10/30/26 Friday Fun Time: The Top 10 Most Selling Albums of All-Time

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  We, it's, it's a lot of red on the screen today. We're going to, we're going to kind of get into it a little bit, but. So the Fed decided they were going to leave interest rates steady on Wednesday. I didn't necessarily agree with that tactic, right?

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  I didn't really see that coming. I thought they might increase it again.

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  Yeah, I was thinking they might increase it. I mean, everybody was saying, oh, they're not going to increase it. It was like an 80% chance they were going to leave it alone, which usually the, the futures markets are usually pretty correct. But I think there was a case to be made that they should have raised and you had two of the 12 members voting that agreed with us that they should have raised and

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  we're seeing the, we're seeing the fruits of that labor today.

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  The NASDAQ is down about three and a half percent. It's actually up off of its lows. At one point it was down almost 4%.

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  Yeah, down 3.38 right now. The Dow down 1.3.

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  The dumb Dow.

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  The S and P down 2.19.

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  Yeah. I mean, it, and so a bit of the distress, if you will, is, you know, the tech stocks.

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  I feel like Gero would say, there's more sellers than buyers.

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  There's more sellers than buyers. I actually said that to Sammy yesterday. We went to an event and I said, technology. I think he lost it. Um, but when, interest rates being where they are right now, inflation is something that is going to really affect these tech stocks and the AI companies in particular. So the NASDAQ, as of right now, is technically in correction territory. It's down 10% from its most recent high, which was literally just earlier this month. Okay.

• 5:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. So the correction is defined as 10% or more, right?

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  Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it technically entered into it midday today. It may close, but we still have about an hour before the, the market close. If it closes in correction territory, does it continue to go down? Does it maybe bounce from there? Right now, it looks like it's kind of bouncing right off of that 10%. But technically it did reach into its correction territory earlier today.

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  And I like that you mentioned tech and NASDAQ. The reason that you're making that connection is 64% of the.

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  The NASDAQ is technology. Literally technology, Meta, Apple, you know, Nvidia. One of the big losers today is us as the taxpayer, the US taxpayer lost 12, $12 billion today.

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  And that's through the ownership of.

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  Intel.

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  Right.

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  So the US government owns a 10% stake in Intel.

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  Still don't necessarily agree with the US government buying stocks, right? But that was part of the deal. And so the US government owns a 10% stake in Intel. And Intel missed its numbers and also had a bad outlook, uh, moving forward. And so Intel alone is down 30% today.

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  Now, we talk about buyers and sellers, right?

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  There's a ton of sellers.

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  And the, when we're buying a stock, at the end of the day, if you say, what am I buying? It's ownership in a company based on.

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  It's growth and earnings and potential.

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  So they're looking at those earnings and saying, okay, you missed the mark.

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  Right.

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  By quite a bit.

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  And your forward guidance is not looking good. And there's pressure in AI. You missed the boat in AI, Mr. Intel.

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  Well, there's been lots of spending on AI.

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  Right.

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  And we have yet to see all of the fruits of that labor yet.

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  Or any really, for that matter.

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  It's going to play out.

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  Right. Not that we're anti-AI, we're not. I think that there's definitely a place for it. It's just, I think that the buildup has been very one-sided and we haven't necessarily seen the economics of what it looks like on the backside of that. And, you know, Intel being down 30% today.

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  It's still up. Prior to today, it was up 150% year to date.

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  Right.

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  So it's given back about a third of that, right? Which it still means it's basically doubled in value for the year. So don't, don't, I mean, we just, we have to look at it, you know, from, from that perspective and say, well, yeah, today was a really, really bad day, but the year's actually been not bad.

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  Well, you bring up a good point, right? We're not making, unless you're day trading.

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  Right.

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  A lot of times you're building a portfolio for a long period of time, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 years retirement, right?

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  Right.

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  And so it's good to have that perspective. So like the S and P is down 2% today, but year to date it's up 10. You look at the five-year return, it's up 64%.

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  Right. Right. So you can always look at these bad days and wonder, oh, should I move out of the market? Absolutely not. Because probably, and this is just from probability speaking, it, for all probabilities, within a month, we're going to have a complete snapback from just going back on history and that's no guarantee of, you know, future results or anything like that. But typically, after the worst days in the market, and I'm not saying that this is one of the worst days, but it's a, it's a bad day. After the worst days in the market, within about three weeks to a month, there's usually a snapback.

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  So what you're saying is I should keep a long-term perspective when building a portfolio?

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  Bingo. Do not time the market. Not what we're looking to do. Anyhow, so, um, yeah, it's been a, it's been a wild ride today, but we're, we're, you know, we'll see what, where it ends. It looks like it's kind of bouncing off of its lows of the day. Doesn't mean it's going to be positive by the end of the day, by any stretch of the imagination. But it is kind of stabilizing a little bit. Anyhow, we are going to take a quick break. When we come back, we got Michael George from Safe One Credit Union and we're going to talk a little bit about music.

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  Welcome back.

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  I could just see John Travolta right now.

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  Or, but didn't they play it also on Airplane?

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  The scene on Airplane where the, he was playing as if the, he was John Travolta.

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  Oh, yes, yeah, that did happen. Yeah.

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  The Girl Scout gets thrown across the.

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  The dance and the, yeah.

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  Yeah, the guy with a knife in his back and he's.

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  Yeah.

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  Doing that thing.

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  Saturday Night Fever.

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  Saturday Night Fever. Well, yeah, that the, yeah, Saturday Night Fever was the, the movie with the John Travolta, but I always go like, I, I love the parodies.

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  Yeah.

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  You know, and so Airplane was.

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  They did it.

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  They did it. They did a pretty good job of it. Um, man, it's a, it's a really bad day to quit sniffing glue.

• 10:51Speaker 03

  So, um, we're going to get down to business here with Michael George. Uh, Michael George is the, uh, executive vice president now or COO?

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  COO, yes, thank you.

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  Of, uh, Safe One Credit Union and, uh, a good friend of the show and has a monthly spot. So we're going to just continue doing this thing. So what do you got, man? How are things going?

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  All things good. Life is busy. Uh, the first time I came on the show, Gero invited me on. So it's good to see Gero here. Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, things are good. Busy. Life's busy. Busy for you too.

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  Um, absolutely.

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  Yeah, it's been a, it's, it's been a wild ride. Uh, it's, it's been great knowing you and having you on the show every month. Cause it's like, we always wind up having the best conversations.

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  I enjoy it.

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  We always know that it winds up being a really easy show for us. Cause.

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  Michael George is going to be here. He's going to have a top 10 list and we're going to be able to milk this the entire way through the rest of the show. So we got this thing going. So Michael, tell us what you got, man.

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  We got a good one.

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  Yes.

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  We're going to go over the top 10 selling albums of all time. And we're also going to find out what the artists earned from that. Cause you know, we all have our favorite artists, our favorite albums. There's literally been millions of albums released.

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  Oh.

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  Over the decades.

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  Oh, easy.

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  But only, only 10 can be the top 10.

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  That's right.

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  And only one can be number one. You might have an idea of some of them. So as we go through, what I'll do is I'm going to give you some hints.

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  Okay.

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  I want you guys to guess.

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  We're going to do this as a, as a kind of a.

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  Trivia.

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  A trivia quiz, like Trivial Pursuit.

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  But I feel like the trivia master is the one giving the trivia.

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  I know, right?

• 12:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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  Right?

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  That's how it usually works.

• 12:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause I, I cheated. I know the answers already, man.

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  Go for it, man.

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  All right, we're going to start at number 10 now. I just want you to know that number 10, nine and eight all have the same type of numbers. They've all, uh, sold 40 million units worldwide.

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  Okay.

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  Estimated revenue of 600 to 800 million dollars. And in each case, the artist earned about 75 million dollars.

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  Ooh.

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  So that's for these, for 10, nine and eight.

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  Okay.

• 12:52Speaker 05

  So number 10, I'm going to give you some, uh, some clues and then you let me know.

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  Okay.

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  You can jump in anytime. So this first one at number 10, it was released on November 4th, 1997. This album was this artist's third studio album and remains the most successful album by a female as well as country artist. All songs on the album were written by this artist and her then producer and husband, Robert John Mutt Lang. The album was actually released in multiple versions. While the original version of the album was heavily country oriented, a later international version was remixed with a more pop rock sound, which helped it to cross over into mainstream markets around the world. So when you see.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  So you're saying it's, it's a singular female artist. I was thinking it might've been a trio.

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  Uh, no.

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  It was not the Dixie Chicks.

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  It's not the Dixie Chicks. No.

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  Okay.

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  No.

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  Do you have a different name now?

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  Yeah, it's now it's the chicks.

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  They're just the chicks.

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  There's just the chicks. They dropped Dixie.

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  No more Dixie with the chicks.

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  I got nothing.

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  You got nothing.

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  I don't know how to recognize that spouse's name either.

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  I'm not a.

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  Okay, I'm going to give you some songs on the album. Ready?

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  I'm not a big country fan, so.

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  Okay, here's some songs. This, this will tell you. You're Still The One.

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  Oh.

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  Shania Twain. You're right. From this moment on, That Don't Impress Me Much, Man, I Feel Like A Woman, Don't Be Stupid, You Know I Love You, and Honey, I'm Home, all on the album.

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  Actually not a bad album.

• 14:06Speaker 04

  That's a bad album.

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  Look, I, I don't, I don't listen to country.

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  I'm not a country guy.

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  But this was popular enough to where I know some of those songs.

• 14:12Speaker 04

  Every man says that when it comes to that Shania Twain album. I don't like country, but she was really good.

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  Yeah.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  I didn't say that. I did not say that. I didn't go that route. I'm saying it's actually not a bad album.

• 14:27Speaker 05

  That's it. Steven's on it, man. Nice.

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  Right.

• 14:30Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 14:31Speaker 03

  We're going to record that one. That's going to be on the bumper rotation.

• 14:33Speaker 04

  We need to bring Gero more often. It makes Steven sing.

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  All right, now going on.

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  We're going on number nine. Okay. Now these next three, I already told you about the, you know, 10, nine, eight, but these next three, so put your mindset in 1977.

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  Oof.

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  Cause these next three albums.

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  I wasn't even born yet.

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  1977. That, that, then it'll be difficult for you. All right, here we go. Again, worldwide, worldwide sales, 40 million, artist revenue, 75 million. Okay, this soundtrack album.

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  Okay.

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  Hint, you already know, was released on November 15th, 1977 and became an enormous cultural phenomenon. While the main artist, uh, on this album, uh, the songs, they became closely associated with the movie. It's easy to forget that this soundtrack also included music from KC and the Sunshine Band.

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  Okay.

• 15:19Speaker 05

  Cool and the Gang, Tavoris, The Tramps.

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  Saturday Night Fever.

• 15:21Speaker 05

  You got it. Saturday Night Fever.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  That, that, I mean, I had to know that when he was playing the Bee Gees coming in, that it was, that it had to be.

• 15:27Speaker 05

  That's right. Hey, classic intro, John, John Travolta walking down the street.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 15:32Speaker 05

  Um, it had three number ones by the Bee Gees. How Deep Is Your Love, Staying Alive, Night Fever. Other hits included More Than A Woman, If I Can't Have You. Uh, what's interesting about this is that the Bee Gees, they're synonymous with the soundtrack, but they were already working on these songs for their next studio album.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  Right.

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  And what happened is their manager, Robert Stigwood, he asked him to put music to the movie he was making, which he had just started. And so they didn't get involved until post-production. And, uh, it spent 24 weeks at number one on the Billboard 200. This is interesting. It won the sound, the soundtrack won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year in 1979. So it came out in 77 and two years later.

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  And it's two, two years slow burn.

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  Yeah, slow burn. It started slow and then just got, it was monster. Um, it was so enormous that it became the, one of the defining albums of disco. And as you guys know.

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  The only album of disco.

• 16:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Right.

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  Pretty much dead after that.

• 16:22Speaker 05

  And it made John Travolta, as you know, forever cool, man.

• 16:25Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. That guy can still dance.

• 16:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:27Speaker 04

  I don't know about that.

• 16:28Speaker 05

  Oh, and then I think, then.

• 16:30Speaker 04

  Bee Gees?

• 16:31Speaker 05

  Was it, was it Grease, Saturday Night Fever, then he did Urban Cowboy? He had like three monsters in a row.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  Right, right. Well, and the thing about like the Bee Gees, prior to the Saturday Night Fever, right? They were, they were like a rock and roll band. They were not a disco band.

• 16:45Speaker 05

  No, no, they were from the 60s.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  But that's what they're known for is the disco side.

• 16:48Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  But prior to that, they were like, uh, you know, a, a regular, just like a rock and roll kind of a band.

• 16:53Speaker 05

  Yep. No, they, they started in the 60s and they just, they just became synonymous with disco out of a fluke. So. All right, you ready for number eight?

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:01Speaker 05

  Okay, also 1977. Same, same, same revenue, 75 million for the artist. It's one of the strangest and most successful album stories in rock history. This album was initially rejected by multiple record companies, yet eventually became one of the best selling albums ever. Released on October 21st, 1977, it was this artist's second album and the first in his or her collaboration with songwriter Jim Steinman. As popular as this album became, it was not an immediate success, but rather it caught radio play through word of mouth and touring. Eventually this album developed into an international blockbuster and included hits such as, You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth, Heaven Can Wait, Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad, For Crying Out Loud, and Paradise By The Dashboard Light.

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  Despite the enormous success of this album, this artist and Steinman had a complicated professional relationship with legal disputes over royalties and publishing rights. The title track of it was?

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  I couldn't tell you.

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  I don't know that one.

• 17:57Speaker 05

  Steven?

• 17:59Speaker 04

  Steven knows.

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  You don't, you don't know?

• 18:01Speaker 04

  I, I, I think I know, but I'm not.

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  Take a guess.

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  Ready?

• 18:08Speaker 04

  Nah.

• 18:08Speaker 05

  It's not Kiss. It is.

• 18:10Speaker 04

  I was going to say, where's Kiss?

• 18:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not, not, yeah.

• 18:12Speaker 04

  It's got to be at the top, that's why.

• 18:13Speaker 05

  Bad Out Of Hell, Meatloaf.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 18:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  Man, there's no way I was going to get that.

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  I was way off.

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  No way.

• 18:19Speaker 05

  That was huge.

• 18:20Speaker 03

  It was a huge movie, but, uh, man, there's no way I was getting that.

• 18:24Speaker 05

  Concert film. Yeah, it was, it was, it was big in the late 70s.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  I was thinking you were going to say something like this is Spinal Tap or something like that, but that would be the 1980s.

• 18:30Speaker 04

  That's funny. I was thinking the same thing.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Right. That would've been like, what, 84?

• 18:34Speaker 05

  Well, if you remember, uh, that Jim Steinman, so him and Meatloaf had a falling out and then he ended up getting, remember songs like, um, Holding On For A Hero, what was her name? Hero Till The End Of The Night, um. Oh.

• 18:48Speaker 04

  I don't know. It goes well with Meatloaf.

• 18:49Speaker 05

  Yeah. I'll think of her name. She passed away in the last year, but she ended up working with Jim Steinman. So he had hits with other artists later on, so.

• 18:57Speaker 04

  You know, I, I want to go back to the numbers for a minute. Did you say eight, nine and 10 all had similar sales?

• 19:02Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  And similar earnings for the artists?

• 19:05Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  So most of the contracts were similar then?

• 19:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  I guess they have to be competitive, right?

• 19:11Speaker 03

  Right, pretty much. But I mean, it's also based upon the sales of the albums, right?

• 19:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  So like, if you're all selling like 40 million copies.

• 19:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:21Speaker 03

  Then the revenue is probably going to be relatively similar because.

• 19:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:24Speaker 03

  The record is going to sell for the same. Yeah, the record is going to sell for 8.99 or whatever it is at the time.

• 19:28Speaker 05

  And back then they were much more standard. Um, and when we get to the next one, you'll see a difference a little bit, but like, you know, if you think about like Shania Twain and Meatloaf, you know, that was only their first and second album. So your clout and what you negotiate with the record company is not going to be as great as later on, you know?

• 19:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, we're going to have to take, before we get to this next one, we're going to wind up taking, well, let's, let's kind of just, uh, kind of regroup. We've already done the top, the top four, right?

• 19:53Speaker 05

  Uh, three.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Well, 10.

• 19:55Speaker 05

  No, 10, nine and eight.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  10, nine and eight. So we did, did those three, we're going to come back and we're going to do seven and, and down. Um, there's no way I was going to guess Meatloaf. There's just.

• 20:06Speaker 05

  I just thought of the other name, Bonnie Tyler.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Bonnie Tyler. I was thinking it was like Carly Simon or something like that.

• 20:12Speaker 05

  Bonnie Tyler, that was it.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  Eclipse of my heart?

• 20:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:14Speaker 05

  That's it.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  There it is. Man, you're going to have to bring that one back.

• 20:18Speaker 04

  No, I won't.

• 20:21Speaker 04

  Somebody sent in a message. They said, uh, Meatloaf was a king at one point.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  And, uh, he'll do anything but that for love.

• 20:30Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  Right? Yeah, so.

• 20:33Speaker 04

  Wasn't he Rocky Horror Picture Show?

• 20:34Speaker 03

  Yes, he did.

• 20:35Speaker 05

  Yes, he was.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  And he was also the bouncer in Wayne's World. That's right. He was, he was the bouncer in Wayne's World at the, at the Heavy Metal Bar.

• 20:43Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  You know, uh, Crucial Taunt and, uh, this, the, the, the crappy Beatles.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  So.

• 20:52Speaker 05

  That's good.

• 20:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, so there's, there was no way I was getting that out, that album though. That was, that's pretty good though. Hey, we're, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back with more, uh, of the top albums, uh, ever sold when we come back.

• 21:28Speaker 03

  Welcome back. You gotta love Steven pulling the, uh, pulling out some crucial taunt from Wayne's World, like, just out of nowhere.

• 21:40Speaker 03

  Like, you know the movies I'm watching this weekend?

• 21:43Speaker 05

  Great movie, dude.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  It's a fantastic movie. Carrie hates it.

• 21:46Speaker 05

  Really?

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, most adult women hate it.

• 21:52Speaker 03

  It's like, just be right. Let's be honest about it. It's Wayne. Yeah. Uh, and then, so then, you know, Debbie came in dressed as Beatrix Kiddo from, uh, Wayne, uh, from Kill Bill today. So I'm like, I'm totally having to go home and watch those two movies.

• 22:06Speaker 05

  My favorite.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  Like, those are great Tarantino flicks. Um, but we're not talking about movies today. We're talking about music. We're talking about albums and actual albums. This is the thing. I'm noticing this and we're gonna, we're gonna get into more albums here from seven down. These are albums and I'm thinking that we're probably not gonna see many that are in the 2000s. The music industry has completely changed.

• 22:35Speaker 05

  Totally different.

• 22:35Speaker 03

  And it's all streaming now, so the artists get paid not by album sales, but by touring.

• 22:41Speaker 05

  Touring is the main one, yeah.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  That's how they make their money now. So I, I'm gonna have to reframe what I'm thinking, because when you're talking about these, originally I was thinking, oh, it's gotta be like, something like Eminem or

• 22:50Speaker 05

  Right, exactly.

• 22:51Speaker 03

  Jay-Z or something. And it's like, no, it's not. And different deal and different way to make money. So we're gonna go with number seven. What do we got?

• 22:58Speaker 05

  Number seven, okay. Um, worldwide, worldwide sales of 40 million units.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 23:04Speaker 05

  And estimated revenue of 600 to 800 million. So similar to what we saw in 1098. But something that you'd mentioned, Dustin, estimated artist earnings of 110 million in this case. And it was released on February 4th, 1977.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 23:17Speaker 05

  This album was this artist's 11th studio album, but only the second with a revamped lineup. What makes this album interesting is how the incredible music created came at a time when the members of this band were falling apart personally. Relationship breakups, marriages ending, jealousy, drugs, exhaustion, and enormous pressure to follow up their previous success. Despite all these pressures at when the Grammy Award for Album of the Year, take a guess.

• 23:41Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go with Fleetwood Mac.

• 23:42Speaker 05

  You are correct. Rumors, you're right.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  When you said that all the band members were falling apart, they got all of them, like, thinking, you know, Lindsey Buckingham and like, yeah, it had to be, had to be Fleetwood Mac.

• 23:53Speaker 05

  You remember some of the songs, Dreams, Go Your Own Way, Don't Stop, You Make Love Fun, Secondhand News, The Chain, and Gold Dust Woman. I remember Garo singing Secondhand News, yeah.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  I know Steven's not a fan. Steven's not a fan of Fleetwood Mac, but I mean, that album was really quite good.

• 24:08Speaker 05

  Horrible.

• 24:08Speaker 00

  I think 40 million units.

• 24:10Speaker 05

  He's not a great person, but he's a great talent, you know?

• 24:14Speaker 03

  Well, at least it's not Spruce Springsteen, right?

• 24:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  But that's a good one. That, I mean, it's, you might not like the music or whatever, but I mean, it was, it was a great album for its day. Yeah.

• 24:26Speaker 05

  It is. They had a couple of good albums.

• 24:27Speaker 00

  I'll take Shania Twain over that any day.

• 24:29Speaker 05

  All right.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  Just because you're watching the videos.

• 24:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:33Speaker 00

  She had talent.

• 24:35Speaker 05

  Okay, now, these next two, number six and number five, little bit of change. Worldwide sales of 42 million units, estimated revenue of 630 to 840 million dollars.

• 24:45Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 24:46Speaker 05

  And artist earnings of 125 million dollars for both of them.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 24:50Speaker 05

  Both released in 1976, so we're kind of in that same era.

• 24:54Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 24:54Speaker 05

  Okay, so released on December 8th, 1976. I always think December 8th, John Lennon died on December 8th, four years later. But this album explores the darker side of the American dream. Though not a concept album in the traditional sense, songs throughout this album share the common themes of excess, fame, and disillusionment. The title track represents this artist's biggest hit song reaching number one on the Billboard Hot 100 and staying there for one week. Like the title track, the album reached number one in January 1977 and remained in the top spot for eight non-consecutive weeks.

• 25:26Speaker 05

  Other songs besides the title track that would give it away include New Kid in Town, Life in the Fast Lane, Wasted Time, and Victim of Love. Eagles.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:35Speaker 05

  Hotel California.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  Hotel.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Okay, all right, yeah.

• 25:38Speaker 05

  Number six, so that was number six, Hotel California by the Eagles. Okay, I'm gonna go right into five.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 25:43Speaker 05

  Because the numbers are the same, and it's gonna be an interesting story here. But this album was released on February 17th, 1976. So same year as Hotel California, but earlier in the year.

• 25:53Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 25:54Speaker 05

  And it's a collection of songs from this artist's first four studio albums. Though it is unusual for an artist to make a greatest hits record after only four studio albums with more to be made, because they hadn't broken up. The record company saw it as an opportunity to package songs for people who liked the singles but didn't own all four albums. In addition, this artist at the time was going through a major transition as one of the founding members left the band citing musical differences and not liking the more rock-oriented direction. The album has spent more than 500 non-consecutive weeks on the US album chart and came out prior to this artist, this band's most successful studio album, released later that year.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  So it has to be the Eagles.

• 26:31Speaker 05

  It's the Eagles. It's the Eagles. Uh, and it's their greatest hits from 1971 to 75.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Okay, so they had two of the top 10.

• 26:39Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  Number five and number six.

• 26:41Speaker 05

  Yep. And each one's 125 million bucks to the artist.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  And so the one that was the greatest hits was released in February.

• 26:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 26:48Speaker 03

  Which then means that it didn't contain any of the songs from the next, from Hotel California, which is their quintessential album.

• 26:57Speaker 05

  Exactly. They had a good year. 76 was a good year for the Eagles.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, they were making some bank.

• 27:01Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No wonder they couldn't get along.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  Everybody was spending money.

• 27:04Speaker 05

  Figured out how to spend it all, you know? Crazy. No, that was, both good albums.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:09Speaker 05

  Both good albums.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  All right.

• 27:10Speaker 05

  Ready for number four?

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Let's hit number four.

• 27:12Speaker 05

  Okay. Uh, this album, very similar, but worldwide sales of 45 million units, estimated revenue between 675 and 900 million dollars, artist earnings of 150 million. It's also an album from the 70s.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 27:26Speaker 05

  And it was released on March 17th, 1973. It was this artist's eighth studio album. What's especially interesting is even though it's very much a concept album, this artist developed much of it playing live prior to the recording being finished. This artist has described the album as dealing with things like life, work, money, travel, and death. And although the album has 10 tracks, it's really designed to feel like one long piece of music. The biggest tracks from the album were Time, Money, The Great Gig in the Sky.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  Pink Floyd.

• 27:55Speaker 05

  That's an M, Breathe.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  At first, I was thinking something like a Paul McCartney album from 73, like after the, after the Beatles broke up or something like that.

• 28:02Speaker 05

  He had some big ones. That'd have been about like the era of like Band on the Run, so yeah.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was thinking maybe something like that, but yeah, Pink Floyd, that totally, totally jives.

• 28:09Speaker 05

  I'm not a Pink Floyd fan. Are you, Steven?

• 28:11Speaker 03

  A little bit, oh, yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 05

  You guys are?

• 28:13Speaker 00

  First concert I went to.

• 28:14Speaker 05

  Are you serious?

• 28:15Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Pink Floyd's awesome.

• 28:16Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  Dark Side of the Moon is a great album.

• 28:18Speaker 05

  Wow, that's wild.

• 28:20Speaker 00

  You can thank my parents.

• 28:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was your first concert. That's wild. This is an interesting thing. It holds the record for most weeks on the Billboard 200. Listen to this. It has spent more than 996 non-consecutive weeks on the Billboard 200. That's more than 19 years of cumulative chart time. That's incredible, man.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  That's, that's staying power right there.

• 28:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, no doubt. Each generation discovers it. On it goes. That's awesome. Pretty wild.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  All right, we're gonna take a real quick, short break, and we're gonna do the top three.

• 28:49Speaker 05

  Top three.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  Right after this.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  All right, welcome back.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  I gotta say, the bassline on that song is amazing.

• 29:07Speaker 05

  Pretty cool.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  It's

• 29:08Speaker 05

  Pretty cool.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  Pretty melodic and just, yeah, it's a great song.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  It's like they know what they're doing.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're like professionals or something.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  So let's read through the top that we've done so far, from 10 down to four, and then we're gonna do the top three here in just a second.

• 29:22Speaker 05

  So at number 10, we had Come On Over by Shania Twain. Nine, Saturday Night Fever by the Bee Gees and various artists.

• 29:29Speaker 03

  And, and John Travolta.

• 29:30Speaker 05

  John Travolta made it, made it what it is. Uh, eight, Bad Out of Hell by Meatloaf. Number seven was Rumors by Fleetwood Mac. Six, Hotel California, the Eagles. Five, their greatest hits, 1971 through 1975, again, the Eagles. Number four, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  All right.

• 29:49Speaker 05

  We all have our favorites.

• 29:50Speaker 03

  I mean, those are, I mean, depending on whether you like that genre or music or not, still great. Many of them are just iconic albums.

• 29:58Speaker 05

  It's ingrained in our culture, all these, all those albums, so.

• 30:01Speaker 00

  You mentioned, you mentioned the Beatles right before.

• 30:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I'm wondering why.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  I'm surprised they didn't show up yet.

• 30:07Speaker 05

  You know, the Beatles are the greatest selling artists of all time, and I don't wanna be a spoiler alert, but none of them are in the top 10.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  What about Michael Jackson?

• 30:15Speaker 05

  He might.

• 30:16Speaker 03

  He might be.

• 30:16Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. Well, then, I mean, he bought the Beatles, so.

• 30:23Speaker 00

  That's about as close as we get.

• 30:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. So maybe the Beatles are on the list.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  I mean, but the thing with the Beatles was that like they had so many albums. It seemed like they were coming out with an album every nine to 12 months, right? They were just, they were completely like their, their discography is, is as long as my arm. So yeah, how are you selling that many albums if you're coming out with that much? So I guess.

• 30:43Speaker 05

  And from a publishing standpoint, their, their, um, their portfolio, if you will, is by far worth the most. It's well over a billion.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Even the albums that they did produce and they were doing every six months. I mean, that was monetarily what they had to do. But if they were really truly artistically doing it right, they would have taken some of the B sides on many of those albums and tossed it. And taken the A sides from two different albums and created one. Like they would have been able, it's, it, but they had so much music to put out there.

• 31:12Speaker 05

  Material, yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  Much of their B sides were like, eh.

• 31:14Speaker 00

  And plus, at that time, those albums were like six or seven songs.

• 31:18Speaker 03

  Right.

• 31:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then, uh.

• 31:21Speaker 03

  Not the 12 album, 12 song kind of albums.

• 31:23Speaker 05

  Then they, uh, you know, early days had cover tunes and all that. So yeah, it was a little different era, no doubt.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  All right. Number three.

• 31:29Speaker 05

  All right. Number three. Um.

• 31:30Speaker 00

  Kiss.

• 31:31Speaker 05

  World.

• 31:32Speaker 03

  Not Kiss.

• 31:33Speaker 05

  Alive two, uh, worldwide, worldwide sales of 45 million units, estimated revenue between 675 and $900 million. And a little bit different, the Dark Side of the Moon had estimated earnings of 150 million. This one drops down to 75 million because it's a soundtrack.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 31:51Speaker 05

  And it's essentially the main artist's album, but it's wrapped around a movie soundtrack that was released on November 17th, 1992. In addition to the main artist, the soundtrack also contains songs by other artists, including Lisa Stansfield, Curtis Stigers, Kenny G and Aaron Neville, Joe Cocker and The Soul System. This main artist version of the Dolly Parton song, I Will Always Love You.

• 32:13Speaker 00

  Bodyguard.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  Okay, Bodyguard. I, originally I was thinking it was like Batman with Prince.

• 32:19Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, that was.

• 32:20Speaker 03

  That was around the same time, right?

• 32:21Speaker 00

  That was a great song.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  Right? Prince and the, the Batman soundtrack. But when you started saying the other, uh, cause that one was all Prince, I think.

• 32:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  That, so there were, there were no other like, yeah.

• 32:33Speaker 05

  So this spent 14 weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot 100. Um, more than 20 weeks on the Billboard 200. And it won Grammy Award for Album of the Year in 1994.

• 32:43Speaker 03

  Man, she had some pipes though.

• 32:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, she was great.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  It's so, so disheartening what happened to her, but like she just had some absolute pipes. I'll never forget.

• 32:51Speaker 05

  World at one time.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  I'll never forget when she did the, uh, the national anthem at the Super Bowl.

• 32:56Speaker 05

  That was awesome.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  Like right after we, like the whole, the first Iraq war and all that other stuff. And she came out and I mean, that was just goosebumps.

• 33:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  You know?

• 33:04Speaker 05

  I think that even, they even released it as a single. It was so good.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:07Speaker 05

  I mean, I remember a video for it. I remember, I totally remember that.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 33:11Speaker 05

  Uh, okay. You ready for number two?

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's hit it.

• 33:13Speaker 05

  All right, man. This is my favorite one on the list.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  Okay. So it's gotta be heavy metal.

• 33:18Speaker 05

  Well, it's not Kiss. It's not Kiss. It's not Van Halen.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 33:23Speaker 05

  Uh, but it's, it's, it's.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  It's definitely in the rock genre. Okay, yeah.

• 33:26Speaker 05

  It is. So we're, we're, we're moving up a little bit with 50 million units sold worldwide. Estimated revenue, revenue between 750 million and 1 billion. So we're hitting 1 billion here. Artist earnings about 150 million. Here we go. Released on July 25th, 1980.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 33:43Speaker 05

  This album is this artist's seventh studio album and first with a new lead singer.

• 33:48Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 33:48Speaker 05

  From the album cover to the ringing of bells, to the start of the record, to references throughout the various tracks. Go ahead.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Is it an American band or an Australian band?

• 33:57Speaker 05

  It's not an American band. Most of them are from Australia, but the new lead singer was from England.

• 34:02Speaker 03

  Uh, Bon Scott.

• 34:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, Bon Scott.

• 34:04Speaker 03

  Yeah. And so ACDC.

• 34:06Speaker 05

  ACDC, yes. So the album essentially serves as a tribute to the previous singer, Bon Scott, who passed away prior to the recording.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 34:13Speaker 05

  Uh, if you remember, if you listen to the album, I think it's a song back, like I said, like back in the day I drove a Cadillac. I'm the one with the, one with a bullet. I'm a power pack.

• 34:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:21Speaker 05

  So all that's all references to like Cadillacs, down payment blues.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 34:25Speaker 05

  Bullet, give me a bullet to buy it on.

• 34:27Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 34:27Speaker 05

  Power pack, Power Aids, TNT, all that. So, uh, but.

• 34:31Speaker 03

  Back in black, right? That was, that was the album.

• 34:33Speaker 05

  It was back in black. Yeah. It's interesting. Like the number 10 album on the list, the Shania Twain one, it was produced by Robert John Mutt Lang, though in this instance, he was never married to any of the band members.

• 34:43Speaker 03

  Well, we'd hope.

• 34:44Speaker 05

  Distinction, yes.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  That we know of, that we, that we know of.

• 34:48Speaker 05

  Right. This album has been certified 26 times platinum and is considered not to have a weak track on the whole record. It has spent 645 weeks on the Billboard 200 or 12.4 years.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really doesn't have any, it's, that's a banger from start to end.

• 35:01Speaker 05

  Starts in, just put it on one side and just let it over later. Yeah.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:04Speaker 05

  Very cool.

• 35:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 35:05Speaker 05

  All right. I'm going to give you guys, we're going to do number one here. You can take a guess. A lot of people already know it.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 35:12Speaker 05

  Do you want to take a guess or not yet?

• 35:13Speaker 03

  Well, you already said it was possibly Michael Jackson, right?

• 35:16Speaker 05

  Michael Jackson. A lot of people know it. Okay.

• 35:19Speaker 00

  Is that Thriller?

• 35:20Speaker 03

  But it's the time of year.

• 35:21Speaker 05

  67, oh yeah. Exactly. I didn't even time that. Wow. See, I did work in October. How about that? Uh, 67 to 7 million units sold worldwide. Estimated revenue between one and 1.3 billion and artist earnings of about 150 million. So though it's hard to believe, Thriller was Michael Jackson's 21st album.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  That's wild.

• 35:40Speaker 05

  Previous efforts with Jackson 5 and the Jacksons. It was his sixth solo album, released on November 30th, 1982. And Michael Jackson, ready for this? Was only 24 years old. Thriller became nothing short of a worldwide phenomenon, making him a global superstar. This is amazing to me. Seven of the album's nine tracks were released as singles with all seven reaching the Billboard Hot 100's top 10. So ready?

• 36:02Speaker 03

  Good grief.

• 36:03Speaker 05

  Billie Jean, number one. Beat It, number one. Wanna Be Starting Something, number five. The Girl Is Mine, number two. Pretty Young Thing, number 10. Thriller, number four, and Human Nature, number seven. It won eight Grammy Awards at the 1984 ceremony, including Album of the Year, with Jackson becoming one of the first black artists to receive heavy rotation on MTV. This album has spent 726 weeks on the Billboard 200 or the equivalent of about 14 years.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  That's wild.

• 36:28Speaker 05

  Placing it behind only the one we talked about earlier, Dark Side of the Moon.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:32Speaker 05

  The 37 weeks in which Thriller appeared at number one on the Billboard 200 makes it the most for any album by a solo artist and behind only West Side Story soundtrack. And if you recall, there was this guy named Eddie Van Halen who did a smoking solo on Beat It.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  That's right. Yeah. And the one thing I remember like, you know, this is at the heyday of when MTV, you know, God rest its soul. Uh, MTV was start like the music videos were almost as important.

• 36:58Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:59Speaker 03

  As the, as the music itself.

• 37:01Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  And you look at the Thriller and the video that, I mean, the, the, the.

• 37:06Speaker 05

  Redefined it.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. The choreography and the, and the, the creativity of, of creating that out, uh, that, uh, that song and that album, and then that, uh, video.

• 37:16Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  It was like, that was what started some of these other artists.

• 37:21Speaker 05

  Totally.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  Creating these Matt, like, you know, Tom Petty with, uh, you know, Don't Come Around Here Manoar. Like the, the, the cinematography of.

• 37:29Speaker 05

  Totally.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  Those music videos. It's not just a bunch of guys standing up there playing their instruments. It's actually a story being told.

• 37:34Speaker 05

  I even think, I totally agree with you. And I also think like, when I see certain artists like, like Beyonce, um, uh, even Madonna, and you see like this choreography that they had on the stage. I mean, Michael Jackson's the one who kind of brought that. Yeah. He created that. Like the videos were all choreographed. His stage show was all choreographed.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  I mean, the nails in the, in the board so that he can do the lean with his shoes, like the special shoes, the whole thing. And like.

• 37:56Speaker 05

  I mean, it's just amazing. Yeah.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  So in the, so when he would do that.

• 38:00Speaker 05

  Criminal.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Smooth Criminal, where he would do that lean where he was down at like 30 or 40 degrees or whatever. Normal people would fall flat on their face. He had a special, like a nail or something in the floorboards of the stage and he had a special like clip in his heel that would clip into that so that he could create that illusion.

• 38:20Speaker 00

  Really?

• 38:21Speaker 03

  And be able to bounce back.

• 38:23Speaker 00

  Well, see, it's all the magic away. I thought he really did that.

• 38:25Speaker 03

  You thought he really did.

• 38:27Speaker 05

  It was right when this, about this time Thriller came out and they had some Motown special. And I remember it was the talk in the neighborhood at school, at work. When he did the moonwalk for the first time, it was like, that just brought that house down and everybody had it. Everybody talked about it.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  Like that was the same.

• 38:43Speaker 05

  What he did? Was that real? Was that trick photography? What did he do?

• 38:46Speaker 00

  That's not a trick, right? No, he's.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  No, the moonwalk he's actually doing. That's a real deal. But yeah, that, the stage, I mean, the stagecraft, I mean, obviously he got injured and burned because of the, the pyrotechnics. He was.

• 38:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was the Pepsi commercial. Yeah.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  All that kind of stuff. But, uh, yeah. I mean, real, real talented individual, um, real weird individual.

• 39:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  But super creative and.

• 39:09Speaker 00

  What musicians aren't weird?

• 39:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, truly.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  The same.

• 39:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:12Speaker 05

  Your dad's not weird.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, he is.

• 39:16Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 39:16Speaker 05

  Steven Z is not weird. Come on.

• 39:18Speaker 00

  Not at all. But is there any honorable mentions? Is there any close ones? Or I mean?

• 39:23Speaker 05

  You know what? There was, there was one, um, when I originally looked at the list that was on, but then when I saw other lists, cause I wanted to make it as accurate as possible, uh, Led Zeppelin four. Led Zeppelin four was up there. That's another one where, you know, you know, every track, even if the average listener doesn't know the name of the song, you'd be like, oh, I've heard that a million times. Yeah. Yeah. But that was on there. Um, that's one of the six out. There was, and, and there was another Led Zeppelin album that was high up there as well. Might've been, um, physical graffiti, but there was.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Well, I'm also going to really anger Steven at this point. I'm also kind of, uh, wondering why like somebody like a Billy Joel or somebody like that doesn't have something that's maybe up there a little bit higher.

• 39:57Speaker 00

  I was waiting for the Beatles or Led Zeppelin.

• 39:59Speaker 05

  I know. I know.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Metallica at one point, they were huge.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  Guns, Guns N' Roses, you know, like some of those albums were.

• 40:08Speaker 05

  So when you're, you're talking like that, that ACDC album, 26 times platinum, that's 26 million just in the United States.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  Right.

• 40:15Speaker 05

  That's incredible.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  That is wild.

• 40:17Speaker 05

  Totally incredible.

• 40:18Speaker 03

  Thank you for that, man. That's a, that's a great, uh, list. Uh, had a lot of fun doing that. Thank you, Michael.

• 40:24Speaker 05

  Was here too.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  I'm glad Gero, he was, he was involved and, and thumbs up and.

• 40:28Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 40:29Speaker 00

  And we gotta wish Gero an early birthday.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Early happy birthday tomorrow, tomorrow. Happy birthday to Gero, the man, the myth, the legend. Uh, we did get one message that came in. It says, I love that you guys don't bash AI like most people and 100% you either grow with it or get pushed to the side. I was thinking about something the other day. Uh, we're being told AI can help us run our businesses, manage our money, and who knows how quickly they'll be able to do more. But at the same time, we're being warned that criminals are using the exact same technology to steal from us. At what point do the risks outweigh the benefits? That's a great question. And I mean, we don't have a lot of time to really go into it, but I mean, the fact of the matter is as soon as we had banks, we had bank robbers.

• 41:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  Yep. Right? Every time that we've had a technological advance, there have been criminals and criminal minds that have tried to exploit it. So I look at it that way where it's like, it's just the same thing as the Wild West, when you had the stagecoach with Wells Fargo coming across the plains and you had a bandit going out there and grabbing the, right? Grabbing the money. Um, you know, so I mean, yes, we gotta be careful and obviously we need to have safeguards put in place. But I think it's, we, we don't want to put our head in the sand either, right? At the end of the day. Hey, have a wonderful, happy Halloween. Go out and get some candy. We'll be, uh, be smart, be safe, be money wise. We will see you next week.

• 41:58Speaker 02

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