EP. 260 - MASSACHUSETTS: THE LINDSAY CLANCY CASE PT. 2: THAT WINTER NIGHT

In Part two of this three-part series, we walk second-by-second through January 24th, 2023, a day that changed Duxbury, Massachusetts, and the Clancy family forever. On that day, police arrived at the peaceful family home belonging to Lindsay and Patrick Clancy to discover the most horrific scene of their career: Lindsay, clinging to life in the snow outside after an apparent suicide attempt, and inside, the bodies of Cora, Dawson, and Callan Clancy, strangled to death in the basement of their own home. - Sources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eTYeCoYyxm58DXXdoFbHQyWHlWbcH9iKGIefFcQToW4/edit?tab=t.y2yayotxnlcb Listen to our new show, "THE CONSPIRACY FILES"!: -Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/5IY9nWD2MYDzlSYP48nRPl -Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-conspiracy-files/id1752719844 -Amazon/Audible - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ab1ade99-740c-46ae-8028-b2cf41eabf58/the-conspiracy-files -Pandora - https://www.pandora.com/podcast/the-conspiracy-files/PC:1001089101 -iHeart - https://iheart.com/podcast/186907423/ -PocketCast - https://pca.st/dpdyrcca -CastBox - https://castbox.fm/channel/id6193084?country=us - Stay Connected: Join the Murder in America fam in our free Facebook Community for a behind-the-scenes look, more insights and current events in the true crime world: https://www.facebook.com/groups/4365229996855701 If you want even more Murder in America bonus content, including ad-free episodes, come join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderinamerica Instagram: http://instagram.com/murderinamerica/ Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/people/Murder-in-America-Podcast/100086268848682/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderInAmerica TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theparanormalfiles and https://www.tiktok.com/@courtneybrowen Feeling spooky? Follow Colin as he travels state to state (and even country to country!) investigating claims of extreme paranormal activity and visiting famous haunted locations on The Paranormal Files Official Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheParanormalFilesOfficialChannel - (c) BLOOD IN THE SINK PRODUCTIONS 2026 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:57Courtney Brown?

  Trigger warnings from the stories we cover may include violence, rape, murder, and offenses against children.

• 2:03Colin Brown?

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• 2:08Courtney Brown?

  In part one of this story, we talked about the life of Lindsay Musgrove Clancy, a woman from Connecticut who always knew she wanted to work in healthcare. After college, Lindsay got married to Patrick Clancy and began a career as a labor and delivery nurse in Boston, Massachusetts. Her patients and her coworkers said that she was the perfect person for the job. Lindsay was kind and compassionate. She loved working with mothers and their babies. And soon enough, Lindsay became a mom herself. Over the years, she had three beautiful children, Cora, Dawson, and Callan. But after Callan's birth, Lindsay experienced something many mothers go through: postpartum depression and anxiety.

• 2:50Courtney Brown?

  Lindsay knew something was wrong, so she sought out psychiatric help. In the fall of 2022, after seeing a psychiatrist, she started taking antidepressants. But the medication wasn't working. Desperate for help, she continued seeing her doctor. She even changed her medication time and time again, hoping that something would work. But nothing ever did. And with each month, her mental health continued to spiral. Towards the end of 2022 and beginning of 2023, Lindsay had been prescribed a total of 13 medications. She journaled and read books about postpartum depression. She wrote in private mom forums on social media. She called two different suicide hotlines.

• 3:32Courtney Brown?

  She tried out a partial hospitalization program, and she even admitted herself into a psychiatric hospital. But in the end, nothing worked. In part one of this story, we talked about everything leading up to January 24th, 2023. And today's episode will be about that fateful day and everything leading up to Lindsay's trial. Then in part three, we will talk about the trial itself and all of the media surrounding this story. But before we get into everything, I want to add an extra disclaimer. In this episode, we will be discussing topics of suicide, postpartum depression and anxiety, postpartum psychosis, and the murder of three children, who are the victims in this story. I also want to emphasize that I am not a doctor, and although I have done a ton of

• 4:17Courtney Brown?

  research on postpartum in my undergrad studies, I am not an expert. And as always, please consult your doctor about all health-related topics discussed in this episode. The last thing I want to mention is that information continues to come out about this case every day. And while we have tried our best to be as factual as possible, there's always a possibility that new information can come out, changing the story. So our main focus here is to tell you the facts, using information that has come out during Lindsay's trial. And we are going to try our best to be as unbiased as we can, so that you can form your own opinions. But with that being said, this is the story of Lindsay Clancy. I'm Courtney Brown.

• 4:58Colin Brown?

  And I'm Colin Brown.

• 4:59Courtney Brown?

  And you're listening to Murder in America.

• 5:59Courtney Brown?

  In the early morning hours of January 24th, 2023, Lindsay Clancy couldn't fall asleep. She had been tossing and turning all night long, an ongoing side effect from her medication. Lindsay's psychiatrist, Dr. Jennifer Tufts, had just increased her dosage on the new antidepressant she was taking, amitriptyline. It was the 13th medication she had been prescribed in the last four months. But soon enough, the morning light began to shine through Lindsay's bedroom window. By the end of that day, that window would hold an entirely different purpose. But for now, the light shining through meant it was time to get up and start her day. Just like she had done for the past few months, Lindsay got up, got dressed, and made breakfast

• 6:42Courtney Brown?

  for her children: five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson, and eight-month-old Callan. After breakfast, Lindsay got Cora dressed for her doctor's appointment. Cora had been having some stomach problems. There was also concern she might have a UTI. Cora's preschool teacher said that she hadn't been feeling well the day before. So at 8:00 a.m., Lindsay and Cora arrived at her pediatrician's office. As she and Cora waited in one of the rooms, Patrick sent her a text message. It was a picture of Dawson with his arms in the air. He was so excited because he had dressed himself for the very first time. Lindsay liked the photo with the heart emoji. She then sent a picture of Cora sitting on the examination table. Patrick responded.

• 7:25Colin Brown?

  Cutie.

• 7:27Courtney Brown?

  Lindsay loved her children. There's no denying that. It was exactly why she was sitting at the doctor's office with Cora that morning. The Clancy children had been to the doctor a lot in the past couple months. As Lindsay's mental health worsened, she had become overly paranoid about her children's health. According to Patrick, when Cora had a stomach ache, Lindsay worried that it was a problem with her liver. Symptoms of a UTI made her think there was something wrong with Cora's kidneys. A small vein on Cora's nose had Lindsay believing that she had a gene mutation. So if any of her children weren't feeling well, Lindsay was quick to get it checked. But Patrick would later say that he wasn't concerned about Cora's stomach issues, and he hoped that after speaking with Cora's pediatrician, it would, quote, "bring Lindsay

• 8:11Courtney Brown?

  back to reality."

• 8:13Colin Brown?

  The Clancys had been seeing their pediatrician, Dr. Lindsay Rochert, for the last four years. And through her time knowing the family, Dr. Rochert believed that Lindsay was a great mom. On that morning, as Lindsay sat across from her, telling her Cora's symptoms, nothing seemed to miss. Dr. Rochert suggested that Cora might be constipated, so she recommended Miralax, a stool softener. She told Lindsay that if Cora still wasn't better, she should schedule another appointment in two weeks. During this appointment, they also tested Cora's urine. Luckily, everything looked fine.

• 8:45Courtney Brown?

  Around this time, Patrick sent Lindsay another text message.

• 8:49Colin Brown?

  How's it going?

• 8:50Courtney Brown?

  Good. Her urine looked good, so nothing's wrong with her kidneys. Phew.

• 8:55Colin Brown?

  Good.

• 8:56Courtney Brown?

  After Cora's doctor's appointment, they made their way back home to 47 Summer Street in Duxbury, Massachusetts. It was a cold winter morning. Heavy snow had fallen the night before. Lindsay pulled her black Kia Sorento into the driveway. Then, once inside, she and Cora removed their winter clothing. Patrick had a busy workday ahead, so he went down to the basement to work, while Lindsay took over watching the three children. Now Cora and Dawson didn't have preschool on Tuesdays, so Lindsay did her best to fill the day with fun activities. That morning, the kids made art projects. Lindsay made them lunch. Then later that afternoon, Lindsay even took the children to the backyard to build a snowman.

• 9:38Courtney Brown?

  When they were finished, she took a picture of Cora and Dawson standing next to the snowman, and she sent it to her mom, Paula. Paula later texted her back, saying, That's a big roll of snow. I was wondering if you got enough for the kids to play. And it's a pretty nice day to give them something to do on a day without school. Get the hot chocolate ready.

• 9:58Colin Brown?

  Lindsay also sent the picture of Cora and Dawson to Patrick. Moments later, he responded, Oh, wow. You're a good mama.

• 10:06Courtney Brown?

  The image of that day was about as picturesque as it can get. The Clancys were a respected family, Lindsay a labor and delivery nurse, Patrick worked for Microsoft. They lived in a nice home. They had three beautiful children, children who were running around in the backyard, laughing and playing in the snow. Patrick Clancy later said that throughout the day, he would go upstairs from time to time, and everything seemed completely fine. The kids were having fun, and Lindsay seemed to be happy.

• 10:35Colin Brown?

  No, she's having one of her best days.

• 10:37Courtney Brown?

  But sadly, everything was about to change. Now this next part is where things are being heavily debated online. So we will tell you what happened next, based on the evidence later uncovered.

• 10:50Colin Brown?

  At 4:02 PM, Lindsay grabbed her phone and looked up Miralax, the stool softener that Cora's pediatrician recommended. She looked up if there was a kid's version, and there was. It's called Pedialax. The next thing we see on Lindsay's phone is a restaurant. She looked up a place called 3V, and at 4:13 PM, she put the restaurant into her Google Maps to see how far away it was from their home. It was 5.8 miles. Now, from here, about 30 minutes passed with no phone activity. Then at 4:43 PM, she looks up 3V's menu.

• 11:24Courtney Brown?

  Next, at 4:48 PM, Lindsay called their local CVS to ask if they carried Pedialax, and the employee, manager Angela Kraus, confirmed that they did carry it. She said it would be found on aisle 13 and 20. So with the confirmation that they had the medicine Cora needed, Lindsay hung up. Angela Kraus would later say that Lindsay sounded completely normal. Nothing seemed to miss.

• 11:49Colin Brown?

  Now, from here at 4:53 PM, Lindsay sent a text to Patrick, who was still working down in the basement.

• 11:55Courtney Brown?

  Any chance you want to do takeout from 3V? I didn't cook anything. It's been a long day.

• 12:01Colin Brown?

  Patrick would later say that this was an unusual request. They usually got takeout from Chestnut Street Grill, a restaurant that was only 2.8 miles from their home. They had eaten at 3V before, but it was a further drive about 5.8 miles away. But nonetheless, Patrick agreed on picking up takeout from 3V. Lindsay responded.

• 12:20Courtney Brown?

  Okey dokey. Check the menu when you can.

• 12:24Colin Brown?

  Soon after, Patrick texted Lindsay his order. Then at 5:10 PM, Lindsay called the 3V restaurant and placed a takeout order. She got a Mediterranean bowl without protein for her and the scallop and pork belly risotto for Patrick. She also told them that Patrick would be picking up the order. Once again, the hostess at the restaurant said that Lindsay sounded completely normal.

• 12:46Courtney Brown?

  Now, at this point, Patrick was finishing up work. So once he came up the basement stairs, Lindsay asked him, "Could you pick up Cora's medicine from CVS while you're out?" Patrick agreed. He would later say that before leaving, he grabbed Callan and swung him between his legs. He kissed Cora on the forehead and then waved goodbye to Dawson, who was sitting on the couch eating chicken nuggets and green beans. Patrick then put on his coat and yelled out to his family, "I'll be right back." Now later on, Patrick would be asked a very important question. If your wife told you she had thoughts of harming your children, why would you leave her alone with them? Patrick would later say that he had no reason to fear leaving the children with Lindsay. She seemed to be having a good day. In the weeks leading up to January 24th,

• 13:31Courtney Brown?

  he had already gone out several times while Lindsay stayed home with the kids. She had been interacting with them, sending photos and appearing more like herself. He said that nothing that afternoon suggested anything was wrong. Patrick later told The New Yorker, quote, "So what do you do? Somebody's having a great day. Should I call the hotline?" end quote. Now at 5:15 PM, Lindsay texted him a picture of the Pedialax he was supposed to pick up from CVS. Patrick also claims that he left the house at 5:15 PM. But footage from inside the CVS shows Patrick walking through the doors at 5:32 PM, 17 minutes after he said he left his house. Now, the CVS is just a three-minute drive from their home,

• 14:15Courtney Brown?

  and it's unclear why there are 14 minutes unaccounted for. But before Patrick Clancy is even seen walking into the CVS, we want to discuss some activity going on at the Clancy home. At 5:23 PM, Lindsay's Apple Watch, that she always wore, is shut off. However, it's unclear whether it was manually turned off or if it died. At 5:24 PM, one minute after Lindsay's Apple Watch is shut off, Patrick Clancy sends a work email. Later at trial, attorney Kevin Reddington asks Patrick if the email was sent from his Surface Pro, which is the laptop he worked from in the basement of their home.

• 14:55Speaker 05

  Does it indicate the date and the time at the very top you sent that email to your staff?

• 15:03Speaker 06

  It does, yep.

• 15:04Speaker 05

  Tell us your, is what the date was?

• 15:07Speaker 06

  It's January 24th at 5:24.

• 15:11Speaker 05

  And that was sent from your Surface Pro?

• 15:14Speaker 06

  I don't know, actually. It could have been sent from my iPhone.

• 15:18Courtney Brown?

  At 5:32 PM, eight minutes after sending that work email, we see Patrick walk into the CVS. Surveillance footage shows him walking straight to the pediatric aisle at the end of the store. Patrick scans the shelves for the stool softener, but he can't find it. He later said that it was during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and almost all of the medications were not fully stocked. Now, he said that they had a generic brand of Pedialax, but not the brand that Lindsay requested. So, wanting to get the correct one, he pulled out his cellphone and called Lindsay at 5:33 PM. But it rang and rang without an answer.

• 15:59Colin Brown?

  Back at the Clancy home, even though Lindsay's Apple Watch is turned off, we still see some movement. Around the time that Patrick calls her at 5:33 PM, Lindsay's iPhone shows that she went up a flight of stairs. Then, at 5:34 PM, just one minute after Patrick calls her, Lindsay calls him back. Here's Patrick describing that phone call.

• 16:22Speaker 06

  It was very brief. I just said, "I think there was a generic brand." And I said, "Is this one okay?" And she said, "Yeah, that's fine."

• 16:29Speaker 07

  And what was her demeanor during the call?

• 16:32Speaker 06

  Um, she was pretty quiet. It sounded like she was busy. I remember hanging up, thinking she's probably in the middle of giving baths or something like that.

• 16:43Colin Brown?

  The conversation only lasted 14 seconds, but according to Patrick, Lindsay confirmed that the generic medication was fine. So from there, Patrick walked to the register and purchased the medication as well as a pack of Wildberry Skittles. He then left CVS at 5:37 PM and drove to 3V to pick up their takeout. Now, 3V was about 4.5 miles from the CVS, roughly a 10-minute drive. Footage from the restaurant shows Patrick walking inside at 5:54 PM. After speaking with the hostess, she hands over the food that was under his name, and he leaves at 5:55 PM. Patrick was in and out of the restaurant in about a minute. Then from there, he gets in his truck to drive back home.

• 17:26Colin Brown?

  The trip from the restaurant back to their house in Duxbury took him roughly 12 minutes.

• 17:31Courtney Brown?

  According to Patrick, he arrived home at 6:09 PM. He parked his white Chevy Silverado next to Lindsay's black Kia SUV in the driveway. Then, with the CVS bag and the takeout in hand, he entered the house through the side door near the garage. Patrick said he took off his boots and placed the CVS bag and the takeout bag on the kitchen island. But something was odd. The house was eerily quiet. He couldn't hear his three children or Lindsay. Patrick said he called out, saying that he was home, but there was no answer. So from there, he walked towards the basement door. He noticed that the door was shut, but the light was on. Now, this wasn't unusual. Patrick always tried to keep the door shut,

• 18:15Courtney Brown?

  and Lindsay had the habit of keeping the light on. So Patrick opened the door. In front of him were the stairs leading down into the basement. Patrick said he called out, but again, no answer. For a moment, he said he wondered if Lindsay had left the house. He tried to remember whether he had seen her car in the driveway. He later admitted that sometimes it was hard to tell in the dark because her car was black. But it's here, where he pulled out his cellphone and called Lindsay at 6:09 PM. However, again, she didn't answer. Patrick said he then walked away from the basement and went upstairs to the second floor of the home. He said he checked the bathroom, thinking the children might be taking their baths, but they weren't in the bathroom.

• 19:00Courtney Brown?

  Next, he started checking the children's rooms. But behind each and every door was an empty room. However, there was still one room to check, he and Lindsay's room. As he approached the door, it was closed. So he reached out his hand and twisted the knob. But it didn't budge. The door was locked. Patrick would later say that it was in that moment when he knew something was terribly wrong.

• 19:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, the previous owners, when they installed the doorknobs, had these, like, these little keys that they taped to the back of each door. So I got the one from Cora's room, and I started unlocking the knob.

• 19:40Courtney Brown?

  When Patrick finally opened the door, he found another empty room, one that looked nothing like the room he slept in the night before. For one, the bed had been pulled away from the wall, and a window was wide open. A cold winter breeze rushed into the room, making the curtains flap against the wall. Lindsay's cellphone was right there on the bed. But most notably was the crimson red around the room. Patrick said the blood was everywhere, on the floor, on the nightstand near the bed, on the walls.

• 20:10Speaker 06

  It was everywhere. It was, it looked like it was sprayed almost with like a hose. And there was a huge puddle in the middle of the room, and it was sprayed all over the, pretty much every surface. I remember it was on the doorknob.

• 20:27Courtney Brown?

  Now, Patrick claimed that he only took a few steps into the room, but seeing the blood and seeing that the window was opened, he immediately turned around and ran down the stairs. He exited the house through the backsliding glass door and quickly scanned the backyard, where he said he made a shocking discovery. There, lying in the snow, directly beneath the open second-story window, was his wife, Lindsay Clancy. She was lying face up. She had cuts on both her wrists and another cut across her throat. Patrick ran to her side and saw that Lindsay was still alive. And it's there where he asked her, "What happened?" Lindsay was barely conscious, but Patrick said that she told him, "I tried to kill myself." He said he asked where the kids were, and Lindsay responded,

• 21:12Courtney Brown?

  quote, "They're in the basement."

• 21:14Speaker 06

  I said, "Where are the kids?"

• 21:15Speaker 07

  And what was her response?

• 21:16Speaker 06

  She said, "They're in the basement."

• 21:18Speaker 07

  And at that time, she didn't tell you that they needed help or they were in danger or they were injured, correct?

• 21:25Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 21:27Colin Brown?

  Patrick said he pulled out his cellphone and attempted to call 911, but he had trouble. He said his phone kept switching between Wi-Fi and the cellular network, so the call wouldn't go through. He said for a brief moment, he almost started screaming for the neighbors, but finally, after a couple of minutes, the call went through at 6:11 PM. Now, the 911 call hasn't been released to the public, but there is a transcript that Courtney and I will read from.

• 21:54Colin Brown?

  My wife tried to commit suicide.

• 21:56Courtney Brown?

  Explain how she tried to commit suicide. Where is she now?

• 22:00Colin Brown?

  Stay awake.

• 22:01Courtney Brown?

  How old is she?

• 22:02Colin Brown?

  Thirty-one to thirty-three.

• 22:03Courtney Brown?

  Is she awake?

• 22:04Colin Brown?

  Yes.

• 22:05Courtney Brown?

  Is she breathing?

• 22:06Colin Brown?

  Yeah, Lindsay, what did you do to your neck? She's talking.

• 22:09Courtney Brown?

  When?

• 22:10Colin Brown?

  Last half hour.

• 22:11Courtney Brown?

  How far did she fall?

• 22:13Colin Brown?

  Twenty feet.

• 22:14Courtney Brown?

  Is she responding normally?

• 22:15Colin Brown?

  A little bit. Wake up!

• 22:17Courtney Brown?

  What part of the body was injured?

• 22:19Colin Brown?

  Neck. She's breathing. Lindsay, look at me. Look at me!

• 22:22Courtney Brown?

  Are there weapons?

• 22:23Colin Brown?

  I don't see any. Where are the kids?

• 22:25Courtney Brown?

  Do not move her.

• 22:27Colin Brown?

  Open your eyes. Can someone... Okay, Lindsay, look at me. Open your eyes.

• 22:31Courtney Brown?

  I'm going to tell you how to stop the bleeding.

• 22:33Colin Brown?

  It's not bleeding, it's open wounds. She's in the backyard. Is there something on your neck? A knife or something?

• 22:39Courtney Brown?

  Can you put pressure on it?

• 22:41Colin Brown?

  Lindsay, wake up. Put pressure on the cut. Lindsay, look at me. Say my name. She's conscious.

• 22:47Courtney Brown?

  Don't move her. Tell her to be still. I'm going to stay on the line with you. Is there a fence?

• 22:52Colin Brown?

  Right here, right here. I need you to stay and go check on my kids.

• 22:57Courtney Brown?

  Now, as you just heard, during the 911 call, two officers arrived on scene. Their names were Stephen Hall and Brian Josephine of the Duxbury Police Department. Officer Josephine was the first to arrive, about three to four minutes after Patrick called 911. Here he is explaining what he saw when he walked into the backyard.

• 23:17Speaker 06

  Away, I observed two parties, one lying in the ground and one standing over it.

• 23:23Colin Brown?

  Obviously, the person on the ground was Lindsay, and the person standing over her was Patrick. But here's what Officer Josephine observed next.

• 23:31Speaker 06

  Um, he was standing over, um, Lindsay at that point. Um, it appeared that he was trying to communicate with her. I observed him with a cellphone. Um, it was kind of down by his side, so I don't know if they were talking or what, but it was probably a split second, and then he turned to my location, saw me, because I was illuminating the yard with my flashlight, and then that's when me and him crossed paths.

• 23:57Courtney Brown?

  Patrick had stayed by Lindsay's side for several minutes until police arrived. And when the officers stepped into the backyard, that's when he went inside to check on the children. Here is Officer Josephine explaining Patrick's movements.

• 24:11Speaker 06

  He was heading, I believe, up towards the deck. Um, yeah, obviously, I didn't know it at that time, but he was just walking past me pretty fast in an abrupt manner.

• 24:23Colin Brown?

  From here, the officers turned their attention to Lindsay. Here's Officer Hall explaining what he saw.

• 24:29Speaker 06

  Uh, she was on the ground on, if you were looking at the backyard on the right side. Uh, she had cuts to both wrists and to the left side of her neck.

• 24:40Courtney Brown?

  But strangely enough, none of her wounds were actively bleeding. The officers also saw that Lindsay was still conscious, but barely.

• 24:49Speaker 06

  Uh, semi-conscious, in and out of consciousness. She would wake up and, uh, move around and then, uh, kind of just go still again.

• 24:58Colin Brown?

  In her semi-conscious state, Officer Josephine said that he started talking to Lindsay.

• 25:03Speaker 06

  I just was trying to get basic information, um, where she was hurt, where she needed attention, anything I could do to kind of help her until fire arrived.

• 25:13Courtney Brown?

  But it appeared as if Lindsay was unable to speak. Her head would move around, but when they asked her questions, all she could do was moan. It was clear she was in a lot of pain. Now, while the officers were with Lindsay in the backyard, they heard the sounds of sirens coming from down the street. More help was right around the corner. Officer Hall ran out the back gate and waved the fire department over. But it's around this time when they heard a sound.

• 25:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, I heard a, uh, a loud scream from inside. It was just a sound. Uh, myself and Officer Josephine ran towards the slider and entered into the house.

• 25:49Courtney Brown?

  Once inside, the officers were standing in the kitchen, but they followed Patrick Clancy's voice and eventually found him in the basement.

• 25:57Speaker 06

  So we went down the stairs and there was a picture at the bottom of the stairs, I believe, of Lindsay, Lindsay and Patrick. And the basement splits off into two, a right and a left area. And the screams were coming from the right area, so that's where we directed our attention to first.

• 26:13Courtney Brown?

  Upon turning the corner, they saw Patrick. He was coming from a back room when he uttered a sentence they would never be able to forget, quote, "She killed the fucking kids." Here is Officer Josephine describing that moment.

• 26:27Speaker 06

  Um, upon his observation of us, uh, myself and Officer Hall, he proceeded to head in our direction, leaving that room. And at that point, he looked up and he screamed, "She killed the fucking kids."

• 26:41Courtney Brown?

  Now, according to Patrick, moments earlier, once the officers arrived on scene, he went into the house to check on his children. He said he knew exactly where to look because Lindsay told him they're in the basement. So Patrick ran down the basement steps, still on the phone with 911. As he went down the stairs, he began calling out for them. "Guys, guys?" Patrick yelled. No answer. Once he made it down the stairs, he said he spotted Cora lying on the floor in the den area. She was face down with a black exercise band tied tightly around her neck. Based on the 911 transcript, here is what was said.

• 27:18Colin Brown?

  "Oh no! Oh no! Wake up!"

• 27:20Courtney Brown?

  What is he screaming about?

• 27:22Colin Brown?

  "Oh my God!"

• 27:23Courtney Brown?

  "Hello? What's going on?"

• 27:25Colin Brown?

  "Basement, basement. Oh my God!"

• 27:27Courtney Brown?

  "Hello? Hello?"

• 27:29Colin Brown?

  "She killed the kids. Oh my God!"

• 27:32Courtney Brown?

  Tragically, next to five-year-old Cora was eight-month-old Callan, also face down with a blue exercise band around his neck. Patrick said he rushed over, turned them on their back, and immediately began untying the bands. He later described the knots as similar to, quote, "When you initially tie your shoes but don't do the bow," end quote. But after untying Cora and Callan, Patrick said he started looking for three-year-old Dawson. He said he checked the bathroom, then crossed to the other side of the basement and looked in the exercise room, but nothing. Then he entered his office, that was right beside the small exercise room, and that's where he found him. Dawson was just to the left of the door. Patrick said it was clear he was already dead.

• 28:16Courtney Brown?

  Like his siblings, Dawson also had been strangled with an exercise band, a yellow one, that was still tied around his neck. Patrick untied it. He said he then rushed back to Cora and began attempting CPR. Then he ran back towards where Dawson was in his office. It's around that time when Officer Hall and Josephine ran into the basement. After telling them she killed the fucking kids, Patrick told them, quote, "I can't wake them up."

• 28:41Speaker 06

  He came from a, uh, back room, so we, we ran into that back room. Uh, just past the door on the left side, there was a body of a young child. Uh, he had his feet towards the door and his head towards the wall.

• 28:53Colin Brown?

  The first child the officers saw was three-year-old Dawson. He was shirtless, wearing a diaper. Here's Officer Josephine explaining what happened next.

• 29:03Speaker 06

  He was laying on his back, um, kind of close to the gym bag. Um, like I said, he was laying on his back, his head was tilted to the right-hand side. Um, looked at him, kind of in the face area, once we got closer and, um, his face was white, gray. Lips were blue, eyes were bloodshot, um, looked like blood vessels were popped in his eyes. Seeing that, uh, my first instinct was to kind of grab his head and tilt it to the side, see if I can get a pulse, but, I mean, based on my training experience from previous incidents, um, I knew it wasn't going to be good. So I moved the head, that's where I observed some red marks on that right-hand side.

• 29:45Speaker 06

  Um, so I picked the child up, went chest to chest, and as I did that, um, it was kind of like a mucus or a foam that leaked out of his mouth onto me. I grabbed him, went back towards the way. We came down into the basement and I headed up to the stairs where Sergeant Homestead was coming down the stairs, and I started yelling to him to get out of the way.

• 30:09Courtney Brown?

  By the time Officer Josephine made it outside, the Clancy's neighborhood was filled with emergency vehicles. It was dark out. There are flashing lights illuminating everything nearby. Sirens echoed throughout the street. Neighbors had gathered, wanting to know what was going on. Officer Josephine quickly ran to an ambulance and handed Dawson to the EMTs. Now, keep in mind, the officers had only seen Dawson down in the basement. They had no idea there were two other children, but as they were standing outside, they suddenly remembered what Patrick told them. "She killed the kids. I can't wake them up." Plural, not singular. So from there, they ran back down to the basement.

• 30:53Speaker 06

  Um, there were two children on the floor, um, motionless, and, uh, EMTs were, paramedics were working on them.

• 31:02Courtney Brown?

  Those first responders worked tirelessly to help Cora and Callan, who were lying alongside each other. Cora had no pulse. She had already turned a bluish-purple color. Her eyes were bloodshot, and there was dried blood around her mouth. There was also a pool of blood on the carpet near her body that began to seep through Officer Josephine's pants. He was forced to move her body to another location and continue aid. It would later be revealed that the blood on the ground came from Cora's mouth. Now, as for Callan, the first responders were shocked to see that he still had a very faint pulse. So immediately, Cora and Callan were quickly rushed to an ambulance outside.

• 31:43Courtney Brown?

  While the children were being taken out, Officer Josephine found Patrick in the kitchen. He described him as, quote, "Frantic, kind of in shock, still screaming," end quote. It was at that moment that they decided to transfer him to Beth Israel Medical Center in Plymouth, where his three children were being taken.

• 32:03Colin Brown?

  Around the same time, Officer Hall walked out the back door of the Clancy home where paramedics were still working on Lindsay in the backyard. They were getting ready to bring her to the hospital, but she was a suspect in this crime, so Officer Hall would have to accompany her. As for Lindsay's condition, she was still in and out of consciousness. The wounds on her neck and wrists were bandaged, but as we mentioned, they were not actively bleeding, so they weren't too concerned about those injuries. Now, by looking at the scene with an open window above her, they figured she had jumped out trying to kill herself. She fell about thirteen feet, so they were worried about her neck and spine. It was later revealed that Lindsay actually had spinal fluid coming out of her nose.

• 32:44Colin Brown?

  So to prepare her for transport, she was placed in a cervical collar and secured onto a backboard. Then, from there, she was carried off to the ambulance. From the time first responders arrived to the time Lindsay was placed in the ambulance, only seven minutes had passed. Throughout that time, she didn't speak to anyone but continued to make painful groaning noises. She also kept trying to yank the oxygen mask off her face. But on the way to South Shore Hospital, paramedic and fireman Robert Costanzo said that he noticed Lindsay's pupils were constricted and she was unresponsive. Fearing an opioid overdose, Narcan was administered.

• 33:21Speaker 06

  We gave two milligrams of Narcan and she seemed to become a little bit more

• 33:28Speaker 06

  agitated, reaching, trying to grab, reaching out with her arms, but no, no verbal communication. She never like fully woke up.

• 33:39Courtney Brown?

  Lindsay and the children were taken to two different hospitals. Over at Beth Israel Medical Center, doctors got word that three children were on the way.

• 33:49Speaker 06

  Yeah, so we, we had heard that, you know, all three were in cardiac arrest and Cora in particular, they were still working on doing CPR and, and doing what we call pediatric advanced, advanced life support. So medications to try and restart the heart. And they also mentioned that they had used what we call a defibrillator to shock the heart to try to restart it. And they were still doing CPR when they were arriving.

• 34:16Courtney Brown?

  Cora also had an intravenous line put directly in the bone marrow of her tibia. In a critical emergency, especially with children who aren't breathing, finding a vein can sometimes be difficult. Inserting directly into the bone marrow gives them immediate access to the bloodstream. Doctors worked on Cora for an additional 30 minutes after she arrived at the hospital, but despite their best efforts, there was never a pulse and she never started breathing on her own. Five-year-old Cora Clancy was pronounced dead at 7:28 PM.

• 34:50Colin Brown?

  Doctors also desperately tried to save Dawson's life. Like Cora, he was given CPR, fluids through an intravenous line placed directly into the bone marrow of his tibia, and they gave doses of adrenaline to his heart. Every possible effort was made to save him, but three-year-old Dawson never started breathing again on his own and his heart never beat again. The doctors worked on him for 40 minutes before finally calling his time of death at 7:28 PM.

• 35:16Courtney Brown?

  And then there was eight-month-old Callan. Like his older brother and sister, Callan was also in cardiac arrest, but somehow he had a faint pulse. Because of the severity of his condition, he was airlifted to Boston Children's Hospital for specialized pediatric care. Upon arrival, doctors noted that Callan was cold to the touch and not moving. His pupils were dilated and there were obvious ligature marks and swelling around his neck. But for three whole days, baby Callan held on. During that time, he was intubated and on a ventilator. Although it was rare, at times he would take a breath on his own and he had a heartbeat, but Callan had extensive brain damage. The exercise band that was tied

• 35:59Courtney Brown?

  around his neck cut off the oxygen to his brain and a CT scan revealed significant swelling. He was moved to the ICU for additional care, but ultimately, he wouldn't make it. Dr. David Cassavan stated that Callan never responded to any physical tests that examined his reflexes and reactions. He remained unresponsive to quote, "both things that would cause discomfort and things that would cause pain," end quote, meaning Callan was brain dead. Fortunately, in those three days, he was alive. Family members were allowed to visit him in his last moments. Patrick Clancy later said, quote, "I was fortunate and grateful

• 36:39Courtney Brown?

  to feel his warmth until the very last moment. Faith is my only hope of believing he felt mine," end quote. Eight-month-old Callan Clancy was pronounced dead on January 27th, 2023.

• 36:55Colin Brown?

  But as you likely know, there was another survivor in this story. Lindsay Clancy was brought to the South Shore Hospital as Trauma 1, meaning it was the highest level of trauma and she was suffering from life-threatening injuries. Now, she was breathing on her own, but she was in and out of consciousness. Dr. Michael Volfovich testified that she arrived with a GCS of 10.

• 37:18Speaker 05

  It's a Glasgow coma scale. It's a series of things that we look at to determine how responsive somebody is, you know, whether their eyes are opening spontaneously, whether they're able to speak on their own, and whether you're able to understand what they're saying, and then how much, if at all, they're moving, whether they're moving spontaneously, whether they can follow commands, that kind of thing. Okay, so the Glasgow coma scale, GCS of 10, what does that tell you as an emergency room doctor? Tells us that she was not very responsive on arrival. It sounds like she was not speaking intelligibly and the doctors at South Shore Hospital were concerned about her ability to maintain her own airway and made the decision to intubate her, which means putting a breathing tube down her throat into her lungs and placing her on a ventilator and sedating her.

• 38:04Colin Brown?

  Lindsay's eyes were open, but she was not communicating. Doctors noted that the wounds to her neck and wrists were superficial, so there was no damage to the tendons or muscle. They also saw that on each of Lindsay's wrists, there were hesitation marks, which Dr. Elizabeth Lapisada, a forensic pathologist, testified was a classic finding in suicide attempts. There were also two full thickness lacerations to the sides of her neck, meaning she had cut herself through the skin and into the subcutaneous tissue. But because those weren't life-threatening, they focused on her more serious injuries. Scans revealed that Lindsay did not have a brain injury, but she did have a thoracic spine injury with a burst fracture of C1 and fractures of C4. She also had swelling in her chest and all of her

• 38:49Colin Brown?

  ribs had been broken. But something else that they noticed was that Lindsay's body temperature was 82.1 degrees, which meant that she was experiencing severe hypothermia. To warm her up, they placed her in this warming blanket called a bear hug. Now, it's around this time when Lindsay's parents, Paula and Mike, and her older sister Allison, heard about what happened. They rushed to South Shore to be by Lindsay's side, but they weren't allowed to see her. In fact, just four hours after she arrived, Lindsay had to be airlifted to Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston to receive specialized care.

• 39:24Courtney Brown?

  During the helicopter ride, a police officer was right there by her side. In fact, every room that Lindsay went into, as the doctors were crowded around trying to keep her alive, an officer was nearby because technically Lindsay was in their custody while the investigation into the deaths of her children was underway. But after arriving at Brigham and Women's and those early morning hours of January 25th, Lindsay coded after her blood pressure dropped. According to Dr. Lapisada, Lindsay's spinal injury and hypothermia caused her heart to stop beating, her pulse weakened, and she suffered a quote, "complete cardiac arrest," end quote. Doctors quickly stepped in, administering CPR. Dr.

• 40:06Courtney Brown?

  Volfovich explained that Lindsay received, quote, "two rounds of cardiopulmonary resuscitation with compressions and medication," end quote. And somehow, they were able to get a pulse. Now Nurse Rochelle Amade, who cared for Lindsay in the ICU, would later say that medical staff talked about the possibility of Lindsay having postpartum psychosis. In fact, on the night of the murders, Patrick Clancy was taken to Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital in Plymouth, where he spoke to Lieutenant John Santos and Trooper Joseph Rabbit about Lindsay's condition. He told them about her anxiety in September, her different appointments with medical providers, her various medications, and even her thoughts about harming the children

• 40:49Courtney Brown?

  in late December. Patrick then walked them through the evening of January 24th, the CVS, the 3V, what he found when he got home. During this interview, Patrick said that his marriage to Lindsay was wonderful and the two, quote, "got along great." Now by the following morning, the world woke up to the news of what happened. A mother, a labor and delivery nurse, accused of strangling her three young children with exercise bands, then slit her wrists and jumped out a window. The people of Duxbury were beside themselves. The Clancys were a respected family and the people who knew them had a hard time believing it was true. Lindsay loved her children. Everyone said that about her. Their hearts also broke for Patrick,

• 41:31Courtney Brown?

  who lost his entire family. Two days after the murders, while Lindsay was still in the hospital and while Callan was still alive, Patrick's friend Matthew Glazier started a GoFundMe for Patrick. He said the money would be used for medical bills, funeral services, and legal help. On January 28th, 2023, the day after Callan was taken off life support, Patrick Clancy made a comment on the GoFundMe. It read this.

• 41:58Colin Brown?

  "Thank you all for your love and support. The warmth I've received from the community is palpable and your generosity gives me hope that I can focus on some sort of healing. I've seen all of your messages and contributions, including some from people I haven't seen in over a decade and many I've never met. I see and appreciate every one of you. A lot of people have said they can't imagine and they're right. There's absolutely nothing that can prepare you. The shock and pain is excruciating and relentless. I'm constantly reminded of them and with the little sleep I get, I dream about them on repeat. Any parent knows it's impossible to understand how much you will love your kids until you have them. The same goes for understanding the devastation of losing them. Cora, Dawson,

• 42:39Colin Brown?

  and Callan were the essence of my life and I'm completely lost without them. My family was the best thing that ever happened to me. I took so much pride in being Lindsay's husband and a dad to Cora, Dawson, and Callan, I always reminded myself that each day with them was a new gift. Callan usually woke up first and would rest his head on my shoulder for a few minutes as he adjusted to morning. Dawson typically sang or spoke his thoughts out loud for a while before we'd go get him." Cora was a big girl and would simply walk downstairs. I can still vividly picture her coming into the living room each morning with her hair in a mess, smile on her face. We always started our days together, reading books, cuddling up on the couch and playing with magnet tiles.

• 43:20Colin Brown?

  I loved taking them places, whether it was scooting at Chandler Elementary, vacation, skiing, out on the boat, or to Ducksbury Beach, one of our favorite places on earth. They gave me purpose and I never took it for granted. There is now a massive void where that purpose once was. Cora had an infectious laugh and was stunningly beautiful. She was the cautious one, but it was really because she was so caring. She used to say she wanted to be a doctor and a mama when she grew up, and she would practice by giving Callan checkups. If she was leaving the house to go somewhere, she would pick someone to take care of Caroline and Charlotte, her baby dolls. She had all the doll accessories available, so her sitters were well-equipped.

• 44:00Colin Brown?

  Before she turned two, she was already wrapping them in perfect swaddles, who would tell her she's such a good little mama. She loved all babies, both real and pretend. She loved sloths, unicorns, tea parties, going to lunch with Nana and Grandpa, and giving presents to people. She knew everything about princesses, her favorite being Sofia the First. She truly loved her brothers and us and said it often in her sweet voice. We did a lot of father-daughter activities together, like skiing and visiting San Francisco or just talking. I loved her, my firstborn, so much. Dawson had beautiful, bold, brown eyes that beamed with friendship. Everyone said he had a raspy voice.

• 44:40Colin Brown?

  He was naturally humorous and generous beyond the norm of a typical toddler, always willing to share his toys with others. For all the love he received, he always gave back more. His best quality was his pure kindness. He loved trucks, tractors, dinosaurs, Paw Patrol, worker guys, and being outside. He was adventurous and mischievous and enjoyed causing trouble, which he typically found hilarious. He was also remarkably smart. We always said if we didn't save enough for retirement, it'll be okay, we'll just live in Dawson's guesthouse. He would hug me tighter than most adults and every night he told me in consistent words at bedtime, without fail, "Goodnight, Dada, I love you." We had a special bond from day one. He was my buddy, my first boy, and truly a gift.

• 45:25Colin Brown?

  Callan was our easygoing child. I always said it was because he was the third child, he had to adapt, and he did easily. He was born with hardly any fuss and was by far our best sleeper. He was just an incredibly happy and vibrant baby, constantly smiling. Our nickname for him was Happy Callan. He was sitting on his own, and you could tell he was enjoying his growing independence, as he would grab any object within reach. Sometimes he joined my Microsoft calls in the background, playing in his jumpy. I would keep my camera on, too proud to leave it off. He started saying "Dada" whenever I walked in the room. The last moment we had together was our routine. I would come up from my office at the end of the day and swing him between my legs while he laughed and smiled.

• 46:09Colin Brown?

  If I was ever having a bad day, Callan always knew how to heal me. Perhaps that's why he held on a little longer, to spare me whatever pain he could. As excruciating as it was, I was fortunate and grateful to feel his warmth until his very last moment. Faith is my only hope of believing he felt mine. Callan died with enormous courage despite being so little. Maybe it was his way of demonstrating what I need to do to press forward. I'll always try to draw inspiration from him. He'll always be my little hero. I want to share some thoughts about Lindsay. She has recently been portrayed largely by people who have never met her and never knew who the real Lindsay was. Our marriage was wonderful and diametrically grew stronger as her condition rapidly worsened.

• 46:52Colin Brown?

  I took as much pride in being her husband as I did being a father and felt persistently lucky to have her in my life. I still remember the very moment I first laid eyes on her and can recall how overcome I was with the kind of love at first sight you only see in movies. It really didn't take long before I was certain I wanted to marry her. We said "I love you" to each other multiple times daily, as if it were a reflex. We habitually started every morning with a passionate hug, yielding a sigh of relief like we had received the perfect medicine. If too much time passed without a hug, she'd look at me and ask, "Did you forget?" We mutually understood the reality that people can have bad days, but we stuck to the rule that when one of us got lost, the other was always there to help bring them home, always.

• 47:35Colin Brown?

  She loved being a nurse, but nothing matched her intense love for our kids and dedication to being a mother. It was all she ever wanted. Her passion taught me how to be a better father. I want to ask all of you that you find it deep within yourselves to forgive Lindsay, as I have. The real Lindsay was generously loving and caring towards everyone. Me, our kids, family, friends, and her patients. The very fibers of her soul are loving. All I wish for her now is that she can somehow find peace. I promise I'll put all my energy into healing and rediscovering my purpose. I owe that to all of you, Ducksbury Fire and Police, our compassionate healthcare workers, our local faith leaders, the Microsoft community, and especially Cora, Dawson, and Callan.

• 48:18Colin Brown?

  I don't know how or when I'll be able to do it, but your love and generosity will help me get started. I know that love always wins. Cora, Dawson, and Callan, you gave me so much in your short time here. I don't know if the pain will ever go away, but I'll do my best to carry on in your honor. Dada loves you so much and will always remember you. With love and endless gratitude.

• 48:41Courtney Brown?

  By this point, the news of the murders had spread all throughout the nation. Headlines read, "Heartbroken: Ducksbury gathers to pray after children killed." Other headlines read, quote, "Slain children's dad urges forgiveness," end quote. Neighbors of the Clancy's would speak to reporters, telling them that Lindsay and Patrick were an ideal family. They were always seen playing with their children in the yard. They seemed like a happy, devoted couple. Everyone was heartbroken for Patrick, a man that lost his entire family in one night. Soon enough, the donations started pouring in. Eventually, the GoFundMe reached over a million dollars. As for the Clancy home, the street was completely filled with news crews covering the story.

• 49:25Courtney Brown?

  In the days after the murders, crime scene investigators walked through, taking pictures and gathering evidence. From what they knew, Lindsay Clancy, the woman found in the backyard, had strangled her three children in the basement, using exercise bands, and then she tried to kill herself. But as they looked around, this didn't look like the home of someone who would murder her children. There were kids' art projects covering the walls all over the house. There were pictures and more art projects taped on the fridge. There was this huge banner that stretched across the room, with pictures of Callan from every month of his life, documenting just how big he had gotten. The Clancy's had a playroom filled with toys for the children. On the wall nearby, there was a big sign that read, "It's a Wonderful Life."

• 50:10Courtney Brown?

  Then in the backyard, there was a snowman that Lindsay and the children had built just hours before the murders. But amongst all of the innocents, the evidence of this crime was also sprinkled throughout the home. In the basement, investigators photographed the three exercise bands used to kill the children. They swabbed them for DNA and then put them in an evidence bag. Investigators moved from room to room, collecting journals, medication bottles, laptops, cellphones, parenting books, and books about postpartum depression and anxiety. Upstairs in the primary bedroom, they photographed all the blood. The bed that had been pulled away from the window, the blood on the window, the baby monitor and Google Nest camera.

• 50:54Courtney Brown?

  They photographed the nightstand, where they found a spray bottle that read, "Deep Sleep Pillow Spray." Also in the nightstand was a large butcher knife that sat covered in blood. And then, next to the knife, there was a coffee mug that read, quote, "Because kids." Now Patrick would tell investigators that inside of this cup was some lemonade and a white substance. So detectives theorized that before slitting her wrists and neck and jumping out the window, Lindsay had ingested some crushed up pills, trying to end her life by overdosing, which seems like a very important part of this story, something the police should have looked into. But surprisingly, they didn't.

• 51:36Courtney Brown?

  Investigators never tested the cup or the crushed pills inside of it. Why? We don't know.

• 51:42Colin Brown?

  In the days after the murders, Lindsay Clancy remained in a coma. But on January 26th, she finally started to wake up. She was not allowed to have visitors, but there were several professionals there who wanted to speak with her. However, Lindsay couldn't speak. One of the injuries she sustained was a crushed thyroid, which makes talking very difficult. She was also still intubated and loopy from the drugs she had been given, but she was able to write. One of the first people to speak with her was forensic psychiatrist Dr. Jelum Bizwas. She gave her a pen and paper, and then asked her, "How are you feeling?" Lindsay scribbled on the paper.

• 52:19Courtney Brown?

  Horrified.

• 52:20Colin Brown?

  Next, Dr. Bizwas asked, "Do you have any questions?"

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  Do I have an attorney?

• 52:26Colin Brown?

  Lindsay asked a number of other questions, too.

• 52:28Courtney Brown?

  Is my body broken? Are my legs straight? Can I have visitors? Where is my family?

• 52:34Colin Brown?

  Dr. Biswas only spoke with Lindsay this one time, with Lindsay communicating with pen and paper, but according to her, Lindsay showed no signs of psychosis. She also noted that Lindsay showed mental competence when she understood the severity of the injuries and agreed to have surgery on her spine. Lindsay's surgery was conducted the next day on January 27th. She had suffered a massive hemorrhage. There was extensive blood loss around the muscles that held up her spine due to the injury, and she had to receive a blood transfusion. But after surgery, once Lindsay was stabilized, they put her under suicide watch and constant surveillance by both medical staff and the two police officers that stood outside her hospital room door at all times. However, Lindsay was not out of the woods just yet.

• 53:19Colin Brown?

  In fact, she was still in critical condition at the ICU. She was intubated with breathing tubes, connected to different IVs, and she even had restraints around her wrists despite her wrist injuries. Lindsay was also permanently paralyzed from the sternum down, caused by the fall from the second-story window. She had what's called a Jefferson fracture of the C1 vertebra, which is the bone right at the top of your spine in your neck, and this injury caused permanent neurogenic bowel and bladder dysfunction.

• 53:47Courtney Brown?

  The day after Lindsay's surgery, on January 28th, one of her nurses, Rochelle Amade, communicated with her using a whiteboard. On it, Lindsay wrote that she was confused and couldn't feel her legs. Two days later, on January 30th, Lindsay was a bit more alert, but Nurse Amade noted that her demeanor was "flat" and she had "no emotion." Lindsay also had difficulty sleeping, so they gave her some medication for that. Now, on January 29th, Lindsay also spoke with her doctors about her healthcare proxy, which is essentially the person who can make medical decisions for you if you were unable to make those decisions for yourself. For Lindsay, that person was her husband, Patrick.

• 54:32Courtney Brown?

  But just five days after the murders, Lindsay requested that her proxy be changed to her parents. Why? We don't know. The only thing Lindsay has ever said about it is that her parents were always supportive of her. But that same day, on January 29th, psychiatrist Dr. Sagil Shaw conducted a mental health examination on Lindsay. She wanted to determine if Lindsay was competent enough to make a decision about changing her proxy. In fact, the previous night after Lindsay had surgery, she told a nurse that she was experiencing hallucinations and delirium. So concerned, Dr. Shaw wanted to speak to her. When she asked Lindsay if she was having any current delusions or hallucinations, Lindsay said she was not.

• 55:16Courtney Brown?

  There was also no suicidal, homicidal, or paranoid ideation, but Lindsay admitted that she was confused. Dr. Shaw listed her mood as "okay" and her thought process as "organized." Dr. Shaw determined that Lindsay's delirium and hallucinations might have been brought on by the anesthesia or a lack of oxygen after surgery. Ultimately, she listed Lindsay's judgment as "fair," and her behavior was noted as "calm and cooperative." But the following day, on January 30th, Dr. Shaw spoke with Lindsay a second time, and this time Lindsay reported that she was no longer confused. Once again, Dr. Shaw noted her mood as "okay" and her thinking as "organized." There were no signs of suicidal or homicidal ideation.

• 56:01Courtney Brown?

  Now, another person that was able to see Lindsay during this time was Chaplain Sheila Kavanaugh. She first saw Lindsay on January 25th, the day after the murders. Lindsay still hadn't woken up yet, but she wanted to pray for her. Then, days later, on January 31st, Chaplain Sheila Kavanaugh was able to see Lindsay again, and this time she was awake. Here is Sheila Kavanaugh describing this interaction with Lindsay.

• 56:26Colin Brown?

  And now for a brief ad break. Anyways, y'all, let's get back to the show.

• 56:52Courtney Brown?

  She continued to look like the photograph you just saw. She was covered tubes everywhere, the neck brace. Her emotional state was very neutral, a flat affect, but I remember vividly the first thing she said to me. Now, she had heard me for a couple of days. We had been praying together, and so when I went in on Tuesday, the 31st, she said to me, as I held her hand to comfort her, "I am so glad my children are safe." I replied theologically to Lindsay, and I said, "Lindsay, your children are safe.

• 57:37Courtney Brown?

  They're safe in heaven with God." And I held her hand throughout that conversation, and we prayed for them. According to Sheila, that very same day, Lindsay told her that she had heard a man's voice telling her to kill the children and then kill herself, and the voice was persistent. Lindsay said that if she "didn't follow the command," neither she nor her children would be safe. Sheila Kavanaugh said that she visited Lindsay 14 times during her stay at Brigham and Women's, and each time they met, Lindsay always brought up the voice she heard that day. Now, on February 1st, Dr. Shaw spoke with Lindsay for a third time.

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  She noted that Lindsay felt "down" about her paralysis and "the events leading up to her hospitalization." But she also noted that Lindsay was "future-oriented," and there were no signs of hallucinations or delusions.

• 58:34Colin Brown?

  But for anyone else who wanted to speak with Lindsay, they'd have a court order to get into the room. One of these people was clinical and forensic psychologist Dr. Paul Zizel. Now, Dr. Zizel earned his master's degree from Harvard and his doctorate from William James College. He had over 37 years of experience and testified in over 1,000 forensic cases. In Lindsay Clancy's case, Dr. Zizel had to get a court order to speak with her, and on the day in question, he also had to check in with the police officers outside her hospital room door. But on February 4th, 2023, 11 days after the incident, Dr. Zizel was able to evaluate and speak with Lindsay. When he walked into the hospital room, he was shocked to see that Lindsay was handcuffed to the bed.

• 59:18Colin Brown?

  Now, police officers and medical staff would later say that they were soft restraints, but Dr. Zizel said otherwise.

• 59:24Speaker 05

  They weren't soft. They were regular, but appeared to be metal handcuffs that police officers and perhaps officers in this court use for detaining people and arresting people. They were not soft.

• 59:38Courtney Brown?

  Lindsay was on pain medication when she first met with Dr. Zizel. During a mini mental health status examination, she told him that she didn't know where she was or what time it was. When it came to what happened, she said she remembered, but the details were fuzzy. Now, Lindsay was also given the HARE Psychopathy Checklist, which indicated she did not suffer from antisocial personality disorder, but she was severely depressed. Now, Dr. Zizel noted that Lindsay suffered from anxiety, racing thoughts, hypomania, insomnia, and auditory hallucinations. In his professional opinion, after their examination, he found that all of the different psychiatric

• 1:00:20Courtney Brown?

  drugs Lindsay had been taking triggered a "manic psychosis" that included strong command hallucinations, telling her what to do.

• 1:00:29Colin Brown?

  Lindsay would speak to a number of professionals while in the hospital who seemed to have different medical opinions on her state of mind, but she had a very long road ahead of her, and the investigation into her children's murder was still underway. But in the meantime, a memorial started to grow outside the Clancy home. On the mulch along the driveway, neighbors and Duxbury residents left flowers, stuffed animals, and balloons for Cora, Dawson, and Callan, a small memorial for their lives and a quiet token of love and remembrance. But the house on 47 Summer Street was no longer home. After the murders, Patrick Clancy never came back unless he was stopping by to grab clothing or deliveries. One day, he even found a rotting apple pie on the doorstep.

• 1:01:14Colin Brown?

  He would later say that Duxbury was swarming with media and reporters, and he didn't want the constant reminder of everything he had lost. So instead, he stayed with his parents for a while on Situate Harbor. On February 3rd, 2023, the funerals for Cora, Dawson, and Callan were held at St. Mary of the Nativity in Situate. It was the church Patrick's parents attended. He chose to hold the service there because it was away from all the reporters that were still lingering in Duxbury. But during the service, Reverend Bob Deehan read Patrick's eulogy as it was too difficult for him to read it aloud himself. Family members noted that Patrick appeared catatonic. It was clear he was still recovering from the loss.

• 1:01:57Courtney Brown?

  Three days after the funeral, on February 6th, Patrick and his attorney stopped by the district attorney's office to give them some additional evidence. Patrick had a bag filled with nine of Lindsay's prescription medications. Now, when asked why he had them, Patrick said that before the murders, Lindsay's medications were constantly being adjusted, and for the pills she was no longer taking, Patrick said he had been instructed to take them to the police station to properly dispose of them, since you're not supposed to just throw them in the trash. But Patrick never did that. Instead, Lindsay's pills sat in a big baggie that he kept in the center console of his truck.

• 1:02:38Colin Brown?

  Now, at this point, Lindsay was still in the hospital, and although Patrick forgave her, he didn't reach out to her. However, on February 4th, he received a phone call from a number he didn't recognize. At the time, he said that he was at the shore to clear his mind, so he let the call go to voicemail. When he later listened, he heard Lindsay's voice. As it turns out, she had used Dr. Paul Zizel's cellphone to call Patrick. She apparently wanted to tell him that she loved him.

• 1:03:08Courtney Brown?

  Before this phone call, Lindsay told Dr. Zizel that she hadn't heard from Patrick. She wanted to know how he was doing, and she was concerned about where things stood with them. Dr. Zizel later testified that, quote, "out of human compassion, he allowed her to call her husband." But Patrick didn't answer. So two days later, Dr. Zizel let Lindsay use his phone again. And this time, when she called Patrick, he did answer. Patrick would later say that during this phone call with Lindsay, she confessed to murdering his children after hearing that voice. Patrick hung up the call after only one minute. He said the woman on the other end of the line didn't sound like his wife. Patrick stated he felt lost and that he had, quote, "nothing left."

• 1:03:53Courtney Brown?

  But during this phone call, Dr. Zizel was in the room. The call was actually on speaker, so he heard everything.

• 1:04:01Speaker 05

  She told Patrick that she loved him very much. She was unable to express a lot of emotion, but she expressed love for him. And she had said that she heard a male voice ordering her, telling her that she didn't have any choice,

• 1:04:30Speaker 05

  but she had to kill her children and then kill herself.

• 1:04:39Colin Brown?

  Two days after this, Dr. Zizel spoke to the media about Lindsay. He said, "What I can say without going too far is that her affect is absolutely flattened. She's in a very surreal state, feels dreamlike to her, as she's described to me on multiple occasions." And in a

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• 1:08:19Colin Brown?

  They have the capacity, or on occasion, to be able to do things that they've been doing for a long period of time. When you have delusional thinking, fixed beliefs that are unchangeable, and hallucinations telling you to do things, telling you to do things that are malevolent, and you believe those voices that are telling you you need to do what they say, that's when things go downhill behaviorally, psychiatrically, and unfamiliarly. And that's what we see in the most tragic of cases, where individuals who could be healthy and normal, and quite frankly, they're paranoid, worried about what others think, they hold back on what they care and in some cases throughout the country and the world. These people who one day will be functioning well, but because they have the onset of hallucinations, which they adhere to, and they believe the voice that they have to do something,

• 1:09:02Colin Brown?

  that's when tragedy occurs, and I think that sort of is under the overall rubric that this case falls under.

• 1:09:09Courtney Brown?

  Lindsay remained at Brigham and Women's Hospital for several weeks, but she was eventually transferred out of the trauma surgical ICU. Staff noted that she appeared calm and cooperative. She ultimately received three stitches to her right wrist and one stitch to her left wrist. The wound on her neck was superficial, so it required no stitches. But Lindsay Clancy would never walk again. After two weeks of recovery at the hospital, Lindsay's family was finally allowed to see her. Her sister Allison testified that they visited her as often as they could. Lindsay's parents refused to speak to the media. However, while all of this was unfolding, they started living out of a hotel near the hospital.

• 1:09:51Courtney Brown?

  Now, it's around this time when the toxicology reports came back. They showed that nothing was found in Cora, Dawson, or Callan's systems. It was determined, however, that Lindsay had several medications in her system. They found a sub-therapeutic level of the benzodiazepines Ativan and Valium, which are central nervous system depressants. Lindsay was known to take these over the past few months. Ativan was actually the only medication that brought her any relief. But also in her system was an elevated level of Seracel, the antipsychotic medication. Now, Lindsay had already weaned off this medication weeks earlier. Out of all of the medications she was prescribed, Seracel was the hardest on her.

• 1:10:33Courtney Brown?

  In fact, shortly after taking it is when she said she started having suicidal ideations and thoughts of harming her children. So she got off of it. But according to her toxicology report, an elevated level of Seracel was in her system. However, it was not a toxic level nor a lethal dose. Now, another drug found in Lindsay's system was Lamictal, another mood stabilizer. She had actually never taken this drug before, but there was a therapeutic level of it in her system. There was also evidence of the antidepressant Remeron and Trazodone for sleep, but they too were at normal therapeutic levels. Her toxicology report showed there was no alcohol, opiates, or other illegal drugs in her system.

• 1:11:16Courtney Brown?

  Even though there were not lethal amounts of these drugs, investigators theorized that this was actually her initial suicide attempt before she decided to slit her wrists and throat and jump out the window. However, they never tested that cup by her nightstand, the one where Patrick said there was a white substance inside. And because they never tested it, it's hard to say. Something else I want to note is that they also never found where Lindsay would have crushed these pills. Usually, there would be pill residue on a counter or even residue on the thing she used to crush the pills. But that wasn't part of the evidence police gathered. And to this day, the crushed pills are a big question mark in the investigation.

• 1:11:59Colin Brown?

  On February 7, 2023, Lindsay Clancy was formally arraigned, appearing by a Zoom video call from her hospital bed at Brigham and Women's. She was ultimately charged with three counts of murder. Additionally, she was charged with three counts of strangulation and suffocation and three counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, the exercise bands. A not guilty plea was entered on her behalf.

• 1:12:22Courtney Brown?

  Now, Lindsay's parents, Paula and Michael Musgrove, knew firsthand just how much their daughter had been struggling before the murders. Lindsay often confided in her mom about what she was going through. Paula saw Lindsay's desperate attempts to get better, and her parents wanted to fight for her. Part of that fight was finding a good attorney that could represent Lindsay. Ultimately, Lindsay's parents depleted their life savings and their retirement to hire a renowned defense attorney named Kevin Reddington. Reddington looked at Lindsay's case, and he didn't see a cold-blooded killer. He saw a woman in crisis, a woman who had been seeing a number of doctors concerning her mental health, someone who tried out medication after medication with no relief.

• 1:13:05Courtney Brown?

  He saw the ER visits, the partial hospitalization program, the calls to suicide hotlines, the McLean psychiatric hospital stay, all the signs that pointed to a woman who was desperate for help, help that never came. Reddington believed that in addition to being severely over-medicated, Lindsay killed her children during a possible episode of postpartum psychosis.

• 1:13:29Colin Brown?

  But not everyone saw it that way. Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sproug argued that the killings were planned and deliberate, that insanity was not a factor when Lindsay killed her children because she acted with clear intent, knew right from wrong, and understood exactly what she was doing.

• 1:13:45Speaker 07

  She used Apple Maps on her phone to determine how long it would take someone to drive from her home in Duxbury to 3V Restaurant in Plymouth. So she would know how long someone would be gone if they ran that errand. She next went on the CVS website at four forty seven PM and then called CVS on Summer Street in Kingston. She spoke to the manager of CVS and asked if they had the kids' Miralax. The manager told her no, but they had other similar medications. According to the manager of CVS, her voice did not sound slurred or impaired in any way. She had no trouble understanding the defendant and it was a perfectly normal conversation. The defendant did not take advantage of the situation when her husband left the home that night.

• 1:14:29Speaker 07

  She created the situation. And she used Apple Maps to make sure she would have enough time to strangle each child before her husband returned from where she had sent him. The defendant is a danger to herself and others. She planned these murders, gave herself the time and privacy needed to commit the murders. And then she strangled each child in the place where they should have felt the safest, at home with their mom. She did so with deliberate premeditation and extreme atrocity and cruelty. This was not a woman in the throes of psychosis on January twenty fourth, twenty twenty three.

• 1:15:06Colin Brown?

  This was a woman who acted intentionally, rationally, and swiftly to accomplish a very specific goal. Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprogg asked that Lindsay be held without bail and transferred into traditional custody. But Lindsay's attorney, Kevin Reddington, pushed back.

• 1:15:26Speaker 05

  I question whether she would ever make it to a trial. She's suicidal. She's extremely emotional. However, she's unable and has been unable to express any happiness or sadness or cry. And in fact, sometime about a month or two ago, she made the comment, I just wish that I could feel something. Now, our society fails miserably in treating women with postpartum depression or even postpartum psychosis. It's medicate, medicate, medicate.

• 1:16:09Speaker 05

  Throw the pills at you and then see how it works. If it doesn't work, increase the dose or decrease the dose. Then end up trying another combination of medications. We're talking a relatively short period of time from when that baby was born in October up until January when the incident occurred. That she was on such significant dosage of medication. Her mood was terrible after she got out of McLean Hospital. She still had the suicidal thoughts. As the government has indicated, she even told her husband that she had suicidal thoughts. You think this is something that she's planning to kill these three kids? By going and getting a menu? Going on to Google Maps or whatever it is and finding out the distance? When she tells her husband she's having suicidal thoughts? Probably a month prior?

• 1:16:54Speaker 05

  Thoughts of creating a children? They go to the doctor again and she's on the medications, on and off, on and on. This is a significant issue between the postpartum depression as well as possibility of postpartum psychosis that is pretty much ignored.

• 1:17:13Colin Brown?

  And while Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprogg asked that Lindsay be transferred to jail, Attorney Kevin Reddington argued that she remained hospitalized until she could be transferred to a rehab facility. Given her catastrophic injuries, including paraplegia from the spinal cord damage, he argued that she needed medical and mental health care and that it would be inhumane to transfer her to jail. Ultimately, Judge John Canavan agreed with Lindsay's attorney and allowed her to remain in the hospital as she awaited trial.

• 1:17:42Courtney Brown?

  Towards the end of March, twenty twenty three, Lindsay was transferred to Spalding Rehabilitation Hospital. After suffering a severe spinal cord injury that left her paralyzed, she received specialized treatment aimed at helping her adapt to life with paralysis. While there, she tried to regain as much independence as possible with her upper body. But soon after she arrived, one of her good childhood friends, Amy Bevins, came to visit her. The two had been friends for nearly twenty nine years. Here is Amy describing that visit.

• 1:18:14Speaker 07

  We made small talk. We played Uno. It was

• 1:18:22Speaker 07

  a pretty basic visit. I remember her asking about my daughter. I remember her asking about any updates to life events for our friends. We talked about some hobbies that she was doing while at Spalding and then played a game.

• 1:18:44Courtney Brown?

  Before the visit, Lindsay's older sister Allison had specifically instructed Amy not to bring anything up, the children or the incident. So they never spoke about it. Lindsay didn't talk about why she was in a wheelchair.

• 1:18:57Speaker 05

  That was a bit of an awkward, uncomfortable topic, wasn't it?

• 1:19:02Speaker 07

  I think it would be for anybody, yes.

• 1:19:04Speaker 05

  Absolutely. And the district attorney asked you whether or not she cried and whether or not she told you about her children and anything to do with her children or that incident. You both basically stayed away from that entire subject, right?

• 1:19:20Speaker 07

  I remember also being told not to bring that up specifically, which at the time I would like I figured that that could be due to the recommendation of mental health providers, et cetera, who were treating her.

• 1:19:33Speaker 05

  Right. And who told you that?

• 1:19:35Speaker 07

  Her sister.

• 1:19:36Colin Brown?

  On May first, two thousand twenty three, Lindsay was transferred to Tewksbury State Hospital. And while there, a priest began visiting her regularly. Although Lindsay and Patrick had never been particularly religious, it seemed to offer her some comfort. The priest was actually the same priest who had baptized Callan in Duxbury. But at least once a week, he would drive to the hospital just to pray with her. He gave her some rosary beads, but the staff took them away, saying they were a suicide risk. So the next time he saw her, he brought her a rosary that was shorter, something she couldn't slip around her neck. Dr. Karen Towers, a forensic psychologist, told the Boston Globe that Lindsay was unbearably depressed and had been suffering from intrusive thoughts and flashbacks.

• 1:20:21Courtney Brown?

  August eleventh, twenty twenty three, was Lindsay Clancy's thirty-third birthday. But this year, there would be no celebration. Lindsay spent her birthday at the state hospital, where staff watched her around the clock. There were no gifts, no cake, no happy feelings at all. According to The New Yorker, Lindsay struggled every day with thoughts of suicide, even on her birthday. So that day, Lindsay's father, Mike Musgrove, reached out to Patrick and asked if he would call her. Mike said that Lindsay was, quote, "in rough shape and going downhill," end quote. Ultimately, Patrick took the advice of his father-in-law and called her. He hadn't spoken to her much since the murders, only a one-minute conversation back in February. When he called on August eleventh,

• 1:21:06Courtney Brown?

  Lindsay was with a therapist, but what she told Patrick on the phone broke his heart. Lindsay said that every single day felt like the worst day of her life. She said she missed Cora, Dawson, and Callan terribly. And shortly after that, their phone call came to an end. At this point, Patrick Clancy's life looked much different after the loss of his family. According to The New Yorker, in the weeks after the funerals, Patrick actually traveled to Central America and Europe for a while. He said he stayed in hostels because going to hotels and seeing families was too hard on him. Now, it's unclear exactly what he was doing during his travels, but it's believed he spent some time hiking the Mannequin Waterfalls Nature Reserve in Costa Rica.

• 1:21:51Courtney Brown?

  But after coming back to America, Patrick returned to Duxbury, where he gathered Cora, Dawson, and Callan stuffed animals and their unspent arcade tokens, giving them away to friends. Then about four months after the murders, Patrick left his parents' house and moved to Manhattan, New York for a fresh start. Patrick told The New Yorker that his new apartment was right next door to a busy preschool. He said he couldn't stop himself from watching the parents on rushed morning drop-offs, knowing that that was once his life. Now, in the months after the murders, everyone was still feeling the pain of what was lost. Patrick's mom, Sue, would later speak to The New Yorker about Lindsay. She said, quote, "I don't hate her. I don't call her names.

• 1:22:34Courtney Brown?

  I have empathy, but Lindsay hurt a lot of people. She hurt her parents, she hurt us, and all our kids, our cousins, our community. Lindsay has to pay for what she did. Fortunately, it's not up to any of us to define what that payment is," end quote.

• 1:22:51Colin Brown?

  On September fifteenth, two thousand twenty three, Lindsay Clancy was formally indicted by a Plymouth County grand jury on three counts of murder and strangulation in the deaths of her children, moving her case to the Massachusetts Superior Court. By this point, she had already been evaluated by several experts who believed Lindsay was in a psychotic episode when she murdered her children. The prosecution would later hire their own experts who disagreed. And we'll get into all those findings in the next episode. But as two thousand twenty three turned to two thousand twenty four, the heaviness of the crime could still be felt in the city of Duxbury. To raise money, businesses in town started selling tassel bracelets and cashmere crewnecks, each marked with three commemorative scallop shells for Cora, Dawson, and Callan.

• 1:23:36Colin Brown?

  They wanted to keep their memory alive. As for the Clancy home at forty-seven Summer Street, it sat empty throughout that first year. But in January of two thousand twenty four, the Clancy house finally sold in an off-market deal for six hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars. Interestingly, the buyer was a man named Michael Fippen, who was the former Assistant District Attorney in Plymouth County. But the same month that the house sold, it was the anniversary of the murders, January twenty fourth, two thousand twenty four. And by then, Patrick had started a new life in New York City. But he returned to Duxbury to attend a memorial service for Cora, Dawson, and Callan. Here he is speaking at that ceremony.

• 1:24:19Colin Brown?

  It's very fitting that we're here together at Holy Family, which I always considered part of our neighborhood. I have memories of coming

• 1:24:28Speaker 07

  This church over the years, sometimes we'd come as a family. And then on days when Lindsay was working, there were times where I would build up enough energy to bring the kids myself. And we'd always sit by the north entrance over here. I remember one time feeding Dawson a bottle as he sat in the car seat and holding Cora in my other arm. And I think I ran out of energy pretty early that day. The last time we were here was Christmas 2022. Dawson gazed at the cross above the altar and he asked his usual question. He said, is that God? And I said, yeah, buddy, that's him.

• 1:25:11Speaker 07

  Dawson was baptized at this church and Callan was baptized here by Father Bob himself. It's been a full year. My hope is that today we can begin a new chapter in continuing to remember Cora, Dawson, and Callan, but also inspire the world to carry on their legacy of kindness. I've said before that I've tried to be more like them. Everything I've done this year, I've tried to think of what Dawson would want me to do, what would make Cora proud, and what might make Callan smile. So, starting just recently, we're encouraging everyone to take part in a special initiative,

• 1:25:50Speaker 07

  which I'll explain first by sharing a quick story about Cora. Back in 2021, it was the height of the pandemic and we were spending a lot of time at home. And I started to notice our house seemed to be shrinking. And some of it had to do with Cora's toys. So just to understand the amount of toys we're talking about, it's important to know that Cora was our first born. She was my in-law's first granddaughter, and her birthday was on Christmas Eve. She had a lot of toys. But some of them weren't even getting used, so we sat her down and we said, Cora, you have a lot of toys, right?

• 1:26:32Speaker 07

  And in a signature response for Cora, she said, I do. And I said, so you know, you're pretty lucky. A lot of girls don't have many toys and some girls don't have any toys at all. So I said, what do you think about taking some of the toys that you have and donating them? And she gave it some thought. Sure enough, she grabbed a collection of old toys and gladly put them in a box to be donated. A small charitable act, but nonetheless, one of those proud parent moments. If Cora did something similar today, she would do it with love from Duxbury, which is a really beautiful initiative started recently by some members of the community.

• 1:27:15Speaker 07

  With Love from Duxbury is a collective mission to spread kindness throughout the community and beyond, and it doesn't have to cost you anything. You could take an elderly neighbor out for a walk, cook a fresh meal for the new parents in town, invite one of the other dads out for a beer with the guys, or simply tell someone how much you care about them. If you'd like, you can talk about it on social media and use the hashtag withlovefromduxbury. If you're the praying type, you can pray for each other. You could pray for moms who are struggling with postpartum, the kids' teachers, or Duxbury's first responders. It's okay to not be okay sometimes.

• 1:28:00Speaker 07

  There comes a time for all of us when we can use some support. So far, we've seen an enormous outpouring of kindness. Cora and Dawson's friends have shared their artwork to be displayed around town. Local businesses have stepped up. The media has caught attention of it. Many people decided they would check in with their mom friends just to make sure they're okay. People in town were invited to spend an hour with Maui, the therapy dog. Someone bought groceries for their neighbor. A local cookie artist and nurse donated 90 seashell cookies for kids to decorate. And just this morning, a kind stranger bought the next 50 people in line a coffee at Starbucks.

• 1:28:44Speaker 07

  And they said, this is with love from Duxbury. This mission can go far beyond Duxbury. It's not for anyone from anywhere. It doesn't matter where you're from, as long as you're spreading kindness, you're doing it right. And as long as we keep it going, I think we can change the world. How much, I don't know, but I can say it will be for the better. There are so many people who have offered care and compassion to me and my family, but I've also seen so many people come together in a positive way. Taking part in this mission will be a widespread honor to Cora, Dawson, and Callan, embodying

• 1:29:25Speaker 07

  the way they lived and the things about them that brought so many people closer to them. It also honors this incredible town. I'll close with a quick prayer that Cora used to say before going to bed. She made it up herself, and it's short and sweet. Dear God, thank you for a beautiful day in the neighborhood. It's good to see you all, my old neighborhood.

• 1:29:47Courtney Brown?

  Following the service, as everyone piled out of the church, media crews swarmed the crowd. Reporters tapped on the windows of Lindsay's closest friends and family, hoping to hear what they had to say on the matter, but they were tight lipped. Now, a few months later, on April 15, 2024, Patrick Clancy ran the Boston Marathon in memory of Cora, Dawson, and Callan. He proudly sported their names on his running bib. He also penned one of Cora's bows to his bib, or her bracelet. And he had on an armband from both Dawson and Callan. Patrick ran the marathon to raise money for Boston Children's Hospital with the Miles for Miracles team. Ultimately, he raised more than $72,000. It was huge news.

• 1:30:30Courtney Brown?

  The New York Post later published an article titled, quote, "Grieving Dad Finishes Boston Marathon in Honor of Three Children Strangled by Mom." But here is a clip of Patrick speaking to reporters on the day of the marathon.

• 1:30:46Speaker 05

  All the people cheering, 95% of the people who called my name, I don't even know who they were, and I don't have my name on my bib, so I don't know how they knew me, but it was just really moving. I love my kids, they're wonderful people. They had a lot of friends, everybody loved them. And they had short lives, but they had really good lives.

• 1:31:11Courtney Brown?

  When this clip was released, everyone noticed that Patrick wasn't wearing his wedding band. There were whispers that he was divorcing Lindsay, but he never commented on the matter. However, his mother, Sue, would later tell The New Yorker, quote, "He has come to terms with the fact that she is no longer a part of anything. She's gonna go her way, and he's gonna go his," end quote. Now, at the time of the murders, Patrick was working for Microsoft, but after the tragedy, they gave him an 18-month leave. During that time, Patrick solo traveled. He moved to New York City. He joined a sailing club, and he even volunteered as a guide for visually impaired runners. It appeared as if he was trying to find meaning in his life after losing his family.

• 1:31:53Courtney Brown?

  But he did voice concern about how people would react to this. Patrick told The New Yorker this.

• 1:32:02Colin Brown?

  I have this worry that people will see me socializing and be like, shouldn't he be sad because his whole family was just killed? I'm still hurting, but I can smile and even laugh sometimes. And it's true for Lindsay, too, because humans are resilient. She's worried people just won't understand if she's a somewhat normal person.

• 1:32:20Courtney Brown?

  Patrick and his sisters also co-founded the Herd Foundation in memory of Cora, Dawson, and Callan. The foundation aimed to help parents dealing with perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, reduce stigma, and expand access to support to people in need.

• 1:32:36Colin Brown?

  But following this, things were pretty quiet in regard to Lindsay Clancy. While her attorneys and the Commonwealth geared up for a trial, Lindsay continued treatment at Tewksbury State Hospital, learning to function without the use of her legs and staying on suicide watch the entire time. But soon enough, 2024 turned to 2025. In June of 2025, the Herd Foundation helped open the Clancy Family Playground at Wadsworth Field Park in Duxbury, Massachusetts. There's a plaque at the front of the playground with a picture of Cora, Dawson, and Callan. It reads, "Celebrating the lives of Cora, Dawson, and Callan, may this playground provide a symbol of hope and remembrance as we rebuild communities, a gift to our youth as an effort

• 1:33:21Colin Brown?

  to enhance and sustain their precious childhood." In another part of the playground, there are three handprints. The sign reads, "In loving memory of Callan, Cora, and Dawson." Throughout the playground, there are other reminders of them, too. One picture shows three angels and a quote that reads, "Precious beams of light, here with me wherever you are tonight." And then finally, one part of the playground reads, "Welcome to Callan's Play Corner." On June 7, 2025, Patrick Clancy came to the park to do a ribbon cutting celebrating its opening.

• 1:33:56Courtney Brown?

  Before everyone knew it, it was 2026. And everyone who had been following this case still had a lot of questions as to what happened. Now Lindsey's trial was right around the corner, so we hoped to get some of those answers at trial. But in January of 2026, three years after the murders of Cora, Dawson, and Callan, Lindsay Clancy filed a lawsuit against all of her providers, including Dr. Jennifer Tufts, Dr. Goodheart, Dr. Diaz, Nurse Practitioner Rebecca Gelata, the Astor Mental Health Clinic, South Shore Health System, McLean Hospital, and Women and Infants Hospital in Rhode Island. The lawsuit discussed her mental deterioration after Callan's birth, how she sought out

• 1:34:40Courtney Brown?

  help time and time again. It read, quote, "Lindsay Clancy did everything a mother in her situation could do. She recognized something was wrong with her. She sought medical treatment. She went to emergency rooms. She called crisis hotlines. She admitted herself to hospitals. She took the medication prescribed to her. She communicated her worsening symptoms to her providers. She told them the medications were making her worse. Her husband advocated for her. Her family drove from out of state to help care for her children. And still, the medical system failed her completely." End quote. The lawsuit went on to say that Lindsey's providers, quote, "failed to properly diagnose Lindsey's bipolar disorder with postpartum onset, and instead subjected her to a disorganized,

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  uncoordinated course of polypharmacy that exacerbated her conditions." End quote. The lawsuit said that due to her lack of care, Lindsey experienced a, quote, "severe psychotic break." On the day of the murders, the lawsuit said that Lindsey developed command auditory hallucinations, described as a persistent male voice that told her to harm herself and her children. It said that she entered a, quote, "dreamlike state and had no control over her actions. She strangled each one of her children, one by one, and told them, quote, 'Go to God, baby.'" The lawsuit claims that had Lindsey got the care that she needed, the tragedy could have been prevented.

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  It read, quote, "As a direct and proximate result of the negligence, recklessness, and gross negligence of the defendants, Lindsey has suffered and will continue to suffer the loss of the complete and permanent loss of the companionship consortium services society comfort guidance council and advice of her children, Cora, Dawson, and Callan."

• 1:36:29Colin Brown?

  Now, Patrick Clancy also filed a lawsuit in January of 2026. It was a medical malpractice and wrongful death lawsuit against Dr. Jennifer Tufts, Astor Mental Health, Nurse Practitioner Rebecca Gelata, South Shore Hospital, Astor Mental Health Incorporated, and South Shore Health System Incorporated. He sued as an individual and as a representative of the estates of his three children, Cora, Dawson, and Callan. The lawsuit stated that Lindsey was struggling after the birth of their third child, and she was mis-prescribed powerful medications, that they failed to monitor her properly, and missed how badly she was deteriorating. Patrick's complaint was that the negligent care made her condition worse.

• 1:37:10Colin Brown?

  It read, "If defendants had not acted negligently and rather had provided adequate care, it is more likely than not that Patrick and Lindsey's children would still be alive today." Ultimately, Patrick is suing for damages as a result of their death, including without limitation, services, protection, care, assistance, society, companionship, comfort, guidance, counsel, advice, and consortium. Patrick has also incurred funeral and burial expenses and other damages as a result of Cora, Dawson, and Callan's deaths.

• 1:37:42Courtney Brown?

  By this point, the Clancy family had tried their best to move forward. Patrick's parents' home is still filled with framed photographs of the children, a constant reminder of everything that was lost. His mom Sue, who worked at South Shore Hospital, was unable to go back to work. It was too hard for her to see young families with their babies. As for Patrick's dad Chris, who once owned and operated a successful plumbing business, he stated that business slowed down, and he eventually retired. And then there was Patrick. By 2026, he had moved on. As we mentioned earlier, he had moved to Manhattan, hours away from where his life once was. Now Duxbury has a very small-town feel.

• 1:38:24Courtney Brown?

  Me and Colin actually visited this past week, and we were surprised by how small it felt. Most of the homes are surrounded by trees. It's very secluded, much different than the bustling New York City. But it was in New York City where Patrick Clancy started dating a woman named Dr. Rachel Danus. She is a reproductive endocrinologist, an infertility specialist in New York. Now it's unclear when they started dating, but in April of 2026, about three years after the murders, Patrick and Rachel got married in a private intimate ceremony at the Ladies Pavilion in Central Park. Following the ceremony, they had a small celebration with friends and family at Sarah Beth's Restaurant. Patrick and Rachel now live together in a midtown Manhattan high-rise.

• 1:39:09Courtney Brown?

  For many people who knew the Clancys, they were happy that Patrick found love again, but Lindsay Clancy's life looked much different. To give you an idea of what her life looked like at this time, we want to talk about Dr. Paul Zizel's time with her. He was the doctor who spent the most time with Lindsey. He had worked with her for a total of 41 months. For her evaluation alone, he spoke with her for 37 hours. Now Dr. Zizel said that his goal with Lindsey was to transfer her to a recovery center and get her off all medications. That same month, he noted she was, quote, "stable, but still relying on medications for her mental health." But ultimately, her transfer to the recovery center was denied due to her having pending

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  criminal charges. So instead, Lindsey stayed at Tewksbury State Hospital, living every day in what she described was the worst day of her life. Dr. Zizel said, quote, "She has bad days and worse days." End quote. Over the years, Lindsey had to learn to live in a wheelchair. She interacted with staff and other patients at the hospital. Staff noted she was, quote, "pleasant upon approach and social with select peers." End quote. It was mentioned that she was well-liked by nearly every person in her unit. Before trial, Lindsey passed the time by playing dominoes. She spent some time in the TV room, and her family visited her almost every day for three years.

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  Her parents actually relocated to Massachusetts and were living out of hotel rooms just to be close to her. It was later revealed that they had not missed a single lunch or dinner date with her. It was also reported that Lindsey took her medications every day without issue. She attended therapy sessions. But even so, it's been very difficult for her to make it through the days, knowing that her children are no longer here. Here is what Dr. Zizel said about that.

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  She really loves them and misses them and thinks of them every single day, almost every moment of the day.

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  Before trial, Lindsey remained on a constant one-to-one monitoring to ensure she didn't take her own life. Chaplain Sheila Kavanaugh also continued to speak with Lindsey, estimating she had met with her over 200 times. Here's what Sheila had to say about their interactions.

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  When Lindsey was admitted to Tewksbury State Hospital, I continued to see her on a weekly basis. We had built up a very comfortable, respectful rapport, and I felt it was in her best interest to continue that as she healed. She was still in deep grief, she was suffering. Lindsey talks frequently about her children. She loves them deeply. She carries immense grief.

• 1:41:59Courtney Brown?

  As Lindsay Clancy's trial approached, the media was reporting on the mother, a labor and delivery nurse who murdered her three young children. But many of the people who knew her before the murders said that Lindsey loved her children more than anything in this world. And there were actually a lot of people who rallied behind Lindsey. To them, this was a woman who desperately needed help, someone who tried to get that help time and time again. Many of the nurses that Lindsey used to work with even posted to their social medias, sharing a hotline for struggling mothers. Many changed their Facebook profile pictures to an illustration of hearts with the letters "L-A-O-L," which stood for Lindsey's Army of Love.

• 1:42:41Courtney Brown?

  And lastly, attorney Kevin Reddington filed dozens and dozens of character letters in court. They were from women who knew Lindsey, women vowing to stand by her, quote, "in her darkest hour, as we wish any other mother would do for us." End quote. The letters emphasized that Lindsey was a devoted wife, mother, and nurse. Some stated that what happened was completely out of character and must have been the result of a severe mental illness, specifically mentioning postpartum psychosis. But here are a few of those letters.

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  To whom it may concern, we are writing this letter to speak to what a wonderful person Lindsay Clancy is. We have known Lindsey for many years. We know her to be a kind, gentle, and loving person, as well as a valuable colleague. Lindsey always went above and beyond when caring for new families in both her care and commitment.

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  To whom it may concern, Lindsay Clancy has been a colleague and friend for many years. She is a compassionate, supportive, and excellent nurse. There wasn't anything she loved more than her children, Cora, Dawson, Callan, and her husband Patrick. I am proud to stand beside her.

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  To whom it may concern, my friendship with Lindsey began when we met in sixth grade. We connected quickly in those early days as we started middle school together. Since then, over 20 years later, I can honestly say Lindsey is the type of friend that I am not just lucky to have found as a child. She has consistently been the kind of person anyone would be fortunate to meet in a lifetime.

• 1:44:09Courtney Brown?

  To whom it may concern, I would like to share the person I know Lindsey to be. I can remember a time prior to Lindsey and Pat getting married, that Lindsey would say she wanted to have a baseball team of children. She would attend baby showers or weddings, and always asked to hold any of the babies in attendance. Her work family knew that she was pregnant almost as soon as she did. She wasted no time to share her excitement to expand her family. Many nights Lindsey would be sitting at the desk, charting on her patients, and rubbing her growing belly with any of her pregnancies. She asked her nursing coworkers for advice on the best baby items or favorite toy ideas for birthdays or holidays.

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  Lindsey is soft-spoken, gentle, kind, compassionate, and always with a listening ear. At work, Lindsey talked lovingly of her children.

• 1:45:00Colin Brown?

  I cannot believe this tragedy has fallen on Lindsay and her beautiful family. I am an RN at MGH in the OB department. This is a lovely woman. There is no doubt in my mind that Lindsay suffered postpartum psychosis. Dear Judge, please have compassion and allow her to recover in an environment other than a jail cell. I believe this will change the way we treat women who suffer from postpartum depression. Even in the most horrific moment of her life, Lindsay is still helping people.

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  Dear Mr. Reddington, I am hopeful you will accept this letter of character reference for dear sweet Lindsay Clancy. Despite the tragic events that occurred on January 24th, I can attest to Lindsay's true character and know that whatever happened that day was not the real Lindsay whom we all love and cherish. Lindsay's unending thoughtfulness and love spilled over into all aspects of her life. Her children, her friends, her career, everyone knew it.

• 1:45:56Colin Brown?

  Another friend of Lindsay's posted on social media about a note Lindsay had written her after she had a baby. The friend's post read, "It was a gut punch to find this letter in my drawer the other day, to see this beautiful handwriting that I remember so well from our high school days. The past days have been heart wrenching to say the least, but the warmth that I felt while reading this just has to be shared with someone else. Her message is too important. I don't have the words to adequately describe the kind of mother she was to her three babies or the kind of friend she has been for the past 20 years. So, the easiest thing to do is share hers. Lindsay wrote me this letter when I was expecting my son and about to become a new mom. Her words are so beautiful and embody the true spirit of motherhood.

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  I always went to her for advice during the pregnancy uncertainties, the postpartum isolation, and the scary parenting firsts. She knew it all. She knew the roller coaster all too well. She is pure light and was still all consumed by an inexplicable darkness. I know the true Lindsay. Amidst the terrible things that have been and will be said about her, I want everyone to know the true Lindsay. We need to do better than a pamphlet in the hospital." But, under the caption, she attached a photo of Lindsay's letter. It read-

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  "The biggest congratulations on your sweet baby boy. Get ready for the wildest ride of your life. Motherhood. It's the most profoundly challenging, yet deeply fulfilling experience you will ever have. You're about to embark on a journey with the highest highs and the lowest lows. The joy, the pain, and everything in between. Everyone will have advice for you and an opinion. Take what you like, ignore what you don't, and do what works for you and your family. There really aren't any rights or wrongs when it comes to parenting. It's an art, not a science. There is no exact recipe for how to do it, and they don't come with a set of instructions. Your baby is a unique individual, so what works for others may not work for you.

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  At the end of the day, trust your instincts and love your baby. Know that everything is a phase. When things get tough, know that that phase will pass, and before you know it, you'll be on to a new phase. Enjoy the fun, precious, joyous moments, because there are so many of those too. You will naturally take beautiful care of your baby, but always remember to also take care of yourself and your relationship with Cole as well. Motherhood can be all-consuming if you let it be. Let yourself delve deep into it, but also take time to come up for air and remember who you were before you became a mother."

• 1:48:33Colin Brown?

  Now, that is where we're going to end part two. But in part three of this story, we're going to walk you through Lindsay Clancy's trial and everything that has come out in this incredibly controversial case. Hey, everybody, it's Colin here. Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of Murder in America. I know for our Patreon members, part three is going to be available very soon. We are hard at work on it behind the scenes, but as you know, this is an unfolding ordeal, so we are learning new information every day, and we're trying to keep these scripts as up to date as possible. If you want to help support the show and what we do here, please consider joining us on Patreon.

• 1:49:18Colin Brown?

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