first taste of what the NFL has to offer, which is fun, but it definitely has its challenges and you know, it's a, it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough way to go out, especially with the amount of success and the standard that you hold, you know, yourself and the team to going into the season and throughout the season. And you try and look back on it, you know, right away and you try and you'll learn from it and, and maybe try even try and figure out where it all went wrong and how you could have been

• 8:20Travis Kelce?

  better in certain situations. And it's just a shitty feeling and a shitty way to try and navigate. One of the things you do, you love to do the most, and that's play football. And you know, I just, I appreciate everybody that was in that building and then there was on the field the past like three, four weeks when we knew we really didn't have much to play for other than the love of the game and the, the pride and the honor that comes with playing in the NFL. But I just, I appreciate everybody that, that was out there giving it their all and putting their body on the line and made it as, as good as, as we could have going, going into the last week and then the, and the end of the season.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's nothing worse than, you know, not making the playoffs. It is very frustrating. You guys have done it, especially when you guys have done it so much. Like it's absolutely crazy and you guys obviously should be very proud of that, but that doesn't make any, it actually probably hurts more, I would assume.

• 9:15Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's kind of a, an embarrassing feeling, but you know, you. You keep it moving, man. You keep it moving. And I'm still a fan of the game and I still love the game. So I'll be tuned in throughout the playoffs, seeing how this thing shakes out over the next couple of weeks. And yeah, get to be around some friends and family in January instead of trying to figure out how to win some playoff games.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  The season did not come without you guys winning some things, especially you, Trav, with some records being broken. Let's have a little reminder, since you love talking about records so much and stats, all right. You became the third tight end ever with 13,000 receiving yards, the fastest to ever accomplish that feat. Guys in front of you, of course, another Kansas City legend, Tony Gonzalez, who

• 10:04Travis Kelce?

  DG.

• 10:05Speaker 03

  I mean, absolutely insane how many yards Tony has.

• 10:07Travis Kelce?

  No, it's absolutely insane. As you're right, he's fucking silly.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  And then obviously Jason Witten down in Dallas. Travis, the third one to get over the 13,000 yard marker, which is a very fitting number, I think. You also passed TO for eighth most receptions in NFL history. Did you know that?

• 10:29Travis Kelce?

  Yes, I've known, they asked me about all this stuff after the game. So that's how that's how I really know.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  That's crazy. I didn't know you were eighth of receptions, just period. That's awesome.

• 10:40Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, Coach Reed dials me up. I don't know what else to tell you. I think when he puts together game plan, he features me and I'm very fortunate of that. And I'm fortunate that in my 13th year, he was still trusting me to try and win him some ballgames. So shout out to Coach for, you know, helping me accumulate some of these yards and catches.

• 11:01Speaker 03

  Another record is you are now tied with Tim Brown for the longest streak of seasons with 75 plus receptions at 10.

• 11:09Travis Kelce?

  That's LeBron's stat, 100%.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's LeBron's stat.

• 11:12Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to Tim Brown, though.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  Now that the season is over, what is next for the big Yeti?

• 11:18Travis Kelce?

  Every season adds for me. I put my feet up and I just be a human because I've been putting my body through the wringer for, for the love of it, you know, I do, I do enjoy playing football and the physical aspect of it. I think there's something about, you know, feeling the, the wear and tear of the football season to just fucking. You know, getting ready for a game, knowing that your body is fucking beat down. And I just, I think there's, there's something to it. It makes you just feel like a, like a mangy animal that just is fucking out here just finding a way to survive. And I just fucking love that shit, but.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:51Travis Kelce?

  Um, I think, uh, yeah, just being a regular human for, for a couple of weeks, maybe a, a month or so. And, uh, trying to figure out what I'm going to do next in, in terms of my future in football. Um, and, uh, I think, uh, you know, I've talked to a few people in the facility already, you know, having the exit meetings and everything. And, um, they, they know where I stand at least right now. And I think there's, there's a lot of love for the game that's, that's still there. And I don't, I don't think I'll ever lose that. Um, and, um, I don't know. It's a, it's a, it's a tough thing to navigate, but at the same time, um, you know, I think, uh, if I think my, if my body can, can heal up and rest up and I can, uh,

• 12:35Travis Kelce?

  I can feel confident that I can go out there and give it another 18, 20, 21 week run. Um, I think, uh, I would do it in a heartbeat. So, um, I think right now it's just finding that answer and, and seeing how the, uh, the body, uh, feels after this game. And kind of when it all settles down.

• 12:56Speaker 03

  I'm confused. So you're not already coming back?

• 12:59Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 13:00Speaker 03

  Chris Jones has said that you're coming back. I thought this was already.

• 13:05Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 13:07Travis Kelce?

  That's why we love Chris. He's very optimistic. He's very optimistic.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Chris Jones' quote is, I'm not buying it. He'll be back next year. He also followed that up though. He said, I can't promise you anything.

• 13:19Travis Kelce?

  Nice. There you go.

• 13:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Let's keep this thing moving. A little Eagles 17, commanders 24. Uh, Jason, you want some thoughts on the game on me? Obviously the Eagles didn't play all their starters, but.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, that's the big storyline is obviously the way it worked this past week for the Eagles was if. You know, Detroit beat Chicago, which did end up happening. And if the Eagles win, the Eagles could have jumped up to the two seed. The Eagles obviously elected to rest their starters because they prioritize the rest going into the playoffs, which I think is right. I mean, it's if the Eagles could have guaranteed getting the two seed by playing their starters, I think they probably would have played. But because there was this other game that also had to take place,

• 14:11Speaker 03

  you have the risk of injury.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  It's kind of outside of your control. The one thing you can control in that situation is making sure your team is rearing and ready to go for week one. And I also, to be honest with you, I felt pretty confident the Eagles backups would beat the commanders. And I think that they should have. They didn't finish the game well. They started off pretty good. Tank Bigsby was running crazy. And I was excited to see Tanner McKee. He's played well in most of his outings with the Eagles. So there's a portion of me that just wanted to see what some of these backups and young guys could do. But yeah, it looks bad in hindsight. This is one of those things where, you know, because Chicago lost, you know, we got the egg on our face because we didn't play our starters and we could have the two seed most likely if we would have played everybody. But I think of it like this too, is like

• 14:59Travis Kelce?

  Monday morning quarterback.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  If they start the starters and one of the premier guys gets hurt and the Lions don't win, then everybody's going to be on Nick Sirianni about what fucking idiot is playing his guys in a game that's meaningless.

• 15:14Travis Kelce?

  Damn if you do, damn if you don't, yeah.

• 15:16Speaker 03

  And we were in the same, a similar situation in 2023, my last year. And the offense was struggling. We really actually had less to gain. Like we weren't really playing for anything in that week. If I recall it correctly. And we go out there and we play and what happens? A.J. Brown gets hurt and he couldn't play in the first playoff game. Jalen Hurts also got banged up in that game. And I do think that that was also in the back of Nick Sirianni and the Eagles head of like, listen, the last time we played our guys in a game like this, it ended up costing us some meaningful people. And we weren't. At our best against Tampa Bay. I think at this point in the season, when you get the rest and you have the opportunity to avoid somebody getting hurt and you don't know for certain that playing guys is going to help you, I don't know that it benefits you that

• 16:01Speaker 03

  much. And at the end of the day, you still gotta go through good teams to win the Super Bowl. Like, yeah, if we play, if we're the two seed and we can guarantee two home games, that is a big thing. That is a big deal. But at the same time, like, we're gonna have to play great teams regardless. And now we get a week of rest. All of our starters land in, our whole offensive line has been so banged up. A lot of those guys got the ability to get healthier. And then we're gonna get to play, and now we get San Fran, who just fought their tails off with a juggernaut of Seattle, and they're gonna be coming to the East Coast. Uh, you know, I think if this team is good enough, they're still gonna find a way to get it done. I don't think that decision in Week 18 is gonna determine

• 16:44Speaker 03

  the outcome of this team. I just think that when we play up to our potential with the defense we have and with the offensive firepower we have, I think we can beat anybody.

• 16:53Travis Kelce?

  Well, you guys got the 49ers next week. And, uh, I mean, they've been rolling, man. They've been rolling. They had a tough one last week, but.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Dude, how good is Seattle?

• 17:01Travis Kelce?

  That was a crazy game.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  Dude, Seattle.

• 17:03Travis Kelce?

  Shitty weather game, too.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  Seattle's so long and fast and those windows, just they're smaller and they close and.

• 17:10Travis Kelce?

  They're active, man. Active.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  I came away from that game more impressed with Seattle than I was like, oh, San Fran ain't very good. San Fran's still legit. I just think the Seattle defense is freaking, man, do they got some dudes over there.

• 17:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. When with everything that's happened with the 49ers, man, Kyle Shanahan, man.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  It's one of the best seasons.

• 17:29Travis Kelce?

  Tip of the cap. He just keeps finding ways to fucking win. And shout out to the guys that, you know, that haven't gotten injured that are fighting through and finding ways.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  Shout out to John Lynch for building a deep roster. You know what I mean? Like, to be able to weather all this stuff. You know, if they don't go out and get Mac Jones this offseason, they probably, they don't, what happens in those eight games that Brock pretty misses?

• 17:48Travis Kelce?

  Who knows, man? All right, let's get into the rest of Week 18. Good luck to those birds playing the Niners next week, man. I'm gonna be fucking glued to the TV on Sunday when they, when they play. But the rest of the week 18 games, Seahawks got the number one seed by beating the Niners. We just talked about that. The NFC South had three teams finished eight and nine. Panthers move on due to the tiebreakers with the eight, nine Panthers hosting the 12 and five Rams. It's a crazy, insane thing to think about. I think I remember some, some coaches coming out and saying, "Hey, if the record's better, we deserve the, the home game." But I kind of think that that would-

• 18:26Speaker 03

  I'm all in on the divisions.

• 18:27Travis Kelce?

  You win the division, you get, you get the home game. I think I'm with that too.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  You don't win your division, you don't get a home game. I don't care what your record is.

• 18:33Travis Kelce?

  And now the Rams have to go all the way to Carolina, take that four hour, five hour, yeah, four and a half hour, five hour trip to play a football game.

• 18:40Speaker 03

  Carolina kind of like smalls their way into the playoffs, like, like Rodrigo, just kind of like, Rodriguez, Benny the Jet, just sent him out to center field and they just held up their glove like this.

• 18:54Travis Kelce?

  They're like, "Whoa, we're in the playoffs. Holy shit." Okay, we're doing this. All right.

• 19:01Travis Kelce?

  That's hilarious.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  Steelers pulled it off against the Ravens, another fucking just-

• 19:06Travis Kelce?

  Dude, Lamar came out hot, dude.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  It was an awesome end of the game.

• 19:09Travis Kelce?

  Lamar versus Rogers was, was a hell of a fucking battle.

• 19:12Speaker 03

  Lamar and Rogers, especially in the fourth quarter, were freaking on fire. Like every time you thought one of them outdid the other one, the other one answered and it came down to the wire. Lamar got them in position, but yeah, you missed the kick. I mean, it's unfortunate, right?

• 19:27Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's, it's very unfortunate. And actually, Mike Tomlin had another Mike Tomlin quote about how unfortunate it is. And just how, you know, sometimes the ball just doesn't go your way, you know? He says, I quote, "You, you know how it is missing a field goal. If my aunt had male parts, she'd be my uncle."

• 19:47Speaker 03

  I wish you would have just said, just say the whole thing, Mike. I don't need you to sugarcoat it or censor it. Yeah, if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. That's what, that's what the saying is.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  It doesn't hit the same with the male parts, but it is a great one.

• 19:59Travis Kelce?

  It's a banger. And we got the playoff picture. We were just talking about the Eagles playing in San Fran, hosting San Fran, that is, being the number three seed. Rams going to Carolina, Green Bay at Chicago. The Bears hosting a playoff game at Soldier Field. That's epic. Steelers hosting the Texans with the four and five matchup. Buffalo's got to go down to Duval. How about it, man? Those guys are fucking rocking, but you can never count out Josh Allen. And then you got a fun one, man. Two awesome quarterbacks. Love watching both these guys play with Justin Herbert versus Drake May. And they'll be up there in, uh, in New England playing, man. Which one's your favorite game?

• 20:41Speaker 03

  Well, the game I'm most excited about is Philly versus San Fran. I do think that's, that's one of the more exciting games in the first round.

• 20:47Travis Kelce?

  There's a little bit of an NFC playoff like rivalry between you guys for sure.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  No doubt. We've had a lot of meaningful games, uh, really over the last five, six years.

• 20:56Travis Kelce?

  Hell, yeah.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  Because we've both been really good. I'm looking forward to all though. That's why the playoffs are so good. I'll be honest, I still wish it was six teams. I don't like that there's seven teams. I don't like that there's only one bye. I think it should be the old structure, but it's still the NFL playoffs. It's still the best thing around. I still love it. I'm looking forward to most of these games. I, I think the ones that I'm probably San Fran, Philadelphia, probably Jacksonville, Buffalo. The two, six, three games are probably the most exciting ones. What do you think? What are the games you're most excited about?

• 21:23Travis Kelce?

  I mean, the one I just talked about up in New England, I think that's going to be fun as hell to watch. Buffalo Jacksonville game, I'm pretty fucking jacked for.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:30Travis Kelce?

  I'm interested to see who comes out on top on that one.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  Do we have a most likely upset? Who do you think's going to lose? That's favorite. I mean, either of the four seeds, which that's not an upset though. Are we going upset by seed or upset by?

• 21:43Travis Kelce?

  Seed, seed.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  Well, then the obvious answer is like LA is going to beat the piss out of fucking Carolina. Right?

• 21:48Travis Kelce?

  Until that, that ball just finds the mid.

• 21:52Speaker 03

  And sometimes you've got that angels in the outfield, uh, luck to you. It just, you know.

• 21:57Travis Kelce?

  You got the juice, you got the juice, man. I don't know what to tell you.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  I think the other one is obviously Houston versus Pittsburgh. Houston's defense is insane.

• 22:04Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that's, that's the one I was going to say.

• 22:06Speaker 03

  Buffalo, is Buffalo out?

• 22:08Travis Kelce?

  I could see him winning.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  Jacksonville's really good, right?

• 22:11Travis Kelce?

  They, they got a lot of, they're a lot of fun. They're a lot of fun right now.

• 22:15Speaker 03

  The one I feel the most confident about is definitely LA. What team is the most hot going into playoffs?

• 22:19Travis Kelce?

  It's gotta be Jacksonville. They fucking won their last like seven games or something.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  Jacksonville has finished the regular season hot. That's why that game right now, I'm very much looking forward to watching. Which quarterback will get their first playoff win? Um, I think May will.

• 22:35Travis Kelce?

  I mean, it's between him and Herbert. I can see.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  I think Darnold. I mean, dude, it's hard to bet against Seattle right now. They looked unbelievable against San Fran. That D and not, I mean, Donald looks great too, but that defense is really the one thing that's like, whoa. Seattle's defense is kind of built like a modern day NBA team.

• 22:52Travis Kelce?

  The athletes.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  Their nickel is like 6'3".

• 22:55Travis Kelce?

  Bro, he is active too.

• 22:57Speaker 03

  They were plays kind of open for San Fran, but by the time the ball got there, that distance was just closed. They move so fast. They have range. That's right. They remind me of an NBA, modern NBA team because they're all long. They can cover ground and I feel like right now everybody's playing this like kind of conservative zone. Like get back into your hooks. And the way teams are trying to combat that is the short stuff, but then they just break. They break on that stuff so quickly that even when you throw it short, they're on you right now and you don't get much out of it. So they tackle well. It's a very impressive defense. So I don't know if I'm rolling with one, I'm going with May.

• 23:38Travis Kelce?

  There you go.

• 23:40Speaker 03

  Do you have a Super Bowl dark horse?

• 23:41Travis Kelce?

  I mean, it's gotta be kind of Jacksonville, right? I just feel like that's, that's the one that's got the energy and has the, has the momentum right now. And I mean, even though they're a three seed, uh, which their record shows that they're one of the top teams in the league. It's, it's kind of like they, it's unproven yet, you know? You gotta see Trevor go out there and really run the table, man. And, um, I think that's probably my dark horse. If there is a dark horse.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  It does feel like the Rams are getting a lot of attention. The Eagles are obviously the defending champions. Uh, Seattle, everyone is talking about now. Uh, but on the AFC side, everyone's talking about Josh Allen. It's his time, like Drake May MVP. Almost nobody really is talking that much about Jack. Like they're the darkest one, but they've actually been playing the most consistent, probably. I'm kind of with you on this. I don't think they're going to win, but they are the dark horse.

• 24:35Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, we've got a great slate of games this weekend and, uh, you can't forget that, uh, that, that prime video game. That's right. Green Bay Packers are playing the Chicago Bears over. Soldier Stadium.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:46Travis Kelce?

  God, I remember a playoff game over at Soldier Stadium. Ended it at double doink. It's always electric and there's gonna be electric game this Saturday, January 10th at 7:30 PM only on Prime Video.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Heyo.

• 24:59Travis Kelce?

  All right. Well, that wraps up Bold Topics brought to you by KFC. Heyo. Let's wrap up some football talk with the Stamps of the Week. Stamps of the Week is brought to you by HBO Max. Check out The Pit, season two premiering tomorrow at nine Eastern.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  All right. This is the easiest pick for me. I'm going Miles Garrett. Broke the sack record. I mean, anytime somebody breaks a freaking all time season record of sacks, rushing yards, anything like that, they're gonna get the stamp of the week. I don't know how you don't give them the stamp of the week. And he did it second. Joe Burrow, did Joe take a dive? Are we, do we have another, do we have another guest to know? Let's take a look at this. Did Joe take it down? Joe doesn't strike me as a diving kind of guy.

• 25:45Travis Kelce?

  No, he's a competitor.

• 25:46Speaker 03

  That's a sack. That's a sack. That's a sack.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, he didn't fight it, but that's a sack. That's a sack. We'll count it. We'll count it. We'll count it.

• 25:55Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to Miles Garrett, man. Absolute fucking legend. Uh, deserves all the praise he's getting and congrats on fucking getting 23 sacks. It's crazy, man. Uh, Strahan was, uh, commenting on it, says, you know, uh, he's got the record in 17 games. I got the record in 16 games.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  He was, he kind of was joking around a bit about it.

• 26:14Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, you already know he's having fun with it. He, he shows, he shows Miles all the, all the respect as well, man, but.

• 26:20Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 26:20Travis Kelce?

  I'm gonna go, uh, I'm gonna go hit home with it, baby. Uh, Cleveland Heights own Leila Edwards is heading to the Olympics. That's right. Becomes the first black woman to play for the US Women's National Team.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah.

• 26:34Travis Kelce?

  At the Olympic Games. She's gonna be out there in Milan, uh, supporting, uh, representing the US of A. And, uh, even cooler, uh, our hometown, Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  Congratulations to Leila Edwards. That wraps up Stamp of the Week brought to you by HBO Max and The Pit, season two, premiering tomorrow night on HBO Max.

• 26:53Travis Kelce?

  Now let's get to some Matt Damon. Jason, can you do the honors, please?

• 26:58Speaker 03

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• 27:03Travis Kelce?

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• 27:15Travis Kelce?

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• 27:28Speaker 03

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• 27:39Travis Kelce?

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• 28:00Travis Kelce?

  Intuit TurboTax. Now this is taxes.

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• 28:07Travis Kelce?

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• 28:22Travis Kelce?

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• 28:44Travis Kelce?

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• 28:55Travis Kelce?

  Bowl season is over for college football, but new bowl season is beginning. That's way better.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:02Travis Kelce?

  It's KFC five dollar bowls season.

• 29:06Speaker 03

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• 29:18Travis Kelce?

  Creamy mac and cheese with a kick. Come on now.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  People think $5 means you're getting some tiny portion. Nah, these bowls are loaded.

• 29:27Travis Kelce?

  Right? Like, uh, we're talking zero leftovers. You're finishing this whole thing.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  Five different ways to fill it up. All five bucks. It's math. That's how it works. That's the kind of value we need after the holidays, right? We just spent a bunch of money on presents and gifts that our kids have already forgotten about.

• 29:44Travis Kelce?

  Five bowls, $5, zero leftovers.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  Try KFC five dollar bowls today, actually right now. Don't even wait till later today. Go to your KFC.

• 29:57Travis Kelce?

  Now, we are so fucking lucky to have you, brother. We're gonna have some fun with this one.

• 30:02Speaker 00

  I'm fired up to be here. I've been, I actually like, for some reason, my Instagram thinks that you're the only thing I ever want to watch.

• 30:11Speaker 00

  I get, I've seen so much of your stuff just recommended to me. So this is cool.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Our guest today is an actor, writer and producer from Cambridge, Massachusetts. He is a two-time Golden Globe winner, three times critic choice winner, and an Academy Award winner. He is also the 2007 people's sexiest man alive. You know him from Good Will Hunting, The Martian, The Ocean's franchises, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Bourne franchises, Saving Private Ryan, The Departed, Foreign and First Free Yard, Air Oppenheimer. Gosh dang, I was running out of movies. Here we go. And his new movie, The Rip is on Netflix starting January 16th. Ninety-two percenters, please welcome, well, how about this? How about them apples? It's Matt Damon.

• 30:58Speaker 00

  Thank you, guys. That was awesome, Jason. Thank you. I feel like I should run out of the locker room and go hit somebody.

• 31:04Travis Kelce?

  Fucking go.

• 31:05Speaker 03

  That's all we're good at.

• 31:08Travis Kelce?

  Either doing that ourselves or motivating people to do it. It's all we know. Dude, you're absolute iconic, brother, and we can't thank you enough for spending some time. The rip is unbelievable, man. It is.

• 31:20Speaker 00

  Thank you, guys. I'm fired up that you guys saw. You guys are the first people to see it. So this is, that's great news. That's great for me to hear. Yeah, we haven't shown many people at all. It hasn't come out yet. So, and this is the first interview I'm doing for it. So this is very, very cool.

• 31:33Travis Kelce?

  I live a fucking dumb life, man. Dude, this movie is ridiculous, man. It had to be on the edge of my seat the entire time. And it's based off of, a lot of the facts are based off a true story.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It starts with a true story and then we take dramatic license from there. But, but, you know, there are these, this, this program in Miami where, where, you know, they take tips to go get money that's kind of, they seize money that's got from, by like ill-gotten gains, you know, like drug money and stuff like that. And so they'll hit these houses. They have dogs that, that don't smell for drugs. They just smell for money. And they have these teams that go seize, seize this stuff. And, and one of the rules down there is you got to count it on site. You know, just to make sure that none of it ends up in anybody's pocket and that everybody's on the up and up. And so they count it and they're very, very serious about it. And, and, and there was one of these ones that they went on where they were expecting to find a couple hundred grand.

• 32:29Speaker 00

  And there was over $20 million in the walls of this house. And so that's kind of where our movie is about that. Like it's about this team of people, but you already know there are rumblings that there might be some corruption or there might be some bad apples who are working with people outside. And then they go in, they find this $20 million and they know it's cartel money. So they're like, oh my God, they're going to come back for it. And so they, it turns into that kind of, you know, like a thriller where they're, where they're, where they're, they know they got to, they got to stay on site, but they know that the site is kind of compromised.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely. When do you first get pissed about this? Or is this, are you at the point now that this is your baby? Like, how did you get involved with this?

• 33:06Speaker 00

  So Ben and I have a studio like now Artist Equity and, and, um, and so we're small, but we, but we're kind of a full-service studio. And so people are starting to become aware of that and coming to us with projects. And this came to us through Joe Conahan, who, um, he directed NARC a long time ago, a movie, The Gray. He directed, he's directed a bunch of movies.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:27Speaker 00

  Ben did Smoke and Aces with him, actually, about 15 or 20 years ago. So we've known Joe for a really long time. And he just sent this over to us and we read it and we were like, this is great. Well, we'd love to make it. And then as we kind of were working on it with Joe, we were kind of like, well, why don't we just all do it together?

• 33:45Speaker 00

  We're all old friends. We were like, this would be really fun. And, and, um, and so that, that's kind of how, how this one came to pass.

• 33:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. It, it's fantastic. And the way it all comes together at the end and the armored vehicle and like you guys, that is like-

• 33:58Travis Kelce?

  Cinema dude, it's so fucking cool, man.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  You gotta say, you, in the movie, you convince, uh, Ben to go after a large sum of money. Well, you guys think it's a smaller sum of money and it ends up being larger. What's the dumbest thing as lifelong friends, you've convinced Ben to do in your friendship?

• 34:15Speaker 00

  Oh my God, that's a great question. God, our whole life is a stupid.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  We were like 14 and 16 years old and we were going to New York auditioning, taking the bus and going down there. Literally the journey would take us seven hours to get there. We'd walk in and we called it getting okay, thanks. Cause you'd do an audition, you do the best you could and the person would just go, okay, thanks. And five minutes, you're out the door and you're back on the bus going like, I don't think that went too well, you know, like, so our whole life has been, I mean, if you, the odds of it working out were, were so long against and working out for both of us. Like I, I don't, I mean, God, we've done so much stupid shit in our lives, but the whole idea was kind of dumb to begin with, I think.

• 35:05Speaker 03

  That's, yeah. I mean, it's amazing, really. At what point did you guys realize that, like, what was your first big break? That you knew we were going to be able to do this?

• 35:14Speaker 00

  Well, it's tough to say big break because I think we thought every break, like the first, like we got a TJ Maxx commercial and we were like, this is it, man.

• 35:24Travis Kelce?

  No look at that.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  And then, you know, and then we started to get little parts and we started to get bigger parts, but we were getting told by casting directors and stuff. We'd go in and read and they'd go, you're not right for this, but you should keep going. So we were getting kind of signals that, that, that we were in the right, you know, area code. But then like when we sold Good Will Hunting, when we sold the screenplay, that we, we thought that was absolutely it. And we were like broke a year later, you know?

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Really?

• 35:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  After that?

• 35:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, we, I mean, not broke, broke. I mean, but like, here, I'll put, I mean, I guess, so we sold the screenplay for 600 grand, right? Which was just so much more money than either of us had ever considered. It was like, which we split, right? And then, but after taxes and agent lawyer and all that stuff.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  I get it. Yeah.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  So now, now we're down under 150 each. And the first thing we did was buy a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokees.

• 36:27Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  Now we had, and we were renting this place in LA, you know, like we, you know, it didn't take long for us to be like, dude, we gotta get another job.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  You know?

• 36:39Speaker 03

  We can't just survive on that. Let me ask you, just for reference, do you know what Good Will Hunting has grossed in its, like, time?

• 36:45Speaker 00

  When it came out, I think it was like 220 something in the theater, but I have no idea what it did after that. Like, because they relicensed it and they, you know?

• 36:56Speaker 03

  That's one of them that's just continued because it's just such an amazing film.

• 37:00Speaker 00

  Actually with our, with our studio, you know, that's one of the things where we really fight for is reversion rights. Like Ben called me a couple of years ago and he goes, you know, the town just got relicensed for 35 million bucks. Because, which just means that he made a great movie and people are still watching it. And he, you know, he, at the time, like, that movie made a fortune. It made, it did all this stuff, but he, he was on a flat salary and he didn't, you know, I don't even think he made a million bucks for that movie. And he wrote it, directed it, start, you know, starred in it.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  That is crazy.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  It was one of those things. So, but it's like, you know, our view was like, look, if, if you do something like that as, as one of the real contributors to it, then like, if there's money kind of in perpetuity, then you should, you should be a part of that. So. Hell, yeah. I mean, it only sounds right, man. Yeah, yeah. Sounds fair.

• 37:50Travis Kelce?

  Seriously though, speaking of movies you guys have been in, when was the first movie you guys worked on together? Was it, was it Field of Dreams?

• 38:00Speaker 00

  We, there were, yeah, we were extras in Field of Dreams. That was, that was one. But I think even before that, there was a movie that Diane Keaton and Liam Neeson starred in, that, a little movie called The Good Mother, and that shot in Boston, and Ben and I, and Casey, his little brother, we were all extras in that, and I think there's still a shot in that movie of Liam Neeson walking past us. Ben and I, I don't think have hit puberty yet. We're like 5'1".

• 38:29Speaker 00

  And Liam's a big dude. He's like 6'5", 6'6". And we walked past him on, on, on a street at one point. So that might have been the first moment we were, we were actually on screen together.

• 38:41Travis Kelce?

  We gotta find that one.

• 38:42Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't know. I don't know where it is. I just remember going to the movie and Ben and I were like, we're in it, we're in it.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Well, while we're talking movies, you're in something else that's coming up too. We got the rip coming up, but we also have The Odyssey?

• 38:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  Is that, is that correct?

• 38:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, July.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  Are you Odysseus? Who are you in The Odyssey?

• 39:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm Odysseus, yeah.

• 39:04Speaker 03

  There we go. All right, all right.

• 39:06Speaker 00

  I had a beard like yours for, for like a year.

• 39:08Speaker 03

  I think I've seen the pictures. You were getting pretty yoked up in some of the pictures I saw too, circulating the internet.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I, I was in really good shape. I lost a lot of weight, like, he said he, he wanted me like lean but strong.

• 39:22Speaker 03

  Lean but strong.

• 39:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, lean but strong. And so I, like, it's a weird thing. I, I, I don't want to bore the shit out of you, but like I-

• 39:29Speaker 03

  None of this is boring at all.

• 39:32Speaker 00

  Literally like stopped eating, just because of this other thing I did with my doctor, stopped eating gluten. And I lost, like, I used to walk around at between 185 and 200.

• 39:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  And, and, and I did that whole movie at 167.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Holy cow.

• 39:49Speaker 00

  And I haven't been that light since high school. Like, yeah, yeah. So it was a lot of training and a really strict diet.

• 39:55Travis Kelce?

  I was gonna say, so when you get, you get asked by the director or whoever asked you to be at that size and strength and that lean build, do you then like go out and source a trainer that gets you to that point? Or do you already have somebody in mind?

• 40:12Speaker 00

  No, I had somebody, but it's just, you know, yeah, trainers are like, what are we doing? And they can kind of do anything, you know, and it's just knowing, it's just having kind of a clear goal and setting it. It felt actually more, it's like when I do that or when I did, you do like the Jason Bourne movies or whatever, it feels almost like, like a season in a, in a, I would imagine what that feels like for you guys where you're preparing, you know, it's like just part of your day, it's part of your job, right? And it's like, yeah, and you get really routinized about it and really, and kind of build your day around all that stuff. And yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's kind of the physical side of getting ready.

• 40:50Travis Kelce?

  Have you had gluten since?

• 40:52Speaker 00

  I haven't.

• 40:53Travis Kelce?

  Dude, staying strong.

• 40:55Speaker 00

  I'm done. I'm done. I'm gluten free everything. I found a gluten free beer.

• 41:00Speaker 03

  Nice, there we go.

• 41:02Travis Kelce?

  How about it?

• 41:03Speaker 00

  It's been so long since I've had gluten, I can't tell if it's good or not. So that's, that's, that's a good sign.

• 41:08Speaker 03

  It's working, it's working. Well, the trailer for The Odyssey got over 121.4 million views in the first 24 hours, more than double Oppenheimer got, which was pretty successful. What, what do you think has so many people psyched up about this film?

• 41:25Speaker 00

  Wow. Well, I think for, I mean, obviously Chris, you know, you know, Chris Nolan, you know, I think everybody feels, I mean, I, I'm a fan too. I just love the movies that he makes and, and, and also, you know, the, just the way, you know, the way he insists on. Shooting them, you know, and this one was 100% on IMAX. It was the first movie that was ever done all on IMAX.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 41:51Speaker 00

  Like IMAX cameras are really loud. Like it sounds like a blender, like a Cuisinart in your face when this camera's close to you.

• 41:57Speaker 03

  Really?

• 41:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. And that's why. So there's never been these dialogues. Like we couldn't have this conversation with a normal IMAX camera because you wouldn't be able to hear us.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  But they built this giant thing around the IMAX for those dialogue scenes and, and like a system of mirrors. So you could look at, you know, so your eye line would be close to the camera and you could talk to the other actor and like, the amount of work that went into figuring out how to do, because he wanted to do it 100% IMAX. And he did it. So it was like really ambitious kind of ideas that he has and like on the technical side. And then just, there were locations that we went, that we shot in where I would, we would get there and I'd just start laughing. I'd be like, nobody has any business shooting here. Like, but like, of course he wants to shoot here. Yeah, that makes, that tracks, you know? But we do, he has such a great crew. Like his crew is so

• 42:51Speaker 00

  badass and, and everybody just maxed out on that movie and, and, you know, and, and we made all of our days. We actually finished ahead of schedule. Like we, it was just, it was an awesome experience.

• 43:03Speaker 03

  That's awesome. Hell yeah.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  I haven't seen it yet. You know, I mean, I've seen the trailer like you have, but that's about it.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Is that the way? So how, how far before the theatrical release do you guys get to watch it? Like, is there, or do you try and like wait until that moment?

• 43:18Speaker 00

  No, it depends. There, there are some, a lot of directors, you know, if I'm doing a movie with Ben, I'm in the editing room within the whole time. And, and there are some directors who, you know, who, who like to work that way. Chris has a process that's very, you know, he's, he's, he's screening the movie all the time to, to people outside the business. He's, he's very, he's grinding away at it. And so I'll see it probably in, in a couple of months, you know, before it's done. I mean, Clint Eastwood, like I remember Clint Eastwood showed me, I did two movies with Clint and that was just, he, he screened it for me like a week before the premiere, but like, it wasn't like he was going to take notes.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  He's like, I hope you like it, you know?

• 44:04Speaker 00

  And so people have all different ways of working and and it's a director's medium, really, right? Like, they really are the boss and and, you know, but it can feel it's it or I look at it like a partnership, but you're the I'm the junior partner, right? So I want to give every good idea that I want to I want to be as helpful as possible. But at the end of the day, it's it's their name on the movie. It really is their, you know, they're the ones who are really kind of ruthlessly judged. I mean, I know actors are too, but but in in our world, it's really about the director.

• 44:36Travis Kelce?

  That's awesome, man.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, man. All right. Well, do you want to give us some Boston sports, maybe?

• 44:41Speaker 00

  Let's do it, baby. All right. What do you think about that? I I'm I'm a little nervous about the Chargers. I mean, they're, you know, I, you know, I love.

• 44:49Travis Kelce?

  Players over there, man. They got some ball players.

• 44:51Speaker 00

  They really do. They got some really great players, but so do we. And and I love I love Vrabel, man. Oh, my God. I love that guy.

• 44:59Speaker 03

  You got a good one. You guys got a good one.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  Unbelievable. I can't believe.

• 45:02Travis Kelce?

  This will be the battle of the minds between him and Harbaugh, man.

• 45:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:05Travis Kelce?

  It really will, man. Both of those guys, I got so much respect for both of those guys. And obviously, did you have you you you ran into Vrabel before?

• 45:13Speaker 00

  Uh, no, I've never met him. I've never met him. I've I've.

• 45:16Travis Kelce?

  A legend, dude.

• 45:17Speaker 00

  I've blown my voice out cheering for him like over the years, but I've never met him. And, you know, he just seems awesome, like all the other and the way he deals. It's like he took all of the best of Belichick and he's putting it through the filter of himself. And he and it's like, you know, everybody love, everybody loves the guy. And and Drake May is unbelievable, you know, he's just, he seems, he seems to have that Tom thing where he just doesn't get rattled.

• 45:43Travis Kelce?

  He's got this ability to kind of feel comfortable and almost Tom, Tom was unbelievable at dictating the tempo of a game. Like, every game that I felt like I played against him, it just felt like he always had, like, we were going at his pace.

• 45:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:56Travis Kelce?

  And and Drake kind of has that that feel to him, especially when he's clicking, you know?

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. And he's, what, 23? You know, so he's just just gonna get better. So I mean, I can't believe we got this lucky in New England to have.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  You guys had a three-year playoff drought and all of a sudden you got another franchise quarterback?

• 46:16Speaker 00

  It's nuts. It's I feel terrible. It's like people in Green Bay where they go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and you're like, come on, when does that happen? But, um, but no, it's, it's, it's, it's unbelievable. And, and given that my whole childhood, we sucked so bad. Like the Patriots were just.

• 46:35Travis Kelce?

  I mean, that was our childhood. We, we grew, we grew up in Cleveland. So.

• 46:38Speaker 00

  Oh, right. Yeah, right.

• 46:41Speaker 03

  They still, they're still not doing very good, but.

• 46:44Speaker 00

  They got some great players over there though.

• 46:46Speaker 03

  They do.

• 46:47Speaker 00

  How about Miles Garrett, man? Unbelievable.

• 46:49Speaker 03

  Heck of a year. Heck of a year.

• 46:50Travis Kelce?

  That's the last guy I'm trying to block.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  I'll tell you what, he's the physically probably the most gifted football player I've ever played football against.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  Really?

• 46:57Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 46:58Travis Kelce?

  Matt, when you line up against him, it feels like you're going up against a Power Ranger or like some like unearthly like.

• 47:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:05Travis Kelce?

  Mighty morphing like dude, I'm just like, I get in front of him just like, man, this guy knows that the coach is not about to put me in a position to block this dude.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  Please, coach.

• 47:16Speaker 00

  That's amazing. How about Aaron Donald? He was the other one, right? But.

• 47:20Travis Kelce?

  That's the one Jason got a, got a good taste of.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  Aaron was the hardest guy I had to block. I didn't really ever have to block Miles like that. And even Aaron, luckily we were double teamed him most of the time. So I didn't have to block him one on one. But Aaron just didn't have, he had his own physical traits, which were very good. Like he was incredibly strong and explosive. Miles has all that, but then he also has the length, just.

• 47:42Travis Kelce?

  The savviness.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Bigger sized person. Yeah. It's, it's kind of crazy when you think about both of those guys playing at the same time. They were the two most gifted defensive players I played against for sure. And I, I think another thing that it feels like Miles has done better with this year. Aaron also had this mentality where he just was relentless. He, no matter what you did, he would not stop. He kept going.

• 48:06Travis Kelce?

  He ever got tired.

• 48:07Speaker 03

  He was, he was like mad at you the entire time. Like, why are you mad at me? If I didn't do anything? I'm just trying to do my job, dude. But he was like pissed. If you, and it feels like Miles feels like he was more of that this year. Like there was a relentlessness to Miles that I think you felt all season long from him. And with those traits and that mentality, you saw an incredible season from him for sure. But I do want to ask you this. How do you think the Patriots will do in the playoffs? Is it like in New England? Is it, are you guys so spoiled that it's like if they don't win the Super Bowl, you guys are going to be upset?

• 48:40Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no.

• 48:41Speaker 03

  Okay. All right. Go ahead.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  Not at all. I mean, this is a new, this is a new team, right? And I think, I think this is like found money for us, right? Like, I feel like it's, it's like

• 48:51Speaker 03

  You guys busted up in the wall. You thought a quarterback. $20 million quarterback sitting in the wall.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  We broke in, it took the sledgehammer and there was Drake May. Yeah, no, and I, I feel, I don't know, personally, I can't speak for everybody in New England, but look, if we get bounced in the first round, I still think this is a massive year for us, right? It's like, okay, so like the future is really bright for us with the coach that we have, with that, with the, with the organization and like with, with Bob Crapp, with the way that whole thing is set up and with that quarterback and those, I mean, I feel like we're in a really good spot. Obviously, we want to see him go as far as they can, but and nobody's going to be like, you know, oh, this is bullshit if they don't, if they don't, you know what I mean? It's like, nobody was expecting them to be there. I mean, we were expecting to kind of run into this Buffalo wall for years, right?

• 49:42Speaker 00

  And that wall is still there, by the way. That team will be, that team's still very

• 49:46Speaker 03

  Josh isn't going anywhere.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  He's unbelievable. And so it's fun. It'll be competitive. I was talking to a buddy of mine. I was like, this year has been so much fun because there are like 10 teams who could win the Super Bowl and you'd be like, I'm not surprised, you know?

• 49:59Travis Kelce?

  It really is, man.

• 50:00Speaker 00

  It's so fun, you know?

• 50:02Travis Kelce?

  So wide open.

• 50:03Speaker 00

  When you had those like New England dynasties or Kansas City dynasties, it's not fun for anybody else. It's only fun for us.

• 50:11Speaker 03

  Well done. Well done. I do, every time I, I thought the whole year, like the Patriots, it feels like they're a few pieces away. Like, I'm like, ah, they don't really have this, the kind of Level of talent you think they need, but they just every week they find a way to win. And I'm with you this, the more I watch Drake May, the more I'm just like so impressed with his tempo. He makes everything look easy. Like when he's back there and he throws the ball.

• 50:37Travis Kelce?

  It's the simplest decision he had to make.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Right.

• 50:40Travis Kelce?

  It's like, it's like, why is this game so easy to this guy?

• 50:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's right. It feels it's like inevitable. It's like, oh, obviously that was gonna happen, you know? Yeah, it's, it's, it shouldn't be that, it shouldn't look that easy.

• 50:51Speaker 03

  No.

• 50:52Travis Kelce?

  Well, speaking of Patriot quarterbacks, Ben, obviously friend of the show, he was on here talking about the greatest moment of his life, other than the birth of his children, was running routes with Brady.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  I can't believe he got to do that. I can't believe he got to do that.

• 51:06Travis Kelce?

  The way he told the story was iconic, man.

• 51:09Speaker 00

  I mean, I got mad. I was like, you're gonna fuck up his timing. You're so slow. Like, don't play catch with Brady unless you're just standing still. Like, don't do that. But yeah, no, I can't, I'm jealous he got to do that.

• 51:22Travis Kelce?

  I was gonna say, what's your, what's your best or your favorite Boston sports moment?

• 51:26Speaker 00

  Well, mine's super personal, cuz I, cuz I, my best Boston sports moment actually was, was in 1999 at the celebrity, at the All-Star game. I did the hitting challenge thing, but then that night, they let us onto the field to take batting practice at midnight.

• 51:42Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 51:43Speaker 00

  And my dad was a pitcher. He was a left-handed pitcher and, and he, and we were taking batting practice. He was trying to get, he wanted me to hit the ball. He wasn't trying to strike me out. But I hit one off the green monster off my dad.

• 51:56Travis Kelce?

  Oh my gosh.

• 51:58Speaker 00

  And it literally happened and we both looked at each other and I was like, I'll never need therapy in my life.

• 52:05Travis Kelce?

  I'll just go back to this moment.

• 52:07Speaker 00

  That's it. We're good.

• 52:08Travis Kelce?

  Oh, that's so fucking cool.

• 52:10Speaker 00

  But in terms of the great teams, like I, like there are so many, you know, so many unbelievable moments and yeah, and Brady gave us, oh my God, him alone, that guy just gave us 20 years of him. So we, we're, you know, we don't deserve Drake May. We'll take him.

• 52:29Travis Kelce?

  That's so iconic, man.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  Have you ever gotten any working with Brady? Have you met Tom?

• 52:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know him. I've, I've, I met him a bunch over the years and like, yeah, he's, he, he, he just, I don't know, to me, for you guys, cause you, you guys excel at that championship level. And to me, it always strikes me across anything that you do. It's always the people who do the extra work, the extra thing, like, I remember the year after we went, New England went 18 and 1 and we lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl and I had dinner with Tom and a bunch of guys and, you know, they, they brought a bottle of red wine around and everyone's getting a glass of red wine and Tom's like, "No." And I looked at him and I was like, "Really?" I'm like, "It's May, like, your camp starts in like two months." And he was like, "No." Like, he was just like, he was in that like, "I'm, I'm,

• 53:17Speaker 00

  my life, I'm gonna live my commitment to this thing." You know what I mean? And, and he just had that insane discipline and, and, uh, I took my nephew to a game once down in Miami. We were living down there and my nephew played football, it was played, you know, in the, in the, in the little Pembroke Pines League down in Miami. And I took him, and I was like, "Tom, I'm bringing my nephew." And he was nine at the time. And, and we get to the, you know, we're, we're down on the field, everybody's warming up and he's like, "Am I gonna get to meet Tom?" And I'm like, "Probably not now, maybe after the game." They're like, "Look, he's, he's about to go to work, you know, Troy, this is a real, you know, he's working right now, this is serious." Sure enough, Tom comes running over, he's like already sweating, he's just warmed up. My nephew's sitting on the, on the bench and he's, he's sitting at the end of the bench

• 54:02Speaker 00

  and Tom runs up to him and gets in his face and he's like, "You gonna root for me today, Troy?"

• 54:11Travis Kelce?

  You kidding me?

• 54:12Speaker 00

  He's looking up at him and he just can't talk. And he just nods, he just nods. And Tom goes, Tom goes, gets in his face, like, they're both nine years old and goes, "We're gonna kill these guys."

• 54:27Travis Kelce?

  Dude, he's iconic, dude.

• 54:28Speaker 00

  He couldn't have meant it more either. It was unbelievable. And then he runs off to the locker room. I was like, "That was the greatest thing I've ever seen."

• 54:37Speaker 00

  But it was like two nine year olds talking to each other.

• 54:39Travis Kelce?

  Hell yeah. We're gonna fucking smoke.

• 54:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, literally. I mean, there might have been an F-bomb in there.

• 54:46Speaker 03

  For sure. Yeah.

• 54:47Travis Kelce?

  You gotta make sure he feels it. You gotta make sure.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's gotta know.

• 54:50Travis Kelce?

  Um, how do you rank your, uh, Boston sports fandoms by the sport? Sox, Pats, Celtics, Bruins?

• 54:58Speaker 00

  That's tough. I would definitely say Red Sox, kind of for, for me growing up, that was the thing. Like, that was the, definitely, um, the top, and the, the sport I played the most. Um, and then basketball, I played a lot too. So, so if you, you know, if you had asked me, when I was growing up, I would have said baseball, basketball, football, hockey. But when I look at, I just because I guess, everybody, we just bought into that. Like, everybody got so caught up in like.

• 55:29Travis Kelce?

  Oh, you get wrapped in it, I'm sure.

• 55:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, we got, if I actually think of what I spent more time watching, like the last 20 years, probably football. Yeah.

• 55:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. Not including football, who's your favorite, uh, Boston sports athlete? Like, who, who's your guy from growing up that you're like, that's my, like Travis's is Carlos Baerga from the Cleveland Indians.

• 55:49Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to Carlos, man.

• 55:51Speaker 00

  I got, I got Carlton Fisk.

• 55:55Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 55:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was, he was, uh.

• 55:57Travis Kelce?

  Over on the mantle. Let's go.

• 55:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. It was a big part of, like, we wrote the whole scene in Good Will Hunting about him and, and, uh, there's a whole kind of reference to him in that movie. And there was a whole team, you know, in 77, 78, those guys, like, I, you know, I used to go through, you know, we have batting practice and I'd go through all their stances from each side of the, like, I just knew, you know, that those were my guys.

• 56:20Travis Kelce?

  All of it, man. Go to the game, get the, get the program, start to keep score in the back, man.

• 56:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's just the best.

• 56:26Speaker 03

  Well, let me ask you this. Where's, you mentioned the Green Monster. I, I was fortunate to like go get a tour at that ballpark when I was, uh, visiting Boston in high school for some reason. What, where's the best place to sit in that stadium? Like, it's such an, it's like that and Wrigley Field are like the two baseball stadiums are the most iconic. It's the best seat in the stadium, you think?

• 56:48Speaker 00

  There are a lot of them, actually, depending on, I mean, now, like, what they've done now by putting seats up on the Green Monster, like, that's insane up there. I went to, I sat in the, kind of the last box next to those seats a couple of years ago, when I went up, and that was, that was absolutely crazy.

• 57:08Travis Kelce?

  I was fortunate enough, I went to, when they were doing the, the one game wildcard playoff scenarios, Boston actually played the Yankees in, at Fenway. I was there, they, they won one, nothing. I was actually sitting up on the Green Monster.

• 57:23Speaker 00

  No way.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  You sat on the Green Monster?

• 57:26Travis Kelce?

  I sat on the Green Monster and literally saw a line drive come, probably 10 feet from, or 10 yards from me. And when it hit that monster, dude, it felt like, dude, it was, boom, and everybody's going nuts, dude. It was, Boston's an unbelievable sports town, man.

• 57:43Speaker 00

  Did they leave you alone up there in the monster?

• 57:46Travis Kelce?

  Uh, yeah, it wasn't too bad. Some of the, some of the Air Force had some fun with me, but, um, yeah, it was, it was all, dude, I'm here for it, man. I'm here for it. What's up Travis? What are you doing here, bro? Yeah, exactly.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 57:59Travis Kelce?

  You already know. It was epic, dude. I'm, I'm here for the chatter anyway, all day, baby. How much do you hate Jason and the Eagles for beating the Pats in Super Bowl 52?

• 58:08Speaker 03

  Come on, Travis.

• 58:08Speaker 00

  Well, I, well, congratulations, Jay. I, I still don't understand why he didn't put Malcolm Butler in the game. I will never understand that.

• 58:16Speaker 03

  It's a fair question.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  Like, I, because I think, did we, did we punt that game? I don't know if we, we might have punted once.

• 58:23Travis Kelce?

  It was a high scoring game.

• 58:25Speaker 00

  Tom, Tommy threw for like 500 and something yards. Nobody ever done that.

• 58:29Speaker 03

  It was just a mess of a performance, yeah.

• 58:30Speaker 00

  It was just unreal. And like, we just needed to stop you guys. Like, we never stopped you, Jason.

• 58:35Travis Kelce?

  One of the best Super Bowls ever, man.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  I think we punted once, and I think that was the only punt, if I remember correctly.

• 58:42Speaker 00

  I wonder, actually, I'll bet you, I'll, I'll tell you what, man, we might have punted, if we punted at all, we punted once, probably. That, that's probably gotta be the record for the least punts in a Super Bowl.

• 58:54Speaker 03

  Well, it was, it was the highest scoring game, and then I think we broke the game, that record again when we played Travis in the Super Bowl. I think that was the only other one that got higher scoring or something like that. But Tom's day, that was his best Super Bowl of his career.

• 59:08Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, the Patriots did that punt. The Patriots didn't, yeah, the punters were, both punters were Having a having a coke and some popcorn on the sideline that game.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:18Speaker 03

  It's a fair question.

• 59:19Speaker 00

  He never, he never answered it though. Like, so I always wondered about that. Like, what, there was something personal, there was something weird because it's like, why does a guy play 99% of the snaps? And then you tell him while the national anthem's playing that he's not playing.

• 59:31Travis Kelce?

  Caliber, man.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  And then you gotta switch everybody around to different positions like that they haven't played. It's like they're suddenly in a preseason.

• 59:38Travis Kelce?

  For the past two weeks.

• 59:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I just something, something weird about it, man. I could never figure that out.

• 59:45Speaker 03

  Didn't he, I think he got in trouble for like missing a meeting or something like that, didn't he? There was something leading up to it.

• 59:50Travis Kelce?

  But there was. That meeting.

• 59:52Speaker 00

  I know.

• 59:52Speaker 03

  I agree, I agree. But this is, it's kind of like.

• 59:55Travis Kelce?

  Tell me, tell me what I missed.

• 59:56Speaker 00

  It's also the thing, it's like for me.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  Patriot way, though. You can't be missing meetings, you know this?

• 1:00:00Speaker 00

  But, but then maybe after the first quarter, when, when you can't stop their offense, maybe you're like, okay, you learned your lesson, get in there. Or maybe after the first half, okay, now I've really, you know, I've proved my point, but like, you never put the dude in.

• 1:00:15Speaker 03

  It really is actually, I think, more selfish, not to play the best guy, because like, everybody else wants to win.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  By the way, the Patriot, the Patriots way is do your job, right? The Patriots way is you got 53 guys who gave up absolutely everything. They gave, they sacrificed everything and you're, and that's your whole thing. And so like, what does it say if like, you have an axe to grind with somebody that you're not going to play him? Like, it's just.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:00:39Speaker 00

  It's, yeah, it's your fault. It's kind of selfish.

• 1:00:42Travis Kelce?

  It feels weird, yeah. It definitely feels like there was something else.

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  Ego is the enemy of everything. That's my, that's my, it really is. Like, it certainly in my line of work, like, if, if you can't just, like, your allegiance has to be to the best idea. Like, you're all, you're all a lesser part of the thing you're making. And, and you gotta put that first. And if, if you do that, if everyone does that, it's gonna be, everything's gonna work out.

• 1:01:06Speaker 03

  Have you felt like you've been able to do that your whole career? Or do you get to a point where you've been through that enough where it's like, all right, selfishy, I want to go in, I feel like this is the best thing. But in order to, for this to work out the best, we really need to operate together in a different.

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  No, I never, I never feel like those things are like mutually exclusive. I never feel, I always feel like my best interest is aligned with making the thing that we're making is as good as we can make it. And, and that it requires everybody to have that attitude. And so like when I, when I hear stories, I've never, I don't think I've ever been on a set where somebody was really misbehaving or anything like that was happening. I hear those stories. I'm like mystified by those stories. I'm like, man, the fuck was that person doing like, like, you know what I mean? Like,

• 1:01:52Travis Kelce?

  Sure.

• 1:01:52Speaker 00

  It's all about like, just trying to make the thing as good as you can make it. And it's a collaborative project.

• 1:01:58Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah. Be a good teammate, man.

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And with the director who is the director, it's like a benevolent dictatorship, like the director. Basically.

• 1:02:07Travis Kelce?

  Get 51%.

• 1:02:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. 51%.

• 1:02:10Travis Kelce?

  Coach Andy, Andy Reid's the director. He's getting 51%. This is bullshit. Travis, shut up. Got it.

• 1:02:19Speaker 00

  Exactly. There you go. But if you really like that guy, right? You know, or woman, if you really like that leader that you have, right? Then that's, that's a perfect deal. Cause, cause you're, cause you're never going to be misaligned with them. Cause you kind of see things the same way.

• 1:02:33Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, absolutely. That's cool to hear. It kind of translates into, into your line of work and your world too, man.

• 1:02:38Speaker 00

  I think like the, the older I get, the more crossover there is kind of in all this stuff about like how you approach stuff. And it makes me think about how to talk to my kids about that. And like whatever they want to do, you know, these, these things will, uh, will kind of bear, yeah. Bearing across all, you know, all of these different kinds of disciplines. Cause, um, because they kind of work for everything.

• 1:03:00Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:01Speaker 00

  Hey, is it too, are you, are you, have you announced Trav? If you're going to keep playing, is there a still, are you, is that a big secret at this point? Do you take time at this point? Like the?

• 1:03:09Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. I think I'm just gonna take some time, let it, let it kind of fizzle out, let everything happen, get away from the game. Uh, first time I've not had a job in January in a long time. So I'm going to go ahead and enjoy, you know, hanging out with some family and

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:24Travis Kelce?

  Putting my feet up, watching some football, seeing how this, this crazy, anybody can win it, uh, type of season, uh, plays out. But yeah, I'm, I'm just trying to figure it all out myself. And, um, I'll do that with the, with the, the family and. Friends and you know.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  No, yeah, yeah, no, I it's a big decision. I remember Michael Strahan years ago came came over to watch the Super Bowl and he was thinking about retiring and and and we're the same age and I was like, come on, man, you're we're in our prime, you're, you know, and he was like, look, it it takes a lot to get ready, you know, there's a lot of work that goes into it. And, you know, he was telling me all that kept pushing and kept pushing. Finally, he turns to me, he goes, Matt, I get in 35 car accidents a week.

• 1:04:10Travis Kelce?

  And he's the one doing, yeah.

• 1:04:12Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, so, yeah, he's he's initiating them, yeah.

• 1:04:15Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:15Speaker 00

  But that that's a real consideration, like, you know, and and it's easy to sit at home, enjoy watching you guys play and be like, why don't they play another season?

• 1:04:24Travis Kelce?

  Yes, I mean, when when you get the call when you're 45, like Philip Rivers, baby.

• 1:04:29Speaker 00

  God, how good was that?

• 1:04:31Travis Kelce?

  You're never out of it, dude.

• 1:04:32Speaker 00

  I was so pulling for him.

• 1:04:33Travis Kelce?

  Everyone loved it, dude. We all wanted him to go and fucking get him into the playoffs, or at least put up some dubs. And, um, yeah, man, that shit was epic.

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  He did a good job.

• 1:04:42Speaker 00

  As a great, I thought he did do a really good job. And as a granddad, man, I was like, unbelievable, like.

• 1:04:47Speaker 03

  It's insane.

• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, with his high school team watching.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  Playing the game was awesome to watch, but then even his comments after the game about just like not being afraid and like facing, like, I just think it was.

• 1:04:59Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, having that courage, yeah.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  Man, he's such a, just a, the pinnacle of what a quarterback and like a football player is. So it was awesome to see him back out there.

• 1:05:06Speaker 00

  It is also cool to see guys like, you guys get so much better at your job. It's such a weird thing because you guys get better at your job, but your skills, you know, decline as you age. And so.

• 1:05:16Speaker 03

  Mentally, mentally, you keep going this way.

• 1:05:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:19Speaker 03

  Fortunately, the physical aspects start going down.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  When he got out there, he looked like he hadn't missed a beat, like he the game was slow for him. He was like, no, I know what this app, I've seen that before. I know what they're gonna do.

• 1:05:28Travis Kelce?

  It felt like he was in control, yeah.

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, totally. So that was really, that was really cool. I've always thought that's a tough part of of, you know, the the athlete's life is is, um, I talked to a baseball player once who was kind of a journeyman second baseman. And he was retired, he was like 37. And he was, he was retiring. And I said, what happened? And he was like, well, he's like, look, my bread and butter was a 95 mile an hour fastball. And, and he goes, someone threw me a 95 mile an hour fastball. My eyes got big and I swung and I was late.

• 1:06:01Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:01Speaker 00

  And I looked at the catcher and the catcher looked at me and then I looked at the pitcher and he goes, and he gave me another one and I was late again. He struck me out on three pitches. He goes, and then, you know, there with all the analytics, they're all looking at it. He goes, within two weeks I was out of the league. Like everybody was throwing this fastball. And, and he goes, the sad thing for me is that I, I, he goes, I know more about hitting now. He goes, if you, if you put my 37 year old brain in my 21 year old body, I'd be in the Hall of Fame.

• 1:06:29Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's crazy to imagine like that, but you're, yeah.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  That's a crazy thing because I was, I was about his age and I was like, I'm just getting into the meat of my career now. Like this is, this is getting more and more fun. And that's, that's, it's a tough decision, man. It's a tough decision. So I feel for you. Whatever you make is going to be the right decision though.

• 1:06:48Travis Kelce?

  Like we said earlier, man, this is a silly life I get to live, brother. So whether, whether, whether I'm coming back on the field or not, man, I'm, I'm, I'm still living it to the fullest, man.

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  Well, and you guys, this is great too. This whole forum and everything that you guys made here is like, it's like, see, there's a lot, you know? It was like, well, like Strahan said to me years ago, you know, like he, he had, he, there was another life after that he, that he was excited about too. So.

• 1:07:11Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. And Strahan, man, he's been a, an awesome dude to me since I've been in the league and helped me numerous off seasons, uh, trying to figure things out. So shout out to Stray.

• 1:07:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:22Travis Kelce?

  Always looking out, man.

• 1:07:24Speaker 03

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• 1:07:26Travis Kelce?

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• 1:07:46Travis Kelce?

  How about it? One episode for every hour. That sounds, that sounds pretty intense.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

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• 1:07:55Travis Kelce?

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• 1:08:00Travis Kelce?

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• 1:09:43Speaker 04

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• 1:09:44Speaker 03

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• 1:09:55Speaker 04

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• 1:10:19Speaker 04

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• 1:10:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, listen, I can get on board with this morning routine very easily.

• 1:10:26Travis Kelce?

  Let's go ahead and get into this last segment. It's called, we gotta ask, but you don't have to answer. You can tell us to fuck off. You were talking about your kids earlier as a fellow father of four girls. What is your piece? What is your best piece of girl dad advice for Jason over here?

• 1:10:42Speaker 00

  Man, I got nothing. I got nothing for you.

• 1:10:46Speaker 00

  You're in it. You're in it. I heard before we started, I heard the kids in the back. I was like, oh, my God. You know, I do. I do have to say that, you know, there was a, you guys went to eat, or at least your wife did at a restaurant in Montana. Ming Sai is the chef there and Ming's a friend of mine and he told me, and this was the greatest thing. He goes, Jason Kelce's wife is a rock star.

• 1:11:10Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, Kai.

• 1:11:13Speaker 00

  He literally was like, she came in, he goes, she's got like an eight month old on one arm. She's got a toddler here. She got, she have four kids hanging off her. He was like, she is a boss. It was like, it was very, very cool. So I don't think I need to give you any advice because it sounds like you married the right woman. She's a boss, you know?

• 1:11:31Speaker 03

  She is a boss and she's got to deal with me too, a fifth kid.

• 1:11:36Speaker 03

  I unfortunately missed that because I do Monday night football, but I heard she's phenomenal. She's incredible with the kids. The only bit of advice, whenever I get, I get asked that question too. And my first thing I tell people with advice with kids is don't listen to any advice, anybody else gives.

• 1:11:54Speaker 03

  They're all so different. I don't know how you feel about yours, but the moment one comes out there, like more sensitive, this one's a little bit more like rambunctious, like every single one of them is like their own person. And it's like right away, like the moment they start talking, it feels like they're different.

• 1:12:11Speaker 00

  Man, I used to have, I used to be a real, you know, in that nature nurture argument. But I'm now on this like nature, like that's a thing, you know, like your kids show up like that spirit, that soul is there and it's going to do what it's going to do. And the nurture part is very important. You're going to be a part of helping with that. But, but. They really are who they are like right away and and and it's that's like a been a profound and they and as they grow older, you still see in their infant face, you still see them as they're, you know, it's the only thing I'd say, an old friend of mine said when my when my nineteen year old was probably eighteen months,

• 1:12:50Speaker 00

  said, don't blink, don't blink. And then that and that is that shit is real. My daughter broke her collarbone and and this morning she was getting ready for school. She's seventeen and she asked me to brush her hair. And so I I brushed her hair and I mean, it was a like I hadn't brushed her hair. I don't know, eight, nine years, you know what I mean? But but you're at that stage now where it's like you get them ready. It's like you're brushing.

• 1:13:18Speaker 03

  You gotta do all of it.

• 1:13:19Speaker 00

  They're lined up and you're like, you gotta get it, right? And and those and it's the great and I don't remember the last time that I don't remember when I brushed her hair for the last time. It just kind of happened and then life kind of kept going and the changes are so incremental that like you don't realize until until I I ran the hairbrush through her hair and it's the same like all of it. It's you know what I mean?

• 1:13:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:42Speaker 00

  And it it buckled me, man. It's like so so don't blink.

• 1:13:45Speaker 03

  That's awesome. Okay, I like that. I like that a lot. All right. Um, you mentioned just a second ago about how, you know, an athlete learns more and they actually know more. They wish they knew more when they were younger. As an actor, writer, producer, is there something you know now that you really wish you knew when you were younger?

• 1:14:03Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, it's the same because I it's like it's for me, how would I would love to go back and remake all the movies again? You know what I mean? And and like, I remember, you know, working with Steven Spielberg early on in my career and going like, I don't know enough about filmmaking to be next to this man right now. Like, I have so many questions and I don't know what the right questions are yet. And so I remember just following him around and just I remember everything that guy ever said to me because I was trying to bank it because I knew it was going to come in handy. And then as you know, in the intervening thirty years or whatever, I've I I things That he said have come back as I've kind of learned him and oh man, that's what he was talking about.

• 1:14:45Speaker 00

  You know, so those kinds of things, I, I, I really got lucky in that I got to work with some amazing people and I'd love to be able to go back through that process and work with, even if I could just work with the people that I've already worked with again. There's so much I didn't know and, and, uh, and that's kind of the fun thing about making movies. It's like, it's, it's, it's always a different job. The challenges of a day are always different and, uh, and it's always fun.

• 1:15:08Travis Kelce?

  Battle of the unknown. Well, uh, you're talking about, uh, some of your previous movies. Um, friend of the show, George Clooney told us that.

• 1:15:16Speaker 00

  Don't listen to anything that guy says.

• 1:15:18Travis Kelce?

  You guys are in talks with another oceans movie.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. I thought he was gonna play some fucking practical joke on me.

• 1:15:28Travis Kelce?

  I love that. That's immediately where it goes.

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  He's just, and he, and he'll do the long ones that just go for, you know, it's, he set it up nine years ago.

• 1:15:38Speaker 00

  No, yeah, well, they're, yeah, they're talking about it. Um, you know, I don't know. We'll see, uh, you know, these things, there's always, they're always talking about it's a, it's a, it's a weird business. You never know how things will coalesce and, um, I mean, I'd love, I'd love that group of guys and obviously we're, we're down a few now. You know, um, we've lost a couple over the years, but like the, there's a lot of love in that group for sure. So, yeah, if we can get our shit together, that'd be a lot of fun.

• 1:16:05Travis Kelce?

  Heck yeah.

• 1:16:06Speaker 03

  We have a clip here from school ties where you play a football player.

• 1:16:09Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  Would, would you mind breaking this play down for us?

• 1:16:13Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:16:15Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:16:16Speaker 00

  Oh, let's go.

• 1:16:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:20Travis Kelce?

  No bar, baby. Let's go.

• 1:16:22Speaker 03

  Run your ass off for me.

• 1:16:23Speaker 00

  He said, block your ass off.

• 1:16:25Speaker 03

  Block your ass off.

• 1:16:26Speaker 00

  Watch, watch what Brendan Fraser does to me.

• 1:16:29Speaker 03

  Dude, look at Brendan Fraser.

• 1:16:31Speaker 00

  I really want to, I really wanted to score the touchdown.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  But he's a good player. So guess what, Matt?

• 1:16:42Speaker 03

  That's a textbook cut.

• 1:16:44Travis Kelce?

  Team player, baby. This is like, this is legendary dude.

• 1:16:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, not only could I not do the cut block, he actually had to throw me in to the right position. Yeah, that was the first, uh, first feature film that I had a big role in and Ben's in that movie too. That was a good, it was Ben, Ben, uh, Ben Affleck's in that Cole Hauser's in that. Uh, Brendan, Chris O'Donnell's in there. Like there's a really, there's a, there's a hell of a group of guys, but we were all 20 years old.

• 1:17:18Travis Kelce?

  That's crazy. That was awesome. When you made the movie, uh, Air.

• 1:17:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:23Travis Kelce?

  Did you, did you get a chance to, to meet Mike?

• 1:17:25Speaker 00

  No, Ben, Ben went down and talked to Mike and I was supposed to go, but my kids had something that day. So I stayed here and, uh, and Ben went down to meet Mike and because this was before we made the deal to do it. Cause we knew that if, if Mike didn't, wasn't down with it, then you know.

• 1:17:44Travis Kelce?

  You guys wanted to respect that.

• 1:17:46Speaker 00

  A respected and B like there, there would be no like, we'd put all this work into a movie. And then if, if Jordan came out and was like, that's bullshit. Like the movie's just dead.

• 1:17:55Travis Kelce?

  No, I hear you.

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  So, but we want, we, we wanted his, his blessing, even though, you know, he wasn't going to be a part of it. It wasn't hit, you know, we, but Ben went down and talked to him and, and, and a lot came out of that meeting. In fact, he gave us kind of, people who were more instrumental than we understood from the, the original script we read. So, we rewrote it. The biggest thing he said was, um, cause Ben asked him about his, his, uh, his parents and he was like, you know, what, you know, what, what role did your dad play? What do you need? And, and, and Mike said, he go, he was like, um, my dad was a great guy and he goes, my mom runs shit.

• 1:18:34Travis Kelce?

  Really?

• 1:18:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Ben was like, really? And he was like, yeah, my mom runs shit. And Ben was like, oh shit, I talked to you.

• 1:18:40Travis Kelce?

  For sure.

• 1:18:41Speaker 00

  He was like, you, you, he was like, you want to try to call my mother? He was like, no, like, and, and Ben was like, okay. Well, who should play your mother? And before he got mother out, Mike was like Viola Davis.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:18:54Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:18:54Speaker 03

  Just knew it right away.

• 1:18:55Speaker 00

  Ben called me up from Florida where he was meeting with them and he was like, dude, good news, bad news. I'm like, what? He's like, but we got Mike's blessing. He's like, he's like, we gotta rewrite the entire script because it's all about, it's all about his mother. And I go, okay, you know, great. And he, and he goes, oh, I go, what's the bad news? And he goes, there's only one actor who will, and I was like, who? And he's like, Viola Davis. And I'm like, all right, you want me to call, we, we gotta call American treasure, Viola Davis.

• 1:19:23Speaker 00

  Listen, we can't make this movie unless you make it with us. So that was, there was a great young writer on that, on that project and, and he, we kind of rebuilt the whole thing around her character. Um, and try to make a role that was worthy of, you know, Viola.

• 1:19:42Speaker 03

  That's awesome. Very cool. Very cool. Is there anybody that you've worked with? You worked with a lot of acting legends, but is there anyone that you were starstruck with on set?

• 1:19:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I think that's happened a lot of times to me. Uh, but, um, I went on, on Saving Private Ryan, um, Tom Hanks said something to all of us. I, where actually I, I asked him about a, he did this movie a long time ago called Nothing in Common, and Jackie Gleason played his father. And Jackie Gleason was like this, you know, bigger than life, uh, you know, star of The Honeymooners and all this. And, and I asked him, Tom, about it. And, and Tom said, I asked him if he was nervous. And Tom goes, you know what? He stopped and he goes, I made the decision not to be nervous. I made the decision not to be intimidated by, and it was, it was really good advice. I was like 25 or

• 1:20:32Speaker 00

  26 and it was, and it was like, you know, you gotta just approach the work, you know, and you gotta approach people kind of as they are, you know what I mean? It was just like a very, it was very helpful in the sense that, you know, I, I think I, I could have been intimidated by a lot of the people that I am, um, because I, because I'm a fan of theirs, you know, I'm a fan. And I, and I, and I still feel that way about a lot of people I work with. I did, but it's more, more like it's, it's, it's better to appreciate them for the work that they do. Um, but leave the rest of the shit at, at the door so that you can actually get some work done.

• 1:21:09Travis Kelce?

  That's awesome advice, man. Shout out to Tom Hanks, man.

• 1:21:12Speaker 03

  I'm gonna start using that advice.

• 1:21:14Travis Kelce?

  The man with one red shoe, baby. Let's go.

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  The money pit.

• 1:21:20Travis Kelce?

  We always end the segment by asking everyone, what was their welcome to Hollywood moment? The story you just told us was pretty fucking iconic early in your career, but was there ever a moment that was just like, holy shit, I'm doing this or could it be good, could be bad, could be just, you know?

• 1:21:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think the biggest, like the one I think about all the time is when Good Will Hunting, when we, you know, it was such a like a roller coaster from, from writing it to selling it to, you know, developing it to going to turn around to getting picked up at another studio. There's all this stuff that the first day we were shooting and we were actually rolling film and the movie was getting made and, and it was a scene between Stellan Skarsgård and Robin Williams. Ben and I weren't even in the scene, but we went to watch and when they called action and those two like heavyweight actors, amazing actors started talking, started saying the shit that we wrote, like we just, just tears

• 1:22:20Speaker 00

  coming down. And I think that was like, that was, that was definitely a kind of an amazing moment. Cause it was like, this is real, like even if nothing happens with this movie, like we got it made.

• 1:22:31Travis Kelce?

  We're doing it.

• 1:22:32Speaker 00

  We were like, we were like Rocky in the first one where it's like, we didn't even want the belt. We just wanted to go 15 rounds and be, and still be there. And so that was kind of the moment where we were like, this movie is actually going to happen.

• 1:22:44Speaker 03

  That's awesome.

• 1:22:45Travis Kelce?

  Fucking iconic.

• 1:22:46Speaker 03

  If you had any advice for somebody that was looking into getting into writing or acting or what would your advice be? Like what's, what's the best way to get started or learn or? Yeah. I don't know.

• 1:22:58Speaker 00

  Well, it's like a trade. So it's, it's to do it, you know?

• 1:23:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:02Speaker 00

  And so find really good people to stud, to, to study under and try to apprentice yourself to. And, um, you know, if you're, if you want to write screenplays, I'd go probably online. Now you can probably get every screenplay. Just read, just read, you know, read 10 of them a week and just start by osmosis. You'll start to understand kind of the form. Read the movies that you like and see what they look like in script form and, and, and then read movies even that you don't like very much. And see what they look like and and and that's kind of how I that's kind of how we did it. We we kind of backed into writing because because we were unemployed. Nobody wanted us. And so we were like, we better write our own thing. And we were kind of able to do that because we'd read so many hundreds of scripts.

• 1:23:46Speaker 00

  And and then seen those movies get made and seen what became of them and see see. We had seen what got cut out and and what survived and what worked on the page and what worked on the screen and all that stuff. So, yeah, the more you can expose yourself to it and be around other people who are interested in it and and, you know, make it make it a focus for for your time and energy, then, you know, the better the better shot you have. It's a brutal business, though, you know, I wouldn't, you know, my old answer to that was always like, I would just, I just tell people, don't do it. Don't do it. No, honestly, because every single person told us not to do it. Like, everybody, there was nobody in my life who said, yeah, this is good. You should do this. Like, it was a suicide mission, basically, you know.

• 1:24:30Speaker 00

  Like, you're not going to make any money. You're not going to, you know, you're just going to go out and get beaten down by the world. It's like a, you know, in the first hundred times you go audition, you usually just get rejected and it's humiliating. And it's like, you know, you gotta have, you gotta really, really, really want. Do you think the landscape has changed at all from when you were trying to come up? Totally, totally, totally different business. Like, I don't, I don't know what to, I have trouble because I don't know where the business is going. And so I don't know what to tell, but but the things that matter still matter. Like, if you love acting, if you love writing, then then it's, it doesn't matter where the business is going. You're going to find your place in the business. But but but, yeah, just just doing it as much as you can. Like, it really is, it's a trade.

• 1:25:15Speaker 00

  Like, people try to put all this hocus pocus around it, but it's like, you know, being a carpenter, like, you know, can you build a house, right? So just start, start working on that and and eventually you'll be able to.

• 1:25:27Travis Kelce?

  Get out what you put in, man.

• 1:25:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

• 1:25:30Travis Kelce?

  Thank you for the wisdom. Thank you for the stories. Appreciate the time, man.

• 1:25:35Speaker 00

  Thank you, guys, man.

• 1:25:36Travis Kelce?

  And thank you. Thank you for the rip, man. On Netflix, January 16th, everybody go check it out. Matt Damon, ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:25:43Speaker 00

  I really appreciate it. You guys are awesome. Bro, you're a fucking legend. Thank you for having me, man. This is awesome. I really do watch you guys a lot, like, for a dude who's supposed to have a job.

• 1:25:57Travis Kelce?

  We appreciate it, man.

• 1:25:58Speaker 03

  Sorry for taking up your real space.

• 1:26:03Speaker 00

  I am going to get recommended this on my fucking phone. It's gonna be great.

• 1:26:08Speaker 03

  Alrighty, everybody. That wraps up this episode of New Heights. Thank you so much to Matt Damon.

• 1:26:14Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:15Speaker 03

  This is absurd that we get to talk to an individual of his stature and we will take full advantage of it. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

• 1:26:33Travis Kelce?

  Once again, New Heights and Wondery Show brought to you by Intuit Turbo Tax. Don't forget to do your taxes, ladies and gentlemen. You can make it a whole lot easier by doing it with Intuit Turbo Tax. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. We got a bunch of them for you, man. Matt Damon, thank you so much. Thank you to the New Heights production, the team for making this thing a fun ride for all of us. And thank you to the 92%ers for tuning in. Hope you guys enjoyed it. We'll see you next week.

• 1:27:09Speaker 03

  Alrighty, I don't know about that.

• 1:27:13Travis Kelce?

  Unique New York. Unique New York.

• 1:27:16Speaker 03

  Did you hear that?

• 1:27:17Travis Kelce?

  Did you just rip it?

• 1:27:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:19Travis Kelce?

  I thought that was you. Yeah.

• 1:27:22Speaker 03

  I was holding it in the entire Matt Damon interview, not gonna lie.

• 1:27:26Travis Kelce?

  Respectable man.

• 1:27:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, talking to a fucking legend.

• 1:27:30Travis Kelce?

  You should have saw if you broke.

• 1:27:36Speaker 03

  Do I smell something through my... Do you guys smell that?

• 1:27:38Travis Kelce?

  Why do I taste that?

• 1:27:41Travis Kelce?

  You can hear how wet it is.

• 1:27:43Speaker 03

  What is it about a good...

• 1:27:47Travis Kelce?

  It's like foggy.

• 1:27:48Speaker 03

  I'm gonna ask you a question.

• 1:27:49Travis Kelce?

  Foggy.

• 1:27:50Speaker 03

  I'm gonna ask you a question, Matt. Have you ever Dutch outed it yourself?

• 1:27:57Speaker 03

  Is that?

• 1:27:58Travis Kelce?

  That's the thing for sure.

• 1:28:00Speaker 03

  Oh, I mean, I think I've done it multiple times just to see where I'm at.

• 1:28:04Travis Kelce?

  Hi, you do it as an experiment?

• 1:28:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:08Travis Kelce?

  You do just try here. Let me check.

• 1:28:10Speaker 03

  Wow, that's, I mean, it's my brand.

• 1:28:12Travis Kelce?

  Let me check the old exit. See, uh, see how we're doing here.

• 1:28:15Speaker 03

  I got no problem with my brand.

• 1:28:18Speaker 03

  Wow, that is pungent.

• 1:28:20Travis Kelce?

  So does it mean anything if it's like different?

• 1:28:24Speaker 03

  I feel like I can tell if my protein intake based on how my farts smell.

• 1:28:29Travis Kelce?

  Oh, does it get more sour the more protein?

• 1:28:31Speaker 03

  It gets more like dense, like if you're eating too much protein, like your body isn't properly like harnessing and utilizing to build muscle. If you start eating too much protein, then it almost feels like there's like a change in the atmospheric pressure with your fart. Like it's like, there's more molecules in the area. You said, you know what I'm saying? Like there's a pressure that is in there. Like you are like, wow, that is thick. That's when you know you're eating too much protein. All right. So I can sometimes gauge it if I'm trying to see like, oh, did I eat the right amount of protein? Then you fart and then you're like, oh yeah, I'm definitely in way too much protein.

• 1:29:13Speaker 03

  That's basically what that's steam. I got steam coming out my ass right now. Yeah.