Pod Insights Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips AI SDRs & New Pricing Models Might Destroy Outbound Sales About this episode In episode #2860, Eric Siu and Neil Patel explore how AI-driven sales reps and new pricing models are transforming the game, from increased efficiency to potential disruption. Discover what this means for the future of sales! Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube! Check out more of Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT) and Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT) TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: (00:00) The Rise of AI in Sales (03:14) Disruptive Pricing Models in AI (04:39) That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more! Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel X @ericosiu
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0:39 Speaker 00 This is actually, there's a startup called Runway. And they're like a finance startup. But they basically created these AI SDRs to help with the prospecting. And basically, it's costing them around $10,000 a month, resource-wise, to run these AI SDRs. But it's generating them a lot more pipeline. And they don't necessarily need to fire anyone, but they don't need to hire more people, right? And so I think we're going to see a lot more of this trend upwards. And related to this, I wanted to talk about the most disruptive AI pricing model so far. Because we're talking about these AI SDRs, and there's actually a couple of AI SDR companies. And they're charging differently versus like SaaS. Because usually with SaaS, you would charge on a per-seat basis, right? And you charge monthly for that.
1:24 Speaker 00 Things are changing now. We're like Intercom, for example. They're like, you know, they were a chat, they're a conversational intelligence tool, right? And they now charge you 99 cents per resolved ticket. So they've changed up their pricing, I believe. And then Salesforce, I think they're changing to like a, on a usage basis, too. And so I think we might start to see more of that. And the ones that pioneered this, maybe like, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago, is actually Zapier, right? Zapier, they charge you based on the number of tasks that you're running. I think we're going to see the models change. And I'm trying to pull this up right now. It's not pulling up. There's a nice little graph from Kyle Poyar from Growth Unhinged. And it actually shows you the new pricing models for AI. And I think, you know, we're going to see more efficiencies come from these AI workers.
2:09 Speaker 00 But we're also going to see pricing efficiencies as well.
2:13 Speaker 01 I also think going back to the Gary Tan tweet or post on X, I do agree that, you know, and he's just talking about what one of his friends said. He said, "A friend of mine told me that AASDRs might actually make outbound sales stop working entirely in the coming years." And then he has the looking eyes, "I got a curiosity." I think an issue you're going to have with AI is people are going to use it maliciously and they're going to scale this out like crazy. So instead of 10 calls a day or 50 calls a day, they now do 5,000 calls a day or whatever they can get away with. I do believe that is going to cause not necessarily channels like outbound sales to stop working entirely. I think they're just going to be less effective because people are going to be fed up with it.
2:55 Speaker 00 And whoever can build something on the AI side to defend against this will probably make good money.
3:00 Speaker 01 Yes, just like on Apple does it, "Hey, spam call."
3:04 Speaker 00 Oh, it's so good. It automatically just shuts it off.
3:07 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
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3:52 Speaker 00 price by $200 per month. So right now, you're getting it at the lowest price possible. So go to marketingschool.io/agency to learn more and we'll see you inside. By the way, I think there's, there's a lot of AI security things that people aren't like, you look at Delta suing CrowdStrike, right? For 500 million or so? I think it's 500 million, right?
4:10 Speaker 01 It's something large.
4:12 Speaker 00 It's something big. But point is, there are, there's a dearth of security solutions out there right now. So if that's something that you wanted to go build, now's a good time to go do it. And then, you know, Gary Tan talking about destroying outbound sales, like, I just think... What is it? There's about 700,000 people in the United States that are basically in a SDR type of role. And there's about 1.3 million people that are in some type of sales role, I believe. Maybe more than that. I just read this stat like earlier this week.
4:42 Speaker 00 And so what's going to happen? I think sales, low-quality salespeople are going to get replaced. Okay, you see there's a trend here. Low-quality customer service people are going to get replaced. Low-quality anything probably going to be replaced. And they're just going to have to move into a different job. That's all. And this will help people find something that they genuinely want to do, and they'll be happier.
5:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, and I don't know if they're all going to be replaced. I think you're going to have politics come into play, and then people are saved in some aspect or another.
5:09 Speaker 00 People are always saved. All right, so that is it for today, guys. Go to marketingschool.io/agency to learn more about the Agency Owners Association, where we help agency owners grow. And that being said, we'll see you tomorrow.
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