MTGM EXTRA! "Well I've seen your b**bs but you won't show me the rest"

Joanne is live from Ibiza (medicated and hydrated), Vogue is pregnant on a beach and apparently that's illegal now, and Grace Campbell has just walked into frame completely starkers. It's chaos. This week's email comes from a listener trapped in what can only be described as Ireland's longest situationship... four years of Tinder matches, fizzled summers, wedding mishaps and a man who keeps popping up like a Pokémon. Plus: Joanne's internet dies mid-pod, so she's haunting us via WhatsApp voice note. Legend has, she still is... My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  Ireland's longest situationship. I need your help because I think I've accidentally become a recurring character in a romantic sitcom. Let's call him Damien.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  Well, that's a terrible start.

• 0:21Speaker 00

  Hello. Hello and welcome to my therapist ghost meeting with me, Vogue Williams and Joan McNally.

• 0:27Speaker 01

  Joan McNally.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  And a lovely surprise in the background. Thank you for that, Joan. It has really brightened our day.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  She just had her, what was the, Grace Campbell just walked into camera bollock naked.

• 0:39Speaker 00

  And then walked and then, and then returned and then walked away and said, oh, sorry. And then returned again. And then went and did a little spin in the corner.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  She walked in on all fours with a saddle on her back. I was like, oh, sorry, guys.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  Do you remember Trinny, remember Trinny was going out with that guy, the rich guy? And she was doing, satchi and she was doing a segment on this morning and he walked in naked. Do you remember this? She was doing a live in her bedroom and he walked out of the shower. So Grace Campbell's just had a sati moment. She's free. She's a free woman. She hasn't worn a sock or a pant since we've been here. She's a naked baby.

• 1:21Speaker 00

  It's lovely when you get to that age where you're just like, you're like, I'm gonna, I don't care. Like back in, like if I was 18 and that happened to me, I'd be so embarrassed. But then you're just like, I don't care. I don't care.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  She's a boho baby.

• 1:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm not, I'm not much of a nudie girl, as you aren't really either, Joan. I haven't seen much, well, I've seen your boobs, but that's it. She won't show me the rest. I've asked.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm repressed.

• 1:48Speaker 00

  So am I. I'm the same. I just, I sleep in pyjamas.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like the weight of material on my body at night and I am repressed. I, I mean, am I gonna blame Catholicism? I shouldn't, but I will. I mean, it makes no difference in my life, being a Catholic at all, et cetera. I make excuses about being repressed.

• 2:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I think it does have a lot to do with certain ways that we are. Like it's, I guess maybe it's a bit of an Irish thing as well to be not going around like naked. Because I don't have any, many Irish friends who are big naked goers. But Svenny would happily, like you've seen him naked because he just, he's walked into the back of the shot and he just doesn't care.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  He's had a sati moment. He's had a couple of sati moments on the pod, hasn't he? It just shows how unprofessional me and Vogue are. They're just throwing the camera up wherever we can. Any solid table, we're like, whack it up, go live. No, we were never a naked family. We were a clothed family. Naked families are French.

• 2:49Speaker 00

  French, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of, I'm gonna say there's UK based naked families as well. I just was not one of the naked families. Yeah. Now, people find it weird that I have seen now, I have seen, not in a weird way. I would like to just point it out, but I have seen my father's parts. I walked in one day and yes, I had, of course I was gonna look. I couldn't not look. They were just there. And same with my brothers. I walked into his room one morning and my elder brother and his, his, his duvet wasn't on properly. But like, he should have known the rules. We're not a naked family.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  We're not a naked family. Yeah. Fully clothed. You'll sleep in a duffel coat because you're Catholic. No one wants to see any of your shit at any stage. But it's gas.

• 3:31Speaker 00

  Shower in your knickers.

• 3:33Speaker 01

  We're all in the beach in lagging jackets in case anyone, God forbid, anyone sees a scratch on us. Don't look at me.

• 3:42Speaker 00

  I keep seeing comments about me like, oh, there she is on the beach with her bum. Disgusting. Put it away. I'm on the beach. Like I'm wearing swimwear. I'm wearing the appropriate attire for the beach. And do you know what? I can't get a swimsuit to fit.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry. I find that highly offensive that I, firstly, we Vogue carry high levels of shame. I do think there's something, I think Irish traditionally do. I mean, I hate to lean on our ancestors, but they've given us some weird shit for sure. But like, that's our own problem. But like, giving out about a pregnant woman being on a beach. I mean, that's just flat out misogyny. Or you're pregnant. You're about to give birth. You're about to do the most difficult thing in the world. And the fact that they would judge that you were showing, showing your, but you're just, you're just surviving and living in the world in a, in a heatwave in Spain.

• 4:38Speaker 00

  I'm trying to survive. And I've seen many a man.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  How is that offensive?

• 4:41Speaker 00

  Many a man with their tummies out. Many a man and I see no issue with it and I, I embrace them. I enjoy them.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:47Speaker 00

  One man.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Probably far more rotund than your own.

• 4:51Speaker 00

  So I was walking up the beach anyway with, as some people are saying, my guts hanging out. It is not my guts. Anyway, and I'm walking by this man who was also topless and, and had, had a little protruding belly, shall we say. And he said, it's very difficult, isn't it, Vogue, in this heat to be pregnant?

• 5:11Speaker 01

  That's funny. I like him. Who is he?

• 5:14Speaker 00

  I love you.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Is he single? That's gas.

• 5:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, I considered like, maybe I should make friends with him.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 5:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, really nice.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  I love when people are nice. Do you know what I mean?

• 5:24Speaker 00

  I know. Just, I was only saying that to Amor today.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  That interaction is just fun.

• 5:28Speaker 00

  Just be nice and just have a laugh. I'm like, we're only, like I genuinely just feel over the last while, I'm just like, I'm saying this to Amor. Like, like we're only here for a short while. Let's all just have like a bit of a laugh. Don't take everything so serious, please. God.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Like they were saying the security had turned up. I thought it was to us, but it was to the room next door.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  I wonder what the gas there is.

• 5:52Speaker 00

  Oh, my.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  I don't know. Don't know what's going on.

• 5:56Speaker 00

  It looks amazing. It's right by the sea.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  It is. It's Italian. I think it's kind of newish and it's right on the beach. And yeah, but it's like, it's not, it's not a party. I think it's like somewhere in the middle. It's not like a party hotel. But it's not dead at the same time. And like the pool has like that pumping music and stuff. It's good crack.

• 6:14Speaker 00

  That's quite fun. I kind of don't think that I could do though an ashwaya. Like people can stay there and they stay around and it's like, that's it. But I suppose if you're there for a party, party, it would be fun.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  What's an ashwaya?

• 6:27Speaker 00

  Ashwaya is like where Calvin Harris and stuff plays and it's like this, it starts slightly earlier, I think than other ones. But like, it's got like this kind of pool vibe and there's all like apartments around the pool.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:38Speaker 00

  I don't think I'd be able for that now. I wouldn't be able for that.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Oh my God. Guess who I met?

• 6:43Speaker 00

  Olivia Atwood.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  Well, yes, but that wasn't who I was gonna say. But yes, we hung out with Olivia. We were obsessed with her. She is beguiling, as Grace Campbell would say. She is beguiling, charming, lovely. Guess who else I met?

• 6:57Speaker 00

  Carl Cox.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  No, I didn't go to Carl Cox in the end, much to my shame. I bailed.

• 7:02Speaker 00

  Oh, listen, we are disgusting.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  Two huge nights and, and yesterday we got these gorgeous like IV drips and stuff. And then last night we were, I mean, we were pretty, I mean, I'm 43.

• 7:15Speaker 00

  How many people mailed you? Sorry, no, I won't accept that. You're 43. You look better and feel better than I feel today. What the fuck? I went to bed at half nine.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Well, you are with child.

• 7:28Speaker 00

  Doesn't matter. You don't deserve this. I'm sorry, but you don't.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  I can't help but that I'm naturally hydrated. Although when I got the IV drip, the nurse who put the IV drip in, she goes, wow, it's really going in quick. I said, what does that mean? It's like, she goes, it just means you're really dehydrated. I was like, okay.

• 7:50Speaker 00

  I'm surprised your body didn't reject it like it would a kidney. It's like, what the fuck is this? Is this water?

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like, bleh.

• 7:56Speaker 00

  Give me a heads up.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  But we posted a video of me and Grace getting the drips and DJ Fat Tony wrote to me. Amateurs. We're like, oh, we're being heckled by DJ Fat Tony.

• 8:08Speaker 00

  How many people mailed you and said, they don't work. They won't get anything from it. Do you know what? They do work at the time and I don't care what anyone says.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  There is a lot of that. You're pissing it out. I don't know. Like I think there's no harm in us. Do you know, if it does anything, if it does something, and Rachel, the woman who does it, she's really sound. And we wanted to hang out with her again. So we were like, can we get some drips? That was why I was good. But guess, guess who we met, Vogue? Guess, guess, guess.

• 8:33Speaker 00

  Okay, let me guess a few more. Calvin Harris.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  No.

• 8:36Speaker 00

  David Guetta.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  He's not, he is famous, but not in the traditional sense.

• 8:41Speaker 00

  DJ Fat Tony.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  No. I mean, I think he's famous in the traditional sense. No, we spoke about him before. I said, when I'm coming out, who do I want to meet?

• 8:50Speaker 00

  Oh God, I don't know. Pikes. No.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  No.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  And of course.

• 8:59Speaker 00

  They got you out the guy out of the K-hole.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Of course I had a couple of drinks on board. So I just, halfway through me, performing the voice note to him, I'd say, I actually stopped myself and was like, how many times do you get this? And he's like, thousands a night. Thousands. You've maneuvered me here.

• 9:18Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Hi, it's Nick from Pikes here. Hi, it's the manager from Pikes. Got your friend here, he's in a K-hole. I'm stoned. Yeah. Anyway, if you can come and get him.

• 9:30Speaker 00

  If you've never seen anyone in a K-hole, which I, luckily I did in Ibiza, or else my trip would have been not worth it.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  You're back garden. Gigi's birthday party. I'd say there was so much.

• 9:42Speaker 00

  I saw a man in a K. K is meant to be really bad for you, by the way. It's meant to make you not wee. It's meant to really ruin your bladder.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  I know, apparently. And it's a, it's a huge thing at the moment. So when we were growing up, pills were the thing. And there was young people, like, there was like, people, like young people dying to do pills. Now it's K. And it's, it's really addictive apparently and it's cheap and loads of the young people are, young, loads of the young people, the young people are on it. And it stops them being able to urinate.

• 10:09Speaker 00

  It is, it can be entertaining when somebody is in a K-hole because they basically.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  Drugs are bad.

• 10:14Speaker 00

  Drugs are bad, but like they walk like a crab. They will make absolutely no sense. And trying to move them like that poor man in Pikes was probably trying to get that man. Cause you're like a dead weight. You're alive, but you're just like a dead body. People look like this. I saw a man, his two friends had to help him into the hotel. I was like, oh wow, it's eight o'clock at night. Like where the hell did you go?

• 10:34Speaker 01

  It is a, it is a tranquilizer ultimately. So, you know.

• 10:39Speaker 00

  For horsies. That's why it doesn't work on me. Too used to it.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  No, the K is like, I can't deal with a carcass this size.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  But anyway, met Nick, so sound. I'm meeting loads of podcast, I'm meeting loads of ghosted listeners out here. Our listeners are party girls. Yeah, they're party girls.

• 11:01Speaker 00

  I have to say, I did notice that from the tour, to be honest with you. Oh my God. I don't know what's more shocking, that Joanne has actually remembered how to move the camera back, or that she has the camera with her. What? She's brought the camera to Ibiza? I had FOMO when I didn't go to Carl Cox, obviously, but like, I knew that there was, there was, there was, there was a way to get there again. I, I have really bad news for you. So Carl Cox was playing Ernie, and then he was playing back to back with David Guetta, and then he was playing Ozon again, and he missed us.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  I know, I know. It is actually, I actually am quite embarrassed. I know. It was, we had two huge nights and two huge days.

• 11:44Speaker 00

  Who have you gone to see?

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Went to see Boys Noise, went to see Dom Dalla.

• 11:49Speaker 00

  No.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 00

  Boys Noise? Oh my God.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  Went to see Dom Dalla.

• 11:54Speaker 00

  Was that amazing? Where was that?

• 11:56Speaker 01

  In.

• 11:58Speaker 00

  Who cares? He went to see Boys Noise. Did you go to see?

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Ben you.

• 12:02Speaker 00

  Was it a club by chance?

• 12:04Speaker 01

  It was a club. There was walls, a roof, and a DJ set, and like loads of people going mad. Yeah, it was deadly. Really good crack. I'm here for another week.

• 12:14Speaker 00

  Oh my God.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  The guys are going home.

• 12:16Speaker 00

  It's, has it cooled down?

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not, it's actually not as bad as I thought it was gonna be. Cause I was thinking, I was like, I'm gonna have to give up my pride, give up the chance of getting, to give up the chance of having any sort of romance over here. No rights. And I was gonna buy one of those neck fans. Do you know those neck fans? They're like spinning around. And like, they're undignified, but they do the job. I thought that's where I was gonna go. Like wearing a neck brace. But it's actually not that bad. I'm thrilled.

• 12:42Speaker 00

  No, it's cooled down. It's cooled down here as well. It's only, it's 27 here, which is, which is quite a joyous temperature to live in.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  I didn't even have to come off my medication, much to everyone's joy.

• 12:53Speaker 00

  You do seem in good form today. I can tell. I can still, you're still on it.

• 12:58Speaker 01

  I'll do it, guys. I didn't do it. Yeah. So I'm medic, I'm medicated and I'm cool. It's all, it's working out.

• 13:10Speaker 00

  Although you look well, I'm sure your brain's not functioning as well as it could be. So when it starts functioning properly again, I want you to write in all the Ibiza stuff.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 00

  You wanna hear all of the gossip.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  No, I'll do a full, I'll do a full loading. I bought a dress in Pikes. I really invested in Pikes. I was going shopping in there. Yeah.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  I was with Adam Sherry, one of our friends, Adam Sherry. We were talking about his dog on this podcast a while ago. And I said to him, I was like, yeah, Joanne's in Ibiza. And I was like, but I love when she goes away. Because she's the only person that will tell you when she actually went to bed. Everyone else is like, I think, I think I went around half past nine. Joanne will give us the dirt on the next.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  It was 10am. There was families pushing proms past us. It was humiliating. I've never felt worse about myself in my life. Yeah.

• 13:59Speaker 00

  Way.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  I'll tell, I'll tell you the truth, Vogue. I'll tell you the truth. Yeah.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  Okay. Ireland's longest situationship. Hi, Joanne, Vogue and Joe. We've actually got MO covering Joe on the pod. Cause Joanne, guess what? Joe is on, where is he? Is it, are you saying I'm the dual leap of Ireland? Joe's the dual leap of England. He's on his holidays again.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Poor Joe gets like two weeks off, like literally standard practice.

• 14:29Speaker 00

  I know.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  And when he goes away, me and Vogue are like, oh, well, it's nice for some.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  He's supposed to get 28 days off. Do you, do you, you get 28?

• 14:39Speaker 02

  I think we get 25 plus bank holidays and then, but he might get extra days for doing really long service.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  For working with us, basically.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  There's like four days bonus off for his mental health. Is that what you're saying?

• 14:54Speaker 00

  He gets, yeah, he gets mental health days. That's exactly what he gets. Joe, you have your holidays, but then you have six mental health days because you're working with those ghosted me.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  He'll come back, we'll see the indent of a straitjacket on his back. He'll be like, hey, no, no, no, everything's fine. No, I feel great now. He's had a lobotomy.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Joanne texts a group this morning and was like, I need to change the pod time. But she sent it to me and Joe, and Joe had already told us that he was coming on holidays for two weeks. Joe's not here. Joe just writes back, please don't depress me.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Joe going on holidays. It's not information I take on board. And also, my memory is so bad. Grace and Ross were actually saying to me the other day, they're like, are you okay? Like, they were talking about nights out, or days, or events, like huge things. And I was like, nah. They're like, you were there, Joanne. They're like, show me photos and all. I was like, I think I've early onset dementia. It's my biggest fear. Let's hear the email.

• 15:43Speaker 00

  You definitely don't. Svenny has that too. He just forgets certain like big life events. He still refuses to accept that you lived with.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  I thought you were gonna refuse to accept you're married. So I was like, what?

• 15:56Speaker 01

  He just doesn't remember the day.

• 15:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's swearing down it.

• 15:58Speaker 01

  He's like, really, Vogue?

• 15:59Speaker 00

  Ever happened.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  Creatine is key. I have my mother on the creatine now as well. It's great for cognitive awareness.

• 16:06Speaker 00

  Now, you don't want to overdo the creatine because I know somebody, I know somebody who did, and he's got a real bad tum tum for a while. And has had to cut right back. Yeah.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  Oh, but, but is he, but, but is he like Rain Man now? That's what I'm hoping. I would take some indigestion if I could remember my own phone number, to be honest.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  It's, it's actually, it's Sven and he still forgets things like you.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  Here was me ready to go full collab with the creatine community. Yeah. Can you not take creatine if you're pregnant?

• 16:38Speaker 00

  I don't really know. Cause you can take like, like you can take collagen and stuff like that. So I don't, I mean, they just tell you not to take anything, don't do anything.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't have any fun.

• 16:45Speaker 00

  I was gonna have a glass of champagne the other day. And then it's like, there's all these conflicting things. And everyone's like, well, it's like, the odd one is fine. And then it's like, no, you shouldn't have any. And I'm like, but what about the people who drink that?

• 16:55Speaker 01

  You can't do anything when you're pregnant.

• 16:57Speaker 00

  I was looking in the mirror.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  You're cooking a human.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  I know, but I was looking in the mirror last night and I was like, oh God. And I'm counting down the days of how much longer that I'll be pregnant. But like not, I wasn't doing it in a good way last night. I was like, oh my God, this is the last time that like this will ever be this. And then this morning I was like, fuck this. Fuck. I'm bollocked.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Get it out. I would, I would be very convinced, I would be more willing to go down the pregnancy route if it was a three week process. It's the nine month side of it just feels brutal.

• 17:26Speaker 00

  And, and Joanne, it's actually 10 months. It's 40 weeks. It's 10 months. And I must send you the date to see if you're here, because you're gonna pop in and say hi to me. That would be fun.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  No, I have the dates. It's in my conjure. Cause I'm going in for the gas and air.

• 17:36Speaker 00

  Okay, great. Good. Once you have the dates, because it is.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Shit like that, I absolutely remember. The fact that you're pregnant, I kept forgetting. But the fact that I have a booking with the gas and air, that I do remember. Cause that's how I work.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  I'll be like going in the gas. I'm like, why are we here? He was like, because I'm having a child. I'm like, oh God, I forgot again.

• 17:56Speaker 00

  What do you do there? I'm in labour actually, Joanne. You've, you've actually come into my room. You're not in hospital.

• 18:04Speaker 00

  They do a great meal in there. Okay. I need your help because I think I've actually accidentally become a recurring character in a romantic sitcom. Let's call him Damien.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  Well, that's a terrible start.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  I know. That's what we call Otto when he's having an off day.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Terrible, terrible. I'm sorry to the Damien community, but it's not, like, at least I'd go Demo. If I'd, I'd be, I'd be leading with Demo or Dee.

• 18:28Speaker 00

  It reminds me of the, of the omen.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  Of course. Yeah. It's, it's, yeah, it's a really bad name. Sorry. But if this, if this, if this romance story works out, at the end, we'll say it's a lovely name. I'm starting on her side. Yeah.

• 18:40Speaker 00

  Okay. We matched on Tinder. Of course we're starting on her side. We matched on Tinder back in 2022. That's four years ago. And dated for a lovely summer. Things fizzled out, not because either of us did anything wrong, but because he wanted to move towards Dublin, while I was happily staying put in Kerry, building a house. Wrong place, wrong time. Wow. Building a house in Kerry, my eyes. A couple of months later, he popped back up asking if we could just be friends because we'd always got on so well. We were terrible at being friends. There was flirting, a kiss, and eventually we admitted this friendship wasn't working and called it quits again.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  Fast forward another year. We randomly bumped into each other, got back in touch, had a brilliant date in his hometown. After I was at a wedding in Dublin and we slept together. We had another lovely date in Kerry a few weeks later. Then comes the part where I, I may be the villain.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 19:30Speaker 00

  Joanne has, her internet has died. So I am, she can, she can see us. She can hear us. So she's essentially a ghost on the pod right now. I'm gonna finish the email. If Joanne has thought she's going to, she's going to voice notice. Okay. I casually invited him to the second day of a friend's wedding. Oh, that's spicy to ask someone to that. On the first day of the wedding, I ended up meeting another guy, got completely distracted. And when Damien texted asking, what time should I come? I ignored him. Yes.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  Not my finest moment. I made up a rubbish excuse the following day and understandably he cooled off after that. I mean, I just, I don't really, like, you're at a wedding, things change. You don't know him that well for him to be concerned by that. We texted on off until I got into a relationship in 2024. Out of respect for my boyfriend, I told Damien we shouldn't be talking anymore. Now for the plot twist. This January 2026, he liked me on Hinge. I accepted and we've been chatting ever since. In March, he told me he'd like us to be more than friends, only to completely row it back off for fucks a week later.

• 20:45Speaker 00

  Is this not called bread coming or something where you're just like, you're keeping someone on board and then you're not really that interested? You're kind of bread coming each other. When I asked him what was going on, he said, I just don't know what I want. Yes. He still messages me constantly. So ladies, what is his game? Is he genuinely interested but afraid? Am I his emotional support pen pal? Is he keeping me on the long finger while deciding? Or is this just a man who enjoys collecting me like a Pokemon every couple of years? Part of me wonders if I should cut contact because if a man knows, he knows the part of me. The other part of me thinks somehow we've kept finding our way back to each other over the four years, but maybe, so maybe that's worth something. Have I anything to lose by keeping this going? Or am I wasting your own time?

• 21:27Speaker 00

  Please help a very confused Kerry girl. In my opinion, you are wasting your time. I think that if he wanted to be with you, he would be with you and he would make sure that that was to happen. And I don't think that the wedding situation was all that bad, to be honest. I don't think that makes you the villain. I think that you just like hooked up with someone at the wedding and like, obviously you weren't really like involved with this guy. So it doesn't really matter. It's not like he was your boyfriend. But I do, it feels like he's bread coming you to come back on Hinge like you and then be doing this whole thing again. I don't know. Like dude, you've had four years to know. Do you know what I mean? I just, I'm all for romance, but no. Joanne?

• 22:07Speaker 01

  WhatsApps, listening to Vogue read the email. He is wasting your time. He is wasting your precious time. He's, he's writing checks, he's never gonna cash. He's keeping him on the side.

• 22:22Speaker 01

  You're a side hustle. Get rid of this person immediately. Cut him off.

• 22:28Speaker 00

  Cut him off. That's probably one of the first times Joanne and I have ever agreed on something. Cut him right off. You're better than that. You deserve more than that. And you're like, your time is more important than that. Fuck off. You don't need time to make your, to make your decision. You should know.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  If it makes her feel any better, please tell her from the WhatsApps that I've had one of, I had one of those that went on for 10 years. 10 years, 10 of my youngest, hottest, most fertile years. This lad breadcrumbed me relentlessly and I let him much to my shame.

• 23:04Speaker 00

  Oh God, you've gotta love Joanne's like enthusiasm though. You know?

• 23:10Speaker 02

  Commitment to the bed.

• 23:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, you are very committed. Well done, but don't, yeah, let that be a lesson to learn. Don't let someone do that to you. Okay, everyone, is she coming back from work? This is great. Will we just do this from now on?

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Cut him out like a verruca. Ice him out.

• 23:30Speaker 00

  That is a perfect way to end this pod. Thank you, everybody for listening. And get ready for all of the Abitha news on the next pod because Joanne will tell us exactly what she got up to, exactly what time she went to bed and everything in between. I'm so excited. I'm not even gonna talk to her till then.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  He is a pest. He's like the mouse, he's like the mouse in my house. He's taking the piss.

• 23:56Speaker 00

  We're gonna be getting your voice notes all day. This is gonna go around to Joanne's head all day. Okay, well, thanks for listening. See you later.

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