MrBeast: 'I Obsess Every Second of Every Day Until I Have a Mental Breakdown' - With Hasan Minhaj

Episode 352: Sam Parr (@TheSamParr) and Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP) sit down with YouTube sensation MrBeast, and award-winning comedian Hasan Minhaj to talk about obsession, how to win, finding your creativity, measuring success, how to run a company... and more. ----- Links: * MrBeast * Hasan Minhaj * Do you love MFM and want to see Sam and Shaan's smiling faces? Subscribe to our Youtube channel. * Want more insights like MFM? Check out Shaan's newsletter. ----- Show Notes: (02:45) - What Hassan and MrBeast think of each other (03:25) - How do you measure success? (12:15) - How do you run your company? (19:20) - Doing good while getting attention (22:25) - Fitting in vs standing out (25:55) - What are you trying to figure out? ----- Past guests on My First Million include Rob Dyrdek, Hasan Minhaj, Balaji Srinivasan, Jake Paul, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Gary Vee, Lance Armstrong, Sophia Amoruso, Ariel Helwani, Ramit Sethi, Stanley Druckenmiller, Peter Diamandis, Dharmesh Shah, Brian Halligan, Marc Lore, Jason Calacanis, Andrew Wilkinson, Julian Shapiro, Kat Cole, Codie Sanchez, Nader Al-Naji, Steph Smith, Trung Phan, Nick Huber, Anthony Pompliano, Ben Askren, Ramon Van Meer, Brianne Kimmel, Andrew Gazdecki, Scott Belsky, Moiz Ali, Dan Held, Elaine Zelby, Michael Saylor, Ryan Begelman, Jack Butcher, Reed Duchscher, Tai Lopez, Harley Finkelstein, Alexa von Tobel, Noah Kagan, Nick Bare, Greg Isenberg, James Altucher, Randy Hetrick and more. ----- Additional episodes you might enjoy: • #224 Rob Dyrdek - How Tracking Every Second of His Life Took Rob Drydek from 0 to $405M in Exits • #209 Gary Vaynerchuk - Why NFTS Are the Future • #178 Balaji Srinivasan - Balaji on How to Fix the Media, Cloud Cities & Crypto * #169 - How One Man Started 5, Billion Dollar Companies, Dan Gilbert's Empire, & Talking With Warren Buffett • ​​​​#218 - Why You Should Take a Think Week Like Bill Gates • Dave Portnoy vs The World, Extreme Body Monitoring, The Future of Apparel Retail, "How Much is Anthony Pompliano Worth?", and More • How Mr Beast Got 100M Views in Less Than 4 Days, The $25M Chrome Extension, and More

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  The way I like to work is like, I like to go basically wake up, obsess over something, go to bed, wake up, obsess, go to bed, like every second of the day until I just have a mental breakdown, I burn out and then I like take a day off or maybe a day and a half off. And I like to go right back to it. So I don't like work certain days. I just go as hard as I can, every ounce of my entire body until I just crash.

• 0:26Shaan Puri?

  All right. In this episode, we are going to talk about-

• 0:28Sam Parr?

  Wait, one second. Look, we gotta let the guy, Mr. Beast, actually do the intro.

• 0:33Speaker 00

  Guys, in this, we're going to teach you how to make a fucking million dollars. If you don't have a million dollars, we're going to show you in this podcast.

• 0:38Shaan Puri?

  All right, that was way better than us. Yeah, that's right. Mr. Beast, the biggest YouTuber in the world, joined us on My First Million and Hasan Minhaj, one of the biggest comedians in the world. We did a four-person pod in person. This is kind of amazing.

• 0:48Sam Parr?

  Yeah. So look, check this out. I think Sean actually mentioned this on the podcast, but about three, four weeks ago, he said he's going to create this thing called Camp MFM. So basically he rented a house, a big old mansion in North Carolina, and he DM'd like 20 different people, a bunch of different founders and a bunch of interesting people. But then he also DM'd Mr. Beast and Hasan and he told them to come. I didn't actually think they were going to show up. And so we were just sitting here at night, recording a podcast, and they walked in and joined us and it was amazing.

• 1:15Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, it was crazy seeing one of the biggest YouTubers in the world, one of the biggest comedians in the world, they kind of interviewed each other and they talked about their creative process, what they're self-conscious of, what it's like to work for them, how much they put into each thing that they do. It was pretty nuts.

• 1:30Sam Parr?

  Yeah, it was, I mean, it was amazing. They, they made fun of me at first because I was nervous and I was, it was awesome.

• 1:36Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, it was a big deal. It was awesome.

• 1:37Sam Parr?

  Um, so check it out. I think you're going to dig it. Wait, hold on. We rolling?

• 1:40Speaker 00

  We're rolling.

• 1:41Sam Parr?

  All right, we're live?

• 1:41Speaker 00

  We're doing it. If it's not recording, you're just not getting it.

• 1:44Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, you're not getting it, dude. You're not getting it, Jimmy.

• 1:46Sam Parr?

  All right, we're live. Uh, wait, what were you saying?

• 1:48Shaan Puri?

  This is the most interesting crossover ever.

• 1:50Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:51Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 1:51Speaker 00

  Why are the four of us sitting here?

• 1:53Shaan Puri?

  I have no-

• 1:53Speaker 00

  Let's put him on the spot. It seems the most nervous.

• 1:56Sam Parr?

  Me?

• 1:58Shaan Puri?

  He's like the body language doctor. Body language, good, right?

• 2:01Speaker 00

  You know why I'm nervous? It's because I'm wearing these shorts.

• 2:03Sam Parr?

  Yeah, bro.

• 2:05Speaker 00

  We also got a live audience here. Why, why?

• 2:08Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. There's 30 men in this house. Why?

• 2:11Speaker 00

  Why is there a sausage fest? Give us answers.

• 2:14Shaan Puri?

  This is the power of Sean.

• 2:15Sam Parr?

  So, yeah, listen, here's the deal. So the story was, is that you wanted to do this and it happened in three weeks?

• 2:21Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, I just hit up a bunch of people. Actually, you know what? The way it really came together was I just tweeted it out. Because if you do that shit, like, you know, just it's like a luck magnet. Good things can happen. And a hundred something people signed up for it. I was scrolling through the names. And it's like, what's your Twitter handle? And one of them said, Mr. Beast. And I was like, but I, but I was like, it's a Google form. Anybody could write Mr. Beast. I was like, oh, yeah, whatever. Some jackass. Then he DMs me, he goes, this sounds fun. And we don't know each other. I don't know him at all. And he's like, I was like, oh shit, that was real. Oh shit, this is on, we're gonna do it now. And then I was like, uh, he's like, where are we doing it? And I was like, where does Mr. Beast live? North Carolina? I was like, yeah, we're thinking about doing it near Duke. He's like, okay, I'll come then. And then I got everybody else in after that.

• 3:02Sam Parr?

  You follow him on, on Twitter?

• 3:04Speaker 00

  Well, Ben from How to Take Over the World, like, retweeted him. And I was like, who's this guy? And I tapped. And he just tweeted like, five seconds ago, I'm hosting an NBA camp for like entrepreneurs. And I was like, oh, this looks cool. And then I just.

• 3:16Shaan Puri?

  That's how crazy luck is.

• 3:17Speaker 00

  I don't know who this is, but I mean, basketball sounds fun.

• 3:19Shaan Puri?

  And then he calls me last week. He's like, yo, I'm coming, but like, I don't know who you are. So like, what's your deal?

• 3:27Speaker 00

  And here we are.

• 3:28Shaan Puri?

  But you do that. You just walk around and call people.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I just like learning. I mean, that's how you.

• 3:33Sam Parr?

  Did you hear how he got connected with Ben?

• 3:35Shaan Puri?

  No.

• 3:36Sam Parr?

  All right. So Ben, over here, he is our producer. And he hosts this amazing podcast called How to Take Over the World. And I get, how did you find it?

• 3:44Speaker 00

  Bro, this is gonna get so many levels.

• 3:46Shaan Puri?

  Someone put him on.

• 3:47Speaker 00

  No one has any idea what we're even talking about.

• 3:49Shaan Puri?

  No, they do, because.

• 3:50Speaker 00

  Cliff, who's sitting there, told me to listen to How to Take Over the World. So I listened to it. He retweeted his tweet about the camp. And here I am.

• 3:57Shaan Puri?

  You know what's funny, by the way?

• 3:58Speaker 00

  There's your story.

• 3:59Shaan Puri?

  He's like, yeah, this is dog shit content. Cause on YouTube, you had to be on point. Like, in the first 10 seconds, you needed to like, grip people. He's like, this is their podcast.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  I've already gone over 20 ways we could optimize this better in my head.

• 4:09Sam Parr?

  What are they?

• 4:10Shaan Puri?

  What would they be? Let's go.

• 4:11Sam Parr?

  Already 20 ways?

• 4:12Shaan Puri?

  Well, that's what this podcast is. It's a brainstorm.

• 4:14Speaker 00

  We've already switched topics like, five times. And we didn't really hit them with like, a hard one at the start. Like, what would have been better if it's like, I don't know, like, we told some crazy story or something, like, to hook them. Or like, I don't know, or intro him, or me, for the ones who don't know. So then, like, they're like, oh, now I know I should have listened. Like.

• 4:29Shaan Puri?

  All right, host the podcast for a second. Do our 10 second intro.

• 4:31Speaker 00

  Guys, in this, we're gonna teach you how to make a fucking million dollars. If you don't have a million dollars, we're gonna show you in this podcast. Like, something like that. Now they're gonna listen.

• 4:38Shaan Puri?

  All right. So here's what's interesting. We got me and Sam. We got Hussain Minhaj, who's a famous comedian, Netflix special.

• 4:46Speaker 03

  We haven't announced it yet, but yeah, sure.

• 4:49Shaan Puri?

  Breaking news.

• 4:53Shaan Puri?

  We got Jimmy, AKA Mr. Beast, craziest crossover.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a wild crossover.

• 4:58Shaan Puri?

  You guys just met tonight.

• 4:59Speaker 03

  We met like an hour ago, yeah.

• 5:01Shaan Puri?

  All right, give me first impressions. What do you think of Mr. Beast?

• 5:03Speaker 03

  He's a cool guy. Yeah, he seemed really cool.

• 5:04Shaan Puri?

  What did you think coming in?

• 5:06Speaker 03

  I just knew he was a big prank stunt. He's the voice of YouTube. He's the voice of a generation.

• 5:12Shaan Puri?

  Or he's how you thought he would be?

• 5:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, I thought, I feel like, I feel like his, uh,

• 5:17Shaan Puri?

  You're gonna get your turn too.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  I feel like his curiosity, enthusiasm, all that stuff is really cool. Yeah, I listened to him on Rogan. He was really, he's really fascinating.

• 5:24Shaan Puri?

  And what about you? What was your first impression?

• 5:26Speaker 00

  I mean, kind of the same thing. Like, it was, I mean, you were just easy to talk to, which I think was very nice. Like, we were talking for like an hour.

• 5:33Speaker 03

  Yo, Sean, Sean just turned this into Indian matchmaking so fast.

• 5:40Speaker 00

  That ring on his finger, he's taken.

• 5:42Sam Parr?

  Dude, you said, so he said something really interesting to me earlier. We were just, you and I were shooting the shit.

• 5:47Speaker 00

  Oh, God, what is that?

• 5:48Sam Parr?

  And we're, we're talking about business. I think you said Elon Musk is like, I don't know if you said hero, but you're like, I think he's like the pinnacle of entrepreneurship. And I was like, well, what do you, what's gonna be your SpaceX? Or what's gonna be your like big rocket thing, you know? And you said, well, Elon had Zip2 when he was around my age. So Zip2 was like his peer filing, his peer sharing service that he sold and he made like 20 or 30 million dollars. And then he took that and he did PayPal and then whatever else he did. And you said something like, you know, I think I can build like a hundred billion dollar company, but if I'm being modest, I'll build a couple, a couple at least billion dollar companies.

• 6:30Sam Parr?

  But then, and then you go, but I don't really care about the money. I just love winning. I just want to win. And I was like, yes.

• 6:37Speaker 00

  Sounds about right.

• 6:38Sam Parr?

  I'm about this. I like that.

• 6:39Speaker 00

  I mean, like, money is cool, but, you know, I live in my studio. I don't have like a mansion. I don't drive a Lamborghini. So it's like, I like money because it can, I can hire more people and grow my business, but not so I can like increase my lifestyle or whatever. So, which, you know, most people, when you say, that's why I I prefer to say I love winning because it it kind of encapsulates it a little bit more because if if you just like, you know, talk about money, then people just think you just want to buy expensive stuff. Do your employees who?

• 7:05Shaan Puri?

  We went to his office today or went to his studio and he's like, took us on tour. Cool. This is where we blow shit up. This guy's trapped.

• 7:12Speaker 00

  John blew me off, by the way.

• 7:14Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 7:15Speaker 00

  Air Canada flight delays blew him off. Kidding, kidding.

• 7:19Shaan Puri?

  But we we walked through, he's like, all right, yeah, this is this boardroom. This is my office. And so we go in and it's basically like, imagine like, kind of like a gaming chair, computer, that's standard. Next to it, guess like two other objects in the room. Just take any guess.

• 7:33Speaker 00

  Uh, that he had?

• 7:34Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 7:34Speaker 00

  Analgene water bottle and uh, Just like a mattress on the floor?

• 7:38Shaan Puri?

  A bench press directly next to the desk. And then the walls were just like a Steve Jobs quote, an Elon quote, a Steve Jobs quote. There's like a timeline, like, at this age, Steve Jobs was here. At this age,

• 7:50Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 7:51Shaan Puri?

  You're motivated by that shit.

• 7:53Speaker 00

  Uh, ahead of it. Also, some of those Elon quotes aren't even real. I love to just put fake Elon quotes. So if people read it to see if they're like, oh, that's inspiring or just completely made up.

• 8:02Shaan Puri?

  Well, they're not that inside, but one was just the one right in front of your desk goes, work super hard. Elon Musk.

• 8:07Speaker 00

  That's one of the real ones. But I have my assistant like trying to find the dumbest things Elon's ever publicly said. So I can put mixed with all the real quotes, just to see if people believe them or not. Were you good at school? No, horrible. Really? God awful. Wow, okay. Yeah, that was like, I mean, I would act like I was studying, but you know, I was filming videos. I actually, my entire high school career never brought my book back home or anything. I would just like throw it under like the bleachers and then in the morning I'd just grab it. Your first video is what? You were like 12, right? Yeah. Oh, actually, I started making when I was 11. Yeah. Wow, holy shit. Yeah. And it's crazy because I see 11 year olds now. They're like this tall and squeakers. And I'm like, how was I making videos? This this kid looks. Is your first video still live? Uh, no, because I got embarrassed because people had played in class. So I deleted my channel and then I made a new one when I was 13.

• 8:52Speaker 00

  Wow, but the 13 year old videos are still. Yeah, 13 or. Wow.

• 8:55Shaan Puri?

  He has one that's dope. That's like a message to myself in five years.

• 8:59Speaker 00

  Colin is. Do you know what he's talking about? So the greatest thing I ever did in my life is when I was studying for a history test like back in a long time ago, when I had like 8,000 subscribers, I was like, screw this. I just closed my book. I threw it on the floor and I just recorded a video. I scheduled uploaded a video for six months and I go, hi me in six months. I think I'll have 100,000 subscribers, whatever, or no, 10,000 subscribers. I was like, and then I hit stop recording, then hit record, hi me in a year. And I schedule up because you can upload videos to the future, a video a year out. It's like, you better have 100,000. And I was like, hi me in five years. Bro, if you don't have a million subscribers, you're a fucking idiot. And I just would talk to me five years from now. And I was just like talking about the channel, but I filmed it when I had 8,000 subscribers a long time ago. And then I did hi me

• 9:41Speaker 00

  in 10 years, blah, blah. So 10 years hasn't come out yet, but hi me in five years came out. My prediction was I'd have a million subscribers. So it goes live on the channel like two years ago and I had like 40 million subscribers. But in the video that goes live, it's like, here's the date, here's the time. I'm like a fucking stupid teenage kid. And I'm like, I hope you have at least a million subscribers and maybe you're doing this as a job. I don't know. I make like 10 bucks a month right now. Like, I hope you can make it a job in the next five years. And that went public and I completely forgot I even did that. And I just, I was like, oh shit. I opened up YouTube and I saw it. Everyone thought it was, I thought it was one of the coolest things I ever did. Wow. And you're like a little kid in it. Yeah. And so in like three more years, hi me in 10 years goes up. And I'm like.

• 10:22Shaan Puri?

  You remember what's in it?

• 10:23Speaker 00

  I'm just like, I hope by now you should be out of college. Yeah, you're definitely out of college. I think that's how I started it. And you should be doing YouTube full time. Like, there's just no world you're not after 10 years. Like, you're probably making a little bit of money. I just hope you are. Like, I hope you did. And how much were you at the time? Like, I was, I had 8K subs, like making 10 bucks a month. And so my prediction in 10 years was like, I hope you're doing this as a job. And so when that goes up, I think that's gonna be crazy.

• 10:48Shaan Puri?

  And when we were talking today, you, like, you talk with a lot of certainty about.

• 10:54Speaker 03

  Like where you're going, what you're doing, there's like very like if everybody's got this knob, that's like doubt, your knob's set to zero on doubt. That's my, that's my, is that accurate?

• 11:03Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah. Well, the thing is we, I don't know, we probably spend like 20, 30 times longer thinking of ideas than other people. We probably film like 10 times more than other people. We probably spend a hundred times for a video more than other people. So it's like, we put in the effort, but I don't know how to say it where it's not arrogant. I just believe in what we're doing. You know what I mean?

• 11:21Speaker 03

  Back then, like, how much do you think you believe when you, when you've recorded that video that that was actually gonna happen?

• 11:25Speaker 00

  Oh, no. I mean, those were just different times. I was in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, North Carolina. So it's like everyone, you know, constantly wanted to remind me, you're not gonna be a YouTuber. Grow up, be realistic.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  I think it's amazing that you never left North Carolina, though.

• 11:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're still in bumfuck North Carolina. What are you talking about? Yeah. Trying to make it not bumfuck anymore, but it's a work in progress.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Do you still rap it really hard?

• 11:45Speaker 00

  Uh, I mean, I just, I got a lot, I mean, some of these people over here, I just got a lot of people and it's too much to move.

• 11:51Sam Parr?

  What was, what was your metric instead of subscribers and like views when you were younger? Because with, with, with business, it's like revenue or employees. You guys are both business, but you're also like a more creative thing. So what was yours?

• 12:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. When I was coming up, it was probably, can you do a set on late night? Can you do like a Conan set? Yeah. Could you, could you be on, I'll be a, um, I'll be a cast member of SNL. Like those were the metrics, kind of those like legacy media comedy institutions. I'll be in a movie. I want to be in a sitcom. I want to be in a TV show.

• 12:21Sam Parr?

  And what did it feel like when you started actually like, you know, The Daily Show and then selling out?

• 12:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, that felt like a real like kind of check mark. Like, wow, you've turned the corner.

• 12:30Sam Parr?

  Didn't you tell me that, that like right before that happened, you were living in a basement?

• 12:35Speaker 03

  I was living in an attic, bro. Yeah. Attics are actually above sea level, but basements are below sometimes, you know? So yeah, I was living like a kind of in a not a great situation, though.

• 12:45Sam Parr?

  How?

• 12:46Speaker 03

  I'm amazed at your confidence, bro. The level of, the level of confidence, like the

• 12:50Speaker 00

  In the video?

• 12:51Speaker 03

  Just as a sheer amount of confidence you have, because I, I still think maybe a downside of comedies, you have to have like a very high level of

• 12:58Speaker 00

  Well comedians are usually messed up.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  Self-deprecation and self-awareness to be like, you know what I mean?

• 13:03Shaan Puri?

  Well, you told me something because I was like trying to be funny.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  Right.

• 13:06Shaan Puri?

  And you sent me these like iMessage things that are like just gold. You just sent me these voice notes and one of the things you had said.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  He was trying to write, he was like trying to do kind of like a comedy monologue.

• 13:14Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, YouTube videos up there, 17,000 views, no big deal.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:17Shaan Puri?

  So, but you gave me a little hit, you go.

• 13:20Speaker 00

  Ego on this, man.

• 13:22Shaan Puri?

  Bro, you started at 8K, I'm at 17K, I'm at least gonna be up. But he says something, you go, comedy is low, low status game. You start low status.

• 13:33Shaan Puri?

  Is that a trade secret or can you do that?

• 13:35Speaker 03

  You know, it's like there's high status and low status. Generally, if you're low status, they're gonna empathize with you. You know what I mean? So.

• 13:42Shaan Puri?

  So like, what's an example? You get on stage?

• 13:44Speaker 03

  You being like, I got 17,000 views in front of a guy who gets like 50 million views.

• 13:48Shaan Puri?

  Right.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  But, but we're gonna, but we're gonna empathize more with you than we are with Mr. Beast in that scenario. Because you're like, oh, man, you know, and if you're, if you're like funny about it and to be confident about

• 13:59Speaker 03

  that, well, if, if you kind of own it, people are like, oh, like I.

• 14:03Shaan Puri?

  Even just now, we did like an awkward icebreakers of the group.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:06Shaan Puri?

  And I was thinking about this because, you know, I, my prompt was say your name and say one thing that nobody in the, in the room knows about you.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:12Shaan Puri?

  Which was basically like, you can't be like, oh, I'm Mr. Beast, I make a bunch of YouTube videos. I'm, you know, it's like, we can't use your claim to fame, you gotta use something else.

• 14:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 14:20Shaan Puri?

  And everybody was saying something interesting and then I think Sully was the first one who was just like, I played one game of Little League baseball in my life because I shit my pants and they wouldn't let me come back.

• 14:28Speaker 03

  That was really great, yeah.

• 14:29Shaan Puri?

  And now that's, by the way, 100,000 people are gonna listen to that one. But he did a low status one where everybody else was saying a fun, like a cool fact about them. He went low and somebody else was like, you know, I remarried my ex-wife, which makes me either the biggest idiot in the world or I guess the biggest idiot in the world.

• 14:46Speaker 00

  I still remember that. He's like, hey, group, share something no one on the planet knows, no one. And then five minutes later, all right, podcast, here's what they said.

• 14:55Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, shitting your, shitting your pants at Little League. Pretty, yeah, pretty low status. And then, yeah, being like, all right, I double backed and married my ex-wife again, like, yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 00

  No one knows this.

• 15:06Sam Parr?

  Jimmy, were you confident as a, as a kid?

• 15:09Speaker 00

  In the career?

• 15:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, just as a kid.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Uh, no, I fucking got off acne when I was younger. I still have a ton of acne scars, so it's even worse.

• 15:17Sam Parr?

  What are you not confident about? So you're confident in your work and your ability to hit certain goals, whether revenue target?

• 15:23Speaker 00

  Actually, at least, I mean, honestly, I'm still trying to get confident speaking in front of large groups of people, which made me want to ask you a question because you were talking about stand-up.

• 15:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:30Speaker 00

  How, um, so let's, if I dedicated my life to trying to be a stand-up comic, how long do you think it would take for me to get good at it?

• 15:37Speaker 03

  I mean,

• 15:39Speaker 00

  what's a typical?

• 15:40Speaker 03

  Everybody says it takes you 10 years to get good, but I just think it all depends on, um, like, your natural capacity and inclination for it. Like, there's some people I've seen, when they're open micers, they're amazing. You know, they just have great stage presence, they have great stories, they're, they're amazing on stage. So those people like that, comics that I've met, where I'm like, the first time I saw them, they were amazing. Um, Gerard Carmichael was like that. He was incredible. He was just incredible. He was so comfortable. We would do open mics and he would just, everybody was doing, was turning left and he was just turning right. Like, just his, his vulnerability, his stage presence. People would do their set, he would do things where like, it'd be like a Conan showcase. And everyone would do their polished material. Like, hey, what's up, I'm hustling and, you know, dating's hard. He would just get up and he would just,

• 16:25Speaker 03

  off the dome, like, kind of do a brand new set that night. And you could tell, you could tell, you're like, oh, this is kind of crazy.

• 16:33Sam Parr?

  So how long do you think it would take him to get good?

• 16:35Speaker 03

  I don't, I mean, it's, that's like, the question you just asked is like, how long would it take me to be as good as Ariana Grande at singing? You're like, how would I even? They're like, it's not, it's not a hack. Like, or if you asked, if you asked like a MMA fighter, like, how long would it take me to get as good as you? Like, it's a, oh, thank you. Um, it's a,

• 16:54Speaker 03

  See, that's the, you put them in low status. You offered the two waters to me. Now I feel weird. Now I gotta put the water aside. No, I gotta put the water aside. No, dude, low status. I spent my whole life trying to be high status. You guys, no, no, you guys all got the water. Now I'm parched. Now I'm parched. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to, I have to, I have to give Mr. Beast his water. You know what I mean?

• 17:11Sam Parr?

  Jimmy, what are you, what are your?

• 17:13Speaker 03

  You legacy media hack. I gotta pour the water for him and the, yeah. Get the fuck out of here.

• 17:19Sam Parr?

  Is your company ran like a normal company at all? Or, and what would your employees say about working with you?

• 17:25Speaker 00

  I mean, Tariq, you want to just come say it? I don't know.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  That's a Tariq question. That's a Tariq question.

• 17:29Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 17:31Sam Parr?

  Have you had like, how did you learn how to run a company? Do you ever had, did you have to hire someone?

• 17:35Speaker 00

  That's what's hard. Cause like, yeah, yeah, sure. He wants, come on in. That, that, there's a couple questions. Yeah, you take over.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  So the question was like,

• 17:44Shaan Puri?

  What's it like working with them?

• 17:45Speaker 04

  Oh, it's great. I mean, it's always different. No, it really is. It's always, here's the thing. Here's the thing. No, here's, here's the thing. Here's the thing.

• 17:51Shaan Puri?

  We know it's great.

• 17:54Speaker 04

  I'm fired. I'm already fired.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  But how's Tariq gonna answer that? But now,

• 17:58Speaker 04

  Well, listen, listen.

• 18:02Speaker 03

  Ask it, ask a better question.

• 18:03Shaan Puri?

  Let me ask you a better question.

• 18:04Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:04Shaan Puri?

  So the better question is, what's the,

• 18:07Speaker 03

  Fucking employers.

• 18:08Shaan Puri?

  What's the like extreme, either extreme good part or extreme bad part about working with them? We know it's overall extreme.

• 18:14Speaker 04

  Actually, I will, I will say that right now. For real.

• 18:17Speaker 04

  So extreme good part is, is experiences like, I've done experiences that I've never could have imagined in my entire life. Like the traveling, the, doing the coolest stunts that we've ever done. The, the worst part is, is I guess not knowing like what's next in terms of routine. And he knows this best too. Like we all kind of go through it if, if you work at Mr. Beast. So, but that comes with it. You know what I mean? And, and that's something that you kind of have to accept. But yeah, I think that's my answer.

• 18:46Sam Parr?

  Well, and the reason I was asking was because you,

• 18:49Speaker 00

  Am I your favorite boss? Am I a great person?

• 18:50Speaker 04

  So far, a hundred percent. Yes.

• 18:52Sam Parr?

  Well, no, I was, I was asking because my, my employees sometimes would complain that I'd be like too aggressive, changing things too much. But you seem more aggressive than I am.

• 19:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:00Sam Parr?

  And for a certain type of person, they like that. But for you to achieve your goals, you're going to have to have a lot of people. And then every once in a while process and every once in a while infrastructure and every once in a while planning.

• 19:09Shaan Puri?

  Are you a perfectionist?

• 19:10Speaker 00

  Well, of course. Yeah. Um, I, you know, it just, I just like to make the greatest YouTube videos possible and that's, that's literally all I want. So yeah, I mean, if it's not the greatest video, I just won't upload it. It's after you scrap a few videos, we kind of everyone, you know, just kind of starts to figure it out.

• 19:25Sam Parr?

  Does it scare you that you can't stop? Do you ever feel like, damn, I'm like, I'm, I'm just throwing all these coals on the, Yeah. On the embers of the, the algorithm.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  I like to use a better analogy. It's like a treadmill where I'm like 12, like the full speed and I've been going at a couple of years. No, it doesn't scare me, but so like I was telling him, the way I like to work is like, I like to go basically wake up, obsess over something, go to bed, wake up, obsess, go to bed, like every second of the day. Until I just have a mental breakdown and burnout and then I like take a day off or maybe a day and a half off. And I like to go right back to it. So I don't like work certain days. I just go as hard as I can, every ounce of my entire body until I just crash. And somehow that's sustainable.

• 20:03Sam Parr?

  What's, what time do you sleep?

• 20:06Speaker 00

  Right now, usually around 3 a.m.

• 20:07Sam Parr?

  Wow. And then, and then, and then you get up at like,

• 20:10Speaker 00

  Whenever, whenever Rohan or one of them knock on my door.

• 20:13Sam Parr?

  Tariq will wake you up and just like,

• 20:14Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, people will roll me out of bed. They're like, you need to go watch this video so we can submit it or I need help with the thumbnail or you gotta go film. It's like, I don't know. And I'm kind of, I, they tell me what to do. I don't dictate my life.

• 20:25Sam Parr?

  I'm just shocked at like the numbers. So like you're the, the, I, I don't, I'll let you reveal any numbers, but you've some big numbers for revenue for your other businesses.

• 20:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:34Sam Parr?

  And you have to have infrastructure for that. So that's why I was wondering, I was like, cause you, you are like this.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Oh, gotcha.

• 20:40Sam Parr?

  Yeah. So on the stereotype, you're like this crazy creative person who's disorganized and that's perfect.

• 20:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:45Sam Parr?

  But to sell that much of candy and/or of burgers, like you gotta be,

• 20:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. So those are all separate entities. So for our snack brand, we hired Jim who helped build RX Bar and we built the team around him. So that's a whole independent company that doesn't even work out of a studio. And same thing with B-Spr. So that's the beauty. I like to just find people who are just the best in the goddamn world at their job and then just empower them and give them money and,

• 21:07Sam Parr?

  So how many people work at the studio?

• 21:10Speaker 00

  In the studio, like 60, cause we don't have enough space to fit everyone. So that's why we're trying to build more, but building things just take forever.

• 21:16Sam Parr?

  Do you, do people like working for you, you think?

• 21:20Speaker 00

  The reason I'm asking is like, these like creative types, I'm like curious about like, because the goal is to make one of us like a big deal. Everyone is working for that. Whereas a lot of other companies, it's like, no, there's like this.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  It's not necessarily that either. There's also certain projects where I'd be like, I'd love to learn from you. So there's been shows and movies that I've done, like the morning show, like I've never done a sexy one hour drama. I want to learn from Reese Witherspoon. I want to learn from Jennifer Aniston. I want to learn from the show creators. Like, how do you do that? How do you shoot that? What's that lens? What are you doing that? Is that a 50? Is that a 75? How do you do that? How did you do that tracking shot? Why did you do that tracking shot? Let me see the script. Let me see the future script. There's all these things where I'm like, I just want to absorb. I just want to see how you do the whole thing. You know what I mean? Like, and that's an additive, like positive value for me. Because most people don't have that access to that, you know?

• 22:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, the sample is Tariq got to meet his idol today.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  Oh, man. Bro, Tariq, Tariq, you gotta set the bar.

• 22:16Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, we had told them that you were coming today to the thing and like the look of disappointment when they saw it was, I was the only brown guy there. They're like, that ain't hustling.

• 22:24Speaker 03

  They're like, yo, hustling's changed, bro.

• 22:27Shaan Puri?

  And I tried to be funny on top of it and they were like, what the fuck?

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Camera really does add ten pounds, bro.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  Oh, don't do that, bro. Don't do that. Don't do that.

• 22:37Shaan Puri?

  When we were at your office, so you have like a big Elon, Steve Jobs, like you admire these guys. That's why you like the How to Take Over the World podcast, because you like learning from them. What's a story that you heard that you're like, that like stuck with you? You remembered, you referenced it, like kind of changed the way you were thinking?

• 22:55Speaker 00

  From those two in particular, I think the biggest thing is like that Steve became a billionaire from Pixar, you know? Not even Apple. And so like the fact that he could go to this, just not even hardware company, more creative storytelling company, and just kick ass and create films like Toy Story and all these other bangers. And just, just build that company up to whatever it was, like then Disney bought it for 7 billion. And meanwhile, Apple's just falling to the ground and about to go out of business. And then they, you know, buy them back, but next and all of a sudden rebounds. And basically the way they did it was just getting rid of 90% of products and just focusing on like four or five. I mean, It just shows like the power that one individual had, even though both companies had, I don't know about Pixar, but Apple had thousands of employees and Pixar probably had at least hundreds.

• 23:38Speaker 00

  And despite all that, you know, one man can make that much of a difference. Like the power of having good vision and just not relenting is like invaluable.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Do you think your, your biggest strength is probably your curiosity? You're down to do anything.

• 23:50Speaker 00

  Well, so I think what you have to do is you have to always be learning. Right? That's how you can like, so like with our ideas, right? Cause we like to do original ideas that no one's ever done before. And I, I might've told you this when we were talking on the phone. Thing is like, if there was a hypothetical fruit in Japan, that if you eat it, makes it where you can jump 30 feet taller. Right? If that exists in this world right now, you didn't know it existed. So you couldn't come up with something around that. It's very hyper specific. But there's like a million things like that in the world that like, if you don't know about it, or you're not in taking the inspiration, you can't really come up with something. Like if I were to try to get into stand up, like that's how I would try to do something different. I just try to take intake a bunch of different information and see what spawns in my head. So I try to always be learning.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  Would the Mr. Beast version of stand up be like, I'm going to do the longest set ever. I'm going to do the longest comedy set ever. Would it have to be, would that be the Mr. Beast like twist on it?

• 24:38Speaker 00

  I would have to find something different because obviously the whatever is currently out there, because I have a bunch of people in my team who are stand ups. Like it's been done a bunch of times. So we'd have to figure out something different, uh, which I would love to one day, just because it seems fun. Cause it talks to me about all the time. But in general, you gotta always just be in taking inspiration from different places, whether it be different podcasts, books, or different knowledge. I have people that I pay that just teach me things, just whatever, like things that I think I don't know.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  What, what do you mean by that?

• 25:05Speaker 00

  Like they'll just find things that they don't think I'm aware of, or show me cool things and be like, I don't think you know, this is a thing. Here, read about it. And so that way I'm always.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Like what's, what's an example? And how many, how many of these people do you have? This is awesome.

• 25:16Speaker 00

  Right now, just like two or three.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  Jimmy, they, they call those people, those are teachers. I mean, he's like, he's like, they'll sit me down for about an hour at a time. And what's, what's wild is they'll focus on a subject and it's like, what's going on right now?

• 25:31Speaker 03

  Couple hundred grand.

• 25:35Speaker 00

  No, but it's like different topics. So yeah, like the last one was like about just like crazy online, like which like these like little things where they'll upload a file to Reddit and then like insights and encrypted codes takes you to a website, which takes you to a book and like these little like puzzles and like seeing if that inspired me. I don't know. It's just random things like that. So endpoint, I'm trying to always expand my knowledge well in my head with new things that I can draw inspiration from.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  I was giving him props earlier where I said, so much of people who kind of rev the algorithm are usually being divisive. They're saying something that's going to make you mad. Like I have a joke where I make fun of MDs and DOs and DOs get really mad. You know, it's like, that's like a niche physician's joke, but people get upset. But what I was saying was so cool about what you do is I think really what you've tapped into is joy and spectacle and wonder, which is, which is like a counter to that. And it's very rare to see that really take off on the internet. So what made you feel like I'm going to do that versus do videos that might, that might agitate people per se?

• 26:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I do think in general, it is a little bit easier just to piss people off and get attention. It's a lot harder to do good and get attention. So that's why I think a lot of people don't. But for me, because we just had this ability to go viral, it's just kind of like, there's a world where I make videos and I don't help people. And there's one where I make videos and I do help people. The one where I do help people is just a little bit more fun. So that's why I do it. I don't, you know, PR wise, I should have a better answer, but that's kind of the truth.

• 27:09Speaker 05

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• 27:23Sam Parr?

  What creators do you guys look up to?

• 27:25Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm curious to see what you say.

• 27:27Speaker 03

  What creators do I look up to?

• 27:29Sam Parr?

  Youtubers, podcasters, comedians?

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Podcaster.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  I was gonna say creative. It could be, it could be anybody.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Anybody.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  I think one of the first people that really inspired me, I think, was probably Steven Spielberg.

• 27:40Speaker 00

  Really?

• 27:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, he's one of the greatest storytellers ever. What was the first movie that you saw where you're like, oh, my God, I was blown away? For me, it was Jurassic Park.

• 27:47Speaker 00

  Um.

• 27:48Speaker 03

  As a kid.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  I, I only watched YouTube growing up. I've seen.

• 27:51Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. I get made fun of all the time.

• 27:53Speaker 03

  What was the last movie that you watched?

• 27:55Speaker 00

  Uh, well, I watched the Spider-Man 3 one because I never saw that earlier ones.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  Really?

• 27:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Like you have no time for movies.

• 28:01Speaker 00

  No, it's not that time. I just, I don't know. I, I need to, like, I need to go back and watch Star Wars and Harry Potter and all that stuff to get brought up on culture, but I was just like, uh.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  You didn't, and so you didn't see Squid Game. You just did the Squid Game.

• 28:12Speaker 00

  Squid Game, I watched it. Yeah.

• 28:13Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 28:13Speaker 00

  We did it.

• 28:14Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 28:14Speaker 00

  Like, I wouldn't count that as a movie. Like, I watched a ton of anime, but yeah, movies, weirdly enough, like, growing up, I didn't listen to music or watch movies. So I was, like, so out of culture.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  There's just part of why I was an introvert.

• 28:25Shaan Puri?

  There's this Conor McGregor quote where they're like, you know, he was on BBC or something. Like, oh, it's a bigger appearance, not just niche UFC thing.

• 28:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:32Shaan Puri?

  And they're like, what do you think about this team or this game? He's like, he's like, you know, the, uh, yeah, that one you said, they're great.

• 28:37Speaker 00

  It was like, it was like Arsenal or something.

• 28:38Shaan Puri?

  He's like, Arsenal, and they're like, you don't know anything about Arsenal, right? He's like, he's like, I don't watch the news. He's like, I don't watch, I don't follow the news. I don't watch sports. I don't do anything. He goes, I have lost my mind to the game. He goes, I am obsessed with my game. I have lost my mind to it. I don't have time for anything else. I don't want to know about anything else. I only want to know about this game. When we were hanging out, I feel like you had that vibe where you were like, uh, you said a couple of things. You were like, I decided I was gonna be a YouTuber. I was gonna make great videos. And it didn't matter if I died, the most famous YouTuber of all time, or 90 years old with 1,000 subscribers. I was gonna make great YouTube videos. Like, that's, that's what I decided I was gonna do. And that's all I do. I wake up and I do that thing.

• 29:18Speaker 03

  What was that first YouTube video that you saw that, like, kind of filled you with that wonder where you're like, wow?

• 29:22Speaker 00

  Well, this guy actually, uh, got hacked like a very long time ago. This, like, Call of Duty YouTuber, and they, like, leaked his earnings, and he had made, like, $100,000 a year the last few years. And I remember being like 10 and be like, what the fuck? They make that kind, they make money doing this? And I was just so mind blown that they actually made money.

• 29:40Shaan Puri?

  They make more than my mom?

• 29:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Right there when I was like, okay, I'm doing this. Like, I just don't care. I'm being a YouTuber or I'm gonna fucking die trying. I just don't care. And that like the second I saw that was actually possible, that's when I was like, that's it. And it's funny also talking about like obsession and stuff like this, because it's funny how it changes, right? When you're like, and maybe it's different now because social media is a little bit cooler. But when I was younger, like no one wanted to be a YouTuber. Like, most people, when I was thirteen, fourteen, didn't even have phones yet. Like, it was kind of like a little bit of an older thing. And maybe it's just because where I grew up. But it's funny because back then, people are like, get alive, stop being a fucking nerd, like you're too obsessive, you're weirdo. And then now it's like, oh, bro, he was so obsessive. He's, it's so great.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Right. It's seen as a positive quality.

• 30:20Speaker 00

  It's so funny, like, looking back on our life, going from a fucking loser nerd who's too obsessive and won't go anywhere to like, damn, that's really inspiring. And it's like, damn, that was very hurtful back then, but that's inspiring now. And so it's funny to see how it changes. But I like to bring that up because if there are younger people or parents who have kids who are obsessive like this, that's typically what happens. Like, younger kids don't understand that, and it's different. And so you don't watch the newest South Park or the newest movie or whatever. So you don't talk about the same thing. So then people are just like, oh, well, you know, fucking sucks.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  How would you, how would you deal with that? Because you have kids. I have kids. If they go, I want to be a Twitch streamer. I want to be a video gamer. You're like, let's go.

• 30:56Shaan Puri?

  I had the same realization. I was like, oh, so wait a minute. We spend the first eighteen years of our life trying to fit in. That's how I felt in school. I was trying to fit in all the time. What, what do people do that's cool? How do I do that thing?

• 31:06Speaker 03

  Right.

• 31:07Shaan Puri?

  And then, once I was like, in the adult world, it's like, oh shit, now we spend our whole life trying to stand out? Like, what was all that other shit? Why was I, why was I so focused on fitting in if the rest of your life you're trying to stand out? And I just realized like, oh shit, standing out has been the game the whole time. And the way you stand out is not by trying to figure it out. Just like, whatever you're obsessed with, just let that ride. Because you'll go on a path that nobody else is going to copy, and then you'll, you know, you'll land in a good spot. So if my kid, like, my daughter's two right now, if she was into gaming, or if she was trying to be a creator, all that stuff, I would be all in on it. Because I know, even if that's not your end game, following your obsession is like the thing to do in life. You know, that will always work out. But, you know, if you, like, actually go down that path. Well, most people do is they hedge.

• 31:50Shaan Puri?

  They like this thing, but then they see this path that's more proven or shiny, or they don't know if it's going to work. So they only half try, right? And then it's like that hedge is actually what gets you. It's not that this career path was that hard. It's that hedging is like, you know,

• 32:03Speaker 03

  What was your major in college?

• 32:05Shaan Puri?

  Biology.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  The ultimate hedge.

• 32:08Shaan Puri?

  That was different. I just didn't know.

• 32:11Shaan Puri?

  Well, what I think is actually, you could be doing the like YouTube, Tik Tok.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 32:17Shaan Puri?

  I feel like you can look at his videos and be like, all right, I get it. I get why people like this. I get why this pops. Probably pretty tempting to be like, could I go get 50 million views, 100 million views? That seems nice.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  No, to do what he's done, what he's done, I'm not going to, I'm not allowed to say it. You said you, you spend X number of dollars every video.

• 32:33Shaan Puri?

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  Started off. You can say, yeah, our average is around 1.5 million dollars.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  I mean, that's.

• 32:39Shaan Puri?

  Well, he, he does that now, but go look at his archive, right? It's like, he took a plastic knife and tried to cut a plastic table and it took him 48 hours to do that. That's a, that's a dollar 50 video, right? That's not a 1.5 million, that's 1.5.

• 32:51Speaker 00

  Counting a hundred thousand, zero dollars.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  It's a different thing. It's a different thing. So that's like a different type of skillset and muscle. So the types of videos he's producing, stand up is different. If, if a musician was here, if a DJ was here, it's not all the same just because it's on YouTube. So we all do different types of media. This is a different type of media.

• 33:08Shaan Puri?

  Are you tempted to like, you know, dabble?

• 33:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, we talked about this, right? I mean.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  I, the only, the, the thing that I, uh, would be, um, I would be reticent of is, what if I have, I have to put this thing out and I don't believe in it? Or I'm just doing it just to do it. That's the, that would be the problem. But I have to put up a new video every Tuesday. That's the.

• 33:32Speaker 00

  Just delete the video. Who cares? What do you do if you, if you? Sometimes we don't upload for two months. You just only upload when it's a great video.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:39Speaker 00

  That's all that matters.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. So.

• 33:41Speaker 00

  I think it's dumb when people stick to like a schedule and they're like, oh, the video is not great, but I upload every Tuesday. It's like, who cares?

• 33:47Shaan Puri?

  What are you guys trying to figure out right now? Cause I think if you watch a lot of interviews with people, it's like, it's all buttoned up. It's all figured out. They're already successful. It's all working. And then the person who's watching these videos typically somebody who doesn't have it all figured out. And they're just sort of like, ah, that's different. Like, that'd be nice to have it all figured out. But the reality is nobody's got it all figured out, right? Like we were in your office, the whiteboard's full because you're thinking of new, like where are we going? What's not figured out? We got to figure it out. So what's on both y'all's plate of like? What are you still trying to figure out in your game?

• 34:17Speaker 00

  I'll let you take it first.

• 34:19Sam Parr?

  Yeah, Sean, what are you trying to figure out?

• 34:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, what are you trying to?

• 34:20Sam Parr?

  Yeah, come on, Sean.

• 34:22Shaan Puri?

  Uh, I'm trying to figure out, I'll tell you, I'll try to figure out if I want to go all in on content creating.

• 34:27Sam Parr?

  Wow.

• 34:27Shaan Puri?

  Like, I basically built businesses. I have the most fun doing this, but I don't know if I had the most fun just because it's a hobby. And like, you know, I only get the good. I don't put all the work in.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  If you love it, then go along. I mean, it's not going to be less.

• 34:41Sam Parr?

  Do you love it?

• 34:42Shaan Puri?

  I love doing it the way we're doing it now.

• 34:44Sam Parr?

  Yeah.

• 34:44Shaan Puri?

  If I was like him, obsessed every hour of every day, trying to be like, how are we going to grow this channel? I might not love it as much.

• 34:51Sam Parr?

  Did you like doing the Twitter thing?

• 34:53Shaan Puri?

  Uh, for a period of time. It got old.

• 34:55Sam Parr?

  Yeah.

• 34:55Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, it got old. It was fun to chase the number. Can we get to a hundred thousand in like a few months? Yeah, this is fun to chase a number, but that didn't.

• 35:01Sam Parr?

  Yeah, I got sick of it, too.

• 35:02Shaan Puri?

  That didn't last. So that gets me worried. But that's the thing I'm trying to figure out. It's like, should I go all in on content creating? Or should I stay with creating businesses? Which one is like, what do I want to be when I grow up? That's the question.

• 35:13Sam Parr?

  I'm asking myself that exact same question, too. Because sometimes like when you're, when you're creating business first, then go to content. I'm like, oh, man, am I just going to talk about doing it all the time? Or am I just going to fucking do it?

• 35:24Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 35:24Sam Parr?

  So I.

• 35:25Shaan Puri?

  I know exactly what you mean.

• 35:26Sam Parr?

  Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. What about you?

• 35:30Speaker 03

  Uh, right, right now, um, I'm trying to stay loose for this game tomorrow. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to get tight, man. I'm thirty six, bro, pushing thirty seven. Like, he's a young boy. Like, he might run us off the court.

• 35:43Shaan Puri?

  He wanted to play tonight.

• 35:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was like, let's get a court tonight. Yeah. I was like, yo.

• 35:48Shaan Puri?

  Six games in me and I'm done.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  Dude, my L four is hurting. Like, my hamstrings are kind of tight from this flight.

• 35:54Shaan Puri?

  We got to his studio and he was like, uh, he's got a hoop there.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:57Shaan Puri?

  He's like, oh, we got, we got six. Let's play a game.

• 35:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:59Shaan Puri?

  He's wearing his like Yeezy slides. I was like, bro, I need fifteen minutes of stretching. And then like, you know, I need like proper medical attention. If we're going to try to do something here.

• 36:09Speaker 00

  Do you guys want to go ball?

• 36:11Speaker 03

  If there was an indoor court, we would do it. Yeah. I played, I played 21 with Jimmy right now. Yeah.

• 36:16Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 36:16Speaker 03

  That'd be a fun, that would be a fun video. That would be a fun video.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  You want to make it happen? Can you just find a court somewhere around here?

• 36:25Speaker 03

  We'll play 21.

• 36:26Speaker 00

  Amazing.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  We'll play 21 or horse. Yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  We'll wrap up with this, with your, with your answer. Okay. What was the question? Let's not figure it out. What are you trying to figure out? Oh God, everything. So I'm just gonna say a funny joke to change the topic.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  Alright, for sure.

• 36:39Speaker 00

  Basketball, how to not train my legs tomorrow. There you go.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  There we go.