MarTech Podcast ™ // Marketing + Technology = Business Growth
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This episode of the MarTech Podcast features host Benjamin Shapiro interviewing Kelly Hopping, a six-time CMO and the current Chief Marketing Officer at Six Sense. The discussion centers on her book Rising and explores the challenges executive leaders face when trying to balance day-to-day departmental operations with broader corporate strategy. Specifically, Hopping explains how marketers are often typecast as creative producers rather than holistic business athletes, making it difficult to step back from tactical execution to focus on financials, P&Ls, and M&A discussions. The conversation offers practical insight into how marketing leaders can elevate their contributions to the executive level by trusting their teams and engaging directly with overall business operations.
Introduction of Guest Kelly Hoppingstory
Benjamin Shapiro introduces Kelly Hopping, a six-time CMO and the Chief Marketing Officer at Six Sense, to discuss executive leadership and career advice.
Struggling With Business Adviceinsight
Kelly Hopping shares the specific piece of advice from her book Rising that she personally struggles to follow in her daily work.
Being a Business Athleteinsight
The guest discusses the danger of marketers being typecast as purely creative and explains her personal pride in functioning as a business athlete.
Balancing Marketing and Strategystrategy
Hopping details how being buried in tactical marketing tasks prevents her from studying P and Ls or participating in M and A discussions.
Advice for Young Marketersstrategy
The guest outlines actionable steps for junior marketers to understand overall business strategy, such as listening to earnings calls.
CEO Perspective on Transitioning Rolesstory
Benjamin Shapiro relates to the guest's struggle, sharing his own experience as a marketer turned CEO who must stop marketing to run his organization.
“Getting brands authentically integrated into content performs better than TV advertising.”
“Typical lifespan of an article is about 24 to 36 hours.”
“Listen to an investor call, listen to, like, listen to the earnings call, read the P and L, understand what it means, look where the hockey puck is going and skate to it.”
“All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.”
AI tools sound confident even when they're wrong. Kelly Hopping, Chief Marketing Officer at 6sense, explains where that missing context breaks go-to-market execution. She unpacks how account scoring models miss buying signals, why intent data needs human judgment layered on top, and what marketers should check before trusting an AI-generated account list. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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