6 College Students Pitch Us Their Startups | MFM Shark Tank

Episode 647: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) invite 6 college students to pitch their startup ideas. — Show Notes: (0:00) Intro (3:58) Meet Your Class (16:32) Metafrazo (30:21) Milieu (42:47) Brother Nuts (54:14) Tour (1:08:38) Pathlit — Links: • Meet Your Class - http://meetyourclass.com • Jonah Liss - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonahliss/ • Blake Mischley - https://www.linkedin.com/in/blake-mischley/ • Metafrazo - http://metafrazo.ai • Shrikar Lekkala - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shrikar-lekkala/ • Milieu - http://milieubio.com • Nathan Shatz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-shatz/ • Brother Nuts - http://brothersnuts.com • Austin Majors - https://www.linkedin.com/in/austin-majors-6b3275195/ • Tour - http://usetour.com • Amulya Parmar - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amulya-agape/ • Pathlit - http://pathlit.com • Advay Gupta - https://www.linkedin.com/in/advaygupta/ — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: Need to hire? You should use the same service Shaan uses to hire developers, designers, & Virtual Assistants → it’s called Shepherd (tell ‘em Shaan sent you): https://bit.ly/SupportShepherd — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com • Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth • Sam’s List - http://samslist.co/ My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, so just to preface here, I'm Tommy, Tommy Potter, student at U. Mish. Really excited to be bringing you startups today to illustrate the community we're Power Hour, which is the CIA for college entrepreneurship. And what I mean by that is that you don't know like who we are, you don't know where we meet. We are this underground society of handpicked killer founders.

• 0:21Shaan Puri?

  Wow, hold on, hold on. If you're building the impossible, we got Tommy like Tommy Potter like Harry Potter. And then there's no, there's no meeting place, there's no information, there's no way in and there's no way out of this club.

• 0:32Speaker 00

  It's a tap on the shoulder. It's a tap on the shoulder, just like the CIA. We let you know individually where we're going to be meeting.

• 0:39Shaan Puri?

  Dude, Sam, they're speaking your language already. This is some real skull and bone shit.

• 0:51Speaker 00

  And I want to preface, this is live audience. If Sam and Sean, you don't know, I'll pan the room. We got like 65 people here, ready for you.

• 1:01Shaan Puri?

  That's a noise.

• 1:03Speaker 00

  The ecosystem is out here today. I know the same is going on down at UIUC. They got a massive room. How many you got in that room there, Austin?

• 1:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll pan the camera too, real quick.

• 1:14Shaan Puri?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  So, but yeah, we've, they don't want all points that Tommy said, I basically hope get all the amazing founders as well as entrepreneurs, content creators, everybody that's doing awesome stuff in the same room down here at UIUC. So we're, we're super pumped on both sides.

• 1:32Speaker 00

  And UIUC, is that Illinois Carbondale?

• 1:38Speaker 02

  University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, the big I. So that's who we are.

• 1:43Shaan Puri?

  So we got Tommy, we got Austin. The club is called Happy Hour? Is that what you said?

• 1:48Speaker 00

  No, we're Power Hour.

• 1:50Shaan Puri?

  Oh, power hour.

• 1:51Speaker 00

  Power hour.

• 1:52Shaan Puri?

  I got you.

• 1:52Speaker 00

  An hour full of power.

• 1:54Shaan Puri?

  And, and it's all student run. There's no faculty, nobody who's, uh, who's making this happen. Is this a like, has it been around for 10 years or did you just invent this on Thursday? What's going on?

• 2:03Speaker 00

  Do you remember Bobby, Bobby Firehousel, which was on this, this podcast about two years ago?

• 2:08Shaan Puri?

  I may never forget Bobby.

• 2:10Sam Parr?

  So Bobby started all of this?

• 2:12Speaker 00

  Bobby started this. Bobby started this and it's kind of been planting around and, and UIUC has their community. We're very like deep in our partnership there as well.

• 2:20Sam Parr?

  This is, so this is fantastic. So to give the listener background, two years ago, we had this guy named on Bobby. Bobby, I think was in Michigan. Bobby, um, gathered like this, like group of maybe 15 entrepreneurs and like four of them pitched us and they were awesome. And apparently Bobby has Fight Club this thing and gone out from university to university to like convince you guys to join on. And this sounds awesome. And so today I think six of you, so three each are going to pitch us. Is that right?

• 2:48Speaker 00

  Totally correct. Yeah. There's a lot of school pride on the line in terms of which school is going to come out on top in this competition. So we're laying it all on the line for you. We have, you know, tons of creators in the audience. It was tough to get it down to three, three startups, but we're giving you our best. Um, so can't wait. We're ready to, we're ready to roll.

• 3:05Shaan Puri?

  So this is college shark tank style, two schools pitching from both. We're going to have a winner. Um, we're going to maybe have a, uh, a few other awards that we come up with. I invested in one of these last time, Sam, out of, uh, out of Michigan. So I

• 3:19Speaker 00

  How's it going?

• 3:21Shaan Puri?

  Company already failed. So we're not gonna, we're not gonna hold that against y'all. You win some, you lose some, and we lost that one pretty hard, pretty quick. Uh, but that's all right.

• 3:29Speaker 00

  All right. But let's see if you guys could beat Michigan. So the first one that we're going to hear from is meet your class. And I think is University of Michigan, are you guys doing three in a row? And then it's going to be

• 3:40Sam Parr?

  We're going to

• 3:41Speaker 00

  Oh, back and forth. All right.

• 3:42Shaan Puri?

  All right. Sam, I think we just need to step aside and let this kid emcee this. He's got

• 3:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:46Shaan Puri?

  The natural

• 3:46Speaker 00

  All right, go for it.

• 3:47Shaan Puri?

  Of a host. See, I'm using college words.

• 3:50Speaker 00

  Is it let it bake or let them cook? Which one is it?

• 3:52Shaan Puri?

  Whatever. Which, let it, we're gonna let them bake.

• 3:55Speaker 00

  Haha.

• 4:02Sam Parr?

  All right, the first one is the folks at Michigan.

• 4:07Speaker 04

  Okay. Hello, my name is Jonah and I'm the COO of Meet Your Class. Two years ago, my co-founders and I created a platform for prospective college students to meet each other before coming to campus. And Meet Your Class quickly grew in popularity, largely because the communities we built actually extended beyond our own platform and integrated with the social media apps that nearly every high schooler uses on a daily basis. Within two years, this system has scaled to over 400,000 account creations and even generated over $600,000 in revenue through a freemium business model. While this was a great success,

• 4:50Speaker 04

  an even larger opportunity emerged when we were approached by a university called The Christ College, which was struggling with enrollment. Basically, they were having issues filling seats. And they were not alone. This is a really big issue. Recent polls have found that over 2/3 of university CFOs are deeply concerned about declining enrollment. A really big factor in this that The Christ College and really the majority of universities across the country struggle with is a phenomenon known as summer melt. Summer melt refers to when a prospect gets all the way to the tail end of the enrollment funnel just to at the last second reneg on their deposit,

• 5:33Speaker 04

  reneg on their commitment, and decide they no longer want to go to college. At The Christ College, believe it or not, this was happening with every 1 in 3 students, which eventually was leading to a 33% vacancy rate at the school. The Christ College believed that Meet Your Class could help decrease this summer melt because our platform had gained a reputation as being able to build up excitement for prospective students and also to give them a support network. Furthermore, we also found through discovery that MeetYourClass data was very valuable for universities in helping them to allocate their limited time and resources towards students

• 6:15Speaker 04

  who needed the extra attention and help. And we're very excited to say that this worked. At the Christ College, students who used MeetYourClass last year experienced a 61% reduction in summer melt, which is expected to add $1.7 million back to their top line. And we're so excited by these results because at a minimum, this summer melt issue is calculated to cost the higher education system over $11 billion per year. And it's of course going to take more than one case study to really go after this market, but luckily, we now have scaled to eight partners for the upcoming admissions cycle. And amazingly, that same B2C business that I described at the start is helping us and empowering

• 7:00Speaker 04

  us to create a product that's industry-leading, loved by students and administrators. It also got us admitted to Techstars and has allowed us to bootstrap our way into a much larger, much more qualified team, ready to take the higher ed market by storm.

• 7:15Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 7:24Shaan Puri?

  All right. That was great. Do you have an ending for us? So Sharks, who's ready to, you know, blah, blah, blah? And are you raising, are you actually raising money or not, not raising money right now?

• 7:36Speaker 04

  We're planning to potentially open a seed round when we graduate in the spring.

• 7:40Sam Parr?

  Okay, great. That is awesome. That is awesome. By the way, of the $600,000 in revenue, how many people are working there? What's your profit? Do you have any profit?

• 7:50Speaker 04

  Um, yeah. So us as initial co-founders have not paid ourselves a dime and we reinvest every single penny back into the team. Um, so I don't know the exact profitability off the top of my head. You know, we try to keep the bank account enough to stay alive, but we reinvest every penny back into growing the team and getting to more university partnerships. And we're trying to get 50 by the end of this upcoming admissions cycle.

• 8:16Sam Parr?

  Of the 600,000, how much is in your business account right now?

• 8:20Speaker 04

  I think around 300,000. We got 120,000 from Techstars and then have also won some pitch competitions.

• 8:28Sam Parr?

  Okay.

• 8:28Shaan Puri?

  Okay, cool. And Blake, your name is Blake, right?

• 8:31Speaker 04

  My name's Jonah. Blake is my amazing co-founder.

• 8:34Shaan Puri?

  Okay, great. So Jonah, great, first great pitch, really cool business. At first, when you were talking about it, I thought, well, you know, you sort of created Facebook 20 years too late. You're trying to help college kids connect. But then, what the story got really interesting when you started talking about how colleges are struggling to fill enrollment and they have vacancies, just like a hotel has vacancies, a college has vacancies, and that maybe your tools actually could help them decrease that. And then, then they would be your customer, right? You'd be charging them. Did you charge that first college? And what are you charging those other eight colleges, who you said are partners with you on this?

• 9:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, so our initial partners are heavily discounted relative to like the market rate for a solution like this, because we're trying to get more logos, more case studies. Currently, those partners are at under $10,000, but there's a very clear path to scaling this, once we have a bit more credibility under our name.

• 9:31Sam Parr?

  You said market rate. Who else is doing something like this? And what are they doing?

• 9:36Speaker 04

  We do have a handful of competitors. So this initial thing that we're describing is called like mid funnel conversion. It's basically getting people who are later on in the enrollment funnel and then trying to convert them. There's a few competitors listed in that second column, where we really stand out from them is our integrations with social media, because we're able to get a large organic user base at the earliest and latest stages of the enrollment funnel. So a lot of our competitors are like third-party apps, where the university basically emails all their students, says, hey, download this, and kind of

• 10:19Speaker 04

  forces them to use it. And the reason they do that is because these communities generate so much valuable data and they have a lot more control over it.

• 10:29Speaker 04

  And social media standalone really doesn't do this for them because it's not a tailor-made higher ed tool. So we're basically retrofitting these social media platforms and bringing all the data that they pay for these programs.

• 10:43Shaan Puri?

  So Jonah, if you were charging them what you think you can charge them, have you had any conversations about how much they would be willing to pay either as a percentage of sort of saved students or as a flat fee? What's your sense of how much each college can pay?

• 10:57Speaker 04

  So initially, just for this mid funnel conversion tool, we believe that it should be pretty reasonable. Of course, a college is varying size, but we've seen these at the lowest for the smallest schools around $20,000. And then we've seen them scale past $200,000. Um, this is of course, just like one small part of the enrollment funnel. There's many more issues that we believe we're primed to solve. That's just a generally like, I always want to say a commoditized rate that universities like college will pay with.

• 11:31Shaan Puri?

  Is this the biggest problem or is there a bigger problem?

• 11:34Speaker 04

  This is one of the biggest problems. Um, as I mentioned, for the Christ College, one in three students were melting. So when we were, so it's just like kind of the lowest hanging fruit to initially go after because these are kids who arguably should be going to college. They got very, they got way to the tail end of the enrollment funnel and then we then converted more of them. Um, but they obviously wanted to just get more slots and seats throughout the entire process.

• 12:03Sam Parr?

  Jonah, how's this? Um, you know, I always ask how the story ends. Uh, is there a vision for where you, where you're going to be in 10 years with this?

• 12:12Speaker 04

  Um, we're still trying to figure that out. We are very motivated by genuinely improving the student experience and making it so college is worthwhile. So in the long run, we want to put power back in the students' hands. A lot of students don't know that they have negotiation power in the tuition price and a lot of them also end up at places that are suboptimal. So we kind of want to, in the long run, become the go-to place that students come to and they figure out where they're going to be the most successful to for 10 years down the line.

• 12:49Shaan Puri?

  Did you just say that you can negotiate tuition price? Cause I had no idea that was possible.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  It is possible. I personally didn't do it. Some members of my team could speak to it a lot more, but students have a lot more power than they realize. Universities need students in order to stay in business. The majority of schools, not the University of Michigan, but the majority of schools are tuition dependent for revenue. Tuition in Michigan is like a very small percentage of revenue. So if you ask for decreased tuition here, that likely would not pan out because they're not really struggling with any financial situations. But at the end of the day, colleges need to act like a business, otherwise they're going to go under.

• 13:37Sam Parr?

  I was just Googling some of these companies. Sean, have you heard of Unibuddy? Did you Google any of those community apps? I had no idea this stuff existed. Some of them are actually quite large.

• 13:46Shaan Puri?

  How big?

• 13:47Sam Parr?

  Unibuddy, I think, raised $30 million. They raised it during COVID, so there's TBD if it's legit. But it seems like it's a business that does many tens of millions in revenue.

• 13:57Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. Jonah, my quick take on this, I think you actually have a real business here. One of the biggest investments I missed on was the very first guy who ever pitched me as an angel investor. He had an idea for something called ApplyBoard. And what he was doing was helping international students get into, he was helping like kind of these small colleges get more international students because international students just didn't know their name. I had never heard of Christ College till you just said it. And he was charging about two to three, he was charging the university $2,000 to $3,000 per student that actually got admitted and enrolled there. And so he was making, you know, tons of money. So that company really took off. So I think you, I think you have a real business here.

• 14:38Shaan Puri?

  The only thing I would say, I guess, to wrap up is I don't think you should ever raise money for this. I think you should bootstrap this thing. And if you actually just stuck with this idea and you bootstrapped it, you know, in four or five years, you would be sitting on probably $20 million, which would be a phenomenal place for you to be exiting this business. And I think the biggest risk for you is not a business risk. It's a, we raise money because we pitch investors. This could take over the world because we thought that's what we're supposed to do. We thought you have an idea, you pitch investors, you raise round one, round two, round three. And suddenly we're looking at you saying, how are you going to be a billion dollar company? And the reality is this might be a phenomenal $50, $50 million company, but no chance at a billion dollar company.

• 15:21Shaan Puri?

  So my, my advice to you would be don't raise, but great pitch overall. Sam, any last thoughts?

• 15:26Sam Parr?

  I completely agree. Completely agree.

• 15:29Shaan Puri?

  All right, Jonah, thank you. Big round of applause.

• 15:39Sam Parr?

  All right. So where are we going now? Illinois?

• 15:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, we've got our guy out in San Francisco right now, Shrikar. So.

• 15:47Speaker 06

  How's it going, guys? Nice to meet you.

• 15:49Shaan Puri?

  All right. I love it. You drop out? You're not even in college? What's going on?

• 15:53Speaker 06

  No, I'm actually on a gap semester. Hey, Sean, I'm in Founder's Inc. I know you know Saifan.

• 15:58Shaan Puri?

  Oh, no way.

• 15:59Speaker 06

  Background. So just met him yesterday. A couple, me and my couple of my buddies are, I'm just visiting San Francisco here, seeing if this is the right place for us. But yeah.

• 16:07Shaan Puri?

  All right. Well, gap year. I like, I like the sound of that already.

• 16:11Speaker 06

  About a year ago, me and my co-founder were watching the Spanish TV show Money Heist on Netflix. Unfortunately, neither of us know Spanish very well, so we had to watch an English dub. Anyone who's ever watched a dubbed movie knows that there's a bunch of issues. The lips are not synchronized with the audio, the voice actors sound nothing like the actual actors. There's one scene where two voice actors had the same actor, making everything extremely confusing.

• 16:36Speaker 06

  We looked at this issue a bit further and found that it is extremely technically complex, expensive at $100 to $1,500 per minute, time consuming and low quality to dub a video nowadays. With all of this, dubbing is a $60 billion market in 2022, and there's been no clear solution for this. We started by translating content for creators like Mr. Beast and Mr. Nightmare, and found that the essential use case is within education. Imagine the millions of people trying to get an education in their second language, where the content is not meant for them. So we created MetaFrozo, an automated, authentic and affordable translation solution for educators. All a user has to do is input a video into our solution, press the input and output language, press submit,

• 17:17Speaker 06

  and within minutes, get a lip sync, voice clone and text onscreen translated video, just like this one that we translated for our client, ULUC and Geese and Coursera.

• 17:27Speaker 07

  Utilitarianism suggests that an ethical choice will lead to the greatest good for the greatest number of people. Ismo sugiere que una decisión ética producirá el mayor beneficio para el mayor número de personas.

• 17:38Sam Parr?

  That's pretty good.

• 17:39Speaker 07

  Utilitarismo sugiere que un choi étique conduirá au plus grand bien pour le plus grand nombre.

• 17:45Speaker 06

  So as you can see, professor's voice is perfectly cloned from English to Spanish to French. His lips are synchronized and our key differentiators, any text on screen is translated with the same font, text and color as well. For our enterprise clients, we have a human in the loop process where we translate videos with industry-specific terminology, keywords, idioms, none of that Google Translate issues. We also have the most languages and cheapest product on the market. Right now, we're at $6,000 in monthly recurring revenue translating videos for University of Illinois and corporations like Velcro Corporation. We actually are in talks with Coursera for a potential integration in quarter one of 2025 as well. Just to look at one of our potential deals after our paid pilot with Geese, just one degree.

• 18:29Speaker 06

  Looks like 30,000 minutes in five languages, generating $1.35 million in revenue for our company. This actually saves the university 91% in actual costs and curating the course as well.

• 18:41Speaker 06

  Our team combines business and technology with myself taking a gap year to focus on this and our machine learning team of five machine learning engineers having 37 years of experience in computer vision. Hi, my name is Charla Cola and my purpose is to break language barriers. Thank you guys very much.

• 18:58Shaan Puri?

  All right.

• 18:59Sam Parr?

  That's awesome.

• 18:59Shaan Puri?

  Great pitch, great pitch.

• 19:04Shaan Puri?

  And leave some of the slides up so we might need to go back to them. So first of all, the demo was great. Can you just tell us a little bit about that, the magic there? So you said translates the voice, makes the lips match, which I've never seen anyone do that.

• 19:18Sam Parr?

  Did you see Dana White do that, Sean? You didn't see Dana White do that for the Mexican Independence Day UFC? It was great.

• 19:24Shaan Puri?

  No, I didn't see that. So what are you doing to make the lips, is it superimposed on top of their lips?

• 19:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, so essentially, we take one of my buddy's YC model. We take any original video or any original audio and we are allowed to synchronize the lips based on the input of video and audio in our backend system. We then curate that.

• 19:48Shaan Puri?

  I thought you were gonna say you took one of your buddy's lips and he's a model. So you're saying there's an off-the-shelf library, basically a lot of off-the-shelf model that does this already. You guys are just integrating that.

• 19:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's true, that's true.

• 19:59Shaan Puri?

  Okay. And another question, you said something like, if they did this just one course for one university, that's like a million in revenue for you. Are they currently, are you convincing them, hey, you should dub this? Or they're already dubbing it just at 10 times the cost?

• 20:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, so right now, they're translating videos automatically and they're translating courses, like imagine quizzes, tests, and just like reading papers, but they're not translating the videos. So a Spanish user has to go on Coursera and, you know, take the course in Spanish, but have to read the subtitles on an English video for these videos, these courses that they're creating right now. We're basically providing the solution that standardizes the actual viewing experience for the end user. So they are doing this right now, just without.

• 20:44Sam Parr?

  Hey, you said that, you said, I think in 22 or 23 or something like that, that dubbing was a 70 or 60 billion dollar, what is that number? Tell me about that number. That's ridiculous.

• 20:56Speaker 06

  Just looking at traditional dubbing, this means in film, education, marketing, just translation in general, huge market, bunch of different positions that we could put ourselves in. Was trying to tell you guys that we also translated for content creators like Mr. Beast, Mr. Nightmare, but found that the niche was in education for us just because of the central need. Think about the applications of translation for people that have life-changing opportunities stripped for them because they can't take a course in their preferred language or they're not able to understand the professor in a classroom. So that's where we got that number.

• 21:32Shaan Puri?

  Right. But the key distinction, you said they're already doing this, but, but actually, the way you said it was, they're translating the tests and the quizzes, they're just not, they're not doing the videos today. And so for them to agree to do this, this would be a new cost of a million dollars to them that they're not currently spending.

• 21:50Speaker 06

  So in terms of translating a video in general, they're trying to translate these videos. But for them, for like a person to translate a video, just like for a 10 minute video, it takes four hours. They have to curate new slides, have a new professor go in, you know, speak in a new language of the contract these people. This would cost them $3 million to edit these videos, um, you know, go over, edit the screen text and.

• 22:16Shaan Puri?

  But there's a big distinction. Let's say I'm sitting at this university and I look like I am with this vest on right now. And I, I'm sitting there and I've got my budget, but what I'm asking you is today, they don't already spend in this. You're not saving them money from something they're already spending. They're currently not spending because it would be too expensive to do it, too slow, too expensive. And so you're going to be a new cost to them, right? So that's going to be a big point of friction because they're not going to make more money necessarily off this. You might be able to convince them that if you do this, you might be able to get more customers, but day one, it's going to be just extra cost with no extra revenue. Is that correct?

• 22:52Speaker 06

  Uh, that is true. However, they are going in the direction of putting these courses online. Digital um, translation is a thing that they're already doing. This would just be an added cost for them at the end of the day, but it would provide a better solution, potentially being a marketing play for international students to come to the University of Globe. But to answer your question, yeah.

• 23:10Sam Parr?

  What are you doing for Velcro? First of all, I didn't, I didn't know Velcro was a brand. I thought Velcro was like Kleenex or tissue, you know, I thought it was a thing. That's pretty wild. But what are you doing for them and how did you close those guys? Cause they look like a big old, old sluggish company.

• 23:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, uh, we had a personal connection to one of the higher ups of the company. We do internal communications for them. So um, every month there's a 90 minute internal town hall where the CEO basically speaks in English. She's an Italian woman. Um, she had a bunch of issues with, when she's speaking English, she lacks emotion. She kind of um, doesn't feel like herself. And we were able to provide them a solution where she was able to provide the company with updates in her true persona and the new language by speaking in Italian for 90 minutes into our camera. We put that into our solution. Within three hours, we were able to curate a translated video that she's able to send all the plans at vocal corporation in 10 different languages. And we provide that solution to them today.

• 24:09Shaan Puri?

  But it sounds like you're not doubling down as much on enterprise. You want to go for this university education niche. Is that right?

• 24:16Speaker 06

  So we want to go into the education niche. This is universities. This can mean educational content creation. This can mean corporate trainings as well. We understand that these educational sales cycles are extremely long, which is why going to these translation agencies for educational content as well can help us kind of apply like a geometric approach to our sales cycle as well, just to speed everything up faster, having us get more traction to it. And then the university brand itself creates a stance where people say, hey, University of Illinois uses this. I'm an educational content creator. I trust them. I'm going to trust this company as well.

• 24:52Shaan Puri?

  Right. Well, I think you have a solid pitch and I think you have a really great product. But I think this is a product in search of a market. I think you're going to run into a lot of trouble because you're going to go to these universities and you're going to say, hey, we're great. And they're going to say, yeah, that's awesome. But they have no budget. They won't have the budget for it, or it's just going to be seen as an extra cost without a clear extra payoff or sort of ROI attached to it. And so I think that's going to hurt the sales cycle. What's already a slow sales cycle is university sales. I think it's going to get harder because you're costing the money rather than saving the money. But one thing to consider is if there's already a big market for dubbing out there and they're doing it manually.

• 25:37Shaan Puri?

  This is actually could look like a private equity play where you go buy existing dubbing services that have existing books of business. And then you just fire all the people and replace it with the AI that's going to do it better and faster and cheaper than they're currently doing. You said it costs like a hundred dollars a minute or whatever to dub with with humans doing it. And so what you could do is you could go buy companies and then rip out the cost structure by replacing it with AI. And that might be actually be a better way to go to go to this market. And again, this is something that you don't really hear a lot. You're in San Francisco now. A lot of people don't talk about this, but there is a whole other avenue of business, you know, rollups and private equity where they're looking for this. They buy something at a fair price and then they cut slash the costs in half by using technology to make things more efficient. You could do that here.

• 26:22Speaker 06

  Understood, and we actually are trying to do that right now, partnering with the translation agency to understand exactly how they derive their clients, how they are going through these sales cycles with refugees, people that are going through different educational content. The one thing about universities is that I do seeing this being globalized in systems and learning management systems like Coursera. So, we just had a meeting yesterday with Coursera to essentially say at the University of Illinois pilot goes, well, they're willing to give us a shot at integration for translation for a couple of courses there that would, you know, allow us to dub from going like a thousand minutes for every two weeks to maybe a thousand hours for every two weeks,

• 27:06Speaker 06

  just to show you the kind of stance that we're taking in terms of universities. We're going for the learning management systems, not the individual university.

• 27:14Sam Parr?

  Hey Sean, I don't pay attention to this world too much, but how, that video that we saw, how impressive was that?

• 27:23Shaan Puri?

  I mean, it's definitely impressive, and I think they're doing a couple of other things that are specific, like changing the text on the screen. So I think, you know, that makes the whole solution work because then the actual course works. So it's definitely impressive, but I, you know, there's gotta be 10 other companies that could do this today, or there's nothing like a scientific breakthrough with what they're doing. So this is really gonna be a question of who builds the best business around this new technology. The technology exists and anyone's gonna be able to build a business around this. So it's really gonna be about who figures out the right market, the right go-to-market strategy, the right pricing model to actually build a business out of this.

• 27:58Sam Parr?

  What do your parents think about you taking the gap year?

• 28:00Speaker 06

  We got into Techstars in June, ended up declining that. My parents are South Indian. They kind of are driven by, you know, percentages, like Prestige was able to show them that, hey, maybe I'm like top 1% of pre-seed companies by getting this accelerator. I'm showing them that they let me take this gap semester and then gonna have to show them some KPIs, like keep on taking time off of school, but I'm loving it right now.

• 28:27Sam Parr?

  I hope you listen to this. Hey, kids or parents, your kid's amazing. This is, he's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna turn out alright. It's gonna turn out more than alright, I think.

• 28:36Shaan Puri?

  There's a kid at F, at F Inc. where you're at right now, that office you're at right now, there's a kid there, uh, he's not a kid anymore. His name's Johnny Dallas. Um, and he was in eighth grade when he started working with us and he started in the summer and then he started working every day after school. And then I think in 11th grade or so, it was pretty clear, this guy is awesome and he should just work here full time. And we made him an offer and his mom was freaking out, couldn't, I can't, my son's gonna be a high school dropout. This is crazy. He's like, no, no, no, he's gonna test out. He's gonna graduate. He's gonna get his GED. And, um, what I convinced her of was he's not dropping out. He's going pro. The same way LeBron James went pro because he had incredible skills. And that reframe, I gotta tell you, that was some of my best work with that mom on a bench in a park convincing her

• 29:20Shaan Puri?

  that he's going pro. He's not dropping out. And then we got him to, got him to go full time with us.

• 29:23Sam Parr?

  Got you, got you. Dude, congratulations on your success. Good job. And thank you for letting us listen. And, uh, you're the man.

• 29:33Sam Parr?

  Um, all right. What do we have next?

• 29:36Speaker 08

  I'm Nathan Schatz, co-founder of Millu, and we are creating personalized skincare that's built for your microbiome. My journey with microbiology began when I was eight, after I had a life-threatening encounter with a flesh-eating bacteria. This experience sparked a fascination with the world of microbes like bacteria and fungi. Since then, I've been driven to understand how the skin microbiome, which is the trillions of microbes living on our bodies, affects human health. Let me paint you a picture. Think of the skin microbiome as a city, a complex community of microbes, each with a unique job, just like these little guys on the screen. In our skin city, some help manage inflammation, others retain moisture, and some even fight off viruses. This microbiome is unique to each person, like a fingerprint,

• 30:21Speaker 08

  and its well-being is essential for healthy and beautiful skin. But here's the problem. Many common skincare products contain preservatives and harsh chemicals that are detrimental to your skin microbiome. Using these is like dropping a nuke on your microbiome city, leading to chaos and any number of skin problems. Acne, dryness, anti-aging, and other common skin concerns drive a $150 billion industry, yet most products rely on an outdated one-size-fits-all approach that overlooks our unique biology. This leads to a frustrating cycle of trial and error where consumers waste their time and their money looking for the right product for their skin, often to no avail. People need skincare that is

• 31:03Speaker 08

  hyper-personalized, and that is why Milieu is different. We create skincare that works with your unique microbiome. So here's how we're changing the game. Meet the Milieu Biome Sense System. This is a comprehensive solution that combines microbiome science, AI, and personalization to meet your skin's unique needs. It starts with our at-home microbiome collection kit. Simply swab your skin, mail it back to us, and complete a short survey about your skin concerns, lifestyle, and habits. In our lab three miles west of here, we analyze your microbiome sample. Our AI-powered algorithm then integrates this data with your survey responses to create a personalized skin insights report along

• 31:45Speaker 08

  with custom formulations, a serum and a cleanser designed just for you. As you use our products, Milieu adapts. Through retests and reformulations, we ensure that your skincare evolves with your skin's changing needs, restoring microbiome balance for lasting skin health. Plus, our plantable boxes and recyclable packaging reflect our commitment to sustainability. Milieu offers high-quality personalized skincare for $59.95, which includes the test kit, analysis, and custom products. And with a $16.95 monthly subscription, you get refills and retests as needed. We are pioneering a science-driven, personalized approach to skincare, and we're currently inviting new members to join our beta program. Please visit our website to

• 32:29Speaker 08

  learn more and join us in making personal care truly about you. Thank you for that. Hey, hold on, brother. Keep that up. I'm gonna try it. Go for it. There you go.

• 32:39Sam Parr?

  This is pretty cool. When I thought microbiome, Sean, what did you immediately think?

• 32:43Shaan Puri?

  I thought it was gut.

• 32:44Sam Parr?

  Yeah, I thought it was gut and poop. I was like, do I gotta, I gotta poop at a thing? And you're gonna give me a thing to help my skin, but that's, I didn't know that skin microbiome was a thing. That's pretty baller.

• 32:53Shaan Puri?

  How's your skincare routine?

• 32:55Sam Parr?

  In, uh, you know, body wash that goes on my armpits also goes on my face. It's not very good, but I'm, I'm bought into the idea that it is important and I, I, I do want to get better. So this is interesting to me. Do you have any revenue at all?

• 33:09Speaker 08

  No revenue. We're currently in development. We're doing beta testing.

• 33:13Shaan Puri?

  Okay, gotcha. And, uh, really smooth pitch, by the way. You are a talker. That was really well done.

• 33:20Shaan Puri?

  Okay, so let's give some thoughts on this.

• 33:22Sam Parr?

  So, dude, by the way, his deck, Sean, was great. Those, those cartoons, they told the story wonderfully.

• 33:27Shaan Puri?

  Yeah. Who made, who made all that? You made that?

• 33:29Speaker 08

  The, the deck and the story?

• 33:31Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 33:31Speaker 08

  No one made it. That's just my story.

• 33:34Sam Parr?

  Well, it made itself. The graphics are cool.

• 33:38Speaker 08

  Oh, the deck, yeah. Uh, my, my co-founder Ron and I worked on it. And then we also workshopped it with like a bunch of other students in the community, so.

• 33:46Shaan Puri?

  Gotcha. Okay. Um, you know, one thing I think that would help you is, um, this type of story, I think would go viral on TikTok. Like basically what you told us, if you were like, um, I used to think skincare routine. Well, I, I used to think, you know, I, whatever. I didn't care about my skin. And then I got a flesh-eating bacteria. This is me after my trip to Costa Rica. And you show a picture, you're like, um, so here's what I did to get rid of this. And while never look at any of these skincare products, the same again, knock over a bunch of bottles on a table, right? You do something like that, you're gonna get like 2 million views on a TikTok. You can actually include that in this, which is gonna be like, we know how to tell our story and get out there.

• 34:25Shaan Puri?

  And that that story resonates with people, that people are looking for something that's more personalized, that's actually science-based and not just, you know, a fancy brand. And we're gonna use content to our advantage. And that's how we're gonna have much cheaper customer acquisition, right? The smart brands in the D to C space are basically content-first right now. They know how to tell their story on TikTok and Instagram and YouTube. And that's where they're getting just like a, a sort of runaway growth compared to everybody else who just doing very basic static ads on Facebook type of thing.

• 34:57Speaker 08

  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we observed that many of our competitors sunk a ton of their initial revenue into advertising. And so we're looking at sort of a different go to market strategy. We want to please 50 people in our beta testing. We want to work like very closely with a smaller group of people to make sure that our product and our algorithm is really working the way that it's supposed to before we go like mass market. But I like the idea of doing short form content because I know that definitely hits with with the younger audience, which is target market.

• 35:25Sam Parr?

  Who's your competitors? So are there other people doing this?

• 35:28Speaker 08

  Well, there's no one that's doing exactly what we're doing. There are skincare companies that do microbiome testing, and there are also personalized skincare companies. The biggest skin microbiome company currently is Parallel Health, and they offer a 200 a month protocol where they do sequencing on your skin microbiome, super high market, high end product. There's a company that's successful. They've been in business for seven years now called Proven Health. They were actually, sorry, no, it's Proven Skincare. They're on Shark Tank. And they do personalized skincare that's based off of a quiz only. So we have a quiz and we have microbiome testing. So we're sort of the baby between those two ideas.

• 36:08Sam Parr?

  A lot of times with health stuff, health stuff or skin, anything involving your body, that's very, it's very controversial because there's always, there's a bunch of people who love something typically, and then there's an equal or more amount of haters, which doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. It's just health is very controversial. What would the haters say about this? Like, would they say like, dude, microbiome stuff, it's not actually important. If you just use these three things, it's going to do most of the job. You don't need to worry about this other stuff. Like, what are the haters going to say about you?

• 36:36Speaker 08

  I'd say the biggest liability there is that the the skin microbiome field is actually very nascent. So the, basically, we're testing a hypothesis. We believe that skincare that's precisely tailored to your microbiome is better than the traditional methods out there. I think people would likely continue to hold on to this societal idea that all bacteria is bad, or like, we need to stay in this sort of sanitized mindset. Like, people really like to feel clean. And so I think that that's the biggest objection to this is like, we love germs.

• 37:06Shaan Puri?

  We want to harness the power of the germs that are on your face and we believe they hold a lot of potential. So people might be like, oh, it's gross, but you know, it's just science. Science is gross.

• 37:15Sam Parr?

  Well, I, I, I like, I think the criticism, I'm an idiot, but I pay attention to health stuff. I think the criticism is like, uh, you know, that's like, uh, that, that thing will just move the needle by 1%, whereas if you do these other things, it's mostly going to get you there and be perfect. Do you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying, Sean?

• 37:33Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, 100%. It's like in health stuff. You can listen to Huberman for 92 hours and suddenly you're, or Brian Johnson or whatever, you're trying to take 42 supplements a day. But 80 to 90% of the gains are going to come from like, you know, good sleep, drink water, eat clean whole foods. And if you just do those things and you're not, you're probably not already doing those things, that'll get you the bulk of it. The rest is really like, you know, on the edge optimizations. And I think you're right, Sam, that, you know, sort of a smart skeptic would probably, have that thought, but I don't think that's what's going to drive success or failure in this case. So I think actually one thing you were missing from your pitch is to convince me that people care about hyper-personalization.

• 38:12Shaan Puri?

  And that that's where the puck is going. And really what you want in a pitch is for this to feel like an inevitable outcome of what's, what's happening here, of what's happening in this space, whether it's you or somebody else, that's sort of secondary, but you really want to convince investors of two things. One, inevitably this is where the puck is going and that inevitably we are going to be the ones who take advantage, score when that puck gets there, right? So you kind of need to make two cases when you make a pitch. And so for example, I know that in hair care and kind of beauty products, makeup products, there's a lot of this already. The trend has gone in this direction where, isn't it like they, you do quizzes and you figure out, oh, I have curly hair and my problem is that it's, dry. And then for that, you're going to get a certain product.

• 38:55Shaan Puri?

  And I think what you would want to show is that the companies that came out in the last wave for beauty products, that went the personalization route have outperformed, have had all these really great exits, but nobody's done it for skincare yet, but they will. And here's what they're, here's what's going to happen in skincare. The same thing that just happened in makeup and hair is going to happen for skin, right? Same thing that just happened in vitamins is going to happen for skin. And that makes it sort of feel inevitable. Oh my God, he's right. There, the next wave of successful skincare companies are going to use this kind of science-based, hyper-personalized thing. That I think was missing from your pitch. So that's kind of my feedback for you.

• 39:30Sam Parr?

  Thank you. That's good. That's very good feedback.

• 39:34Sam Parr?

  I thought you did a great job telling the story. I'm still, I'm still trying to understand what, I already asked that question, but like the other answers could have been like, uh, everyone agrees that this is right, but the, the question that we're trying to figure out is can we or anyone even figure this out? Like, I wanted to figure out like, what's gonna be, what does this all hinge on? Because if you're talking like on a beta, like what's, what is this? What are you having to convince the world that, that, that needs to happen in order for this to be a massive breakthrough?

• 40:02Shaan Puri?

  Let me ask you a very simple question. Do you believe, let's assume it works. Do you believe that it's gonna be a visually different result? Meaning if I just showed you two pictures, one person who's using your thing and one person who's just using off the shelf stuff. Honest question, do you think it's gonna be where I could just point and go, yeah, that's clearly better? Cause if it is, then all your marketing is gonna work that way. And if it's not, then the whole, the science kind of actually in the world of supplements and, and vitamins and creams. Let's be honest, nobody has a clue if any of this shit actually works. Um, and so then it's all just a branding game. It's all a marketing game. It's all who's can convince the consumer that what, that if you buy this product, you'll be more beautiful and everyone will love you and think, you know, things will go well for you in life, right?

• 40:46Shaan Puri?

  And so I think we're kind of, unless it's literally visual where you can see the difference and it's gonna be inarguable, then it's just a question of are you gonna be a great marketer? L'Oréal, why is L'Oréal successful? It's not because we know that their, their product scientifically is better than anybody else's products. It's because they're better marketers. That's the reality of the situation.

• 41:08Speaker 08

  Yeah, we, we certainly recognize that. Um, we definitely want to sort of latch into the, the trend towards clean and sustainable beauty, which is why we made a box that you can plant in the ground and it grows flowers. We think it's really like, the beauty's in the details here. So I absolutely agree with you. Before and after pictures are like, one of the best things that we can get. And the results of our beta testing are currently looking very promising. But, uh, before I start to make claims and put those pictures on the website, I want to do like really, really thorough analysis of how the products are working, how the algorithm's working, to make sure that we have something that is, it's really solid.

• 41:44Sam Parr?

  All right, brother, we appreciate you. Congratulations on this and, and solid pitch. We gotta go to the next one.

• 41:49Shaan Puri?

  Great job.

• 41:50Speaker 08

  Thank you.

• 41:58Sam Parr?

  Is Brother Nuts, is that who's up next?

• 42:03Speaker 09

  It is, yeah. Hey guys, my name's Austin Majors. I'm the co-founder of Brothers Nuts. Here at Brothers Nuts, our mission is to kick the fake food to the curb and revolutionize healthy snacking with organic, sprouted nut and seed snacks. So first off, my family found that half of the snacks out there weren't actually healthy and the other half tasted like garbage. But first off, why did we create this business? Well, our business started back in 2010, actually, when my father was diagnosed with stage four brain cancer. He was given seven weeks to live and through the changes in diet and lifestyle, turned that seven weeks into seven years. But one of the biggest issues him and my family had was finding a snack that was as healthy as it was tasty. And so our current day CFO, AKA Chief Flavor Officer,

• 42:47Speaker 09

  AKA Mom, being the amazing mom that she is, went into work and created what is now known as the Crackle Cheesy Almonds. Now, my family and my friends were astonished to see that these were as healthy as they were flavorful, but also very crunchy. And that's what makes us very different. All of our nuts and seeds are sprouted. But how's it gone over the last seven years? So I started this company when I was 13 years old when my father passed away with my older brother who was 15. And over the last seven years, we've done over a million dollars in sales. We've sold over a million dollars worth of nuts. We're currently available in 200 retail locations and the future is very promising. We have a clear path forward over the next four years to take this business to $10 million in sales and be a national brand. How are we gonna do that? We're gonna do that by doing the hard work that no one else wants to do.

• 43:32Speaker 09

  And I know no one else wants to do it because I speak to these stores and no one else is doing it. So what is that? First of all, it's expanding and making more money from our current clients. Clients like Fresh Time, Mom's Grading Market, Fresh Market. But it's also expanding distribution and getting new grocery stores like Whole Foods, Sprouts, HEB, key accounts. How are we gonna grow within those stores? We're gonna continue shaking hands, doing what I just did for you guys, telling my story, having people try the product and letting people know that there's something out there like this. And last, we're gonna continue innovating through our product. Right now, we're developing a clean chocolate almond and we also have a, we're developing a high protein variant of our most popular flavors, something that's never been done in this space.

• 44:15Speaker 09

  Now, kind of more grand scale, I mean, there's 62,000 grocery stores. The nut market's selling $10 billion this year. I look at the biggest companies out there and we can absolutely get there. But what's really cool is we are on the up and up. Seed oil free, wear that. Sprouted, gluten free, gut friendly. We check all of the boxes. Finally, something that my dad did in 2010 is now mainstream. And we are on the cutting edge of it. In the last period over period, products labeled sprouted grew 34% in their velocities in sales. We are on the up and up. But let's remember why we're doing this. Look, the reason why we're able to have the success, why we're able to land these retailers, get through these gatekeepers is because we're doing this and every sale that we're making

• 44:57Speaker 09

  and milestone, it's contributing to continuing my father's legacy. Everything we're doing is to grow his legacy and to create my own along with my brothers. Because we know that by changing what people snack on every single day will lead them to live longer, better, healthier lives with their families. And so if you're ready to join us to kick the fake food to the curb and evolve the way you snack, I'd love to talk to you.

• 45:26Shaan Puri?

  Dude, that was, that was great, man. I got goosebumps. What amazing story. Good, good for you, dude. I'm really happy to hear about this.

• 45:35Sam Parr?

  Austin, I just placed a $52 order. I'm going to try the cheesy ones, the garlic ones and the spicy basil pumpkin seeds. So let's see what you're about.

• 45:42Speaker 09

  We'll throw some extra stuff in there for you.

• 45:45Shaan Puri?

  This is great. So you, you're in some stores today. Can you just give us the basic rundown? So how many stores are you currently in and is that one chain or multiple? What's going on?

• 45:53Speaker 09

  Yeah, so it's multiple chains. Our very first store that gave us our shot was Fresh Time Market. There are about 70 stores across the Midwest. I mean, the story with that is my brother cold called the CEO, got a cold, got a call back in the lunchroom of the senior year of high school. We sat down with the team, got three stores, proved ourselves in three stores. They gave us 30. We proved ourselves again, they gave us 70. Stores only give you those, that, that many, allow you to expand if you're selling well. So after we had that success story, we went out and we targeted smaller chains like Moms Agric Market on the East Coast, the Fresh Market, which we're starting off small with. And with that data, we've, we're now going to new stores. Like we met with Whole Foods, we got a yes from them, we got pushed back, we're fighting to get a bigger and better yes. And we have a huge meeting with Sprouts tomorrow, actually.

• 46:38Shaan Puri?

  Wow. And so, and what was the, what's the revenue so far?

• 46:41Speaker 09

  Yeah, so since inception over the last seven years, we've sold over a million dollars worth of nuts. This year alone, we'll do 400,000, last year 200,000, and next year with some of the launches that we're planning, we'll do probably closer to 2 million.

• 46:56Shaan Puri?

  And what do the retailers tell you? So that, that Fresh Time, that you're in, you're, sorry, you're in 70 stores with them, or they have 70 stores?

• 47:03Speaker 09

  No, we're in all 70 of their stores. We're in a total of 200 retail stores across the country, from some of those bigger players and some just smaller one-off stores, health food stores, golf courses.

• 47:14Shaan Puri?

  And like, you know, the way that retail works is they need to see the velocity of, you know, how much you're selling on the shelf at their stores for you to get into more stores. And so what data do you have? And is that currently a strength? Is it a weakness? What, what's going on with the current cycle, cycle rate, or whatever they call it, for retail consumption?

• 47:33Speaker 09

  Yeah, so the velocities and the data is the biggest thing. So our product is incredibly unique in that we are one of the only ones who offer a product like ours. We have very few competitors, I can name them. And so what we have to do is, of course, first demonstrate a gap on the shelf. Hey, you are not, you don't have any nut flavored nut options that are organic, sprouted, and then contain no seed oils. So first we have to do that, and then we just show, share the data. I mean, our velocities, if they were bad, if that was an issue, we, Fresh Time would not have let us go from 3 to 30 to 70 stores. They came to us. We didn't have to approach them on that. We were just killing it so much.

• 48:09Shaan Puri?

  Okay, okay, fair, fair enough. I feel like you answered a question that should be answered in numbers with letters. That's okay. All right, so here's the problem that I have with this business. I like, I like your name, I like your story, I really want to try your nuts, all right? But here's the problem. When I go to your TikTok,

• 48:32Shaan Puri?

  I see 50 followers. And when you're young, you have a lot of disadvantages. You're not going to have the same level of experience. You're not going to have the same amount of funding and resources. You're not going to have the supply chain experience that you're going to, that your competitors all have.

• 48:48Shaan Puri?

  But you do have a story and what you should be is amazing at social media. There, you should be telling your story on social media. You should be getting people excited about this and taking that to the retailers and saying, "Look, we're this young, exciting brand that consumers really care about and consumers are excited about." And you don't have an option like that. You're, you're, the nut shelf for you guys is stale. It's just Blue Diamond and it's the same old brands that do the same old thing. And they're not, they're not on, on trend. They're not CDO free, they're not whatever, right? You have that story, but you're, you need the social side to be kick ass. Because social just takes creativity. It doesn't take money. And you're part of the generation that should be better at this than whoever the CEO of Blue Diamond is.

• 49:31Shaan Puri?

  They, they're, you know, their social strategy is obviously going to be pretty boring. And so I think that's where you're dropping the ball. And that's what you're going to need to get into retail. Because I've talked to retailers and what they care about is they need to, they need to believe that you are going to help drive traffic to the store or that customers care about your brand and that they're, they're adding young, hot brands to the shelf. That's, that's what you need as your story. So I think that's what's missing for me right now.

• 49:57Speaker 09

  Absolutely. Yeah.

• 49:58Sam Parr?

  Who, uh, with the family business like this, do you and your brother, are you the two owners? Or is your mother involved? Who, who owns the company?

• 50:05Speaker 09

  Yeah. So my brother and I are 50/50 owners. Uh, we do have my mom, who is our chief flavor officer. She's in charge of making sure the nuts taste as good as they do. I mean, she's the original person who created these recipes and we just took them and started selling them.

• 50:18Sam Parr?

  Dude, this is awesome. Congratulations. I am, I'm bought in with Sean as well on the story. The story was very good. I saw your about page. I saw the personality. I was like, all right, this is definitely going to be something interesting. I'm now a customer. I'm very eager to try it, but this is pretty badass.

• 50:33Shaan Puri?

  Sam, do you remember the name of that nuts brand that, um, he's kind of like on Twitter? He might be.

• 50:37Sam Parr?

  Nutty Nerds?

• 50:39Shaan Puri?

  Is that it? It's like a peanut butter brand, right?

• 50:41Sam Parr?

  Yeah, they do, uh, many figures a year in revenue.

• 50:45Shaan Puri?

  Many eight figures, so tens of millions of dollars in revenue. Yeah. Have you, have you looked at these guys, Austin? Yeah, I'm familiar with them.

• 50:54Sam Parr?

  And I think they just got popular on social media. And their shtick is different than yours. Theirs is like the opposite of, of, yeah, it's like indulge versus what you're trying to do. But you do have, like, I've invested in a bunch of these, like, uh, seed oil or, uh, seed oil free companies. Um, I think TBD if it's going to be mainstream yet, but it definitely seems like it might be. Uh, but this is like super fascinating. You have a lot of tailwinds, uh, to help you out here for sure.

• 51:23Shaan Puri?

  I think you want to include that in your pitch, by the way. So, um, you know, an investor doesn't really know how big a nut's brand can be. And your numbers, while, you know, I'm not saying that they're bad, they are on the small side for like an e-commerce company, right? So you, if you're, you know, we've done a million dollars across seven years. Okay, that's not, that's not huge. I think you got to paint a picture that this can actually be really big.

• 51:45Sam Parr?

  I looked up Blue Diamonds, by the way. Blue Diamonds says about, uh, 1.8 billion a year in revenue.

• 51:49Shaan Puri?

  Correct. So I would show, uh, the nut category is huge and, you know, you have, Blue Diamond does 1.8 billion in sales a year. The next one does this, next one does this. And we would use this phrase on MFM that there's a sea of sameness. They all, you walk down that aisle and it's all old brands. There's not one challenger brand. And all of them have the same problem that they're, they're lacking X, Y, Z. We have fresh packaging. We're a challenger brand. We have, we have a better story. We're hot on social media. So I think you need that part of the story and I would include others like Nerdy Nuts. And I would show examples of others who have come into this category and are doing very well. And how you're the next in line. Again, it's that sort of air of inevitability that you want to paint.

• 52:33Shaan Puri?

  And so when you don't have the traction that shows that your own trajectory is inevitable, you want to show the inevitability of a category, of a change. Um, some of the things you talked about, about. You know, sprouted products are growing 34% year over year in these stores. You know, that's kind of like you want slides there because it feels like every category now has a sprouted product and the sprouted products are overperforming. Guess what? Nuts doesn't have a sprouted product. We are that sprouted nut, right? And so you want to paint that picture for the investor. But really good overall. And honestly, I actually think of all the business we heard today, I think this is probably the one that could be the biggest. Yeah. But I don't think you're using your strengths. And I think if you keep going on the same path you're going, it won't be huge.

• 53:19Shaan Puri?

  But you're still young and you have time to change. If you actually like take some of the feedback and do it, I think this could actually be a lot bigger. Awesome. Thank you so much, Chad.

• 53:27Sam Parr?

  Uh, thank you, man. You're the best. Um, awesome majors. Thank you very much. All right, we have the last one from University of Michigan, right?

• 53:34Speaker 10

  All right. Hi, Sam, Sean, MFM fam. We are tour the EA powered salesperson for property managers. Today, only 4% of apartment prospects that ever land on an apartment website actually end up taking the in-person tour. And it's no surprise that the in-person tour is the highest converting part of the apartment sales process. I mean, there's nothing like someone giving you a guided experience of something you're about to buy.

• 53:59Speaker 11

  But when 96% of the potential prospects that hit your digital storefront never get the chance to experience your tour, the highest converting sales moment in the apartment process? Well, leads get missed.

• 54:10Speaker 10

  Yeah, these leads gets missed and these apartments are left with hundreds of thousands of dollars of missed opportunities and unleased vacancies that could have been filled if these prospects took a tour.

• 54:20Speaker 11

  That is until the apartment installs tour. Tour helps apartments like Arbor Apartments scale Mariana, their digital salesperson. Mariana doesn't have enough time to tour every single prospect that visits the property in person, much less all the prospects that visit the property online.

• 54:35Speaker 10

  But what if we could recreate Mariana's best in-person tour and replicate up that on the website? So that Mariana is on the website for all prospects 24/7.

• 54:44Speaker 11

  Our property manager just pasted a link to an apartment website. We scraped the website and generated video scripts that help Mariana with the infrastructure to record the tour and scrape, combine it all together with the knowledge base into a smart virtual leasing agent.

• 54:57Speaker 10

  Once the tour is ready, all the company has to do is paste a little piece of code on the website and now Mariana is on the website 24/7. And when a prospect goes on the website and starts to browse, we're actually learning about that prospect through small digital micro-interactions and Mariana can pop out of the right-hand corner of the website at the perfect time and ask them if they'd like to take a tour. Once in the tour, Mariana can teach them about the apartment and even offer to give them a tour of like a specific floor plan or a specific amenity that we deem appropriate for them. Mariana can also ask correct qualifying questions for that prospect such as would you like to take an in-person tour or would you like to schedule a call back, all while driving engagement and increasing appointments booked.

• 55:36Speaker 11

  Now, replicating that in-person tour for these apartments can drive nearly 3X the engagement and create more qualified leads for the apartment. We know this because we're working with some of the largest property managers in the nation and in the spirit of the podcast, we delivered our first million tours and helped drive over $30 million worth of leases for the apartment. Additionally, this has helped us get to reach over $1 million in revenue.

• 56:00Speaker 10

  And that's not all, guys. Do you remember those videos that we recorded of Mariana earlier? Well, now, those are one of the biggest assets for the apartments. Tour automatically repurposes those videos to follow up with leads and automatically run TikTok, Meta, and Google Ad campaigns.

• 56:14Speaker 11

  Look, Shopify has set the experience. With the advent of Shopify, online shopping for everyday commodities is compelling visual video first, but larger purchases like shopping for an apartment online, otherwise known as leasing, still remain stuck with static photos, manual scheduling, and follow-ups. But that ends today with Tour. That's right. This shopping online for apartments is nearly 2X larger than all other forms of e-commerce combined.

• 56:45Speaker 10

  That's right, guys. This is the $2.5 trillion industry in which property managers rely on their tour to close over 80% of their sales. We're a passionate, driven team who has designed and delivered some of the best experiences to the best companies in the world, including Growth at Ramp and Google Shopping. We started on campus to solve our own problems and our own shopping journey. We got into YC and are just getting started with solving it for millions of more with tour, the AI salesperson for property Matt.

• 57:10Sam Parr?

  All right, all right, all right, all right. That's pretty great. So you've raised money already, or what?

• 57:17Speaker 11

  Yeah, we've raised about 350 to 400K so far, but largely been bootstrapped. We've had many interesting moments throughout the journey, but you know, we've been really focused on getting the product experience as good for our customers as possible.

• 57:32Sam Parr?

  Can I tell you, I used to work in this industry a long time ago. Can I tell you like the three reasons why I think this could fail and you could tell me how I'm wrong? The first, I think that there is this thing called Matterport that existed for a long time. I know Airbnb tested it on their website and I used to be an Airbnb owner and when they had these, Matterport made these like realistic models of what your apartment looked like.

• 57:56Shaan Puri?

  Like a 3D virtual tour?

• 57:57Sam Parr?

  Yeah, similar to this. And they found that it decreased

• 58:02Sam Parr?

  conversion. And the main thing being is that a lot of apartments for rent are shit. And like, it's like, dude, just like, I just need to get someone in the door. And once they're in the door, I can like, like do some salesmanship to sell them. But like, online, it looks pretty shitty in a 3D way. The other one being that there's like, right now, I don't know, do apartments need to be filled at the moment? Like, it seems like a lot of these folks are like, dude, I'm killing it right now. My vacancy is quite low. Why should I spend money to do this work? And the last one being is a lot of apartments that you need, I would imagine, to do sales on, the apartments are kind of shitty and I don't want someone to see them online. I need them to see them in real life so I can sell you on it. And you know, it's, you know what I mean?

• 58:47Sam Parr?

  It's like, I don't want like a user video of like a 1994 Honda Civic, but if I get you here and you're like, dude, I got a thousand dollars. I'm like, this shit box is for you. And I don't need a video for that. You know what I mean? And so can you like refute some of those points?

• 58:59Speaker 11

  Yeah, I mean, I think you're absolutely right. Matterport is one of our comps. You know, they're doing 500, they're still doing 540 million dollars per year. They are a public comp, but the big thing that they do that's different, or that we do that's different is we're-

• 59:11Sam Parr?

  You're telling me that Matterport does 500 million in revenue?

• 59:14Speaker 11

  Yes, yes. Now, the big thing that is, to put it in perspective, the big thing that we do that's different is two things. The first thing is, we are fundamentally an active experience that's partnered with the apartment to funnel someone down the wholesale funnel. From the first moment they meet them, to following up on email, following up targeting, and that allows us to hit a large, much larger market than Matterport even does today. And then the other thing that I think you talked about, which is like, the nature of most of these apartments, you know, fundamentally being not necessarily like, maybe old drab experiences. I think the first thing is, look, things change. Apartments are becoming one of the largest purchases we make. It is one of the largest purchases we make. And like, these are becoming more commoditized, they're becoming more amenitized.

• 59:56Speaker 11

  I mean, the whole future is going into an experience economy, and I think the experience is going to be a very important part of our Gen Z, or even millennial shop. So I think that experience is a very important part. We see that because a lot of our tours, we've delivered over a million tours. Many of them are international, out of state. And these are important decisions that people are on the edge on which different shops, you know, different shops that they, or different apartments they might want to work with. Now, for example, one apartment might want to have a virtual leasing advantage compared to others. And that's why we help fundamentally become part of that virtual leasing advantage. And then the last element, I know, Kishan, you want to say something, is just that we're also augmenting the sales force, right? So there's a frontline sales in most of these businesses are fundamentally high churn.

• 1:00:41Speaker 11

  There's people leaving the building all the time. If we can help augment their sales team, we have a much larger staying power with the actual property, not just a one-off virtual tour.

• 1:00:51Speaker 10

  And one thing I'd like to add is that Matterport, their essential goal is to communicate the physical establishment to the customer. And obviously, we do that. But what we're trying to do is to augment the website to better communicate that, as well as segment leads, so that they know how to allocate their resources best to the highest intent leads. So that's another area where they save money by better allocating resources.

• 1:01:12Shaan Puri?

  And the tour that you give, sorry, I might have missed this during the thing, or like, I don't know, maybe you have a demo. Is it just a girl talking and photos? Or is it like a walking tour that you generate? Or do you go film it first? What is the actual thing? Okay, here's the video.

• 1:01:29Speaker 10

  Yeah, we go and film it.

• 1:01:30Speaker 11

  So we have two elements. We either have a video pro network that can help film it, or we're building more and more scripts that you can easily start filming it from your phone. iPhone 16 is like rivals Sony cameras.

• 1:01:41Shaan Puri?

  Gotcha. So this is not AI-generated. This is like a video you guys make?

• 1:01:45Speaker 11

  Yes, yes. And then we take the knowledge base, as well as the media, and supply that throughout the whole sales process.

• 1:01:51Speaker 10

  Got it.

• 1:01:52Shaan Puri?

  Okay, cool. So you guys go film a video when an apartment starts to work with you, and then you have the AI wrapper around it where it's chat, it's Q and A, it's scheduling appointment, it's following up with a targeted ad, it's things like that. That's what you guys do after that?

• 1:02:06Speaker 11

  Exactly.

• 1:02:07Shaan Puri?

  Okay, cool. And the 450K of ARR that you have right now, that's from how many customers?

• 1:02:15Speaker 11

  That's from 130 property managers, usually around the price point of $300, somewhere 250, somewhere paying more.

• 1:02:22Shaan Puri?

  And how'd you get the 100 whatever property managers?

• 1:02:25Speaker 11

  So the cool thing is, we have a land and expand motion. So once we're inside a property manager, usually they manage many properties, large apartment buildings. What we do is, we demonstrate our results, and most of our other property management companies start expanding within the property managers. So one property manager inside a company refers us to some of her additional properties in her portfolio, or some of the other regional property managers.

• 1:02:48Shaan Puri?

  So how will you go from a hundred something properties today to a thousand or 10,000 in the next year? What are you gonna do?

• 1:02:56Speaker 10

  So one of the big things we've been trying recently is automatically generating tours so that we can demonstrate value to apartments before we even have to like go in person because obviously that's a large cost of like videotaping the actual apartment. So we can immediately just scrape the website, pull some images, use flux to kind of turn the images into a somewhat of a mock video, pull some information from their website and generate a tour that can act to segment leads on the website and then they can kind of see the value of it. Oh, a tour lead came in. This is a high intent lead. Let's follow up on it. And then from there, if they're pleased by the value, then we can actually go out and record that video, making the tour even better.

• 1:03:29Shaan Puri?

  Okay, so you're gonna go, you're gonna auto generate these videos as a prototype, as a sample, and then you're gonna cold email them and say, hey, we could do this for you guys?

• 1:03:37Speaker 10

  Cold email referral, yep.

• 1:03:39Shaan Puri?

  Okay, and then what, do you guys run an A/B test? So do you, on any of your apartment websites, do you show if you have us installed versus if you don't have us installed? What's the difference in revenue?

• 1:03:51Speaker 11

  Yeah, absolutely. So what we noticed is when it comes to the actual properties, like the amount of value we generate for the properties, it's usually an additional 300,000 to 500,000 dollars in leases. Now specifically, we do three things really importantly that leads to like these fundamental items. The first thing is we deliver four times number of tours. Prospects who are on the website get three times engagement. And also the leads that we end up capturing just obviously are going to be more qualified, right? And so those leases convert at a higher rate.

• 1:04:22Shaan Puri?

  Okay, gotcha. That's pretty convincing. If you told me, hey, however many tours you're giving per week right now, I could 4X that if you add this thing to your website. That's a pretty compelling proposition, don't you think, Sam?

• 1:04:36Speaker 10

  Yes, I still think that there's a bunch of the-

• 1:04:40Sam Parr?

  I think there's a bunch of other questions related to the things that I said, but that is compelling. I think that I just, I think I'm scarred from this industry of like selling to these companies and how hard it is and how old school some of these. Like, have you guys noticed that about how old school your customers are? And it's like the two customers that we've had in this presentation or in this section have been

• 1:05:03Sam Parr?

  campuses or colleges and apartment buildings. And I'm like, oh my God, those are like both really, really, really hard. Have you guys noticed that when you're selling to these apartment companies that they're a pain in the ass to work with?

• 1:05:15Speaker 11

  It definitely is old guard and, and you know, things change, you know, ever so often. But I think they're realizing how important it is, like particularly when they're looking at like e-commerce and how things are evolving. It's important for them to be extremely competitive advantage. And so just the nature of competition has really been trying to somewhat push the.

• 1:05:32Sam Parr?

  They're just slow. They're really slow.

• 1:05:34Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, I do think though, again, back to that idea of like, you want to make this feel inevitable. I think it is, there's a clear line you could draw where you say, look, if you were a apartment building and back, you know, 15 years ago, you might've been able to get away without having a website. But about 15 years ago, you now had to have a website. Okay. You had to have a website. You had to be findable on Google. That became mandatory table stakes. And then after that, you had to have photos. If you didn't have photos, you were, you were not even competitive, right? You're non-viable. And then you had to have videos and you had to have videos. And then after that, you had to have a booking thing where somebody could schedule a tour without having to call you. That became table stakes. And now 98% of apartment sites all have a way to book a tour online. Well, guess what the next one is?

• 1:06:19Shaan Puri?

  The next one is an AI agent that's helping you book those appointments by either answering questions, upselling you or, you know, putting, putting together a higher quality in a pitch to get in front of you. And that's the next wave of this, like all websites had to go through this. And when the tech made it where it was possible, it just became too competitive. If you didn't have it, you were left in the dust. And that's what's going to happen in this space. All websites are now going to have an AI agent that helps them sell. Agreed. Yeah, I love that show.

• 1:06:48Sam Parr?

  And you guys have done great with your matching zip ups that are nicely merchandised. Congratulations. That's that's step one to being a startup. So you've nailed that one. You've also nailed the revenue thing, too. So congratulations.

• 1:07:03Shaan Puri?

  The million tours is also pretty good and $30 million of leases that came through your appointments. That's that's also.

• 1:07:09Sam Parr?

  That's okay as well.

• 1:07:11Shaan Puri?

  But really, the jackets are fantastic. All right. Thank you, guys.

• 1:07:14Sam Parr?

  You guys are badass. Thank you.

• 1:07:16Shaan Puri?

  Thank you, guys. We kind of grade them on a curve.

• 1:07:20Shaan Puri?

  It's like, if you're already in Y C and you already have like, you know, a million tours done, then.

• 1:07:27Sam Parr?

  Yeah, I kind of feel like these are unfair, to be honest. I feel like if you are in Y C or taking a gap year in San Francisco.

• 1:07:34Shaan Puri?

  Well, I don't know, the gap year that's fine. That's like.

• 1:07:38Sam Parr?

  Do you even go to college if you're in Y C?

• 1:07:40Shaan Puri?

  Well, that's what I'm saying. Those guys put up a team slide and it was like, I have experience at Google, at Yelp, at like all these companies. Like, dude, I thought you were supposed to be like 19 years old. What's going on? Are these even college kids? What's happening? All right, I think we have one more left. The final pitch coming in from Illinois. Who do we got?

• 1:07:57Speaker 12

  Hello, my name is Advi Gupta. I'm the CEO and founder of Pathlit. It's really nice to meet you guys today.

• 1:08:02Sam Parr?

  What's up, brother?

• 1:08:03Shaan Puri?

  Nice to meet you, too.

• 1:08:04Speaker 12

  All right. Until a month ago, we were working on a no-code engine that helped businesses automate their daily tasks with AI. And it was going really well. We were working with extremely large enterprises like the Big Four and had more than $1 million in VC money to accelerate our growth. But the more we work with enterprises, the more we realize that our most valuable automations for them ended up being email-related. They wanted help managing their cluttered inboxes that looked something like this.

• 1:08:33Speaker 12

  A fun story. Our lead investor once told us that she went for a week-long break and had 8,000 unread emails. And a business owner that we were working with told us his employees were spending more time on emails alone than the job they were actually hired to do. And these stories are not one-offs. According to McKinsey, the average employee processes more than 600 emails per week, wasting 13 hours and thousands of business dollars. Despite it being an essential part of our lives, email has become a burden and we find it hard to keep track of even the most important emails in our inbox, often losing them. But according to Industry Select, 86% of business professionals still prefer using emails for some reason. So clearly, we can't get rid of emails.

• 1:09:18Speaker 12

  So what can we do? Well, to solve this exact problem, we are currently building a virtual executive assistant or secretary that handles your emails for you. What if, just like a real secretary, it could learn from you and respond to emails on your behalf? What if, just like a real secretary, it tells you what the most important emails in your inbox are every single morning? And what if, just like a real secretary, it could automatically respond to emails that you don't care about? Well, you can have that secretary because our mobile app does all of that, and we are launching on the App Store next week. And no, we're not joking. We have been actively working with a Big Four customer, netting us six figures in annual revenue, and are starting a pilot with the largest children's enrichment franchise in the world next week.

• 1:10:02Speaker 12

  Not only that, but we have also been working with five global financial institutions and completed an oversubscribed seven-figure raise. We were also fortunate enough to win first place in one of Midwest's largest startup pitch competitions. My name is Advi, and together with my co-founder Mark, we collectively bring more than a decade of experience in AI and building companies. My entire teenage years have been spent building and scaling numerous online security businesses to millions of users, and Mark has tons of AI research and startup experience under his belt. We're now working together to change the way you interact with email today. So join us in helping you reclaim the biggest part of your daily workday. Thank you.

• 1:10:48Sam Parr?

  So, hold on. You, the first five words of your pitch was pretty funny. You said, "Until last month, we were doing this thing." So, let me answer some questions. And then, but then you have a six-figure enterprise contract and you've raised a million dollars. I don't understand. Can you like briefly tell me the-

• 1:11:08Shaan Puri?

  They had a product, they're pivoting. They raised money, they had a customer, but it wasn't the thing. So they're pivoting.

• 1:11:13Sam Parr?

  Is that right? Is that-

• 1:11:14Speaker 12

  Yes, for sure. So I can answer that question.

• 1:11:16Sam Parr?

  Alright.

• 1:11:18Speaker 12

  So essentially, we have, it's the same business. So, we have a, we worked on the generative engine, generative AI engine that we started just this February. So, all the contracts that we have are now converting to the email client. Essentially, we were using our technology to develop email automations for all these businesses, and we had raised money on that. But now, we simply changed the user interface from a workflow builder that looked kind of like Zapier, etc., to more of an assistant email client interface that we found that it works better with enterprise customers.

• 1:11:52Sam Parr?

  Got it. Alright. Because your website doesn't tell that story, but then if you click, you have this folder up top that says "New!" exclamation point, "Our email client," which is pretty cool. That tells that story a little bit better. Understood.

• 1:12:08Shaan Puri?

  Can I give a PSA about the, our team has decades of experience?

• 1:12:11Sam Parr?

  Oh my gosh. I didn't want to get on that, but yeah.

• 1:12:14Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, I guess I gotta say, because a couple of, a couple of the pitches have had that. I don't think you should do that. It, it seems, you know, what you really want in a pitch is to give the vibe to the investor that, "Wait a minute, I think this is even bigger than what they're saying." So, there's this subtle art where you're, you're desperately trying to convince them that this is going to be big and awesome and it's going to work. But you cannot appear to be overselling it. You have to feel like you're underselling it. And then they feel like they're finding some diamond in the rough. And so, you know, how old are you?

• 1:12:46Speaker 12

  I'm 20.

• 1:12:47Shaan Puri?

  You're 20, right? So to be like, we have, you know, a combined 12 years of experience. I think that's a bit of a tell. What you, what you would be better off saying is I started coding when I was eight. By the time I was 12, I had already built blah, blah, blah. And when I was 14, I hacked into my school's thing and changed my grades. And now I've figured out, you know, the, you know, for the last few years, I've really been obsessed and focused with AI. And like, that's a more believable and exciting story for me is like, oh, this is one of those boy geniuses, right? Like, oh, you're one of those like hacker types that started early. I can pattern match and say, yeah, a lot of the best performing founders I know have that same story. And that story works better versus when you tell me, you know, me and my co-founder who are, you know, 18 years old. We've got decades of experience. It's like, no, you don't, right?

• 1:13:32Shaan Puri?

  Okay, now what else can't I believe out of this? Even if it's technically true, the whole like cumulative years of experience of your team is not a real metric that most people put in their pitch deck. So I would, I would get rid of that.

• 1:13:43Speaker 12

  Yes, you're right.

• 1:13:44Shaan Puri?

  Having said that, all right, that's public service announcement. I do have a question. It seems like you've done a great job of selling into people that are really hard to sell into. So how did you go get an enterprise contract from a big four consulting company worth, you know, over a hundred thousand dollars? I'm curious to hear what you did there. What's the short story?

• 1:14:01Speaker 12

  Yeah, very good question. So, um, short story was that I was working as a consultant, um, on campus as part of a university organization. And thanks to my opportunity there, I was able to connect to a very high level business executive within a big four enterprise, um, through my mentor, who happened to also be the director of the consulting org. So long story short, it was very network driven. They were looking for a solution to fit certain problems that they had within an enterprise. And what I was building as a personal project happened to solve those exact problems. So once I had that, we essentially made it a company.

• 1:14:37Sam Parr?

  And what did they say when you're pivoting? I mean, did you pivot because of them?

• 1:14:40Speaker 12

  They are partly the reason we pivoted, but it was also when we started engaging with more and more prospects. So our initial generative AI workflow engine was essentially, you could take AI and plug it into any legacy systems to automate any complex day-to-day task. For example, if you're a VC and you receive a lot of pitch decks every day via email, we could create an automation for you where you would automatically process those pitch decks, analyze them against your investment thesis, portfolio companies, et cetera, and then also send out replies saying, hey, we love this. We would love to have a meeting or no for the following reasons.

• 1:15:16Shaan Puri?

  And what you're describing, is that, sorry, I want you to finish, but is what you're describing similar to Lindy.ai?

• 1:15:22Speaker 12

  Yes, so Lindy.ai was definitely a competitor of ours in that space. But then, as I was saying earlier, the more we engaged with customers and prospects, we found that our product was explicitly being used for email automations. And a big problem with products like our previous one and Lindy AI is that the barrier to entry for a lot of non-technical users is quite high. You have to almost be a developer to actually use even these no-code tools. And that is why we decided to change the interface into a much easier-to-understand virtual assistant or secretary.

• 1:15:55Shaan Puri?

  Gotcha. I think the challenge with this business, because you seem really smart and, you know, I think whatever you work on will be interesting. I think the challenge here is you're going into the most competitive space. So I do feel undoubtedly that email inboxes are going to start to have AI in them, and the AI is going to help you process, categorize, summarize your emails in a way and help you with the responses. The problem is, do I really believe that you are going to be able to get people off of Outlook, off of Gmail and onto your service? Or in addition, you know, they're also going to be doing that, right? Google, Google's definitely going to be adding AI into this, and so is Superhuman, and so is Microsoft, right? They own OpenAI, basically.

• 1:16:38Shaan Puri?

  And so I do think that this is going to be just an absolute bloodbath category. And so I think from an investment point of view, that would be my problem with this, which is even if I like you and even if I agree with the idea, it's kind of that second inevitability I talked about. About one is where's is the puck going this way? There's yes, of course, it's going this way. The second is, are you going to be the team who captures that opportunity? And it just seems highly unlikely that you would be the team that captures that opportunity, given people don't want to switch email clients and that all of the email clients are already aware of this, uh, you know, capability and are, you know, highly incentivized to add AI to it.

• 1:17:12Sam Parr?

  How, did you say how much you raised so far? You said a million?

• 1:17:15Speaker 12

  Yes, we have raised a little more than a million.

• 1:17:17Sam Parr?

  Are you still in school or are you in living in San Francisco?

• 1:17:20Speaker 12

  Um, currently we're on a gap semester, like I'm on a gap semester. Everyone else on the, uh, Mark's also on a gap semester. He has one class left, but everyone else is full time. We have four people.

• 1:17:29Sam Parr?

  Dude, I think like that first company, meet your class. Uh, it's that middle funnel things that that's the issue. All these kids, all these smart kids are bailing on university. That's amazing that you guys are all just like picking gaps.

• 1:17:42Shaan Puri?

  So, well, I just told you that, uh, you're probably going to fail. Tell me why I'm wrong and I should kick rock.

• 1:17:48Speaker 12

  Yeah, for sure. Um, so businesses switching to our email client is definitely a very big hurdle that we were also trying to navigate. But what we found is, um, by verticalizing in a lot of businesses with our own kind of information management secretary, um, a lot of businesses prefer us over their standard email clients like Gmail and Outlook. For example, um, currently, as I said, we're starting a pilot with the largest children's enrichment franchise. They entirely run over Gmail, but they're still willing to switch to us simply because some of the features that we provide is something Gmail and Outlook just can never do because they have to cater to large groups of audiences and they cannot fit specific niches of, uh, certain requirements that a lot of customers have.

• 1:18:32Shaan Puri?

  Okay, uh, all right, fair enough. Um, Sam, what else you got before we wrap up?

• 1:18:37Sam Parr?

  I don't think I have much. I, I think that, um, I think that it's so early. It's hard to ask questions because I'm on your website and it looks like it's very much beta. So it's hard for me to fully understand. I think Sean, you were asking about replacing Gmail. According to their website, it's an integration. It's not replacing Gmail. It's hard to fully understand because you're so new.

• 1:18:57Shaan Puri?

  Is that right? Do you just keep using Gmail and this is overlaid? Or is this a new client you download and you're supposed to go here instead of gmail.com?

• 1:19:05Speaker 12

  Yes, so essentially you just log in with your Gmail. So one way we're beating that barrier to adoption is by not saying that you need a new TLD and a new domain ID. You simply log in with your Gmail, we get all your emails and then you start using our interface rather than Gmail's.

• 1:19:19Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, it's like Superhuman, right? So you keep your email address, but fundamentally you're not supposed to, you know, you're not supposed to go to Gmail every day. You're supposed to go to Superhuman and open up your email and use that for all your emails.

• 1:19:29Speaker 12

  Yes, that is correct.

• 1:19:30Shaan Puri?

  All right. Good pitch. Thank you. Best of luck. You, I think this is a huge idea. I think it's gonna be super competitive and if you did it, that would be amazing. This is a multi-billion dollar win if you can actually do it. That's the good news.

• 1:19:44Speaker 12

  Yeah, thank you.

• 1:19:47Shaan Puri?

  All right. Round of applause.

• 1:19:48Sam Parr?

  Thanks, brother.

• 1:19:54Shaan Puri?

  All right. To wrap it, can we just name, I think, do you guys want to do the winning school that we thought brought the heat? Secondly, our favorite pitch, the best pitch, meaning the one we would be most likely to put our money into. And then the, I think we should maybe do a audience choice as well, which is, you know, let the crowd react and see which one they think is best. What do you think, Sam?

• 1:20:18Sam Parr?

  All right. So let's start with school. I have a winner.

• 1:20:22Shaan Puri?

  Let's recap real quick. Michigan did Meet Your Class, which was helping universities with the summer melt.

• 1:20:29Sam Parr?

  The middle funnel, yeah. Middle funnel for universities.

• 1:20:31Shaan Puri?

  Milu, which is the personalized skincare microbiome stuff. And Tour, which was the AI apartment tours. And then UIUC was basically Meet Metaphrasso, which is the dubbing company, Brothers Nuts, which is the sprouted nuts company, and Pathlet, that one we just heard about email, the AI email client. So those are the schools. Sam, what's your pick?

• 1:20:51Sam Parr?

  Illinois all the way. I think that Michigan's an incredibly impressive school, but I think that.

• 1:21:01Sam Parr?

  I thought that I thought it I thought it was incredibly impressive that the Metaphrasso guy was at was at founders or what's it called the the the way this this young guy who just went the way that he had already raised a little bit of money and was taking a gap year and then Brothers Nuts already has a business that has is doing like 400 a year in revenue. I just thought it was more impressive that a midwestern school their people are like going to the coast and I think that's a really good thing. Do you agree or no?

• 1:21:30Shaan Puri?

  I would disagree. I would have gone Michigan. I think that traction wise, I mean, tour. Let's break the case here. Tour had the most traction, right? Half a million dollars in ARR, a million tours served. I think tour and they're in Y C. I think tour was doing the best. I think Meet Your Class has a real business. I think he stumbled into a kind of a actually like a cool business where half a million people have used this thing and now he found a business model that might actually work. So I thought that Michigan had had the better businesses overall.

• 1:22:03Sam Parr?

  All right, good. They each they

• 1:22:04Shaan Puri?

  We disagree.

• 1:22:05Sam Parr?

  They each could have voted, but we disagree.

• 1:22:08Shaan Puri?

  And it's a tie. All right. So let's do our favorite business out of these. If you were going to invest your money into one of these, Sam, which one would you have invested your money into?

• 1:22:17Sam Parr?

  The business that I don't want to invest in, but I wish I owned, and I think the people should, the people who own this one might get the richest, the fastest of all these businesses is Brother Nuts. I think Austin Major or Brother Nuts. I don't think they should raise money. I don't want to invest in them, but I would love to own that company. I think it could be a family business that makes hundreds or hundreds of millions or even more throughout the next handful of decades.

• 1:22:44Shaan Puri?

  Okay, I like it.

• 1:22:45Sam Parr?

  I would say that's my favorite business.

• 1:22:47Shaan Puri?

  My head tells me it's either Meet Your Class or tour, but my heart is with Brothers Nuts. And I'm gonna go with Brothers Nuts as well. I think that they are one, you know, one step away from actually making this like a real, a legit business that you're gonna see on the shelves in every grocery store. I think they're not far away from doing that. And I actually think it's a, it's, I would, I would actually invest in this business because I think you could actually make it happen. It's not a, it's, it's not theoretical here.

• 1:23:16Sam Parr?

  I think that all the, most of the companies had an AI element and I applaud that. I think that's where, that's where the puck's going. But it's hard to stick out, man. Like we get, I, there's just so much going on.

• 1:23:29Shaan Puri?

  We picked the one with an almond element?

• 1:23:30Sam Parr?

  Yeah, an almond element. Uh, I don't know, man, right? Doesn't it seem, it kinda seems like it's TBD as to like who's gonna be the winners. It seems really hard to, to pick a winner at the moment.

• 1:23:42Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, it's sort of a trade-off of like more competition, but maybe more upside.

• 1:23:46Sam Parr?

  Well, you, you said it well. You said, um, you said, um, this is definitely what's gonna happen, but it's gonna be a bloodbath.

• 1:23:52Shaan Puri?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Sam Parr?

  And that's how I feel.

• 1:23:55Shaan Puri?

  All right. So now the crowd's choice. So can you guys unmute? I'm gonna say the name of the, of the business. Crowd reaction is gonna dictate who wins the, the audience choice. Let's see if this works. I, this might be crazy with, with the audio situation here. Our producer's freaking out. I, turn, turn the laptops. I wanna see the crowd, actually.

• 1:24:14Shaan Puri?

  Okay, so we got the crowd.

• 1:24:18Shaan Puri?

  Yeah, all right. We're gonna start off from Michigan. Meet your class.

• 1:24:29Shaan Puri?

  Okay. From, from UIUC, Metaphraser.

• 1:24:38Shaan Puri?

  All right. Hey, Mike, just be closer to the mic or something. We'll give him credit for that. All right. Uh, from Michigan, we have the skin microbiome company, Milu.

• 1:24:49Shaan Puri?

  Uh, Lee can see, he's definitely putting his mouth next to the mic.

• 1:24:55Shaan Puri?

  All right. Um, we're gonna go from UIUC. We have Pavlet.

• 1:25:04Shaan Puri?

  Lukewarm, lukewarm. I'm gonna call it what it was. Um, from Michigan, we have Tour.

• 1:25:15Shaan Puri?

  All right. So from Michigan, it looks like Milu was the loudest. And now from UIUC, last one, we have Brothers Nuts.

• 1:25:27Sam Parr?

  So Sean, I think I know who won that one. I think it was the Metaphraser.

• 1:25:32Shaan Puri?

  Metaphraser, I think had it.

• 1:25:34Sam Parr?

  I think they had it.

• 1:25:38Speaker 02

  We miss you, bro. We miss you.

• 1:25:39Shaan Puri?

  All right, all right. Okay, wonderful. Guys, great job. Everybody, this is really impressive. You guys are way ahead of where I was in college. I think Sam, probably the same for you. You guys are ahead of the curve. I hope our feedback is helpful.

• 1:25:52Sam Parr?

  Even the people we shit on, like if we ask hard questions or give you a hard time, of all the six people who presented the six companies, you're going to be in the 1% of the 1%. You already are in the 1% of the 1%. And what you're doing is badass.

• 1:26:06Shaan Puri?

  By being active, you're badass. And it's a sign of respect. If we are willing to keep it real with you, that's because we actually think that you can win. If we just wanted to be nice and say, oh, congratulations, the participation. I'm so happy for you. That wouldn't have been helpful to you, but it also would be actually not a sign of respect. We respect all of you for doing this. And I just want to say, like, I would not have become an entrepreneur had I not had a class like this where a speaker came in and just got me hyped about the idea of doing a startup. I did not know what to do. My first idea was terrible. My execution was absolutely horrendous, but it got me on that path. It just seemed like more fun. And so if you're listening to this or you're at one of these schools right now, if it seems like something that you would want to do,

• 1:26:50Shaan Puri?

  and it seems like the lifestyle, like, go for it. Don't let that hold you back. This could be a tipping point moment for you, just like it was for me.

• 1:26:58Sam Parr?

  And you are currently in the phase of life where it will never get easier to do these things than where you are right now. For the next, like, you have like a four-year window where it's like you have nothing really big to worry about except for this. And also, I think it's Austin and Tommy. Give these guys a shout out. You guys are the man.

• 1:27:23Sam Parr?

  It's really hard to organize this type of stuff and I think that getting getting this type of energy in one room like you guys have done, it's contagious.

• 1:27:33Shaan Puri?

  Sam, you thinking what I'm thinking? I got two words for you. Nationwide, we're taking the power hour nationwide. And then the second, the second two words for you, pizza party sponsored by MFM. I think we should give these guys some money. Let them host some events and have some fun. So we will, we will, we'll connect with you Tommy after this and we'll, we'll give you guys some cash so that we can, you know, encourage you to throw more events and get more people excited about this. And I like that it's underground. I like that it's off the books. I like that this is not the entrepreneurship club of the school. This is, you know, just the people who actually, you know, care about building stuff and want to do cool things and want to get off the conventional career track. I, I, I'm for that.

• 1:28:16Sam Parr?

  Thank you all for doing this. We appreciate you. Have a wonderful Wednesday and if you're listening on MFM, you gotta go and give all these guys a little bit of love on their websites and check out their products. All right. Thank you guys. That's it. That's the pod.