Open Claw is Starting To Taking Over

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. You know which country is crazy about it right now?

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Brazil.

• 0:48Speaker 00

  China. They literally, I saw, I saw like, it was like a park and everyone had their laptops out and they're on OpenClaw. Like, isn't that crazy?

• 0:55Speaker 01

  That is crazy. I didn't realize that. I know quite a few people who use it in Brazil, but we have a team out there, so I'm biased with Brazil.

• 1:00Speaker 00

  Check this out. So this is OpenClaw spikes to 250K plus stars, Linux and React as context. So you have Linux, which is in the yellow line on this chart. You can see it growing steadily over time, right? It goes, goes, it's a hockey stick, okay? It gets up to like 200K stars or so. Then you have React, which is from Facebook, and you know, it pushes up here and then it's at 250K or so. OpenClaw.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  Just a straight line up.

• 1:25Speaker 00

  It's just like, it's just an eye. It's not even a hockey stick.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  It's just straight up a line going up for anyone who can't see. All the other ones are hockey sticks, so it's going up into the right, like a, you know, like a triangle, side of a triangle. This is just a straight line up, straight up like, you know, 90 degrees.

• 1:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  Straight up.

• 1:45Speaker 00

  And this is what Jensen is saying exactly. You can do more with more. And so, again, if you're someone who is very curious about the world, you're about to become way more curious. And it's, it's, he's so smart to have partnered up with OpenClaw on it, because I thought they were going to make their own. But the fact that it's partnered up, I'm like, that's, that's smart, so.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Dude, I thought the same thing too. I thought he was going to create his own. Okay, so do you want to show people your dot charts and how you do it?

• 2:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, sure.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  And how you use AI to create this content for people on marketing?

• 2:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is funny. Okay, so this is a dot chart that was created completely from AI. And all I did, Neil, with my my claw was I said, I really like these dot charts on Twitter. How can you apply this to us for my content? That's all I said. And I was like, you know, you you already have a content ingester where you pull from my content every day. What would be relevant? So it actually pulled a study from McKinsey on thirteen hundred companies. And it shows eighty percent of these thirteen hundred companies use AI, only six percent get real value from it. Less than one percent are running autonomous systems. So this publishes, okay? And it gets fifty six thousand views on it, which is not bad for an Instagram post. Because this is the type of stuff, by the way, it's not like, oh, it's like a dating post or something like that.

• 2:57Speaker 00

  We are talking companies using AI. And we're getting more and more companies on my side, at least on the AI implementation fees. So that's one. I want to show another one. Okay, this one's great. Let me pull this up for you. Do you see this?

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:10Speaker 00

  Okay, so this is a LinkedIn post. So this caption, by the way, let me just read it. I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but AI went from an IQ of eighty three to one hundred twenty eight in three years. Yours didn't. Let me put that into perspective. November twenty twenty two, GPT three point five launched IQ around eighty three, below below human average. People called it a fun toy. March twenty twenty three, GPT four hit IQ one oh five. That's dead center human average. People started paying attention. Twenty twenty five, okay, it just goes down this, right? Now we're looking at it like IQ one forty five plus, three years from toy to genius. The question isn't whether AI is smarter than you. It's it already is measurable ways. The question is whether you're using it or competing against it. One of the past has a future, the other doesn't. So then the graphic that you see here, Neil, AI's IQ is growing exponentially, yours isn't.

• 3:55Speaker 00

  So it kind of shows a chart over here. And then all these people in the comments, one hundred thirteen comments over here, okay? It's seventy eight likes. It did fine. But all these people start arguing about IQ is not the right thing to measure. IQ cannot solve this blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, I'm not even gonna engage with this bullshit.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  No, there's no point. Even if you just use stats and data, people will tell you how you're wrong. There is no point. But let's go into how you created that. So let's go, let's talk about workflow. Let's say someone wants to end up creating. Social content here. This chart here, I'm assuming you had AI create it. You didn't pull someone else's chart.

• 4:27Speaker 00

  This one, so what it does, Neil, it will look around on the internet and I'll cite, I have it cite the sources at the bottom. Cause, so, you know, by the way, uh, let me, let me give you a little bit of the workflow. So imagine you and I are talking about stuff because you and I share a lot of news and we'll share like what we're testing. So it will take, it'll ingest all of our content and based on a claim that you or I make, it'll try to do more research on it to back it up and then it'll make it into a chart.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  And you're using what for that? Open Claw?

• 4:52Speaker 00

  I'm using Claw. Yeah. Open Claw. One of the claws.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  All right. So you guys can try that out. My process is a little bit different. So instead of taking recordings like that, we take what we get asked frequently from potential customers. And we have a repository of that. It could be audio. It could be, you know, people writing it down. Audio is easy for AI to just scrape from there. And then from there, we end up doing research and then you can create charts on it. I've mentioned this in the past. We've tried using AI to help with the charts. It's not always a hundred percent accurate. So we tend to have a lot of humans in the loop. AI does help with a little bit of the design, but we have humans in the loop because we just don't want the one in five or whatever errors. Cause then people just chew me apart anytime anything is a little off.

• 5:36Speaker 00

  So Neil, as you say that, I literally typed that into my open claw. I'm just like, go do that.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  You see what I mean? And you know how, how I like, I'll see what people post on Twitter now, or I see like a YouTube video. All I do is I just post that YouTube video in. I'll say, hey, how does this relate to our goals on a scale of one to one hundred? How relevant is it? Oh, it's very relevant. Okay. Go do it. Right? Most of the time I would say nine times out of 10, it's like, this is not relevant right now. Okay. I'm like, okay, good. Good to put me in my place. But sometimes I'm like, oh, this is like a 95 out of a hundred. I'm like, okay, let's, let's have a conversation around this. And literally all I'm doing, I, I talk to this more than I talk to anybody. And when I, when I'm putting, I'm putting my phone right now, I mean, my claw, all I talk to is Alfred. That's all I do. All day. Coming back from the gym, talk to Alfred, sitting, waiting for the restroom or whatever. Like I talk to Alfred, that's all I do.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Eric is overstating it here. He does have a personal life and he does other things with his phone and open claw. It's super efficient.

• 6:30Speaker 00

  I just, I can't wait for you to activate it because then that's all you're going to talk about with me. You're going to call me all the time. Maybe you're not going to call me anymore because you're just going to want to talk to yours. I don't know what you're going to name yours.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Maybe. I know you don't believe it, but I don't think I'm going to end up ever activating it.

• 6:45Speaker 00

  I don't believe you.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  You don't think so?

• 6:47Speaker 00

  This one, I'll bet you my life on too. I've been willing to bet my life on very little things, but this one I'll bet my life on.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  If I look at my life each year, it's changed to progressing to just like focus on like extremely really large deals and brand building. So I agree with you. I would be a really high user of open claw if it was six years ago, seven years ago. It's just what I work on today has shifted and it's getting more extreme to that way where it's harder for me to use tools and technology to help automate what I'm doing. Cause it's very heavy relationship business. Like it's getting to a point where I don't even do outreach anymore. And I'm just getting set up and just doing the calls myself and just building relationships with people and just trying to work big deals and that's it.

• 7:34Speaker 00

  I completely understand and yet he still will use it. So we'll see.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  What way do you think I'll use it? Give me an example.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  I don't know. I just know you're going to use it because here's the thing, right? You just saw the chart, you saw the data, you're a very data driven person, right? And you hear some of the richest people in the world saying like, this is like the biggest thing. And like, you know, every company needs to have a strategy. I think eventually you'll come around to it and you use it in your own way. For, for example, like I can only talk about me, I can't talk about you, right? But the, the things that it does for me, such as the, how it negotiates deals for me on, on the, because everyone tries to do these, uh, these, by the way, I think I'm getting eight to 10 inquiries a day. Cause I think these other influencer managers are using AI as well. And so I think I'm having the AI negotiate with them and like, that is, that is real revenue, right? But even when I haven't looked through my LinkedIn or say, hey, here's who you should be talking to automatically. Oh, look at my calendar. Hey, you're traveling over here right now. Who's, here's who you should be talking to based on your goals over here. Maybe you should set up a dinner for this or that. And then maybe your team can, can take that over.

• 8:27Speaker 00

  For you, but I think you're going to be like what your team's doing right now for you setting them up. I think you can do even more of it. That's my point.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  So I, I think you nailed it. I'm not saying my organization won't use it. We already are using it. We do it for outreach for influencers. We do it for outreach for me and meetings. It's just more so, I personally don't have to download it and install it. My team is already executing on it and they have been for a while now. If they didn't, I would be pissed off, but it's just, I don't think it'll come to a place where I need to install it on my phone or my computer. It's more so my team's just going and executing it all on my behalf.

• 9:00Speaker 00

  So I, I think the reason I say you're going to be using for sure, maybe you're not using open claw, but you're going to be using a version of it because everything's kind of becoming like an open claw. So like perplexity computer or like madness is like new computer use or whatever. So you're going to be using a version of it because it's going to be built into whatever you're using and you're just going to use that.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  That's true from Gemini and all those solutions and all that kinds of. And the real reason where I just don't touch open claw, I don't want to deal with any security issues. That's the real reason, or else I would already had it on my phone.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  But the Nvidia version, I think he calls it Nemo claw or something like that. I will end up using that because it'll be secure and for corporations. I just don't want to use open claw myself until they figure out security issues. I think you nailed it. It won't be called open claw, but it'll be a quote unquote version of that in whatever L L M I'm using because it'll already be integrated.

• 9:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, and you will love it and we will be talking about it all the time. You know, I just came from a podcast interview with Andrew Warner. So I was just sharing all the AI stuff for like an hour. And he was telling me he, uh, Heaton Shaw, your, your brother in law texts him all the time on how he can't get off of it. Right. But he's, he's more similar to me in that respect. So.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  Yes. On that side, from a personality standpoint, I don't think I'll ever be a power user like you or Heathen. I, I just don't see.

• 10:13Speaker 00

  That's your personality and that's fine.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like, for some reason in business, like my thing that I love more than anything is the deal. Like I just, I'll kill myself for the deal.

• 10:24Speaker 00

  Have you read that, The Art of the Deal?

• 10:26Speaker 01

  I have not.

• 10:27Speaker 00

  You know, I actually, I actually, I actually have it. Um, I actually, because it's all about the deal with that book. So obviously. So I'm actually good. I think, I think I'm going to read it because the fact that you brought it up, I'm like, I've never read it, but I have it in my bookshelf. So.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  Dude, so I was talking to Heathen about marketing a few months ago. And he was telling me about all the stuff he's doing with his MacBooks and how he spends so much per computer and he orders a ton of them and all this kind of stuff. He was just like, business is going to change, marketing is going to change. You know, and he's like pushing me and here he does my personal. I'm like, yeah, this is fine. And he's like, are you going to do it or not? I'm like, personally, not so much, but I'm like, I'm definitely hiring a lot of people who are going to do it for me.

• 11:06Speaker 00

  And how did he react to that?

• 11:08Speaker 01

  He's just like, he's like, that sounds about right. That is more my personality.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, and that's fine. We're all, we're all different, right? So Neil and I, we're not saying like, there's any right or wrong way to do it. I think we've figured out by now, like, you know, approaching, well, I'm approaching my 40s, but in our 40s, I should say, that we are, we are how we are. And, you know, I don't think there's any right or wrong way to do something. So all that to say, guys, that is it for today and we'll see you tomorrow.