MTGM EXTRA! "It's the small things, isn't it?"

Joanne's time in Australia is nearly up, but there's still work to do. Aside from that, there are a few allegations flying about in the ether that need attention too... The legal team are on standby as a result. Plus, a deliciously petty piece of play from a listener who is better off after a break up. My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  I want it on the record now. I'd like to be, I'd like to donate myself, all of myself.

• 0:11Speaker 02

  I've got a degree from Harvard.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 0:16Speaker 02

  You were never an issue, not once. Won't you close the bedroom door when Joanna's over?

• 0:22Speaker 01

  I struggle to contribute here because I'm gra- I'm gross.

• 0:32Speaker 02

  Well, we just did the pod letter. Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me Vogue Williams, Jo Atwell and Joanna somewhere around her room.

• 0:41Speaker 03

  And a vacant microphone somewhere in Australia.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  She's putting on a lip. She's still got the shades on, don't worry. She hasn't, she hasn't completely lost her mind. Shades are glued to the face.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  Just putting a little lippy on there. Just putting a lip on.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  Just putting a lip on there.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  That's made, that has made a big difference. I have to say, what a dif.

• 1:01Speaker 01

  Do you know why I put a lip on?

• 1:03Speaker 02

  Because you like my lipstick.

• 1:05Speaker 01

  Well, because, well, yeah, so of course, sure, let's make it about you. But otherwise, as I was waiting to log on, I heard Jo say, Vogue, your hair looks nice today. And I felt a couple of things. Disgust, jealousy.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Patience, remorse. Sorry, Jo, I'm not finished. I'm not, sorry, Jo, I'm not finished with all my feelings.

• 1:31Speaker 03

  So sorry.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Legally threatened.

• 1:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, fair.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do two things. I'm gonna put on a lip so I get a compliment and I'm also gonna ring HR.

• 1:43Speaker 03

  So what are you after me saying? Your lips look nice today?

• 1:46Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm sorry. Would that be such a stretch, Jo?

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Well, I think that that's a bit much. It's a bit sexual. The lips are just, they're just a sexual part.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  They're my face lips. I'm not rubbing my crotch near the camera.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  Jesus, can I not just get a fucking compliment?

• 2:02Speaker 02

  Joanna's just gone and pulled her trousers in and put some lip gloss on. Now, we know it's your face lips, but it's the same kind of thing.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  Full Katy Perry in Rose, what's her face, where one says she rolled her, I mean, can we just, can we discuss that for a second?

• 2:17Speaker 02

  I don't know what we can discuss because obviously it's a legal case, but I think.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  Your one really be rows.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  I don't, yeah, I don't make you feel weird because I'll start, I'm actually starting to give like context to things and it's really freaking Joanna.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  It's upsetting me.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  It worries her. That's her job. I read the emails.

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  I've had to up my meds. I'm very disturbed by the whole thing. It's, I'm unsettled with the sudden context of Vogue was giving stories. I'm like, what's my role?

• 2:45Speaker 02

  But people are, people.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Who am I now? I don't exist. I don't exist. She reads the emails. Now she, now she gives context? I don't understand. What's the point of me?

• 2:55Speaker 02

  I've only started realising, maybe, I don't know where it's.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  I don't even have, Jo doesn't even notice my lips.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  My hair hasn't been done, by the way. Tadley did my hair two days ago. I know, I've noticed people, and I said, I text Ben and I was like, Ben, I need your, I need your psychologist who did your ADHD test, which Spenny has. And I was like, I just need to do it now because I've started noticing people are like, what? Because I'm like going in and out of conversations so much. I think they think that there's something wrong with me, which there is. But I'm, that's why I'm trying my best to be like, okay, let people understand what you're talking about before you just go into it.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Sorry. Oh, I understand. Yeah, fair enough. And I, and I do think it is useful and helpful because, because there is nothing worse than listening to two people talking absolute shit without any, when they've no respect for the fact that you, you know, you don't know what they're talking about. Also, you know, fills the time, doesn't it?

• 3:50Speaker 02

  I feel like I don't get a head start though now anymore. Like, because I've always been ahead of everyone in the conversation and I don't care about where they are in it. But now I feel like we're starting at the same place and I don't like it as much.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. You need to, you need, we need to get you on the, on the TBC. No, not the TBC. That's to be confirmed. What's that? That's, what's the, TCB?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  TCB, that's the one.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  So, couple of things. Now, a couple of things are going on this week and me and Vogue, we've always been very clear. We stay in our lane and our lane is furry rainbows and fiddly sticks. However, oh, here we go.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Be weird if she was ever in a hotel. It's like she times it, that like it will be delivered when we are only online.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Jan is here.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  She's got a crate of something. What the hell is in there?

• 4:46Speaker 03

  That's like an entire case of wine she's just had pushed through the door.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  We don't know how long she's in Sydney for. Oh God, I just, I wish I liked wine. Well, do you know what? And no offence, Joanne or Joe, I used to associate wine with like billionaires on yachts. Joanne, sorry, I'm just, I want to, I want to caveat, no offence, just before I say this. I used to think of wine like as billionaires on yachts, like sipping like glasses of red wine and stuff. And I always used to think it was super fancy.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  I can see where, I can see where this is going. And I'll tell you now, offence taken, offence taken.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  But I

• 5:20Speaker 01

  I can smell where this is going. Offence taken.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  I always wanted to be like one of those like glamorous people in like those clubs in Saint-Tropez. I've never been to Saint-Tropez, but like with a chilled glass of wine. And then you two fucking yobs, you drink pints of wine in front of me. I'm like, I don't know how classy this is.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Sorry, that is not a pint. It is a, that's like, that's a, that's, that's one of those glasses you put your mouthwash in at the sink in a hotel.

• 5:52Speaker 02

  It actually is.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  There's no wine glasses in this room.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you guys think that I'm a loser because I want to order milk at the table. Like the state of you two with your pints of wine sitting there thinking you're classy. Well, you're not. You look like trash.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  I don't think, I don't think, well, in fairness now, you can say what you want about myself and Joe Atti Wells, but I don't think either of us have ever claimed to be classy. Have we, Joe?

• 6:14Speaker 03

  Not once. No, thank you.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Not a crustacean between us. Anyway.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  Before, before I did this podcast, people actually did have the perception that there was a bit of class to me. By the way, I'll have you know.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. And thank, and thank God.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  We fixed that for you. You're welcome.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Not people I knew, obviously.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  But strangers thought she might be classy.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Me and Jo work, work night and day to make you relatable. It is a full-time job. We work through the night.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  Dragging down.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  PowerPoint presentations, plans. We're like pushing little boats around maps to make you relatable. You're welcome.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  So, someone mailed me and they were like, oh my God, I just saw you on my flight and you were flying economy. I was really taken aback.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  We fly it often. I should post debate that more.

• 7:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, you should, you should, you should. You should be, you should be checking into the DART more. The DART is our kind of train system in Ireland. Vogue, I would recommend.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  Joanne, I've been on the DART more recently than you've been on the DART. When was the last time you were on the DART? How many years?

• 7:23Speaker 01

  So this isn't a competition, Vogue. I am in Australia on a tour. Excuse you. I don't have time to get the DART, okay?

• 7:30Speaker 02

  What public transport system do they have in Australia? Do you even know?

• 7:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a long black car with blackout windows. And the driver, driver wears a little hat and it's called Charles. That's all I know.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Oh God.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  So Ruby Rose and Katy Perry. Ruby Rose is an Australian. She was, she started out as a DJ. She's beautiful. She's this Australian DJ and then she went into acting and she was doing quite a lot of acting. And she was doing Orange is the New Black and like really big shows. But from what I gather, she was quite difficult to work with and then ended up stopping doing stuff like that because of the difficulties. And I don't actually know too much about it, other than she was, she used to be Catwoman. And then she kind of lost the, the job as Catwoman because she was very difficult to work with. Anyway, she has come out and claimed that Katy Perry sexually assaulted her years ago in a nightclub by rubbing her vagina, her vagina in her face.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Her face. I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say this now. And now, look, I am not a solicitor.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  I am not a psychiatrist.

• 8:46Speaker 02

  Are you not?

• 8:48Speaker 01

  I know, I know. I know, I actually, I meant, I meant to say that to you a couple of years ago because I know you think that I am those things, but I'm not.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  I just bought the paperwork online in Abu Dhabi, but I'm not actually qualified. But I actually.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  Degree from Harvard.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Do you? But sorry.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, you wouldn't know, actually.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  But you not remember I did that like weekend course about cholera from um Harvard have these online courses. Yeah, you're sorry you brought it up now, aren't you? Yeah, remember now I have a degree in cholera, it took me two days. Anyway, that's not the point.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  What a useful degree, actually.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Well, I it actually is really useful because I really enjoyed it. I find it quite pleasant.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  Theodore would love for you to talk to him about cholera because he has a Tony that tells about all these old and day diseases.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 9:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, he loves it.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  I actually picked up a book. I was I was sauntering around a bookshop the other day looking for Louise O'Neill's new book, Whatever Happened to Madeleine Stone? Which isn't hasn't quite made it to Australia yet. It's it's it is out, but it hasn't made it to Australia yet. Although then I then I rang Louise, I was like, where's the fucking book? And she was like, it is there somewhere. I was like, well, it's not in Boffin's bookshop in Perth. Anyway, I was walking around killing time and there was a book on, but the book title was Everything Leads to Tuberculosis. So obviously I picked it up, had a read of the back and I was like, this is a bit of me now. And I look forward to, I didn't buy it in the end, it was about the back of like, we'll never get rid of tuberculosis and the history of tuberculosis. But I look forward to when Theodore is old enough that we can discuss.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  He is old enough. He absolutely, because you know Adam Kay, the the who who wrote um This Is Gonna Hurt? And he's a comedian as well, he's absolutely brilliant. And he basically, he writes, he writes some kids books that are really, really funny. But then he does these Tonys and on the Tonys, like usually I go into T's room and I take the Tony down. It's a box that plays stories.

• 10:45Speaker 01

  Thank you. I raised my, for the listener, I raised my hand there, which I do now to for her to explain herself. A Tony, I thought it was like an award, I thought, yeah, he's looking.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  Theatrical award, okay.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  He's a few and one of his like case Marvel medicines and like I usually go in because some of them are very childish and like there's a Peppa Pig one and I'll just take it off and put the Tony away when they fall asleep. I go in to get these and sometimes I stop and I'm standing there for ages listening to Adam Kay. He's talking about like, he's telling them about grave robbers. So like back in the day when people, people used to rob graves for medical science. So like, and they had to like try and like stop. It was so like, it was happening so often that they had to try and find ways. Honestly, I was standing there for 15 minutes. I was like, oh, g'day, come on.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  No one would donate their bodies because no one cared about science and they were so religious at the time that it was sacrosanct. They wouldn't do it. So the, the doctors and scientists would just hire people to go out and rob the bodies. Thank God. That's how you will one day be treated for your syphilis. If it wasn't for these people, like once you're dead, you're dead. After I listened to that podcast, um, Joe.

• 11:55Speaker 02

  Uh, please don't say you don't believe in the afterlife.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Joe, what was the podcast I listened to? What was it about?

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Says you weren't giving out about my context. What podcast did I listen to, Joe? Oh, hang on a second till I climb inside your brain.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  After I listened to the podcast Noble, which I have spoken about on here before and recommended on Insta, which was the story, true story podcast about a funeral home, which basically this guy inherited the funeral home from his father.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  Do you not remember this?

• 12:25Speaker 02

  I remember that.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  And then things got out of control. He didn't keep up with the business. He couldn't cope with this. Ultimately, I think he just didn't, he didn't want the business, but he didn't want to let his father down. And then it transpired that he hadn't been taking care of the bodies, the way you're supposed to. And it went to court and it was all about like the legalities of, you know, what is it if you don't treat a body well, kind of thing, like, you know, because they're already dead. So like, what are the legalities behind it? Where was, why am I talking about this? So, sorry, yeah, so to circle back around, after I listened to Noble, I was like, yeah, I don't think I care what they do with my body. Like, I don't think I'd, I think when you're gone, you're gone. The soul is gone.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  Now, now, I know somebody, though, who works within medicine and has worked on medical bodies, and I've seen pictures, and it's not what you think it's gonna be. Some of these bodies are like thirty, forty years old.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  They just keep pulling them back out.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 13:22Speaker 01

  Because no one will donate, and I want it on the record now. I'd like to be, I'd like to donate myself, all of myself.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Okay, well, we'll watch Joanne get shot out of the car.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  Honestly.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  And see how far it goes.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  I swear to God, and I know it's very undignified, some of the stuff they do, it's like proper, it's not the stuff you want, but then imagine, but imagine you're part of the cure for cataracts.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Listen, I'm happy, I'm happy to donate my organs and all that stuff.

• 13:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  I don't actually have a card, but I think if you don't have a card, you're just assumed that you will donate your organ. So I am gonna donate my organs, but I just, I want, I just wanna have a resting place.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  But you also have to die in a very specific way to be able to donate your organs. You have to be brain dead.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  And I plan to.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Okay. Anyway, stunning. So we've, Jo, you haven't suggested you're gonna donate anything?

• 14:13Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, no, that's, they can have the lot, I don't care. The whole bod, just do, do what you need. Fire it into space, whatever.

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Oh, God, I wouldn't like to be in space on my own. Oh, no, no.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  You're grand, Jo, you're, I'm not, I'm not being bad, but you're, that's not, that's not your future.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  So I'm gonna say this, I don't say, and I, I, look, I could be wrong, we don't have the inside scoop, we're just consuming the same shit on the internet as everyone else, but I, I feel very, very, I have a lot of sympathy for Katy Perry. I think Katy Perry has been put through the wringer of late between the tour show that didn't go well, everyone was slagging her off, between her ex, Russell Brand, who's now come out, admitted he rode a 16 year old, like blah, blah, blah, whatever, like whatever, whatever way that goes, we'll watch that play out. It's not a great connection. And now Ruby Rose has come out and said she was sexually, also she's broken up with your man Orlando Bloom. Now she is randomly going out with the fucking French, what was your

• 15:19Speaker 01

  man's, Macron?

• 15:20Speaker 02

  Justin Trudeau, not Macron.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Macron, French president, sorry. Justin Trudeau, Canadian prime minister, am I correct?

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:29Speaker 01

  Is he still, is he still acting prime minister or is he retired? Retired. Anyway, that's a, that's a wild setup. Who set that up? Anyway, and now she's been accused of sexual assault by your one Ruby Rose. Now, we believe all women, blah, blah, blah. But in the same breath, you have to unpack this shit. If someone goes large with an accusation online, you're like, this ruins people's lives. And the little bit that I've read around it, I'm like, mm, it sounds like they're all locked and acting the bollocks in a nightclub. That's what it sounds like to me. Ruby Rose has a history of kind of very fatalistic behaviour, I would say. But Vogue, you know, you know when I know what it's like, when

• 16:11Speaker 01

  there's an article, now more so you, my articles are like, thank God, touch wood, few and far between. Imagine articles going around, you're accused of sexual assault. That is a big fucking swing. That is a massive, massive swing.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  I feel like there is going to be a little turn for Katy Perry because I do feel like, did you see Hailey Bieber as well?

• 16:31Speaker 01

  The space thing, the fucking, the space thing didn't happen.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  I know, but I think, I think though, that like, even with Hailey Bieber, Hailey Bieber went through loads of shit. And then she's come out and she said, oh, I don't need your apologies. I've done the therapy. Thank you. But I think with Katy Perry, I'm not really sure. I know it's a terrible article, obviously, to go out about you and just something so insane, but like even with the Russell Brand stuff.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  It's kind of the worst. It's a murder, really.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  But I think with the Russell Brand stuff, I think that her association with him is less now because.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  He treated like such shit, but Russell Brand coming on and basically trying to say, well, I was a very young 30 year old sleeping with a 16 year old. So it was okay. It's like, hang on. Okay. So they're young and 16, but you're 30 and should know, just because you can sleep with a 16 year old, doesn't mean a 30 year old man, you should be sleeping with a 16 year olds.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  What I will say is there are so many men, there are so many 30 year olds who are riding 16 year olds. There are so many 30 year old men who want to ride 16 year olds. Like there's no point pretending he's like a once off. There's no point. It's like, it doesn't help anyone.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  And the fact that he has a following, the way he does, and people actually are like, oh, you're right. It's like, how do we live in this world that it's okay to be?

• 17:55Speaker 01

  He's gone through the Christianity pipeline now, which means he's in a safe space. You can go through the Christianity pipeline. I'm just saying, he is not, he is not an unusual version of a man.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  No, of course he isn't. Of course he isn't.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Allegedly, blah, blah, blah. The way Joe likes us to say all the time. Emails.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  Would you like an email? There you go. Okay. Right. I'm going to read petty.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Perfect.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Petty story. Yeah.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Back to pettiness. Yeah.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Petty. Yes. Hi. Love the pod. Thought I would let you know my latest petty move since I haven't heard any in a while. Please keep me in on.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Are we still, people, do people still email us, Joe? We must do a shout out.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  There, I mean, there are more than we could ever get through. Thank you very much.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  Really? Oh, thank God. That's great news. Yeah, that's great.

• 18:42Speaker 03

  Sorry that we don't get to all of them, but I do read all of them. And I should say actually as well, for those of you, and this does happen quite often, who send an email and then 12 hours later, you send another email saying, actually, please don't read this out because I've decided against it. I always see that email and don't worry, your email will never go in.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  No, we don't even, we don't even get to read it.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  No, we don't read that. No. And Joe, in fairness, Joe is, yeah, he's a, he's a safe guy. He's, he's a, he's a good guy. Yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Me and my ex broke up as, among many reasons, I saw him trying to meet up with someone he used to sleep with on field on a work trip. Apparently that was only a dick move if I don't trust him. When we lived together, he used to drop, so if it meant she didn't, he was like, oh, you don't trust me.

• 19:33Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Okay. We're gaslighting.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  When we.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  The gas is lit. Let's go.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  There's a fire. Okay. When we lived together, he used to drop his daily contact lenses on the floor, ugh, by the bed, leaving a mountain of crusty tiny bowls, which was inevitably spread around the house. And he never hoovered them up. That's disgusting. We agreed he would put them in a little gross box by the bed. Why he couldn't put them in a bin, I still don't understand. In a bid to be helpful as he was moving out, I collected some of his stuff into bags. In an instinctively petty move, I emptied the box of crusty used contact lenses into one of the bags of clothes for him to pick apart from his clothes for months to come. It's the small things, isn't it?

• 20:21Speaker 01

  Sorry, can I say, and this says more about me than this person, I thought that was going to a much darker place.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Were you used to people like sewing fish into curtains?

• 20:33Speaker 01

  I thought she was putting cyanide in the contact lenses or a toilet ducker and she was gonna blind them. It used to fish them out. Good enough for him.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  And he seems like a bit of a, he seems a bit grim that I don't even think he'll probably notice that they are on the clothes.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  I think you were very restrained and he sounded like a very kind person and he was absolutely gonna try and ride that woman. So you've done the right thing. Fair play.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  I also think that sometimes when you like people that you would have to like, living with somebody is really difficult. And like, I remember I used to be kind of dating this guy, I might have said it before, and he used to smoke roly's and he would just leave shit everywhere. It was just like everywhere, all over the place. And I was like, it's just the dirtiest habit to be going around and like leaving crusty contact lenses. I know, I couldn't live with someone like that.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  I've, yeah, I, I struggle to contribute here because I'm, I'm gross.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  You're not that, you're not that gross. You're not crusty. I don't know. Actually, maybe you are.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  I like, I like to do what I like to do. And that's why I find living with people difficult because when traditionally the men that I've lived with have been kind of more domestic than me. And then they give out to me and then I can't bear being given out to by them. And then I want to move out. And then we start, start fighting and it just goes around and around in circles.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  Well, can I be honest? When you used to live downstairs, never a problem with you downstairs. You were never an issue, not once. Once you close the bedroom door, when you answer, it disappears. Gone.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  Dora, just set fire to that wing.

• 22:19Speaker 02

  Don't bother, Dora. That place is gone. We had one of Spenny's friends staying and he stayed for a couple of weeks when we were away. And we were getting update pictures of how bad the entire apartment was looking like every single, it was like, it was like he had just, I didn't even know he owned that much stuff. It was so bad. So you were like a little.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  I was fine. I, I do think there's a switch that you, there's something, it's, it's, it's a chromosome. You either have it or you don't. And I, for me to look like I'm kind of low level organized or, or tidy takes serious work. It just does. And I just accept that about myself now. I just do. Yeah. But I think this woman was very restrained. He could have done a lot worse, worse with his contact lenses. And you know what? At least he's fucking half blind. Fuck him.

• 23:07Speaker 02

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• 23:12Speaker 04

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