Real People. Real Crimes. | Introducing CRIMES OF REDDIT

Reddit is an endless archive of humanity’s most disturbing, bizarre, and deeply human stories. If you love going down internet rabbit holes, you are going to love CRIMES OF REDDIT with Alexis Linkletter and Sabrina Deana-Roga. Every Tuesday, one host brings a set of true-crime stories while the other reacts in real time with no prep, no spoilers asking the questions on everyone’s mind. They pull at every thread until the whole twisted picture comes into view. It’s dark, it’s messy, and the scariest part is simple: THESE ARE STORIES POSTED BY REAL PEOPLE. Follow CRIMES OF REDDIT for a new episode every Tuesday. https://pod.link/1838511303 CRIMES OF REDDIT is a Crime House original powered by PAVE Studios. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Payton Moreland?

  Hi listeners, it's Peyton here. And if you're enjoying murder with my husband, then I have something to share with you that I think you will love. It's the new show Crimes of Reddit with Sabrina Deana Roga from Two Girls, One Ghost, and Alexis Linkletter from The First Degree. If you love falling down into internet rabbit holes, then you need to follow Crimes of Reddit wherever you listen to podcasts. Every Tuesday on Crimes of Reddit, Sabrina and Alexis dig through Reddit's most disturbing true crime threads. From stories of stalkers to family crimes and horrifying roommate stories. They pull at every thread until the full twisted picture comes into view.

• 0:42Payton Moreland?

  It's dark, it's messy, and the scariest part is simple. These are stories posted by real people. This show has the feeling of sending your group chat a thread at 2:00 AM that starts with, "You have to see this." Except Sabrina and Alexis are in the chat with you. We have a preview clip of an episode for you now. And if you love it, make sure to follow Crimes of Reddit with Sabrina Deana Roga and Alexis Linkletter on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or subscribe on YouTube for video episodes at Crimes of Reddit Pod. We'll also put a link in this episode description.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  My mother-in-law suddenly passed away in a car accident last month. At the same time, my stalker disappeared.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Coincidence? Probably not.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Probably not.

• 1:26Speaker 02

  Oh, that's so sad.

• 1:28Speaker 01

  Messed up. So my mother-in-law and I have never had a good relationship. She has tried to sabotage my relationship with my husband since the day she met me. I wasn't good enough for her handsome and successful boy.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Which is a crime on its own, of like, women protecting their sons like this and being obsessive with their children.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  My handsome, successful boy. Give me a break. Anyways, so.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  You can think your child is successful without being obsessed with them.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  And you can think they're handsome without babying an adult man.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58Speaker 01

  I contemplated ending, I contemplated ending my relationship several times, but my husband always showed that he is on my side and I love him.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  Okay, that's good.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  A few years ago, I started getting very threatening and scary emails and texts from a Pax. So Pax is the name of the texter emailer. This Pax knew everything about me. It didn't matter how many emails and phone numbers I changed. They or he always found me. I made several reports, but nothing happened. My husband tried everything to trace these emails. Nothing came out of it.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Okay, so this is going in the direction of, what's that documentary where like the mom was?

• 2:38Speaker 01

  That documentary, Unknown Number. Yeah.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Okay, so this is the direction it's going in. Because I, when you read that subreddit or the title of the post, I thought it was gonna be like, the stalker accidentally killed the mother-in-law. But now we're like, oh, okay, okay.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, and to torment your own high school daughter is so deranged. It's like, that is a dangerous, dangerous woman. And we'll talk about how tangled relationships are when you even find out your parent is doing something like this, how hard it would be to accept.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  But the husband in this situation was really helpful in trying to get to the bottom.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Which I appreciate. Great, great husband. Green flag there.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  Totally. So no matter what, Pax always found her. And she was under the impression that Pax was a guy, based on the language that was being used. And the original poster says, "I made several reports, but nothing happened. And this past year, I basically never left the apartment alone." So saying that she got so scared of this, that it was, she was afraid to leave the house.

• 3:51Speaker 02

  To be alone, yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  So she says, "I haven't received a single threatening text or email from Pax in a month. After a few days, I wasn't surprised. I felt like I always knew it was my mother-in-law, deep down. My husband hasn't reacted yet. He's consumed with his grief and I don't want to bother him. Especially when he bitterly told me, 'You must be very pleased now,' when we heard the news and I tried to comfort him. He apologized later and said he was just feeling guilty that he loved and chose me more than he loved her."

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Well, that's so complicated.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  That's so complicated. And also, it would be one thing to find out your mom was this like Pax person while she's still alive. But to be dealing with the grief of losing your mom, regardless of how complicated your relationship is, like you could hate your parent. And if they die, people still have so much grief and that like feeling of loss.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  It's primal. I mean, they're the most foundational relationships human beings can have. I mean, they mold who we are and we feel totally intertwined with them. So it makes total sense, like it's impossible to let go.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  That's so sad.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  So she continues.

• 5:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  "Now I'm waiting for my husband to connect the dots. Will he get it? If he does, will he talk to me about it? I don't know if I will ever bring it up to him. Also, I won't relax and go back to my normal life just yet. But I know in my heart that it's over and I can't be happier about my life."

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, and she's entitled to feel that relief because she was being tormented by this woman. Also, I'm curious if, and maybe this will be in updates, but when like you lose someone and you like start to go through their things, do they find anything that proves?

• 5:44Speaker 01

  I've actually heard a lot of stories like that.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Where, you know, one story I heard was this woman was dealing with like constant, people stealing her identity constantly. And like basically, her financial life was in ruins. And when her mom died, she found all the documents that it was her mom. And then it's like, you can't do anything with the anger.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Because they're gone.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Ugh.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  So do you think you'd tell the husband or do you think you'd wait?

• 6:08Speaker 02

  I would wait because I would empathize so much with their processing the grief. And then I would be able to like sit with my relief of it being over, but I wouldn't want to throw that on them.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  What about you?

• 6:20Speaker 01

  I think I would have started accusing the mother-in-law the second I suspected it. Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of like.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  I'm not, I can't be calculating like that.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  So my husband, at the time of her death, would have already known that I thought it was her.

• 6:33Speaker 02

  I do agree with that, but I think if you didn't put it together until after, I wouldn't.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  Yes. Choose then.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wouldn't.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  To bring it up for the first time.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:43Payton Moreland?

  Thanks for listening to this preview of Crimes of Reddit with Sabrina Deana Roga and Alexis Linkletter. Follow Crimes of Reddit on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or subscribe on YouTube at Crimes of Reddit Pod for video episodes.