AI Has Introduced Product Slop

This episode is hosted by Neil and Eric. They break down the rise of AI slop in products, marketing, and SEO, why mass AI content briefly ranks then disappears, and how real trust signals like E-E-A-T still win. The conversation also covers ChatGPT ads, early ad arbitrage opportunities, Microsoft’s take on AEO vs GEO, X articles growth, and why vibe coding and streaming builds attention before revenue. A must-listen for marketers navigating AI-driven SEO, content strategy, and emerging platforms. Key Takeaways AI content can rank, but it won’t last without trust Speed creates slop, not excellence Early platforms reward bold experimentation Chapters (00:00) AI product and marketing slop (01:14) AI content ranking experiment (02:20) E-E-A-T and human involvement (03:00) Lazy marketers and AI tools (05:02) Career growth and motivation (07:36) ChatGPT ads opportunity (10:32) How ChatGPT drives traffic (12:09) AEO vs GEO explained (14:56) X articles and distribution (19:16) Vibe coding to $1M strategy

• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:44Speaker 00

  Now there's product slop, because it's so easy to build all these products. So when you, we can ship at 100 times the speed. The problem now, Neil, is whatever you build into UberSuggest, or whatever you know you build into Answer2Public, there could be risk where you have too much features and it's too much crap, and then it inundates the entire system. So more things faster is rarely a recipe for excellence. When it takes weeks to ship, you justify every feature. When it takes hours, you ship everything. Why not? It feels like progress and momentum. It's what we call perceived progress. Yeah, but it just hasn't just introduced a product slop. It's introduced marketing slop. It's introduced engineering slop. It's introduced slop everywhere. Because people are doing a lot of stuff that they don't need to do.

• 1:29Speaker 00

  The amount of messages I get on a weekly basis of people showing me cool shit they're doing with AI. And no joke, more than nine out of 10 times, they're like, "This is never gonna make anyone any money or do anything from..." They just created a new cool shiny thing for marketing and it's like whoop-de-doo. So, talking, speaking about slop, I saw this post on LinkedIn. This guy, Mike Cornugent, wrote this. So he said, "We published 2,000 AI-generated articles across 20 new domains with zero authority to see if raw AI content could rank. Here's what happened in just 36 days. So 71% of pages got indexed, eight sites ranked for 1,000 keywords each, 122,000 impressions, over 240 clicks in total." That seems very low. Five sites hit top 30 for 30% of their keywords.

• 2:14Speaker 00

  But here's the plot twist. All articles disappeared from search after three months. What went wrong? First, it's obvious that all the sites were brand new. No trust signals, no domain authority, nothing to make Google believe you're worth citing. Plus, the content was fully AI-generated with no human input or originality. No author with strong EAT signals. How do I know that's a reason? Because we tested six AI-assisted articles on our main blog. The difference? Night and day. Still ranking with three in the top 10 after six months. Five hundred fifty thousand impressions and growing. Featured as sources and AI overuse. So yes, AI-generated content can rank easily, but it doesn't stay there unless the content is updated and supported by enough trust signals for Google. AKA SEO.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. You can't just spam. We've been saying this for ages. Everyone who's just creating tons of AI junk content isn't gonna do well. It needs to, you need to involve a human, you need to build trust. You need to have the EAT elements. Expertise or experience, expertise, authority and trust. On a side note. You know what I've been seeing a lot from SEOs? And marketers? The lazy marketers are getting even lazier.

• 3:17Speaker 00

  How so?

• 3:18Speaker 01

  Because of AI. I'm getting so many videos of people using Claude Co-Work. And they're like, look, it's doing my job for me, so I can work less and get paid. Like, the lazy people are getting lazier.

• 3:32Speaker 00

  Wait, wait. Like, people at your company?

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Not my company. Like, friends who are in marketing.

• 3:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, I get it, I get it. They're showing you how they're doing it now.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  With Claude Co-Work?

• 3:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  And how they're working less and getting paid.

• 3:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Like, I have people being like, look, I'm getting paid like a hundred and twenty grand. And look, I'm doing Claude Co-Work. He's the best investment ever. You know, I can work less and get paid the same.

• 3:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:54Speaker 01

  And I'm like, this is just this terrible attitude. I'm like, eventually you are gonna be replaced with this kind of attitude.

• 3:59Speaker 00

  Well, I don't know. I mean, you remember what Bill Gates used to say? It's like, you know, you don't want to exactly have this. You want to work for someone that's smart, but you want to work for someone that's lazy. Because lazy people always find a loophole and they find like a, like a creative way to do things. So are these people lazy and smart?

• 4:16Speaker 01

  Uh, they're smart enough to figure out how to do a lot of their job without doing it.

• 4:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  But they're not smart enough to go above and beyond and do more to

• 4:26Speaker 00

  I see.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  maintain and keep their job and grow within the corporation. So these are people who are pretty much entry level jobs.

• 4:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Not mid level, maybe a little bit higher than entry. And most of them, that I've been sending this, I don't have too many examples, but the majority of the ones who sent me, there's only three. Uh, the three that I'm thinking of, they also complain how the world is against them.

• 4:47Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  They don't make enough money. People should pay them more.

• 4:51Speaker 00

  God.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Like, it's unfair and they, they have tons of things about that. So they don't. I'm not saying they're right or wrong. I'm just saying, I haven't seen them make the effort to try to improve themselves. I have seen them make the most amount of effort in recent times to improve themselves. But that's because of AI and specifically AI doing their job so they can get paid and travel more, do whatever they want.

• 5:14Speaker 00

  Oh, I know what you're talking about.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  That's one of the three.

• 5:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  There's two more.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  So these people are maybe humble and smart, but not hungry.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Uh, yes. And I don't know how smart you would want it because it's like, they don't ever want to get better if it involves work. They want to get better if it means they can work less.

• 5:36Speaker 00

  You know, this should give you hope, those of you listening to this, because it has never been easier to get ahead.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's all I gotta say.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  Some get paid so well and I'm like, so you know, I only have to work like thirty minutes to hour. They're like, yeah, look at this. I'm getting a hundred and fifty grand a year, a hundred and twenty or whatever.

• 5:53Speaker 00

  Don't get me wrong. I'm a pretty lazy person. I just like doing things in a creative way. But I like to keep myself stimulated. So.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I need to keep myself stimulated.

• 6:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  You know what I actually told all three?

• 6:02Speaker 00

  What?

• 6:03Speaker 01

  You should go into a new industry. I'm like, you do all this kind of stuff because you never liked marketing. You should go into something you love.

• 6:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  And then you'll put in the time and effort and get really good at it.

• 6:12Speaker 00

  Use that marketing for someone that will pay you for it.

• 6:16Speaker 00

  Their marketing skills, get paid by someone in a different industry.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  No, no, they're getting paid for marketing. They're employees.

• 6:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  I'm saying they shouldn't be marketing employees. They should go do something else in their life.

• 6:25Speaker 00

  Like what would one of them, okay, what about the one that likes to travel? What do you think he would do?

• 6:28Speaker 01

  He should be a photographer, National Geographic. He does amazing landscape and nature pictures of animals and stuff. Really good. Loves it. And then when I tell him to, he's like, eh, it's not gonna make enough money. I'd rather be a marketer. And I'm like...

• 6:40Speaker 00

  But it's not about the money.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  And you can just, and they travel anyways. I'm like, you should just go take pictures. And if you're really good at what you do, I believe someone would pay you a hundred and two hundred grand a year, no problem.

• 6:50Speaker 00

  Not only that, he'll find someone amazing to marry to you because, oh, what do you do? I'm a photographer for National Geographic. That's pretty sexy.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Yes, because he ideally wants to marry someone who travels and wants to take photos.

• 7:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  And I'm like, you'd be a perfect National Geographic photographer.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  You should send him this clip.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  And I believe if you're really good at taking photos, people will pay you more than a hundred grand a year.

• 7:11Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure. For sure. We know, something we should talk about because ChatGPT ads is coming out soon. So Daniel Priestley tweeted this out. I used to see this guy on Clubhouse all the time. Clubhouse. So ChatGPT experimenting with advertising in their free subscription. I'm old enough to remember when Google started running ads and for a few years you can get warm leads for pennies. I also remember when Facebook launched ads and they had so many eyeballs and so the first advertiser costs nothing to get clients for the first few years. Corporate advertisers don't move fast on new things. They take six months to plan and six months to test before they go in heavy. So right now, ChatGPT has almost a billion users a week. If they start running ads, they will have a lot of eyeballs, not so many advertisers until the corporates come in. What do you think?

• 7:50Speaker 01

  That's wrong. That's totally wrong. It is of course always cheaper at the beginning, but you know how many corporations I know that are lining up?

• 7:57Speaker 00

  I think they're already, because they've seen this movie already.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, they've seen this so many times. This is nothing new. And they've already been making the push. How many calls do you get on a monthly basis that comes like, we need ChatGPT to recommend our products and services? Same here. Probably one of the biggest requests. They're already on the ads kick and they've been waiting for ads to come out from day one.

• 8:18Speaker 00

  Yep. Yep. And Sam Altman tweeted this. I mean, he said, you know, we're starting to test ads in the free tier, but here's a signal for you all. An example of ads I like are on Instagram where I found stuff I like that I otherwise would never have, would have. We will try to make ads ever more useful to users. So he's implying here, it's probably gonna look more like a social feed.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  You do know who runs their ads, right?

• 8:41Speaker 00

  About like an ex Meta person?

• 8:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know the person's name exactly.

• 8:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  But their LinkedIn doesn't say it, so I don't want to say it. But uh, uh, uh, Fidji Samo came from Facebook. She tweeted about ads. She's high up.

• 8:56Speaker 00

  Wasn't the Instacart one?

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, she was ex Instacart CEO. Then she became CEO of OpenAI Applications. And I believe ads is underneath her. But if you look at a lot of the people that ran ads at Meta, they are at OpenAI.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  But here's the thing that I think is the question we should answer here is how hard should you bet? And I think you should.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Bet extremely hard.

• 9:17Speaker 00

  You should press hard on this. I mean, the demand is already there.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Demand's there.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  I remember when Facebook ads first came out, I'm like, man, didn't press hard enough. But that's like the crappy like side ads. Doesn't matter, it's gonna get better. You press hard because this is one of those situations where it's always been like this. It starts out very cheap and it gets ever more expensive and it never really gets cheaper. So.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 9:37Speaker 00

  So here's a question for you. How hard, when you think about your clients, like you're not working directly with their clients, but how do you think they should allocate their budget?

• 9:47Speaker 01

  I don't look at it as budgets. I look at it as spend whatever's profitable. And most companies, even though they have budgets, every time they exceed their budgets and their campaigns are profitable, they can go to CFO even if it's publicly traded. And they're given as much money as they want, as long as they stay within some profitability band.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Almost any CFO is gonna approve some testing. You could take ten thousand, thousand dollars, pick a number and start off with it. If you're getting good traction, your finance people will let you ramp it up. I've never heard a finance person says, oh, it's highly profitable? You're limited on what you can spend. They usually say, well, spend as much as you can, as long as it's profitable, but just make sure we're not in a cash flow crunch. And they'll ask questions, when do we pay the bill? When do we collect the revenues? And as long as you're not in a cash flow crunch and the numbers pan up, people are like, spend, baby, spend.

• 10:39Speaker 00

  Now, because we're talking about ChatGPT, Microsoft actually revealed how to get traffic from ChatGPT. So.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  I'm curious on this one. Did they talk about stuff that was five months old or 10 months old?

• 10:51Speaker 00

  This article is too long.

• 10:54Speaker 00

  So here's what it shows. So it's another one of these articles, okay? So Microsoft just released a here's how to get traffic from ChatGPT guide. It's gotten surprisingly little attention. Let's go over it together. So.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  It's not that long?

• 11:09Speaker 00

  It's pretty long. So Microsoft's central message is, in the doc, is that retail competition is shifting from being found to being chosen. I'm just gonna read the headers. Microsoft also broke down the difference to them between AEO and GEO. Microsoft makes a very clear distinction. Agentic engine optimization, in their estimation, optimizes content and data so AI assistants can, co-pilots can find it, understand it, summarize it. Just not getting to the point.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  On that note, when you're talking about AEO versus GEO, remember at the Atrus conference, you said search everywhere optimization was gonna win? We hear AEO more from customers more than anything else.

• 11:47Speaker 00

  Patrick Stokks was the one that said he saw search everywhere optimization more. And I actually asked, the other day, I asked my gong. I said, hey, look at our sales calls for, in the last six months or so. And it's answer engine optimization and generative engine optimization.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're seeing AEO pick up more steam than anything else.

• 12:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then, you know what I did with that? I said, hey, now map it with the Atrus MCP to see what keywords are exploding. It's actually the GEO and, GEO and AEO are exploding in trends right now.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I'm trying to get a key takeaway for this one. Okay, Microsoft then went into how AI actually decides what to recommend. Okay, so there's, there's a couple of things here. So AI does not rely on one data source, but rather uses crawled web data, product feeds and APIs, live website data, okay? And like AI reasoning includes Patagonia and North Face make quality jackets. Hiking jackets need to be lightweight and waterproof. Your model's $179 and in stock, so feeds. Brand X is known for hiking equipment, so brand positioning, okay? Number five, Microsoft then really breaks down the journey from SEO to AEO to GEO. Then Microsoft talks about three data layers, the control. You know what? I'm just gonna use Grok to summarize this, because this is really annoying to read. That's what I'm gonna do.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Yes, it's right there, on that page.

• 13:05Speaker 01

  Give me the key points.

• 13:07Speaker 00

  And then we can finally talk about it. See, guys, maybe don't write an article on X that just talks about another article. Like, it it's just talking about that. It's not even giving me key points.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Let's see.

• 13:19Speaker 00

  Here, pick one. Pick pick something else while I'm waiting for this.

• 13:22Speaker 01

  On a on a random note, the Google founders all left to Florida to avoid the billionaire tax. But it looks like it's facing tons of opposition. A lot of reporters are writing that it probably won't pass. And these are left-leaning sites.

• 13:36Speaker 00

  So, OK, I got the summary here. So Alex Groberman's post shares an in-depth breakdown of Microsoft's October 2025 guide on optimizing content for AI search engines like ChatGPT, emphasizing generative engine optimization techniques

• 13:53Speaker 00

  to boost visibility in traffic. Key recommendations from the guide includes using structured data formats like Q and A, lists and schema markup for easy AI parsing, with data showing a 357% year-over-year increase in AI referrals to top sites, reaching 1.13 billion visits by June 2025.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  And the post highlights the users under the radar status despite its practical aligning for value for SEO pros.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  And

• 14:21Speaker 01

  I'm still waiting for the meat. Come on, Grok. Summarize better.

• 14:24Speaker 00

  OK, here, it gave me more. So

• 14:27Speaker 00

  core recommendation is the structured piece. That's all. That's the only meat. Guys.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I told you. What did I say at the beginning?

• 14:32Speaker 00

  How did this get a lot of reach?

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Five to 10 months old or something like that.

• 14:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. OK. So this is actually really annoying. OK, so this guy got 100,000 views on this using this. See, this is why you know the X articles are getting a ton of views right now. This thing that I'm sorry, Alex, this added little to no value here. OK, it got 100,000 views on it.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  So as we were talking,

• 14:54Speaker 01

  2:54 PM, someone messages me. You need a post and repurpose content for X articles ASAP. This is after we were talking about it during the episode. I don't know the person. They just have my phone number. $1 million reward for the best article this month. Algo's boosting him. You'll shit on everyone. Excuse that person's language. I won't. I was like, LOL, I was just talking about this. I won't win because I don't write about politics, but I'm publishing articles soon. And they said, nah, I'm sure you have a chance because. Nikita, I don't know who Nikita is.

• 15:28Speaker 00

  Nikita Beard, head of product at X.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  Is almost mostly overseeing the campaign and he's heavily invested in crypto X because he has equity in Solana and other stuff. I've been, I've seen dozens of articles, but they're whatever. Worth a shot, MIO, or in my humble opinion, and you can probably bait engagement from big folks. I'm like.

• 15:50Speaker 00

  You don't need to bait engagement, just write what you're right.

• 15:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I already know I'm not gonna win. I'm not gonna win like an article like Deloitte stole. I'm not saying they did, but I think the article was like Deloitte seventy-five billion or whatever scam.

• 16:02Speaker 00

  You didn't need to do that. There's one talking about context layering and I read a couple of these articles and there's one like that's a AR article. It got like seven to eight million views on it or like a couple of these Claude code setup ones, millions and millions of views. And so.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  No, no, no, the article on Deloitte, the seventy-four billion dollar canter.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  Thirty million.

• 16:18Speaker 01

  Thirty million, that one is gonna be too hard to beat. You can, it's too hard to get the views.

• 16:22Speaker 00

  Forget the one million.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I meant for the one million.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  I'm just talking about, I'm just talking about the views. I think the views are worth it because the thing with me is like X has a lot of smart users. You know, yesterday, you know what I felt was disingenuous similar web was like,

• 16:38Speaker 00

  Threads beat out X in terms of daily active users, but that's not the, that's not the complete story. I was only looking at mobile, but when you look at the reality, the total number of daily active users for X is like two hundred fifty million or so. And whereas the total for Threads is like one forty-one, which is still high. But also when I look at Threads, it's just people complaining about politics and how their life sucks. So.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. X is very similar. I see people complaining a lot about politics.

• 17:04Speaker 00

  I don't actually see that. I, mine's is if you look at my feed, it's all, it's all AI stuff and people talking about what they built, what they're sharing.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  I see many politics.

• 17:12Speaker 00

  You see, you see all the shit, the, that's shit, sorry, the, the cool stuff I share with you on, oh, you're drinking a bad water bottle. Oh, you should, you know, have pomegranate juice. It'll like clean up your plaque in your arteries. That's the stuff I read, so.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Oh, probably pomegranate juice cleans up the plaque in the arteries.

• 17:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  I should drink of some.

• 17:28Speaker 00

  And then I, I shared it with my dad because you know, when you're older, you have more plaque in your arteries, right? Leads to heart attack. But what it said was like, the reason why pomegranate juice doesn't get marketed as much is because. That it's not helpful to the medical companies to market that because it's not a high dollar, uh, high cost treatment. So it's just like a, you know, natural remedy type of thing.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  I just wrote myself an email to buy pomegranate juice.

• 17:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. So actually, I mean, when you, when you think about these, um,

• 17:57Speaker 00

  what tends, let's talk about this because you just said you don't think you're going to get that much reach on X articles, right?

• 18:01Speaker 01

  No, no, I, I, I think I'm going to get good reach. I meant like, people are messaging me like, oh, you can win a potential million dollars or one person mess me. I'm like, there's no way because I don't blog about or write about politics. I think I get hundreds and thousands of views, no problem. I don't see myself getting 10 million views in an article when it's not a mainstream topic.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  Well, our, our point here is like TAM, your, your, your topic TAM is not that big, right? Because if you're, if we're talking about dating, we're talking about politics, we're talking about money, we're talking about health. Of course you're going to get a lot more views. When you're just talking about marketing, it's a little different.

• 18:34Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 18:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. But the reason why I'm excited about this is because this is actually where we started in our careers, blogging.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  And I already have a ton of content. I just have to copy and paste and put that stuff out there.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I'm actually more excited to talk about all that stuff I'm, I'm doing with, with Claude code. And so that's exciting to me and I, I like writing, so.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think it's going to be fun.

• 18:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. And you know what's interesting too? I, I, I've been experimenting this on, with my YouTube recently. Because Claude code is trending up so much, I'm just cranking out a bunch of these Claude code videos. And they're like one out of 10s on, on YouTube. I'm like, oh, I'm just going to keep doing this for a little bit. Yeah.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  I like it.

• 19:08Speaker 00

  Saves money too. Yeah. All right. We have one more to do.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  All right. Let's see, let's pick, uh,

• 19:18Speaker 01

  let's see, we already talked about the death of software companies. Uh, oh, uh, the streamer vibe coding to 1 million. Who's the streamer that coded to 1 million dollars?

• 19:29Speaker 00

  So this guy over here is running a cluster of Claude code terminals, um, vibe coding apps until he hits 1 million dollars. Most interesting person shipping I've seen recently. He's on here too. So you can see he's like, like, he's like dancing. He's like vibe coding and dancing.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  And pushups.

• 19:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 19:47Speaker 00

  That's his dog.

• 19:49Speaker 00

  So I guess that's all he's gonna do. It's like a spectacle, right? And if we look at his YouTube, let's just look at his YouTube for a moment. Okay, so so far he has 34,000 subscribers.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  I already like this guy.

• 20:01Speaker 00

  Bridge Mind, okay?

• 20:02Speaker 01

  He's entertaining.

• 20:03Speaker 00

  And vibe coding an app until I make 1 million dollars. So streamed 4 days ago, 18,000 views, 28,000 views, 28,000 views. Let me tell you why this is smart. So he's also vibe coding when he's not talking. When I spend time on this, I should just turn on my my stream over the weekend and just turn it on like just talk. Look at this, amazing, right? And and people follow you for the spectacle and they also learn from you as well.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  You should start streaming.

• 20:26Speaker 00

  I do stream. I'm streaming right now.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  No, you should stream every single day while you code.

• 20:31Speaker 00

  I probably will, because every single day now, yesterday even when I was going to bed, I was going to bed, I was like, whoa, I actually shit 5 things today on top of all my other responsibilities. This is great, but this is cool. I think if you can have a cool headline like vibe coding until I make a million dollars, 10 million dollars or whatever, you're for sure gonna get a lot of views, because people are interested in the spectacle.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  And by the way, check this out. So he's been doing this for 120 days. That's why he has so many subs so far. So 120 days, he's vibe coded until he makes a million dollars. How much revenue do you think he's made so far?

• 21:01Speaker 01

  30,000?

• 21:02Speaker 00

  No, 3,106 dollars and 90 cents.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  I hope he gets to 30,000 soon, at least.

• 21:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, because here's, when he streamed 4 days ago, that was a 3 hour stream. And the day before that, uh, it was a 6, 6 hour 30 minute stream. Which seems crazy, guys, but it's not that crazy when you're on this stuff. It goes so quickly.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's already doing it, so it's like you're just recording your normal life.

• 21:25Speaker 00

  Here's a question. Do you think I should start a new channel for this one?

• 21:28Speaker 01

  You should.

• 21:29Speaker 00

  That's a lot of work.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Put it on the same channel.

• 21:32Speaker 00

  Put it on the same channel, yeah. Something that follow me by. Oh, maybe I'll do it. Maybe you'll start doing it too. Maybe we'll do it together.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  No, I'm pretty private with my personal life.

• 21:40Speaker 00

  What do you mean? It's live streaming.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  I don't stream my life or in my house.

• 21:44Speaker 00

  No, not in my house. I'm just on my computer. You're on your computer just talking like you're doing a webinar.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  No, but this guy's filming him in the room.

• 21:50Speaker 00

  I wouldn't do that.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  That's too much. It's like invasion of privacy.

• 21:53Speaker 00

  I want to be like dancing and doing all this stuff.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  No, make some more entertaining. You should be dancing and everything. Go back to your EDC days, you know?

• 22:00Speaker 00

  Anyway, guys, that's it for today. Check him out, um, Bridge Mind AI, and we'll catch you next time.