The Disappearance of Daniel Robinson

Anyone with any knowledge of his disappearance is encouraged to reach out to the family through their 24/7 tip line at 844-602-0660, or to the Buckeye Police Department at 623-349-6411. When twenty-four-year-old geologist Daniel Robinson left work on the morning of June 23, 2021, no one knew where he was going or why he was leaving work so early; they only noticed that he was driving west, further into the desert. The unexpected departure was out of character for Robinson, so when he failed to return that afternoon and no one had heard from him outside of work, his disappearance was reported to the police. Days soon turned to weeks and there was still no sign of Daniel. Then, in late July, a month after he went missing, Daniel’s Jeep was found rolled over and crashed in a ravine some distance from the job site. The airbags in the car had both deployed and there was significant damage to the vehicle, but there was no sign of Daniel Robinson, turning a relatively routine missing person case into a bizarre mystery that remains unsolved to this day.

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  Hey weirdos, I'm Ash.

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  I'm Elena.

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  And this is a rainy day, Mwabed.

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  Oh, it is.

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  Did I hear the pitter patter?

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  Oh, my God. Today is the most beautiful day ever.

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  It's feeling fall.

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  I woke up and I looked at the weather and it said feels like 65 and I cried.

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  That's iconic.

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  Tears of joy. And then I put on a new sweatshirt that I didn't know had thumb holes.

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  Oh, that, there's nothing better.

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  Nothing better than a thumb hole.

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  Nothing better.

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  And a new sweatshirt.

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  It's sweater weather, but it's also sweatshirt weather.

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  I am into it. We put on Halloween Town this morning.

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  Fuck, yeah.

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  While we ate our breakfast.

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  It was real.

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  I'm gonna bake today.

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  I'm gonna bake today. What are you making?

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  I'm gonna make some apple crisp.

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  I'm making apple crisp.

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  Hell, yeah.

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  Drew specifically wanted apple crisp.

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  I gotta make some pumpkin loaves.

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  What app, do you use Honey Crisp, Honey Crisp apples for your apple crisp?

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  I do. I usually do.

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  They work really well.

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  Yeah, yeah. What else are you gonna make?

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  I'm gonna make some pumpkin loaf.

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  Hmm.

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  And I'm gonna make some crock pot meals.

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  I'm gonna do a crock pot meal today, too.

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  Yeah, I'm gonna try to meal plan for the week.

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  Yeah, I'm gonna make egg bites and I'm gonna make extra for you.

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  I love that.

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  I love your egg bites.

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  I do make a mean fucking egg bite.

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  She makes a mean egg bite.

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  I just put cottage cheese in it and I immersion blend it and then just spices and cheese. It's really good.

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  Where it's at.

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  Yeah, truly.

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  And I get one of those silicone things to cook them in. I think that helps, but you gotta put it in a water bath, much like a cheesecake.

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  You gotta bathe, you gotta bathe it.

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  Yeah, you know.

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  I'll buy that.

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  That was one of the things that my youngest said last night. I was just thinking about that because we were like, it's bath time. And she was like, oh, my God, we have to bathe every day. Like, she was just like, you're the worst parents.

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  You're like, listen, you won't smell okay?

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  Kids are gross, man. Like, yeah.

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  Yeah. Also, they were like, they were outside a lot yesterday.

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  Yeah, it's like you were running around barefoot outside.

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  Yeah.

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  Like, sorry, I won't allow you to track dirt into your bed. My bad.

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  She was like, oh, God. She's like, fuck y'all.

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  Like, damn, sorry about it.

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  She's crazy.

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  She is crazy. Um, but yeah, I don't know if we have, um, any business, really.

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  I don't think so.

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  Because I think we're getting into spooky season. So of course, that, you know, that'll start bringing the spooky spooky.

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  Somebody pointed out, we haven't said Proctober.

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  Oh, my God.

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  Yeah, we are remiss for that.

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  For reminding us.

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  Yeah, thank you.

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  We were saying.

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  Goodness for you.

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  We were saying pre-October still, but at one point, we realized we could say Proctober.

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  Yes, John Proctober.

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  And right now, it's Proctober.

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  It's Proctober. Uh, I also, I need to have a Salem trip. I just need, I need it.

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  We should go to Salem soon.

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  No, I literally need it. Like, my, it'll heal. And again, as always, if you're going to Salem this year, I don't live there, but be nice, because people live there.

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  Yeah, that's the thing.

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  And I think this is the time of year when the poor people who live there and have businesses there are like.

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  Get sieged upon.

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  Gird your loins and like, most people are awful, like, honestly, great.

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  Yeah.

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  In Salem, but most people are awesome when they go to Salem, you know, like, know how to be humans, but there's always a group that comes from like somewhere else.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  And they.

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  They run amok.

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  Destroy the place and they make it really hard for people who live there. And I just feel bad for the people who live them right there.

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  Sarah's Andersons.

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  So everybody just keep that in mind. When you go to Salem, just treat it like you would your home, you know?

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  Hell, yeah.

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  Yeah, that's the thing. Just be respectful.

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  It's my PSA.

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  Yeah, I like it.

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  For the people who live in Salem.

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  Yeah.

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  The good, the good Salem.

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  The good citizens of Salem.

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  What are they called? What are you called if you live in Salem?

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  I don't know.

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  Let me ask Siri.

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  Yeah.

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  What are people who live in Salem, Massachusetts called?

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  Here are some results.

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  You're so stupid.

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  Mwabed is like, it just sent me like a fucking thing to Salem. I was like, no, I know what it is. I probably shouldn't say that because AI is gonna like kill us all soon.

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  It is.

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  I wait, I turned it off before I said that.

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  Yeah.

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  It still hurt you?

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  I know, that's actually super valid.

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  You can't turn it off. That's the problem.

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  We're besties. It was a joke.

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  What are people who live in Salem called?

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  Salemites.

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  Oh, my God, I almost said that, but it sounded weird.

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  Or sometimes, uh, they're playfully called Salemanders.

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  Sit.

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  Salemanders.

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  This is so weird. When you said it, I was like, wouldn't it be, in my head, I was like, it would be funny if they were Salemanders. I literally thought of that and I didn't say it out loud.

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  That is funny.

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  It ruined my moment.

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  Damn, you ruined your own moment.

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  I like Salemanders and apparently, uh, locals also prefer that.

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  I like that. I like it a lot.

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  Yeah, that's fun.

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  So be kind to the Salemanders.

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  Yeah, be kind to their place of, of residence.

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  Of origin.

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  And working.

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  Yes.

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  Of a toll.

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  But yeah, it's spooky season, y'all. So we're gonna have some spooky stuff happening. We don't know what yet, but, but it'll come. So.

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  All right, Herman Munster. Mark down your time codes. The show's starting.

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  I like that.

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  I was thinking of Luann.

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  I feel like he would never.

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  No, he wouldn't. But I was thinking of Luann, when she says, you walk in with your Herman Munster shoes. And then Alex McCourt says, they were Louis Vuitton.

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  No, you say, all right, Brock.

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  Brock.

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  It makes sense.

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  Yeah, it just makes me think of Reba.

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  Mark it down.

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  Ash, Reba's on.

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  Reba's on. So today, we're gonna be talking about, um, and this one drives me crazy because I just want answers for this family. We're gonna talk about the disappearance of Daniel Robinson.

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  Yeah. I remember when this was like, just breaking.

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  And as a, I was on a side right away, we are gonna mention Gabby Petito, in the case of Gabby Petito. Uh, we will cover that Gabby's case eventually.

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  Yeah.

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  Um, we just didn't cover it while it was happening because, one, it was, we don't cover things that, I think that should be said now, because we get a lot of, um, suggestions for cases that are in the middle of happening and we don't do that.

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  No.

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  So we'll never do that. Um.

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  I think we did it once during the Lori Vallow case.

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  Yeah, and I think it was, yeah, I, we'll never do that.

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  Well, it wasn't a mistake, but it was just like.

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  But it was just hard.

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  Yeah.

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  I'd like to get all the facts before.

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  Yeah.

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  Cover a case, but also, you know, that one was just, that one like, really, it's just like, hit hard. I feel like.

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  Yeah, Gabby was a listener.

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  Yeah, I don't know. It just felt, it's felt strange to cover it then. So we'll cover it eventually for sure, because, um, her family's like amazing and.

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  Yeah.

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  I wanna make sure we honor her.

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  Absolutely.

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  But in this case, where I'm talking about Daniel, I'm going to mention her case. I'm not going to go into depth about it. So I just didn't want anyone being like, you're just like gonna skim over it.

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  Skim over, yeah.

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  I'm ju, for, in this context, I'm just giving you like a really quick overview. We will go in depth eventually.

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  Yeah, today, we're focusing on Daniel.

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  Yeah, I wanted to focus on Daniel in this. Um, so let's begin by talking about Daniel.

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  Let's.

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  Because right now, Daniel has not been found.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  And this was back in 2021, so I want Daniel found.

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  That's been a long time. It's been five years.

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  Um, so Daniel had always wanted to show the world that he could, he could succeed no matter what his circumstances were. Like, he was driven, he was motivated, he was confident. When he was born, actually, he was missing the lower portion of his right arm, just below the elbow.

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  Oh, wow.

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  And so it left him with only one hand. Um, despite this, he never let that challenge get the best of him. He just took it as like, you know, and I'm just special and I can do even more things.

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  Hell, yeah.

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  Um, and it never dictated anything he could or couldn't do. You know, playing sports, like football and basketball, he still did it, or playing trumpet in his high school band. He still went for it all. Uh, he met each challenge with, you know, enthusiasm. He had such a big, bright, enthusiastic smile at all times. Um, his mother, Melissa Edmonds, recalled, he was used to people saying, why were you born like that? And he'd just say, that's the way God made me.

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  Also, imagine asking somebody why you were born like that.

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  Yeah.

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  I don't fucking know.

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  That's, that's wild. That's wild work.

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  Jesus Christ.

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  Um, she said, that's what made him so special. He would not let anyone tell him what he couldn't do.

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  Yeah.

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  Now spurred by the growing concerns for climate change, which we should all be spurred by.

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  Honey, you heard of the El Nino coming?

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  Yeah, Daniel decided to pursue a degree in geology at the College of Charleston in Charleston, South Carolina. Uh, it was there that he really started to flourish. He built a very strong support group. He had a lot of friends and he was really, really developing like a sense of independence. And after graduating with his degree in 2019, he was quickly offered a job as a hydrogeologist with a Matrix New World, which required him to relocate to Phoenix, Arizona.

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  Okay.

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  Now, moving across the country was difficult. He had a really close relationship with his family and friends, but he was also like really eager to start his professional life. He had worked very hard for this. He'd earned it, you know, and he, and again, he was always searching for like his kind of independence.

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  Right.

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  Unfortunately, within a few months, he learned that an independent life was more expensive than he'd anticipated than any of us really anticipate. And his entry level job didn't quite pay enough to cover the bills. So as a result, he was forced to get a second job in the evenings. He was driving for a delivery app, Instacart.

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  Okay.

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  The additional

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  Hell, yeah, Instacart shoppers.

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  The additional work was occasionally exhausting, which I'm sure after a long day.

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  Yeah.

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  So many of the, like, people delivering for Instacart or anything like that have already worked a full day.

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  Well, you think about it as a user of Instacart, you're doing it because you've had a long day and you don't want to go somewhere. But then that's so many people's second job and they're doing the same thing.

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  Yeah. And so

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  That's tough.

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  Yeah. And so many of them do it with like so much enthusiasm.

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  Yes, the diamond shoppers.

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  Yeah, like, come on. But again, it was occasionally exhausting, but he knew it was going to be temporary, so it kind of made it easier for him. Now, on the morning of June 23rd, 2021, Daniel drove out to a work site in the middle of the Arizona desert, just outside Buckeye in Maricopa County. He arrived there around 9:30 a.m. It was raining hard when he got to the site. So Daniel and his coworker, Ken Elliott, took shelter and just kind of chatted for a while, while waiting for the weather to clear up. Later, Elliott recalled, I had asked him whether or not he wanted to just hang tight and let the storm cell pass overhead before we started, so we wouldn't get all

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  our paperwork wet. But he said, he didn't respond. So when he looked up at him, he noticed that Daniel was staring off into the desert, like, kind of in his zone.

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  Huh.

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  You know, like

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  Kind of spacing out.

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  He said, Elliott later said, he had a very, very distant look in his eyes. That's when he got in his Jeep and left.

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  Oh.

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  Yeah.

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  Okay. I don't remember all the details about this case.

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  So it seems strange that Daniel would just get into his car and leave without saying anything, but Ken didn't know him very well. So he was like, I don't know, maybe that's just how he is. Like, he didn't feel like it was alarming. Like, it wasn't like some big production. He just kind of got up and left.

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  Yeah.

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  But when the principal of New Matrix called to check in that morning, Elliott did mention that Daniel had just taken off without saying where he was going or why. And to those who knew Daniel well, this behavior was definitely unusual.

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  Right.

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  Again, like Ken Elliott was like, I just didn't know him that well. So but everybody who knew him was like, no, that's extremely out of character for him. Like, he just wouldn't do that. His brother David said, Daniel's never been the person to give up or quit anything or to just walk away. So for him to go to work for a few hours and just leave out of nowhere and not say anything to anybody, the red flags were going up for sure.

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  Yeah.

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  Because remember, this is Daniel who never let anything, even like the disadvantage that he was born with, stop him from doing anything or giving up on anything.

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  Right.

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  Now, around 2:30 p.m., Ken Elliott got a call from his supervisor at New Matrix, and the supervisor let him know that they still hadn't heard from Daniel. And they asked Elliott to drive around the area near the site to see if they could find him. Ken got into his truck and drove in the direction Daniel had left that morning. And he said the hard rain that morning had kind of washed away any tracks that could have been left in the dirt. So Elliott was able to track Daniel by like, just kind of following what tracks he could through the desert. But eventually, he reached an intersection where he made a concerning discovery.

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  Oh.

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  A right turn would have taken the driver back to the main road that led into the city. But Daniel took a left, which would have taken him deeper into the desert.

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  Yeah, that's not where you want to.

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  That would throw me off as well, because you're like, where were you going?

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  Yeah.

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  And why did you just suddenly go there?

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  Right.

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  So obviously, concerned for Daniel's safety, his supervisor called his parents, Melissa and David Senior, back in South Carolina. But neither of them had spoken to their son that day, and they had no idea what could have caused him to just walk off the job the way he did. The news of Daniel's disappearance was immediately alarming for his mother, causing her to think back to the last time she'd heard from him. The day before he went missing, Daniel called his mother and left like a kind of vague message saying that he loved her and asking that she call him back.

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  Okay.

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  It wasn't the content of the message that she found unusual, because Daniel was very close to his mother. So like, this wasn't strange. But she, it was the way he sounded.

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  Okay.

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  He had always been really positive, really optimistic, really enthusiastic when he called. But this time, there was something in his tone that just struck as not right.

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  And a mom can tell.

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  You always can tell. After learning of his disappearance, she immediately called Daniel's cell phone, which she would continue to do for the rest of the day, but never got a response.

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  Oh, that's awful.

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  Now, that night, when they still hadn't heard from Daniel, his parents called the Buckeye Police to report him missing. Although it had only been 12 hours since he was last seen, the circumstances were so strange, and obviously, the potential hazards where he could be.

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  I was just going to say dire.

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  Were numerous.

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  And when he's in the fucking desert.

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  Yeah, like local reporter Nicole Greg said, I don't think people realize that here in Arizona, we're actually one of the top five states for missing persons.

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  Yeah.

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  There's just so much desert that getting lost or getting stranded, stranded in the desert, you're out on your own. So it doesn't take long for dehydration to set in. The elements out there are really severe and unsurvivable, really.

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  Yeah.

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  Now, it wasn't just the elements and high temperatures that were really posing a risk to someone who was alone in those remote parts of the Arizona desert. There were also the animals to contend with. Among the biggest threats in that part of the country are the snakes.

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  Mm hmm.

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  There's a lot of venomous and extremely territorial snakes, like the diamondbacked rattlesnake.

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  Oh.

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  And the sidewinder, which

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  Sidewinder.

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  tend to, and they literally sidewind. Like, yeah. And they tend to blend into the desert as well.

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  Oh, shit.

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  It might not be noticed until it's way too late. You're too close. As Daniel's mother put it in a 2023 interview, the desert is just a place where bad things happen.

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  Yeah.

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  Because there's also like, there's bad stuff that happens deep in the desert, like with people, too.

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  I can't, his poor parents.

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  Yeah.

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  To be left wondering.

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  Oh, my God, they, because the amount of things that you're thinking of are just, and they're awful. All of them are awful.

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  Yeah.

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  Now, given the potential dangers, a Buckeye police officer told Daniel's father that he would go out that evening to drive around the job site and look for Daniel, suggesting he might have simply broken down by the side of the road and attempted to walk to get

• 20:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  But after driving around the area for some time, the officer found no sign of Daniel anywhere. It was like he left the job site that morning and just poof, vanished. Now, when it comes to searching for a missing person, the first few days, we've said this a million times-

• 20:47Speaker 00

  Most important.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  -critical-

• 20:48Speaker 00

  Yup.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  -to the investigation. But in the case of Daniel's disappearance, there was so little to go on that Buckeye police didn't really know where to look. The morning after he was reported missing, a massive search campaign was mounted, primarily focused on the region around the work site. Unfortunately, after conducting a thorough search of the area, they found no sign of Daniel or any evidence that he'd even been there at any time in the last few days.

• 21:14Speaker 00

  That's strange.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  During the height of the afternoon, temperatures in the desert can reach between 110 to 115 degrees-

• 21:21Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Without water or proper clothing to cover your skin, dehydration and other very serious health problems can set in in a matter of hours.

• 21:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  That morning, when he arrived at the job site, he had dressed appropriately for a day of working in the hot sun, but no one knew whether he had packed any food or water in his car or how much.

• 21:41Speaker 00

  Right.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Further concerning was the fact that by the second day of the search, calls to his cellphone were going straight to voicemail.

• 21:48Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Indicating that he had either turned it off or the battery had died.

• 21:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Now, and I would assume or he was out of service.

• 21:56Speaker 00

  Yup, yeah.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Three different avenues here. None of them are great.

• 22:00Speaker 00

  No.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  Now, unable to find any sign of where Daniel might have gone, detectives took a step back and began looking at his behavior in the days and weeks before he went missing. According to his family, Daniel had always been a happy guy, which made it easy to recognize when something was bothering him. And that summer, something definitely seemed off.

• 22:19Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  A few weeks before he went missing, Daniel's brother, David, noticed that Daniel had deleted all the pictures from his Instagram account, but kept the account active. David told detectives about that, but claims they didn't think it was a factor in the case, which I think is wild.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  That is wild.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:35Speaker 00

  I mean, there's a myriad of reasons you can do that. I do that so frequently and people got so concerned and messaged me about it, but like hand in hand with the fact that he then disappeared.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  That's the thing. If you disappeared and that had just happened, I would-

• 22:46Speaker 00

  That's weird.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  At the very least, I wouldn't say that's obviously what's going on, but it's like, I would at the very least be like, yeah, that's something we have to consider.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  David said, "At least for me, it was very upsetting that the police department, that the police department, no one took us seriously enough to say something's not right here. We know it may look like he just walked away, but something's not right with this."

• 23:05Speaker 00

  No.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  Which I fully agree.

• 23:07Speaker 00

  No.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  When people go missing, it's common for friends and family to think back, you know, over the recent weeks before they went missing and pick apart any interaction, looking for clues-

• 23:16Speaker 00

  Because what else are you gonna do?

• 23:17Speaker 01

  What else are you going to do?

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 23:19Speaker 01

  And also, the answer might be there.

• 23:21Speaker 00

  In those clues, yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  You know, and of course, it's easy to like overanalyze comments that they made or something.

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  But sometimes that's where the answer lies.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  Well, your family knows you best. So it's like, let's listen to the family.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. There is an instance that Daniel did spend the weekend with a friend from college, like in recent weeks before he went missing.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  This man's, his name was Luke Greco. He said he didn't recall anything unusual about Daniel in the days before he disappeared from what he had experienced.

• 23:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  According to Greco, Daniel was enthusiastic, very eager to show his friend around the city. He said, "I hadn't seen him in at least a year. I remember he was super excited to be able to hang out together." So they spent several days together and he was with him the day before he went missing, but he doesn't remember anything odd about his behavior.

• 24:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  In fact, he said he seemed excited about his job and even more excited about having met a girl recently that he really liked.

• 24:17Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  This stuck out in Luke's mind because as far as he knew, Daniel had never had a girlfriend before or even really dated that much.

• 24:24Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 24:24Speaker 01

  So he was like, this was like a big deal.

• 24:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, exciting.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Luke didn't get much information about the girl Daniel was interested in, but he did remember her name and he gave that to investigators, hoping maybe this could help. According to David Jr., his brother, Daniel had met the young woman while he was working his second job, driving for Instacart. He was immediately like smitten with her.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  Total.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  After exchanging numbers, the two texted back and forth for a few weeks and eventually went on a date. But when Daniel stopped talking about her, his family members just thought things hadn't really worked out and they didn't want to bring her up and like upset him if something happened. You know, detectives managed to track the woman down, hoping she might have heard from Daniel recently, but she hadn't heard from him in several weeks. In fact, despite what he had told Luke and his siblings, things between Daniel and the woman had ended a little bit unpleasantly.

• 25:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 25:16Speaker 01

  The details of this relationship have not been made public, you know, and the identity of the woman has not been made public either.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  And she did like share texts with detectives that she had had, and it was really like her, like him being like, "Do you not like me? Like what's going on?" And her just being like, "You gotta back off. Like, I don't hate you. Like, please just like-"

• 25:38Speaker 00

  But I'm just like, not interested.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, "I'm not into it." And it seemed like he was trying to hold on to it.

• 25:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  So for investigators, this at least made them think, okay, was there something going on with Daniel's mental health around the time he went missing?

• 25:53Speaker 00

  And everything you've said so far does almost make me feel that way.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 00

  Just based on what I know from like today.

• 25:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it gave credence to the family's ideas that something just wasn't right-

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  -around this time.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Right. Well, and even like the voicemail, like his mom said his tone was off.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  Like something just seems a little, little off. His brother said, "Within the last month or so prior to him going missing, there's a big shift in his personality just because he's been so shut off and reserved." Despite noticing the change in Daniel's demeanor, they didn't want to like push too hard on him because like sometimes you can push them to shut down more.

• 26:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, or like not open up to you at all.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, so they just kind of like treaded lightly, waited for him to share his feelings when he was ready, just like trying to be supportive.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Now, the text messages, you know, and the relationship and other revelations open up a new avenue of inquiry that it could, it could be helpful to the investigation. Again, like the mental health aspect. Throughout his high school years and college years, Daniel was friendly, outgoing, and had a tendency to attract people. He was just like a really cool guy.

• 26:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, like-

• 26:54Speaker 01

  Which, which led to him building a large friend group and having a very active social life. People just liked being around him. But since he'd been to Arizona, he'd struggled to meet new people. And on multiple occasions, he told his mother he was lonely.

• 27:07Speaker 00

  I feel like that transition post-college and then especially starting out in a new state and a new area.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Really different new state, like, you know, it's just-

• 27:14Speaker 00

  That's really tough.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  And when you're, I mean, like you're working during the day and then he's working at night, it's like you don't have a ton of time to meet new people in like fun circumstances.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  And like match a schedule with anybody that you really can form a long relationship.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Right.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  Now, when he began expressing excitement about having met a girl, they thought things were finally starting to turn around for him. But now that they knew that it didn't turn out great, everyone started to wonder whether the rejection had hit him a lot harder than it probably would have before.

• 27:43Speaker 00

  Because of the circumstances.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  Just because of where he was.

• 27:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:45Speaker 01

  Hoping to gain more insight into his mental state at the time, investigators convinced Daniel's landlord to let them into his apartment so they could perform a well-being check.

• 27:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  What they found inside was kind of shocking. Now, David, his brother, said, "I lived with him since he was born. Daniel's never been an organized person, but this was beyond even for him."

• 28:08Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  "It was dirty. It was bad. Daniel's never been the kind of person to live like that."

• 28:14Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  So that will tell you like something is off here.

• 28:16Speaker 00

  In a mental state, yeah.

• 28:18Speaker 01

  Among other things, there were dirty dishes piled up in the sink, on the counter, even on the floor. There was old food, garbage. In his bedroom, his clothes were strewn around the room, like he had taken them off and just kind of left them where they fell, like for weeks.

• 28:33Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  If the bathroom was dirty, then anyone had ever seen him live, but they were like, "This just isn't him."

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  Like, "He's not this way."

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Right.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  His brother said, "You can just see that he was clearly going through something and he stopped caring about his living space."

• 28:46Speaker 00

  Oh, that would be so awful to see as his family to know that, like, you assumed he was going through it, but it's even worse than you saw.

• 28:53Speaker 01

  Than you even knew. Now, based on the evidence, investigators were starting to seriously consider whether Daniel had gone out into the desert, possibly intending to not come back.

• 29:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  But the family felt that there was no way Daniel would have done such a thing. And I can understand, like, this is just not-

• 29:09Speaker 00

  Comprehensible.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  None of it feels like it's adding up. Although they admitted that he was, quote, "Not like himself in the days before he went missing," they couldn't see any indication that he wanted to leave and never come back. You know, like that just wasn't coming out to them.

• 29:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  According to his family, despite the noticeable change in his personality, he was still future oriented around, you know, and even close to his disappearance, he was future oriented, which of course, things can change in an instant.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, especially when you're going through it, like with your mental health.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  But it's hard when like families, like he's making plans to visit friends and family, like he's never mentioned any kind of like indication that he would hurt himself.

• 29:50Speaker 00

  Right.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  They just, from what they knew of him, and they were a close family-

• 29:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  It just wasn't seeming that way.

• 29:57Speaker 00

  Right. And I, yeah, like I get that.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  It can be tough, you know, like it can be tough because obviously, we don't know what's going on in anyone's head.

• 30:04Speaker 00

  No.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  Even if we're close to them. But it's really hard to be the family that's so close to him and be like, "We didn't see any of this."

• 30:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  So as the investigation started nearing its one month timeframe, the Buckeye Police were struggling to make progress and it looked as though the case was going cold. And that's when they received a tip from a woman who said, Daniel, she saw Daniel in a grocery store near Phoenix.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  According to the caller, she saw a young man who matched Daniel's description and he appeared slightly disheveled.

• 30:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  When she spoke to him, he mentioned something about being on a journey. So she gave him food and water, but when she asked if they could take a picture together, the young man refused.

• 30:48Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Unfortunately, when investigators went to the store and spoke to the staff, they were informed that the young man the woman described was actually a local in Watson Daniel Robinson.

• 30:58Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 30:59Speaker 01

  Which must have been really hard for his family.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, to finally get like a little inkling of hope like that.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Now, reaching a dead end, investigators arranged for another area, for an aerial search of the area.

• 31:08Speaker 00

  Cause I'm wondering about his car. They haven't found his car at this point.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Not yet, but it turned out nothing and the case was shifted back to like, you know, in back of more active cases, which I can't imagine being a family member and hearing like, you need to be shifted back here because there's another case that's taking priority.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  I could never swallow that.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  I understand that like.

• 31:29Speaker 00

  That's just unfortunate how it goes.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  That's can't ever be something that a family member ever can even conceive of healing.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  No.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  Now with the Buckeye Police slowing their investigation, Daniel's father took up the search on his own.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  I remember him being like so incredibly active.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  His father has been relentless and he's like.

• 31:50Speaker 00

  That's a dad.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  If, if Daniel is going to be found, his family's going to find him, I feel.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  Now, so he took up the search on his own. He set up a website where people could report tips and read information. Like he's really gone the extra mile. To his surprise, the public responded in incredible numbers, turning out in droves to help search the desert. Reporter Nicole Gregg recalled David and these volunteers were out there first thing in the morning before the heat. And sadly, all these efforts, and they still weren't finding any trace of Daniel. Now, the first big break in the case finally came on July 19th, when a rancher checking on his cattle discovered Daniel's Jeep.

• 32:30Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  It was overturned in a ravine about three miles from the work site.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 32:36Speaker 01

  Which I was like, why was this not found?

• 32:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, three miles away?

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:41Speaker 00

  And they did like aerial searches of this area?

• 32:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:43Speaker 00

  They didn't find a Jeep overturned in a ravine?

• 32:45Speaker 01

  That's what was shocking to me. I was like, what?

• 32:47Speaker 00

  That's strange. Yeah, that's strange.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  And the Jeep had Daniel's clothing and personal items strewn around the outside of the vehicle.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  That's weird.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. To everyone involved, the scene looked incredibly strange. Daniel's clothing, personal belongings, including his phone, wallet and keys, were again in and around the Jeep.

• 33:08Speaker 00

  They were all there.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  Perhaps even more bizarre was the fact that investigators and search teams, like we just said, had managed to miss this car when it was just three miles from when he went missing.

• 33:20Speaker 00

  That's very strange.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't.

• 33:22Speaker 00

  Had it been there the whole time?

• 33:24Speaker 01

  His brother David said a bluish Jeep out in the brownish red desert. Even with it being in a ravine, I just don't believe that they would have possibly missed that from the air.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  Right.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  Like that's.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  That I.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:37Speaker 00

  I would feel the exact same way.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  In fact, the rancher who discovered the Jeep made a habit of checking the ravines regularly for missing cattle. And he believes if the Jeep had been there since Daniel went missing, he would have seen it earlier.

• 33:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm sitting here thinking is that it hadn't, it couldn't have possibly been there that whole time.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Cause in fact, according to the rancher, he had been in that spot just days earlier and there was no Jeep there.

• 33:59Speaker 00

  Okay, that makes more sense.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, which is even weirder.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  Well, I was just going to say that makes more sense, but also.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  It's been going on for the month.

• 34:05Speaker 00

  What the fuck?

• 34:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Upon examination, the car appeared to have gone through a serious accident, with both front airbags having been deployed, glass shattered and serious like, you know, like a structural damage, like body damage to the car. In the trunk, they discovered two cases of water looking like they were untouched. Given what they found at the scene, investigators started putting together a new theory. They believe that after leaving the work site that morning, Daniel was in an accident in the desert that caused the car to roll over.

• 34:36Speaker 00

  No, because it wasn't there before.

• 34:37Speaker 01

  But it wasn't there.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  That doesn't make sense.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  There was no sign of injury at the scene, but it seems impossible someone would not have sustained some injury. So they suspect he may have suffered a head injury?

• 34:48Speaker 00

  I don't understand.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  After getting himself out of the wreckage, they believed that Daniel was disoriented and confused, causing him to remove his clothing and wander off into the desert.

• 34:58Speaker 00

  But then you would think that you would likely, and I hate to say this, find his body nearby.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  Exactly. And the Jeep wasn't there.

• 35:05Speaker 00

  The Jeep wasn't there.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  The rancher said it wasn't there when I checked a few days ago.

• 35:08Speaker 00

  He's also not going to make it very far in the desert without any clothes on.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  With a head injury?

• 35:14Speaker 00

  And a head injury. Like you're not going to make it that far.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  I feel, I'm like, I don't know about that.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  This is weird. I did not know how weird this got.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  That's why his like family is like not letting the, because it's like, no, something weird is here. Now, again, it would, this is, that was just speculation really, because like.

• 35:37Speaker 00

  Can I just, that's like stupid speculation.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:40Speaker 00

  That makes no fucking sense.

• 35:43Speaker 01

  I just don't get it. I don't get it. Like, I really don't. The only thing that they were saying when people would bring up the idea that like, well, if, you know, you would likely find his body pretty close to the site. They said, well, there's a lot of scavengers in the desert.

• 35:57Speaker 00

  Which, yeah, for sure.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  But you're not even finding like evidence of scavengers or a body.

• 36:04Speaker 00

  Like any being there.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, or any, you know, remnants of a body. And again, the car wasn't there previously. So. That's the thing that's sticking to me.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  Why are we just pretending it was?

• 36:15Speaker 01

  It was three miles away from where he left.

• 36:17Speaker 00

  Why are we pretending that bluish Jeep was there in the desert while you were flying planes overlooking? But and the farmer himself to be like, nah, that wasn't there.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  But the, because they were putting together, they could answer for most of the things by being like scavengers, you know, whatever. This is what happened.

• 36:32Speaker 00

  The scavengers moved the fucking car?

• 36:34Speaker 01

  Exactly. So while the case remained open, investigators felt pretty justified in pulling back their search.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  That's not justified, in my opinion.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  I agree. That's how they felt.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Like that.

• 36:46Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm not, no, I know. I know what you're saying.

• 36:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Now regardless of how investigators felt or what they believed, the family was obviously unsatisfied. I would be rip shit. I too would be unsatisfied. Nothing about the scene of the crash made sense to them, especially the fact that hundreds of people searching on land and from the air had managed to miss the car during multiple searches. And the rancher said, that shit wasn't there days ago. And it's a Jeep. Like, you're not gonna miss a Jeep. Yeah. A car. Well, and the car, according to the car's computer system, the crash occurred a short time after Daniel left the job site. So if it had only showed up after the initial searches, where had it been before that? What?

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  Also, there was no sign of an accident anywhere in the area around the car. If an accident had happened between two people, surely one of the drivers would have reported it. Yeah. Cause also, what did he crash into? Well, that's, yeah. And if Daniel had hit something on the road that caused him to roll over and sustained considerable damage, there would have been evidence of that in the landscape, but there was nothing. Right. So where, how did he end up there? A short time after the discovery, Daniel's parents hired private investigator, which was smart. Yeah. Jeff McGrath. I would absolutely do the same. Criminal private investigator and former police detective with a reputation for working cases where police, and this is just his rep, I'm not saying it happened here. Yep.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  He has a reputation for working cases where police may have, um, there may have been some abuse or neglect of the case. Okay. But that is suspected. Okay. That's just his reputation. That's his history. I'm not saying that it happened. I'm not saying it happened here. Uh, McGrath looked at the report generated by the airbag deployment system and like Daniel's parents, immediately suspected something was not right here. Yeah. According to the report, the Jeep was traveling around 30 miles per hour when the crash happened. But given the rough terrain around the ravine, that didn't seem possible. No. And for your airbags to deploy? You have to hit something. Yeah. And in fact, when McGrath took his own Jeep out to the area to retrace the possible supposed path of the incident accident, the environment and obstacles made it impossible

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  for him to get to that speed. Interesting. He's like, I literally couldn't. The supposed path was equally suspicious. The tracks left at the scene indicated that the car made a straight shot into the ravine. But according to the report produced by their computer, the steering wheel had been turned at a 45 degree angle for five seconds just before the crash happened. Okay. Now, after looking over everything carefully and recreating as much of the accident as he could, Jeff McGrath came to the conclusion that the Jeep was crashed intentionally, but not at or near the site where it was found. What the fuck? He told a reporter, in my opinion, I think this was staged. What? His opinion was backed up by evidence.

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  According to the report, the car seemed to have driven an additional 11 miles after the accident occurred. What? Indicating that someone had intentionally left it where it was found. So let's go look 11 miles in each direction. Yeah. For some fucking clues. Now, the discoveries made by McGrath were a promising step towards potentially finding Daniel, but they soon found themselves faced with a new obstacle, the Buckeye Police. Hmm. According to Daniel's parents, quote, "The Buckeye Police have publicly taken credit for what has been found, making it appear that police had done exhausted research, conducted forensics, and did helicopter searches looking for Daniel, when most of

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  the work, according to, uh, Daniel's family, had in fact been done by McGrath and the family." Okay. According to David Senior, the Buckeye Police had routinely dismissed his concerns and the tips he received, telling him that, quote, "Daniel just didn't want to be found and wandered off in the desert to become a monk." Wait, what? The police said that? That's what David Senior says that. That's basically what they were telling him when. What? Then what, where, where's the head injury in the car accident? And where is he? How does that line up with him deciding to become a monk? He can't just wander into the desert. No. Like he's that, you don't survive that. So where is he? And again, like we've been saying this whole time, if, like now, I don't really

• 44:50Speaker 01

  believe personally that the car crashed there, but if that is the supposed story, he, then he wouldn't be far from that site. He's naked. Well, and also. Like evidently. How are we explaining the 11 miles? How are we explaining the 45 degree angle that we're just taking right before the crash? How are we explaining that there's literally nothing that says he crashed at that site? What? Like, what is happening here? And the rancher is just out here being like, hi. It wasn't here. It wasn't there. So like. This is so bizarre. I did not realize how bizarre this got. Yeah. Now, for the residents of the area, the growing reports that the Buckeye Police were suspected of mistakes sounded a little familiar. Oh.

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  Just a few years earlier, a 10-year-old boy went missing and was eventually found dead just seven miles from his house. At the time, Buckeye Police claimed they had, quote, "done a five to 10 mile search around the boy's house." But if that were true, they would have found the body, which was in a location inconspicuous enough that it was found by a passing street sweeper. Oh, wow. When it came to the case of Daniel Robinson, it seemed that similar mistakes were being made. Obvious evidence had been overlooked and suspicious circumstances had been ignored. Mm-hmm. But when they were asked about the evidence discovered by McGrath, Buckeye investigators simply said, quote, "None of those observations are proof of a crime." And what, it's also not proof of not a crime. Yeah.

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  And whatever, whatever it might've been evidence of, they didn't seem too interested in it. That's nice. According to McGrath, all the evidence he collected had remained in his possession and investigators never asked him to hand it over. Interesting. Yeah. So now, feeling that they are no longer able to rely on the Buckeye Police for assistance, David Robinson Senior increased his own search efforts, relying on a big group of volunteers for help. At the end of July, during one of the group's routine searches, they discovered a human skull and a, and a shoulder bone in the desert. Okay. The discovery offered the horrible possibility that the mystery might be solved, but the medical examiner reported that the remains were not Daniel Robinson. Oh.

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  Which is even more horrifying too. That's so sad, yeah. For the family, the conclusion was, you know, as much a relief as it was a frustration. Right. They didn't want to find Daniel dead, but they were desperate for any answers. Uh, his mother said, at least Daniel helped bring someone home. Yeah. So that makes me proud, which like. Oh, I just got chills from that. For three months, the family and their group of volunteers desperately searched for any sign of Daniel without any, really any attention from the press or police, because like, people weren't hearing about this. Then, in the, cause I, I think everybody remembers this case blowing up suddenly. Yeah. That was in the fall of 2021. Another disappearance shifted the national spotlight towards the Robinson case for frustrating reasons. Mm-hmm.

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  In late August 2021, 22-year-old Gabby Petito went missing while on a cross-country trip with her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie. Piece of shit. Yep. At the time, the case attracted tons of media attention from regional and national news outlets. A few weeks after her disappearance, unfortunately, Gabby's remains were discovered. After that piece of shit, Brian Laundrie's death, investigators were, and again, we're gonna cover this, so don't, I'm just going over it quick. Um, they recovered a notebook where he claimed responsibility for killing Gabby Petito. Somewhat. Um, nevertheless, critics accused the press of disproportionate coverage of the Petito case. Yeah. Because she is a young white woman. This, this does happen frequently.

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  And they really provided virtually no coverage of cases of people of color who are missing like Daniel. Um, one woman had written on social media, and this was kind of the feeling, I'm shaking reading about the discovery of poor Gabby Petito's body in Wyoming. So people were like, this is horrific. Of course. While we're watching the Petito case unfold, please take five seconds to read about Daniel Robinson. His father is still looking for him. Yeah. Two things can be true at once. Which is exactly what this person on social media did correctly. They said, this is fucking awful, and my heart is breaking and I'm shaking for Gabby Petito and her family. And this other disappearance is also awful. While you're, while you're feeling this way, just take five seconds to look at this other missing person's case, cause their family is in the same position. Right.

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  Now, despite the increased coverage of the case, no one received any new leads that would move the case forward. Hoping to spur the police into action, David Robinson Senior circulated a petition. Um, and this was, quote, "with the intention of holding accountable the Buckeye Police Department." His petition managed to collect 8,000 signatures. And in a statement to the press, he said, "This petition gives my family the ability to have their voices heard. Daniel's family will feel empowered, knowing that they have the community's support and an agreed upon desire to see that everything is being done to find Daniel." Which is the most.

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  You should never have to make a petition to

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  So reasonable.

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  Like so reasonable and you should never have to make a petition to ensure that everything is being done.

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  Yeah. And that's all they're saying they just want. Literally, this is just saying we have the community support and an agreed upon desire. Just me, our family, the community and the police. Can we all share the same desire to find my child?

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  And why would you not like share that desire?

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  Yeah. Now, in an effort to defend their investigation, the Buckeye Police released the findings of their reports to the press. Buckeye Police Chief Bob Sanders said, "We've tracked down every lead possible. The forensics examined the phone. We retraced Daniel's whereabouts to a couple of days prior to his disappearance. At this time, we have no proof of evidence anything criminal took place inside or outside the vehicle."

• 50:38Speaker 00

  But you do because of

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  Well, in

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  The 11 miles that the car drove after it crashed.

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  Well, luckily, Daniel's father refused to back down and was very unsatisfied. He said, "I don't feel like they're doing enough. When I got here, it took them three days to do the initial search for my son. That's one day too late. A person should be looked for within that 24 to 48 hour period. Anything after that is problematic."

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  It absolutely is.

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  And that is what his father said. In June 2022, the family released a statement to update the public on the case. They said, "Today marks one year that my son went, went, went missing. To the world, it's one year. To us, the family, it's every day, one after the other. Continuous moments passing by where hope is always shadowed by dismay. Somehow, day after day, the will to keep searching is triumphant over losing hope."

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  I can't imagine being in that position.

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  I think that is such an important statement that he said to, he said to the world, "It's one year." And it's so true.

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  Yeah.

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  Just a year, because we look at it and we say, wow, that was a year ago.

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  Right.

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  To them, they're like, oh no, that was this many minutes, this many seconds, this many days.

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  Yeah.

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  Of just wondering where the person I love is, like

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  And your child.

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  It makes my

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  That's inexplicable.

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  Yeah. Now, despite their enduring hope that they will find Daniel, after a few years, even, you know, even his father is beginning to accept the fact that there is a likelihood that Daniel might not be alive.

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  Yeah.

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  The best they want right now and like, one of the things they want is just answers.

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  Yeah, of course they do.

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  And unfortunately, all they keep getting is questions, more questions.

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  Oh, no.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  In 2023, years after Daniel went missing, new details about the investigation were made public, though none moved the case in one direction or the other. According to the Buckeye Police, location data from Daniel's cell phone proved that Daniel, or at least his phone, was active in the location where the car was found on the day he went missing.

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  Okay.

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  But remember, his phone, not necessarily him. As far as they saw it, this supported their theory that Daniel had crashed the car and wandered off. But the case was still referred to the FBI for further investigation.

• 52:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  So a few months later, in October 2023, David Robinson, Sr. and Jeff McGrath, revealed that an analysis of Daniel's computer and his home strongly suggested that someone had been in his apartment after he went missing and had gone through his computer and his personal belongings.

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  What?

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  Robinson told reporters, "Quote, "I was able to get the Tempe Police Department to do forensics on all of my son's electronics, from his personal computer to his gaming system. And in that information that I did receive back, someone was in his apartment, looking through his computer, searching Google history, just fooling around on his computer."

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  What?

• 53:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  And he lived on his own?

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  Mm hmm.

• 53:36Speaker 00

  That's bizarre. Looking through his Google history?

• 53:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. Now, in March 2024, Robinson announced that he was running for the US Congress in South Carolina, noting that advocating for the families of missing people would be one of his major agenda items.

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  Hell, yeah.

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  He said in his campaign, campaign announcement, "3,500 going missing every day. We definitely have to do something about that. What, call it what it is, a crisis."

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  It is a crisis.

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  Now, he was unfortunately unsuccessful in his bid for Congress, but his campaign was definitely inspiring and started bringing attention to his son's case as well as other cases.

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  Among those inspired by Robinson's activism was Gabby Petito's father, Joseph Petito. Despite his own loss, Petito had heard the criticism of the press and the disproportionate coverage of his daughter's case, and it opened his eyes to the realities of families like Daniel's.

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  Yeah.

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  He told CNN in 2024, "I did a deep dive into it. I looked at popular missing persons cases, and the ones that hit the mainstream, they all looked similar."

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  Mm hmm.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Now, since then, Joseph Petito has been a vocal advocate for the families of missing black and brown people, whose cases have been overlooked by the press, including Daniel Robinson. Robinson said, "What Mr. Petito has done for my family, it means a lot to me because he had a tragedy and it's amazing when a person can take a tragedy and make something big out of it, become an advocate and help people."

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  Yeah, that's

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  The Petito family is really impressive.

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  They're incredible.

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  Now, as of now, Daniel Robinson is still missing and no new leads have been discovered as to where he could be. Anyone with any knowledge of his disappearance is encouraged to reach out to the family through their 24/7 tip line. That's at 844-602-0660 or to the Buckeye Police Department at 623-349-6411, or both.

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  Choices.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, or both, get them both. But literally anything.

• 55:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  Make sure we're gonna post a picture of Daniel, take a look at it. If you've seen him, if you saw him before the disappearance, after, anything.

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  If you know who the fuck was in his apartment going through his computer.

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  Anything.

• 55:52Speaker 00

  Weird.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  I did not

• 55:54Speaker 00

  Could move this along.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  I did not know how weird this one got.

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  Yeah.

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  Like, it's a

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  It's bizarre.

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  Yes, and we'll post the website. We'll make sure you have all the links you need to, to take a peek at all of this.

• 56:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely take a peek, you guys.

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  I'd love to see that family get any kind of

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  They deserve it.

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  Anything.

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  Every family who goes through something like this deserves answers.

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  I just want them to get answers, that's all.

• 56:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, because there's, there's a lot of weirdness going on here.

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  Yeah, there is.

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  For sure.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  And Daniel just seemed like a, like a light, you know, like it's a good guy. What a, what a, what a loss for the world if that he's not around right now.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, and when you hate to think that he was like really going through something beforehand.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  I know.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  Well, there's really no way to transition, but we always end on a fun fact just to keep things.

• 56:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, because this one's, and again, keep it, keep it in mind, keep, take a look at the pictures.

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  Yeah.

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  Make sure you're thinking a little bit around that area and those are the places you can contact.

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  Yeah.

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  This segment is brought to you by State Farm. But moving on to the fun fact, because let's, let's bring it into fun fact territory.

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  Heck, yeah.

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  This one blew my mind.

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  What's up?

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  Australia is wider than the moon.

• 57:18Speaker 00

  Wider than the moon?

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  It's wider than the moon from east to west.

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  That's insane.

• 57:24Speaker 01

  Like, obviously, surface area, the moon is much bigger, but like

• 57:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Wider than the moon.

• 57:31Speaker 00

  What?

• 57:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:33Speaker 00

  Well, I, I mean, they have so much outback.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, this, well, the, the moon is 3,400 kilometers in diameter.

• 57:40Speaker 00

  Can you tell me that in miles, please?

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Just do a quick conversion.

• 57:44Speaker 00

  You're gonna make me do a conversion?

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Well, kilometers.

• 57:46Speaker 00

  I don't know about kilometers. Here's the one thing about me is that kilometers and miles in my brain are vastly different.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  I said it was 3,400, 2,112 miles.

• 57:59Speaker 00

  See, that in my brain makes a whole lot more. That's freaking crazy.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  That is freaking crazy. And then Australia is 4,000 kilometers, which is 2,485 miles.

• 58:12Speaker 00

  Dang.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:14Speaker 00

  It's so crazy to me how much of Australia is just like unlivable.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  I know.

• 58:19Speaker 00

  Do you, do you think about that frequently?

• 58:20Speaker 01

  So much. Well, I mean, I love getting TikToks of people who live in Australia

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  So do I.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  and how they just live in such a state of chill with the unchillest environment surrounding them.

• 58:33Speaker 00

  Huntsman spiders.

• 58:34Speaker 01

  Like that, that, Australia is trying to kill them at all turns. And they're the chillest people, just being like, yeah, it's okay. Huntsman spiders alone, I know that like, they're supposed to be real nice and they just like

• 58:47Speaker 00

  Spiders?

• 58:48Speaker 01

  They're not here to mess your day up. And they're just here to eat all the other pests in your house. And they, and they won't hurt you. Like they're, I don't, I don't think they want to hurt you. I think they're just like big and scary looking.

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  That's what we know of their intentions.

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  I just know you can hear them walking down a hallway and I don't, I don't think that's okay.

• 59:07Speaker 00

  How dare you say that to me?

• 59:09Speaker 01

  But the amount of, like Australians that will be like, oh, we just have like a house huntsman named Alfred that just, we see him every now and then.

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  Hey, Ren.

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  And I'm like, that thing's too big.

• 59:17Speaker 00

  Help me with my mortgage then.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Too big.

• 59:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're way too big to just be living off my house.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, but they just

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  They're using my warmth and AC.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Apparently, they're very helpful, so.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  I mean, it's nice that they're helpful.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  But the thing is, I'm like, but, but that's the pest I want taken care of. So the fact that he's taking care of all the other ones, that's super nice of him, but like, what takes care of him?

• 59:37Speaker 00

  But then you think about all the, then you think about all the pests that he probably is taking care of and you don't want to know about them.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  And like, ew, they have crazy bugs.

• 59:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  And it's, and it wouldn't be like, because they're, you know, it's not like they're dirty or something. It's like

• 59:52Speaker 00

  It's just the environment. Isn't that like where they used to send people to, like, that like couldn't be, like, uh,

• 59:59Speaker 01

  Rehabilitated?

• 1:00:00Speaker 00

  Rehabilitated, yeah, they were just like, go live in Australia and try to make it.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think, and try to make it.

• 1:00:04Speaker 00

  Good luck.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  I think it was literally like a prisoner colony.

• 1:00:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, like Alcatraz almost.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  Let me see. I can look it up. I can look it up.

• 1:00:16Speaker 00

  Look it up, bro.

• 1:00:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a penal colony.

• 1:00:19Speaker 00

  A penal colony?

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  Fifteen thousand prisoners a year there, the UK did.

• 1:00:23Speaker 00

  Dang.

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Speaker 00

  And they just made it through and populated that place.

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  And then they populated and they and they're like the coolest people.

• 1:00:30Speaker 00

  I love Australians.

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  Like Australians are, we've, I just, Australians have always been really good to us.

• 1:00:35Speaker 00

  They send in the best listener tales.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  And they just, I think they're so funny and I think they have the funniest outlook on most things. Like they're just cool people.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  They'd have to have a good outlook on things.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  What a great experiment that turned out to be.

• 1:00:47Speaker 00

  Living with big old spiders.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  Like Australia is such an uninhabitable for the most part because it was technically supposed to be uninhabitable.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  But the ones that's the, the ones that got through that are there now, I'm like, damn, you're some hardy. You come from hardy stock. Don't mess with Australians because.

• 1:01:05Speaker 00

  Cause they'll throw a huntsman spider at you.

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  They live with the unlivable, like, and they live with it like it's no big deal.

• 1:01:11Speaker 00

  They really do.

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:13Speaker 00

  Well, that is crazy too, that it's like so close to the size of the moon.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Speaker 00

  And would if.

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  And also just a quick little like side thing off of that.

• 1:01:21Speaker 00

  What's up?

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  Um, you know that the, that scientists call the moon the earth's child?

• 1:01:27Speaker 00

  That's the most, we have to end there. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever heard.

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, cause it really is. It's like a piece, they, they believe that a large body collided with the earth and a piece popped off and.

• 1:01:38Speaker 00

  I love space.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:39Speaker 00

  The earth's child. Wow. Thank you so much State Farm for sponsoring the fun fact segment. It's one of my favorite things ever.

• 1:01:45Speaker 01

  It is fun.

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  Thank you again to our sponsor State Farm for sponsoring this segment.

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  And with that being said, we hope you keep listening.

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  And we hope you.

• 1:01:57Speaker 00

  Keep.

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  It weird.

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  But not so weird that you don't take a minute to look a little bit more into this case and think back to that time. If you saw something, if you know something, if you know someone who knows something.

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  See if you recognize them.

• 1:02:10Speaker 00

  Call those numbers. Let's get, let's get some eyes on this case.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. Bring Daniel home.

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  Bye.

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  Bye.

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  Hey Richmond, Mark Smith, Midas Richmond, 2026. We have been doing what we do for 29 years. Total car care, total community care. In 2026, we are donating $365,000. A thousand dollars a day for the nonprofits we've historically supported. Gooch and Care, Shalom Farms, St. Joseph's Villa, Ask, The Colonial Heights Food Pantry, everybody we've helped over the years. These are important things making a big impact in our society right now. Total car care, total community care. That is Midas of Richmond.

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