Boys React: Elon's Troubles, Happiness & Money Study, TikTok Ban, And Power Slap League

Episode 429: In the Friday segment called The Boys React, Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP) and Sam Parr (@TheSamParr) give their two cents on a few relevant business stories. Check it out... SHAAN'S NEW DAILY NEWSLETTER --> shaanpuri.com ----- Links: * Power Slap League * Physical 100 * Do you love MFM and want to see Sam and Shaan's smiling faces? Subscribe to our Youtube channel. ------ Show Notes: (00:27) - Elon trouble (13:17) - Happiness & money study (19:30) - TikTok ban (21:45) - Best city to live in (23:30) - Power Slap League (26:35) - Physical 100 ----- Past guests on My First Million include Rob Dyrdek, Hasan Minhaj, Balaji Srinivasan, Jake Paul, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Gary Vee, Lance Armstrong, Sophia Amoruso, Ariel Helwani, Ramit Sethi, Stanley Druckenmiller, Peter Diamandis, Dharmesh Shah, Brian Halligan, Marc Lore, Jason Calacanis, Andrew Wilkinson, Julian Shapiro, Kat Cole, Codie Sanchez, Nader Al-Naji, Steph Smith, Trung Phan, Nick Huber, Anthony Pompliano, Ben Askren, Ramon Van Meer, Brianne Kimmel, Andrew Gazdecki, Scott Belsky, Moiz Ali, Dan Held, Elaine Zelby, Michael Saylor, Ryan Begelman, Jack Butcher, Reed Duchscher, Tai Lopez, Harley Finkelstein, Alexa von Tobel, Noah Kagan, Nick Bare, Greg Isenberg, James Altucher, Randy Hetrick and more. ----- Additional episodes you might enjoy: • #224 Rob Dyrdek - How Tracking Every Second of His Life Took Rob Drydek from 0 to $405M in Exits • #209 Gary Vaynerchuk - Why NFTS Are the Future • #178 Balaji Srinivasan - Balaji on How to Fix the Media, Cloud Cities & Crypto * #169 - How One Man Started 5, Billion Dollar Companies, Dan Gilbert's Empire, & Talking With Warren Buffett • ​​​​#218 - Why You Should Take a Think Week Like Bill Gates • Dave Portnoy vs The World, Extreme Body Monitoring, The Future of Apparel Retail, "How Much is Anthony Pompliano Worth?", and More • How Mr Beast Got 100M Views in Less Than 4 Days, The $25M Chrome Extension, and More

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• 0:00Shaan Puri?

  Anytime a rich person tells you that money doesn't make you happy, just ask them for their money then. Like, cool, cool, cool. I guess it's useless, right? Can I just give me a bunch of it then, right?

• 0:19Ben?

  Fellas, welcome to the Friday episode, The Boys React. We're going to go through some news stories. Let's start with the thing that everyone is talking about, everyone is always talking about, which is Elon. Elon has gotten himself in trouble a couple of times this week. First, he tried selling some house plants, or office plants, I should say, to his employees to raise money.

• 0:37Sam Parr?

  Wait, really?

• 0:38Ben?

  And then also ridiculed and sort of kind of fired an employee who is disabled. Your thoughts on the endless drama of Elon?

• 0:49Sam Parr?

  Cringe. What do you think?

• 0:50Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, Elon is the cringe master. He has to make everything about him. Like, it's just me, me, me. He is now known as Elon Musk in my house. This guy, this guy's too much. The crazy thing, Sam, did you watch this all go down with the guy that was like, hey, am I fired? I think we should, we should explain this.

• 1:11Sam Parr?

  Yeah, so do a recap. I didn't understand all that at first. I had to like click through.

• 1:15Shaan Puri?

  So guy goes on Twitter, who's got, I never heard of this guy, but he's got like 150,000 followers. And he says, hey, nine days ago, I lost access to my work computer. Just can't, I can't access Twitter anymore. I work at Twitter, I can't access my work, my work computer doesn't log in anymore. It doesn't work. Can't get into my email, can't do anything. I'm not sure if I'm fired. Nobody told me I'm fired, but I just can't get into my email or my computer. I've emailed them. I've waited nine days. I've got no reply from HR, from, you know, from anybody. So I guess, hey, at Elon Musk, am I fired? And so, you know, he tweets that out.

• 1:51Sam Parr?

  Was he getting paid still?

• 1:53Shaan Puri?

  I don't, I don't know. I don't think so, because, but it was, whatever, it was only nine days. So maybe he was, he hadn't got it, got in between yet. So he tweets that out, and he goes, maybe if this gets enough retweets, then, you know, then I'll get a response. So it gets retweeted a bunch of like, because people, you know, there's a whole group of people that, you know, love to hate Elon, myself included. And so people are like, this is another example of, you know, how poorly Twitter's being run right now. Like, why, why would you, if you're going to fire somebody, tell them they're fired. That's, you know, common decency, right? Like, I feel like Elon's got this flow chart. Where it's like, I'm firing this person. Should I tell them? It's like, yes. And it's like, no, no, I'm gonna go with no. Okay, what happens after no?

• 2:37Shaan Puri?

  Like, should I just, should I, you know, you know, meet with them in person? No, just cut off their computer access.

• 2:44Sam Parr?

  Dude, he's like Irish good buying their jobs. Basically, he's just walking out without saying goodbye.

• 2:50Shaan Puri?

  Exactly. And so anyways, this thing gets, um, this thing goes viral. So basically Elon then, you know, again, he sees all, he sees this thing going viral. So instead of, um, instead of, uh, instead of actually just, yeah, you are fired or confirmed. Yes, you, you were, you were fired. He instead says, um, what have you been working on? Like, what have you accomplished? Is the, uh, so then he goes, well, if I, you know, if I say what I'm working on, I think I'd be breaking my NDA. Do I have permission to break my NDA and tell you what, like, can I say publicly here what I work on? And Elon replies, yes, go ahead. So.

• 3:31Sam Parr?

  Dude, what a pathetic start to the story. That's already pathetic.

• 3:35Shaan Puri?

  He goes, all right, well, the guy goes, well, I was, you know, leveling up the design of this. I was working on this. And, um, you know, I was helping save money on this contract or whatever. And, um, and he goes, Elon replies, level up the design from what to what? You know, pictures or it didn't happen. And like, you know, dipshit, you cut off his computer access. How is he supposed to have screenshots of us work? If you took away his computer, he's not, he's not even able to do it. And, um, and then he's like mocking him basically. He's just replying with like the crying laughing emoji. He's replying trolling him with like a clip from Office Space. And now here's where Elon went wrong. So Elon's not dumb. But he's a dumbass. And there's a big difference between dumb and a dumbass.

• 4:18Shaan Puri?

  Dumb is you're just not smart. Dumbass is you're smart, but you do dumb things. And that's what Elon does here. So he basically picks on a guy that it comes out. So this guy sold his company to Twitter. And.

• 4:32Shaan Puri?

  The guy, so Elon comes out, here's what he says about the guy. He goes, he goes, somebody was like, dude, this is the, this guy Alex Cohen has this great tweet. He goes, I'm not gonna lie, this is the most entertaining exit interview ever. He was watching this whole thing go down in public. And then the guy, Elon says, the reality is, this is a guy that, who was independently wealthy, did no actual work, and claimed as an excuse that he has a disability preventing him from typing. Yet here he is tweeting out, tweeting up a storm.

• 5:00Sam Parr?

  Wait, and so, and so, the disability thing, Elon said that first?

• 5:03Shaan Puri?

  He goes, he claimed as his excuse that he has a disability preventing him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm. I can't say I have a lot of respect for that.

• 5:13Sam Parr?

  What a douche. Why, how could he reveal that?

• 5:16Shaan Puri?

  Here's the other side of the story. This guy has, like, this guy's in a wheelchair. He's had like

• 5:22Sam Parr?

  Muscular dystrophy.

• 5:23Shaan Puri?

  Muscular dystrophy for 25 years. And so he goes, so this guy came back with just kind of some fire. So he goes,

• 5:29Sam Parr?

  Thunderclap, I think you called it.

• 5:32Shaan Puri?

  Solo thunderclap, basically. So he goes back, he goes, glad to see you're taking such an interest in my health. I assume what you're talking about when you are sharing my private health information online is the fact that I've had muscular dystrophy for 25 years. And I guess I'll go ahead and tell the story now. So, you know, I lost, I lost the ability to use my legs 20 years ago. I've been in a wheelchair. Unfortunately, it's been spreading and I've, my, my arms have been getting weaker over time. In fact, that's why I sold my company. Remember, you said I was independently wealthy? I guess what you mean by that is I built a successful company and sold it, unlike, you know, somebody else who might have inherited, inherited an emerald mine, which is, you know, how Elon's dad owned an emerald mine.

• 6:14Sam Parr?

  Which is bullshit. Which, that's a bullshit thing.

• 6:17Shaan Puri?

  But good.

• 6:17Sam Parr?

  People say that, but whatever.

• 6:18Shaan Puri?

  A good still.

• 6:19Sam Parr?

  We'll use it.

• 6:19Shaan Puri?

  In this case, it's good. And so he goes, I guess that's what you mean by independently wealthy and, you know, so here's what, here's the story. This guy's got muscular dystrophy. He, he's losing feeling and our strength in his arms is becoming very painful to type. He decides, okay, I'm gonna sell my company. And instead of taking a lump sum payment, he chose to get paid out through like a salary instead of an upfront money, which is like, dude, who would do that? Why? Because he wanted to pay more taxes in Iceland where he's from. Or I think it's Iceland. Maybe, yeah, I think it's Iceland.

• 6:51Sam Parr?

  Wait, really?

• 6:52Shaan Puri?

  He wanted to pay more taxes. Why did he want to pay more taxes? Cause he felt like he's, as a disabled person, he had benefited a lot from like the social welfare system there and was like, I want to contribute as much as I can to that. Which honestly, sounds like too good to be true. Like, that's so different than me. I almost can't fathom that. I'm almost like, why don't you just take the money and donate it instead of paying in taxes? I don't understand that. But e- e- either way, uh, this guy, so built a company, had a hundred employees working for him. It was profitable. He decides to sell it. Um, you know, he, he's, his body's basically been giving out on them. He's like, you know, financially, it wasn't the best decision. Uh, my company was making a lot of money. Twitter's offer was lower than other companies, but I made a bet on Twitter. It was growing at the time. Um, and he goes, by the way,

• 7:36Shaan Puri?

  he goes, anyways, I digress. Are you still reading? Or is your bathroom break over? Okay. What was I saying? And he goes, um, eh, uh, yes. Uh, so you bought the company, told employees you weren't firing them, firing 75% of them, and then you did. I was not in the first batch or the second batch or the third batch of layoffs. I don't know which batch were on now, but I, you know, uh, whatever. You know, I think I got, I think I'm fired now. I'm not sure. I just want to make sure I get paid out because in his contract, he had it where, okay, I'll take the money as a yearly salary rather than an upfront payment. But if you ever fire me, then you have to pay out the rest. Right? So I'm guaranteed this money. I'll take it, you know, slower rather than faster. But, you know, that, that's fine. And so anyways, this guy, this guy not only, he, he, not only-

• 8:18Sam Parr?

  And he says how he's typing.

• 8:19Shaan Puri?

  What's that?

• 8:20Sam Parr?

  He also mentioned how he was typing.

• 8:22Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. I think he was just like, yeah, I can't do like sustained thing, but like I can type with like one finger on my phone and, uh, blah, blah, blah. And so anyways, he, he explains this. He goes, um, like this guy was literally named person of the year in Iceland. This guy, like his, his side hustle is he's building wheelchair ramps throughout Iceland so that other disabled people could do. Like he's building hundreds of these wheelchair ramps. Like that's who you're, that's who you're picking on here. That's who, that's who you chose to, to fight with. I saw this great quote. He goes, Elon, man, this guy's a dumbass. He fucked with the wheelchair Mr. Rogers. And he goes, he goes, what is this guy thinking? Uh, you know, like, and so this guy, you know, I read this thread and I was literally like-

• 9:07Shaan Puri?

  911, I'd like to report a murder, right? Like, you know, it was just like the ultimate clapback. And then Elon tries to backtrack and he basically goes, um, some random dude tweets in the thread goes, I know Hallie and this is, you know, you're saying that he's a liar and was just trying to do no work and get paid out. And that's not who this guy is. Random guy tweets and then Elon tweets back, this is the most bullshit of all the bullshit. He goes, based on that comment, I decided to call Hallie rather than, um, rather than just tweet to each other. And, um, he goes, I decided to call Hallie. Uh, uh, and he goes, uh, what did he say? He goes, and you know, have a, have a video chat with him.

• 9:52Shaan Puri?

  Turns out, you know, there was a misunderstanding. The information I was given was either incorrect or correct, but not important.

• 9:58Sam Parr?

  That's that white flag, bro. You, you lost.

• 10:00Shaan Puri?

  You know, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh, we've discussed him, you know, staying with the company. And, you know, this is the ultimate backtrack. It's like, first of all, you, you're, you want him to stay with the company because you have to pay him out if you fire him. So that's like, you know, the first thing. Second thing, you basically fucked up and stepped in it and this guy could sue you for like, you know, a whole bunch of money for like, basically, you know, discriminating against a disabled person as well as disclosing his private health information, as well as probably three or four other, you know, issues that there were, there were, you know, labor laws that were broken in this process. But it's like, dude, you decided to have a video chat, not when the guy said he's, you know, your employee said he hasn't heard from you, not when he, you know, asked for an explanation.

• 10:43Shaan Puri?

  Um, but when a random guy on Twitter said, no, Hallie's a good guy. You decided there to stop in your tracks and do a video call with him? Bullshit. Like this, all this whole thing is bullshit and Elon continues to be, you know, king, the king of bullshit.

• 10:57Sam Parr?

  Have you heard the, uh, the song, damn, it feels good to be a gangster?

• 11:02Shaan Puri?

  Sure have.

• 11:02Sam Parr?

  That song? There's a line, there's a line in it where I can't say the real line, but it basically says, "Real gangsters don't flex nuts because real gangsters know they got them." And right now Elon's, he is pretty gangster. I mean, he's the man. He ain't acting like it. He's flexing nuts hard and he shouldn't be flexing as hard as he is. And I get the personality type where some people are like, dude, he's just saying whatever he wants. The same thing with Trump where he's like, he's just saying what he's

• 11:30Shaan Puri?

  Says it like it is.

• 11:31Sam Parr?

  Says it like it is. And I actually dislike that. I like that like to an extent, but I'm like, there's, but just because you say it like it is, like, well, he's just doing what he wants. Yeah, but he just, you just punched someone. Like hitting people isn't good. Do you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I want to do what I want. Does that mean I'm going to like go take a dump in the corner of the room? Like, you know, there's like, let's be polite to one another also if possible.

• 11:55Shaan Puri?

  Right.

• 11:55Sam Parr?

  We don't, we're not going to be needlessly, needlessly rude to one another. And that's kind of how I feel he acts right now. And that's not cool.

• 12:01Shaan Puri?

  There's two other, two other parts of this news story. One, it's going around that this guy's payout was a hundred million dollars, which makes no sense. Anybody who's in business is like, well, that number makes no sense. There's no way he's getting paid nine million dollars a year of salary. There's no way that they bought his agency for a hundred million dollars. It's not how much you would aqua hire an agency for. It's probably more like 10. But it all, and I went, I found it. It just started with some random guy who goes, "Oh man, Elon backtracking now because he realized that how he has a hundred million dollar payout." And like five tweets in, somebody's like, "Where'd you read the hundred million? I've never saw that." He goes, "I'm just estimating like, you know, aqua hires are a million dollars ahead. They had a hundred employees. So, you know, a hundred million dollars." And now that's just like in a bunch of places. It's like, that's how, that's how bad like information spreads.

• 12:46Sam Parr?

  How fake news starts.

• 12:47Shaan Puri?

  Second thing is Elon owned himself when he goes, the end of his thing, he goes, "Better to talk, uh, better to communicate through talking, uh, instead of communicating on Twitter." It's like, just literally shitting on his own platform, by the way. So self owning, you know, all around. So that I thought that was interesting. And then Ben said this other thing about the house, the office plant thing. What do you make of this? This makes no sense.

• 13:12Sam Parr?

  What happened? I didn't, dude, I muted Elon. I love what Elon's doing, man. But I like, I even think the Twitter thing's interesting, but fuck, it's hard to be on his team. And so I had to mute him.

• 13:23Shaan Puri?

  He, so he's been selling like office furniture and memorabilia from the office, like just liquidating to like get more cash.

• 13:30Sam Parr?

  I tried buying, they had a Twitter logo. I tried buying it, but it got up too high.

• 13:34Shaan Puri?

  And apparently like there was like plants in the office that he tried selling to an engineer, like one of the employees or something like that. It's like, I mean, I don't know, either this guy's a marketing genius. He's just trying to get PR, like trying to like, it's the thing where it's Amazon was like, we use doors as desks to save money.

• 13:50Sam Parr?

  Which is a bullshit.

• 13:51Shaan Puri?

  Either one of those just like stories that sounds like, man, he's really turning over every rock to save money from this, this bleeding company.

• 13:57Sam Parr?

  By the way, I tried doing that. An Ikea desk is significantly cheaper than a door from Home Depot.

• 14:02Shaan Puri?

  Exactly.

• 14:03Sam Parr?

  I've tried doing this. A desk is way cheaper.

• 14:05Shaan Puri?

  Doors are like ridges and stuff. You can't even like write on them. So, so I don't know what to make of this story, but it just sounds like, I mean, it just makes no sense. Either he's lost his mind or there's a masterful PR thing that's like 9,000 IQ and I can't understand it. Or someone's just making things up. I don't understand.

• 14:23Sam Parr?

  Uh, maybe, maybe all. I think all of those things could be true.

• 14:27Shaan Puri?

  An exaggeration about a weird thing he said, because he's lost his mind and makes for good PR. Gotcha.

• 14:34Sam Parr?

  And he's a genius. It could be all those things, you know, he could be, he's, he's not dumb, but he's a dumbass. That's a, that's a great line. I saw people calling him Elmo, Elmo Musk, and I thought that was pretty funny. But no, he's, he's fucking up. Do we want to do one more?

• 14:47Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, Ben, what else you got?

• 14:48Ben?

  All right, let's go with, with money and happiness, guys. So, uh, there was a 2010 paper that said that basically above $70,000, more money does not make you more hap, does not make you more happy. Turns out, more money, less problems, because a new study says that is completely untrue. It starts to flatten a little bit as it goes up, but what do you guys think of this?

• 15:08Sam Parr?

  I, so here, I, I'm pulling this up. So here's what it says, Sean. It says that, um, So if you are in the happiest of the unhappiest 20% does plateau after reaching $100,000. But after that, if you're not in that group, more money does mean more happiness. And, uh, and it basically it goes all the way up. They studied it all the way up to $500,000. And they said, after that, we, we really didn't study it much, but up to $500,000, people do get happier. But that said, the researchers found that the overall emotional effect of more money on a person is small compared to other circumstances. It's even compared to a weekend approximately a fourfold difference in income.

• 15:52Sam Parr?

  So four times your income is equal to the effect of a weekend, which is kind of funny.

• 15:57Shaan Puri?

  Wow.

• 15:58Sam Parr?

  But that said, more money makes you happy. So, and this is all like, there's this like 2010 study that where it said $70,000. From the beginning, I thought that was the most bullshit study. I've done this part so many times. That's nonsense. That is absolutely not true. $70,000, my sister, when she was like younger, lived in New York for $70,000. You're basically below the poverty line. That is not happy. So 70,000, not a chance. I used to say, I thought it was like 250. I actually believe it could be 500 or even more, but you get happier.

• 16:29Shaan Puri?

  This is one of those things like, um, you know, that might be true. I, when I heard this study, I was like, that might be true. I'm gonna go ahead and test for myself.

• 16:41Shaan Puri?

  Like, I don't know if the earth is flat around. I don't really have the ability to go out there and check it out. I don't know, you know, if, uh, if sulfur gas is poisonous, but I figure, yeah, no need to test that. This is one of those scientific claims that I had just decided a long time ago. I'm gonna go ahead and check. I'm gonna go ahead and do my own research on this one. And, uh, and go ahead, try to go get, go get a bunch of money and see how it feels. And, uh, you know what? I'm glad I did because the study was bullshit.

• 17:08Sam Parr?

  Dude, I got an MRI yesterday and the lady at the front desk was like, all right, that's $750. And she was like, didn't say that. She just handed me that. She goes, there's a bill today. And she showed it to me. She thought that I was gonna like freak out and I was like, all right, you take Apple Pay? And I just scanned my card or whatever. And I remember thinking like,

• 17:23Shaan Puri?

  You're like, where do I tip?

• 17:24Sam Parr?

  I am. Yeah.

• 17:27Sam Parr?

  I remember thinking, I am so happy I'm in a spot. I used to not be able to afford that at all. And I'm so happy I'm in a spot. I call that, you know what I call that? I call that braces money. I'm just gonna be able to swipe my card and get my kid braces and not think twice about it. When I was younger, my parents bought me braces and they told me that it was two grand that they had to pay on a credit card. And at the time, they had like $6,000. And I remember thinking like, god damn, that sucks. Like, that's not, I would be a lot happier if I had $9 million in the bank as opposed to $9,000 or whatever you guys had.

• 17:58Shaan Puri?

  Anytime a rich person tells you that money doesn't make you happy, just ask them for their money then. Like, cool, cool, cool. I guess it's useless, right? Can I, just give me a bunch of it then? Right? Like, you know?

• 18:09Sam Parr?

  Yeah, dude, and

• 18:11Shaan Puri?

  Let's, let's look at the actions versus the words in a lot of these cases, right?

• 18:15Sam Parr?

  I always thought the study was bullshit also because I, I wonder how much money the people making the study make. I was always like, yeah, that's what they think. Sure, they, they think that. Because I want to know how much bias goes into a study when the

• 18:30Shaan Puri?

  It's always the researcher's salary. They're at the pinnacle of happiness.

• 18:35Sam Parr?

  Yeah. Or they're like, making it only 50 and they're like, hey, C boss, 70,000.

• 18:42Sam Parr?

  But I've always wondered what like the biases are because, like, I don't know.

• 18:48Shaan Puri?

  I haven't even wondered. I'm like, this is obvious. This is obviously not true. And, you know, if I get to the finish line and I realize, hey, you know, 5 million and 10 million felt the same? Well, shame on me for going the extra mile.

• 19:03Sam Parr?

  You know another thing? Have you ever tried to read a study?

• 19:05Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, dude. Studies are crazy. Yeah.

• 19:09Sam Parr?

  It's hard. I have no idea. And then I'll like, I follow all these like smart, like a Huberman or like the, these other guys who like break down studies. And I'm like, and they'll say like, well, this study is actually bullshit for this reason. And I'm like, I guess I'll believe you, but I don't like, I can't read this. And they'll like, say like, studies that I'm like, well, it said the word study in it. It must be true. And they're like, no, no, no, it's actually way off for this reason. And like their sample size was like eight people, their college students.

• 19:32Shaan Puri?

  Or, you know, a bunch of, bunch of different things like that.

• 19:35Sam Parr?

  Dude, I don't know how to read any of that.

• 19:36Shaan Puri?

  Or there's a chart and it's like the error bars are huge. It's like, yeah, it's that plus or minus, you know, it's 70,000 plus or minus 500,000. It's like, whoa, okay, hold on, what's going on here? Right? So, so, yeah, I think science is, uh, is used as a like, uh, shield for like, you can't argue.

• 19:52Sam Parr?

  Sometimes.

• 19:53Shaan Puri?

  Um, in many cases, and there's good science and there's bad science and there's weak science and there's strong science and there's, you know, and then there's physics where it's like, you know, empirically true. Um, and so.

• 20:04Sam Parr?

  But the only thing that I know is three things. There's good science, there's bad science, and I don't know the difference between the two. That's like the only.

• 20:10Shaan Puri?

  That's the T-shirt right there. Nice.

• 20:13Sam Parr?

  That's like the only truth that I know, which is like, it exists. I'm just.

• 20:17Shaan Puri?

  That was a little too soon.

• 20:19Sam Parr?

  Big old brain.

• 20:22Shaan Puri?

  Got that big brain on today. All right, what else we got?

• 20:23Sam Parr?

  Got that big brain.

• 20:26Ben?

  All right, here we go. Uh, let's go TikTok. Uh, Biden administration in conjunction with Congress, they're evaluating a new law that would, um, make it possible for companies to be banned that pose a national security risk. People think this means that they're going to ban TikTok. What do you guys think? Should they ban TikTok?

• 20:41Sam Parr?

  I don't know anything about that.

• 20:43Shaan Puri?

  Wow. Is this why they pay you the big bucks?

• 20:47Sam Parr?

  Dude, like, people talk about, I don't, I don't know anything about China. I don't know what they're doing.

• 20:52Shaan Puri?

  That's true.

• 20:54Sam Parr?

  Do you?

• 20:55Shaan Puri?

  No, honestly, dude, I mean, how would I, how would I really know? Um, the Biden, so I think that being able to ban something, if it's a national security risk, yeah, I think that's, that's fine. That sounds like appropriate. Uh, I also, by using TikTok a ton, I could totally see how I wouldn't want this in the hands of my enemy. It's like, oh, the ability to like, take in all of my data, my camera roll, turn my microphone, my camera on, as well as feed me, spoon feed me any amount of, any like, feed of information based on, you know, a mysterious algorithm that, that can surface good stuff, bad stuff, weird stuff, misinformation, whatever. Like, that's a pretty powerful weapon, right? So, so I definitely see the merit in that. Now, is TikTok actually a threat? I, I don't.

• 21:40Ben?

  All right, what's the next one?

• 21:45Ben?

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• 21:59Ben?

  All right, next one. Let's go with favorite cities. A new poll from a real estate advice website reveals where Americans would move if money was no object. New York, Austin's in there, that makes sense. Also on the list though, Las Vegas and at number nine, Baltimore.

• 22:12Sam Parr?

  Dude, I'm from St. Louis. I'm from the city of St. Louis. A lot of people don't know this, but if you look at what the highest murder rate per 100,000 people and it's been St. Louis, like either it's usually number one, sometimes number two. For that past 10 years, there's like 500 murders a year. St. Louis and Baltimore, very similar. That sucks. It sucks. I don't want to move there. Not at all. I don't understand that. That's weird to me.

• 22:34Shaan Puri?

  Once I worked in the media business, I realized that polls, rankings, lists, all bullshit, just things to get, generate clicks, links, controversy. You know, if I was going to make a list and I made a list that was like, you just nod and you say, yeah, that makes sense. You're not going to share that. You're not going to talk about that. I throw Baltimore as the, this fourth most desired city to live in or whatever. Like put New York, now I get to just make them outraged. Guess what? I'm going to get a lot more clicks, a lot more discussion, a lot more controversy and a lot more backlinks for, for my SEO. You know, so, so once you know their incentives, you'll know why these lists are often outrageous. Either they're just paid to put like, you know, things on the top or they're trying to do things that will generate a bunch of shares.

• 23:15Sam Parr?

  Do you, uh, do you know what state Baltimore's in?

• 23:18Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, Baltimore is in Maryland.

• 23:21Sam Parr?

  All right, nice. I didn't think you'd get that. If you Google, if you Google Baltimore.

• 23:25Shaan Puri?

  To let my brain think. Of course I know that Baltimore.

• 23:29Sam Parr?

  Dude, if you Google Baltimore and look at the images, very, very unoppressive. And not, not impressive at all. I'm sorry, Baltimore, that skyline, not interesting one bit.

• 23:44Sam Parr?

  The tourist association needs to work on their SEO. Not so good.

• 23:49Shaan Puri?

  What else you got, Ben?

• 23:50Sam Parr?

  Can we wrap this up at the slap fighting one?

• 23:52Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, do the story, Sam.

• 23:55Sam Parr?

  So Dana White is putting muscle behind UFC, sorry, Dana White and the UFC is putting muscle behind power slap league. So if you guys have not seen this, it's basically two guys, they're typically like huge fat guys, standing at a table, smacking each other. I think they get three times a smack when they get three times a smack each other. I don't know the rules, but it seems like someone gets knocked out every slap.

• 24:18Shaan Puri?

  Every fight, yeah.

• 24:19Sam Parr?

  Right? What are the rules? Is it like the first one knocked out loses?

• 24:23Shaan Puri?

  It's typically three to five rounds. They take turns hitting each other in the face with an open hand and the other person has to just stand there and take it. They get 60 seconds to recover and then they can earn up to 10 points based on the effectiveness of the slap and the defender's reaction. That's good. So you know, I like things where you get rewarded for pretending like it didn't hurt. Cause that's a skill that I honed as a little sibling for many, many years.

• 24:49Sam Parr?

  Dude, this is the stupidest thing on earth. I don't know. So look, am I, I'm not a woke guy. I consider myself right of center. Maybe I'm getting more woke as I get older. I'm hating on Elon and also this slap thing is the stupidest thing on earth and I'm not gonna give it any of my, I'm not gonna give it any of my eyeballs. I'd prefer the two people in their underwear fighting to the death in front of a million people like UFC, but the slap thing, not a fan.

• 25:14Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, like to me, knockouts are like dip. It's like, you know, I like chips and dip, but if you take the chips away and it's just dip, now I feel a little dirty. That's how I feel about this. I'm cool watching a fight where somebody gets knocked out because there's skill and there's defense and then there's strategy when it's literally you have to stand still and get hit as hard as you can by somebody else. Now you, I'm just, you know, now I'm just eating barbecue sauce and I don't really.

• 25:38Sam Parr?

  Which is kind of, which is kind of ridiculous that it's considered okay that we can use a, we can use a, you know, chip as a spoon and with cheese, but when you just use a spoon as a spoon for that cheese, it's, we consider two different things. That is a little weird, isn't it?

• 25:51Shaan Puri?

  The big questions in life that I might spend a whole lifetime trying to wonder why we are the way we are in this way. Now, let me tell you something.

• 25:57Sam Parr?

  That's a great example.

• 25:58Shaan Puri?

  Michael Vick like got booted out of the NFL and like went to jail for a dog fighting ring. Colin Kaepernick can't get a job because he took a knee during the National Anthem to.

• 26:10Sam Parr?

  Those two are not even remotely the same thing, by the way.

• 26:12Shaan Puri?

  I'm just saying, people have got a lot more punished for a lot less than this. How is Dana White not like, how is he not canceled for doing this? How is this legitimate thing that they're allowed to do?

• 26:25Shaan Puri?

  Kind of insane to me that like, you could, you could get away with doing this and not others. I, I guess it's because they're consenting adults and that's, that's the line. I guess anything above that line works. I don't know. That sounds a little, little iffy to me, but uh.

• 26:41Sam Parr?

  Yeah, I think this is so stupid. I'm not going to give it, I try not to give it my attention. I can't stand it. I think it's really dumb. And they're all like.

• 26:46Shaan Puri?

  I'm not gonna lie, I watched the trailer. I was heavily entertained by it. So, you know, just from the trailer.

• 26:50Sam Parr?

  It's kind of like, there was this subreddit called Watch People Die and it was like videos of people killing themselves and it was huge. And people were obsessed with it and then they deleted it. And I remember thinking, that's a good idea to delete that. And yet, it was really hard not to go to that subreddit. It's like, it's, it was impossible. Like when you see it, when I would see it come up, I'm like, oh my God, this is horrible. I cannot watch this. And I would have to, I had to stop myself from like clicking some of that stuff.

• 27:17Shaan Puri?

  Let's finish with a little show recommendation. Have you watched Physical 100 on Netflix?

• 27:21Sam Parr?

  You keep telling me to watch it. No.

• 27:23Shaan Puri?

  Oh my God. Everybody needs to go watch this show. And I'm going to warn you, it's a weird show. If you had just described it to me, I would not have watched it.

• 27:29Sam Parr?

  It's just that Korean Netflix thing in real life, right?

• 27:33Shaan Puri?

  It's Squid Games in real life. Yeah, kind of. So basically, here's, here's why it's amazing. So the premise of the show is they got a hundred athletes of different types. So bodybuilders, MMA guys, boxers, women, men, small, large, gymnasts, ice climbers, luge, people from the Olympics, whatever, everything, wrestlers. And they put them all together and they walk in and it's basically like, we're going to see who is the body of athletic competitions. Like who is the overall, what is the best body? What is the perfect body? Is it this guy or is it this girl or is it this guy? And, and so. And like the very first like, you know, competition they have is basically there's a ball in the middle of a mud pit.

• 28:14Shaan Puri?

  It's like whoever has this ball at the end of three minutes wins and it'll be guy versus girl. It'll be giant bodybuilder versus tiny. There's no weight class and no nothing. And they go there, but they're, but the best part is it doesn't have this American tackiness like slap fighting or ranch. Like Koreans don't eat that shit. They don't do that stuff. All these people, here's three reasons why it's amazing. Number one, they got legit the best athletes. So they literally got like the guy from the world's strongest man. They're Olympians, gold medalists, like their most famous MMA fighters. Like they got their most famous athletes to go do this reality show. It's like if LeBron was competing against Patrick Mahomes versus competing against Serena Williams. But like they actually, and they, not only did they show up, they actually gave a shit. Like they were like, I really want to win this.

• 28:59Shaan Puri?

  And so they weren't just there for like a reality drama. That's the first thing. Second thing, they play with honor. So it'd be like you, the winner of the first round gets to pick who their opponent's going to be in the second round. It's like, oh, well, you know, an American would just be like, oh, I could beat this person. So I'm going to choose the weakest one and I'm going to do that. And then what they would do is they would go to whoever they felt was the strongest that would be the most honorable to compete against. And they'd be like, it would be by honor to compete against you. And the whole thing's done with subtitles. Sorry, I'm sorry, dubbed. So it's like, it's all in Korean, but then you're listening on a dubbed thing, which is hilarious. Cause there's even some guys that speak English, they dubbed them also in more English. It's hilarious. So, so they, that's how the show works and they just eliminate people until they get to the very end, the final winner of the physical 100. And so you, this is like, you will love the show.

• 29:44Shaan Puri?

  Once you get in, you get two episodes deep, you're going to love the characters.

• 29:48Sam Parr?

  Which, which body type is best?

• 29:49Shaan Puri?

  Well, I don't want to give it away. I mean, this is, this is the show, right? So like this, this is a giant spoiler. But you know, you gotta have it all. You gotta have attributes. You gotta have the speed. You gotta have the strength. You gotta have the endurance. You gotta have the, the dexterity. You gotta have the, the agility. You gotta have it all because they test you in all these different ways.

• 30:07Sam Parr?

  How would I do?

• 30:08Shaan Puri?

  The show is amazing. You gotta watch this thing, physical 100.

• 30:10Sam Parr?

  How would I do?

• 30:11Shaan Puri?

  Oh, here's the other thing that's great about it. They don't really edit it. So like in an American show, they'll be like, The start of the competition, then there's like montage. And then it's like the big fight, they'll spend five minutes on the big argument. The ending, whereas with this, it's like these contestants have one hour to pull this like 10,000 ton ship as a team to from one side of this room to the other. Go and then just show the whole thing in its entirety. It's even a little bit boring sometimes, but it's kind of like watching National Geographic where you just get really into it. Like Planet Earth, where you're like, ooh, is the lizard gonna get the ant? I gotta watch like, and it's gonna just hap- I'm gonna watch the whole thing play out. You know, with no, no jump cuts.

• 30:52Shaan Puri?

  And it's such a refreshing change from like Tik Tok and like these other things that are like just such surface level stuff.

• 30:58Sam Parr?

  I'm looking at the winner. Uh, we're not, we're not that different, are we?

• 31:04Shaan Puri?

  Well, don't get it away. You'd be surprised why this person won. It's, it's pretty crazy. So, so anyways, yeah, you gotta watch the show. It's kind of amazing.

• 31:12Sam Parr?

  All right, that's it. That's the pod.