MTGM EXTRA! "He's married... I slept with him and now a colleague has too..."

What's with cheating men and giving away hoodies? Just stop. Besides this textbook MTGM email, Vogue has found a marriage opportunity in Saudi Arabia and Joanne is off to the US... Has she packed? Have a guess... My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  That woman knows he's married. She knows she's playing with fire. She's old enough and bold enough to be at that, so I would leave her to it. And if she gets her heartbroken, it's just what's gonna happen.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  In this situation, I think I would say it to her.

• 0:17Speaker 00

  I'm not judging you for what has happened, because these things happen.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  He's just a horny, pathetic child.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  Can you hear that noise? Will I turn them off?

• 0:31Speaker 01

  We can hear it, but it's not offensive. I'm not going to tell you not to pump. That would be wrong.

• 0:38Speaker 00

  This is the noise of my life now.

• 0:41Speaker 02

  Are we on, Jo? Are we recording?

• 0:43Speaker 01

  We are on. This is all being recorded.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  Jo, why didn't you tell me? My sunglasses are on. I can't let people see my raw eyes.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  I beg your pardon.

• 0:52Speaker 00

  You looked like you'd pink eyed yesterday.

• 0:55Speaker 02

  I know, yeah. I was wearing pink eyeliner for the... We're in the middle of filming Series Two for Unacceptable. And I had pink eyeliner on, which I found hard to cut off. So yes, I looked like I had pink eye the next day. Vogue, you're pumping, obviously, breast milk because you've had a child.

• 1:14Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:15Speaker 02

  When I say that noise reminds me so much of our last tour, because on our last tour Vogue was pumping breast milk for our friends, our gay friends who had a child together, men, who couldn't... Well, obviously, they're titless and... Yeah, they struggle to lactate because they're lazy, frankly.

• 1:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, they are lazy.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  Every time, it's a brrr, brrr, brrr, the whole tour.

• 1:46Speaker 00

  You know, when you're like, "I'll do that for you", I think I said it when I was pissed, I was like, "I'll pump and give you breast milk", and then I was like, "Oh, God", because I was still feeding Otto at the same time. So I was like, constantly had something in my breath.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  It was nuts. Yeah, I'm triggered.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  I have just Googled, very quickly, just out of interest, can men lactate? And in unusual or extreme circumstances, it's very rare, but they can. We, men, we have all of the bits that mean that we can. We just don't have the hormones. What about that?

• 2:17Speaker 00

  It is. It's true. Men can have breasts and men can get breast cancer. I know a man who, very sadly, passed away of breast cancer.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  Are we talking about, like, cis men?

• 2:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  I was biologically born male and I have all of the hardware to lactate.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  I find that offensive, Jo.

• 2:40Speaker 01

  Well, look, don't hate the play, I hate the game, mate.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Well, then, I hate the game. Stop trying to take lactation off us, Jo. You are...

• 2:49Speaker 01

  I'm not.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  Sorry, read that out to me. Explain.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  It's not to take. I already have it.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  Explain to me how you can lactate.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Men, this is from Forbes, men have rudimentary mammary glands, ducts and nipples because these structures form in the womb before sex differentiation occurs. Milk production requires the hormone prolactin, and men possess the hardware, but they don't have that hormone.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, of course, because you know that you all start as women. That's why you have nipples. And then the chromosomes kick in and then you get your tiny penises. But you start...

• 3:26Speaker 00

  But we are the greater gender.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  We are the main event and then there's a... It kind of veers off and mutates into men, yeah?

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  That's the crack.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Would you get your nipple pierced, Jo? How do you feel about it?

• 3:42Speaker 01

  I think I'd find it a bit irritating on the clothing.

• 3:45Speaker 00

  I don't think that looks... Now, no offence to any nipple piercers, but I just wouldn't... I don't think I'd like Spenny toys with the idea of getting... I don't know if he's joking or not, but getting his ear re-pierced, like, he has it pierced. He used to wear a little feather in his ear. And I'm like, I don't know if... I just don't know if this is serious or... Because I can't... We'll have to get divorced. And like, I can't write on the divorce paper, "He wanted to wear a feather earring". I can't.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Sorry, Vogue, did you say that Spencer had a feather earring?

• 4:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Have you seen old pictures of Spencer? Have you seen even... I saved that man. Like, how do you not know that? Have you not seen the clothes he used to wear when we met? First of all, when we met, he had like 14 Geelys. Honestly, he had 14 Geelys, 12 of which were tweed. And remember those hats he used to wear? Remember? And now he's waltzing around in... Well, he's walking around in legging shorts today. And I just... That, for me, is a lot, but...

• 4:44Speaker 02

  You can bring the horse to water, but you can't make a drink. I would say this across the board, and I'm sorry to our three straight male listeners. I have dressed and saved every single man I've ever gone out with or even had a situationship with. I've helped them with their fashion and then sent them off back into the scene, well dressed with style.

• 5:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, but Joanne, some of them fell back off the wagon.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Listen, there's only so much you can do. Do you know what I mean? There's only so much you can do. If you're a grown man who wants to wear Crocs on the weekend, there's nothing I can do if I'm not across it anymore.

• 5:28Speaker 00

  My cousin's husband, hi Barbara, wears Crocs and shorts every single day of the year, rain, hail or shine. That man has a Croc wardrobe like you've never seen.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  But you know what the gas thing is? It's about the attitude. I am a proud owner of a pair of Pringle Crocs, as you know, Vogue, you've seen them. They have little beards on them and the Pringle man is on them and they've like little charms of tiny Pringles and stuff hanging off them. It shouldn't work, but it does.

• 6:04Speaker 00

  Does it, Joanne?

• 6:07Speaker 00

  I have seen... I don't know if we can go that far now. Come on, we've all seen the Pringles Crocs.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  Vogue, sorry, I've shown you those Crocs and said, "It works, doesn't it", and you've said, "Yeah".

• 6:19Speaker 00

  No, that is... You've made that up. You've totally made that up in your head to suit yourself.

• 6:25Speaker 02

  You said, "Yeah, it really works. The Pringles bring out your ankles", you said that to me.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, but did she say, "Yeah", or did she sort of go?

• 6:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  She was pregnant at the time. I mean, no one took her seriously. She was saying all sorts of mad shit, but I... I took that. You seemed to really like them when I wore them, no?

• 6:50Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, like the summer sandals. Yeah. At that time, I liked them the same level as the summer sandals, which I actually miss.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  You know how much we love a bargain?

• 7:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Because we're on YouTube now, so like, I'm trying to add in visuals, but also I really want to show this jacket.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  For the audio listener, what are you wearing?

• 7:08Speaker 02

  I'm wearing a banging leather jacket. Guess how much?

• 7:12Speaker 00

  20, 30 quid.

• 7:15Speaker 00

  Okay, realistically, 80. Is it real leather?

• 7:19Speaker 02

  I've remembered why I can't play this game because...

• 7:24Speaker 01

  Oh, she's annoyed.

• 7:25Speaker 00

  I have to win.

• 7:26Speaker 02

  No, you go annoyingly low.

• 7:27Speaker 00

  I want to win.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  Sorry, Danny Zuko, what was it, £150?

• 7:32Speaker 02

  It was £60 in the local charity shop, Jo.

• 7:37Speaker 00

  What's the brand?

• 7:38Speaker 02

  There is no brand.

• 7:40Speaker 00

  Is it leather or pleather? Pleather's not a bargain for £60.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  Sorry, I ran in there and I was like, "This looks like Balenciaga", and you're one in the... I tried it on and the one in the shop was like, "Oh, my God", and we were like screaming about it. And she was like, "It's only gone on the shelf", and I was like, "I can't believe I've been so lucky", and now you've come back with £30. Is it real leather? It's... Yeah, yeah. It actually says on the thing, "Genuine leather", so that's surely not...

• 8:09Speaker 00

  Is this the same place that you bought the Pringle Crocs? She is getting away with murder in that place.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  Actually, Pringle Crocs were sent to me by the brand. You're not the only one smashing it out there in brand land, Vogue.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  I'm also...

• 8:26Speaker 00

  I actually have a bone to pick with a brand. Who is the brand ambassador, like, not being paid or anything, but like, just in general life, I buy my own butter? But who is the brand ambassador that doesn't get paid of Kerrygold? Me. I always talk about Kerrygold and I eat it all the time. I saw them sending out people butter dishes. I didn't get a butter dish and they were amazing, like, better than the Pringle Crocs. They were like these Kerrygold special butter dishes. And Immo sent it to me and was like, "Oh, did you get one of these", and I was like, "No, that's embarrassing that I have to say that for Immo", I know. So I'm on the lure pack now.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  I wouldn't give a shit about a butter dish. What I would say is Kerrygold did this amazing collaboration with the bag designer, Jo, we'll ask you to fact check if you don't mind.

• 9:14Speaker 00

  She does it...

• 9:16Speaker 02

  And she brought out these Daimante Kerrygold bags and they were unbelievable. But sure, brands wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire. You'd want to see my stylist, who I'm working with for Unacceptable, her trying to get brands to send me clothes. Genuinely, they're like sending me bags of coal.

• 9:35Speaker 00

  Don't tell me I'm not the brand ambassador.

• 9:40Speaker 00

  Isn't it amazing?

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Considering this is an audible platform, I would like to say that Vogue has now whipped out a Daimante Kerrygold handbag.

• 9:48Speaker 00

  Clutch. And it's from a designer called Maya Grisham. And I don't think she did a collab with Kerrygold. She does these really cool bags. She's got a Tato bag. She's got like a Guinness, a pint of Guinness. She's loads of really cool stuff, but I don't think it's a collab. I think that she just does it herself.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  Oh, she just does it, doesn't she?

• 10:06Speaker 00

  Is that not the coolest bag?

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Sorry, Vogue, just as an aside, once again...

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Seattle, if anyone is floating around, knows anyone, I've really dropped the ball on Seattle.

• 10:20Speaker 00

  I thought, Seattle's, I think they'd like you there as well if they just gave you a chance.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  I think I've sold less tickets than I did the last time I did Seattle, which is highly irregular. Like usually you always go up, but I've really fucked it.

• 10:34Speaker 00

  I love that Joanne can be so, she's sold out three, three arenas, but she's still able to be humble and admit. Seattle.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Her feet are still nicely on the ground, aren't they?

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 00

  That's good, America's keeping you on your toes.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  One thing I will, one thing I will say is this American tour has been hashtag humbling, that much I will say. My feet aren't even on the ground, they're like, they're, they're in Middle Earth at this stage, I would say. They've actually gone below the ground. Oh yeah. Gotcha. But listen, America, you know what I mean? It's, it's not easy, especially if you don't tell anyone you're going.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  You'll have a nice time, the great chick comes over there in loads of ranch dressing.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  Twenty second, I, I fly on Monday, this is out Wednesday, so I'll be, oh.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Oh, you'll be there.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Oh no, sorry, the gig, the gig will be done. For fuck's sake.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  It was a really good plug anyway, we'll get it in.

• 11:25Speaker 00

  Thanks for not coming, everyone.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Just, just for the other shows.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  To the seven, to the seven people who've bought tickets, uh, uh, thanks, thanks a million for supporting and, and we, I'm sure we had a lovely time.

• 11:37Speaker 01

  We'll find out how it went on Friday.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Exactly, perfect.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  So I saw this thing online, it was from a mystery Saudi billionaire. He's looking for a wife. He put up a post and it said, it's to a mysterious Instagram account.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  Which has ties to a Saudi billionaire. A highly educated Saudi, Saudi Arabian billionaire owner of a prominent shopping malls and major business interests in Saudi Arabia and international, internationally is seeking a suitable lady for a second marriage.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:15Speaker 00

  He is currently married and his first wife is living. Very important to point that out.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  The prospective bride will be provided with a private villa, luxury car and a high-end lifestyle.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  Sorry, I know men.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  You don't have to put all the work in either, because someone else has taken half the heat for you.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  I know men notoriously move on very quickly, but it's unusual you find them publicly advertising while the first wife is still alive.

• 12:44Speaker 00

  It kind of concerns me the, the way he says it as well. First wife is, is, he is currently married and his first wife is living.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  Oh, maybe he's just saying, look, I, I have a, it's a blended family situation. Still want to get you on board, but just, just so you're aware, Eileen is still living.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Do you know what I mean?

• 13:04Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  So expect to see her at like Easter and family events. Fine. How rich is he? I'll apply. What's his name?

• 13:12Speaker 00

  He's a billionaire. He owns shopping malls and everything, so I did think it would be up your street. You could go shopping with no money. You just go in and say, sorry, my husband owns the place, I'm, I'm taking whatever I want.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  This is very Barbra Streisand coded. Remember she has a shopping centre underneath her house, so she can act like she's, yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 00

  Well, she only has a supermarket. She's a supermarket that she goes shopping in. But I just, do you know what I mean? They're moving online now, the Saudi billionaires, because when you think about it, everything is kind of online now. It might, it might not be that easy to meet a woman in Saudi. We don't know. I've never been.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  I wouldn't rule it out. I might be able to lactate.

• 13:50Speaker 02

  Joe.

• 13:51Speaker 00

  I may have a penis, but I can lactate for you.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  Possibly.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  You think you lactating will make you a hit in the UAE? Okay.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  Different strokes for different folks, mate. You don't know what they're looking for.

• 14:03Speaker 00

  I don't think that's the stroke they're looking for over there, my friend.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  They're gonna stroke you out of existence, buddy.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  Good luck. Yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 00

  So I thought that was an interesting thing.

• 14:15Speaker 00

  We could also, we could also talk about the other man who was a, a complete dope on that American Airlines flight and got basically duct taped to the, to the seat. Did you see, well, you did, you sent me it.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  Obviously I saw it. You know, I'm obsessed. I follow various Reddit threads that just feature people who've been duct taped to their seats. I wanted to pitch a TV show to Disney where I go around and interview people who have been duct taped or tasered on airplanes.

• 14:42Speaker 00

  And thrown off a flight and had, and caused an emergency landing and had the police come on board. Like it's, but people just, you lose your mind, but then some people like really lose their mind. This lad was 67 and he had to be restrained with zip ties. They aggressively duct taped him to the seat. See his face? His face is all like contorted from something from the ring or something. He's just like, half his jaws over one side of his head. It's like, but he was being, he was, he was pissed. Obviously they're always pissed. And he was shouting racist and homophobic slurs. And they all restrained him and just literally were like, fuck it, let's get all the duct tape. You have to look up the picture.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Hold on a second.

• 15:22Speaker 00

  It's mental.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Is he the lad who's come out since and he's like, I've absolutely no memory of what happened, I'm so embarrassed. Is that him? Oh yeah, here he is. I mean, to say it's undignified, I have never seen Anthony more embarrassing in my life.

• 15:37Speaker 00

  I would die.

• 15:41Speaker 00

  Honestly.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Like I don't, I don't want to gender this, but seeing a man duct taped like that with no dignity is, I hate to use the term, it's a big ick. Joe, have you seen him?

• 15:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  I don't remember any of what happened. Oh my God, what a mess. I don't remember any of it. I will say in, I'm not defending that man, but someone, as someone who flies, well, kind of, you know, frequently. And also dabbles in melatonin and red wine, I can just, can I just say, there but for the grace of God, go away.

• 16:13Speaker 00

  You can see what happened.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can imagine a day where you'll see me duct taped in the sky. Yeah.

• 16:21Speaker 00

  Okay, would you rather, I play this with the kids every day, would you rather be the woman from the high rocks or your man from the plane?

• 16:30Speaker 00

  You've got to choose. I think I'd rather, no, I think it's a really hard one because he was saying racist and homophobic things.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, actually no, that's really bad, yeah, I'd rather. But can I also just say, that woman from the high rocks is getting more media attention than the protest did in Iran. It's fucking nuts.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  Hmm, I know.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  She's apologised, she shot herself, she's given the thing back, like, we need to move on.

• 16:55Speaker 00

  Shit sells. I told you, shit sells.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  Very good, very good, shit sells. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd rather be her. I, I mean, screaming homophobic rants in the sky, it's not a good look. Yeah, it's not a good look, it's not a good look. I mean, it's gonna happen at some point in my life.

• 17:09Speaker 00

  She's gonna get a big deal with Pampers.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Sport Pampers.

• 17:12Speaker 00

  Okay, email. Yay, our emails are back. Okay. Hi Joanne, Vogue and Joe, please keep me in on. I fell into a long-distance relationship with a colleague a few months back. He's married. I know, I know, I'm sorry. I fell for it's basically over line. Never again. And it got very intense, very quickly. Constant messaging, video calls, talk of the future, gifting, talk of soulmates, et cetera, et cetera. I'm 40 and recently divorced, so it was amazing to feel wanted again by someone. We slept together on a work trip and almost as soon as I'd returned home, he had flicked a switch on the whole thing. Oh, it's just, it's always the same. Not hearing from him for hours, blah, blah, the usual, one, two, skip a few.

• 17:54Speaker 00

  I end the relationship, but something felt off, very off. Anyway, I was working early one morning and noticed he was in a call via Teams. With the time zones we're based in, this was 1am his time, my stomach dropped. Why was he on a work call at 1am? I noticed a hot.

• 18:11Speaker 02

  Sorry, this is, this is after she'd broken up with him, obviously. Yeah, fine, fine, fine, fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  I noticed a hot female colleague who had messaged me earlier in the day was also in a call. And over the next week, I caught them both on late night calls, dropping out of the call at the exact same time. Oh my God, that is like torture to yourself watching that.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  It is, it's awful.

• 18:31Speaker 00

  I felt sick. He just moved on instantly while I was there trying to get over this relationship and heal healthily. Does, he's just a serial asshole.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, he is, yeah.

• 18:40Speaker 00

  I've since realised he is a textbook covert narcissist, as in textbook. I had no idea these people existed and why they're evil. I've gone no contact with him other than when I unfortunately have to work with him, which luckily isn't too often. I see them on department calls messing about, laughing, messaging each other, and I'm convinced she was wearing his hoodie. He gave me one too. They love a playbook, these narcissists. It's been awful, but I'm getting over it now. My dilemma, obviously no one at work knows about him and I, because he's married and everyone thinks he's Mr. Nice. And no one will know the truth about his new affair. I'm with the new girl next month for work. Do I tell her the truth?

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 19:20Speaker 00

  I feel awful because I know what will come her way eventually when he starts to treat her badly. I also know if she's smitten with him like I was, she may not want to hear it. I also don't want to be the one to break her heart. They've been at it for about three months, so I'm guessing it's coming to, towards the end of the love bombing phase with him, so she might be receptive to hearing it, because he's a walking red flag, so she must have picked up on a few things already, or should I leave it be? I'd love your honest thoughts and advice. Loads of love. P.S. I'm coming to see Joanne Solo in Vegas next month. There you go, Joanne. Tickets sold.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Oh, thank God.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  Um, I, I, I.

• 20:04Speaker 00

  That's one person, that one, because you're grand, you're grand.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Thank God. Yeah.

• 20:08Speaker 00

  I would say, oh, as much as you'd want to, like, like, because I, I'm not involved in it at all, I would feel like, I'd be like, tell the wife, do this, do that, but like realistically, this guy will get caught, he'll, it will, karma will come back and bite him in the arse. And I would just like, hold your head up high and stay out of it. And just like, if that woman, that woman knows he's married, she knows she's playing with fire, she's old enough and bold enough to be at that. So I would leave her to it. And if she gets her heartbroken, it's just what, it's just what's gonna happen. You play with fire and you might get burned.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  I change my mind about stuff like this all the time. Like, there's a part of me that feels like, yeah, don't lower yourself, keep a cheek, don't bother getting involved. And then there's another side that's like, no, no, because you feel completely played. Like, you feel like he kind of took the piss. And you were on the receiving end of all this gorgeous attention. And then he took it. And now he's giving it to someone else, which is awful. It's an awful feeling because obviously we're wired to be accepted, et cetera. But this man is a serial fuckboy.

• 21:17Speaker 00

  Cheat. Yeah, he's a serial cheat.

• 21:20Speaker 02

  He's a serial fuckboy, but she still feels hurt. Like, they were, you know, they were still in a relationship, regardless of the ethics around it, like, they still were. So she feels rejected. He's putting his attention somewhere else. And, and yeah, she's well within her rights to feel like she wants to out him. I'll be honest, imagine being the wife. God love that woman. Like, imagine you're married, and there's two women about to have a, a, a hey girl, hey girly message about your husband. And neither of them are even coming to you about it. Cause he's so, he's such a whore that they're actually kind of like, holding each other up. Like his mistresses are now communicating, like, yeah.

• 22:01Speaker 00

  I, I genuinely feel for yourself to stay out of it because it's only gonna bring you trouble and you'll just, you'll regret it. And I just think that this girl is in the same position as you, obviously. But like, do you actually want to like, help her out? Or do you just want to get him back as well? I just, as hard as it is.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  A bit of both, I'd say. I'd say, I'd say it's a bit of both. And I think that's okay. I think I, in this situation, I think I would say it to her. Because I think he's a, he's a menace. And I think, I don't, I don't like when people go around treating people like shit, like over and over again, with no consequences.

• 22:36Speaker 00

  Well, if you're gonna tell her, why don't you tell the wife?

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Because that's a totally different thing. That's, that's really heavy.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  I just, I just feel like, it's, I, I do honestly think that they're saying, if you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt. I think it applies to, to, to this situation massively. And like, I'm not, I'm not judging you for what, what has happened, because I, these things happen, they do. And it's like, he's the asshole mainly. But I do think that at the end of the day, when you were with him, he was in a relationship and, and now he's like, fucked you over. And now he's in another relationship, but he's also still married. And it's, the whole thing is just an itchy soup of, of bullshit. And I'd just stay, I'd stay as far away from him as you possibly can. I wouldn't even talk to him. I just would completely zone him out and block him out and just try and like, hold your own head up high and ignore the whole thing and just let everything play out on its own.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I'd, I'd say it to her. That he's losing a hoodie every three months. Why do you keep losing your hoodies? Why?

• 23:34Speaker 00

  She'll think she's throwing it out to help out with the wardrobe.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Man, their hoodies, they're so full of shit. They're unhinged on their profile. They'll be like, I want my hoodie back at the end. Like, they're just, fuck off. Buy a fucking new hoodie. You're shopping off sheen. But I would say it to the other girlfriends. I would, I actually would. I'd be like, you know, he's notorious. I was in the same boat. I would say it. Whether it be bitterness, I don't know what my intention is, but I would, I would say it. I wouldn't engage with the wife. I think that's too heavy. But I would probably say it to the new mistress.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Balanced advice then.

• 24:05Speaker 00

  Balanced advice and no real advice. You're gonna have to decide what to do yourself.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  You're entitled to be pissed off and hurt. You're entitled to want to say something.

• 24:13Speaker 00

  A hundred percent, you're entitled to be pissed off and hurt. This guy's an asshole. But, but he just, I just wouldn't give him the time of day. I just have to pretend he was so, so minimal in my life that like, he didn't exist because I, I'd be so repulsed by him. He's an asshole. He's like the worst kind of person.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  He's just a horny, pathetic child.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  We have to go. Joe's cutting us off. It's not me. I always listen to this and I'm like, it sounds like I'm cutting us off, but I'm just looking at Joe. Joe's the culprit here, everybody. Thank you for listening.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Waves his hand, makes it.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Say, say it, say it to her. And when you're in San Fran, DM me and we'll go for a wine after. And I want to hear more of this story.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  vague. You're going out with Swiggy in San Fran. You can go out with her in Vegas. Okay. You're busy in San Fran.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  I've three nights in San Francisco. Three.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  I thought it was three nights in Vegas.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  It is also three nights in Vegas.

• 25:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Have you not been listening?

• 25:07Speaker 00

  We'll miss you.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  To my relentless plugging.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  We'll speak to you in the US, won't we, on Friday?

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:14Speaker 00

  Bye, everyone.

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  Bye. See you in Seattle, Denver, Phoenix, Arizona, Dallas, Texas, wherever floats your boat. I'll be there.

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