Desk Bikes, Spotify Tricks & Airport Exploits - Life Hacks

Jonny & Yusef from Propane Fitness join me for another Life Hacks episode. Sit back & enjoy as we run through our favourite tools, apps, websites, strategies & resources for a productive and efficient life. Expect to learn why I've become fully obsessed with my new desk bike, Jonny's solution for protein cereal, how to get free Amazon delivery within a couple of hours, the best tricks to get the most out of Spotify, why Yusef is obsessed with his new pressure cooker, Apple's fantastic new iPhone Background Sounds feature and much more... Sponsors: Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and Free Shipping from Athletic Greens at https://athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Our Sponsor LetsGetChecked - get 25% discount on your at-home testosterone test at https://trylgc.com/wisdom (use code: WISDOM25) Extra Stuff: Access Propane's Free Training - https://propanefitness.com/modernwisdom Lumin Skincare - https://www.luminskin.com/ IKEA Custom Wardrobe Pax Cycling Desk - EXERPEUTIC EXERWORK 2000i Surreal Cereal - https://eatsurreal.co.uk/ Apply a webpage by Adding To Homescreen Cancel your Zoom Subscription for 30% off your renewal price. Free Rush Shipping after ordering on Amazon Prime The Boardroom Exercise Pick flights which immigrate at your destination Reduce connections to stop delays Get proper Blue Blocking Glasses - Block Blue Light or Ra Optics Hush or Stop The Madness Extensions for Chrome - https://underpassapp.com/StopTheMadness/ Share Spotify Podcasts with Timestamp Spotify for podcasts generally Enhance Liked Songs on Spotify Buy an Instant Pot Background Sounds on iPhone Visualize Value Chrome Extension Location Based Reminders to speak to friends Uber One Uber doesn’t get paid for stopping Uber instead of cars Watch The Suspect Watch The Boys The Thief, His Wife and The Canoe Listen To Sweet Bobby Watch Fantastic Fungi Watch Untold Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #lifehacks #amazon #spotify - 00:00 Intro 01:31 Lumin Skincare 05:17 IKEA Custom Wardrobes 08:15 Bike Desks 16:53 Surreal Cereal 21:32 Appify Websites 23:30 Discounted Zoom 25:57 Rush Shipping 30:15 The Boardroom Exercise 35:03 Careful Flight Picking 39:06 Blue Blocking Glasses 44:22 Stop the Madness on Chrome 46:00 Spotify for Podcasts 54:16 Ambient Background Music 56:10 Get an Instant Pot 1:01:40 iPhone Built-in Background Sounds 1:04:49 Visualise Value on Chrome 1:07:20 Location-Based Reminders 1:09:29 Uber Hacks 1:14:16 Recommended Things to Watch 1:27:21 Where to Find Jonny & Yusef - Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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• 0:00Chris Williamson?

  For the people whose first life hacks this is, this is what we're here for. It's the peak autist. If you think these are shit, imagine how bad the ones that didn't get on here are.

• 0:13Chris Williamson?

  In case people at home are wondering why I'm in an unfamiliar setting, many of you may not have seen me here before. This is my house in Newcastle and this is the studio that probably 350 or 400 episodes of the podcast has been done in. And I'm back for Johnny's wedding this week. So I've flown back from America, survived the flight, all went well. And I'm here. So the next few episodes that you're going to see will be with me in this kind of surroundings. Also, if you're not familiar with life hacks, it's been a little while since we did one. This was the first ever series that we did on the show and it's continued. Now this will be like the 20th episode. We do a little round table. We've come up with how to make a great toasted sandwich or a new exercise desk or whatever else we get into. And then one of them puts it forward, suggests why they think it's a great idea.

• 0:58Chris Williamson?

  And then the other two either tear it to pieces or immediately go on Amazon and buy it. So if there's anything that you like the sound of that we go through today, there'll be links to all of the stuff that we talk about in the show notes below. And that's pretty much it. Anything I missed?

• 1:15Jonny?

  Just that normally what happens at this point is you hot potato me and I have to say the first one.

• 1:21Chris Williamson?

  Well, it's interesting because I did actually bring a potato, which you'll find if you open iMessage, there is a potato in there. Johnny, please give us your first life hack.

• 1:31Jonny?

  Oh, it's boiling hot.

• 1:32Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, it is. It's microwaved.

• 1:34Jonny?

  Almost so hot that I'm tempted to throw it back, but I'll, I'll, I'll keep a hold of it.

• 1:38Chris Williamson?

  Good.

• 1:38Jonny?

  So my first one is, I think a symptom of the fact that I'm now over 30, getting older. And clearly the very social media platforms know this and they've started targeting me with a lot of skincare products. I don't know whether you two get this.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  Not loads, but maybe.

• 2:00Jonny?

  Not Chris, because Chris is just ageless, always beautiful.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  Benjamin Button.

• 2:04Jonny?

  Um, so there's a, there's this brand that's been like over and over and over again. And I've just been ground down over time and it's called Lumen. Have you seen this before?

• 2:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:15Jonny?

  You haven't seen it? Wow, it's so weird, isn't it? Because in my world, it's like, what? You haven't seen it? You haven't, so I see it like every day. So it's a, it's like, they try and get you on a subscription, but they have this cool thing where you, you go onto their website. You answer some questions because it's something that you've said to me before, Chris, like use a moisturizer and all this sort of stuff. And I don't really put any effort into it and I kind of want to, but I don't really know where to begin. And it all looks really expensive and quite intimidating. So you go through and go through their like questionnaire. They ask you questions about your skin types and all this sort of stuff. And then they just send you a little kit with loads of little tubs in there, really like aesthetic and nice. And they smell nice and they feel nice. And I've been using those for a while.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Do you reckon they send the same set of little tubs?

• 2:55Jonny?

  I don't want to think about that. I don't want to think about it.

• 2:58Chris Williamson?

  Okay, what are you trying to say? That the quiz, the entire quiz is just a show and everyone receives the same bundle of products?

• 3:04Speaker 02

  That it's all just a facade to make you feel like you're getting a really nice customized medical service.

• 3:08Jonny?

  Sudacreme, sudacreme in various forms, black sudacreme.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Size tubs.

• 3:13Chris Williamson?

  Okay, so what's, what's your current skincare routine then?

• 3:18Jonny?

  How long have you got? No, I'm just joking, it's not that complicated. So there's a, there's like a face wash, like a charcoal face wash. Why charcoal's in it? I don't know, but it, it feels like it's great. And like there's some secret mechanism to that. Charcoal face wash is a anti-aging moisturizer. And then there's a charcoal scrub. This is starting to sound like the opening scene of American Psycho. This is a charcoal scrub that you use like a couple of times a week. Which does have this weird way of just taking the first layer of your skin off. So that feels a bit strange. So it's those three things and you rotate them. And there's different packs that you get sent depending on your skin type and the, like the sort of skin you have, like the, whether you've had spots or things like that in the past. So I found it pretty good. I've enjoyed the experience.

• 4:02Chris Williamson?

  How much is it?

• 4:03Jonny?

  I think I'm probably going to get it again. Good question. It varies. So it varies depending on the pack you get, but it's like, it's also in dollars, but like thirty to fifty dollars for a set that they say will last you for a month, but you can stretch that out. Like I miss days. I'm not, you're supposed to use it twice a day. I don't use it twice a day. I know, it feels excessive. They also have it.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  Actually, the next video on the channel. But hey, guys, welcome back to my channel. But don't forget to like and subscribe. I'm going to go through my five step morning routine with my skincare as an entrepreneur.

• 4:38Chris Williamson?

  That's, that's what I could see you doing.

• 4:40Jonny?

  There'll probably now be an ad in wireless videos happening. If you're on YouTube, that's the Lumen.

• 4:45Chris Williamson?

  How do you spell it?

• 4:46Jonny?

  Click on that. I believe it's L U M I N.

• 4:51Chris Williamson?

  Got you. Cause Lumen, is that not the metabolism breathalyzer thing?

• 4:58Jonny?

  Correct.

• 4:59Chris Williamson?

  Perilously close. That's what I thought you were on about at first. Oh, man, I, I said it ages ago. Every person needs, you probably need something more than just a moisturizer, but the sooner that you can start moisturizing, I think the better. Find one that works with your skin and just use it. So I'm, hey, I'm, I'm down. I will, I will check it out. Youssef, what have you got?

• 5:20Speaker 02

  I would love to show you this one, but I don't touch any of the equipment around me. It would be perilous to do that. Cause I have a grounding issue and it could cause the camera to turn off. But I have or had an alcove in my room, a little niche, you could call it, of, of wall that I had a bar in there and hanging some clothes and a pile of kind of mismatched drawers and that kind of thing, thinking there's no way that I'm going to be able to get a wardrobe that fits exactly that. And then I found the IKEA custom wardrobe service. So you can book in like a Zoom call with someone in an Ikea.

• 6:03Chris Williamson?

  Swedish.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Outfit. Swedish with like a blurred background and their ears coloured in with with crayon. And they just talk you through measurements and they build you a wardrobe custom to the space. And you can choose what type of storage you want in it. So now it's it's added a lot of perceived space to my room because it's got mirrored door. And it's incredible. Just feel the room just feels so much less stressful.

• 6:28Chris Williamson?

  For clarity, you were on a Skype call or a Zoom call with a person from Ikea. With a tape measure and they were coaching you through how to measure the wall. This happened.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:42Jonny?

  Do they do anything else apart from just like get the tape measure and hold one end of it? And is there more to it than that?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, so they say, hello, my my name is Klamner. I am calling from Ikea. Can you please tell me the width, depth and height of your thing? Okay, here's the and they get a digital mock up and they share screen and they go like, okay, would you like? Drawers up to here and how many have you got lots of trousers or have you got lots of jackets? And and they help you to design a custom.

• 7:11Chris Williamson?

  And that's a free service.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  Pretty cheap. Free set. Well, obviously you pay for the wardrobe, but the.

• 7:16Chris Williamson?

  You were paying for the wardrobe anyway.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  It's free. Yeah.

• 7:19Jonny?

  Is the wardrobe more expensive? I presume it is.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  It was about five hundred and fifty pounds in total.

• 7:26Chris Williamson?

  Oh, God. Yes, that's a as as wardrobes go. That's pretty expensive.

• 7:35Jonny?

  It's probably cheap for a custom fit wardrobe, though.

• 7:37Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, like the.

• 7:39Jonny?

  Depends on the lens you look at it through, isn't it? But yeah, maybe more than I more than I was expecting, but. Sounds like you're very, very happy with it.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  So I think I think the mirrored doors are what adds to the price. Like if you got plain doors, it would be like three hundred quid.

• 7:54Chris Williamson?

  Got you. And what's that called Ikea custom? What? How do people get it?

• 7:58Speaker 02

  Uh, I think if you just search Ikea custom wardrobe. Pax is what it's called, P A X.

• 8:04Jonny?

  All right.

• 8:05Chris Williamson?

  Lovely.

• 8:05Jonny?

  Do they do other custom stuff?

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, they do.

• 8:11Speaker 02

  Full storage solutions. It's pretty nice.

• 8:13Chris Williamson?

  Right. This one has been requested an awful lot because I made the error of bringing up a product on an episode with Bellagio and then I didn't describe precisely which one it was, which sent people into a tailspin. So this is my new cycling desk, which I got after learning a lot about zone two cardio and the benefits of zone two, zone two being pretty gentle for most people, 110 to maybe 135 BPM heart rate stuff. Could hold a conversation with a little bit of breathing in between. Basically, that's where that's where zone two is. Andrew Huberman is a huge fan of it. You need to be doing between 120 and 180

• 8:56Chris Williamson?

  minutes per week. If you can, it is train slow to run fast is the strategy behind it, that it helps you to train in an aerobic base, which then gives you more of a ceiling until you need to go anaerobic, all this sort of stuff. Problem is that zone two sucks dick. It is such an unbelievably boring way to train unless you're into like trail running or kind of aggressive hiking. It's actually quite difficult to find a pace on your feet to to move at that because it's not a jog. A jog is going to, at least for me, is going to put me into the 140s, but a walk is going to keep me around about 100. So I'm in this kind of dead zone in between the two. It's also supposed to be very good. I mean, you guys could probably stress test this once I'm done. Really good for fat loss, apparently,

• 9:41Chris Williamson?

  if you were to continue to do it. Anyway, I was talking to some of the boys in the autistic degenerates group chat I've got from Austin and asking their solutions for it. And a bunch of them had treadmill desks that you can slide underneath. One of the problems that you have there is that you're moving up and down, which actually makes it a little bit more difficult to type. It's good for calls if you've got lots of conferencing, apart from the fact that you're obviously walking, which is a bit of a dick move to the other person. Long story short, I spent an entire evening very, very carefully analyzing the difference between every different cycling desk that I could find on Amazon. And I ended up

• 10:16Speaker 02

  When you find yourself down like a weird rabbit hole of the internet, like, how did I get here?

• 10:20Chris Williamson?

  Oh, dude. Yeah, I was looking. I was looking at the difference between the Exoputic Exo Work 2000i and the the 1000i. So the one that I ended up going for was the Bluetooth Folding Exercise Desk Bike with 24 workout programs and free app.

• 10:38Chris Williamson?

  That being said, it's one of my favourite purchases of this year. It is absolutely fantastic. The particular one that I went for is a little bit more chunky. It's a little bit more well-built than the one that was below it. Unfortunately, the fact that it's got Bluetooth, that's what it's sold on. But what you actually want to buy it for is it's got a bigger backrest. It's got a bigger seat. They've got this really special airflow seat thing. A lot of the criticisms of the other ones were that after half an hour, it was very painful on your bum. So I wanted one that I knew I could do a long session on. Obviously, if you're trying to accumulate 180 minutes on something per week, that's a good bit of time sat on something. If it's uncomfortable, it's gonna suck.

• 11:18Chris Williamson?

  It's a magnetic drive, so it's completely silent when you're turning over. So if you are on calls or if you're doing anything else, no one can hear. On top of that, the magnetic resistance, which is linked to your phone, because everything needs Bluetooth, including your exercise desk. The magnetic resistance, if you turn it up to level 24, which is the highest it goes, is like a 10% gradient. It is unbelievably hard. There's no way you could work whilst doing that. It's like a max effort, RPE8 cycle. Long story short, it links in with your Whoop strap, so it'll broadcast your heart rate from your Whoop strap to the app and track distance, calories, all of that stuff linked in with this.

• 12:01Chris Williamson?

  It'll give you total calories burned and total time spent on the bike per week. It'll give you that in the app as well. So I'm actually quite glad that I did get the one with Bluetooth. And I think in a week, last week, I ended up accumulating 3,000 calories burned just while I was sat, turning over, answering emails, taking a few calls. I do find it quite hard to do anything more cognitively demanding than scheduling and simple email replies. Even a slightly complex phone call where I'm having to do a bit of cognition is a bit much. But all in all, really, really happy with it. It was $350.

• 12:41Chris Williamson?

  So the one that I'm talking about is the only one that you could get. I think you can only get this in. America, which is unfortunate. There is an equivalent one in the UK, which has a backrest to it as well. And I bought my dad that for his birthday. It was the closest one that I could get. There's only one in the UK that has a backrest. That's the one to go for. Main reason being that you've got a slightly more sort of, rather than an upright seated position, you're a little bit more sat back, you know, like those, the ones that you'll get in a David Lloyd's gym and the, the foot pedals are away from you and you kind of sat down and there's handles either side. It's a little bit more like that. Uh, if you want to get more zone two cardio in, or if you spend a lot of time working from home and you want to get a bit more calorie expenditure.

• 13:24Chris Williamson?

  The Exoputic Exo Work 2000i is what to go for.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  I'm really glad that you've given me picked that because I, I've seen those and I always thought, ah, it's one of those things that could end up becoming a, a new like drying rack in your house. So it's great to know that it doesn't interrupt calls and because you're right, like zone two is very hard to achieve on your feet because it's kind of an uphill walk. And you, you can't really design a route where you're only walking uphill unless you live in Edinburgh, where it's like an Escher painting and everything's uphill. So yeah, it's brilliant. I think I'm going to get one.

• 13:59Jonny?

  I'm sold. Yeah, I'm sold on one. Yeah.

• 14:01Chris Williamson?

  They, I honestly, I, I, it's rare because you, you're totally right. It's the sort of thing that you would end up looking at, researching, getting excited about buying and then going, oh, fuck, you shouldn't have got that. But it kind of, the only way that this could go wrong is if it's not sufficiently comfortable or if there was some issue with the biomechanics of how it fits your particular frame, because you're.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  But when they add Bluetooth, it's like, oh, it's got the wrong Bluetooth version and it can't connect to the thing or.

• 14:29Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, maybe. Even with that, they have foolproofed that as well because there's a LCD screen that allows you to do that. Now, it might be worth, uh, everybody emailing Exoputic Exo Work and seeing if they'll ship to the UK because that is the one.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Crowdsource the pressure.

• 14:46Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. That being said though, the version that I got my dad was a hundred and 20 quid. It's a hundred and twenty pounds for this and it's got the top and it's got a wrist rest so that you can actually lean on it a little bit while you're working away.

• 15:02Jonny?

  And what's it missing? The Bluetooth piece?

• 15:04Chris Williamson?

  It's basically a completely different, it's the same looking construction, but I can't vouch for the seat quality. I can't vouch for the build. I can't vouch for, you know, most of the, most of the stuff.

• 15:13Jonny?

  I think hundred and twenty quid drops it into like a level where you buy it. And if it doesn't work, it's like, not like, oh God, where, you know, you start moving towards 500 quid. It starts to get like a, you better use that.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  To be honest, I'm surprised it was the, the low side of 500 quid. I thought it would be in the thousands.

• 15:30Chris Williamson?

  Me too. Yeah. Me too.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Which makes me worried because I think a hundred and twenty quid, is it going to be rickety? Like, could you be halfway through an email and you just fall off?

• 15:38Jonny?

  I think that's just not the demand for them yet.

• 15:40Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 15:40Jonny?

  I bet in a couple, well, after this episode, there's a little.

• 15:44Chris Williamson?

  Well, there'll be a link. I'll try, I'll, I'll find the one for the UK that I got my dad and I'll put that in the show notes. And I'll put the Experatic Exo Work 2000i and I'll throw that in the, in the show notes as well. But yeah, I'm.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Put the email address of the founder so that we can all, we can all hammer them.

• 16:00Chris Williamson?

  So you can harass them. I think if you can't find one, or if you end up finding that the, the version that you get is uncomfortable, the general rule of some form of exercise,

• 16:12Chris Williamson?

  bike treadmill thing at your desk for doing work in, it makes emails. I genuinely look forward to doing my emails because I get two amounts of satisfaction off the other side of it. I'm like, yeah, it's, I gotta do 60 minutes of sitting down and replying to people, but I'm going to burn 400 calories, 500, maybe 450 calories in that hour. Pretty good. Pretty bloody.

• 16:37Jonny?

  Kind of a nice way to batch it as well, right? It's like you've created the time, unless you're just going to cycle indefinitely. Like, but when you stop, like by the time I stopped cycling, I should have cleared my emails.

• 16:47Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 16:48Jonny?

  Quite a nice rule to have.

• 16:49Chris Williamson?

  Pretty good. Right, Johan, what you got?

• 16:52Jonny?

  Right. I've never seen you that excited about a life hack, by the way.

• 16:55Chris Williamson?

  It's, this is my favorite list. This is my favorite list of ones that I've done.

• 17:00Jonny?

  Okay. Mine just feels so shit in comparison, but here we go.

• 17:04Chris Williamson?

  Bring it in.

• 17:06Jonny?

  So that, so this is surreal cereal.

• 17:10Jonny?

  So it is a cereal brand called Surreal, S U R R E A L.

• 17:15Chris Williamson?

  Right.

• 17:15Jonny?

  Now, there's, there's loads of these cropping up now. Like when I first found these, it's because Tim Ferriss mentions a brand at the start of his podcast. I did for a while. I can't remember the name of it, but it's like a low calorie. Yes, low calorie, low carb, technically, I think keto friendly cereal, a lot of big names behind it. I was like, that sounds class.

• 17:34Chris Williamson?

  You look at it. Very nice.

• 17:35Jonny?

  Yeah, I bet. You can only get it, or you could only get it in the US.

• 17:39Chris Williamson?

  They ship internationally now, but it's kind of, it's, well.

• 17:42Jonny?

  Quite pricey.

• 17:42Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 17:42Jonny?

  So this stuff's not cheap either. But this at the time was the only brand in the UK that I could find that was reasonably priced, that looked nice. So I ordered like, I think I ordered like eight boxes.

• 17:55Jonny?

  Yeah. It's really like, it's, it's the same sort of thing as like a grenade bar, right? A grenade bar to a Mars bar. You can kind of tell that it's higher in protein and lower in sugar and all that sort of stuff. But if you're mixing it with things like a Kevag, like a white chocolate pudding thing, whatever, what are they? It's not pudding, it's not yogurt, so you know what I mean? Or into something, it's just great. Cause it's the, it's the crunch of cereal without the calories of cereal. And I really enjoy it.

• 18:28Chris Williamson?

  What are the best flavors that you got?

• 18:32Jonny?

  So there is one, which is, I think peanut butter, which obviously I couldn't get. Otherwise I would have had to go to hospital. So I tried chocolate, which is not that nice. Normally my rule is always get chocolate flavor, cause it's always flavored with chocolate. Not in this case. The, like the sugared, like the frosted one is the nicest one by far and away. So like the Frosties equivalent.

• 18:57Jonny?

  I don't really know what it's, I don't think it's, it's not coated with sugar, but it's coated with something that tastes like sugar, so.

• 19:04Jonny?

  It's great.

• 19:04Chris Williamson?

  Good enough for me.

• 19:05Jonny?

  Surreal.

• 19:06Chris Williamson?

  Surreal. Well, the.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  I would like to just highlight this little nugget of wisdom that Johnny's just dropped on the side there of always go for chocolate flavour rather than something mad.

• 19:18Jonny?

  I think that's been a previous lighthouse.

• 19:20Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, I think it is.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  Possibly because flavoured with the chocolate, probably except if it's some kind of health product where they they try and jimmy it by saying it's low carb or whatever, because then they'll end up using like carob extracts rather than actual cocoa.

• 19:35Jonny?

  Funny enough, I think there's no cocoa in the, exactly as you called it.

• 19:40Chris Williamson?

  In the chocolate.

• 19:41Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 19:41Chris Williamson?

  Well, I mean, I think anything now, the food industry is catching up to what bros have been jerry-rigging for the last decade and a half, you know, when you'd make protein pancakes, but they would be awful because you would have just poured some impact weight over the top of pancakes and gone, well, this this surely can't make any difference. And they come out and it tastes terrible and it looks terrible and the consistency is awful and it's all powdery and stuff. But yeah, I mean, magic spoon, I've had that a good bit in America and high, high protein cereal. Here's the other thing as well that I loved about it. It's not just the high protein. High protein thing's good, but it's the reduction in the amount of sugar and carbs that you get in it. Because I find the sort of size of bowl

• 20:24Chris Williamson?

  of cereal that I imagine you eat, Jonathan, will be similar to the ones that me and Yusuf do, which is an industrial sized bowl.

• 20:33Jonny?

  It's not a 30 gram serving.

• 20:34Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 20:35Jonny?

  Is it?

• 20:35Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. Yeah. Who eats? That's that's completely insane. When you do that, I get usually about an hour afterward, I get a bit of a slump. I can feel information going a little bit and I get that sort of tingly feeling around the, and I'm just like, ah, my sugar's like my blood sugar.

• 20:50Jonny?

  I imagine your forearms look like they're about the best.

• 20:53Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, very turgid. Yusuf, my suit for Johnny's wedding is having to get sized up exclusively because it doesn't fit on the forearms.

• 21:01Jonny?

  Literally.

• 21:03Jonny?

  I was challenged to pinch, pinch a centimetre of material and I couldn't do it.

• 21:08Chris Williamson?

  Couldn't get anything, like the skin of a balloon.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  It's, we've described it as one of those old water snakes that you used to get from the pound shop.

• 21:15Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 21:17Chris Williamson?

  Right, surreal cereal. Is there, there must be some sort of discount intro-y scenario, is there?

• 21:24Jonny?

  I'm not sure. I can have a look. I don't think there is.

• 21:27Chris Williamson?

  Someone will be able to snide. Go on the website. I'm sure you'll be able to snide it. Right, Yusuf, what have you got?

• 21:32Speaker 02

  So I've actually been doing some thinking about the way that I broadly categorize life hacks and I've kind of landed on a categorization system that's basically physical and digital. So I've given you a physical one. What follows is a digital.

• 21:51Jonny?

  Is it Alfred?

• 21:53Speaker 02

  So it is to appify a website. So we've probably done this, the three of us, but most people don't know that if there's a website that you frequently visit and you'd prefer, and it's got, you know, mobile friendly, but you'd prefer to be able to access it from your home screen, press the little share button, which looks like a square with an arrow coming out of it, or it'll look like a phallic symbol if you're using Android.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  And you can then say add to home screen and it'll generate what's functionally an app on your home screen. So it avoids you having to go like into Safari and find the thing or press on your favorites. So we do that with our program that we, that we teach coaches to, to package their services online with. And you can do it with any website.

• 22:43Chris Williamson?

  I'm right in thinking, at least on iPhone, it displays in a different way as well. It goes into kind of a full screen, a more full screen mode, I think.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, it doesn't show the address bar. So it just gives you a full screen experience.

• 22:56Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. So I mean, if you use a website for coaching, what your coach sends you for programming and stuff like that, I mean, everybody needs to be using, I'm pretty sure that that was exactly what I used to use it for before Ron one had an app. I remember that I was using that for the precise same thing.

• 23:14Jonny?

  It's just like, and it's also like bookmarks that you frequently visit. It's such a simple way of having them on your home screen.

• 23:20Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. Even if it wasn't the increased screen size, just the ease of access hitting them on the home screen. Yeah, that is nice. Uh, right. Okay. So this was sent in by Eric Jorgensen, the guy that wrote the Navalmanac. And you guys may be familiar with this. Pro tip, if you cancel your Zoom subscription, they'll offer you 30% off your renewal price immediately.

• 23:46Jonny?

  I didn't know that.

• 23:47Chris Williamson?

  Takes 30 seconds.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  I'm not sure how I feel about that as a, as a business model because they're then rewarding that well that they're penalizing loyal customers, aren't they?

• 24:00Chris Williamson?

  Retention's the name of the game, baby. You know this. Clicks it clicks.

• 24:04Jonny?

  I wonder how, I wonder how long we'll keep that running for.

• 24:07Chris Williamson?

  Maybe, well, I mean, something tells me that even the volume of people that are going to go and try and cancel their Zoom subscription after this is going to be a dent in, do you remember during the pandemic when a Chinese, a Chinese company called Zoom, their stock price increased by 150% due to people buying the wrong Zoom company?

• 24:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  Incredible. That would have been a scary moment for the, the CEO and the board members.

• 24:36Chris Williamson?

  Fuck it all.

• 24:41Jonny?

  I remember hearing a similar thing with Deliveroo and Deliveroo was new where you could like, I never did this, full disclaimer, but you could, I think someone on the, on this podcast told me about it. When the delivery arrived, you could say.

• 24:56Chris Williamson?

  Claim that none of the items were available in the order. And if it was under £50, they would instantly give you your money back without investigating. So James, James, who used to work for us, this still works, by the way. James, who worked for us, cycled between Deliveroo and Uber Eats, using the exact same thing. Ordering lunch off one, dinner off the other. When it arrived, something's wrong with my order. What's wrong? Items are missing. Which items? All items. Make sure that his order was under £50 and they would just instantly refund him. He's now banned from Deliveroo for life. He can't, they, they won't give him an account.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Stealing from restaurants in sequence.

• 25:33Chris Williamson?

  Because it, it comes off, I'm pretty sure Deliveroo just pay it straight out. But yeah, he accumulated weeks and weeks and weeks of food doing this.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Fill it steak for lunch and stuff.

• 25:43Chris Williamson?

  Correct. Yes.

• 25:44Jonny?

  I imagine delivery pay the restaurant. It'll be delivery that's losing out.

• 25:48Chris Williamson?

  Yes.

• 25:48Jonny?

  I would have thought.

• 25:49Chris Williamson?

  So I think, but yeah, if you go to cancel your Zoom subscription, they'll offer you 30% off your renewal price and it takes 30 seconds. Thank you, Eric. Johnny?

• 25:58Jonny?

  It's you.

• 25:59Chris Williamson?

  That was me.

• 26:00Jonny?

  Oh, no, that was you.

• 26:01Chris Williamson?

  Yes.

• 26:01Jonny?

  Goodness me. Um, so this one, I didn't think was a hack, but I've mentioned it to a few people and each person I mentioned it to hadn't heard of it. So I'm hoping I don't get absolutely shot down with this. So if you have Amazon Prime and you order something which is next day delivery, once you've ordered it, you can go into orders, like my orders, the order, and then select, just change it from free next day to free rush shipping. And then it just arrives a couple of hours later instead of the following day. So there are certain things that come, that just have the availability to be for no extra charge to just arrive before 10pm.

• 26:46Chris Williamson?

  Is that not available before editing the order?

• 26:50Jonny?

  You can do it after ordering. Sometimes it's available before editing.

• 26:56Chris Williamson?

  Yes.

• 26:56Jonny?

  And there are some things where it'll say before 10pm. But on quite a few things, if there's next day available, there is also rush available. So I've had things arrive.

• 27:06Speaker 02

  There's a, there's like a red klaxon and light, like the panic button that goes off in the warehouses when someone does that. And they go, oh, quick. And the guy like runs over and stuffs it into his pocket and like gets on his scooter and flies over to your house.

• 27:20Jonny?

  I, I, I've had stuff delivered from Amazon using this process that it, that it arrived in less time than it would have taken me to go out to a shop and buy and come back to the house.

• 27:28Chris Williamson?

  What's the quickest that something's arrived, do you think, from order to arrival?

• 27:33Jonny?

  Within 90 minutes.

• 27:36Chris Williamson?

  That's crazy.

• 27:36Jonny?

  For like food based things. So I had a bag of coffee beans delivered 90 minutes after I ordered them.

• 27:42Chris Williamson?

  Wow.

• 27:43Jonny?

  So you two clearly didn't know about that. So I'm, I'm, that's a big one. Like I use that all the time.

• 27:48Chris Williamson?

  Really?

• 27:48Jonny?

  It's so good. Yeah.

• 27:50Chris Williamson?

  Well, when do you order stuff that you need within hours?

• 27:53Jonny?

  It's little, it's little things like, um,

• 27:56Chris Williamson?

  Batteries or whatever.

• 27:57Jonny?

  Whiteboard pens, batteries.

• 27:58Chris Williamson?

  Right.

• 27:58Jonny?

  Golf balls.

• 27:59Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 28:00Jonny?

  Like things that, things that I'm like, oh, fuck, I really could do with those by tomorrow morning. I know.

• 28:06Chris Williamson?

  Don't need to wait till tomorrow morning.

• 28:07Jonny?

  Get them by 10pm.

• 28:07Chris Williamson?

  Today. Yeah, America has some of that, they don't call it rush over there, but where you can designate a time today. Join it from seven until 11, 11 until three or three until seven today. And that's, that's pretty enjoyable.

• 28:24Jonny?

  On Amazon?

• 28:25Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 28:26Jonny?

  I'm still waiting for drone delivery.

• 28:28Chris Williamson?

  There's, so in Austin at the moment, there are these little robot fridges, it looks like a little robot fridge. Are there some in the UK? Have these been around?

• 28:36Speaker 02

  Milton Keynes.

• 28:38Chris Williamson?

  Right, yeah, so it's a little robot that's got food in it, it does food delivery and it, it stops at the side of roads and waits for traffic to go by and the light to change and it just delivers your food.

• 28:51Jonny?

  And it's Amazon?

• 28:52Chris Williamson?

  No, no, something else, some other service.

• 28:55Jonny?

  Amazon, do you have those shops where like, there's no staff in the shop and you go in?

• 28:59Chris Williamson?

  Go.

• 28:59Jonny?

  Yeah, you go in, just picks up and it knows what you picked up and it bills you.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  I feel really uncomfortable, wouldn't it?

• 29:04Chris Williamson?

  There's a bunch of videos online, trying to shoplift in Amazon Go.

• 29:10Jonny?

  Like both going in in the same time or something like that?

• 29:13Chris Williamson?

  I don't, I haven't seen them, I've just seen them pop up on my, right, free rush shipping after ordering on Amazon Prime. Dude, I like that, especially if it's, especially if it's not available. So the saving money thing is, is good, but if it's not available when you go on and yet it is available upon editing, that's a genuine hack. This is why, for the people whose first life hacks this is, this is what we're here for. It's the peak artist backend time, like it, it only works in one millionth of a, of a times like operation. And yet we're very excited about it.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  And what you guys don't see is the thousands of life hacks that didn't make it to this table, all the failed stuff.

• 29:55Chris Williamson?

  If you think these are shit, imagine how bad the ones that didn't get on here are.

• 30:02Jonny?

  It's the things that we're too embarrassed to bring up.

• 30:05Chris Williamson?

  Yes.

• 30:06Jonny?

  Because they're so weird. That's the real life axler.

• 30:08Chris Williamson?

  The Viagra hammer that didn't work. Yeah.

• 30:11Jonny?

  The after hours list.

• 30:14Chris Williamson?

  Right, Youssef, what you got?

• 30:16Speaker 02

  This is one that I originally was made aware of by Tim Ferriss's mate who loves foiling and goes on to his podcast and talks to him about foiling for three hours. I forgot his name. So it's actually based on a modality of psychotherapy known as internal family systems. And the idea is that you are not a single personality, a single unit of consciousness. You are multiple sub personalities that are frozen in time at different stages of your life, depending on what happened in your life. And they run certain scripts in response to stimuli that you're exposed to.

• 30:53Speaker 02

  And so they have different roles in your psyche and they are to protect you or to keep you safe or happy or whatever it is. And so it's a technique for if your mind is rushing and you're you're lying in bed, for example, and you've got loads of stuff going on, is to do the board member exercise, the boardroom. So you imagine that you are at the head of a table, you're sat at the boardroom, you're wearing the suit. And then there's loads of different versions of you sat around the table. And the these versions of you represent different domains of your life. So you could have the finance version of you that's got the the accountant's hat and the cigar.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  And you've got the fitness version of you that's in the gymshark sort of cute onesie thing. And you've got the work version of you that's in your work gear and all these different things. And you just go around the table and you say, right, everyone else shut up. You tell me what's on your mind. You've got five minutes. Everyone has to stop and listen. And then you let them speak. And then when they're done, you go, okay, are you finished? Yeah, brilliant. Move on to the next one and just work your way around. And it sounds silly, but it is the most relaxing thing that you could do. Because you squeeze the lemon of all these like little voices that are trying to be heard in your mind, but aren't being given the full airtime.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  And afterwards, your mind is so quiet. You're just like, oh, and it lasts for, like the last time I did it, I think I had probably about 48 hours of deep quiet afterwards.

• 32:29Chris Williamson?

  Wow.

• 32:31Jonny?

  It's not like a daily thing. You wouldn't do it every day, or would you?

• 32:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can do. It depends how deep you want to go.

• 32:38Chris Williamson?

  You mentioned that this is a good technique for when your mind is feeling a bit of overwhelm specifically.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, very good for that. I think the ultimate use case is if you're, you know, when you're lying in bed and for some reason, or you feel like you've had too much caffeine or whatever, and your mind's just going,

• 32:57Speaker 02

  you can't even make sense of all the voices. And I think people are afraid of this kind of technique because they think, oh, well, I've not got multiple personality disorder. I'm not psychotic. But I think if you can just accept that, like, just humor the voices inside for a moment and don't worry about that as a thing.

• 33:15Chris Williamson?

  I want, I do want to highlight upfront that past performance may not be an indicator of future profits with someone like Yusef because of the amount of time that he's spent meditating. I do feel like all of this Sedona method that you've done, releasing different strategy, I think that this probably enables you to maybe get disproportionate returns.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  Possibly, yeah. Like, you know, you have to, it does require concentration. And there is also a sense of like, you've got to just kind of, even like when you start doing it, you'll be like, oh, this is silly. I'm just making it up here. But that's okay. Because if you're making it up, like, it's what comes to mind, came to mind for a reason. So that's still valid.

• 34:01Chris Williamson?

  How many sessions did you need to do before it didn't feel silly?

• 34:06Speaker 02

  To be honest, on the first one. Because I was just like, I'm just gonna commit to the method. So just dive in, take handballs, and you'll be okay.

• 34:15Chris Williamson?

  Very nice. Okay.

• 34:16Jonny?

  I'm gonna give that a go on my desk.

• 34:19Chris Williamson?

  Oh, one final thing. How do you choose who sits around the table?

• 34:25Speaker 02

  That's a good question. I think it's the key domains of your life or like you could just stop and listen as an open, open listening and be like, okay, who's, what are the main voices? And then if someone else wants to join as well, you can be like, oh yeah, sorry, we forgot about you. You come and join the table too. Just a safety announcement as well. Like if you've got a history of psychosis, or if you feel like there's, there's going to be some traumatic stuff that's bubbled up, then you know, do this under the guidance of a psychotherapist in a safe environment.

• 34:54Chris Williamson?

  It's nearly been a year since you were working as a doctor and yet the medical practitioner still emerges very so often when required. Yeah, cool. Okay. So I've been flying an awful lot recently, which is good. I love adventures and COVID was terrible for that, obviously. I gave a life hack, I think on the last one, which was gate, is it D3 in Amsterdam Airport is the only gate which has seats that don't have bars in between the seats. So you can go and have a lie down if you're stuck.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  That is a brilliant life hack.

• 35:26Chris Williamson?

  Yep. That's what we're here for. Peak autism. Now, there's two here that I'm going to piece together. Reason being, I have been completely fucked in the ass a number of times by the slow resurgence of capacity within flights. However, the unwillingness of airlines to reduce down the number of flights that they send out. So this is just causing delays across America. Anybody that's flown cross-country within America knows exactly what I'm talking about. Flights are being delayed. Then they do have some pretty intense weather, which can cause some really huge problems. Apparently, the main two issues, first one's pilots, but the second one is the crew of people, the luggage loaders. There

• 36:08Chris Williamson?

  is just nowhere near enough staff to deal with the volume. People want to go back on holiday, but you can't just create the staff to give the capacity for people to go on holiday. So my first piece of advice, when looking at flights, especially through a site like Skyscanner, which everybody should be using as a, at least a beginning to have a look at it, reduce the number of connections that you have in order to stop delays. So a lot of the time you can't go direct, but sometimes you can make a choice between one and two connections. Now, the one connection may end up being a little bit longer, a little bit shorter. My flight back to Austin is five minutes longer, despite the fact that it has one fewer connection when I returned than the version that I did on the way back. The problem being,

• 36:52Chris Williamson?

  The more flights that you rely on, the greater likelihood there is of you encountering one of those being delayed, which has a knock on effect to miss the remainder. Really, really bad idea. So just by reducing that down, you reduce your exposure to different flights. Like, let's say there's a 10% chance of the flight being delayed. If you go for two instead of three, that's a good idea. This also ties in with another one, which is super important for flying internationally, and I'm using for America specifically, pick flights which immigrate at your destination. If you pick a flight which enters the country, and then you have a connecting flight from that airport onward, American immigration specifically is an absolute pain in the ass. And you will wait, and no one is going to

• 37:36Chris Williamson?

  help. You're not going to get to the front of the line because your flight leaves in two hours. That's not the way that it works. You will wait, and there will be a very grumpy looking African American woman who does not care about the fact that you need to leave to get to Miami or whatever it is. So those two things, obviously, you want to optimize for what's the best time of departure, and what's the price, and if I have upgrades, or if I want to get upgrades and stuff. But I think reduce connections to avoid delays, and pick flights which immigrate at the city destination that you're going to. Even if you arrive just after a huge flights got in from Houston or something like that, it doesn't matter. You're at the back of the queue. Yeah, it's going to suck. But the degree

• 38:18Chris Williamson?

  of anxiety that you have whilst wondering, am I going to miss my next flight to get to the next place? And then the downstream impact of that, especially if you're going on holiday, you're only on holiday for seven days or something, and you end up staying over another day. Yeah, those are both important.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  That's a really good application of the broader principle of like, don't expect everything to go smoothly according to plan. Because if you line up all of your dominos, assuming that it's going to go absolutely textbook, like the same as the reason that Johnny and I are always late is because we fall foul to this. We assume that there'll be no traffic on the roads. And because once we made it from our house into the centre of town in seven minutes.

• 38:57Chris Williamson?

  Therefore, it's a seven minute journey. No, it's not. On average, it's a 14 minute journey.

• 39:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:05Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. Johnny?

• 39:05Speaker 02

  Good tips.

• 39:10Jonny?

  So I, well, because Chris keeps sort of nudging me to go back on to it, keep using a whip band.

• 39:16Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 39:17Jonny?

  And I've been back on a, I don't know how long I've been using it for, but I, I, I'm always looking for things that improve my sleep, basically, just because that is, I'm sure we've all experienced the like, the night and day difference, when you have, when you have a good night's sleep. I, I think when Yusuf tested them a couple of years ago, I bought some blue blocking glasses, some of the really extreme ones, like the wraparound, red, not, not orange, seemed really extreme, got nothing out of them, didn't notice any difference, not, no change in whoop, whoop data.

• 39:51Jonny?

  Then read a lot of stuff online and Yusuf mentioned about, there we go, about, so this might be upsetting for you, Chris.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  Chris has got some that actually look nice, rather than.

• 40:00Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  Which are proper.

• 40:01Jonny?

  Minor extreme. So Yusuf chat to a guy who runs a company that makes these things and knows a lot about them and was talking about how many of these products are just red, plastic and don't actually block blue light. So I then bought some, some proper ones and looked into, like, how do you validate whether these are legit or not? Cause you put them on and they kind of, they kind of seem different. There's a few tests you can do if you Google it, there's a few tests you can do where you look at images on screens and it'll tell you like, this should look like this, if it's blocking the blue light, this should look grey, this should look dark. The ones that are actually blue blocking glasses make such a difference. It, it's unbelievable, like 10 minutes after putting them on, I can feel this like down

• 40:44Jonny?

  regulation and whoops, like 10% increase in rem when I wear them.

• 40:50Chris Williamson?

  Wow.

• 40:50Jonny?

  So getting some proper.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  It's so annoying to know that you've been wasting time with the other ones, isn't it?

• 40:55Jonny?

  Stuff is pointless, walking around the house, looking like an idiot, Becca making fun of me and they're just not even doing anything anyway, but now.

• 41:02Chris Williamson?

  He's gonna be married to you soon, man. Once, well, once that's the case, you can just get the cane out, can't you?

• 41:08Jonny?

  Well, then I walk around in the full biohacking equipment.

• 41:11Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, like Ben Greenfield.

• 41:12Jonny?

  All the stuff.

• 41:12Speaker 02

  Mouth taped, red glasses on.

• 41:15Chris Williamson?

  What brands did you end up going for, Johnny?

• 41:18Jonny?

  It's the, Yusuf knows the name of it. I can't remember the.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  So the, the brand is called Block Blue Light and I can, I can vouch. So I've got a kettle that has blue LEDs when you turn it on and it's, it's bright. When you have the glasses on, you can't tell if the kettle's on or not. Like it's that powerful. So.

• 41:35Chris Williamson?

  These are, if, if Block Blue Light don't look right to you, these are Ra Optics, R A Optics, owned by a guy called Matt Maruka, who's also been on the show previously. Uh, they do these, which are the yellows and they also do a red pair. I mean, these are $300. So they're.

• 41:50Jonny?

  They, they hopefully they block blue light.

• 41:52Chris Williamson?

  Uh, he's, Matt's, Matt's at the forefront of, of all of this sort of light and stuff. That being said, Andrew Huberman, optometrist at Stanford and stuff, he is pretty adamant that blue blocking glasses will maybe net you small increases, but compared with making sure you get sufficient sunlight throughout the day, including early morning light and ideally some on an evening. Those, that's the, that's your macros and training and wearing blue blocking light glasses on a nighttime is optimizing the creatine dose. So making sure that you're getting sufficient sunlight exposure, because one of the things that happens, especially in the winter time, I learned.

• 42:32Chris Williamson?

  If people spend most of their day in dark rooms, looking at screens, their sensitivity to light generally gets tuned up because they haven't seen any outdoor light. So what you want to try and do is get it to the stage where your screen on an evening is a small percentage of the light that's been viewed throughout the day. At least that's how I, I thought it seemed to be explained to me.

• 42:55Jonny?

  So as in you should just use fewer screens.

• 42:57Chris Williamson?

  You should, you should get more exposure to daylight, work in front of a, work in front of a large window, ideally where you can open it at least a little bit, because there's certain types of light that gets filtered through that.

• 43:07Jonny?

  Yeah. I mean, in the morning, like since I've heard the Andrew Huberman advice on that, like it's such basic things, like just go for a walk first thing in the morning.

• 43:15Chris Williamson?

  Minutes, that's it.

• 43:16Jonny?

  Makes such a difference. The, the, the glasses for me is, is like a, because in the evening, I imagine you two are probably the same. Like I don't really read a book. I'll, I'll sit and watch TV generally. Like we'll sit and watch a series or something and I don't really want to stop that.

• 43:31Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 43:31Jonny?

  So this was a way of, of like. Kind of not making, I can, I don't quite feel as bad about it. I can still do it. It doesn't seem to impact my sleep.

• 43:40Chris Williamson?

  Well, I think a big part of it, at least I would maybe guess, 5% of the 10% improvement that you see will be from the story that you tell yourself

• 43:50Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 43:50Chris Williamson?

  about what watching TV on an evening time means and how guilty and the expectation effect. But the problem is, the expectation effect is so robust, you can't get around it by not, you're expecting it. So you need to do a thing that you are sufficiently bought into in order to be able to believe that it actually works.

• 44:07Jonny?

  It's just a shame that the original ones that were far cheaper, that actually didn't block blue light, didn't give me that gain. Like, they clearly gave me a bit of it.

• 44:15Chris Williamson?

  Cheap and shit, that's why.

• 44:16Jonny?

  I suppose maybe I had a couple of nights where it didn't really help and I'm like, I've lost my trust in these.

• 44:21Chris Williamson?

  Seth.

• 44:21Jonny?

  But, yeah.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Digital one. So there's a browser extension called Hush. There's another one called Stop the Madness, depending on your preference. Both of them stop the internet from being so annoying to use. You know, when you go on a website and there's like five pop-ups, you have to accept the cookies, but you can't just accept or reject. You have to go into the like sub settings and say, no, no, reject or whatever. And then there's like another thing and, and then you can't click on this because there's a, there's another Google ad pop-up. And it just gets rid of all the, the noise and just allows you to see what you want to see on a website. And the guy who's designed it has clearly developed it out of pure fury with using annoying websites.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  And he's really, the, the guy who wrote Stop the Madness is really committed to his mission.

• 45:11Jonny?

  So it blocks ads, basically, or like any additional?

• 45:14Speaker 02

  It's not just ads, it's, it's all the surrounding stuff that, so you know, Tom Scott? The, he's like a nerdy British guy. You will have seen him. He's always like, this is the most dangerous crossing in the UK. And I'm out here in Lancashire and where this has been 34 collisions. So he does all these kind of like documentary stuff, but he's got a very good video about why the internet has become so annoying to use. And a lot of it's to do with GDPR and additional regulation that's not really practical.

• 45:44Jonny?

  Like pop-ups and interruptions and that sort of thing.

• 45:46Chris Williamson?

  That's interesting that in order to protect users' data, they've had to make the user experience significantly worse.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a weird trade off, isn't it?

• 45:59Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. Okay. So Hush or Stop the Madness extension for Chrome. Right. This is one that turned into two that turned into three. And they're all about Spotify. So first up is share Spotify podcasts with the timestamp. Have you seen this?

• 46:15Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 46:16Chris Williamson?

  Not that new. So Christian Hoar sent this in about a year ago. And I never got around to using it. And yet now it's the same as copy a video at URL at time from YouTube. You go on to the use the proper share function on Spotify for a podcast. You press the share thing and it'll come up. And if you are playing partway into it, it'll say either share, or you can toggle a slider to the side and say share from time. It means that if you're listening to a section on a podcast that you absolutely adore, you don't need to screen record it and then try and send someone the screen recording and send them that link. It'll open up in Spotify in app from WhatsApp or iMessage or whatever.

• 46:58Chris Williamson?

  And it'll open at the exact timestamp that you're talking about. So I mean, that's brilliant. Just great.

• 47:03Speaker 02

  This is what podcasts are missing because they're not a social feature. And I think adding in bit like, I know there's a few apps that like snipped and things that are starting to try and make podcasts social again. But I'm glad that it's become a native feature as well.

• 47:19Chris Williamson?

  Frankly, I think that audio just continues when it comes to the virality that just continue to get eaten alive by video. When you can consume the same content, when people can share a video clip of one of the hacks that we're talking about here that has the video. How is it going to pay? It's literally just going to be outcompeted by the audio version. It's always going to get eaten alive by that. So that's the first one. The second one is Spotify for podcasts generally, which has been an ongoing discussion between the three of us for forever. We all listen to a lot of podcasts. I think me and Johnny were very much team Apple podcasts for a long time. It was native. It allowed a bunch of different like subscriptions. It had pop ups and notifications

• 48:00Chris Williamson?

  that were well done. You had an increased number of options through Siri. However, I am of the opinion that Spotify is the daddy, the king daddy.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Here we go.

• 48:14Chris Williamson?

  When it can, which I know that you've said, so this is a repeat. This is why I was happy to do three in a row, because I know that you've already brought this up probably two years ago.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  But in fairness, though, like whenever I can, I will always do my damnedest to stay within the Apple ecosystem and I'll try and use Apple Notes and Apple Calendar and Apple Reminders. And it's only when Apple make it so difficult to stay within that, like Apple Music and Apple Podcasts, they're just rubbish. Like, I tried and Spotify is

• 48:40Chris Williamson?

  just like, hey, we're over here. Don't forget, we do this, we do this for a living. More people are going to be listening to this right now on Apple Podcasts than on Spotify. But every month, the

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Not anymore.

• 48:52Chris Williamson?

  Well, I would love to bring people over, but the proportion of people listening on Spotify is increasing month on month. I think that shows like Call Her Daddy and Rogan have obviously been a big part of, and it was such a smart move, behaviourally, let's change people by forcing them onto the app. And then we need to, obviously they had to make sure that the actual app itself was sufficiently good, but it was. I mean, what are the things that I really like? I don't like the fact that you don't have a feed of most recently updated episodes that's done in a very easy way. That was a great element that Apple Podcasts have that I hope Spotify brings across where you could just see all of the shows that have most recently uploaded and then you can decide, oh, which one would I like to get from here? It would be great if they

• 49:35Chris Williamson?

  limited the notifications. I don't want to be notified every time that Memphis May Fire releases a new song, but I do want to be notified every time that perhaps certain podcasts upload, maybe ones that don't have a regular upload schedule like Rogan perhaps. You know, if it's every Monday, Thursday or Saturday, you know, there's a Modern Wisdom episode, but you might, Rogan just sort of throws them at the wall. So like, that would be cool if you could select particular artists or podcasts and shows. But generally, I think the, not without talking too much inside baseball, they've bought Anchor, they've bought Megaphone, they've got the Spotify Advertisers Network, they've got a bunch of things where they've reverse vertically integrated and forward vertically integrated themselves into publishing, into buying podcasts outright. And I think that unless

• 50:20Chris Williamson?

  Apple do something really, really, really impressive, very quickly. I think.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  Well, or aggressive.

• 50:26Chris Williamson?

  Yes.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  Because I think Apple are always trying to like kick Spotify off, aren't they?

• 50:30Chris Williamson?

  Yes. Well, they had that, wasn't it Spotify did an entire campaign about how Apple was making it uncompetitive for them. You couldn't use Siri and you couldn't use a bunch of other stuff.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 50:40Jonny?

  Well, if you buy a home pod, you can't. Yeah, that's so annoying. But the Spotify experience in general, like take podcasts away from it, just for music, their playlists, the Discover Weekly, the Release Radar, the like collection of the annual review they give you, where they like tell you what you played.

• 50:55Chris Williamson?

  Or your rap.

• 50:56Jonny?

  Yeah, like I have, I have years, like going back to like 2015 of like my best of music of each year. Like what a great feature. I didn't even make it.

• 51:03Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 51:03Jonny?

  They just made it for me.

• 51:04Chris Williamson?

  Let me give you my final bit for Spotify here. So you may or may not have seen this. I use my liked songs quite frequently. Main reason being that those, because I'm continuing to update them as I go, they tend to be sort of the ones that I'm obsessing over right now. And even if I'm listening to an entire album, there may be one or two songs from within that album that I love. Now, if you go into your liked songs on Spotify, you will see that there is a little tab at the very top that says Enhance. And if you press Enhance, it will add into the playlist of, which is completely chronological. It'll just throw in every other song or every two or three songs, songs that it thinks you should have

• 51:45Chris Williamson?

  liked, songs that you're listening to frequently, songs that you, you probably would have liked already. And then you have.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  So is that Release Radar turbo? Discover Weekly turbo?

• 51:56Chris Williamson?

  Uh, kind of, I guess. I don't use Release Radar or Discover Weekly. So I think that Release Radar and Discover Weekly will probably be songs that you're not yet familiar with. This liked songs thing is resurfacing songs that you're continuing to play quite frequently, but haven't yet liked. And sure enough, you can go through and you can press, uh, I think it's like left, swipe left or right, and it either likes it and keeps it in, or you can get rid of it because it's, it, you didn't mean to like it and it wasn't supposed to be there. Every single one, every single song that they've put in on Enhance Liked Songs playlist has ended up getting a heart. I'm like, oh, why, why is this, why is the new Luke Coombs first track on his album not in there? I'm listening to that all of the time. So Enhance Liked Songs and it's.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  It's annoying. It makes you feel so predictable.

• 52:39Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 02

  When it's like, damn it. Yeah, you got me again.

• 52:43Jonny?

  There's an extension from that, which is quite similar, which is if you have a playlist that you've made. You can use Playlist Radio. Have you used that before?

• 52:51Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. That happens after you finish an album as well, right?

• 52:54Jonny?

  Yeah, it's by default, but you can force it. So if you go under like your favorites playlist or whatever, or like a best of in the year, it will then just generate things that are similar to it. This is why it's so good. And then it's good for podcasts as well.

• 53:08Chris Williamson?

  Difficult to beat, man.

• 53:08Jonny?

  Such a good, such a good app. I can't see me ever leaving it.

• 53:12Chris Williamson?

  Yo, man.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  Well, so that you can't, that's the problem. So although they complain Apple are anti-competitive, they are anti-competitive in that you can't export your podcast selection to another app. So once you're in Spotify.

• 53:24Chris Williamson?

  What do you mean in terms of the ones that you subscribe to?

• 53:27Speaker 02

  They make it awkward from a, from like an X, you can't export XML or whatever of the things that you've subscribed to or songs that you liked. Maybe they've changed it recently. There's like third-party apps that will like plug into your Spotify and, you know, extract the data. But they make it natively quite hard.

• 53:43Chris Williamson?

  Hmm. I think that that's probably a relatively small use case for people that are using a like VLC media player, custom MP3 download. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  Well, it's just if you want to leave Spotify, if you want to use a different, if you were using Spotify and you wanted to go to Apple, you have to go and manually subscribe to everything again.

• 54:03Jonny?

  I just don't want to do that.

• 54:03Chris Williamson?

  The only people I know that use Apple Music got it for free.

• 54:09Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 54:11Chris Williamson?

  The only people I know.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  That's quite damning, isn't it?

• 54:14Chris Williamson?

  Unfortunate. Johan, what you got?

• 54:16Jonny?

  I have got, um, do either of you still use anything like Focus at Will or Brain FM? Or any like focus music service?

• 54:29Chris Williamson?

  No, but my next, my next life hack is similar.

• 54:33Jonny?

  Okay. Do you remember those?

• 54:34Speaker 02

  I've just got, yeah, I've got a set of like, uh, you know, the 10-hour YouTube videos that are like meditation music or whatever.

• 54:42Jonny?

  So I found recently, and I did this a little bit during the pandemic because I used to work in coffee shops a lot. There's a, there's a selection playlist on YouTube, which is like coffee shop ambience with a little bit of jazz and as though it's raining outside. And I tried, I tried it and honestly, like an hour later, like.

• 55:02Jonny?

  Oh God, where I'm just in this zone.

• 55:05Chris Williamson?

  My inbox is empty. Where have I been?

• 55:07Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 55:08Speaker 02

  That's amazing. What, so you play coffee shop music while you're in the coffee shop?

• 55:11Jonny?

  No, no, no. It's while I'm at home. It's while I'm at home.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 55:14Jonny?

  So it's the sound, it's like the ambience, the ambiance of a coffee shop. And there's like someone saying like, hey, can I have a Venti Ladday?

• 55:22Chris Williamson?

  Oh, including orders?

• 55:24Jonny?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 55:25Chris Williamson?

  Oh my God, they're really committed. Have they got the chinking of porcelain?

• 55:29Jonny?

  Honestly, you hear the coffee, you hear the coffee machine going, like the milk being frothed. There's a little bit of jazz and it's raining outside. And you would think that's too much, that would be distracting, but there's something about that. Obviously it might just be me, but there's something about that.

• 55:41Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 55:42Jonny?

  Yeah, but it's so helpful.

• 55:44Chris Williamson?

  What's it called?

• 55:46Jonny?

  So there's a, I have the link, the actual link to the one that I use. So I'll just give you that.

• 55:50Chris Williamson?

  Cool. That'll be in the show notes below, dude.

• 55:53Chris Williamson?

  If that's, if that's what gets you off, you know?

• 55:57Speaker 02

  If that's. I'm just looking forward to the inbox being like blacking out and then the inbox being empty.

• 56:03Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 56:05Chris Williamson?

  You just see Cafe Nero.

• 56:09Jonny?

  You said, that was it.

• 56:10Chris Williamson?

  Come on.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  I've, so I've got an anti-hack to begin with, which is just a failed. So I bought an HomePod Mini recently. Just, you reminded me of it before, Johnny.

• 56:19Chris Williamson?

  What's that?

• 56:20Speaker 02

  So HomePod is Apple's version of a home speaker. It's their version of like the Alexa speaker or the Google thing.

• 56:28Chris Williamson?

  Wasn't that burning, burning holes onto work surfaces when it first came out?

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was. It was made of some kind of corrosive material. Yeah. Sadly, it's terrible. So I returned it straight the same day. So I'll tell you why. Cause currently, I think this was an old life hack from one of the, one of the OG. This is a Bose Mini Sound Link, if it'll come into focus. There we are. Beautiful speaker, incredible bass for what, for the size of it. Like it's mind blowing how they managed it. HomePod, too trebly, not enough thickness in the bass. And I'm a man that loves bassy music. And it uses Wi-Fi protocol, not Bluetooth. So it's actually a real faff to get it to connect to anything.

• 57:15Speaker 02

  And there's about a two second delay between, let's say, a noise happening on your laptop or iPhone and playing on the speaker, which is fine if you're playing background music. But as soon as you're using it for anything else, it's untenable. And it has to be plugged in. So on all fronts, it's, it's not good.

• 57:34Jonny?

  There's a lot of very detailed crit critique of this, like you put, this all happened within a couple of hours. Within two hours.

• 57:43Chris Williamson?

  You've used that Bose Sound Link or whatever it's called for a long time. I've got a, the Anchor version, which is thirty five pounds, I think. And the battery on it is wild. I can't believe how loud it is. It goes everywhere. It's a good shape as well. You know, it's enough to fit in a laptop bag. It's enough to fit in a day bag or whatever. Yeah. I'm a, so the anti hack was don't buy an Apple HomePod Mini or whatever. And the actual hack is.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  Well, the actual hack is completely separate. I just, I was just reminded.

• 58:18Jonny?

  Just sneaking in a separate one.

• 58:19Chris Williamson?

  Good, good.

• 58:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. So the, the hack, the hack itself is to get an Instant Pot, which I think was recommended by Jordan, who listens to the podcast. Incredible. An Instant Pot is a multi-function thing that you put in your kitchen. It does slow cooking, it does pressure cooking, it cooks rice, and you can get a, one with a special lid that does air frying as well. So really it replaces the need for any other thing in your kitchen. So particularly if you live in like a studio apartment in Tokyo or something and you, you just want something that's very space efficient.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  But where it really comes into shine is you can put a whole chicken into it with some white wine and rosemary. And it pressure cooks it within twenty, twenty-five minutes. It's falling off the bone, like it's deliciously tender. And the way that pressure cooking works is that it infuses the flavor into the meat. So a bit of white wine and rosemary, it'll like push that flavor into the, the very, it'll really penetrate that chicken.

• 59:24Chris Williamson?

  Into the fibers.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  Oh, into the fibers. Yeah. So like chefs really like pressure cooking because of that reason. The only downside is that it doesn't make very aesthetic food, like pressure cooked foods not, it just looks like a stew. So. It's all about taste.

• 59:41Chris Williamson?

  Does it smell? Because one of the product problems that you have with air fryers, especially if you do it with meat, it it's like a hairdryer blowing the smell of cooking crispy chicken around your kitchen.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  So I can't speak for air frying, but with pressure cooking, no, because the the way that it works is that it plugs. Yeah, so it plugs it and seals it. However, when it's finished, you've got two choices. You can either let it depressurize on its own, which takes an hour or so, or you can take it outside. Don't do it inside because that's where you you're basically atomizing the the smell.

• 1:00:21Speaker 02

  Um, take it outside, flip the switch and it just goes

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  for about three minutes.

• 1:00:27Chris Williamson?

  Oh, okay. And that's a specific, that's like an actual. Uh, that's not you jerry-rigging it and just ripping the lid off and being hit in the face by 500 PSI of cooked chicken.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I I think if you were to try and rip off the lid, it would be really dangerous. Like, it would probably.

• 1:00:44Chris Williamson?

  Bad things would happen.

• 1:00:45Speaker 02

  Hospitalization, yeah.

• 1:00:47Chris Williamson?

  Fine. That's, have you got, you must have a slow cooker of some kind, Johnny?

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 1:00:54Chris Williamson?

  It's a surprise.

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 1:00:56Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, I'm a fan of this. I'm a fan of a slow cooker. I've not had a a pressure cooker before, but.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Well, a pressure cooker is just fast, slow cooking.

• 1:01:05Chris Williamson?

  Good point.

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  Slow cooking on three times speed.

• 1:01:07Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, good point.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  Your favorite thing ever.

• 1:01:10Chris Williamson?

  That's another thing that I haven't, uh, mentioned about the difference in podcast players. Spotify has way more options for fine tuning the speed, one, 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, 2, 2.5 and 3. I think it goes up to four. So whereas with Apple, it's just, it's just not got it, just not got it, Apple. But if you want to do modern wisdom on, uh, new and noteworthy, please feel free to get that on. Uh, right, mine, which is just been reminded by what you were saying, Johnny. There is an option now when you have AirPods on iPhone called background sounds. Are you familiar with this?

• 1:01:54Jonny?

  No.

• 1:01:55Chris Williamson?

  Oh, so what Apple has decided to do is it's realised that a lot of people need not just sound dampening or like the noise cancellation on the outside, they actually have. And let me see if I can put this up to here. So come on. You'll see that there's this little ear thing here. If you press that, it pops up and says background sounds and background sounds.

• 1:02:25Chris Williamson?

  So that's ocean. And there is balance noise, bright noise, dark noise, ocean, rain and stream. So basically with this, how the fuck do I turn it off? There we go. This is inbuilt, Apple certified, background sound. Now, the great thing that you can do about this is you can have two volumes set for it. How much of the volume that is on at the moment, when nothing else is playing, do you want the background sounds to be at? And then a second volume, which is when you are playing something else, how much of the total overall volume that's available, that is relative to what's playing, do you want the background sound to be at? Use case, number one, I am by the pool in a lovely resort in Tulum, Mexico. I am

• 1:03:08Chris Williamson?

  listening to some cool podcasts that I was enjoying, I think Tim Dillon on Rogan, but there's a crying child. It was actually a crying child with special needs, but crying child near the pool. I didn't want to hear the sound of this child anymore. No matter how much noise cancellation I had on, had I have decided to go so loud on Rogan and Tim, it would have been pretty uncomfortable. So background sounds came on, low level, only 10, 10%, but that fills in the gap of the background. You've still got noise cancellation. And then coming through over the top, you've got the podcast, pretty pointless for listening to music along with it, reason being that music tends to fill those spaces in any case.

• 1:03:50Chris Williamson?

  But for audibling, when you've got a noisy surrounding and you're trying to focus on listening to it, great. And then also, when there's nothing, you're on a plane, you haven't had your white noise playlist from Spotify downloaded for offline or whatever, pretty robust, the waves or whatever that was ocean one is high quality. It's the sound of waves coming over, it goes up and down, it's active but not too active. They've got the white, the balance, the brown, the pink noise, they've got a rain one. I mean, it's Apple, you know, like they're gonna get it right.

• 1:04:22Jonny?

  That is a good one. They're always adding different like, there's that feature on AirPods where, have you seen it where like if you look to the right or the left, it still sounds like the audio is coming? Yeah. That's crazy. That caught me once when I was crossing the road. I was listening to like a video on my AirPods in my pocket and I looked left and I was like, oh my God, there's a car coming.

• 1:04:44Jonny?

  Luckily that wasn't.

• 1:04:45Chris Williamson?

  Wow. Okay, Johnny, what you got?

• 1:04:48Jonny?

  Okay. Uh, which one should I do? I am gonna do. The, this was recommended to me by a client. So it is a Chrome extension for all of the, I don't know whether it's all of them, but it, there's a load of visualize value. Diagrams on every new tab that you open in Chrome. So. It's just something that, I visualize value. I tend to, you're so very behind it. Do you, are you familiar with that, Chris?

• 1:05:20Chris Williamson?

  Jack's been on the show.

• 1:05:22Jonny?

  Even better. Then everyone will be familiar with it. So it's something that I've been like always wanting to. Learn more about or see more examples of, because every diagram that I see, every drawing that I see is like, it's so cleverly articulating this idea. But I just don't, I didn't have a way to get more exposure to them. But I've had so many. Like content ideas, email ideas.

• 1:05:46Jonny?

  Reminders of concepts that you forget. It's like a, it's like a read wise in some ways, like a, like a just a gentle reminder of like, oh yeah.

• 1:05:54Chris Williamson?

  Was it made by Jack? Was it made by Visualize Value? It must have been.

• 1:05:56Jonny?

  Don't know. I don't know. But it's just every new tab is a visualize value graphic.

• 1:06:02Chris Williamson?

  What's your favorite concept that you've been reminded of recently? Can you think of any?

• 1:06:12Jonny?

  A lot of them are to do with like. This sounds morbid, but reminders of death.

• 1:06:20Chris Williamson?

  Does sound a bit morbid, mate, not gonna lie.

• 1:06:22Jonny?

  Like, but you know what I mean, though?

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  They're not like, I feel like the majority are like about compounding and building leverage with digital products and stuff, but you've gone straight in.

• 1:06:31Chris Williamson?

  I haven't seen many about death, frankly.

• 1:06:33Jonny?

  You know, the idea of like, not just thinking about death in general, but like the stoic idea of thinking about death and how things are finite and will end soon. There's a few that have come out lately that have been like that, that I always think I should think more about that and give that more, you know, momentum more.

• 1:06:53Chris Williamson?

  I should spend more of my, more of my living days thinking about my death.

• 1:06:58Jonny?

  Yeah, so I, I really strongly think that, to be honest.

• 1:07:02Chris Williamson?

  They say, what is it, a good stoic, a good stoic spends his life preparing to die so that when he dies, he doesn't fear it, some, something like that. Why do, why do you get this? Is it just visualized value?

• 1:07:11Jonny?

  It's just in, in Chrome, just go into extensions and search visualized value and it'll be there.

• 1:07:17Chris Williamson?

  Chrome extension, very nice. You, Seth.

• 1:07:24Speaker 02

  Apple reminders or Tic Tic and presumably things and any task management app will have, any app worth its salt, will have a feature where you can ping a reminder based on your location. So typically used for when I'm leaving the house, it goes, oh, remember your wallet or whatever. I use it as part of a social list for whenever I enter a 30 mile radius of Edinburgh or London or Leeds to get in touch with certain people. Cause what you don't want, what you're avoiding here is visiting London and then on your way back, someone goes, oh, you were in London, how come you didn't get in touch with me? And you're like, oh shit, yeah, I should have gone for coffee with them.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  So it's having a location based reminder whenever you enter a certain zone and particularly useful for you, Chris, I guess, where you've got bros in several area codes.

• 1:08:17Chris Williamson?

  Dude, I like that. I think that's cool. Do you remember Facebook used to have a function that was exactly the same? Such and such is near you is nearby.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  It's quite a creepy function.

• 1:08:27Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, well, you could select it on and off if you didn't want it.

• 1:08:31Jonny?

  A reminder says the like when you're messaging someone, I've used that quite a few times. It's like when you open iMessage and go to message someone.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:08:39Jonny?

  The reminder pops up then.

• 1:08:41Chris Williamson?

  And what's it's all like, what's a use case for that?

• 1:08:44Jonny?

  So like, so you need to tomorrow afternoon, you you need to remember to message someone about something. For example, so if you were on your phone and you you find yourself in a conversation with someone and you remember the thing that you were going to talk to them about. It pops up then. So it's like a person contextual.

• 1:09:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I suppose Apple's trying to create this like, oh, like you open a link and it says, ah, Johnny sent you this or. But the Apple also has Find My Friends feature. The reason I'm not super on board for that is that that requires you both to have a live location tracker at all times.

• 1:09:18Jonny?

  Always on.

• 1:09:18Speaker 02

  Not every, yeah, not everyone's going to be happy with just always sharing their their location with their friends.

• 1:09:25Chris Williamson?

  No, probably not.

• 1:09:28Chris Williamson?

  Right, okay, so this is, I haven't got a car in Austin. I have been single-handedly keeping Uber solvent for the last few months. First up is Uber One, which is their Uber Premium thing. I think I mentioned this last time, but in case you haven't done Uber One's great. It works similar to Amazon Prime. You get multiple types of benefits. It works on Uber Eats. It also works on Uber. You get 5% off everything, then some preferential delivery. Sometimes you get quicker pickup. Sometimes you get free upgrades. I think that Uber One also allows you to.

• 1:10:08Chris Williamson?

  Get more options of the cars presets. Have you ever got into a car? And it says, what sort of level of talkativeness do you want the driver to have? What sort of climate do you want? Do you want it cool, hot, cold, whatever? So Uber one is part of that. Second one is Uber instead of cars, especially if you're spending a good bit of time in a city and you're going away. A lot of the time you might consider, I'm going to rent a car because I'm going to be driving around a lot. If you actually look at the cost of Ubering everywhere for a day, it does not come in anywhere close to how much renting a car would be, especially if it's lots of small journeys. And if it's over a longer period of time, one thing that I've realised is, obviously,

• 1:10:51Chris Williamson?

  on the days that I'm not Ubering, I'm not paying for anything. On the days that I have a car but don't use it, I still pay for the car. That being said, I've missed driving so much, like way more than I thought I would. And I knew I loved driving, got back here, jumped in my car, took a little while to start up, given it hasn't been driven for six months. But just felt so great to be back driving. I really enjoy it. Here's the one which was very interesting and I learned this from a driver that was stopping so that I could collect something from the supermarket. Uber doesn't get paid for stopping. So the way that your Uber drivers get paid is based on the fee that you are, that they're proposed at the very, very beginning.

• 1:11:33Chris Williamson?

  So if you get in a car and it's $9 or whatever, it is in their interests to get you there as quickly and in the most efficient route possible. If you're stuck in traffic, you don't need to be particularly concerned, but it just- I've always wondered that. It changes, for me at least, it changes the power dynamic a little bit. And also the fear around whether this guy is taking the piss or whatever else it might be. And also if you're stopping to pick somebody up and you're putting multiple destinations in, you're stopping on route. Knowing that they don't get paid for stopping is, from a courtesy perspective for you and the driver, a pretty important thing to know because after two minutes, they can only stop for two minutes.

• 1:12:16Chris Williamson?

  The reason for that is that they're not getting paid for this. So it's in their interests for you to move quickly. And if you want them to get you there on time and all the rest of it, I think that it's a pretty good courtesy thing to keep your Uber drivers happy that you don't dick about when they're stood still.

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  So there's no way for the Uber driver to take the Mick, like in a London cab, like the driver, if you don't know the area, the driver could take you a really wiggly way around the destination or stop for ages. And so with Uber, that's transferred entirely on to the the customer.

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  In the, if the customer's like, oh, can we just pull up here and pick up my mate or whatever?

• 1:12:55Chris Williamson?

  Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the stops and stuff need to be, really should just be put in the app. And obviously, everybody should know this, but you can have multiple destinations put into, so if you're going to go and pick somebody up, it's not like you need to get in and then ask him, you can actually place that into the app and have multiple destinations go the way.

• 1:13:12Jonny?

  It's like when you're sharing an Uber back with someone to drop you both off at both, each of your houses. And then on the way, one of them says, oh, I want to go to McDonald's. And so you add that in. And then that becomes part of, part of a round trip.

• 1:13:26Chris Williamson?

  That sounds like a familiar memory to me, Johnny.

• 1:13:31Jonny?

  Might have happened to me at some point.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  I've just had a flashback.

• 1:13:33Jonny?

  In that instance, if you extend the journey, they still don't get anything. What do you not know?

• 1:13:38Chris Williamson?

  No, of course you do. Yeah, because you'll have to.

• 1:13:40Jonny?

  They do.

• 1:13:40Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, even if you, even if you just say stop on route, it'll add a 50p on or something.

• 1:13:46Jonny?

  Okay. For the two minute stop.

• 1:13:49Chris Williamson?

  Yep, precisely.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  Just remembered, I think one of the original podcasts, probably 2015, 2016, where we were talking about accidentally pressing a Uber XL or whatever it's called, Uber Premium thing.

• 1:14:02Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:02Speaker 02

  And then you just hear like, in the background, oh shit. And this is like, you've been charged 10,000 pounds.

• 1:14:08Chris Williamson?

  4,000 dirhams on a, on a fucking helicopter. Okay. Well, let's, I think, I've still got loads in the tank. However, we usually finish these off by talking about what we've been watching recently, if we've been watching anything good, Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO, Apple suggestions.

• 1:14:29Chris Williamson?

  I'm just going to get it out there, right?

• 1:14:33Chris Williamson?

  Wasn't impressed with Lord of the Rings.

• 1:14:36Jonny?

  I agree.

• 1:14:36Chris Williamson?

  Very much. First two episodes was recording this after the first two episodes were up. Wasn't particularly impressed. Elon Musk tweeted today saying, J R R Tolkien is turning in his grave. He also mentioned that the only male character that isn't stupid or narcissistic and is brave, kind and competent is like one guy. And it does seem to be a very female powered show at the moment. Not that there's anything particularly wrong with that, but it was kind of confusing. I don't really understand what's going on. Not that impressed. Have you?

• 1:15:10Jonny?

  Just not very good.

• 1:15:11Chris Williamson?

  Have you watched it?

• 1:15:12Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:13Chris Williamson?

  What do you think?

• 1:15:13Jonny?

  Just not very, just didn't really enjoy it. Don't think I'll finish it.

• 1:15:18Chris Williamson?

  Half a billion they paid for that show. 250 million was just for the license.

• 1:15:24Jonny?

  No, I mean, they were, they were set up to, for it to be disappointing really, weren't they? Like for it to carry that brand and impress everybody. It's a hard thing to do. I don't think they've done, even accounting for that, I don't think they've done a very good job, but I think they had a very hard

• 1:15:41Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:42Jonny?

  remit.

• 1:15:43Chris Williamson?

  What about?

• 1:15:44Jonny?

  What about the new Game of Thrones?

• 1:15:45Chris Williamson?

  There it is. There it is. Have you watched it, Seth? You watched the new Game of Thrones?

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  No, I only watched the first episode back in 2013 when I was recovering from testicle surgery. And so I wasn't in a great mood and I just couldn't, couldn't get into it.

• 1:16:05Speaker 02

  Started there with a lot of opioids in my system, just like.

• 1:16:07Jonny?

  I imagine there'll be so many people listening going like, me too, man. Me too. That was my experience with Game of Thrones.

• 1:16:13Chris Williamson?

  What do you think, Johnny? Cause we were both pretty big fans of Game of Thrones.

• 1:16:18Jonny?

  I thought it was, I thought the first episode especially was fantastic.

• 1:16:24Chris Williamson?

  I was a little disappointed with the second episode. I thought that was a little slow.

• 1:16:30Jonny?

  A little slow, yeah.

• 1:16:32Chris Williamson?

  Just generally, it's okay. They're obviously leaning into the sort of political side of things. Here was, here's my bro science theory around it. You remember when you were watching Harry Potter as a kid or reading Harry Potter? And in the first book, they were really big into the house points. And then by sort of book three, he was breaking people out of, out of jail, but it was still like bothered about what was going on in school. And then by book seven, he's trying to save the world, right? My point being that the way that most of these series, they continue to scale the intensity and the, the grandeur of the challenges that the protagonists have to face. Now, the problem that you had with Game of Thrones at the beginning, it's like, here's something happening in Winterfell and blah, blah, blah. And then by the end of the season, they've got to save the world. Especially being a prequel, especially only being 170 years before the actions of the

• 1:17:17Chris Williamson?

  next one. And also knowing that there is a kind of a limited timeline between the two of them. There is an upper bound on how much growth and scale that they can't go and fight white walkers or wage a war because that's not part of the law of this world. So they're having to lean in a little bit more to the politics of what's going on within the show, which is great. And the politics side was interesting and exciting. But I don't know, they're just, the, the feels missing meat to me a little bit. Also, not a lot of sex.

• 1:17:52Jonny?

  No.

• 1:17:52Chris Williamson?

  And again, with this, not a massive amount of sort of compelling male protagonists. But there's no guys there that I'm really rooting for at the moment. And I don't actually know if I'm rooting for any of the girls either, yet.

• 1:18:08Jonny?

  So all in all, not that much of a fan.

• 1:18:12Chris Williamson?

  A fan, like in waiting. But again, it's because the bar was set so high. I felt so in love with the, with the Game of Thrones up until the final season, but.

• 1:18:22Jonny?

  It felt similar to me to like a Casino Royale change in the Bond.

• 1:18:28Jonny?

  Switch.

• 1:18:29Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:29Jonny?

  Like bit more basic. I know there's dragons in it still, but it's a bit more basic. There's a, there's a few like the jousting scenes, like very like gritty and real. Which it didn't really feel like it happened in like a lot of the, the, the last season of Game of Thrones. Everything's, as you say, everything's very grand, huge battles going on, lots of CGI. That was just two guys, two knights on horses in a arena. Like I just thought that was quite cool. It was a bit of a change of direction, but I do know what you mean.

• 1:18:57Chris Williamson?

  Meat, missing a bit of meat.

• 1:18:59Jonny?

  There is no meat. Hopefully there'll be, there will be some meat.

• 1:19:01Chris Williamson?

  What have you been watching? Anything else that you liked?

• 1:19:05Jonny?

  I have been watching something called The Suspect on ITV. I think there's only two, uh, episodes of it, but really good so far. It's like a psychological thriller, um, where there's like a guy. He's a psychiatrist and he becomes the, this suspect in a, in a case.

• 1:19:30Jonny?

  Phenomenal so far, but only it's one of those things that they release weekly and it's so, and you really just, you want it all to be on, available to watch, to finish.

• 1:19:39Chris Williamson?

  Tell you what.

• 1:19:39Jonny?

  It might get, might get terrible.

• 1:19:41Chris Williamson?

  Lord of the Rings, releasing two episodes on the first day was bloody smart. I'll give them that.

• 1:19:50Jonny?

  Yeah, don't open with one episode.

• 1:19:53Speaker 02

  I'm just adding The Suspect to my list, which is a, a life hack that we're all, all on board with. Where you have a list of shows that to watch and you put the person's name who recommended it next to it for accountability.

• 1:20:05Jonny?

  Consequences.

• 1:20:06Chris Williamson?

  I imagine.

• 1:20:07Speaker 02

  Berate them afterwards.

• 1:20:07Chris Williamson?

  I imagine you have a, an external spreadsheet with a rating system of whether or not you should, how highly you should trust that person's suggestions.

• 1:20:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, it, it, you, you, so you, you have a coefficient for each person depending on their kind of ongoing ranking. And Johnny's actually winning.

• 1:20:23Jonny?

  Am I really?

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:25Jonny?

  That's great.

• 1:20:27Chris Williamson?

  You said, have you, have you watched anything recently?

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  I actually watched, I think it was your recommendation, Chris, The Boys.

• 1:20:33Chris Williamson?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:20:36Speaker 02

  So I've just finished the third season.

• 1:20:39Chris Williamson?

  Oh, I mean, that's a 30 hour commitment. That is a, about as.

• 1:20:44Speaker 02

  It's taken a few months.

• 1:20:45Chris Williamson?

  That's about as good of a. Commendation as you can give, I think.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. For me to go home run with it is, yeah, and it's great. It's a really, really nice concept. Really, really well executed as well. And I think sometimes when you see shows like that where if someone to explain it on paper, you'd be like, oh, yeah, that sounds like a brilliant idea to flesh out. And then it falls flat on the, on the delivery. But this was great on both sides. So, yeah, really good.

• 1:21:14Chris Williamson?

  Glad.

• 1:21:14Jonny?

  I tried that. I tried it. No, I tried it. I feel like I tried like Game of Thrones. I had to try three or four times before I got into it. Same with Peaky Blinders, same with Breaking Bad. So I probably need another go at it.

• 1:21:28Chris Williamson?

  You're not an easy, easy chick to please. That's.

• 1:21:31Jonny?

  I think I just need, I, I, I am very like, if I'm halfway through the first episode and I don't like something, I turn off. I'm not watching it.

• 1:21:38Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, it's worth sticking up.

• 1:21:40Jonny?

  One more recommendation. It's a bit, it's more just that it's because it's unbelievable. It's based on the truth is it's called like The Thief, His Wife and the Canoe, or something like that. I think it's on BBC. It's on BBC or ITV, one of the two. I wasn't intending to say this, but it's based on this. It's a true story about that guy in like Seton Corrue, who was, it was going to claim bankruptcy. So just, just paddled out to sea in a canoe. And then claimed that he died and hid in the next door house for two years. And his wife claimed life insurance and got all the money. And like this series, if it wasn't based on truth, the things that unfold in it, you'd be like, this is ridiculous. Like who's made this plot? But it's all factual.

• 1:22:26Chris Williamson?

  So is this dramatized or a documentary?

• 1:22:28Jonny?

  It's drama. It's a drama of what happens. There's bits of it that are slightly exaggerated.

• 1:22:34Jonny?

  But like these two like tell their kids, tell their family that this guy's dead and he's just, and because they've all got Geordie accents. So he's just like, oh, well, I live next door. And no, no, no.

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  So that that reminds me that out of this stuff that's like you hear the first thing and you're like surely not and then it gets more and more ridiculous. You recommended the the one about the woman that set up the vegan restaurant and she met this guy who said bad vegan. Yeah. And he was a bit of a catfish. So I think for anyone who enjoyed that, there's a couple of podcast series. One of them is called Sweet Bobby, which is the most turbo catfish story that I've ever heard. It's a journalistic true crime thing where they they follow through the story and there's I think each episode is 25 minutes, seven episodes. So it's short and sweet. If you've got a long car journey or something coming

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  up, definitely get onto that. And the other one is called Call Bethel, a little bit more heavy. It's about the systematic sexual abuse in the Jehovah's Witness community. Pretty pretty intense. Yeah. But for something a bit more lighthearted, Fantastic Fungi.

• 1:23:49Chris Williamson?

  Podcast series or TV?

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  Documentary. So it's just about fungi as a as a thing, not just hallucinogenic ones, but how they how they exist. It sounds like a really dry, boring thing, but it's so visually beautiful.

• 1:24:06Chris Williamson?

  Is it Paul Stamets or no?

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  He's on there as well. Yeah.

• 1:24:10Chris Williamson?

  Cause he's just released a documentary, I think, called How to Change Your Mind, which is

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  On Netflix.

• 1:24:14Chris Williamson?

  The documentary about that. Yeah, Paul's just like the mushroom man, isn't he?

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  The mushroom man. Yeah, he he knows his stuff. The only thing that irks me about that. Well, that a lot of the people on there are like, I have been studying fungi for the last 12 years. And it's like, you know, when someone's an expert in something and they they just decide to pronounce the thing a bit differently to make them seem like a special expert, even though.

• 1:24:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:44Chris Williamson?

  Uh, I watched Untold. Have you seen these? Did you watch the one about Mante Teo?

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:24:53Chris Williamson?

  Oh, Seth, this is, I would say that this is, especially because you like the catfish things. I would bump this. I really don't want my coefficient to drop, but I would, I would guess, I would be prepared to wage a large amount of money that you will very much enjoy this. It's a two-part documentary series about an American football player who gets catfished online and they tell the story from his side, from the catfish's side, from the side of his coaches. And he's super famous. He was going to be the number one draft pick one year and just all hell breaks loose.

• 1:25:33Chris Williamson?

  Uh, and the person that was catfishing him at the time identified as male now identifies as a woman. And, uh, it is, it's very compelling and it's very well done. The thing that I liked the most about it was, uh, Mante Teo, the athlete and the protagonist, his attitude. I think he's just a total hero of a guy, like very into faith, very into hard work, just accepted the fact that he'd messed up. The entire world was laughing at him. People were going out on Halloween nights out in America. Mante Teo and his girlfriend, and it was them with their arm around no one. And this guy just continued to take it on the chin, continued to try and perform.

• 1:26:16Chris Williamson?

  He's just, he's, he's great. So I highly recommend.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  That's exciting. So I've, I've put that high up on the list. So now currently in the leaderboard between you both. We've got Whiplash from Miles, Invasion from Johnny, uh, Untold from you, Chris. And then we've got Ex Machina, The Alpinist and The Suspect in that order.

• 1:26:36Jonny?

  So I would get rid of Invasion.

• 1:26:38Speaker 02

  Just get rid of Invasion.

• 1:26:39Jonny?

  Delete it. Yeah.

• 1:26:40Speaker 02

  Okay. Cause that was a Johnny.

• 1:26:42Jonny?

  Ex Machina, stick that up there. That's great. I'm happy for my name to go next to the Mantetone.

• 1:26:48Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:49Jonny?

  As well. Double coefficient.

• 1:26:51Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, beautiful.

• 1:26:52Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:26:53Chris Williamson?

  You're not taking any of my scores, Johnny. This is my.

• 1:26:56Jonny?

  Well, no, it's more just that I think it forces him to watch it first, doesn't it?

• 1:27:00Chris Williamson?

  Well, yeah, but you're also going to benefit.

• 1:27:02Speaker 02

  To get the credit for it and that's gonna.

• 1:27:04Jonny?

  But I also myself, like, I'm the person with the untarnished record here. Like, I'm in the lead. I just sound to lose.

• 1:27:10Chris Williamson?

  If I can slipstream and hang on to the coat tails of your fantastic suggestions, so be it. Look, gentlemen, let's leave it there. Everybody that is listening, what should they check out of what you guys have to offer? Have you got anything new or cool that's available online?

• 1:27:27Jonny?

  We have a, so it's an, we have an updated version of the same thing that's even better. So we help, the majority of what we do these days is we help coaches, mainly personal trainers, anyone in the fitness and health space, move their service online. So we just teach what we did in Propane fitness. So there's a training that explains 90% of that for free at propanefitness.com forward slash modern wisdom. If instead you just like some fitness stuff, so like a training program, some macros, you can go to propanefitness.com. We have a free calculator on there. It'll give you some macros, give you some calories. Those are two places. And we're also on YouTube, podcasts, social media, TikTok these days. Very modern.

• 1:28:05Chris Williamson?

  Bloody everywhere.

• 1:28:06Jonny?

  Very trendy.

• 1:28:06Chris Williamson?

  Can't get rid of you. Well, look, I will be doing a post wedding

• 1:28:13Chris Williamson?

  update, I'm sure for everyone after your ceremony, your nuptials this Friday, which I'm very much looking forward to. Are you gonna drink, Scone?

• 1:28:23Speaker 02

  No, sadly.

• 1:28:25Chris Williamson?

  What?

• 1:28:26Jonny?

  You've decided in advance.

• 1:28:28Chris Williamson?

  What's the thinking behind not drinking?

• 1:28:30Speaker 02

  It's just, well, there was no thinking behind drinking. So that's like saying, what's, what's the thinking behind like not putting smearing poo on your face when you get to the wedding?

• 1:28:41Jonny?

  What about if I, if I, if I devote, like, if I spent £500 on drinks that were just for you? And no one else could drink them?

• 1:28:51Speaker 02

  And in the speech you were like, oh, everyone give a big hand to Yusuf.

• 1:28:54Jonny?

  Yeah, big hand. This is Yusuf.

• 1:28:55Chris Williamson?

  That bar that's over the far side, that bar that's there. I'm afraid everybody is not allowed to go to it, except for Yusuf.

• 1:29:04Speaker 02

  You're really twisting my nipples here, guys.

• 1:29:05Jonny?

  When it's unstoppable force, immovable object. Does Yusuf have a beer? We'll find out.

• 1:29:11Speaker 02

  I'd sit there politely sip it, just like, ah.

• 1:29:16Chris Williamson?

  Wow.

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  Thanks, Johnny. Really thoughtful.

• 1:29:19Chris Williamson?

  I'm looking forward to seeing you both. Everything from Profin Fitness, profinfitness.com/ModernWisdom. And all the rest of this stuff will be in the show notes below as well. And that's it. Until next time, gentlemen. Goodbye.

• 1:29:30Speaker 03

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• 1:29:47Chris Williamson?

  What would happen if I stopped drilling? You stall, you freeze to death. That's what.

• 1:29:51Speaker 03

  With great power comes great deniability.

• 1:29:54Jonny?

  I'm not the first daddy.

• 1:29:55Speaker 03

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