MTGM EXTRA! “It’s not ALL men… HOWEVER…”

To the couple of straight, male listeners… we get it. It’s not ALL men. Age gap relationships are a touchy topic and you might feel differently depending on the circumstances… a 50 year old fella and his 19 year old girlfriend? Hmmm… What about a 30+ year gap in a lesbian relationship… All viewpoints valid… My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a global production.

• 0:04Speaker 01

  It's not, it's not all men. You're, you're right. It's not all men. However,

• 0:10Speaker 01

  it seems to be a lot of them.

• 0:14Speaker 02

  I wouldn't ride him anymore because I think that he is now. I, I do think people look at it and they're like, ugh.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  I'd like a perineal massage, please. He's like, but you're not pregnant. That's none of your business. How dare you?

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Joe's back.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  He's, I can tell you now, I've been dealing with him for the last 10 minutes before you were logging in and he is not in good form.

• 0:40Speaker 03

  I've only been at work for 90 minutes.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  He's got, he's got the palace holiday, please.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  Did you go on your holidays, holidays?

• 0:46Speaker 03

  No, I didn't go on my holidays, holidays. I went on my staying at home holidays. Just, you know, a holiday from the grind.

• 0:53Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, a home holidays feel like holidays sometimes. I don't want to be, I don't want to sound ungrateful, but I, because I'm in London now for the month of August. I was like desperately during the heat wave. I was like, I'm going to book a hotel like for the weekend and me and the kids will go and we'll have a lovely time. They've got a kids club. They've got a swimming pool. It's just like dragging your problems to another part of the country, really, isn't it? The moaning, the moaning is just, and also, do you remember, do you remember hiding on your parents and not knowing why they got so annoyed? Also ran out of the changing rooms naked and I was like, he's only just gone to the shower.

• 1:33Speaker 02

  Hide. We couldn't find him for 15 minutes. I was having a breakdown and my na, and having to go around people, have you seen a naked child?

• 1:46Speaker 02

  I'm a bad parent.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  I feel like we should have started this podcast, good morning.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Good morning, everybody. Do you want anything to add to the list?

• 1:57Speaker 01

  I feel like this is a moan, a moaning episode.

• 2:02Speaker 01

  I had a family barbecue yesterday. So I am quite.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  Hungover.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  I was gonna say sensitive. But yeah.

• 2:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, we know you, don't we?

• 2:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a mix of.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  It'll get her the odd time. She doesn't get hangovers, but it does get her the odd time. I'm surprised it was a family barbecue that managed to tip her off.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  It was my, it was a shared event between my nephew's 16th birthday, 15th birthday and my, I say 16 because my, my mum put 16 on the cake by accident. 15th birthday and my, and my Netflix event. So she had happy birthday to my nephew. And then, and happy Netflix to Joanne. And then there was a big photo of me on it and my nephew didn't get a look in. It was fantastic.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  If that was me when I was younger, I would throw in an absolute stinker.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  My poor nephew.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  Who is she?

• 3:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was actually, and I'm like the grown adult, you know what I mean? And I'm the one, yay, my face is on the cake. He didn't get a look in. Anyway, there was a drink.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  If I was 15 and my auntie had a Netflix special, I'd be thinking, cha-ching. And I know that she gave Vogue's four-year-old child a load of fibers. I'm getting a load of 50, surely.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Well, as, well, as we know, kids these days, and I'm not singling out anyone in particular, but you could wrap them a grand and they'd be like, thanks, full stop.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  The level of like appreciation. I mean, it's not off the charts now, I will say.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  I actually asked, I asked somebody this morning if like, when do kids start appreciating you? And he was like, well, mine are 16 and 17, so I'll let you know when it happens.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. I actually said, I said to one of the, one of the children in my life, who's in, again, I'm keeping this very broad and do bear in mind, I have a lot of children in my life. I said, when are you going to throw in an exclamation point?

• 4:06Speaker 01

  I would like an exclamation point after the thanks. So it feels like so you didn't have to send it with your parents go, a gun with your mother holding a gun to your head. Thanks. Science lighter than thanks. Full stop. Okay.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, the, the full stop is a bit aggressive.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Isn't it?

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Well, it depends how much, it depends how much you sent.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  This is what I mean. It wouldn't make any difference.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  How much did you send?

• 4:28Speaker 01

  I could send, I could send a Lamborghini to any of these children. Thanks. Full stop.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Did you see your one driving, did you see your one driving to college in America in the Barbie car? Cause she got her licence taken over for a DUI. It's very funny. It's just a very visually funny thing. She's, her legs don't fit and so they're up out in the bonnet and she's driving. She can drive. She can like, she can hit the main roads.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  In the Barbie car?

• 4:56Speaker 01

  A Barbie car. Like, do you know the way kids have these, it's not like a car for a Barbie. Yeah. I mean, that would be ridiculous.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  No, I know what you mean. They don't go that fast.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  You can fit an adult ass in the seat and then she's her legs out on either side. And then she just buzzes along into college and people are now stopping her for photos and all. And this is not to lessen the crime of drunk driving, but it looks really, really funny and it really made me laugh. And I thought I'd share it with you two moan bags.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  Tickled you.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  It tickled me.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  A quick Google suggests that it's, uh, it's not a way around it because in September 2025, a man was arrested in America for driving a similar Barbie Jeep whilst he was under the influence of alcohol and he was arrested.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Well, I suppose, I remember him and he was driving that car because he had a DUI and they arrested him for drunk, for drunk driving a, a Barbie car. Can you just?

• 5:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. The police said that it was a clear violation of the law. I don't know which.

• 5:58Speaker 02

  Well, are you allowed to, are you allowed to drink, drive and cycle or no?

• 6:02Speaker 03

  I think you can't do that either. Definitely don't do that.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  You can't drink and cycle.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Well, do you remember there was someone killed?

• 6:08Speaker 02

  Remember back in the day, that's all the people used to do.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Uh, all those Lime bikes in London, Joe, they're all half cut. Remember they call it lime leg, the doctors in the AE because they keep driving into, they keep cycling into buses and breaking their legs open. But there was someone killed by two girls on an e-scooter. Do you remember this? And they, and they had been drinking. Now, I don't know if the drinking thing had anything to do with it, but they were arrested and all because it was dangerous driving. They were up on the path and they, I think, they absolutely annihilated this person and they died. So, yeah.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  I have to say, I cannot stand those e-scooters. I know, I, I think this shows my age, but like, I, I do, I think that they're so dangerous and like, I just can't understand how people are just whizzing around in them. I saw, I saw a man with a, with a baby in a papoose. Is that what it's called? The thing that you attach the baby to your body?

• 7:00Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  And the baby is just in it and he's flying along in this e-scooter. I'm like, oh, I just don't know.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  We've all seen those videos with like 20 kids in the back of a motorbike with no helmet and all. Listen, I don't get involved. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

• 7:13Speaker 03

  It's illegal under the road traffic act to be drunk in charge of a bicycle. You are also not allowed to be drunk in charge of a horse.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  Drunk in charge of a horse? Never heard of that before in my life.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 7:28Speaker 02

  What about roller blades? Roller blades? Is it anything that gets you around or just?

• 7:34Speaker 01

  What about a mule?

• 7:34Speaker 02

  I'm just wondering how I'm going to get home from the hospital after I have the baby because I'm definitely getting drunk immediately.

• 7:42Speaker 03

  Uh, generally not illegal by specific law.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  So just a horse?

• 7:46Speaker 03

  Not advisable though. Uh, you definitely can't ride a horse. I think you might be able to drive a boat, but don't do that.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  No, there's no, sorry, there's no way you can drive a boat.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  It's illegal to be caught dead in roller blades anyway.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  There's no way you can drive a boat drunk, Joe. You should look at the Murdochs.

• 8:02Speaker 03

  Uh, no, what I just said is, uh, is not true. You can't.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  We had to factor, well, did you, uh, do you know what I've started watching?

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Just don't drink and leave the house.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  I watched the, and I text you to try and get you to watch it as well. There's a BBC kind of thing on Jared Leto, which I would like to talk about more in the main. But oh, not like, but do you know, we'll, we'll get more into it in the main, but it's basically about Jared Leto and he, like him going for teenage girls. And it's this big, like they uncover all this stuff about him and he's just creepy. He's not allowed to be creepy. He's creepy.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, at this stage, I mean, I don't even like nothing, like honestly, Joe, if there was an expose on you next week, I'd be like, yeah. Grant, I mean, I just don't trust anyone anymore.

• 8:58Speaker 03

  I'd be quite surprised if there was, to be honest with you.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  I wouldn't, Joe. I wouldn't. I'd be like, yeah, I'd sell a story.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  But Jared Leto, if you watch it, you have to watch it.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  I will. I will. I'm just saying, Joe, don't expect any loyalty from us. Okay? If you're a weird, if you're a secret perv, yeah.

• 9:19Speaker 03

  Drop like a hot potato, mate.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  A hot potato.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  We'll let you away with most things, but pervs are not allowed. We don't, we just don't accept pervs. Do you know who else I find really disappointing? Hasn't broken the law, but really disappointing. Cause I really like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Anthony Kiedis, and he's like 54 or something and he's going out with a 19-year-old and it's like, dude, like, what are you, what are you talking about?

• 9:43Speaker 01

  I've seen this. I, I just accept now that most men, most all men

• 9:53Speaker 01

  are drawn to, I'm going to be very careful how I say, how I say this, significantly younger women. That's all. That's all I'm going to say. It is what it is. I don't think there's any getting away from it. We judge it, but it's not going away. It's not gonna, it's not gonna change.

• 10:11Speaker 02

  I would say, I, I would have to say it's not all men because I do think that for that, it's a very specific thing. Especially like, I mean, I just, like with things like that, I just, I don't understand. Like what am I going to talk to, let's say a 16-year-old about? How was school? Like, did you have fun in school with your friends?

• 10:33Speaker 01

  I know.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  And like, what's, did you get your new pencil case? September's coming up. Like who's covering your books for you? There's nothing, what are you talking about?

• 10:41Speaker 01

  It's not, it's not all men. You're, you're right. It's not all men. However,

• 10:47Speaker 01

  it seems to be a lot of them.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  It's quite, it's quite, it's quite the number out there. And of course, people like him, like rock stars like him can get away with it because no nineteen year old girl wants to be going out with some L lad who's like driving a Toyota Corolla around town, do you know what I mean? They want to be going out with a millionaire rock star who's going to treat them like a princess and they're going to have a gorgeous life and he's cool. He's in the Red Hot Chili Peppers, do you know what I mean? I'd ride him. I'm too old.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  I actually think that I, I wouldn't ride him anymore because I think that he is now. I, I do think people look at it and they're like, ugh. Like it's just like even Svenny loves the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And I told him and he was like, ugh. It is just like, just because you, you can doesn't mean you should. Well, I feel like we, we talk about this, like it's just, it's the same with Tobey Maguire. Fucking hell. Like, it's just, I just find it so grim. Spiderman. Spidey.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Oh, what's he, oh god, what's he done?

• 11:48Speaker 03

  He's not the current Spiderman. That's, that's very much.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  He's gone, yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Tim McShalhoub.

• 11:52Speaker 03

  He's been a few years now because there's been a few Spidermans since then.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Spider people, Jo.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  You're just saying.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Spider people.

• 12:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, beg your pardon. Yeah, yeah. Got cancelled, done.

• 12:05Speaker 01

  What did Tobey Maguire do?

• 12:07Speaker 02

  Oh, Tobey Maguire's going out with somebody who is extremely young and he's in his fifties as well. And it's just like, I don't know, there's just, but even like your mates, right? You're taking your, you're taking your significant other out to hang out with your mates and they're like, oh great, he's bringing this nineteen year old bird. Like what the fuck are we going to talk about?

• 12:26Speaker 01

  I know.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  I'd literally be like a bag of them sitting beside her.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  I know.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  I do that. I have a friend that brings people out and I'm like, you know, and you know, it's a very fleeting romance. And it's happened so many times that I'm like, I don't, I don't want to invest my time in this. I know it's going nowhere. I don't invest my time.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  I know. I was, I was out at the weekend and one of my friends is seeing somebody and I liked that. I invested a lot of time with that person on the night. And when I was leaving, I said to my friend, if you fucking fuck this up, I said, I've put in four hours here. Do not make this a waste of my time. Do you know what I mean? She said, bring her back. If she's, if she's, if you're bringing her out and we're putting in the hours, you put in the work. If we're putting in the work as well. I want to see her again.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  I had a really embarrassing moment this week. Um, so we have a lovely lady who helps us with the kids. Um, and I, a lovely.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  Amber.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. So anyway, so Amber has jacked out. She's just been on holidays with them. I haven't really heard much from Amber since we got back.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  She's healing somewhere.

• 13:51Speaker 02

  She's cancelling next year's blights is what she's doing.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  It's full on.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  It is so full on. But I ordered this thing. I don't remember if I told you last time, right? When you're having a baby, my doctor told me to get this thing. It's called the EpiNo. So I bought a new EpiNo because I've lost the old EpiNo. And it's this like thing that you put up. You're meant to do a perineal massage. Have you heard of that, Jo?

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:14Speaker 02

  He knows. He remembers, right? So a perineal massage is like to prepare you for childbirth. And it's a bit between your bum and your vagina. You know that bit?

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Yes. Uh, your, your varus is the technical term. Between your vagina and your arse.

• 14:33Speaker 03

  It's like a little patio area.

• 14:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  Jo, Jo, are you, are you telling me about a woman's perineum?

• 14:46Speaker 01

  I, I, you're doing a holiday, Jo. I think you might have forgotten yourself. Okay? You can't mansplain a varus to me.

• 14:55Speaker 03

  It wasn't an explanation for you. It was just, it was by way of imagery for, um, someone who's listening who might not have experienced that.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Well, men have it, but they call it the gooch. It's called the gooch for a man, isn't it?

• 15:10Speaker 01

  It's called the bars, Vogue. It's called the bars.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  It's a, it's a, the bar.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Between the balls and the arse. Hello?

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Is that between the balls and the arse?

• 15:21Speaker 01

  These are, these are medical terms, guys.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  It's the gooch.

• 15:29Speaker 01

  It is absolutely not the gooch. Okay, hold on. I'm going to ask Claude.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  It's, it is the, I've, did you make up bars or is that real?

• 15:40Speaker 01

  That's a medical term.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  No, it's fucking not.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Well, it's, okay, fine. It's not like in the, in the books, but I'm pretty sure it's used in the whole way to hospitals. Hold on. What is the gooch?

• 15:56Speaker 01

  On a man.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  I hate the bars.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  I know, it's gross. Listen, you brought it up with your perineal massages. Uh, now that I know the name of it, I'm going to ask my masseuse to give me, I didn't, I never wanted to ask him to do the varus because I felt it was.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  I'm in for a varus massage.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  I can give it a medical term. A proper term like, I mean, I'd like a perineal massage, please? He's like, but you're not pregnant. That's none of your business. Dare you?

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Did you look it up? Did you have the gooch there?

• 16:29Speaker 01

  What is gooch on a man?

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Oh my God. Here we go. Gooch is a slang, my, my chachi beauty doesn't even say, ooh, that's an interesting question anymore because it just wants nothing to do with me. So they usually, it's really nice at the start. Mine just.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  This scumbag is back.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  I wouldn't say a sad thing I've heard because it's very rude to me now. Anyway. Gooch is a slang term for the perineum. The area of skin and tissue between the genitals and the anus. For a man, the gooch is the area between the scrotums and the anus. It's a normal part of the anatomy and contains muscles.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  So I bought this thing and you basically, it's like a balloon and you put it into your vagina and you do your kegels on it and it gets you ready for childbirth in the hope that you won't then tear your perineum. But before I got that, it was, it was suggested that you get, got your partner to help you with a perineal massage. And I couldn't think of anything I would like fucking less than Svenny going there and massaging my perineum. I just would rather, I'd rather just deal with the consequences. Then I came across the EpiNo. Anyway, I bought the EpiNo and you have to buy lube to go with it, which is separate. So I bought the lube and I just, I had said to this girl, I was like, don't open the Amazon packages because obviously I knew the lube was in there. And I was like, I can't then explain to her what the lube is for.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  And it wasn't just a small thing of lube because obviously I'm trying to get the best money for what I'm buying. And the one that I bought was like, five, five and a half liters. Now I don't need it.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  You are a working woman. You do not need to bulk buy lube.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  But I don't want to run out and it was iconic, it was on offer. The large one was on offer.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Beep, beep. Truck backing up to the, to the house. Beep, beep, beep.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  Anyway, I got home. I got home after my weekend away and there is the huge, enormous, and it actually has a little like squeezy thing because it's got so much, it's so big that you just like do it like a shower gel. Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze. Uh, the big thing of lube just sitting on the table. And like, what could I do? I just had to take it and just walk away and say nothing other than.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Your head held high.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Things that I have.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  With your head held high.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  With my gooch intact and happy.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  But also, you know that I was recommended to use lube to take out my hair extensions? So if, if push comes to shove, you can always, if you were in, if you were in a, in an eye to eye situation, you did feel you needed to explain yourself and you were a bit embarrassed about having that dry vagina, you could say you were using it for your hair extensions. Life hack. By the way, can I just say on the gooch thing? In medical settings, healthcare providers usually call it the perineum rather than the gooch. Not always, you'll notice they said usually.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  Usually, but no one's saying the bars. That's literally a Joanne Mcnally phrase.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Sorry, listeners. Please get in touch if you're familiar with the term, the medical terms, bars and bars. Because I'm telling you now, they will be. They will be.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Okay. I've got emails for you.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  Oh, do you? Okay, fine.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  Hey girls and Joe, I'm a huge fan. Was listening to the pod about, and the story about the guy being good looking and a shit ride and it reminded me about someone I hooked up with. To give you some context, I'm a twenty-two year old lesbian from Dublin and I was going through a bad breakup last year when I met the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. A few drinks later, we're flirting and touching like we're the only people in the world. I thought she was thirty-ish, but as I said before, the most beautiful woman ever. And I'm known to date older people, so I didn't care. After having the best sex and the best night and sex of my life, there was one fault, which was our age. She was fifty-two and I was twenty-one. We both decided because it was amazing that we couldn't give a shit.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  But with the age difference, it didn't last long. I think about her every day. She was amazing and funny. Honestly, she was everything I was looking for, but that one fault ruined it. So I hope that girl who's seen that guy worked it out with him. Thanks to all the laughs for the last few years. You guys are amazing.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  I will acknowledge my hypocrisy in this situation. And that is, your man from, um, Chili, Red Hot Chili Peppers and his nine-year-old girlfriend, I'm like disgusting, hideous, inappropriate.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  When it's two women, I'm like adorable, we support. I pray it works because it just feels different.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  I still feel the same. I still feel like the reason that this didn't happen is because she was fifty-two and she kind of knew that it's just twenty-two is, it's a bit young. It's.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  It is.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  It's a bit full on. And I think that, um, yeah, I would feel the same.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  It's more just, ah, here, this isn't going to work. It's less about what people would think, I think with two women. And also, obviously if they didn't cop, there was such a big an age difference. That physically obviously doesn't look like there's such a big age difference. But it does come down to lifestyle and where you are in your life. And like twenty-two, I mean, my God. I, I think I was still living at home at twenty-two. No, I think I was in Australia. Anyway, my point is, I, I was no way in a position to, to build a life with a woman in her fifties. Or a, well, a man I couldn't really because they're easier.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  I just feel like, just, there's just such a, it's just too, I was saying this to Span yesterday, because I was again talking about Anthony Kiedis to Span, but I was like, it's just, if it's like a 35 year old going out with like a 75 year old, it's just different, because at least when you're 35, like, you've kind of got to a point in your life where you've, like, you've been through so much, but when you're 22, you're just, you're just starting out, like, you're just getting going.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  Like, I couldn't now, in all good faith, as a 43 year old woman, even go out with a guy in his twenties, like, imagine going to meet his friends and all, like, you'd just look like a creep, you'd look, you would look weird, like, you would look odd, and even though, I don't think it's the same for women and men, and I do think women are allowed to whatever they want, and I've said that repeatedly, and I have no shame in it, but I wouldn't be getting involved with a lad as young as that now, I just wouldn't, I'd be embarrassed, like, I would be, I'd be embarrassed. If it was a woman, I think it might be a little bit different, but probably not great, not a great look either, yeah. And also, can I just say, you're thinking about her every day, because nothing happened,

• 23:24Speaker 01

  it never had a chance to go tits up, but trust me, it will have, it would have, it run its course anyway, everything does.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  And that's all from our positive fam, Joanne.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  Good morning.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Good morning to you.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  And good bitch, good bitching. And do let us know about the arson, do let us know about, if there's any doctors out there, do drop us a line regarding the Varsbar situation. Also, I'm on, I'm on tour in America, I'm going everywhere, check the website, and I have a second New York on sale on November 7th, if anyone's still listening to this.