
Summary
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The hosts dive into the tragic history and haunting legacy of the Lemp family and their famous St. Louis mansion. Founded by German immigrant Johann Adam Lemp in the mid-19th century, the Lemp brewing empire grew massively through clever use of local cave systems for beer lagering and shrewd business strategies. However, the family was subsequently struck by a devastating chain of tragedies, including sudden deaths, high-profile divorces, and multiple suicides spanning decades. Following the devastation of Prohibition and the collapse of the brewery, several members of the Lemp family took their own lives inside the mansion, eventually leading to its reputation as one of America's most haunted locations. The discussion details the specific business expansions, family disputes, and eerie paranormal encounters reported by guests and renovators alike.
- Johann Adam Lemp utilized St. Louis cave systems to successfully complete the lagering phase of his beer. 11:45
- William Lemp greatly increased brewery output by moving the actual brewing operations directly above the cave system. 15:35
- Lillian Lemp won a landmark $100,000 lump sum alimony settlement from Billy Lemp in her high-profile divorce. 27:49
- Prohibition forced the Lemp brewery to attempt manufacturing non-alcoholic beer before ultimately collapsing and selling off assets. 38:04
- The Lemp Mansion was transformed into a restaurant and bed and breakfast in the 1970s after falling into near disrepair. 46:06
Chapters
- 0:01Podcast Intro and Advertisements
The episode opens with a brief intro and multiple sponsor ads before the hosts introduce themselves.
- 2:01Hosts Introduce Morbid and Set the Scene
The hosts, Ash and Elena, greet listeners and recap their previous episode before diving into the main topic.
- 9:18Transition to Lemp Mansion Story
The hosts shift focus to the haunting of Lemp Mansion, teasing the historical background and impending supernatural elements.
- 10:11Origins of the Lemp Brewing Empire
The narrative covers Johann Adam Lemp's migration, brewery establishment, and the strategic use of cave systems for lagering.
- 45:42Aftermath and Haunted Legacy
After the family's demise, the mansion becomes a boarding house, later a restaurant, and begins to exhibit paranormal activity.
- 48:06Modern-Day Ghost Encounters and Media Attention
The hosts recount recent ghost sightings, media coverage, and the mansion's status as a haunted attraction.
- 49:00Lemp Mansion Ghost Intro
Hosts introduce the haunting history of Lemp Mansion and its reputation for supernatural encounters.
- 49:57Restaurant Ghost Sightings
Employees describe frequent appearances of Lemp family members in the restaurant’s dining areas and hallways.
- 50:41Bed & Breakfast Ghost Reports
Guests report finding a full-body apparition sitting up in their beds after staying at the B&B.
- 51:14Owners’ Reflections on Ghosts
Co‑owner Paul Pointer and Mary Pointer share their experiences and attitudes toward the mansion’s hauntings.
- 51:53Hosts’ Ghost‑Hunters Excitement
The hosts express enthusiasm about seeing ghosts and planning a séance at Lemp Mansion.
- 53:01Episode Wrap‑Up and Missouri Tips
Hosts conclude the episode, encouraging listeners to visit St. Louis and explore Missouri attractions.
Highlights
- 11:45
Caves Used For Brewingstrategy
The success of the early Lemp brewery relied heavily on local St. Louis caves that provided the ideal cold environment for the lagering phase of beer production.
- 20:33
Tragic Death of Frederickstory
The family's downward spiral began when William Lemp's favorite son, Frederick, died unexpectedly from heart complications in California at a young age.
- 26:51
The Lavender Lady Divorcestory
Lillian Lemp, known as the Lavender Lady for her exclusive wardrobe choices, went through a fiercely contested divorce from Billy Lemp that captivated St. Louis.
- 34:21
Prohibition Destroys Lemp Businessinsight
The ratification of the 18th Amendment banned the manufacture and sale of alcohol, dealing a catastrophic blow to the Lemp family brewing empire.
- 42:54
Charles Lemp Reclusive Returnstory
Charles Lemp returned to live alone in the half-empty family mansion in 1929, becoming increasingly reclusive before ultimately taking his own life there.
- 46:19
Renovation Paranormal Experiencesstory
During the 1970s renovations, workers reported unsettling feelings of being watched and invisible presences while attempting to restore the historic home.
- 49:47
Charles Lemp Apparition Sightedinsight
Boarders and visitors frequently reported seeing the apparition of Charles Lemp smiling steadily at them in the hallways and stairwells of the mansion.
Quotes
“Carrie is a story about how small acts of cruelty snowball into something catastrophic, a theme that feels as painfully relevant today as it did 50 years ago.”
Unnamed speaker · 0:24 “In 1950, just one year after Charles's death, in the year the mansion was turned into a boarding house, one of the earliest boarders had a run in with the last Lemp to live in the house.”
Unnamed speaker · 49:18 “I have never seen any pictures of a Lemp family member, but I know this man was the ghost of Charles Lemp.”
Unnamed speaker · 49:42 “Mary Pointer said, 'Some sad things did happen in that family, but any house that's over 150 years old is going to have a history.'”
Unnamed speaker · 51:33 “We are gonna have a seance.”
Unnamed speaker · 51:55
Sponsored segments
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About this episode
Throughout the latter half of the nineteenth century, as America spread westward, industrial tycoons made a fortune building out the nation’s infrastructure, and growing their already substantial wealth in the process. In St. Louis, Missouri, one of those tycoons was Adam Lemp, whose Western Brewery was among the most productive and prosperous breweries in America. Following Adam’s death, the brewery was passed down to his son, William, starting a dynasty that would last nearly a century. It seems that, when Lemp passed the business on, he may have also passed on something far more insidious to his descendants that would mark the Lemp family for tragedy. In the decades that followed, the Lemp family suffered one tragic death after another, each one playing out in the Benton Park mansion where the Lemps resided. For more than a century, the residents of St. Louis have wondered who—or what—resided in the mansion that caused so much misfortune, and whether the spirits of the Lemps still walk the halls.
Transcript
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Topics
- St. Louis
- Carrie
- Lemp Mansion
- Missouri
- PBR
- Prime Video
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