AI Biohacking Breakthroughs: Transform Your Health with Gary Brecka's Top Strategies | EP #149

In this episode, Gary and Peter discuss the most important bio hacks people should know and cover a list of health tech gadgets they have at home and use daily to live longer. Recorded on Jan 23rd, 2024 Views are my own thoughts; not Financial, Medical, or Legal Advice. Gary Brecka is a renowned human biologist, biohacker, and longevity expert with over two decades of experience optimizing human performance and advancing functional medicine. As the Co-Founder and Chief Human Biologist of 10X Health System, he develops cutting-edge strategies to enhance vitality, extend lifespan, and improve quality of life. Brecka's career includes leadership roles as CEO of Streamline Medical Group and Streamline Wellness, where he specialized in anti-aging and hormone therapy, and early work as a mortality-modeling expert in the insurance industry. Holding dual Bachelor of Science degrees in Biology and Human Biology, Brecka has worked with high-profile clients, including CEOs, professional athletes, and entertainers. A sought-after speaker and host of The Ultimate Human Podcast, he continues to pioneer advancements in health and longevity through personalized bio-hacking and innovative wellness programs. Studies discussed in this episode: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39432402/ https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02311-1 Follow Gary: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs X (Twitter): https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Learn more about Hydrogen Tablets: https://www.drinkh2tab.com/ ____________ I only endorse products and services I personally use. To see what they are, please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: Get started with Fountain Life and become the CEO of your health: https://fountainlife.com/peter/ AI-powered precision diagnosis you NEED for a healthy gut: https://www.viome.com/peter Get 15% off OneSkin with the code PETER at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod _____________ I send weekly emails with the latest insights and trends on today’s and tomorrow’s exponential technologies. Stay ahead of the curve, and sign up now: Blog _____________ Connect With Peter: Twitter Instagram Youtube Moonshots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  So many people are suffering from brain fog, weight gain, water retention, poor response to exercise, poor sleep, poor deep sleep. And they think that these are just consequences of aging. They're not. They're consequences of... Gary Brecka is a human biologist. To say that this guy has changed my life is the understatement of the century. I will add seven years to the lifespan and the health span of every person in this room.

• 0:24Speaker 00

  Of all the biohacks, I'm probably most excited about hydrogen gas and hydrogen water.

• 0:29Peter Diamandis?

  Do you have visceral impact? Do you feel different?

• 0:32Speaker 00

  No question. I think it's the most overlooked in all of biohacking today. We know that we can't change the pH of the body by drinking alkaline water. We can change the pH of the body by adding hydrogen gas.

• 0:44Peter Diamandis?

  This is what I call the golden age of health span. Why some people live to 120 and others are dead at 50, there's a reason. And we're going to be able to understand that and begin to impact that.

• 1:00Speaker 02

  Now that's the moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:05Peter Diamandis?

  Everybody, welcome to Moon Shots. My guest today is Gary Brecka, renowned human biologist, biohacker, and longevity expert with over 20 years of experience on optimizing human performance and functional medicine. Gary and I are going to be talking about the technology that's available to you today in your home, in your life, to help you extend your health span and your lifespan. He's the co-founder of 10x Health Systems, past CEO of Streamline Medical Group, and the host of the Ultimate Human Podcast. I recently visited him in Miami, got a chance to play with his toys. He is the kid with the most biology and ultimate hacking toys out there.

• 1:46Peter Diamandis?

  We'll be going through it, what you can use today, what he does and when he does it. You're going to want to take some notes here and decide what you want on your Christmas list. Everybody, let's jump into our podcast on the technology you can use for optimizing your health and performance. Gary, welcome to Moon Shots, buddy.

• 2:03Speaker 00

  I'm so excited to be here, man. I really am.

• 2:05Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, you know, it's like I enjoyed being at your home in Miami. It was a technology showcase for sure, you know, and and we're going to talk about a range of technologies that people need to understand are becoming available today. That can help you first off, understand what's going on inside your body and then how to improve it. And these are not technologies that are super expensive. They're not technologies that take a huge amount of time. But they are hacks and tricks and so forth. And I think we're going to start to see, especially as AI starts to play into this.

• 2:45Speaker 00

  I agree with that.

• 2:45Peter Diamandis?

  This coming decade. You know, I'm imagining that when I come back to Gary Brecka's home. In the next few years, I'm going to be, you're going to be sitting there talking to Jarvis and Jarvis is Jarvis is going to be picking up all of your, you know, all of your sensors on your body and saying, Gary, hop in the hydrogen bath. I need some cryo. I need this. It's going to be, I mean, you can turn on your AI biohacker support system.

• 3:10Speaker 00

  Right, right. Yeah, I believe in that too. Yeah, I think everybody's excited about my biohacking habit, except my wife. Cause I, every single room in the house has got something in it, you know. Um, I mean, I guess there are other things, better things you could, or worse things you could be addicted to, right?

• 3:24Peter Diamandis?

  When I showed up there.

• 3:24Speaker 00

  I don't collect cars or anything like that.

• 3:26Peter Diamandis?

  She was in the jacuzzi, uh, right, right there. Anyway, at the time.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, she was in the cold plunge.

• 3:32Peter Diamandis?

  She was in the cold plunge, that's right.

• 3:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:33Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 3:33Speaker 00

  And, um, uh, but I think when I finally put the ho cat machine, when I put the transdermal ozone machine in our master bedroom, she was like, okay, I've, I've, I've had enough of your biohacking habit. But it's amazing, you know, I mean, it's, I'm just, I have a childlike fascination with human performance and cellular biology and, and all of the technology, this bridge between artificial intelligence, technology and, and human optimization. And, you know, there's some really fascinating technologies out there. Not, not all of them are very expensive either that have significant impacts on our cellular biology.

• 4:09Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, we're going to, we're going to talk about that. And I, I think this is what I call the golden age of health span. This is the age of the whole health span revolution. Uh, and I want people to understand what's possible today. And, and I think, you know, actually it's funny because you and Tony Robbins have been in both of your homes. Tony's a dear friend and a partner and you've been there as well. And you've got the best toys on the planet.

• 4:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. But we just collected, you know, the right toys, you know, some people collect cars. You know, we collect biohacking devices.

• 4:43Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, well, we'll get, we'll chat about that now. Uh, what do we got here? And mine is colored red and yours is colored.

• 4:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, yours just needs to be charged.

• 4:51Peter Diamandis?

  I just thought maybe this is. This is a reflection of my inner, you know.

• 4:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it didn't turn red when you grabbed it. This is hydrogen gas. I mean, probably of, of all, of all the biohacks, um, you know, under thirty dollars a month, let's say. I'm probably most excited about hydrogen gas and hydrogen water. You know, this, this, this bottle will run you about two hundred and fifty dollars, but you can get tablets, these elemental magnesium tablets and drop them in, in a bottle of water and create high part per million hydrogen gas. But I think it's the most overlooked, uh, modality in all of biohacking today.

• 5:31Peter Diamandis?

  So let's dive in there because, you know, listen, I'm a scientist, I'm a physician, I'm a biohacker. And understanding fundamentally what's driving hydrogen's benefit. I'd love to understand it.

• 5:45Speaker 00

  Well, there's, there, there are lots of, of, of studies and I'll send them to you so you can link them in the show notes, uh, on, on hydrogen gas and its capacity to lower inflammation, improve circulation. To improve markers of methylation. There's a really interesting study that I, I, I thought it's probably worth mentioning in, in, in the Journal of Experimental Gerontology. It was published in November of twenty twenty one. And what was interesting about this study, and we could talk about a lot of the other clinical evidence for hydrogen gas, um, which is a very prevalent gas in the human body. It's harmless to human beings. It is an antioxidant, right? It actually donates electrons.

• 6:23Speaker 00

  But, uh, historically and, and evolutionarily, we have reduced the amount of hydrogen gas that is in our diets, that is in our gut microbiome, that is in our water. Most of our water is very still now. If you scooped water out of a running stream, you'd find high part per million hydrogen versus bottled water, which is going to be, uh, more stagnant. You know, most of the time it's been sitting for. About two years. It's a really interesting thing you could do it even at home. You can order off of Amazon for a couple of bucks. You can order something called an ORP meter, oxidative reduction potential. You just go on Amazon, they're between 12 and 15 bucks. And this is a millivoltage meter that will actually measure the capacity of a fluid like water

• 7:06Speaker 00

  to either slightly cause oxidation or to reduce oxidation to actually and you want this number to be negative. The more negative the number, the more it has the capacity to reduce inflammation. And what you'll find is if you poured standard bottled water into here, it would have a positive ORP, meaning it's not reducing inflammation, it's actually causing some oxidation

• 7:28Speaker 00

  of about 150 to 200. The second you hit that button and add hydrogen gas, or you drop an elemental magnesium tablet in that glass of water and it effervesces into hydrogen gas, you'll see the ORP drop to negative 400, negative 500. And this, this study in the Journal of Experimental Gerontology back in 2021, actually looked at a six-month placebo-controlled randomized group of

• 7:53Peter Diamandis?

  Is this about the acidification of your body?

• 7:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's about the acidification of your body, exactly. Because we know that we can't change the pH of the body by drinking alkaline water. We can change the pH of the body by adding hydrogen gas, microbubbles of hydrogen gas to, to, to your water. Because pH stands for the potential of hydrogen. They'd say it's a charge. If you want to change the charge in the body, change the charge with hydrogen, or you can do it by touching the surface of the earth or laying on a PEMF mat and using a low gauss current. But what's really fascinating is most studies will look at healthy populations when they want to study recovery or traumatic brain injuries or post-surgical recovery. This particular study looked at 70-year-old men and women over a six-month period of time with

• 8:37Speaker 00

  some were just drinking regular water, the others were drinking high part-per-million hydrogen water. And, and I really encourage your readers to, your, your, your viewers to, to look this study up. Incredible. And they, they actually used well-known markers of methylation, one called TET2, TET, methylcytosine, de-oxygenase to actually Measure the impact on on methylation, so cellular methylation, which is a marker of cellular metabolism, how well your cells are actually taking nutrients and converting them into the usable form. They measured choline levels in in the left frontal lobe of the brain. They measured creatine levels in the right parietal area of the brain. They measured sit-stand ratios, so they found that it was an anti-sarcopenic.

• 9:22Speaker 00

  Measured several markers of inflammation, C-reactive protein, creatine phosphokinase and and others. And across the board, just simply adding hydrogen gas to the water improved all of these markers, including telomere length.

• 9:35Peter Diamandis?

  Amazing. So let me put some numbers against this. So how much hydrogen gas enriched water will you consume per day?

• 9:44Speaker 00

  So in in the mornings, I'll use it instead of caffeine. So, you know, a single tablet will get you to between nine and 12 parts per million hydrogen. Some people can tolerate more than others. I drink four or five of those a day.

• 9:57Peter Diamandis?

  Four or five tablets?

• 9:58Speaker 00

  Four or five of those tablets throughout the day, or four or five of these bottles throughout the day. It'll mitigate all of the effects of travel. I mean, if you want to do an interesting experiment, when you when you wake up in the morning, take four or five of these elemental magnesium tablets, four or five of them, and drop them in about a half a liter of water, about 750 mls of water, in room temperature, and about 50 seconds, they they will effervesce and those microbubbles will be in the water. And just drink that entire 750 milliliters of water and just feel how switched on you are.

• 10:30Peter Diamandis?

  Really?

• 10:30Speaker 00

  Oh, you are instantly switched on. You can feel the inflammatory cascade dropping. You feel more mentally alert, more clear, more cognizant. I mean, it sounds like I'm just trying to sell hydrogen water, but technically I am. I'm just, I think of all of the biohacks that are out there. You know, you got a red light bed, it costs $119,000. And elemental magnesium H2 tabs will cost you less than a buck a day.

• 10:52Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  And will completely change the trajectory.

• 10:54Peter Diamandis?

  Listen, so, you know, I am, again, an experimentalist and it is, does, do you have a visceral impact? Do you feel different?

• 11:02Speaker 00

  No question that you will feel different. I mean, the the markers for Sleep improved in the majority of these people. You found better deep and REM sleep. And you know, as we know, deep sleep is where we're detoxifying our glenfattic system's active. REM sleep is where we're assembling memories and putting the cognitive actions of the day together with our subconscious and our learning.

• 11:22Peter Diamandis?

  Talk to me a second about about carbonated water. How do you feel about that?

• 11:28Speaker 00

  So CO2, I think, has the opposite effect. I I I haven't seen any studies on carbonated beverages having an impact on inflammation, cognitive function.

• 11:41Peter Diamandis?

  Are you are you warning people against using carbonated water?

• 11:44Speaker 00

  I think if you're going to drink water, you should drink still water with with hydrogen.

• 11:48Peter Diamandis?

  Okay.

• 11:48Speaker 00

  Um, I think there's there's the two shouldn't even be in the same zip code.

• 11:52Peter Diamandis?

  So I have not been and I will go and run this experiment for myself.

• 11:56Speaker 00

  I'll I'll link the studies and, you know, I even have a hydrogen bath at the house.

• 12:00Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I saw that when we kicked the door. And in fact, and in fact, the way you described it was such that, okay, if I have 20 minutes extra, I'm jumping in the bath.

• 12:08Speaker 00

  No, no question.

• 12:09Peter Diamandis?

  So what's your so this is so we'll show an image of this in a little bit. But this is a this is a normal bathtub where the external hydrogen generator that's bubbling hydrogen into the water. And you're not consuming it. You're just bathing it.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  It's going right transdermal. So you it's it's it's a hydrogen gas generator. You essentially fill it up with distilled water.

• 12:31Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 12:31Speaker 00

  And what it will do is it'll take distilled water, it'll break it apart, it'll throw the oxygen into the air and it'll put the hydrogen gas.

• 12:36Peter Diamandis?

  So I've got this up on the screen here. That's the generator.

• 12:41Speaker 00

  That that that is an absolute game changer. I think if I only had a single biohacking device, it would be a toss up between that and a red light therapy bed. And a good red light bed's going to cost you over 100 grand. That'll cost you seven grand.

• 12:57Peter Diamandis?

  So a hydrogen bath is is seven grand?

• 12:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. And there are places where you can go and do this.

• 13:02Peter Diamandis?

  So what's the, okay, I'm still trying to understand as a physician and a scientist, how this is impacting me.

• 13:10Speaker 00

  Well, when you say something is an antioxidant, what does that mean? What does it mean when blueberries are antioxidants? It means that they're donating ions. It means that they're reducing inflammation. So, and very specifically, if you can get hydrogen gas to go transdermal, which you can, you're affecting microvascular circulation. If you look at the, our circulatory system, and a lot of people don't realize that, you know, 70% of our circulation is not actually done by our heart. And nobody has a heart that's strong enough to pump blood from the center of your chest to the tip of your toes, through all the capillaries in your brain, your liver, your lung, your pancreas, your kidneys. The heart's circulating about 30 to 32% of the blood in our circulatory system. And the rest of it is done by an activity called vasomotion or vasomotor. It's almost, think of a snake swallowing a mouse, right?

• 13:54Speaker 00

  So it pumps the blood to the entrance of these very small capillaries, and then there's a wave-like peristaltic motion.

• 14:00Peter Diamandis?

  And you've got these valves in your venous system that only flow the blood in one direction?

• 14:04Speaker 00

  Only flow the blood in one direction. And this vasomotor activity, again, like a snake swallowing a mouse, and the mouse never goes back the other way, similar to how our intestinal tract works. There's no pressure behind the intestinal tract. There's a peristaltic motion to the intestinal tract. And this is the first part of our circulatory system to be compromised. If you think of 70% of our circulation is microvascular, and it needs a vasomotor or vasomotion activity in order to function, you could improve 70% of your circulation if you were able to affect vasomotor activity, which transdermal hydrogen will, oral hydrogen will do the same thing.

• 14:41Peter Diamandis?

  So I want to put some numbers on this again. So you said, okay, run the experiment, have three quarters of a liter of water, put in four or five of the tabs, down it, see how you feel.

• 14:49Speaker 00

  Instead of coffee. Next time you have a hangover, take four or five, I don't drink, but if you drink and you get a hangover, or you just have a headache, you have a migraine, you have a headache, you feel brain fog and you need to be awake, take four or five of those H2 tabs, drop them in water. You can get them at Drink H2 Tabs. Dot com. Like I said, it's less than a buck a day. One of the reasons why I'm so fascinated by it. And drop those in there and just drink that 750 milliliters of water and you're, I promise you the worst of all headaches or worst of all hangovers will be gone in 10 or 12.

• 15:25Peter Diamandis?

  Amazing. So having done that, what do you do during the day? Do you continue this level of consumption?

• 15:30Speaker 00

  Just a single tablet and 12 to 16 ounces of water. I drink the Mountain Valley Spring Water. It comes in the bottles. So it's 750 mL is half a liter. You can get the big liters too. Just put a single hydrogen tablet in there and just sip on that throughout, throughout the day. I'll take four or five of those throughout the day. It's, it's absolute game changer.

• 15:50Peter Diamandis?

  Everybody, Peter here. If you're enjoying this episode, please help me get the message of abundance out to the world. We're truly living during the most extraordinary time ever in human history and I want to get this mindset out to everyone. Please subscribe and follow wherever you get your podcasts and turn on notifications so we can let you know when the next episode is being dropped. All right, back to our episode. Let's go back to the bath one second. And again, the technology is, is pretty direct and pretty simple. It's bubbling in. You described to me a few of the athletes that you've treated and it's been a game changer for them. So who comes in? Why are you saying jump in the bath? How long in the bath for? And what's the impact?

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Um, so you're one that's in the public domain recently, John Jones, you know, when he was preparing for his fight. I think he fought on November 16th of the last year was his last heavyweight fight. He was intending to retire initially after that fight. I sat next to him at a UFC fight in the sphere. And he leaned over and he put his hand on my, my leg. He grabbed my leg. I was like, oh God. You do whatever you want, bro.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  And uh, and he literally looks, he looks me in the eye and he goes, you're uh, you're men of God, aren't you? And I said, yeah, yeah, I am. And he said, um, I feel like God put you in my life at this moment. Um, I really need to talk to you and I uh, and he's put this out in the public domain. And um, when I spoke to him, he said, listen, I'm for the last 12 or 15 years, I just wake up every morning in excruciating pain. I mean, he's a division one wrestler. He was, you know, He beat up his body a lot. He beat up his body. He's the greatest heavyweight, maybe, maybe one of the greatest fighters, according to Dana White to ever live. Um, I, I believe that. Um, and he's an absolute gem of a human being. Um, he's an absolute gem of a human being. But um, so I, a few weeks later,

• 17:51Speaker 00

  I flew out to his uh, fight camp. Um, and when he told me about how sore and achy all of his joints were, he was in slow time recovering and it was taking him a long time from waking in the morning till he could start to train. And he was only training five days a week, not six days a week. So he's taking two days off on the weekends. Um, I introduced hydrogen water to him. So you're thinking this is whole body inflammation? This is the whole body inflammation. If you think about where we get inflammation, you know, the majority of this is going to focus in the, in the areas of the least, the most compromised blood flow. So ligaments, tendons, um, bones, cartilaginous surfaces, joints, areas where um, you know, the muscular tendon is insertion, that area where you don't have a lot of blood flow. You know, you don't get a lot of soreness in your um, muscles if

• 18:36Speaker 00

  you're used to training, but you get a lot of joint soreness and you get a lot of tendon, ligament soreness and you get a lot of chronic inflammation in those areas. Well, if you can get hydrogen gas, which you can to go transdermal and reduce in that inflammatory process and improve circulation, which there, I'll also give you the links to some of the um, uh, you know, Grade one, grade two sprain strain injuries that they treat with hydrogen water versus the rice protocol, the rest, ice, compress and elevate. And how hands down transdermal hydrogen was more effective than ice and compression and elevation. But long story short, John texted me a few weeks later and he's like, man, I can't believe that I'm waking up not in pain.

• 19:19Peter Diamandis?

  Pain free.

• 19:20Speaker 00

  I'm adding a sixth day to my training schedule. Of course, he went and dominated his fight, which I take no credit for. And he's announced that he's going to continue fighting. And, and, and, and I gave one to Michael Chandler for his last fight. You know, I've, I've given these hydrogen baths to a ton of people. My parents get in it every single day. Both my, my mother had bilateral knee.

• 19:37Peter Diamandis?

  So this is the equivalent of the cure, sort of bathing in the.

• 19:40Speaker 00

  I mean, it's, it sounds like it's, I'm so high on hydrogen gas. Nobody's talking about it.

• 19:46Peter Diamandis?

  All right. So someone who has a high inflammatory load and you can measure that and the technology is there.

• 19:53Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 19:55Peter Diamandis?

  How often are they and how long are they bathing in this?

• 19:58Speaker 00

  25 minutes once a day. So my wife Sage has an L5S1 fusion. You know, shortly before we met, a little over 10 years ago, she was in a really bad car accident, ended up dislodging her L5S1 disc. It degenerated and she had to have a fusion. So they went in through an anterior approach, took the disc out, put a spacer in, cadaver bone. Ever since then, she's had, you know, low back pain, radiculopathy, you know, all, all of the usual byproducts of L5S1 fusion. If she gets in the hydrogen bath for 25 minutes before she goes to bed, she sleeps entirely through the night, pain free. If she doesn't, you know, often she's waking up, you know, in the middle of the night and

• 20:42Speaker 00

  having to go stretch or walk around or move it and then get back into bed. So I think these modalities where you can replace things like methotrexate and methylprednisone and prednisone and anti-inflammatories and corticosteroids.

• 20:55Peter Diamandis?

  That stuff is poison.

• 20:56Speaker 00

  It's so, it's so poison. I mean, initially it has an inflammatory response, but it will eat the joint like a termite.

• 21:01Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it will solve your problem in the near term and cause you many more in the long term.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  I mean, I think cortisone injections probably ended more careers. In professional sports, earlier than they should have.

• 21:13Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Than maybe any other intervention of therapy.

• 21:17Peter Diamandis?

  I want to, I want to jump into something that is your passion about and is fundamental, which is methylation. Just if you would, take us from there.

• 21:30Speaker 00

  You know, I, I think methylation is.

• 21:33Peter Diamandis?

  So what is methylation?

• 21:34Speaker 00

  So, so methylation, also called one carbon metabolism, is essentially, the best way I can describe it is, it's the process that the human body goes through to take all of the nutrients that enter our body. First, we have to understand that there's not a single compound known to mankind, no vitamin, mineral, amino acid, fluid, protein, carbohydrate, you know, fat, nothing, that we put into the human body that is used in the format that we put it in. Most of us know that we actually don't eat to fuel our cells. We eat to feed our bacteria and our bacteria eat to feed us. Right? So there's an intermediary between our food and our.

• 22:10Peter Diamandis?

  And just to, just to, just to comment on that, right? Because it's so important.

• 22:15Peter Diamandis?

  The bacteria in your microbiome determine how foods are digested, how medicines are digested. You know, if you've got the wrong, you know.

• 22:26Speaker 00

  Methane, how much?

• 22:27Peter Diamandis?

  It's, it, it really is everything. You are a collection of 40 trillion human cells and like 100 trillion bacterial cells. Right? So companies like Viome and others help you understand how these bacteria are metabolizing, what you eat and the drugs, and what it, what works for you.

• 22:46Speaker 00

  A huge fan of Viome and ultimately they are having a positive impact on methylation.

• 22:51Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  That's one of the mechanisms that the outcomes of that test impact. And so if you, you know, for example, we take in folate or folic acid. And this goes through a series of enzymatic reductions and it eventually becomes something called methylfolate or five methylfolate, which is the active form.

• 23:13Peter Diamandis?

  So I'm going to steal one of your hydrogen tablets while we're here.

• 23:16Speaker 00

  You can throw it in.

• 23:17Peter Diamandis?

  Cause my battery is dead on this.

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Oh, it is?

• 23:20Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 23:22Peter Diamandis?

  And by the way, just for folks, you know, a methyl group is a carbon with with three hydrogens, right? And just to connect it back to our space cadets, when when people are talking about when Starship is going to land on Mars, it's being fueled by liquid oxygen and methane, which is a carbon and four hydrogen. So, you know.

• 23:45Speaker 00

  What's incredible is in in in microbiology or in chemistry, the difference between the molecular impact of a compound by simply attaching or detaching a methyl group is night and day.

• 24:02Peter Diamandis?

  It's everything.

• 24:03Speaker 00

  So neurotransmitters are activated and deactivated. You know, we down regulate neurotransmitters. For example, catecholamines, you know, fight or flight neurotransmitters. There are genetic mutations that don't allow people to metabolize, to break down these neurotransmitters. And let me just back up, and I want to touch on that because it's an important subject. But this process of methylation, or one carbon metabolism, is the process that our body goes to take something from the non usable form and convert it into the usable form. So for example, if you ingest folic acid, folic acid is useless. It does not prevent neural tube defects. It doesn't have any other positive effects in the body. In fact, folic acid is a manmade compound. You can't find it anywhere on the surface of the earth.

• 24:47Speaker 00

  It does not exist naturally in nature. Folate does, but folic acid doesn't. Regardless, folic acid and folate follow the same enzymatic pathway until they reach one of the primary genes of methylation called the MTHFR gene mutation. The infamous motherfucker gene.

• 25:05Peter Diamandis?

  Yes. We can, we can. And understanding your genome and understanding what your MTHFR.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  Forty four percent of your listeners have that gene mutation.

• 25:14Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, it's a problem.

• 25:15Speaker 00

  It is, it is a huge problem. And and and the consequences of this.

• 25:20Peter Diamandis?

  Meaning you're not properly methylating in your body.

• 25:22Speaker 00

  You're not properly methylating. So this is one of the main genes of methylation. So our methylation genes will say, okay, we pull crude oil out of the ground, right? But you can't put crude oil into your gas tank. And the reason why you can is because the car doesn't understand the fuel source. If you can refine crude oil into gasoline, now the car can accept that as a fuel source. The human body is no different. Our cellular biology does not use folic acid, doesn't use folate. It uses the form of folic acid and folate that it is methylated into through the process of methylation. Which is why I, you know, if you look at this gene mutation, the MTHFR gene mutation, which is probably the most common gene mutation in the world. And it's estimated between 44 and 62% of the population has this.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  It doesn't sound like a big deal to not be able to convert folic acid into methylfolate until you realize that folic acid is the most prevalent nutrient in human diet. Right? In the United States, all of our grains, all white flour, bread, pasta, cereals, grains of any kind are sprayed with folic acid. We call it fortified or enriched.

• 26:23Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 26:24Speaker 00

  So fortified or enriched foods are sprayed with chemical folic acid. So what happens if you put fortified or enriched foods into the body of somebody who can't process it? Well, now they go nuts. So if you look at history of postpartum depression, which for the record can begin during pregnancy. Most of the women that get postpartum depression have the MTHFR gene mutation. They're told by their doctor to take high doses of folic acid, 1500, 1800% of the daily allowance.

• 26:54Peter Diamandis?

  To overcome the fact that they're not methylating.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  And yes, and this makes it worse. And now all of a sudden, because I haven't seen any RCTs, randomized clinical trials, linking elevated levels of pregnancy hormones to postpartum depression. But we will still blame pregnancy on postpartum depression. And, and we should be blaming it on the high ingestion of folic acid. Now, if we gave those women methylfolate, if they took a methylated prenatal vitamin, their incidence of postpartum depression would collapse.

• 27:26Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  It's not the, it's not the rise in estrogen, you know, going from in the 400s during their normal menstrual cycle to going into the 4000s like you see when they get pregnant. That's perfectly normal for estrogen to go up by 10 times, by 100 in the interstitial space while the uterine wall. You know, increase the laxity of the pelvic girdle, all those things that need to happen during pregnancy. But then you take 1500 to 1800% of the daily allowance of folic acid because your OB-GYN tells you to do that. And the next thing you know, you're going nuts. Anxiety, anxiousness, depression, racing thoughts. I mean, there's so many people listening to this podcast right now that have that G mutation, or they have a genetic mutation called COMT,

• 28:08Speaker 00

  C-O-M-T, which is another bad one for women. Women that have had hormone testing done, if they've ever had what I think is the gold standard of women's hormone testing, which is called a Dutch test. It's a multi-hour urine test. On that test, you will see this genetic mutation, COMT, catecholomethyltransferase. And the reason why this particular gene of methylation is important is because it determines a number of things. It determines how rapidly or how slowly you break down catecholamines. And why that's important is that a rise in catecholamines is anxiety. There are so many people that are suffering from anxiety.

• 28:51Peter Diamandis?

  And you hold on to it.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  And the point is that no one's told them what it is. If you ask 15 practitioners, what is anxiety? They will describe the characteristics of that condition. It's a fear of the future. It's a sense of impending doom. It's a sense of fear without the presence of a fear. Well, that's all of the things I'm feeling. What's causing it? And the majority of people that have anxiety cannot tell you. It's not like every time I step on a crowded elevator and I'm claustrophobic, I have a panic attack. Or every time I walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony and I'm afraid of heights, I have a panic attack. These are people whose anxiety comes and goes seemingly without a trigger. I promise you, you should

• 29:35Speaker 00

  be investigating that gene, C-O-M-T, because you may be a slow to break down, to downregulate these catecholamines, these fight or flight neurotransmitters. And as they rise, they do three things. Number one, they create a waken state. And so someone could be sitting, having a podcast, just like you and I are right now, in a very safe room with our friends right outside the door, and just all of a sudden. Be kind of overwhelmed with anxiety.

• 30:01Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 30:01Speaker 00

  Um, and now what they're going to try to do is relate it to their outside environment. And maybe I'm afraid.

• 30:05Peter Diamandis?

  They're going to try to rationalize it. You're going to rationalize it, yeah.

• 30:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, and, and they're going to try to rationalize it by looking at a cluster of symptoms outside of their body. The truth is, if they understood that it's a rise in catecholamines, they could start to take methylated vitamins, the complex of B vitamins, methylcobalamin, methylfolate, sometimes CME, acetaminophen, methionine, over the counter vitamins, um, and, and, and nutrients that would then allow them to begin to methylate these neurotransmitters.

• 30:35Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  And down regulate them and, and calm that down.

• 30:38Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, what I get so excited about is, um, this knowledge, you says, you know, this is William Gibson who said, you know, the future is here, it's just not evenly distributed. And I, I think, I, I think that, you know, uh, all of this knowledge and, and, and cheers to.

• 30:53Speaker 00

  Cheers.

• 30:53Peter Diamandis?

  Hydrogen water, take a sip.

• 30:55Speaker 00

  Yours is higher part per million than mine now.

• 30:57Peter Diamandis?

  I'll enjoy it. But I think what's fascinating is going to be, we're on the brink of a moment in time when all of this knowledge is, uh, knowable by anybody. Uh, not because they happen to listen to this podcast, or they've happened to listen to, you know, the ultimate human work and, uh, media platform that you've built, or your books, or my books. It's because they've turned on, uh, their AI health, uh, system.

• 31:24Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 31:25Peter Diamandis?

  And that, that system, I mean, when you're born, you have 3.2 billion letters that guide your life for the, it's your software for the rest of your life unless you do a CRISPR therapy.

• 31:35Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 31:35Peter Diamandis?

  Um, or, or gene therapy, it's there. And so, um, that plus the, you know, I don't know, hundreds of subdermal and, uh, wearables that are being developed.

• 31:46Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 31:46Peter Diamandis?

  Will be able to know at any one moment in time, what is your physiological state? And, um, how to optimize it.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 31:54Peter Diamandis?

  And so, you know, I, I've been having this argument recently, let me take my sip of, uh, hydrogen water here.

• 31:59Speaker 00

  Uh, uh, by the way, I happen to agree with you. I think the greatest intersection for humanity is the intersection of artificial intelligence, big data, and early detection. Um, and, you, you know, specifically with respect to methylation, I mean, these are 300 billion,

• 32:16Speaker 00

  independent, um, metabolic transactions going on in, at any given moment. And, and, and AI can make sense out of it all.

• 32:24Peter Diamandis?

  And it, when we. You know, meat sacks on our own cannot. Yeah, I've been having this debate with a number of, shall we say, more old school physician and scientists that are in the media right now saying, no, you will not make it to 120. No, we're not going to bend the health curve. And they're absolutely positive. And, and the equivalency for me is the individuals back in the 1890s saying, no, humans will never fly. No, we'll never go to the stars.

• 32:58Speaker 00

  Well, it was the Wright brothers that said mankind will never fly from New York to Paris.

• 33:02Peter Diamandis?

  It's amazing.

• 33:03Speaker 00

  It was the Wright brothers.

• 33:04Peter Diamandis?

  I recently did a podcast with Neil deGrasse Tyson, and we were talking about 30-year increments of human technological progress. And we're talking about the Kitty Hawk flight. And then Wilbur Wright goes, no, you're not making it.

• 33:17Speaker 00

  You'll never make it to Paris.

• 33:18Peter Diamandis?

  And then the other thing that Neil said was, oh, by the way, the, you know, the first real commercial aircraft was the Boeing 707 with conversion. It was the conversion, I think, of the KC-135. And the length of the

• 33:34Speaker 00

  Oh, that's right, the wingspan.

• 33:35Peter Diamandis?

  The wingspan of the 707 was greater than the length of the first Kitty Hawk flight.

• 33:40Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 33:41Peter Diamandis?

  Which is, which is, which is crazy. And, and we are living in a world where, yes, the history, our history does not necessarily project what our future is going to be. And, you know, my, my basic premise, Gary, is we are running, you know, billions of chemical reactions per second in 40 trillion cells in your human body, and we've never been able to understand that. But AI will enable us. And there is fundamentally a reason of why aging takes place. It's not this random thing.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 34:15Peter Diamandis?

  Why, why some people live to 120 and others are dead at 50, there's a reason. And we're going to be able to understand that and begin to impact that.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  Right. And I, and I think what AI is going to do is, is because we all know it's multifactorial. It's not just methylation. It's your detoxification pathways and your transsulfuration pathways and how many

• 34:36Speaker 00

  You know, microtoxins you're ingesting every single day, which we're doing a great job of here in the United States. We actually just dropped to what 66th in the world in life expectancy on December 6th. Um, 66th in the world. We're below some sub-Saharan South African nations. That don't have clean water and sanitation.

• 34:51Peter Diamandis?

  And, and guess what? We're number one in healthcare costs.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, we're number healthcare spending. Yeah.

• 34:56Peter Diamandis?

  Spending, yes.

• 34:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, healthcare spending and, and we only really lead the world in seven things. And it's morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, multiple chronic disease and a single biome.

• 35:04Peter Diamandis?

  Proud to be American.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  Infin mortality, maternal mortality and, uh, and, uh, what is it? Type, uh, yeah, type 2 diabetes, if I didn't mention that one. But you know, it's, it's astounding how much we spend and the outcomes that we're getting. But I do agree with you that, you know, aging is multifactorial. Methylation is absolutely a process, a part of it. You know, whenever I speak to crowds of, of people or on stages, I'll, I'll put up this horrifically confusing chart of methylation. And it's like, you know, it, it literally looks like somebody took, you know, colored spaghetti and threw it against the wall. And it, and it shows all of these intricate cellular processes. And, and the only reason why I show that chart is I tell people to look at it for a minute and I say,

• 35:46Speaker 00

  "Look at this chart and this is what's going on inside of your cellular biology 300 billion times every day." Um, every time we turn, we turn over roughly 300 billion cells a day. And this is happening 300 billion times a day. Now, look at this chart and try to find a chemical, try to find a synthetic, try to find a pharmaceutical. You, you, you won't find any of those things. What you find on that chart are vitamins, minerals, amino acids, nutrients, um, and.

• 36:13Peter Diamandis?

  Lego blocks.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  Yes. And so when you start to deplete certain vitamins, minerals and amino acids, when you start to pluck them out of that chart, you can see that the system goes haywire. And so many people are suffering from what they think are the consequences of aging. Brain fog, weight gain, water retention, poor response to exercise, poor sleep, poor deep sleep. You know, uh, all kinds of hormonal imbalance. And they think that these are just consequences of aging. They're not. They're consequences of missing raw material. It is astounding what happens to human beings when you just give their body the raw material it needs to do its job. You know, in plant physiology, we believe this, right? If, if, if anyone had a leaf rotting in a palm tree or a, a tree in their yard and a

• 36:59Speaker 00

  true botanist, a true arborist came to their house, they wouldn't even touch the leaf. They would cortes the soil and they would say, you know what, Peter, there's no nitrogen in this soil. And then they would add that nutrient to the soil and the leaf would heal. Human beings are no different. When we deprive the body of certain raw materials, you know, people get diagnosed with mental illnesses because, or mood disorders because they're low on serotonin. But serotonin is methylated from tryptophan, which is a simple amino acid. And in order to methylate tryptophan, the amino acid into serotonin, which happens in the gut, about 90% of our serotonin in our bodies is in our gut. And if you don't have it here, you can't have it here. It travels up the vagus nerve. But what, what happens in the gut is deficiencies in amino acids and deficiencies in the complex

• 37:44Speaker 00

  of B vitamins that cause this methylation process to occur, to convert tryptophan into serotonin or to convert phenylalanine into tyrosine into dopamine. And once you have deficiencies in these neurotransmitters, now you can't assemble moods and emotional states that require these neurotransmitters. So you get told that you have a mood disorder or you have a mental illness. And now you're down the bandwagon of chemicals or synthetics to reduce certain synaptic uptakes of neurotransmitters when really you have deficiencies that are born out of a lack of nutrients. That's why I'm so fascinated by methylation.

• 38:20Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. And of course, methylation of our DNA is also how we control what genes are on and what genes are off.

• 38:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's also how we know that genes are not necessarily our destiny. They might be our predisposition. I love this.

• 38:33Peter Diamandis?

  You know, let's, let's turn to some of the fun toys in your bedroom and your, your incredible penthouse apartment. So this is a, a red light bed and there are a multitude of them. And like you said, this typically will run you 100K or so. Talk about this.

• 38:53Speaker 00

  Um, so I'm a huge, huge fan of red light therapy. Um, let me also tell your listeners, you don't need to run out and spend a hundred grand on a red light bed. You know, you can Google around.

• 39:03Peter Diamandis?

  There are red light panels.

• 39:05Speaker 00

  There are red light panels. Uh, uh, there are smaller red light beds. Uh, there, there, there are other ways to get red light. You can usually find a clinic in your area that will allow you to use these things on a membership basis, or um, at, at the very least, you can expose your skin to sunlight. Um, because we are very photovoltaic beings.

• 39:23Peter Diamandis?

  You and I were just, we're sitting here in Southern California and we were both outside, like just, you know, soaking in the sun.

• 39:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, we just did it just now. Yeah.

• 39:31Peter Diamandis?

  Exactly.

• 39:32Speaker 00

  Um, and so I always.

• 39:33Peter Diamandis?

  So what do you think, what do you normally, when someone says, hey, why, how often you hanging out in a red light bed? Uh, how long and what does it do for you?

• 39:42Speaker 00

  Ten minutes a day, every day, um, seven days a week if I, if I can, uh, you know, I have it in, uh, a separate room in the house and I have this sort of pattern that I go through. I wake up in the morning, brush my teeth, splash water on my face.

• 39:55Peter Diamandis?

  What time do you wake up?

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Um, between six and six thirty latest. Uh, usually trying to be up with, you know, first light.

• 40:01Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Uh, so I'm really intentional about trying to, trying to get first light. In fact, we're, we're out in LA now and we rented an Airbnb. I actually found a ladder behind the Airbnb. So I put it up over the, on the, there are three roofs on this house and I put it up on the low roof and I climbed up on that and then got on the second one. They got on the third one. And I did my breath work up there on the, on, on the rooftop in the morning because it's nice and cool here. It's like in the high forties.

• 40:24Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 40:25Speaker 00

  So I just took my shirt off and, and, uh, did some breath work up there, but, um, uh, but exposing your skin to, to sunlight is, is, I don't want to say the poor man's red light, but it is the best way to get my light therapy. But, but red light does a number of things. Um, there are, there are a number of therapeutic wavelengths. First of all, uh, light can be very damaging or can be very therapeutic in the body. If you look at the light spectrum, you know, starting with something like X-ray, which is light, these are very damaging. Um, moving to UVA, UVB, which are the damaging rays from the sun that, that, that cause, uh, skin cancer. And then there's a very narrow spectrum of light, very, very narrow spectrum of light, which is the visible. Light spectrum, the reds, the orange, yellow, green, what is it, blue, indigo and violet.

• 41:08Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 41:08Speaker 00

  And they get it.

• 41:09Peter Diamandis?

  Roy G. Biv.

• 41:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, Roy G. Biv. I remember that still from, from, from biology. That's what I was playing in my head.

• 41:14Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  Roy G. Biv. And then after that, you can to infrared and near infrared and, and what happens in these wavelengths from red to infrared and, and this near infrared is that when these wavelengths of light pass through the body, one of the most powerful things that red light does is it goes into your mitochondria and it kicks out a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide. And so it kicks out nitric oxide and it forces oxygen to dock. So there is a part of the Kreb cycle inside of the mitochondria where oxygen docks called cytochrome c oxidase. And you want to think of cytochrome c oxidase as a one-armed man. He can either shake hands with nitric oxide or he can shake hands with oxygen, but he can't do both.

• 41:59Speaker 00

  If you can get cytochrome c oxidase to bind to oxygen, you can upstage the mitochondria. You can improve its production of denosine triphosphate at the ATP. You know, we know that aerobic respiration yields 36 ATP. We know that anaerobic respiration yields 2 ATP. So an ATP is what really powers human beings.

• 42:18Peter Diamandis?

  Take me back to seventh grade.

• 42:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:21Peter Diamandis?

  And to medical school.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  It's all about the mitochondria. So not to get overcomplicated, but what red light will do is it will kick out this gas and force oxygen to dock. So that is already a battery charger for your cellular biology. It literally charges you up like a battery. We also know that certain wavelengths of red light are, these are mostly the visible spectrum of lights because they're very superficial are excellent for collagen, for elastin, for fibrin. It also, back to the vasomotor circulation and vasomotion, it has a positive impact on both vasomotor and vasomotion. And there are numerous clinical studies in, in the public literature on PubMed and I'll, I'll have my team link them here

• 43:06Speaker 00

  on the improvement of eyesight because it improves microvascular circulation to, to, to the back of the eye. There are several cataract studies involving.

• 43:15Peter Diamandis?

  So when you're, when you're in a red bed, in a red light bed, do you need to shield your eyes or are you okay?

• 43:21Speaker 00

  I leave my eyes open. These red light beds will have all four and sometimes five wavelengths. I use one called. Lumipod Pro, it's got 45,000 light diodes. It has five wavelengths of light. A typical session's 10 minutes, you could do it for 20 minutes. And you're not only improving collagen elastin fibrin in your skin, you're improving microvascular circulation, you're reducing inflammation, you're charging up your mitochondria. I mean, I, I think that and, and the hydrogen nanobath would be my, my two go tos.

• 43:53Peter Diamandis?

  When I'm, so I use a red light panel because I'm also got a red light cap on my head for stimulating circulation and hair growth. I'm, I'm using a red light oral device as well.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  I've seen those, like it looks like a tongue device.

• 44:10Peter Diamandis?

  It, it basically.

• 44:11Speaker 00

  Is that by Neuronic?

• 44:12Peter Diamandis?

  Uh, no.

• 44:13Speaker 00

  Cause Neuronic makes these helmets that actually go transcranial.

• 44:17Peter Diamandis?

  No, this is, uh, this is both red light and blue light. This is impacting, uh, the pathogens in my mouth, right? I've gotten so focused on oral health.

• 44:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:26Peter Diamandis?

  Right? Because people should know your mouth and the bacteria and, and, uh, other pathogens in your mouth are a, a, a capillary away from your brain.

• 44:37Speaker 00

  Yes, and not too many capillaries away from your heart.

• 44:41Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  And what's interesting is some of the, some of the bacteria that create calcification, hydroxyapatite, we find in, um, in cavitations in the mouth, but we all also find them in calcium in the heart. And I think most people think that these, these hard plaques, uh, like our bones are calcium and they're actually not, they're, they're calcium combined with, with phosphorus, which is forming something called hydroxyapatite, very similar to what's, what's in our teeth. And, um, and in order for that to form, you need something like an osteoblast that, that creates bone, or you need a bacteria that can, that can combine calcium and phosphorus to form this hydroxyapatite, which you find in cavitations in your, in your mouth. I'm a huge fan of, of getting, you know, seeing a quality biologic dentist, if you've

• 45:26Speaker 00

  had a root canal.

• 45:27Peter Diamandis?

  For sure.

• 45:28Speaker 00

  And getting that cleaned out.

• 45:29Peter Diamandis?

  Testing your, testing your, uh, oral microbiome to understand, do you have any of the pathogens there that are really.

• 45:36Speaker 00

  I'm actually waiting for a tooth right now, not to be gross, but.

• 45:39Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  See that guy?

• 45:41Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 45:41Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 45:42Peter Diamandis?

  Wait, waiting for it in what respect?

• 45:44Speaker 00

  So.

• 45:45Peter Diamandis?

  Rewraving it?

• 45:45Speaker 00

  No, so I had a root canal here. Um, and I, I went to a biologic dentist named Dr. Jagar Gandhi. Phenomenal biologic dentist. As far as I'm concerned, he's probably the best in the country. I cracked a tooth one day in the back of my mouth on the other side. And, um, I called him and I was, I mean, I hate the dentist.

• 46:04Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. Who, I mean, who loves dentists?

• 46:06Speaker 00

  I hate dentists. Sorry, Dr. Gandhi. Uh, but, um, and I, and I called him and I said, you know, dude, I've got to come up and see you, man. I cracked this tooth in my mouth. And, um, he goes, take a picture of it. And so I snap a picture of it. And, um, he goes, oh, that's your 19th tooth meridian. He goes, do you ever get, uh, left anterior shoulder pain?

• 46:26Peter Diamandis?

  No shit.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  And I go, swear to God, I did a whole podcast with him. I was so, I was so fascinated by it because I'm pretty like woke to like what's going on. The well was where I watched the everything goes in my mouth. I'm in red light, I'm drinking hydro, I'm doing all this stuff. And, and I go, you know, that's, that's weird. I actually do get left anterior shoulder pain. I thought it was like a bicep tendonitis or something. It wasn't like enough for me to go to the urgent care or something. And then he said, do you ever get left lower lobe lung pain? I, he was that specific. I go, dude, you are freaking me out. Whenever I do HIIT's cardio, I have a catch right here in my rib. I just thought it was like a runner's.

• 47:05Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, sure.

• 47:05Speaker 00

  Or something.

• 47:06Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  And, um, um, and then he was super freaked me out because he said, does your left toe ever go numb?

• 47:12Peter Diamandis?

  No, come on.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  I, I, right hand to God. He, and it didn't go numb, but it would, it would tingle and itch. And my wife used to tease me because I would take my shoe off and I would itch my big toe. And then I would put my shoe back on or I'd be talking to somebody and I would just tap it.

• 47:26Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 47:26Speaker 00

  And because it would feel like it was going numb. And he goes, yeah, that's your 19th tooth meridian. And he sent me this chart and it mapped to the meridian. And he's like, yeah, you, you, you had a root canal in that tooth. And I was like, I did actually. Um, and he said, come up, we'll do this cone beam x-ray. We'll, we'll, we'll check for cavitation. So I went up and they did this 360 x-ray. He actually found several of them. Um, but two of those were. In root canals.

• 47:50Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  And I posted this on my Instagram because I was so fascinated by what he was able to predict by this meridian. And then when he took my tooth out, there was this little balloon on the bottom of the tooth. This is getting gross. So if you're squeamish.

• 48:03Peter Diamandis?

  Caution for the viewers.

• 48:04Speaker 00

  Caution for the viewers. He took a, I go, what is that? He goes, oh, that's a cavitation. That's a pus-filled sac with bacteria and parasites. I said, no way. I have no pain. I have no symptoms. I have no inflammation. I have no gum bleeding and nothing. So he pops it, puts it on a slide and we dark field it in his office. And I posted this video. You could see my macrophages going after the parasites and going after the bacteria. I mean, I was horrified by it. And so he cleaned it all out, ran red light in there, put platelet-rich fiber in.

• 48:35Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, let's just stop right here and tell people you're, the health of your mouth is so critically important, right? So you're 50, what now?

• 48:44Speaker 00

  54.

• 48:45Peter Diamandis?

  54, I'm 63. And I wish I had started paying attention even earlier in my life.

• 48:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:51Peter Diamandis?

  It is, people ignore it. They go to the dentist because they have to. When they have it, you know, that's fine, but there is so much more that you could be doing in terms of, of, you know, using an electric toothbrush. I have actually have a device. Flossing. I actually have a device. I'm, it's called Proclaim. I don't know if you know this, you go in, your mouth gets scanned and it's a mouthpiece that has a jet in between every single tooth. And so it is like high energy, high speed water pick flossing in 30 seconds. You put this in your mouth.

• 49:27Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 49:28Peter Diamandis?

  You put this in your mouth. You put this in your mouth, you know, you bite down like you would a mouth guard. And like this whole container of water just gets pumped in through all of those. And your mouth is cleansed. So, I mean, it's amazing, right? And then there's another product, they changed their name recently, which is a toothbrush with a very similar structure. But it's with all of these brushes that you basically chomp down on it and it brushes everything. So, I mean. I remember I knew Jeff Bezos forty five years ago and when he was purely a space cadet before Amazon and then he and I reconnected and I was talking to him about X Prize and

• 50:12Peter Diamandis?

  space and all and one day I said, hey, is there any chance you can come and speak at this event that's like twenty years ago? And he goes, Peter, I'm so short on time, I'm trying to optimize my toothbrush time, my toothbrush time. And I said, okay, I get that. But this is what you're actually doing, you're able to like, you know, take those

• 50:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:32Peter Diamandis?

  fifteen minutes, ten minutes and make them much more efficient.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 50:35Peter Diamandis?

  The technology's there.

• 50:36Speaker 00

  Technology.

• 50:37Peter Diamandis?

  But more importantly, going to a biological dentist to check out the floor and fluid on your mouth.

• 50:42Speaker 00

  Highly recommended. So then this tooth, which I'm waiting on, he also pulled this one, cleaned it out, red light, ozone gas.

• 50:50Peter Diamandis?

  Yes, ozone gas, exactly.

• 50:51Speaker 00

  Which is wild, when they take the tooth out, it doesn't even bleed.

• 50:54Peter Diamandis?

  Huh.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  And that's a bad sign. And so he runs the ozone gas and the red light and increases the perimeter of the hole until you get fresh red blood. And he packs your own platelet-rich fibrin in there, you know, your own platelets. And he puts the, stitches it shut, the bone grows shut, and then he puts the, I believe it's a porcelain implant, I mean, he doesn't use any metal, and now I just gotta go back up and have the tooth put on there. But I think it's one of the best things I ever did, and I just can't believe that that just flew by me. But he also uses red light, not the full red light bed, but he uses those.

• 51:30Peter Diamandis?

  About thirteen years ago, I had my two kids, my two boys, and I remember at that moment in time, I made a decision to double down on my health. Without question, I wanted to see their kids, their grandkids, and really, you know, during this extraordinary time where the space frontier and AI and crypto is all exploding, it was like the most exciting time ever to be alive. And I made a decision to double down on my health. And I've done that in three key areas. The first is going every year for a Foun upload. You know, Foun is one of the most advanced diagnostics and therapeutics companies. I go there, upload myself, digitize myself, about two hundred gigabytes of data that the

• 52:15Peter Diamandis?

  AI system is able to look at, to catch disease at inception, you know, look for any cardiovascular, any cancer, neurodegenerative disease, any metabolic disease.

• 52:26Peter Diamandis?

  These things are all going on all the time and you can prevent them if you can find them at inception. So, super important. So Fountain is one of my keys. I make that available to the CEOs of all my companies, my family members, because health is a new wealth. But beyond that, we are a collection of 40 trillion human cells and about another 100 trillion bacterial cells, fungi, viroid. And we don't understand how that impacts us. And so I use a company and a product called Viome. And Viome has a technology called Metatranscriptomics. It was actually developed in New Mexico, the same place where

• 53:09Peter Diamandis?

  the nuclear bomb was developed, as a biodefense weapon. And their technology is able to help you understand what's going on in your body, to understand which bacteria are producing which proteins, and as a consequence of that, what foods are your superfoods that are best for you to eat? Or what food should you avoid? What's going on in your oral microbiome? So I use their testing to understand my foods, understand my medicines, understand my supplements. And Viome really helps me understand, from a biological and data standpoint, what's best for me. And then finally, feeling good, being intelligent, moving well is critical,

• 53:52Peter Diamandis?

  but looking good. When you look yourself in the mirror, saying, "I feel great about life," is so important. And so, a product I use every day, twice a day, is called One Skin, developed by four incredible PhD women that found this 10 amino acid peptide that's able to zap senile cells in your skin, and really help you stay youthful in your look and appearance. So, for me, these are three technologies I love and I use all the time. I'll have my team link to those in the show notes down below. Please check them out. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that. Now, back to the episode.

• 54:31Peter Diamandis?

  Let's jump into saunas. You know, I just bought a portable infrared sauna, which is, you know, the size of a chair that I can hop into.

• 54:43Speaker 00

  You just kind of zip it up?

• 54:43Peter Diamandis?

  You zip it up. But I mean, this is a full-on sauna. Talk to me about your sauna practices.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  So sauna is one of the best ways to activate your detoxification pathways. You know, if you talk to any functional medicine practitioner where they're trying to detox somebody from anything, mold, mycotoxins, pathogens, you know, bacteria, metals, they will tell you that sauna and sweating, both infrared and near-infrared, I mean, sorry, both infrared and dry sauna is, has to be a part of your, your regular routine. So I'll usually put a liter of fluid through myself after I get out of the sauna. I have a dry sauna. I, I actually have my parents who've been staying with me for several weeks.

• 55:30Peter Diamandis?

  I met them.

• 55:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, you did. That's right. They were there when you were there. They're still staying with me. So Captain John Brecka and Judy Brecka. Mom has bilateral knee replacements. Dad had a very bad boating accident years ago, which left him with hemiparalysis on one side of his body. So both of them are rather deconditioned from a physical standpoint. And so I was following Dr. Otto Warburg's work in multi-step oxygen therapy, or E-WAT, exercise with oxygen therapy. And since it's difficult for them to get their heart rate up, I'll put both of them in the sauna and I'll run a nasal cannulas under the door and, and they'll just breathe high PPM oxygen for about 20 minutes. And the difference in their cognitive function, even, even immediately after getting out of the sauna,

• 56:14Speaker 00

  they would both tell you is, is night and day. My mom's a chatterbox and so is my dad. You just feel clear and clean, cognizant, awake. So my wife and I do sauna regularly and, and now-

• 56:25Peter Diamandis?

  How long, how many days a week?

• 56:28Speaker 00

  20 minutes, minimum three times a week. It's just something we really like to do. It's right next to our bathroom. And so she and I will very often end the day in there together. And, and they'll get out of the sauna and I'll do just a 20 or 30 second cold plunge. Not a long cold plunge, but a 20 or 30 second cold plunge and I'll dry off. And you know, that's proved to be quite a little sleep hack for me. I mean, people could do it with a contrast shower too, hot shower followed by cold shower. Especially if you're one of those people that ruminates. If, if, if, if your environment quiets and your mind wakes up and you have ruminating thoughts, or you just replay the day, or you go through your grocery list and all of that. But sauna is excellent for detoxification.

• 57:10Peter Diamandis?

  Steam room?

• 57:12Speaker 00

  So, steam room is-

• 57:13Peter Diamandis?

  If you had to choose between sauna and steam room?

• 57:15Speaker 00

  If I had to choose between sauna and steamer, I would probably choose sauna, and here's why. I think most commercial steam rooms are not filtering the municipal water when they bring it into the steam room. So you're vaporizing chlorine gas, fluoride gas, microplastics, pharmaceuticals, polyfluoralkyls, these PFAs, which are very, very high in the municipal water supply in Miami. So unless you are certain that they are running that through preferably like a four-stage reverse osmosis filter, or some other type of, of micron filtration, which I do at the house, I don't trust a lot of steam rooms. So my preference is not to breathe vaporized fluoride and chlorine, but, but it can be even more effective at heating the body up than sauna.

• 58:00Speaker 00

  Remember, water is 29 times more thermogenic than air.

• 58:03Peter Diamandis?

  Yes, and what you mean by that is its ability to take away or provide heat.

• 58:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's right. Like you can die in 72 degree water.

• 58:10Peter Diamandis?

  Heat capacity.

• 58:11Speaker 00

  You can't, you can't get hypothermia in 72 degree air, right? Your body can maintain the temperature gradient. So I have both steam and sauna, but I, I, I actually use a reverse osmosis and charcoal filter.

• 58:22Peter Diamandis?

  I saw it, I saw the closet.

• 58:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then I have another step-down filter. I'm like, I'm such a psycho. But, and then that's a cold plunge. That's one of my favorites, you know. Here's the thing about cold plunging, you know, there's no evidence that I've seen that colder is better or longer is better. Three minutes minimum, six minutes maximum, 50 degrees Fahrenheit is plenty. You know, you get a peripheral vasoconstriction, which, you know, drives all the blood into the core, liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, up to the brain. You also get a really interesting activation of brown fat, which is different than, than white fat. It's, it exchanges a, it's our thermostat, you know, essentially exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat. So you mean to tell me that when I get cold, my body is going to use calories and turn it into

• 59:06Speaker 00

  heat? Yes, there is a cost to having your body temperature returned to normal. Let's not forget if you're in 50 degree water, you and you get out and you're in 70 degree air, your body's still going back to 98.6. So how how does your body continue to raise your temperature? There's a cost to that. It's not free and the cost is calories, increased caloric expenditure. And so brown fat turns calories into heat.

• 59:33Peter Diamandis?

  And by the way, one of the things that I think is important is the small hacks of increasing your your caloric expenditure, right? So I'm going to point out those who are joining us on YouTube here, Gary's wearing this beautiful little vest that looks like it's just a normal vest, but it's a it's a 10 pound, 10 pound or 10 kilograms?

• 59:54Speaker 00

  It's 10, 10 pounds.

• 59:55Peter Diamandis?

  10 pound vest.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  10 kilograms, I'd probably notice, but 10 pound vest.

• 59:59Peter Diamandis?

  And I tried it on and it really felt, you know, slightly heavier.

• 1:00:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, it feels kind of snug. If you ever use a weighted blanket, it feels good.

• 1:00:10Peter Diamandis?

  And you said that, you know, your estimate on your particular muscle mass and caloric expenditure that you're thinking, wearing this during the day.

• 1:00:17Speaker 00

  Close to 600 calories if I wear it for 10, 12 hours.

• 1:00:22Peter Diamandis?

  Which, like I said, it's a big Mac.

• 1:00:23Speaker 00

  It's significant. Yeah. I don't say wear a weighted vest and get a Big Mac. But you know, I I'm a big fan of rocking too. And, you know, I've got the, I think it's Rogue, where you put the plates in the front, the plates in the back, but it kind of hangs over your shoulders.

• 1:00:39Peter Diamandis?

  That's a actually a large commitment. This was super easy.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  Super bulky. These guys at Aion, A I O N, I think they pronounce it Ion, they make these weighted vests that that actually zip snug to your body you can use during workouts. Or they make these more decorative ones you can just wear if you're just walking through the airport and.

• 1:01:00Peter Diamandis?

  And it looks very handsome.

• 1:01:01Speaker 00

  I'm traveling, I'm just trying to bio stack things. I'm like, well, I'm going to be walking anyway, I might as well add weight, you know?

• 1:01:06Peter Diamandis?

  And by the way, one of those, the mental hacks here, and I keep on reminding people of this, is. It's like take the stairs instead of the escalator. You know, if you need to park, if you're having a difficulty finding a parking spot, park two blocks or three blocks away. And think of it as free exercise. You're not paying a trainer to give you.

• 1:01:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Peter Diamandis?

  Just those little.

• 1:01:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, my wife and I play that game at the airport. You know, we always try to find the stairs and not the escalator. What what's amazing is they have those moving walkways and they're actually called moving walkways, but people turn them into moving standways.

• 1:01:36Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:37Speaker 00

  And they just get on them and they just sort of ride, you know, and they get off and walk four feet to the other one.

• 1:01:41Peter Diamandis?

  Lazy bastard to all of us.

• 1:01:42Speaker 00

  I actually love a good walk in airport before I get on a plane.

• 1:01:45Peter Diamandis?

  No, absolutely. And so I will not go on the moving walkways.

• 1:01:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:48Peter Diamandis?

  I will, I will actually try and keep up with everybody by walking faster on the side. So cold plunge, you said something interesting a second ago, which is, um, it doesn't have to be that cold. It doesn't have to be that long. So.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  If colder is not better, longer is not better. I mean, I.

• 1:02:04Peter Diamandis?

  So if you're, if you're in the shower, in my typical practice, because I don't have a cold plunge.

• 1:02:09Speaker 00

  I thought you just saw one out there.

• 1:02:10Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, well, I do, but this is, I'm, I'm not always.

• 1:02:13Speaker 00

  Around, yeah.

• 1:02:14Peter Diamandis?

  At, at the, at the studio, but there is, there's a, there's a sauna, a cold plunge. Uh, right there, but I will, you know, take my hot shower and then for the last 60 seconds, take it to as cold as possible.

• 1:02:26Speaker 00

  Absolutely. That's the other thing. I mean, again, you know, all these modalities are great, but, but people can take, um, Tupperware containers. Freeze large blocks of ice in their, in their, in their freezer, throw them in their bathtub. Um, it's good for about three days. If you've got a couple of these big blocks, you know, that your water will stay cold for three days. Uh, you know, and it's a great way to make a cold plunge because, you know, even if you're just buying ice from 7-Eleven, eventually that's, that, that adds up. Uh, so you can, you can freeze.

• 1:02:52Peter Diamandis?

  That's a great hack.

• 1:02:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, that you freeze these and you drop them in, you know, just like I said, you, you, you can access a lot of these modalities, you know, sunlight, grounding, breath work. Um, uh, you know, cold plunge for little or next to nothing. But the other thing that, you know, I was about to mention was the, um, release of something called cold shock proteins.

• 1:03:10Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 1:03:11Speaker 00

  Specialized proteins released from your liver. There's a lot of research now looking at cold shock proteins and a lot of these benefits. And, uh, there's a few in particular, Lynn, 28. A and lin, capital L I N, 28 B, which are implicated in the improvement of insulin resistance. So making you more sensitive to insulin. They scour the body of free radical oxidation. There's some evidence that they improve protein synthesis, you know, the rate of muscle repair. And so just think in three minutes, you get a dopamine spike, a peripheral vasoconstriction, you know, a, an activation of brown fat and a release of chok protein. Three minutes and get out. I mean, and that's why you feel, I call it my drug of choice

• 1:03:56Speaker 00

  because you, you feel so good for so long. And, and you don't have to get into 35 degree water. You don't have to go for 12 minutes. I see people online, you know, going underwater with snorkels in 37 degree weather.

• 1:04:09Peter Diamandis?

  It's a macho move.

• 1:04:10Speaker 00

  I'm like, man, that's just not a good idea. Your brain's only this far inside the surface of your skull.

• 1:04:14Peter Diamandis?

  All right. So I want to talk about hyperbaric oxygen. Because I've seen and heard miraculous results and, and mixed results.

• 1:04:24Speaker 00

  And I'll tell you where that's coming from.

• 1:04:25Peter Diamandis?

  And, and so there's, there's a therapeutic level and a hobbyist level.

• 1:04:31Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:04:32Peter Diamandis?

  So let's talk about.

• 1:04:33Speaker 00

  So this is a hobbyist version. I actually have one of these soft shell chambers.

• 1:04:37Peter Diamandis?

  1.3 atmospheres?

• 1:04:39Speaker 00

  It goes to about 1.3, 1.4. The hobbyist will go around 1.3 atmospheres, which is good. But as I've gone deep down the rabbit hole of hyperbaric, and I'm sold on hyperbaric, I'm actually building my podcast studio inside of a hyperbaric right now.

• 1:04:53Peter Diamandis?

  I love that.

• 1:04:53Speaker 00

  So February, middle of February, I'll have the first ever podcast studio inside of a hyperbaric.

• 1:05:01Peter Diamandis?

  I'm coming back on your show.

• 1:05:02Speaker 00

  You're on the ultimate human. We're gonna be doing in a hyperbaric. But if you look at the majority of the research on, on, on hyperbaric oxygen therapy, it's done at two atmospheres or greater.

• 1:05:12Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  What I found sadly is that.

• 1:05:17Speaker 00

  Most of the soft shell chambers will borrow that research.

• 1:05:21Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  Um, you know, as um outcomes for soft shell chambers. Now I have a soft shell chamber. I'm not shitting on those guys. Um, but you know, it it mimics deep sleep. It can actually be uh not a replacement for, but an adjunct to, you know, poor sleep. My, my wife, all the time she does not get a good night's sleep. She'll wake up and she'll go spend an hour in the hyperbaric, breathe 92 to 95% O2 through a nasal canvas, and then you are switched on. Um, if you've ever done hyperbaric therapy, even at 1.3 atmospheres, you feel amazing after you get out of there and you you've you've been breathing that oxygen. But the compressed gas at at at two atmospheres, um, and I've just started to go way down the rabbit hole in hyperbaric uh oxygen therapy. I have one

• 1:06:05Speaker 00

  of the top experts in the world come into the house to help me design some protocols because my my concern is that I become adaptive, right? Um, and you know, we can adapt to altitude. We could also adapt to hyp- hyperoxemia.

• 1:06:19Peter Diamandis?

  Sure.

• 1:06:19Speaker 00

  And um, I also use hydrogen uh tablets to offset the oxidative uh, you know, free radicals from um.

• 1:06:28Peter Diamandis?

  Which is, which is one of the questions I was gonna ask because you're driving oxygen, which is an oxidative force.

• 1:06:34Speaker 00

  It is. It is. Yeah, it is an oxidative stressor. And so, but a hydrogen gas offsets that. So I do another one of those hydrogen bombs, you know, four or five of those H2 tabs. Uh, I'll drop those in water. I'll put down 750 milliliters of water and then I get in the hyperbaric. And man, I'm telling you, you feel like you took a limitless pill. You're so cognizant, so clear, so awake, so alert. Um, it it comes very close to mimicking deep sleep. And so if you're sleep deprived, you know, hyperbaric, it's excellent for wound healing. It's excellent for circulation. It's excellent for cognitive function. I put both of my parents in in a hyperbaric chamber. I'm super excited about the podcast studio. This will have, you know, AI cameras.

• 1:07:17Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, I don't know why you don't sleep in there.

• 1:07:19Speaker 00

  Michael Jackson used to sleep in.

• 1:07:21Peter Diamandis?

  Well, he's not doing so well right now.

• 1:07:23Speaker 00

  He's not doing so good.

• 1:07:24Peter Diamandis?

  But interestingly enough, I was in Israel. I met the team that did.

• 1:07:27Speaker 00

  That's where all the good research comes out of.

• 1:07:29Peter Diamandis?

  Right. And.

• 1:07:30Speaker 00

  Good cognitive function work. Yeah.

• 1:07:32Peter Diamandis?

  And and a whole slew of different repairs. Like if you've ever had a if you've had a stroke, if you've had any kind of neurodegenerative disease, it really is stimulating neuronal growth in an amazing fashion. But my concern is their work is premised on a significant amount of time in those hyperbaric chambers. And, you know, I'm stealing. I'm going back to Jeff Bezos's. I'm trying to optimize my tooth brushing time right now.

• 1:08:00Speaker 00

  Well, that's why I built the studio in the hyperbaric because I was like, I don't have 90 minutes.

• 1:08:04Peter Diamandis?

  Not everybody can do that. I don't know that I have an hour. And if I had an extra hour, I don't know that I would spend it like this.

• 1:08:10Speaker 00

  I wouldn't either. Yeah, I wouldn't say, you know, a hyperbaric would would would make my.

• 1:08:17Peter Diamandis?

  Now, if I, if God forbid, I should, you know, have had a stroke or something, then I'm all in. It's like getting.

• 1:08:25Speaker 00

  Hundred percent.

• 1:08:25Peter Diamandis?

  Getting your.

• 1:08:27Speaker 00

  Or if, you know, post surgical recovery, this is also one of my favorites.

• 1:08:31Peter Diamandis?

  So HOCAT, what's a HOCAT stand for?

• 1:08:32Speaker 00

  So that's a hyperthermic oxygen, carbonic acid, transdermal therapy. So it's a mouthful, but basically a HOCAT is transdermal ozone. So ozone can be infused into the bloodstream transdermally. You know, I'm a huge fan of ozone mold, mycotoxins, metals, glyphosate.

• 1:08:57Peter Diamandis?

  I remember during COVID, one of the physicians, one of the many physicians I went to.

• 1:09:02Speaker 00

  Effective therapies.

• 1:09:03Peter Diamandis?

  I had IV, I my you take my blood out, circulate it with with ozone and then put it back in.

• 1:09:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. So so there's multiple ways you could do ozone. You know, you could just take an ozonation, ozinator and and put it the air into a syringe and you can hang an IV bag below the level of the heart, allow the blood to drain into a sterile IV bag, and then add the ozone gas to the IV or to. To the blood, you'll see the blood go from like a Cabernet wine to a bright red. Um, as, as, as red blood cells take up that oxygen. And then you can infuse that back in. Now ozone's O three, so, so there's an oxygen. It's an O two.

• 1:09:43Peter Diamandis?

  It is the ultimate oxidator.

• 1:09:45Speaker 00

  It is the ultimate oxidator. And that third oxygen molecule is one of the most reactive species.

• 1:09:50Peter Diamandis?

  It's like, it's a killing machine.

• 1:09:52Speaker 00

  Missile to free radicals in oxidation. And so, you know, we happen to live in the mold capital of the world, you know, in Miami. And, uh, and so, uh, I don't think I've seen anything as effective for mold toxicity as ozone. And then you can do, uh, what's called ten pass ozone, uh, which is, which is where it's pulled into a, a glass vial. And, and agitated with ozone and put back in and pulled out and put back in. There's a, a very advanced form of ozone called EBO two.

• 1:10:23Peter Diamandis?

  I haven't heard about that.

• 1:10:24Speaker 00

  So EBO two is extra blood corporal ozone.

• 1:10:29Peter Diamandis?

  It sounds, it sounds actually what I, like what I did, uh, during, during COVID.

• 1:10:34Speaker 00

  If it had a filter, that's what it was. So, so essentially the blood comes out, it comes out of one arm, it goes back in the other arm. It comes out, um, it goes through a, uh, filter. And this is a filter that's designed to remove, uh, uh, BPAs, these bisphenols. Will remove mold, spores, mycotoxins, it will also all remove metals, it'll remove microplastics. And, uh, and glyphosate. And as it passes through the filter. It's also ozonated and the ozone gas is added to that and then it's circulated around and comes back in. Sometimes they also pass it, pass it through a light filter, but, um, so EBO two is probably in my opinion, the most advanced.

• 1:11:16Speaker 00

  If you have a mold, mycotoxin, metals, something like that, um, and you can't get down to. To, to you wanted to do like an Xterra blood filter. Then, you know, EBO two is a great choice. That machine, the previous one you were showing will, will. Will actually, so what that does, those doors close, they close around your neck and it will steam you up like a, like a steam room. And then it will release ozone gas into the chamber. First, it releases CO2 gas. CO2 is carbon dioxide is the main vasodilator in the human body. People think it's nitric oxide. It's not nitric oxide. It's actually a caustic gas because it competes for oxygen. I wouldn't take any kind of nitric oxide supplement on purpose, but the reason why we get vascular during

• 1:11:59Peter Diamandis?

  You wouldn't do nitric oxide tablets for increasing

• 1:12:06Peter Diamandis?

  NO2 in your, in your vaso, your vascular system?

• 1:12:10Speaker 00

  No, never, never on purpose. Um, I mean, uh, there's a great book called The Ultimate Guide to Methylene Blue. He goes deep down the rabbit hole of nitric oxide as an oxidative free radical, and then also its implication in all kinds of neuropathic disorders, including Alzheimer's, early onset dementia, cognitive decline, autism,

• 1:12:35Speaker 00

  all learning disabilities, the, the, you know, nitric oxide will compete with cytochrome C oxidase for oxygen. And so anytime we are depriving the, depriving the mitochondria of, of oxygen, that's, it's a bad thing. We, in fact, when, when, when you do red light, you release the nitric oxide, which will go into the vascular wall and, and cause a, we say vasodilation. It's really a vasorelaxation effect on the arterial wall. So you do get some increased circulation, but you also get the benefit of the oxygen. But this will, this has also Rife frequency in it. Um, so you put your feet on Rife frequency plates and you can select different modalities. So you could select, you know, thyroid, immune system, adenoids, what have you.

• 1:13:21Speaker 00

  But it runs carbon dioxide to dilate the blood vessels and dilate your pores. And then it will run transdermal ozone. And that goes right transdermal, right into the bloodstream. And I'm telling you, that will shift you from a sympathetic to a parasympathetic state like nothing you've ever done in your life. You are so

• 1:13:38Peter Diamandis?

  Relaxed.

• 1:13:39Speaker 00

  relaxed and zen getting out of that thing.

• 1:13:41Peter Diamandis?

  It's great. All right, we got the Balancer Pro here.

• 1:13:44Speaker 00

  And those are just, uh, very expensive compression gear, but they work.

• 1:13:49Peter Diamandis?

  Okay, so this is a vascular muscular compression.

• 1:13:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, so this is mainly lymphatic compression. You know, a lot of the compression gear, people think that the more pressure, the better. And that's absolutely not the case with lymphatic circulation. You know, there's, there's no pressure again behind the lymphatic system. It's a static system, so it needs muscular contraction in order for it to flow. So it needs motion and activity. So these Balancer Pros, they'll start at your feet and they'll, and they'll actually, um, very rhythmically and gently, and the pressure will slowly increase. They will, um, push all of the lymphatic fluid up into.

• 1:14:21Peter Diamandis?

  Like toothpaste through.

• 1:14:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, like toothpaste through a tube. Yeah.

• 1:14:26Peter Diamandis?

  All right, PEMF, um, pulsed electromagnetic field therapy, um, people swear by it.

• 1:14:33Speaker 00

  I swear by it. My, I have one of my bed. Um, so PMS, uh, pulse electromagnetic field. So this is one of those modalities where you can use high frequency PMF, which it could actually cause a muscle contraction and, and is really good for muscle spasms. Uh, you know, muscle soreness, uh, recovering from joint injuries. But as a daily modality, um, you want to use something called a low gauss PEMF, um, G A U S, which is a current measurement. And similar to the surface of the earth has a low gauss.

• 1:15:04Peter Diamandis?

  It's a magnetic field.

• 1:15:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, magnetic field, sorry, uh, uh, measure.

• 1:15:08Peter Diamandis?

  And does this go under your, under your sheets of your bed?

• 1:15:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. So you can put it right under the sheets of your bed and pull the sheets over top of it. Um, I have an eight sleep mattress. It'll blast right through that. And what it will do is it'll just run a low gauss current, uh, uh, through the body, through low gauss field, sorry, through the body. And what this low gauss field does, and you can measure this, you could dark field your blood, um, you can, uh, just like you, you can measure the outcome of red light bed. You can actually do nitric oxide strip testing before you get in and before you, and when you get out, and you can prove that your red light bed is working. You know, you get in, before you get in the red light bed, just put a nitric oxide test strip in your mouth, which you can get for like six bucks on Amazon. It'll be like a pale pink.

• 1:15:48Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:49Speaker 00

  And then you'll lay in the bed for 15 or 20 minutes, wait about 10 or 15. Fifteen minutes and do it again and you'll see that your nitric oxide levels.

• 1:15:56Peter Diamandis?

  Nice, I knew that. I had those bedside.

• 1:15:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, but but this will, what this will do is repolarize the surface of your cells. So if you, I think they call it rulo when the, when the red blood cells start to stack and stick together. When, when, when cellular surfaces have similar charges, they repel. When they have opposite charges, they attract. Everywhere that they touch you lose surface area to exchange with the outside environment. So now you're comparing this cell's capacity to eliminate waste or repair or detoxify. Or regenerate. So what, what a pulse electromagnetic field will do is it will restore that surface polarity. And you can see this pre and post PEMF. By the way, you can see it pre and post.

• 1:16:35Speaker 00

  Grounding as well. People think that grounding and earthing is, is like voodoo science. It's not. If you can't, if you don't have the budget for a PEMF mat, take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth.

• 1:16:47Peter Diamandis?

  What does one of these put, sent you back here?

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  So this one will run you about five grand.

• 1:16:53Speaker 00

  But it really works. If you look at the coils, they go from the top to the bottom.

• 1:16:56Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, and so I have a eight sleep mattress and this will, this goes underneath.

• 1:17:02Speaker 00

  It'll go under the eight sleep. Cause the eight sleep, the thing I love about the eight sleep, there's no EMF in that. It's just the coils in the bed. I get markedly better sleep when I use the, the eight sleep too.

• 1:17:14Speaker 00

  And again, like you, I'm just trying to condense time. Like, how can I bio stack these? I can lay down, I can run pulse electromagnetic field, which is mimicking.

• 1:17:21Peter Diamandis?

  This will be on my buy, my buy list after this, for sure.

• 1:17:24Speaker 00

  And, and then the, and then the eight sleep. But these are, these are, these low gauss current mats are, are phenomenal for. For restoring cellular polarity.

• 1:17:37Peter Diamandis?

  Fantastic. I'll just add a few of these. I'm usually, I'm usually wearing a continuous glucose monitor. And it's not.

• 1:17:46Speaker 00

  It drove me crazy when I wore CGM.

• 1:17:48Peter Diamandis?

  It's for no other reason than to gamify what I eat.

• 1:17:52Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:17:53Peter Diamandis?

  That's basically it.

• 1:17:54Speaker 00

  Have you gotten used to seeing what?

• 1:17:56Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, so I my game is and so, you know, I'm not wearing it today. I should have, but um. Uh, the battery ran out two days ago. I've got a stack. I moved out of my house because of the, you know, the fires.

• 1:18:09Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:18:09Peter Diamandis?

  Oh, yeah, no, I was on the edge of the Santa Monica and Pacific Palisades, so the house is now, I've been out of it for three weeks, uh, and we have remediation to get all the the smoke there out. Um, anyway, long story short, so a lot of my stuff is is there, but I wear it simply to see how low I can keep my blood glucose from spiking throughout the day.

• 1:18:34Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:18:34Peter Diamandis?

  I mean, that's basically it, and it's fun to see that and fun to play that game.

• 1:18:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, and do you see what happens if you eat high glycemic carbs?

• 1:18:43Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, and it's like, it's like, I.

• 1:18:44Speaker 00

  Just not worth it.

• 1:18:45Peter Diamandis?

  It's interesting, right? Because I will say, okay, if I eat that, I'm gonna spike it and I'm not gonna be happy about that. So it just creates a hack.

• 1:18:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:52Peter Diamandis?

  It's like, we'll talk about the Oura ring in a second, which I'm wearing, and the only, you know, or an Oura ring is not gonna help you get to sleep uh, better, but it at the in the at night when I'm going to sleep, I know if I so I've pretty much given up most alcohol. I'll have like a sip of red wine, something like that, but if I should ever drink a glass of alcohol, my ORS score will will plummet, or if I go to sleep.

• 1:19:16Speaker 00

  So true.

• 1:19:17Peter Diamandis?

  If I go to sleep late, um.

• 1:19:19Speaker 00

  So true.

• 1:19:20Peter Diamandis?

  So CGM for me, it's super easy, fun, gamify what I eat. Here's the Oura ring. I got uh, last night in preparation for you, I got like, uh, one of my my high scores at ninety five.

• 1:19:32Speaker 00

  You did? Nice.

• 1:19:33Peter Diamandis?

  So one of the things that's um, interesting, that's what I what I get here.

• 1:19:37Speaker 00

  That's great. What time do you go to bed?

• 1:19:40Peter Diamandis?

  I went to bed at eight forty-five PM.

• 1:19:42Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:19:43Peter Diamandis?

  And I tell you, I tell you, that is everything.

• 1:19:47Speaker 00

  It is everything.

• 1:19:48Peter Diamandis?

  It's it's it's how.

• 1:19:50Speaker 00

  Everything that we discussed.

• 1:19:51Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 1:19:51Speaker 00

  Matters little compared to sleep.

• 1:19:53Peter Diamandis?

  And it's like when I go to sleep impacts everything for us today. And, you know, I used to be a night owl where it'd be up till midnight, one or two o'clock. And, you know, my wife and my friends, like, you know, you don't go out and party with us. Well, you know, it's yes, true. But I get up at five and I write.

• 1:20:11Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:20:12Peter Diamandis?

  And so last night I got hour and a half of REM and an hour and fifteen of deep sleep.

• 1:20:19Speaker 00

  You get up and you write or you write, you said?

• 1:20:20Peter Diamandis?

  I write.

• 1:20:21Speaker 00

  Oh, you're right. Yeah.

• 1:20:22Peter Diamandis?

  I write. It's like my first two hours are mine.

• 1:20:24Speaker 00

  Hmm. So good.

• 1:20:26Peter Diamandis?

  But the Oura Ring doesn't give you a good night's sleep. It does gamify the fact that if I eat too late, if I drink too much water too late, have to get up and urinate, if I go to sleep too late, if I it's like I'm gonna have a shitty score in the morning.

• 1:20:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, you know that if you eat too close to bedtime, if you drink at all, you know, any of those things.

• 1:20:49Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. So have you? So I get a sleep score on my eight sleep mattress as well. My eight sleep always gives me hundreds. My Oura Ring is a harder grader.

• 1:20:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, same with same with Whoop. It's usually they're usually within I wear a Whoop. I actually am charging it right now.

• 1:21:03Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:04Speaker 00

  Um, the, I think Oura and Whoop both do the same thing. You can disconnect the Bluetooth at night and then it will upload in the morning, which I like.

• 1:21:13Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:13Speaker 00

  Um, but the, uh, the eight sleep is always slightly better than my Whoop, but usually is not demonstratively. It's like ninety-six, ninety-seven, ninety-six, ninety-eight.

• 1:21:24Peter Diamandis?

  It it I feel like it's a it grades on a higher curve.

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:21:28Peter Diamandis?

  But I was like, was like one of the earliest investors in Oura when it first came out and the Oura Ring used to be this giant like scarab sized thing on your.

• 1:21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're beautiful. That's it right there.

• 1:21:38Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. I mean, this is this is the gen three that's out now. But when you think about the amount of integrated electronics and circuitry in there, right? And battery life, it's it's got four or five days of battery. It's got a multitude of sensors and lasers. Um, and Bluetooth, uh, I mean. It is amazing. It's the beginning of what we're gonna see in the in the wearables.

• 1:22:01Speaker 00

  Well, when this integrates with labs, you know, genetic testing, you know, um, you know, body scans, all of these different modalities when AI is able to pull all of that into one one place. You know, the thing I I'm really a fan of wearables for is, you know, Aura, Whoop. These guys can do studies that I think are more important than individual randomized clinical trials because when you take, you know, six people or eight people and you send them to the University of Miami to do a sleep study and they walk into a sterile room, it's like two clicks shy of a jail cell, you put the monitors all over their body and you tell

• 1:22:42Speaker 00

  them to go to sleep. Versus you get a thousand people or 5,000 or 10,000 people to opt into a study with Whoop or with Aura and you're studying them in their own environment or in their own family, sleeping in their own bed and, you know, in their own habitual pattern. I think you get better data.

• 1:22:57Peter Diamandis?

  You you do. It's it's amazing. And I I've got, you know, eventually there'll be implantables. I've got a, if you feel this right over here, there's a

• 1:23:06Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:23:06Peter Diamandis?

  A little ca- a little glass capsule in there.

• 1:23:10Speaker 00

  Oh, you're next level. What is that? Dude, what is going on there?

• 1:23:13Peter Diamandis?

  That's my business card.

• 1:23:15Speaker 00

  Is it really?

• 1:23:16Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I've been chipped. First, yeah, so I was on stage, I was in stage in in Amsterdam. It's a Singular University event. And the guy was there showing the future of implantables. This is like, God, 12 years ago, really early on.

• 1:23:32Speaker 00

  That's how long that's been?

• 1:23:33Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, it's been in there. And so it's a it's a non-bior reactive glass and inside is a near field reading device, so a N R F. And it's like when you chip a dog, you know, and you can read, that's what this has my business card on it. But eventually, it will be. Measuring everything, not, you know, not on the surface, but subdermally.

• 1:23:58Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:23:58Peter Diamandis?

  And so these are coming, my venture fund, we've invested in a number of these.

• 1:24:02Speaker 00

  Really? Yeah, that's so fascinating.

• 1:24:04Peter Diamandis?

  A tonal, um, you know, uh, I love the device for its ease of use and it's all about consistency.

• 1:24:11Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:24:11Peter Diamandis?

  It's all about consistency. You know, I use an in-body. I mean, I, I love the devices.

• 1:24:16Speaker 00

  To measure your.

• 1:24:17Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. And, and again, it's gamified. So last year I focused on adding 10 pounds of mass, my, um, muscle mass. And it was like consistency in the gym, five days, if I could, six days, creatine, 150 grams of protein, could weigh 150 pounds.

• 1:24:31Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:24:32Peter Diamandis?

  And it was like just measure, measure, measure, measure, measure.

• 1:24:34Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:24:35Peter Diamandis?

  To play that game.

• 1:24:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:37Peter Diamandis?

  And you have to want to play the game.

• 1:24:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you also have to enjoy it and you gotta have the, the, you've gotta have trackable things to track it like this.

• 1:24:44Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. And then I love my sleep, my manta sleep mask. Uh, this is the.

• 1:24:49Speaker 00

  I use one every night.

• 1:24:50Peter Diamandis?

  There are three versions of it. This is the most advanced version with a, with speakers in it. I actually don't use this one. It's a little bit heavier, but, um, I, I, I can't sleep without it.

• 1:25:01Speaker 00

  I can't sleep without a sleep mask either.

• 1:25:03Peter Diamandis?

  I also use a, I don't, I don't have it on the list here, but a mandibular advancement device.

• 1:25:08Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:25:08Peter Diamandis?

  It is a upper and lower, upper, upper and lower, uh, device that moves the jaw forward.

• 1:25:14Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:25:15Peter Diamandis?

  The mandible that opens up the airway, keeps you from grinding my teeth. And the O ring, the manta, the eight sleep, my, those are my, like, my, my sleep kit.

• 1:25:25Speaker 00

  You're like, I am just throwing as many hacks as possible.

• 1:25:27Peter Diamandis?

  But I, I, it's like I travel with this stuff.

• 1:25:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, I do too.

• 1:25:30Peter Diamandis?

  And my slippers. I got my slippers. I'm at home. Uh, and that's, you know, we talked about the eight sleep cooling mattress. And, uh, it's really, uh, for me, maintaining that body temperature, uh, at, you know, I put it, I said.

• 1:25:46Speaker 00

  I'm fascinated by how much of an impact just slight cha-changes in temperature variation have at holding you in. Because I notice I will sleep the same length of time, but my REM and deep scores will not be as much. And when I look back at what the eight sleep is doing, changing its temperature to hold you in deep sleep, to hold you in REM sleep. I, I mean, honestly, how it even knows that is wild to me. Um, but it, you know, my, my whoop will validate that.

• 1:26:15Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:15Speaker 00

  Uh, you know, as well.

• 1:26:17Peter Diamandis?

  And people should know on your sleep, um.

• 1:26:21Peter Diamandis?

  There are two important phases, right? There's your deep sleep, which typically occurs in the first half of your night's sleep cycle. Mm hmm. And your deep sleep is where your glymphatic system is clearing proteins, toxic proteins in your, in your brain. And if you have to choose, you know, deep sleep is, I think, more critically important for our long-term health. REM is where you're consolidating memories and REM will typically occur in the later stage of your sleep cycle. So Right. If you are getting good deep sleep, but you wake up four hours after you start, you might get an hour. You know, I try and get at least an hour of deep sleep and at least an hour of REM sleep is my, is my goal. And it's hard to control that. The only

• 1:27:03Peter Diamandis?

  way I control it is no alcohol, no food for a couple hours before. Yeah. And getting asleep early. And when I do that, I'm typically get into that great cycle. But if I wake up after a shortened sleep, the deep sleep's there, but the REM has been eliminated. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, you know, I'd like to wrap with a conversation on a technology that, um, that we're both passionate about. Mm hmm. Uh, which came out of DARPA, uh, called Xtera. Yes. And their filter. Uh, let's, so I'm going to have Xtera on stage with me at the Abundance Summit, you know, this year for the first time. So every year at the

• 1:27:46Peter Diamandis?

  Abundance Summit, which I hold in March, I've got, um, you know, a day on AI, a day on exponential technologies, a day on moonshots, a day on, on, uh, on longevity. And this is the first year that I'm really going from a focus on diagnostics to a focused on advanced therapeutics. Mm hmm. Tech to enable you to extend, uh, your life and to really, uh, uh, cure, prevent diseases is finally coming online right now.

• 1:28:15Speaker 00

  I'm a huge believer in the Xterra.

• 1:28:17Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:18Speaker 00

  The Xeraf one-hider. So, um, I, I, I did a podcast with Dr. Mink Chala.

• 1:28:23Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, the CMO, the chief medical officer.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's the chief medical officer there and it's worth a watch if, if, uh.

• 1:28:29Peter Diamandis?

  And please, the, the ultimate human podcast.

• 1:28:32Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:28:32Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:33Speaker 00

  The ultimate human podcast.

• 1:28:34Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:34Speaker 00

  But, um, uh, so Dr. Chala is a nephrologist. Um, he, he was an ICU septic specialist, you know? And one of the challenges in ICU is that people get sepsis. Um, uh, it's pretty common.

• 1:28:44Peter Diamandis?

  Bacteria in your blood.

• 1:28:45Speaker 00

  Bacteria in your blood.

• 1:28:46Peter Diamandis?

  Very painful, very dangerous.

• 1:28:48Speaker 00

  Very dangerous. I mean, it's sometimes not painful because you're not conscious, but you know, but, but very, very dangerous nonetheless. And, and a part of what happens is can shut your kidneys down. So he was nephrologist. So obviously he's been studying how the blood is filtered, uh, throughout, throughout his entire career. He's also published some unearthly amount of, of peer reviewed studies. It's well in excess of a hundred.

• 1:29:08Peter Diamandis?

  And he's a sweetheart guy.

• 1:29:10Speaker 00

  He's a sweetheart of a guy. I mean, he's one, Lily, one of my favorite humans and I've been talking to him about spike protein detox. But, um, and so the, this filtration system, uh, that, that he's, uh, co-developed has, um, uh, not just filters, which most filters are, uh, filter based on size, right? So that, so a filter will be a step down filter will have progressively decreasing, um.

• 1:29:34Peter Diamandis?

  Size pores that things can get through.

• 1:29:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. And so you're filtering things out by size, but when you're, when you're filtering the blood, um, and you're filtering it by size, like you want to get down to the size of the micron size of a virus. Well, now you're going to take platelets and you're going to take all kinds of growth factors. You're going to take all kinds of positive.

• 1:29:55Peter Diamandis?

  Useful stuff.

• 1:29:55Speaker 00

  Useful things out of the bloodstream. So what you, what you'd prefer to do is creating a binding affinity.

• 1:30:01Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:02Speaker 00

  And if you could, you know, selectively create an affinity, um, that attracted things like viruses, uh, mycotoxins, circulating tumor cells, which is fascinating to me that you can get circulating tumor cells. Um, uh, bisphenols, microplastics, um, and you could create this binding affinity. And essentially what these heparin binding sites do, you know? Aside from increase the surface area inside this filter is they sort of mimic the wall of the artery, the glyco.

• 1:30:32Peter Diamandis?

  The glyco calyx, yes.

• 1:30:34Speaker 00

  And and so, which a lot of pathogens have a natural affinity for, because that's how you leave the blood and enter the tissue.

• 1:30:41Peter Diamandis?

  The way, the way, when he was speaking at my longevity platinum trip, he said, listen, you typically have these things that are circulating through your blood. And if they're trying to attack you, they need to attach to the surface of the blood vessel. And then enter through that. And our blood vessels are coated with this glyco calyx, this large protein structure. And he built this, this filter, he called it the Sephora.

• 1:31:12Speaker 00

  Seraph.

• 1:31:12Peter Diamandis?

  Seraph, Seraph filter. And the number I remember, it's a tennis court size surface area of this glyco calyx protein that your blood flows through. And so if your blood has any kind of viruses, and we are constantly building up these viral loads.

• 1:31:30Speaker 00

  Thousand percent. I mean,

• 1:31:31Peter Diamandis?

  Crazy.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  You know, we were talking before the podcast, and I'm a big fan of this sort of emerging viewpoint that aging is this process of immunofatigue.

• 1:31:41Peter Diamandis?

  Yes, immunoe exhaustion.

• 1:31:42Speaker 00

  Immunoe exhaustion. Yeah. So it's, you know, the immune system is just fighting on too many fronts. You know, eventually, we're, we're sort of micro poisoning ourselves to death. We're bathing our cellular biology in this toxic soup, even, even those of us that are trying our best not to. And if you could filter these pathogenic compounds, including a lot of the inflammatory compounds out of the human, out of the bloodstream. Now, all of a sudden, you give your immune system a leg up, you know, so, you know, so mold, mycotoxins, viruses, you know, they have some really interesting data on long COVID. And, you know, 27 million people report suffering from long COVID. They can filter long COVID out of your blood in two or three filters.

• 1:32:27Peter Diamandis?

  It's incredible.

• 1:32:28Speaker 00

  Which is astounding. That gives somebody their life back.

• 1:32:30Peter Diamandis?

  It does. And the way I think about it is the following. We are living in this world of embedded with viruses and we get a, we might get a CMV, we might get a Epstein Barr virus, a, um, a

• 1:32:49Speaker 00

  Shingles.

• 1:32:50Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, all of these viruses and they don't go away. They're embedded in your cell, in your DNA and they flare up.

• 1:32:58Speaker 00

  Literally wound into your DNA.

• 1:32:59Peter Diamandis?

  And, and it turns out your innate immune system, your natural killer cells are there and they have two primary functions. One is they're looking for cells infected by viruses and killing those cells.

• 1:33:13Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:33:14Peter Diamandis?

  The other one is they're looking for cancer cells.

• 1:33:16Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:33:17Peter Diamandis?

  The same natural killer cells.

• 1:33:18Speaker 00

  Circulating tumor cells, yep.

• 1:33:19Peter Diamandis?

  And if you are bombarding your body with these embedded viruses that you're getting and you get a cold and you get COVID on top of that, you exhaust it to the point where it cannot battle on all these fronts.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:33:33Peter Diamandis?

  And so when you put one of these filters and you literally are taking the blood out of your body, you're filtering it over this tennis court size of glycolics, all of those, uh, those, you know,

• 1:33:46Speaker 00

  Circulating tumor cells, pathogens.

• 1:33:48Peter Diamandis?

  Get, get pulled out and you return to your blood and then your immune system's like, ah, it's a field day. We're gonna go, we're gonna sweep up all the guys that are left.

• 1:33:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think it would be a great treatment to do before you did biologics. So if you were doing stem cells or exosomes or a natural killer cell treatment or one of the other advanced biologic treatments to actually have a clean slate.

• 1:34:07Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 1:34:08Speaker 00

  You know, um, one of the things that we do for, you know, athletes and other folks that are leaving the country to go do stem cell treatments is we say, well, let's take 10 weeks and really get your blood as clean as we can, right? Let's, let's lower.

• 1:34:20Peter Diamandis?

  You don't wanna hit your body with stem cell treatments if you've got any kind of cancer in your body or anything that the stem cells could activate, uh, a continuous

• 1:34:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. And not only, not only that, you don't wanna do it if you have, you know, hyperinsulinemia, but you know, a lot of pro-inflammatory cytokines or, you know, very high C-reactive protein, high homocysteine, these, you know, it's, it's stem cells have an affinity to, for inflammation and you want, you want the inflammation to be in the areas where you need the stem cells to go to work, not just sort of dispersing once they get to the, to the bloodstream.

• 1:34:55Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah. Buddy, tell everybody where they can find you.

• 1:34:59Speaker 00

  My first and last name, just at Gary Brecka on Instagram or at The Ultimate Human. My podcast is The Ultimate Human. I have a community, I write a free newsletter every week, I write challenges and guides. I host free challenges about every other month, cold plunge challenges, breathwork challenges, whole food challenges, gut challenges, all kinds of things.

• 1:35:24Peter Diamandis?

  And people go through a community, with a community go through that challenge together.

• 1:35:27Speaker 00

  I have a paid community, it's 97 bucks a month. I do four private podcasts a month with that community, do a lot of one-on-one, like, you know, Q and A's, bring lots of special guests on there. I've had Dana White, Jelly Roll, Stephen A. Smith, you know, lots and lots of fun folks on our challenges. I have a free challenge coming up in February, which is my morning routine challenge.

• 1:35:50Peter Diamandis?

  Nice.

• 1:35:51Speaker 00

  So we're going to go through the science of morning routines, the science of circadian rhythm. I stayed with them for three days, were actually measuring sleep scores. It's a really, really cool, fun, active, engaged community.

• 1:36:02Peter Diamandis?

  And, you know, listen, if you want to make a change in your life, doing this with a community is the number one way to do it.

• 1:36:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, for sure. And that's what we're trying to do, that's what we are doing at The Ultimate Human, is just building a community, and we call them the Ultimate Human VIPs. So you can go to theultimatehuman.com, read what it would be like to become an Ultimate Human VIP.

• 1:36:25Peter Diamandis?

  So I'm back in Miami, date of February, the FII Summit is happening down there. Yeah. I'm coming through to play with your toys.

• 1:36:33Speaker 00

  Let's do it, man.

• 1:36:36Speaker 00

  You'll get, we'll do a podcast in the hyperbaric chamber.

• 1:36:38Peter Diamandis?

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:36:40Speaker 00

  All right, awesome, Peter.

• 1:36:41Peter Diamandis?

  All right. Good luck, my friend.

• 1:36:43Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:36:43Peter Diamandis?

  Take care, buddy, live healthy.

• 1:36:58Speaker 02

  Priceline Negotiator.

• 1:37:00Speaker 03

  It's me, the...

• 1:37:01Speaker 02

  Priceline Negotiator.

• 1:37:04Speaker 03

  We don't need the jingle twice.

• 1:37:05Speaker 02

  What about a third time?

• 1:37:06Speaker 03

  Stop it. This is about vacation inflation and how Priceline negotiates amazing deals on hotels, flights, and rental cars.

• 1:37:13Speaker 02

  Seems like they just started.

• 1:37:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I didn't mention that you can save up to 60% off hotels in the Priceline app.

• 1:37:19Speaker 02

  Time to read the timeline.

• 1:37:21Speaker 03

  Fine. No one deals more deals than...

• 1:37:23Speaker 02

  Priceline.

• 1:37:24Speaker 03

  Please stop.

• 1:37:25Speaker 02

  Priceline.

• 1:37:26Speaker 03

  Touche.

• 1:37:26Speaker 02

  Priceline.

• 1:37:28Speaker 03

  Priceline.