Heights Hotline | Terrible Dating Advice For Kids, Modern Inconveniences, and Revoking Man Cards

92%ers, it's time for another edition of the Heights Hotline! On today’s episode, Jason and Travis reveal which modern convenience they could live without, we give a child some great, and then terrible, advice on how to talk to girls, and we answer the age-old question about the best way to go to the bathroom. Call us at 929-399-7260 to be featured in the next installment of the Heights Hotline. Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow You can also listen to new episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. . . . Download the full podcast here: Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMb Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Check out New Heights on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FR2MJWYS?ref=blog Send something to the New Heights Mailbox. Don’t be weird though. C/O New Heights Productions 135 E OLIVE AVE, BURBANK, CA 91502 Shop all the New Heights merch at https://kelceclubhouse.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The wrongs we must right, the fights we must win, the future we must secure together for our nation. This is what's in front of us. This determines what's next for all of us. We are Marines. We were made for this.

• 0:20Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our partner Royal Caribbean. Dude, have you seen this? Royal Caribbean just dropped The Legend of the Seas. It's the biggest cruise ship on the planet. Like, nothing's even close to being this big. And it's sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, starting this November.

• 0:38Speaker 02

  That's right. This thing is stacked. Seven pools, more places to eat than you can even count. I mean, they have something for everybody.

• 0:47Travis Kelce?

  Like, bring the kids, bring mom and dad, shoot, bring the whole crew. Everybody's got a spot. That's what makes it special.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  And the entertainment, Latin music, ice skating, full-on Broadway shows. It's pretty amazing. Pretty much everything you want in one place. Oh, and did I mention there's a water park?

• 1:04Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

• 1:06Speaker 02

  I love a water park.

• 1:07Travis Kelce?

  But the crazy one? Crown's Edge, a ropes course off the side of the ship, not for the faint of heart, brother.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  They've also got Playmaker Sports Bar and Arcade, so that means games on every screen. I love a good arcade sports place combination.

• 1:25Travis Kelce?

  All right, Captain, get the family on the new Legend of the Seas, sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 1:33Speaker 02

  Visit royalcaribbean.com to learn more.

• 1:37Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our sponsor, Colgate Total.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  On offense, it's important to prevent problems from the moment the ball is snapped.

• 1:44Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise, you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 1:55Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  My mouth specifically?

• 1:59Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Right. Yeah, all the nasty stuff. But the good news is you can prevent these problems before they start with Colgate Total Active Prevention. It's like having a good offensive line for your mouth.

• 2:21Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, exactly. With twice daily brushing, Colgate Total prevents oral health problems like cavities and gingivitis.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  And it's not just one contributing player either. It's a whole system. Toothpaste, mouthwash, and a special toothbrush.

• 2:36Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 2:39Speaker 02

  Colgate Total is like having a full playbook in your bathroom, working to help prevent oral health problems before they start.

• 2:47Travis Kelce?

  Get Colgate Total on Amazon today.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  Women can't refrain from

• 2:54Speaker 03

  Begging you.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  They can't help themselves. They have to eat the fruit.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  They see the apple.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  They have to eat the fruit. If they were allowed to eat the apple, they wouldn't eat the apple. So you gotta be the forbidden apple.

• 3:05Speaker 03

  No, I'm not really looking for anything right now. Do that drives them insane. I'm in fifth grade. I got a lot of stuff going on.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  It's a tale as old as time.

• 3:12Speaker 03

  You're 10 years old. It's called gaslighting. Now, what you want to do. All right, can you get your hands on cigarettes?

• 3:26Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to a bonus episode of your favorite show, your favorite podcast, your favorite brothers, New Heights, that is a wonder show. And we are your hosts. I am one brother. I'm Travis. This is my other brother, Jason, or I am the other brother to him because he's the first brother. Subscribe on YouTube, 100 Plus, or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the social media tag at New Heights Show with one S on all social media. Jason, should I do that again? Or should we get right into what we have coming up?

• 4:01Speaker 02

  I thought it sounded great, Trav. On today's bonus episode, we're going to be checking the Heights hotline, answer your off-season questions, off-offseason questions. Let's get into it. All right. What do we want to go to first? Delete one modern convenience? Sure, let's go with that one.

• 4:14Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that sounds fun.

• 4:15Speaker 04

  Okay, if you had to delete one modern convenience forever, GPS, streaming, or online ordering, what are you sacrificing?

• 4:24Speaker 02

  Oh, those three?

• 4:26Travis Kelce?

  GPS streaming or online ordering?

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:30Travis Kelce?

  What the?

• 4:31Speaker 02

  What are we constituting as streaming?

• 4:34Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  Is that anything on the internet that you're like, what like is YouTube streaming? Cause if we do cut that out, then I don't have a living. So

• 4:42Speaker 02

  streaming, online ordering, I don't want to cut that out. I mean, listen, I can do it. I could go back to calling in orders on the phone. I got no problem with that.

• 4:51Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  Actually, I want to cut out online ordering. I want to go back to calling phones and these places picking up the goddamn phone. Now you call a phone number and the places don't even pick up.

• 5:03Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, dude, that's so.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  I used to like calling and talking to the woman and be like, hey, how you doing? What's your favorite thing on the?

• 5:09Travis Kelce?

  How do you know it's a woman?

• 5:11Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 5:13Speaker 02

  I'm just.

• 5:15Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, this is hypothetical. Um, no, I'm with you, man. I'm with you. I think, I think there is a lost art in the food like world. And there's like a, it just doesn't feel like when you go places that there's, I don't know, as much hospitality, maybe? I don't know. I may just be a grown up and see things more clear now, but um, I'm with you. I'm with you. I, I fucking love calling in an order. I think, uh, doing the whole app thing, you know? If I don't want fucking onions in something, I don't, and it doesn't have it on the app. Now I gotta call in and I'm like, can I get no endings?

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Don't get me wrong. I use the apps, but I, I kinda like the, the concept of picking up the phone and calling the pizza joint and, you know, but.

• 5:57Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. See what kind of deals you got? I don't know. I don't want to read what kind of deals you got. I want to be surprised when you tell me and hear how you deliver the coupon, you know?

• 6:07Speaker 02

  Of those three, I think it's a no brainer. Online ordering.

• 6:09Travis Kelce?

  Online ordering.

• 6:10Speaker 02

  Definitely not giving up GPS.

• 6:11Travis Kelce?

  You wouldn't survive.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Would not go well for me.

• 6:14Travis Kelce?

  Follow the North Star, Jason.

• 6:17Speaker 02

  Just look up at the stars.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  Hey, so there's this girl I really like. Is that a child?

• 6:26Travis Kelce?

  It sounded like a kid.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  How should I ask her out? Well, yeah, um, how you like a girl and you wanna ask her out?

• 6:34Travis Kelce?

  I think first you gotta figure out what do you like about her?

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:37Travis Kelce?

  Like, what do you like about her? You like the way she looks? You like the way she dresses? You like how funny she is? You think like how kind she is? And then maybe compliment that. And that will get you in the door, or at least you gauge how she reacts to that. And then that gives you a better understanding of whether or not she would be willing to go out with you. But that's always a good conversation starter to let someone know that you like them.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  All right, I'm gonna give you the old Ed Kelsey tip. You find her unattractive friend and you befriend her. And you start making her feel like she's interested.

• 7:13Travis Kelce?

  It's so, it's so bogus, kid. Do not listen to that advice.

• 7:20Travis Kelce?

  That is the 1950s way of dating.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh. Well, here's, here's what you do. Uh, you ask her out.

• 7:28Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, there's no, there's no other way around it other than you just gotta, just gotta do it, man. You just gotta own it. You gotta.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  I would say like there you can do.

• 7:37Travis Kelce?

  Gotta have some corners.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, you can, you can do the whole like.

• 7:41Travis Kelce?

  What's the worst she's gonna say? No?

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Well, that's the thing.

• 7:45Travis Kelce?

  And then tell everyone that you, you asked her out and she said no.

• 7:50Speaker 02

  Laugh in your face that you're a locker.

• 7:53Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 7:57Travis Kelce?

  And then you're even, you're back even after that.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would, I would say just ask her out, man. Knowing what I know now, and listen, when I was younger, I didn't know how to talk to women. I didn't, I still don't really know how to talk to women. I'm fucking Neanderthal. My wife Kylie reminds me every single day, but I think you, you just ask her out. And then you go on a date and then you go from there. I wouldn't worry too much about it, bud.

• 8:20Travis Kelce?

  Just have something planned because you gotta have, you gotta have something in the back pocket. So like I said, maybe have a conversation starter and then have a, have a nice segue into maybe hanging out at the movies or at the mall, wherever your destination is. Gotta have a destination of where you wanna take her that's enticing. Um, and then, uh, yeah, go from there, bud.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  I wouldn't overthink it. I think you, you know, you start trying to force the conversation.

• 8:47Travis Kelce?

  Oh, no, no, yeah, don't do all that.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  They said to go here and say this and whatever. Just try and like talk to her like a normal person.

• 8:56Travis Kelce?

  Be authentic.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Take her on a date, be chivalrous, open the door, be courteous, make some jokes at other people's expenses where it's just between you two. Hey, look at this idiot over here. Not for both people to gather like that.

• 9:13Speaker 02

  No, seriously, think of something that you want to do, ask her out to see if she wants to go with you. And then just, you know, see what happens. I think that's the best advice I can give you. And then you just, you know, like Trav said, the worst that she can say is no, and then she says no, and then it's like, whatever. You move on to the next.

• 9:27Travis Kelce?

  You keep it moving. There's nothing to be embarrassed about.

• 9:30Speaker 02

  Tons of them. There are plenty of whales in the sea.

• 9:37Travis Kelce?

  It's fish.

• 9:38Speaker 02

  There's tons of plankton in the ocean. I don't know what the fuck.

• 9:44Travis Kelce?

  There's tons of whales?

• 9:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, whales probably wasn't the best one.

• 9:50Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, you, listen, you're, if you're asking advice from us, you better figure it out on your own.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  There's no trick. Let me put it this way. There's no trick.

• 9:58Travis Kelce?

  There is.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  Just go and, I mean, you can read the Cosmopolitan magazines and like all these things. And it's all a bunch of nonsense. Just fucking, if you like the girl, you say, hey, I was thinking about going seeing this movie. Would you like to go see it with me and then see what happens? She says, no, I want to go. Hey, I'm going to the mall. Do you want to, um, you want to go to the mall with me? Like it's, don't overthink it. No, you just go have fun. Just go be yourself.

• 10:21Travis Kelce?

  Here, kid, start a podcast with your brother. Go on the podcast.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  There you go. Don't try and make her like you because then she's going to hate you. This was my crucial flaw with talking to females. I was like, okay, how do I impress them? Or how would I, like, how do, like, I would think that I need to talk any differently. And then it's just like.

• 10:41Travis Kelce?

  Who you are is good enough, bud.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  You're going down a rabbit hole that is just unattainable.

• 10:46Travis Kelce?

  Now you're doing too much. That's what Jason is. Don't overthink it. Don't do too much. Just be you, man.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:50Travis Kelce?

  Just be you. Who you are is good enough for the right person. All right, man.

• 10:54Speaker 03

  For the child who called in, please take that advice and call us back. I want to know how this goes. We're on the journey with you now.

• 11:01Travis Kelce?

  So is this Joe Dirt?

• 11:02Speaker 03

  Call us back. Call us back. I want to know how it goes for you, young man.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  Do you know how many times I was told no? So it's gonna be fine. Not that she's gonna say no. Not that she's gonna say no.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Then you go right to her friend and you make her jealous.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  Now you have the upper hands. Don't listen to any of this shit. I don't, please don't listen to anything I'm saying.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Talking to her friend. Make it seem like you're interested. Laughing jokes.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  Like, your friend's pretty cute. She's way cuter than you.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  Make sure she sees you.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  You pit two women against each other.

• 11:30Speaker 02

  Then you're the hot commodity.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Then you're the hot commodity.

• 11:33Travis Kelce?

  You have to be.

• 11:34Speaker 03

  Supply and demand, my friend.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  Economics. Please ignore all of this.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  You're the forbidden fruit.

• 11:39Travis Kelce?

  The tipping point is what Malcolm Gladwell calls this.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Listen, have you ever, have you ever seen the Garden of Eden? Women can't

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Don't do this.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  refrain from

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Begging you.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  They can't help themselves. They have to eat the fruit.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  They see the apple. They need to eat the apple.

• 11:57Speaker 02

  But if they were allowed to eat the apple, they wouldn't eat the apple. So you gotta be the forbidden apple. You gotta go get that friend.

• 12:02Speaker 03

  No, I'm not really looking for anything right now. Do that drives him insane. Not looking to settle down. I'm in fifth grade. I got a lot of stuff going on.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  It's a tale as old as time, literally.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  Hmm. Sorry. Me and my friends are gonna hang out over here. You're not invited. Boom. You're in.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Boom.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  Trick them. You're 10 years old. It's called gaslighting. Now, what you wanted to

• 12:20Speaker 02

  Well, what are your strengths? We need to know more about you.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, we don't know. We don't actually, we might be on her side. Maybe she shouldn't date you.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:27Speaker 03

  You're calling into a fucking podcast for advice. I don't know if I like the sound of this.

• 12:30Travis Kelce?

  No, we don't want to shame anyone calling into this podcast.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  No, no, no. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  You gotta have something that she desires and a man. What are you good at? If you're not good at anything, you gotta get good at something first.

• 12:41Travis Kelce?

  You gotta get good at something, dude.

• 12:42Speaker 02

  With nothing, you're gonna get

• 12:43Travis Kelce?

  Nothing. You're not forbidden. You're not forbidden fruit anymore.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Are you a class clown? Are you an athlete? What are we doing?

• 12:49Speaker 02

  If you're athletic, show it off. If you're not athletic, be the smartest person in the class. If you're not smart, be a class clown.

• 12:55Speaker 03

  Smart doesn't play.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Smart plays.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  Nah.

• 12:58Travis Kelce?

  You're crazy. Smart definitely plays.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  Smart doesn't.

• 13:01Travis Kelce?

  Smart plays. I've seen the smart guy. I've seen the smart guy get the girl before. I've never been able to play that.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was gonna say, it never really worked out for me.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Never been one of my cards.

• 13:09Travis Kelce?

  No, I've seen it work, though. I've seen it work.

• 13:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, pretty good score on this algebra test. There's a fucking D on it. Yeah.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Women like men that are unpredictable. Okay, you

• 13:21Travis Kelce?

  Try jumping into a trash can with scuba gear.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  Pull a fire alarm.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Go up to Mr. Johnson and kick him square in the hole.

• 13:30Travis Kelce?

  Tell him to fuck off. Women love a badass.

• 13:33Speaker 03

  We need you to be a bad boy. Can you be the bad boy of the class?

• 13:36Travis Kelce?

  You want to go up to the front of the class and say, I'm fucking teaching this class this, I'm teaching a class today.

• 13:42Speaker 03

  Show up with a leather jacket, turn that chair around and sit down and be like, no, this is my algebra class now.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna turn on Nickelodeon around 11 o'clock. You're gonna see a show called Happy Days and you see this guy called Fonzarelli. Just do everything to be there.

• 13:57Travis Kelce?

  I'm the wakler. The wakler, dude.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  Just do everything he does.

• 14:02Speaker 03

  Just do everything the Fonz does. It works out great. Does your school have a jukebox you can hit?

• 14:08Speaker 03

  If you haven't caught on by now, all of us are old. Does your dad have a leather jacket you can borrow? All right, can you get your hands on cigarettes?

• 14:17Speaker 03

  Okay, it's called, it's called Chris Stapleton's Traveler Whiskey. You're gonna get yourself a bottle.

• 14:22Travis Kelce?

  Listen, just come in with a fucking ounce of weed. If you come in with an ounce of weed to school.

• 14:31Travis Kelce?

  You're getting expelled. You'll be the coolest kid in school.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Coolest kid out of school.

• 14:36Travis Kelce?

  Coolest kid out of school.

• 14:38Speaker 03

  Somebody's gonna yell at me how much less we have to cut out, but that's fine. These are always the best ones.

• 14:42Travis Kelce?

  I'm not gonna lie, it started off kind of whack and this shit got so funny.

• 14:47Speaker 03

  Oh, we're good now. Okay, Travis is fine with this one now. All right, we're good. We can do one more.

• 14:50Speaker 04

  Hi Jason, hi Travis. I was just wondering, do you think it's acceptable for men to sit down and pee? Or does that automatically revoke their man card? I'm just asking for a friend. Thanks, bye.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Well, as long as they still have some balls, I think they still get the man card. I don't know if there's a disqualification for anything out there. Unless they want to be. I don't really know how that works, but either way.

• 15:14Travis Kelce?

  Whatever their preferences, yeah.

• 15:16Speaker 02

  Absolutely not. I would have, I would have removed their man card.

• 15:19Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  What, men can't sit down and pee? Sometimes you're tired. Sometimes you just want to sit on the toilet.

• 15:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  You got a phone in your hand.

• 15:24Travis Kelce?

  Sometimes it's a false alarm. You don't have to take a shit. Now you're just pissing.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  There you go. Sometimes in the middle of the night, I don't want to have to turn on the lights.

• 15:30Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  In other words, when you get up in the middle of the night, you don't want to turn the lights on because you don't want to fully wake up? And you just hear piss hitting the floor and you're like, god damn it.

• 15:39Travis Kelce?

  I've never experienced that.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  You've never experienced that?

• 15:44Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  Man, I'm definitely.

• 15:50Travis Kelce?

  You missed the seat, the whole and everything?

• 15:53Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm saying it's not saying it's frequent, but it's happened.

• 15:59Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. Ain't nothing wrong with it. It's toilet. Has a seat on it. There's nothing unmanly about taking a, taking a old sit.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  I think I got a bad back. Yeah, I don't know.

• 16:09Travis Kelce?

  Maybe I want to keep fucking, I want to scroll and see if something hits. So something hits me while I'm scrolling.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Listen, I got four kids. You know how many sit down peas I take?

• 16:21Speaker 02

  I'm enjoying this pee.

• 16:27Travis Kelce?

  No, no wonder Dad took so many shits when we were kids, man. Dad would read the entire. Town Clancy.

• 16:36Speaker 02

  Magazine. I don't withhold from man cards from people that sit down.

• 16:40Travis Kelce?

  Not, I'm not big on revoking man cards, period. But yeah.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  Same, especially if you're a man. All right, that wraps up another edition of Heights Hotline. We'll have some more bonus content for you all in March. So stay tuned.

• 16:55Travis Kelce?

  That's right. Once again, New Heights, a wondery show. Follow it on all social media. Um, follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. And thank you to our production and crew again for getting us some much needed bonus content and the very fun bonus episode. This was hilarious. Um, to the young gentleman, uh, seeking advice to dating a woman, please call back it. We, we want to know how this goes.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Make sure you put tons of Axe Body Spray on.

• 17:22Travis Kelce?

  Tons. Always works.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  Loaded up.

• 17:25Travis Kelce?

  Every time. Loaded up. Go under the shirt too. Go under the shirt too.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Fresh maker.

• 17:30Travis Kelce?

  Just in case. To the 92%ers, thanks for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time.