MBMBaM 824: Chaddy, Not Daddy

The brothers are BACK, baby! All of them, even the ones you forgot about! They've been de-aged and are making out with mystical artifacts in order to bring you the best advice about grumpy owls, small-b bbq, and Big Brother Time-Travel Lore. Suggested talking points: Straight to Kevin, I Am Root, I Don’t Question That BB-tonium Exists, Swollen with Vienna Sausages, Staging with Heart Asian Pacific Environmental Network: https://apen4ej.org/our-work/

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mentioned only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?

• 0:20Speaker 01

  It's the start of something beautiful. A small acquaintance has blossomed, it's rapid into a precious friendship. I could have never seen what was coming for me. Hangs at the skate park, hangs by the beach. My life, it feels like. Life, ah, it's better, it's better with you. My life, ah, it's better, it's better with you. This is true, ah, it's better, it's better with you.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  My life, ah, it's better with you.

• 1:11Travis McElroy?

  Hello, everybody. Welcome to my brother, my brother and me, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.

• 1:19Griffin McElroy?

  What's up, Trav Nation? It's me, your minimalist brother Travis, big dog, wolf, vroom, vroom, the heater, award-winning McElroy.

• 1:25Travis McElroy?

  Hey, Trav Nation. It's me, your sweet baby brother, thirty under thirty, media luminary Griffin McElroy.

• 1:30Travis McElroy?

  The Avengers will return.

• 1:32Travis McElroy?

  I'm so.

• 1:33Travis McElroy?

  Next summer, the Avengers are back. I watched this trailer. They're all there.

• 1:40Griffin McElroy?

  Everyone.

• 1:41Travis McElroy?

  They're all there.

• 1:42Travis McElroy?

  Even the dead ones.

• 1:43Travis McElroy?

  Even the dead ones are there.

• 1:46Travis McElroy?

  And because you know why? We gotta stump Dr. Doom's ass. Dead ass Captain America old got too old and died from it. And even he is like coming out of his grave and he's doing just fine. He D aged fifty years. He looks like sexy ass Chris Evans again, and he's ready to beat Dr. Doom's ass because it's gotta get beat.

• 2:05Travis McElroy?

  I'm just real PO'd.

• 2:06Travis McElroy?

  Oh, right.

• 2:07Travis McElroy?

  Because they must've found my fanfiction. It's 1,200 pages long in which they all get together. Everybody's back from the den.

• 2:17Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 2:18Travis McElroy?

  Everybody's back. And if I go see this movie and Ben Grimm is kissing Dr. Doom.

• 2:25Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 2:26Travis McElroy?

  And Captain America is kissing Mjolnir.

• 2:31Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 2:32Travis McElroy?

  And like, then I'll know it's straight plagiarism.

• 2:36Travis McElroy?

  The, if I walk folks through the opening scene is Captain America and Spider-Man and the Hulk and Iron Man on four beach chairs. And they're sitting in four beach chairs. And then Spider-Man like wakes up from his dead sleep and he's like, guys, we didn't save the world. Dr. Doom's not dead. They're like, who's Dr. Doom? And then Iron Man's like, he's right. Job's not done. We gotta kill Dr. Doom. Cause that's how the trailer starts.

• 3:04Griffin McElroy?

  If you remember, I know it's been a while since it came out, but in Endgame, everybody's all in like, we gotta stop Thanos. The Infinity Wish made half the world die. But in the, but do you guys remember in Endgame, almost the whole movie Spider-Man's going, but when are we gonna get Dr. Doom's ass?

• 3:19Travis McElroy?

  When are we gonna get the Dr. Doom?

• 3:20Travis McElroy?

  We have to kill Dr. Doom.

• 3:22Griffin McElroy?

  I've heard about this guy from like Baravia or wherever, and I'm, I'm ready, I'm locked in. I'm ready to shoot. I just need like a ride over there.

• 3:31Travis McElroy?

  And Tony Stark was like, do you mean my secret twin brother? Yeah, he's evil as fuck.

• 3:36Travis McElroy?

  Don't spoil it.

• 3:37Travis McElroy?

  Okay. And so then they call the doctor and the doctor shows up in his Tardis. And they whisk them away to Baravia. It's straight.

• 3:45Travis McElroy?

  This is your fanfiction again. You got it. You got it. I don't know that they're gonna adapt it quite that, quite that literally.

• 3:52Travis McElroy?

  We'll see.

• 3:53Travis McElroy?

  Remember when Dr. Doom was at the end of Endgame? And he had like, he took out a cigarette and he was like, forgot to kill me bitch. And they flicked this cigarette, this screen.

• 4:03Griffin McElroy?

  I remember that, yeah.

• 4:04Travis McElroy?

  Man, I was like, I was kinda yelling. I remember all of us yelling like, kill Dr. Doom. Why did anybody kill Dr. Doom?

• 4:10Griffin McElroy?

  This is gonna become a bigger problem.

• 4:12Travis McElroy?

  This is a huge problem. Job's not done. Kill Dr. Doom.

• 4:17Travis McElroy?

  We got Scarlet Witch and we got all these little side projects where they're like, there's this other guy. Don't throw another guy on there when we haven't settled the Dr. Doom issue yet.

• 4:27Griffin McElroy?

  And at the end of every preceding movie was another like post-credit scene of Dr. Doom like smoking a cigarette, flicking it and saying a different thing like, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. Flick cigarette.

• 4:40Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 4:41Griffin McElroy?

  And they do the next movie and they would end with him being like, guess who? It's me. Here's Johnny. And he'd smash through the door. And they just kept doing that.

• 4:50Travis McElroy?

  The one that.

• 4:51Griffin McElroy?

  Even on TV shows, every TV episode had a post-credit sequence with Dr. Doom.

• 4:55Travis McElroy?

  Did you see the post-credit on, the one that really bothered me the most?

• 4:59Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 5:00Travis McElroy?

  Was at the end of Wonder Man, Ben Kingsley knocks on the door and he's like, hello, it's me, the Mandarin. I'm here to kill Dr. Doom. And he's got a knife and he's like, please answer. And he's like, oh, well, no luck. And he walks away. It's like, that's the worst try you guys have done yet. It feels like you're just checking a box at this point. Like, yes, someone intended to kill Dr. Doom, but it wasn't successful.

• 5:22Griffin McElroy?

  And I mean, we've been waiting for so long at that, the after-credit scene in Avengers had, you know, Loki goes down and then Thanos shows up and he's like, guess I'll do it myself. And then immediately after that, there's another end credit scene where it zooms even further out and you see Dr. Doom and he's smoking a cigarette and he's like, you're not even ready for this shit yet.

• 5:42Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. I'll let him do it himself and then I'll do it myself.

• 5:47Griffin McElroy?

  And then I'll do it myself. I do like in this trailer, they have to set the stakes. They're like, this is gonna take everything we got. This is be a miracle if we can face this, our mightiest foe yet. And it's like, that's a dude. That's a dude and he's wearing armor. I'll grant you that. There is some issues, I think, with his defensive capabilities you guys are gonna run into. But the other one was a huge alien, a huge alien who killed half of the universe.

• 6:14Travis McElroy?

  With magic stones.

• 6:15Griffin McElroy?

  You're telling me that this guy?

• 6:16Travis McElroy?

  We leave this guy on the board.

• 6:18Griffin McElroy?

  This physician, this armored physician? Is gonna be tougher than that? I don't know, guys.

• 6:23Travis McElroy?

  Why didn't we kill him?

• 6:25Travis McElroy?

  When they're like, this is gonna be our toughest one. Just cut to the Fantastic Four being like, we beat him by a few.

• 6:30Griffin McElroy?

  We do this all day, guys.

• 6:32Travis McElroy?

  Kill him as many times you need. What do you need today?

• 6:35Travis McElroy?

  Kill tomorrow.

• 6:36Griffin McElroy?

  Get a big magnet. He's fucked. Get a big. Hello, Magneto is in the trailer. Magneto's in the trailer. Zip. He walks up, hey, what's up? Grep. Grep. He goes like this, scup, like a Dr. Evil, zip it. He does one of those and he just like a can.

• 6:52Travis McElroy?

  The first, the first scene of the movie, the second scene of the movie, cause they do a flashback to Dr. Grimm saying, forgot to kill me bitch. And then the first scene of the movie is Magneto and the Fantastic Four both get something in the mail. It's like sweepstakes winner, you won all expenses paid trip to Hawaii. So they immediately go to Hawaii. First thing, they're not in it. They're, they can't help.

• 7:14Griffin McElroy?

  But this is why, this is why I've been telling.

• 7:16Travis McElroy?

  Cameo.

• 7:17Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, no cameo.

• 7:18Griffin McElroy?

  They'll bring him.

• 7:19Travis McElroy?

  For a hundred bucks a pop, just one birthday message, you know, it sucks. Um, for a cameo, listen, um, the, this is why I've been telling people, you gotta watch Daredevil Born Again, cause the first episode of Daredevil Born Again, Kingpin kills Dr. Doom. And then if you watch all two seasons and then to end, Vincent D'Onofrio was like, and I'll tell you one other thing about my city. Zip, unzip. It was a costume. He was Dr. Doom the whole time. And that's why I was, that's what I was like, okay.

• 7:54Griffin McElroy?

  Did he kill in the first episode?

• 7:55Travis McElroy?

  He, did you not kill him the first episode? It turns out he didn't. It was actually Kingpin was killed and then Dr. Doom made a Kingpin costume and wore it for two seasons. Made love to his wife.

• 8:06Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, wow.

• 8:07Travis McElroy?

  As Kingpin, as Vincent D'Onofrio's.

• 8:08Griffin McElroy?

  And you would think she would be so confused because you know, she, Vincent D'Onofrio, she would be in the act of making love with him, but she would hear the jingle jangle of his armor inside this, inside the skin.

• 8:17Travis McElroy?

  Oh, yeah. Sorry about accidentally recounting the plot of Wonder Woman eighty-four. I didn't mean to hard pivot into that, but I accidentally did just turn this into Wonder Woman eighty-four. That is basically the plot.

• 8:27Griffin McElroy?

  Dr. Doom's so strong, Dr. Doom's so strong that even in the DC universe, we got Batman versus Superman, and there's the scene where Batman's like, well, at least I'm not fighting Dr. Doom.

• 8:36Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. And he and Superman like agree.

• 8:39Griffin McElroy?

  They agree.

• 8:40Travis McElroy?

  Like, yeah, I'd much rather fight you in armor.

• 8:42Griffin McElroy?

  Way, way, way.

• 8:43Travis McElroy?

  Than Dr. Doom in armor. And they're like, that's what bonds them. And they're like, oh, we're both afraid of Dr. Doom. Maybe we're not so different, you and I.

• 8:51Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. I'm excited for the lines. I'm excited for all the lines. This trailer had a lot of lines.

• 8:56Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 8:57Griffin McElroy?

  I'm excited for, I wanna see Shang-Chi up there saying like, it looks like this is gonna take all ten of my rings. Like, cool shit. Like, I think I'd be good at like writing lines for like the superheroes to say in, in the Avengers movies.

• 9:10Travis McElroy?

  I think we should also throw our hat in the ring to design the popcorn buckets.

• 9:15Griffin McElroy?

  Hell, yes.

• 9:16Travis McElroy?

  So many ideas. Dr. Doom's mouth wide open.

• 9:20Griffin McElroy?

  Yes.

• 9:21Travis McElroy?

  The thing's mouth wide open. Spider-Man's mouth wide open.

• 9:24Griffin McElroy?

  Uh huh.

• 9:25Travis McElroy?

  Mystique turning into White Widow with her mouth wide open.

• 9:29Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. Kevin Feig, Kevin Feig, and he's got his shirt stretched out like this and the popcorn is like in the shirt, like you're eating it out of his stretched out shirt.

• 9:36Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. Or you can just put money in there.

• 9:38Griffin McElroy?

  You can put money in there if you want to.

• 9:40Travis McElroy?

  And that goes straight to Kevin. Straight to Kevin.

• 9:42Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 9:43Travis McElroy?

  I mean, a lot of people watch that trailer and they're like, I don't know, this doesn't seem very cool. That seemed like a good moment to remind everybody that like comic books are not cool. Like they're not, this is a good time. Remember everybody was like, I guess the nerds inherited the earth. And everybody likes geek stuff. Maybe it's time for us bullies to rise again. You know what I mean? Like maybe us, maybe it's time to remind everybody that like, hey, this nerd stuff. It's for nerds. It's for nerds only.

• 10:10Travis McElroy?

  But there was a period, I believe in the late nineties where I think Superman got hit by an energy blast that separated him into two separate energy based supermans. One that was like all blue energy, all red energy. That went on for a really long time, you guys. So you need to know that comic books can sometimes be super dumb.

• 10:31Travis McElroy?

  Nonsense. Yeah, it's all kind of nonsense.

• 10:33Griffin McElroy?

  We got spoiled by a generation of almost all like pretty competent. Action blockbuster superhero movies. It's not going to be that again, but there's going to be lots to like. The lines. I didn't, I didn't, the buckets, I didn't see Groot. In this one, I know he was in the Mandalorian and Grogu, but I didn't see Groot in this one.

• 10:58Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 10:59Griffin McElroy?

  I'm hoping that.

• 11:00Travis McElroy?

  Griffin, that was a tree. I tried, I tried to tell you.

• 11:03Travis McElroy?

  No, every tree in movie, because I saw lots of trees in Wonder Man. And I was like, that's great, that's great. They're all connected. It's like, uh, that big Bayo Bab farm, I think that's down in like Florida. Where it looks like thousands of trees, but it's one tree. All trees are great.

• 11:18Griffin McElroy?

  I bet if Groot went down to the mangroves, the swamp lands of Florida and plugged in, that would be like a nonstop just. Or gee, for a big plant, just one shared root system, just going fucking hog wild.

• 11:31Travis McElroy?

  Comes back, he comes back with an accent that's like vaguely appropriative. Like, I don't think so, Groot.

• 11:36Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 11:36Travis McElroy?

  Okay, you lived down there for two weeks, calm down.

• 11:39Griffin McElroy?

  That'd be great. I hope they have a Groot in this one.

• 11:42Travis McElroy?

  I hope Steven Root's in this one.

• 11:46Griffin McElroy?

  He could.

• 11:47Travis McElroy?

  He can do anything. He's my favorite actor in the world. He can do anything.

• 11:51Griffin McElroy?

  He can beat anything.

• 11:52Travis McElroy?

  Comedy, action, drama.

• 11:55Griffin McElroy?

  I will tell, I have not been deeply invested in the Marvel verse since, since Endgame. I've watched some of the stuff since then. Some of it's been pretty cool. Um, but.

• 12:02Travis McElroy?

  Nine Wonder Man are great.

• 12:04Griffin McElroy?

  If, if the movie ends with Doctor Doom taking off his mask, it's not RDJ. Like we all expect because he came out on stage during Comic Con was like, what's up? I'm Doctor Doom. And yet they're kind of dancing around that in the trailer, which is wild. Guys, we all saw the news. If instead Doctor Doom pulled off the mask and it was Steven Root under there and it was a huge twist, a huge gotcha surprise.

• 12:26Travis McElroy?

  I am Root. Yes.

• 12:28Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 12:28Travis McElroy?

  Fucking great. It's Steven Root from Widows Bay.

• 12:32Travis McElroy?

  Not too late. Doesn't come out till next year. You could do reshoots.

• 12:35Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, I'm pretty sure this year.

• 12:36Travis McElroy?

  They get reroutes. It's time for reroutes. Just get them in there.

• 12:42Griffin McElroy?

  Awesome.

• 12:43Travis McElroy?

  This is an advice show. We take your questions. We, we do our best to answer them. That's it. I've been LARPing for almost seven years now.

• 12:56Travis McElroy?

  Continuously. I've, I've had a ropey LARP for almost seven years now. And my character has become well-known and respected in the game. Taking on several leadership positions and often called upon when help is needed. And while I feel very lucky and grateful to hold these positions, I now spend most of my games in meetings and negotiations. Can barely make it. Ten steps in any direction before someone needs me. I truly love what my character does, but I also miss the shenanigans I could get into. My character wasn't important. Brothers, what are some simple ways? I can bring more fun and mischief in my escapism hobby without jeopardizing my character fantasy nine to five. That was from pretend politician in Southern California.

• 13:36Travis McElroy?

  This is classic warrior to king kind of shit. You know what I mean? Robert Baratheon.

• 13:42Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, you know, the, the Barath.

• 13:46Travis McElroy?

  The Barath. I don't remember this show much.

• 13:48Griffin McElroy?

  He just wanted to get out there and kill stags.

• 13:52Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, man.

• 13:53Griffin McElroy?

  And yet he had to get pulled into all this castle mischief, all this palace intrigue. Feel bad for him.

• 13:59Travis McElroy?

  It's weird that their symbol was a stag and he loved killing those bastards.

• 14:03Griffin McElroy?

  He loved it. He was his favorite.

• 14:05Travis McElroy?

  This is why Chris Gaines exists. Oh, this is why Chris Gaines exists because Garth got too imprisoned by the country music industry. And he needed somebody without all the expectations. This is also why Chatty exists. Chatty is my alter ego. When the shackles of being daddy are too much, when I can't handle the burden anymore. I brush my hair down like this and I'm, and I'm Chatty and Chatty.

• 14:33Griffin McElroy?

  All Chris Gaines did. That is all Garth did.

• 14:35Travis McElroy?

  And Chatty doesn't have, doesn't care about the rules. He doesn't enforce the rules. Chatty's really cool. The kids can do whatever they want when Chatty's around. And I don't have to give a shit because I'm not daddy. I'm Chatty. I'm a completely different guy. Sometimes I'll hit on Sydney and the kids hate it.

• 14:51Griffin McElroy?

  Okay, yeah.

• 14:51Travis McElroy?

  Which makes sense, right? They know, they know. Right.

• 14:54Travis McElroy?

  You've developed your own cool stepdad.

• 14:57Travis McElroy?

  Yes, I'm my own cool stepdad. And anytime it's getting like to be, the stress of parenting is too much. I can leave.

• 15:04Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 15:05Travis McElroy?

  And Chatty can be here.

• 15:06Griffin McElroy?

  How does Sid feel about Chatty? This?

• 15:08Travis McElroy?

  Sid probably, Chatty's cool has never washed a dish. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, every girl thinks they want a Chatty. But at the end of the day, what you want is daddy at the end of the day. But Chatty can be helpful when you just need a break from, from, from the expectations, right? This could be your little fucking shitbag rogue that everybody hates. Even you, you hate most of all this little shitbag rogue running around stealing people's socks, throwing them into, down a hill, you know?

• 15:40Griffin McElroy?

  But it's you. That's what they do in LARP.

• 15:41Travis McElroy?

  You, what? You could even go like vigilante, right? Where Bruce Wayne, he's helping through all the proper means, right? Donations and charities and stuff. And then you have a masked version of your character that no one knows is, is you. That's out there, I don't know, putting people in stocks. I don't know. I don't know what.

• 16:03Griffin McElroy?

  Well, I mean, you're touching, you're touching on something that I think could be extremely powerful and might actually be a good idea. I've never LARped. So I don't know how normal this is for a LARP, but I have to imagine, I mean. Professional wrestling is LARP fighting basically, right? And that's not to denigrate it. I think it's a beautiful.

• 16:21Travis McElroy?

  No, I think LARP is medieval pro wrestling. Yeah.

• 16:24Griffin McElroy?

  Right. So. It's time, it sounds like, if everyone depends on you and holds you in such high esteem. The slingshot effect of the heel turn that you could bust out right now would be fucking incredible. Just like, just like. Tony Stark is bitten by a radioactive.

• 16:46Travis McElroy?

  Suit of armor.

• 16:47Griffin McElroy?

  Eastern European gentleman and then becomes Doctor Doom. You two must become the villain that these people then will band together to kick your ass because they are all hurt because they all needed you and depended on you so much.

• 17:00Travis McElroy?

  Like, I don't know what happens.

• 17:01Griffin McElroy?

  Actually.

• 17:02Travis McElroy?

  I don't know what happens next in Dune, but I feel like something like that is going to happen in Dune. I don't know Dune, but I've only watched the first two Dunes. But if I look at a little bit of the third Dune, I think something like that is going to happen with Timmy Chimmy. I'm a little worried.

• 17:15Griffin McElroy?

  Timmy Chimmy is a unproblematic fave in that movie, dude. I do not know what you're talking about.

• 17:20Travis McElroy?

  What an, what an interesting, by the way, what an interesting timing on that to like have your character.

• 17:27Griffin McElroy?

  He should have said, oh man.

• 17:28Travis McElroy?

  I can't see him as a villain. I love Timmy Chimmy too much.

• 17:31Griffin McElroy?

  His timing was just a bit off, dude.

• 17:33Travis McElroy?

  It's a bit off, man. Could have get that, rode that Oscar wave and then just.

• 17:38Griffin McElroy?

  And then started talking shit about the ballet, buddying up with, with more than one of the sharks from Shark Tank. Like then we're all like, actually, wait a minute, Timmy Chimmy. We'd buy him as a bad guy.

• 17:49Travis McElroy?

  Griffin, in pro wrestling, how often does a heel turn get blamed on like an evil curse or like magical possession or something?

• 17:58Griffin McElroy?

  My dear sweet summer child, half the time?

• 18:01Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, that's why I asked, because I was going to make it a statement that like in LARPing too, at any moment, the curse can be broken. You can go back to your good self and blame everything on the curse, unlike pro wrestling. And then I thought, wait. I think I know just enough about pro wrestling to think magic is involved.

• 18:17Griffin McElroy?

  There was a story arc where I think Bray Wyatt. Bray Wyatt famously can hypnotize people. Like if they want to do a match between two people who are best buds. They used to just be able to get Bray Wyatt out there and hold up his lantern. And now all of a sudden, you know, Alexa Bliss is, is, is bad now.

• 18:39Travis McElroy?

  Hold up his lantern?

• 18:41Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, he had a magic lantern. Bray Wyatt was the fucking best, man. No one's ever done it like Bray.

• 18:45Travis McElroy?

  God, wrestling rules.

• 18:47Griffin McElroy?

  Wrestling is very, very good. I'm pretty sure that when, um, John Cena like freaked out. And went, and went ham on, uh, Cody Rhodes, that was also a magic. There was a mag, there was a supernatural element to that. I think it was a smoke monster, got him and made him do all that bad stuff. And then he, then he retired to have an incredibly lucrative television and film career and it, he wasn't hip, he wasn't like exercised or anything. He just kind of was just like, all right, guys, thanks. It's been fun. I've been John Cena. This has all been play pretend. I wasn't actually hypnotized or cursed by Bray Wyatt's magic lantern. Um. This is, but I'm off the movies.

• 19:25Travis McElroy?

  Hasn't been in a Marvel movie, has he?

• 19:27Griffin McElroy?

  John Cena has been in a Marvel movie.

• 19:30Travis McElroy?

  Which one?

• 19:33Griffin McElroy?

  I don't know, but it seems crazy to say he hasn't. Marvel movie.

• 19:37Travis McElroy?

  Well, because he was in Peacemaker, that's DC.

• 19:39Griffin McElroy?

  Um, oh wow. No, he has never been in it. He's never been in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. There's got to be, he must've done something.

• 19:46Travis McElroy?

  Cause everybody's been in it.

• 19:47Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 19:48Travis McElroy?

  They keep asking Adam Driver.

• 19:49Travis McElroy?

  Driver keeps saying no.

• 19:51Griffin McElroy?

  I love that. I saw that quote from an interview where people, Adam Driver was like, yeah, they keep asking me and it's like a standing invitation and I just keep turning it down. And it's like, I think it was actually Kevin Feige was talking about Adam Driver and like, that's cool. Can I say that too? Yeah. They keep trying to get me, guys. They keep trying to bring me in. They want me to-

• 20:08Travis McElroy?

  I've never agreed to be in a Marvel cinematic-

• 20:11Griffin McElroy?

  I have never, ever greenlit, put the, put the rubber stamp on that.

• 20:17Travis McElroy?

  Never once have I been asked and said, yes.

• 20:20Griffin McElroy?

  Cause I need practical. I only work practical. And if they're gonna put my, if they're gonna put my head on a big, strong CGI body without my permission, I don't play like that.

• 20:31Travis McElroy?

  I also only shoot on 35mm. You know what I mean?

• 20:34Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 20:34Travis McElroy?

  Like, I don't do digital, I think. So if you want to put me in a Marvel movie, it's all gonna have to be on celluloid,

• 20:42Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 20:43Travis McElroy?

  screened at like indie theaters.

• 20:46Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. Did you guys know that when Mark Ruffalo showed up the first day of shooting for Avengers, he's, he painted his body fully green and they were like, you don't need to do that. We'll make you, we'll, we have a computer Hulk that we can do.

• 20:58Travis McElroy?

  We already talked about, we can't just randomly go back and start talking about Avengers again. We've already talked about Avengers once today.

• 21:05Griffin McElroy?

  You're right. You're right. No, you're right.

• 21:08Travis McElroy?

  Have you guys been watching Big Brother?

• 21:10Griffin McElroy?

  No. Never once.

• 21:12Travis McElroy?

  Me neither. Me neither. But I saw a commercial for Big Brother this season and I asked my friends, John Rissy about it, cause they watch Big Brother.

• 21:20Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 21:20Travis McElroy?

  And I said, guys, I saw a commercial in Big Brother where there's portals. Is this accurate? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Time, this season it's about time travel. And I was like, what are you talking about? And then I got distracted. So I went searching on Reddit and I found a post about this season of Big Brother, right?

• 21:38Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 21:38Travis McElroy?

  And I just wanted to, I'm hoping people can fill this in for me because I wanted to share it with you guys. Cause without context, I don't know what I've been missing. This show is unwatchable. This is from the Big Brother Reddit.

• 21:50Travis McElroy?

  Big Brother has had some wild themes in the past. It's no coincidence that the next most crazy one was the time laser. But they have taken it to an absurd degree and there are some issues here that I feel are too big to ignore. Firstly, let me say, this is not an indictment of the dining table time machine or timetable. I don't question, I don't question that BB tonium exists.

• 22:15Travis McElroy?

  I don't question that BB tonium exists.

• 22:18Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 22:18Travis McElroy?

  That it can be used for time travel, or even that Enzo is the one who was able to develop it.

• 22:24Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 22:24Travis McElroy?

  These things are all unbelievable. The last most of all, of course, but they can be accepted as truth. We will even hand wave them being able to get camera footage across time and space.

• 22:36Griffin McElroy?

  Uh huh. Yeah.

• 22:37Travis McElroy?

  The problem is in the framing of the reality icons that they recruited with the timetable. Why would you need to go back in time to invite a teenage Angela to a future season of a show that doesn't yet exist? Especially knowing that she will already have been on the sh-

• 22:53Griffin McElroy?

  That's-

• 22:54Travis McElroy?

  Especially knowing that she will already have been on the show prior to this season without any meddling. Couldn't they just ask her a month ago if she wanted to come back? You don't need a time machine.

• 23:05Griffin McElroy?

  Guys, it's my constant secret fear.

• 23:07Travis McElroy?

  You don't need a time machine for that.

• 23:09Griffin McElroy?

  It's my constant secret fear that dope shit is happening in these corners of pop culture and entertainment that I can't, I can't possibly, I can't possibly be watching. I can't watch, I watch every episode of American Ninja Warrior. I can't also watch every episode of Big Brother and I hate that there's secret, great stuff happening.

• 23:30Travis McElroy?

  This is why we need fucking Gogglebox here in America.

• 23:34Griffin McElroy?

  Okay.

• 23:34Travis McElroy?

  They watch order soup.

• 23:36Griffin McElroy?

  Bring it back.

• 23:37Travis McElroy?

  For God's sake, or the internet, or TikTok, something, you know? I just need to see normal people like me reacting to wild shit, sitting on their couch. Not like, and don't get me wrong, I love YouTubers who do videos reacting to wild shit.

• 23:51Griffin McElroy?

  Love YouTubers.

• 23:52Travis McElroy?

  But I want just sitting on a couch and seeing someone go, what the fuck is that?

• 23:57Griffin McElroy?

  Sure.

• 23:58Travis McElroy?

  What I want.

• 23:58Griffin McElroy?

  Sure. I'm sure that's also on, on YouTube for you. If you like, I'm sure there's lots of different, there's like a cozy react. But even that's too much. Like, I need a, I need a pill or something.

• 24:08Travis McElroy?

  The only way this makes sense is if the meddling truly is necessary. I.e. the letter not only includes instructions to come to this season, but also information about how to ensure she is cast on her original season after the show does come into existence.

• 24:24Griffin McElroy?

  That's cool.

• 24:25Travis McElroy?

  Maybe it's true that time travel is the only reasonable explanation for Angela being cast. Actually, we should go back to that icon question. Does this imply that Angela was intentionally acting unhinged in her first appearance to make her worthy of her spot in the future?

• 24:41Griffin McElroy?

  These, this was, this was guidance.

• 24:44Travis McElroy?

  This is all-

• 24:45Griffin McElroy?

  From her future self.

• 24:47Travis McElroy?

  I do find it unlikely this plan would work though, based on how she destroyed the letter without even reading it. Clearly this is meant to be a second reference to Back to the Future, along with Enzo hitting his head and unlocking the secrets of time travel. However, it makes much less sense for Angela as there was the exact opposite of a grand adventure camaraderie between her and the players before her departure.

• 25:06Griffin McElroy?

  God damn it.

• 25:06Travis McElroy?

  What is this show about?

• 25:08Griffin McElroy?

  It's about time travel. Obviously terrifying thing that requires in-depth analysis would be that if she goes time traveling and immediately dies?

• 25:18Griffin McElroy?

  And the show doesn't end? The players don't panic? They just gleefully go on? What's worse than-

• 25:23Travis McElroy?

  Does that happen?

• 25:25Griffin McElroy?

  I've never seen, I've watched a lot of reality shows. I've never seen someone suddenly die on one.

• 25:29Travis McElroy?

  What's worse is that Julie doesn't even consider going back to save her. Julie, the host, I think they're talking about the host of the show.

• 25:41Travis McElroy?

  Julie doesn't go back to save her. She just goes on to find a replacement. The lawsuits would be incredible to say the least. How can I take it seriously if the story isn't taking itself seriously?

• 25:51Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 25:52Travis McElroy?

  Justin, are there comments reacting to this like in a shared way? Or is this one of those like creepypasta, I remember a scary TV show from when I was a kid that doesn't exist?

• 26:03Griffin McElroy?

  It's a back room. It's a back room.

• 26:05Travis McElroy?

  No.

• 26:05Griffin McElroy?

  Is this a back room?

• 26:06Travis McElroy?

  Uh, no, this is not a back room. This is just a regular Reddit post. If I could just, I'm almost done with this one. By far, the most egregious error in spite of all this is how Julie can even use the timetable right now. It's shown to travel with the players and they haven't come back yet. So there should be no table for her to use. No producers or cameramen are shown sitting at the table. So we can't say that someone else took it back ahead of the players. I guess they have a second identical timetable?

• 26:43Griffin McElroy?

  This fucking rules, man. I gotta become a part of this community.

• 26:46Travis McElroy?

  Identical timetable? That production wheeled in and put in the exact same spot as the original for Julie to use? The existence of multiple time machines raises so many questions by itself that I can't possibly get into it.

• 27:01Griffin McElroy?

  One Big Brother time machine. Okay.

• 27:05Travis McElroy?

  This is easily explained.

• 27:07Griffin McElroy?

  Okay.

• 27:08Travis McElroy?

  If you go back, right? Then the table just sits there until it's in the present. It's the same with the DeLorean. Read a fucking book.

• 27:18Griffin McElroy?

  If you don't move it, then it eventually will make its way back home. That's interesting.

• 27:23Travis McElroy?

  It's the same table. It's just now, I don't know, 20 years older.

• 27:26Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 27:27Travis McElroy?

  Or you made two of them because if you're gonna have a time machine, why wouldn't you make fucking two of them? They always need a second one.

• 27:34Griffin McElroy?

  I would definitely always have a second time machine. Cause how many people, how many times does it happen that someone's been like, uh oh, now we're stuck in time?

• 27:41Travis McElroy?

  Right.

• 27:41Griffin McElroy?

  Have a second time machine, dummy. If you made one.

• 27:44Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, I'd leave a note with you guys to be like, hey, hey, um, I'm stuck in the past again. Come pick me up.

• 27:51Griffin McElroy?

  You need a spotter.

• 27:54Travis McElroy?

  I'm not gonna watch it. I'm not, I'm not, but like, thank you for the update.

• 27:59Griffin McElroy?

  I'll read the novelization.

• 28:00Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, when they adapt it into like McDonald's toys, I'll check those out.

• 28:04Griffin McElroy?

  Sure.

• 28:05Travis McElroy?

  Let's take a quick break. Let's head to the money zone and, uh, do it right. We'll do more.

• 28:22Travis McElroy?

  You know, you, you walk around your home, your place of living every day and, and take a look and, and really ask yourself, does this feel like you, is this, is this, does this really feel like your space? Is this a space where you really put your stamp on it? Do you love the things in there? And do they make you happy every day?

• 28:40Griffin McElroy?

  Is this a simulation?

• 28:42Travis McElroy?

  Things can't make you happy, but some things can. You know what I mean? That's an interesting way of thinking about it.

• 28:49Griffin McElroy?

  Money can't buy happiness, but it, and it can buy some happiness.

• 28:53Travis McElroy?

  It can buy things that make you happy.

• 28:55Griffin McElroy?

  For sure.

• 28:56Travis McElroy?

  I wanted to spend more time outside this summer. So I used Wayfair to find a lovely outdoor table for my family to use when we eat dinner outdoors. And so that's facilitated a lot of happiness in my life because I said, hey, I want this space to reflect me. I want this to feel like my family and Wayfair made it really easy. They have seating, they have grills, appliances, storage, lighting, rugs, decor, whatever you need. It's, it's there, you can get it at Wayfair. And if putting it together sounds like a pain, they got delivery, they can handle installation, even assembly. So I think it's going to make a really pleasant experience for you. I was very pleased. It arrived quickly. I think it's a really good quality table and I'm a big fan of it, honestly.

• 29:41Travis McElroy?

  It's been out there for, now it's been a year actually, since I got that table from Wayfair and it is just as lovely as the day I got it.

• 29:48Travis McElroy?

  It is a great table.

• 29:49Travis McElroy?

  It's a great table. Are you ready to upgrade your home for way less? Head to wayfair.com right now to shop all things home and get your space ready for less. That's W A Y F A I R dot com.

• 30:06Griffin McElroy?

  I have a confession and I don't know if Warby Parker wants me to start out with this energy, he doesn't have for Warby Parker. But I, I've been wearing Warby Parker frames pretty exclusively now for, for a very long time, for years and years. And I needed some new glasses and I had the thought, should I get out there and see what else, what else is happening in the world that is not this trusted brand that I rock with like so hard? So I went out and I looked at some other, I went to some glasses businesses and I looked around and I tried some stuff on, I couldn't find a lot of stuff I liked. And then the stuff that I thought looked all right was like a thousand goddamn dollars for one pair of glasses everywhere I went. They were like, let me think, a thousand, pretty much all of them, just outrageous prices

• 30:51Griffin McElroy?

  and not a lot of great selection, especially for a gentleman with a, who has a carriage of head that is larger than medically appropriate. And you know what I did? I went to a Warby Parker brick and mortar, which I had never done before. I'd done all like the shopping online and doing the home try on program, which is great. But I went into one and I tried on some frames and I was like, how much are they? And they were like, it, not just a normal price, but a better than normal price. And it really, I realized like, I don't need anything else. I just need Warby Parker.

• 31:24Travis McElroy?

  Is that your full confession, Griffin?

• 31:26Griffin McElroy?

  That's my full confession is that I was tempted, I was tempted, shit. I was tempted by the fruit of another. I was tempted by the fruit of another, but then I found out that there actually wasn't any good fruit and the fruit that was there, the wrinkled, pruney shitty fruit cost a thousand dollars.

• 31:40Travis McElroy?

  What's that? There's traffic?

• 31:42Griffin McElroy?

  I'll just tell them to wait until the end of the episode because I need to get this. Actually, I'm doing besties right after this. If you could have them circle back around, around 12:30, that would be great.

• 31:49Travis McElroy?

  Do you want like a coffee or anything, Griffin?

• 31:52Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, that'd be great. I'm rocking the Santiago extra wide. I really like this frame. It's just $95, these glasses. Wow. Can you believe that? And it's like a dual color. It's like tortoiseshell up top, but then like blue, like baby blue to complement the old, the, the peepers. I got another pair coming, more Buddy Holly style, very excited for those to come in. I got sunglasses from Warby Parker, genuinely like really great designs that look really good. And that the price is just fucking unbeatable, gang. It's so, so good. And, and you should be using it too. Also, every time they sell a pair of glasses, they give a pair to someone in need. That's like, they don't say, hey, someone in need, do you got a thousand dollars? They just give them the pair, like no questions asked.

• 32:36Griffin McElroy?

  They've distributed over 20 million pairs of glasses through the buy a pair, give a pair program.

• 32:40Travis McElroy?

  Dang.

• 32:41Griffin McElroy?

  Warby Parker. It's all I need right now. Buy one pair of glasses and get 20% off any additional pairs at warbyparker.com slash my brother. That's 20% off any additional pairs when you purchase one pair at W A R B Y Parker dot com slash my brother.

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• 34:53Travis McElroy?

  I recently began working as an educator at a wildlife rehabilitation center slash museum in the Bay Area. Eventually I will, that's a, that's an interesting combination because I think that if the rehab doesn't work out, you can just stuff them and be like, dang, remember hawks?

• 35:11Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, sure. The museum part of it, a zoo slash museum, there's a pipeline there that no one's talking about. Yeah.

• 35:18Travis McElroy?

  It's a very, like that uses like all the parts, you know, nothing goes to waste with that.

• 35:23Travis McElroy?

  No, yeah. That or it's unconnected. It's like, we have all these beautiful paintings and these fucking hawks tear them to shreds. What were we thinking?

• 35:32Travis McElroy?

  Eventually I will have the opportunity to train with one of the raptors, birds of prey. And I'm really hoping to be paired with a one eyed hawk named Odin. When I told this to my boss, she immediately said, oh, nobody trains with Odin. He's too grumpy and unruly. Brothers, how do I convince my boss to let me live out my childhood dreams of developing a Free Willy-esque relationship with this grouchy yet lovable hawk? That's from Bird Brain in the Bay.

• 35:56Travis McElroy?

  It's been a while since I've seen Free Willy, but I don't remember it being, oh, Free Willy, he's grumpy and angry.

• 36:03Griffin McElroy?

  No one, yeah, yeah. No one fucks with Free Willy.

• 36:08Travis McElroy?

  That guy?

• 36:10Griffin McElroy?

  I am glad, there was a part of this question where the question answer said, I'm really hoping to be paired with a one eyed hawk named Odin. I am very glad that they had a one eyed hawk named Odin at the rehabilitation center slash museum at which you work. Otherwise you would be about to coming, come to your boss with a completely unreasonable request.

• 36:31Travis McElroy?

  I wish to train a one eyed hawk named Odin. Well, we don't have that.

• 36:34Griffin McElroy?

  We don't have that.

• 36:35Travis McElroy?

  Well, I'm willing to put in the work.

• 36:37Griffin McElroy?

  Find a hawk, get an ass, the next part's going to be.

• 36:41Travis McElroy?

  Rename a klutzy one. I mean.

• 36:43Griffin McElroy?

  I don't know what to tell you, man.

• 36:44Travis McElroy?

  Hope for the best.

• 36:48Griffin McElroy?

  Hey.

• 36:49Travis McElroy?

  Start wearing an eye patch in a, to show solidarity.

• 36:53Griffin McElroy?

  Do you think they gave the hawk an eye patch? I think that'd be cool. I think it'd be nice to give the hawk a little eye patch.

• 36:58Travis McElroy?

  Well, when they're doing the falconry, they put a little blinder on it to start off with, right? And then removing, go, ha, go. So this would just be half as much.

• 37:10Griffin McElroy?

  Now, I will say if that would affect a hawk in the same way that it affects humans, I do think you need the, the certain amount of depth perception when diving downward at the ground at 75 miles an hour to scoop up a little, a little field mouse or something.

• 37:26Travis McElroy?

  You'll be his eyes.

• 37:28Griffin McElroy?

  Like in how to train your dragon.

• 37:30Travis McElroy?

  Stop, stop, stop, stop. Odin, stop, stop, stop, stop. Slow down.

• 37:36Griffin McElroy?

  The mouse is down. Down, down, down, down, down, not that down. Oh, fuck. Fuck. I'd like to train a no eyed hawk named Odin. I'd like to train a one eyed, no boned, deboned hawk.

• 37:50Travis McElroy?

  Oh, can take the talons out too? Fuck, that hurts.

• 37:53Griffin McElroy?

  Shit.

• 37:53Travis McElroy?

  Shit. Take his little fucking nails out. God damn Odin, shit.

• 37:58Griffin McElroy?

  I'd like to train a penguin.

• 38:00Travis McElroy?

  I want to train a really nice salamander that can fly.

• 38:04Griffin McElroy?

  Do you know what this is? I don't want to be a pessimist. I try not to embody that energy in my life. But this reminds me of every time I pass by the sword and the stone at Magic Kingdom. And there's a part of me that's like, they don't give it to guys like me. I, I understand. And I'm not going to build a whole platform around that. I don't have a type five I'm going to do about how they don't give it out to guys like me. But I do still have the thought of like, what if I am the chosen?

• 38:30Travis McElroy?

  Y'all, we gotta be careful when we're wearing black t-shirts because like anything can and will be used, clipped against us. You gotta be careful.

• 38:39Griffin McElroy?

  Okay, well, I'll get low so you can't see. Let me raise my desk up. I see the sword and the stone and I think, what if I'm the special chosen boy for today? And I never have, I've, I've only done it like once or twice before I realized like, nah, I'm just embarrassing myself. I think if this works out for you, life, life altering, life defining achievement. Wow. I tamed the skies. I tamed the one eyed hawk named Odin. He was too surly and unruly for anyone else to fuck around with, but now he is my familiar.

• 39:09Travis McElroy?

  Partner.

• 39:10Griffin McElroy?

  He's my partner.

• 39:11Travis McElroy?

  I think that's important. Tame, I would take tame out of it.

• 39:14Griffin McElroy?

  Take tame out of it entirely. Odin's not going to like it. If Odin hears you say that, the margin of error here is non-existent. If you fuck up once in front of Odin, it's done. He is not going to forgive you.

• 39:24Travis McElroy?

  You're going to need to treat Odin as an equal, which is a problem when it comes to ordering lunch and you take turns and like one day you get tacos and then the next day you're eating moles. Like that's going to be a problem, but like that's the kind of commitment you need to have.

• 39:37Griffin McElroy?

  Required.

• 39:38Travis McElroy?

  I, I, I think you're missing the step. Up where you have to get the boss on board first. Because if you just open up the cage and Odin flies away and you're like, well, shit. You're gonna get in trouble. You gotta have your boss's permission. I think first, you gotta win Odin over.

• 39:57Griffin McElroy?

  Okay.

• 39:57Travis McElroy?

  With just little, little treats. When nobody's looking. And then you go to the boss and you say, boss, good news. Watch how much Odin likes me. And they'll say, good job, Dustin. I'm proud of you. But we have had complaints from the other staff that Odin has become thick and swallowed with Vienna sausages.

• 40:14Griffin McElroy?

  Lead and they've called.

• 40:15Travis McElroy?

  He's become leaden. He no longer takes the skies because he's become so swollen with Vienna sausages. And I'll say, I don't know anything about that. They say, we've seen the cans in your car.

• 40:25Griffin McElroy?

  He smokes. He smokes cloves constantly.

• 40:28Travis McElroy?

  Day I give him 15.

• 40:30Travis McElroy?

  I'm all addicted to cloves cigarettes. I started out hotboxing him. Yeah. Some bitch will smoke him himself. I'm trying to work it into the show. Honestly, boss, you could have, forget the, forget the museum. Forget the conservatory. This is the all singing, all dancing, all smoking Odin show.

• 40:50Griffin McElroy?

  He blows the smoke rings and then flies through them. The kids are gonna love it. That's awesome. He can talk. He can only say cigarettes.

• 40:59Travis McElroy?

  He doesn't fly.

• 41:01Griffin McElroy?

  He says two things. He doesn't fly. He doesn't fly. He doesn't hunt. He goes, squaaah! And he also goes, cigarettes. And he goes, ah, ah, ah. The kids are gonna love it.

• 41:13Travis McElroy?

  The kids will love it.

• 41:15Griffin McElroy?

  I'll tell you what worked for my man Ash. Catch him. When Pikachu didn't wanna play along with him and become his, his familiar. Is he got, is the, then Pikachu got fucking jumped by a bunch of Spiros, maybe even a Fero, and got fucked up. And then my man Ash had to steal Misty's bike to get this little guy to a Pokemon Center before he actually died. And from that moment on, Pikachu was like, that's my duty. Save my life. I would do anything for him. I'm ride or die. You need to save Odin's life. And I don't see a way to organically have that happen without you also causing the thing that happens that.

• 41:51Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, you're gonna have to hire some birds to attack. And might I suggest maybe cut out a little bit of the middleman. Just step in and kick the other bird's asses. Don't wait for them to kick Odin's ass and then save him. When he's like surrounded, you step in, the two of you go back to back, right? And you like kick all these birds asses.

• 42:11Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 42:13Travis McElroy?

  I don't suppose it would be ethical to promise him a cybernetic hawk eye, would it? Like if you, well, like, I could, if you cooperate with me, I know some of the greatest scientists in Austria and they've been working at the forefront of like hawk technology. And maybe we can help you out.

• 42:32Travis McElroy?

  I worry it's a bit short sighted.

• 42:36Griffin McElroy?

  You're not gonna get anything from me for that.

• 42:39Travis McElroy?

  Because then eventually Odin will expect you to deliver on that. He's gonna ask you about it a lot.

• 42:45Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, you can only sort of dangle that over him for so long before he's gonna start asking.

• 42:50Travis McElroy?

  Feels mean. It feels mean now that I've.

• 42:51Griffin McElroy?

  It feels mean.

• 42:53Travis McElroy?

  Give him your eye.

• 42:54Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, that's cool. It's not gonna be the right size.

• 43:01Griffin McElroy?

  That'd be cool. If I saw a hawk with one human eye, that's a, I'm ready for, if he rolls up to my spot, I'm gonna say, what's the prophecy, dude? Like, you've got a, if you've got one big bulging human eye, you got a prophecy or.

• 43:15Travis McElroy?

  What are you doing? You're doing an MLM? You wanna be the president of my HOA? What's your deal, man? Whatever you're doing.

• 43:23Griffin McElroy?

  I'm in.

• 43:24Travis McElroy?

  I'm in.

• 43:25Travis McElroy?

  Da la lu lu lu.

• 43:26Griffin McElroy?

  Yes.

• 43:32Travis McElroy?

  I wanna munch.

• 43:34Griffin McElroy?

  Squaaah!

• 43:36Travis McElroy?

  I want to munch.

• 43:38Griffin McElroy?

  Squaaah!

• 43:41Travis McElroy?

  Welcome to Munch Squats Podcast. Within the podcast, profiling the latest and greatest in brand eating. And this week, we're gonna be talking Stray Kids.

• 43:52Griffin McElroy?

  Stray Kids?

• 43:53Travis McElroy?

  Yep.

• 43:54Griffin McElroy?

  What did they do?

• 43:56Travis McElroy?

  We're gonna be talking about.

• 43:57Griffin McElroy?

  Pump up kicks?

• 43:58Travis McElroy?

  We're gonna be talking about Stray Kids, um, because BBQ Chicken is launching a new Feel Crunch Chicken in partnership with K-pop star Felix.

• 44:08Griffin McElroy?

  Feel Crunch. Okay, so.

• 44:10Travis McElroy?

  So it is called Feel Crunch Chicken is the name of the new menu item, which is, let me check. Good. I like it. That's good. Feel Crunch Chicken is good. I like to say it and I would order.

• 44:22Travis McElroy?

  Play on words Felix, but it's Feel Crunch?

• 44:25Travis McElroy?

  I have no idea. It's launching a new menu item and this is lowercase b, lowercase b, period, lowercase q. That's the name of the place. When I say BBQ, I'm talking about a, a chain, okay? They're launching a new item, Feel Crunch Chicken in celebration of its new partnership with Felix, a member of the K-pop, the global K-pop group Stray Kids.

• 44:48Travis McElroy?

  Can I say I love the wording of that as though the partnership and the chicken sandwich are separate thing? We've partnered with him and in celebration of that partnership, we're putting out a sandwich.

• 45:00Travis McElroy?

  This isn't like, yeah, that's exactly right, Travis. Whatever we're gonna do in this partnership, this is more of a smashing the champagne bottle on the ship. Yeah, on the partnership.

• 45:09Travis McElroy?

  He actually has purchased a couple franchises that he's gonna run and we're really excited about it. So we put out a sandwich.

• 45:17Travis McElroy?

  Now, uh, then let's talk, do you guys wanna learn about, this is kind of like interactive. Do you wanna learn about the chicken or Felix? Which do you wanna learn about first? You're gonna learn about both, but what do you wanna learn?

• 45:27Griffin McElroy?

  I feel like learning about Felix first would be much more important. I know about chicken. I know chicken.

• 45:32Travis McElroy?

  You know chicken. So, uh, Felix is a, a member of Stray Kids, uh, and it has been with the group since, uh, it's, it's inception. Uh, I believe. So Felix appeared on the Mnet survival show Stray Kids, a show which ultimately allowed him to debut as a Stray Kids member. He's a member of the main dance line of the group, uh, which is a subunit currently referred to by the group and its fandom as the Dance Racha. Which is a play on the name of Stray Kids production, Subunit Three Racha. Now, I will say that, uh, he is a really well-known influencer in the world of fashion.

• 46:14Travis McElroy?

  He has cultivated an experimental image, according to Wikipedia, embracing color and accessories, including bags, jewelry, glasses, and platform sneakers. He has partnered with, uh, Louis Vuitton and a lot of other big name fashion, even made his debut during Paris Fashion Week in 2024 as a runway model.

• 46:35Travis McElroy?

  Eating a big old sandwich.

• 46:36Travis McElroy?

  Big slaps. Now I'm gonna tell you about this chicken, guys. This new flavor is made with a sweet and savory caramelized onion sauce and then topped with golden crunchy flakes. Creating a unique combination of flavor and texture.

• 46:50Travis McElroy?

  Flakes of what?

• 46:51Griffin McElroy?

  Flakes that, yeah, you can't just say a texture of, of flakes.

• 46:55Travis McElroy?

  Color, a texture and flakes.

• 46:57Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, guys. Tell me what the flakes are from.

• 46:59Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, guys, I know.

• 47:01Travis McElroy?

  Is it gold?

• 47:02Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, guys, I don't know. It's out there, though. You can get it. They began a soft launch of Feel Crunch Chicken at the select company-operated locations across the US on July 7th. And then the new menu item is officially launched on July 16th.

• 47:17Griffin McElroy?

  Okay, it's there.

• 47:18Travis McElroy?

  A longtime fan of Korea's finest fried chicken, Felix is often raved about BBQ Chicken's menu items, including the crispy Crunch Butter Chicken and the sweet and savory Jamaica Sotyok Mano Chicken. Now he's excited to help bring beloved Korean flavors like Feel Crunch Chicken to the US for fans to experience for the very first time. As global interest in Korean culture continues to grow beyond streaming screens and on to fast casual menus across the country, BBQ Chicken wanted us to find an opportunity to celebrate its authentic space in both, said BBQ Chicken US spokesperson.

• 47:55Travis McElroy?

  Felix has a genuine obsession with BBQ Chicken, which makes him the perfect fit for this brand ambassador role.

• 48:04Griffin McElroy?

  Have we heard from Felix yet? Cause so far it sounds like just a lot of people talking about how stoked Felix is.

• 48:09Travis McElroy?

  They swear. They swear. It says, quote, Feel Crunch Chicken was actually handpicked by Felix himself. And it highlights different elements of his favorite BBQ Chicken flavors. We're excited for his fans and other BBQ Chicken fans to taste it for themselves.

• 48:27Griffin McElroy?

  Does it say in there Felix would say all this shit himself, but his mouth is just perpetually full of our great crunchy chicken? Um, he can't talk right. He can't come to the phone right now because he's slamming a chicken sandwich.

• 48:42Travis McElroy?

  Uh, it was available at my US location, but it wasn't on the physical menu. I had to show them the ad on the website and ask if they had it. They had a picture of Felix on the wall.

• 48:55Travis McElroy?

  It certainly was crunchy.

• 48:57Griffin McElroy?

  What are you reading right now?

• 48:59Travis McElroy?

  Reviews, just the reviews, just the reviews of the product. I just had this today. It was so delicious. My family loves spicy food and had an amazing kick. Very crunchy, say the reviews.

• 49:10Griffin McElroy?

  Crunchy.

• 49:10Travis McElroy?

  Extremely crunchy.

• 49:11Travis McElroy?

  I put a link here in the chat to an image that might be

• 49:17Travis McElroy?

  the most clear example of photoshopping. Like the, these two separate entities of Felix and the plate of chicken. For you see, they have placed it in such a way that makes it seem as though his hand has been swallowed by the plate of chicken.

• 49:30Griffin McElroy?

  Like his hand or his hand is turned into it. Like he's the like he's the Terminator, the, the silver Terminator who can shapeshift his body. He's turned his hand into a big plate of the crunchy. No joke, the crunchiest chicken I've ever seen.

• 49:43Travis McElroy?

  It looks so, I have a picture of Felix with the chicken. This is the promotional image that was shared with this story. So this is, this is, it's Felix swears he likes a chicken.

• 49:55Griffin McElroy?

  He swears he likes.

• 49:56Travis McElroy?

  Swears he likes the chicken.

• 49:58Travis McElroy?

  The wink makes it seem like I'm not really eating this.

• 50:02Griffin McElroy?

  I don't really like chicken.

• 50:03Travis McElroy?

  It also seems like they're all trying to get a clip, like a noise of the crunch.

• 50:08Griffin McElroy?

  Of the crunch. Yeah. One of the one of a kind crunch feel crunch.

• 50:12Travis McElroy?

  I've gotta stop talking about fried chicken this close to lunch. I feel like I've started to get in this groove where it's like, I make myself so hungry and it's like 11 o'clock and I've still gotta do, you know?

• 50:25Travis McElroy?

  You wanna do a follow-up? I ate the popcorn chicken. I ordered it and ate it right after the thing.

• 50:31Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:32Travis McElroy?

  Okay, but Justin is correct. It wasn't the popcorn chicken of our youth.

• 50:37Griffin McElroy?

  Was that KFC? Who?

• 50:38Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, it was KFC, yeah.

• 50:40Travis McElroy?

  It lacked any kind of variety. It lacked the like, this has been fried in such a way that it's terrible for you. Kind of feeling that I crave.

• 50:49Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 50:50Travis McElroy?

  And I got some hot wings in there too, which I used to love. No flavor, all chemical heat.

• 50:56Griffin McElroy?

  Nothing's good.

• 50:57Travis McElroy?

  Nothing's good anymore.

• 51:00Travis McElroy?

  The brand partnership with Felix will continue beyond the launch as he will serve of the face of the brand.

• 51:06Griffin McElroy?

  He will serve of the face of the brand?

• 51:07Travis McElroy?

  He's the face of the, he's the face of it. If you go to BBQ chicken, there's, there's a big picture of Felix and it says, this is my chicken. I made it. This is how these things start, by the way. In 50 years, no one will remember stray kids. No one will remember their music. All they'll remember is chicken magnate Felix. It'll be Felix's BBQ and people like, did you know this guy used to be in K-pop? Before he became the world's biggest chicken guy?

• 51:34Travis McElroy?

  It's true. That's how it happens. Look at Kenny Rogers. You know, he used to sing.

• 51:38Griffin McElroy?

  That's crazy. Yeah.

• 51:39Travis McElroy?

  Before he started roasting chicken?

• 51:40Travis McElroy?

  Look at the Colonel. He used to be in the army, I think.

• 51:43Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 51:44Travis McElroy?

  Look at Randy Moss's Into Juice. Did you know he used to play football before he started running a juice place? It's true.

• 51:51Griffin McElroy?

  Those are the only two things he's known for.

• 51:52Travis McElroy?

  Look at Coach Bobby Pruitt's Steakhouse in Huntington, West Virginia. Did you know he was also the coach of the Marshall University football team? And not just the runner of Coach Bobby Pruitt's Steakhouse?

• 52:02Travis McElroy?

  Did you know that Papa Shaq used to be a basketball player, not just a pizza man?

• 52:09Griffin McElroy?

  Hmm. Well, he was an actor first and then he was a, and then he was a basketball player.

• 52:14Travis McElroy?

  Oh, yes. I always forget about his turn on the stage, trotting the boards.

• 52:19Griffin McElroy?

  How about another question?

• 52:20Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, absolutely. One of my close friends works at a fancy restaurant as a server. I recently hung out with her and her coworker, the dang sous chef, who mentioned they needed a line cook and offer onsite training. Naturally, I asked if I could drop off a resume for the position, but before I could even print out my resume, I was told I'd be staging.

• 52:39Travis McElroy?

  Staging.

• 52:40Travis McElroy?

  Staging.

• 52:43Travis McElroy?

  Staging in the kitchen.

• 52:45Travis McElroy?

  I learned about it from The Bear.

• 52:48Travis McElroy?

  I believe it's the bar. The bar. I've only had one cook job at a failing sports bar before this. How do I show up and keep their expectations proportional to the amount of experience I have? While also expressing genuine interest and willingness to learn? I really need the money. I got laid off my last job and this 2025 civic won't pay for itself. That's from Lily Vocation Hunter in Las Vegas.

• 53:11Travis McElroy?

  I love this.

• 53:12Griffin McElroy?

  Vocation Hunter.

• 53:13Travis McElroy?

  You, often people will be like, how do I impress them? And what you've done is said, how do I keep their expectations proportional to the amount of skill that I have? While also showing that I'm dedicated to getting better.

• 53:29Griffin McElroy?

  It's interesting.

• 53:30Travis McElroy?

  We can handle that.

• 53:32Travis McElroy?

  You, it's interesting.

• 53:35Travis McElroy?

  I hope you get this job, but you do have to understand that this particular technique was developed to catch people like you. Like this is the thing you, like, the reason they do it like this.

• 53:48Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. You were wise to write us. You identified the trap.

• 53:52Travis McElroy?

  Them. I only know you, but

• 53:53Griffin McElroy?

  Right.

• 53:54Travis McElroy?

  Like, this is why it's like this, right? So you, you have to do, do it. Cause they wanna try to, I think what they're trying to get is some of you can't do it. And who knows how to do it, maybe.

• 54:05Travis McElroy?

  But you run the risk of getting a really experienced person who's stuck in the ways of like, this is how I learned it in my old job. It doesn't fit in. You can come in just a rough lump of clay, right? And you're like, I don't know what I'm doing. And that's perfect. Shape me. I'll, I'll learn it however you want me to, cause I know nothing except like potato skins and like onion rings. And if you want those.

• 54:31Travis McElroy?

  Nothing to unlearn.

• 54:32Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, I could do that, but

• 54:33Travis McElroy?

  No bad habits. No habits.

• 54:35Travis McElroy?

  No habits at all.

• 54:38Griffin McElroy?

  Isn't, do you get paid for staging? I thought that was just sort of like an on the job training.

• 54:43Travis McElroy?

  It's a volunteer position.

• 54:45Griffin McElroy?

  It's a, yeah. So that, I mean, the learning that is going to happen there will be your only compensation. So if you think about it that way.

• 54:52Travis McElroy?

  So everybody in the kitchen gets paid except for the stage?

• 54:55Travis McElroy?

  But yeah, you don't stage forever.

• 54:56Griffin McElroy?

  Some places pay staging, but from what I understand, it's like a, it's like the lowest, lowest sort of position. Cause you're just kinda learning, you're learning the ropes. You're not like

• 55:05Travis McElroy?

  And if The Bear is correct, it's like a week.

• 55:08Griffin McElroy?

  It's not like you learn a week and you learn everything you need to know.

• 55:11Travis McElroy?

  God, they gotta find a lot of stages then. It's like 52 stages a week, a month, a year. I mean, there's a lot of

• 55:17Travis McElroy?

  Staging to then hire them full-time, if I understand correctly.

• 55:21Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 55:21Travis McElroy?

  Or they're just on the job training because another restaurant has sent them to stage.

• 55:26Griffin McElroy?

  Can you show up the first day of staging, you've got bandages all over both your hands. You say, I was playing Mario, I was playing Mario Party with the boys and

• 55:37Travis McElroy?

  With my one-eyed friend, uh, Odin.

• 55:40Griffin McElroy?

  And I

• 55:40Travis McElroy?

  He got real pissed.

• 55:42Griffin McElroy?

  I did the thing with the analog stick too hard and now I have blister, terrible blisters all over my hands. That way, when you do, if you do a bad job cooking, you can say like, if it weren't for these Mario Party blisters, you could say like, just wait till, wait till I get my cast off and then I'll, and now then I'm gonna really rock ass. You might be let go by that point, but at least you have sort of plausible deniability.

• 56:04Travis McElroy?

  And you know, the fact that they just straight up were like, don't even need a resume, come stage. They think you're cool, right? Like a big part of getting any job is seeming like someone that people would wanna work with. Right? They wouldn't have invited you to come stage if they weren't interested in hiring you.

• 56:21Travis McElroy?

  Now that, that desire may be somewhat diminished when they observe that you can't, cannot do the job you're being

• 56:26Travis McElroy?

  Can't do it.

• 56:27Travis McElroy?

  Sure. It's a good start. There's worse foundations to build from.

• 56:32Griffin McElroy?

  Maybe you've got skills

• 56:34Travis McElroy?

  Oh.

• 56:34Griffin McElroy?

  From your job, working at a failing sports bar. They need, they've gotten too fucking highfalutin. They keep reaching for that Michelin star. They're not getting it because there's something missing in the kitchen. And do you know what's missing in the kitchen is heart? And a love of, and a love of, and a love of the fun of, a love of the fun of food.

• 56:53Travis McElroy?

  A diamond.

• 56:53Griffin McElroy?

  You show up, you're like, what about buffalo? You guys forgot about buffalo wings. You forgot about mozzarella sticks and dipping sticks.

• 56:59Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, dude.

• 57:00Griffin McElroy?

  Like let's, what if we incorporated our high concept, high touch, high cuisine technique, but we did it with some mozzarella sticks and buffalo wings?

• 57:07Travis McElroy?

  Well, we put out a bowl of like old nuts that people can eat while we're making their food. And, um, without being asked, I went ahead and cut up all of these celery and carrot sticks.

• 57:18Griffin McElroy?

  Yes.

• 57:19Travis McElroy?

  So you're gonna just put that, I filled some ramekins with ranch.

• 57:22Travis McElroy?

  I got little pre-proportioned baggies. So I just throw them at people as they go through the chicken line.

• 57:27Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 57:28Travis McElroy?

  I'm renaming the place, by the way, to Chicken Line. Hope you like it.

• 57:31Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, cool.

• 57:33Travis McElroy?

  I own this bar now. This is the weirdest bar rescue. It's not a bar? Okay.

• 57:37Griffin McElroy?

  Not a bar.

• 57:38Travis McElroy?

  This has been undercover boss this whole time. I've been your boss.

• 57:41Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 57:42Travis McElroy?

  Did you know? No, that's not how undercover boss works.

• 57:45Travis McElroy?

  Sadly.

• 57:45Travis McElroy?

  I think it is. I think undercover boss.

• 57:48Griffin McElroy?

  I do, I've never seen it, but I do think that's how it works.

• 57:50Travis McElroy?

  I've been your boss the whole time now.

• 57:53Travis McElroy?

  Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We hope you've enjoyed yourself. Hope you learned something. Hope you grew. Uh, a little bit as a person. Thank you so much for sticking with us. Uh, hey, listen, if you like video games or me and Griffin, The Besties, our video game podcast that I used to be on, Griffin continues to, to, to craft, uh, The Besties Live on Broadway is happening October 9th. At the Town Hall in New York City. You can get your tickets now at bit.ly forward slash besties on Broadway.

• 58:23Griffin McElroy?

  Come see us. We're gonna talk about game, games.

• 58:25Travis McElroy?

  Uh, also I'm gonna be at Gen Con this weekend. Yeah. Uh, as you're listening to this, I'm doing Dungeon Crawler Carl, uh, like our actual play role playing game, uh, Friday night. With a lot of really cool people, including Matt Denman, who writes it and Jeff Hayes, who does the, uh, voice work for the audiobooks. Um, and so I'm gonna be in that Sunday morning. I'm gonna guest as, uh, an NPC in, uh, 20-sided tavern. Uh, I'm doing a bunch of other stuff. We'll post, uh, the schedule and everything, but come see me. Come hang out at Gen Con. Griffin, what are you reading there?

• 59:02Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, you've caught me reading the Adventure Zone Story and Song Graphic Novel, the last entry in our adaptation of the Adventure Zone Balance Saga that is out now. And, um, you can get it at bookstores where fine books are sold or at theadventurzonecomic.com. This book is the biggest book ever written and has more pictures in it than any book ever illustrated.

• 59:22Travis McElroy?

  That's true.

• 59:22Griffin McElroy?

  Carrie, Carrie Peach, who is at the, the height of her power. And I'm so proud of it and I kick so much ass. If you like Taz, if you like Taz Balance, uh, you gotta read it. You simply must. And it's, it's the best thing we've ever done. So proud of it. Hey, we're gonna be doing Clubhouse next week also, when you're hearing this. So join us on Tuesday. And every Tuesday on YouTube at the McRoy family, we do Clubhouse and we also do a bunch of game stuff with the Super McRoy Brothers product. And, uh, we all do a bunch of different like individual streams. Justin's doing a retrospective of Tim Curry. Travis, are you still playing Timberborne, Trav?

• 59:56Travis McElroy?

  Uh, well, after this, I'm gonna stream some Stardew Valley. I gotta like chill game sesh going.

• 1:00:03Griffin McElroy?

  Kick ass. I, I, I'm keeping a catalog of every video game I've ever played called Every Game Ever on Fridays. So we stream a lot. Follow the McRoy family on YouTube or McRoy Entertainment System on Instagram. You can find out when all that stuff is coming. We also got merch over at mcroymerch.com. Travis has a beautiful little butterfly.

• 1:00:19Travis McElroy?

  I have a 3D printed butterfly that I can throw. It's very fragile.

• 1:00:24Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, it's cute. I, I don't think it'll make a great, do you have something cool you can throw it at that it'll make like a more resonant sort of sound?

• 1:00:33Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. So put the iHeartRadio award right next to the microphone.

• 1:00:37Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38Griffin McElroy?

  Like right as close to the mic as you can get it.

• 1:00:40Travis McElroy?

  Off the

• 1:00:41Griffin McElroy?

  And dink it off that. Yeah. Yeah. But can you lower your microphone? So it's like right next to the trophy?

• 1:00:45Travis McElroy?

  Well, I still need room to throw it.

• 1:00:47Griffin McElroy?

  Okay.

• 1:00:47Travis McElroy?

  That's good.

• 1:00:48Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, no, it's a small window, but you got it. Here we go.

• 1:00:52Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:53Griffin McElroy?

  You fucking completely missed. Do it again. I need that dink.

• 1:00:56Travis McElroy?

  It turned in the air.

• 1:00:57Griffin McElroy?

  I need the dink, Travis.

• 1:00:58Travis McElroy?

  Did it go? There it is. This is a podcast. I'll do it from under the desk.

• 1:01:02Griffin McElroy?

  Okay, but throw it hard though. I need to hear that. I need the dink.

• 1:01:07Travis McElroy?

  No, I think I know.

• 1:01:09Griffin McElroy?

  There we go. There's that dink. That was more of a dank. That was cool.

• 1:01:12Travis McElroy?

  My name is Justin McRoy. I'm Travis McRoy.

• 1:01:15Griffin McElroy?

  I'm Griffin McRoy.

• 1:01:16Travis McElroy?

  This is my brother, my brother, me kiss your dad square on the lips.