PoliTicks: Sedition or Speech? Trump Demands Trials for Six House Democrats

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  Whoops.

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  Smooth as butter.

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  Because it automatically takes you out. If you hit like end stream, it automatically removes the videos. I was in my head thinking it automatically puts them in, but it doesn't. Anyway, welcome to politics, guys. We're back. It's been a long two weeks. It seems like eternities go by between these shows with the amount of crap that happens every day under Donald Trump. Between Donald Trump, between the psychos in Congress, between marches Islamic versus, you know, Christian Christmas parades. It's just, it's a lot. It's a lot to deal with.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  Hi, Brian.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Hey, what's up? We should probably let everyone know that we actually broadcast. We're a couple of light years away from the earth. That's why things go so fast on earth. Wait, no, I don't know if that works. I don't know if that works.

• 1:28Speaker 00

  Well, you're saying things.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Blew my mind. It'd be slower, right? I don't.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Are we talking about how November flew by?

• 1:35Speaker 00

  It really did.

• 1:36Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:37Speaker 00

  Like quickly.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  The whole, the whole year flew by, but we were talking about how, how with Trump. Like we have two weeks between politics shows and it's like, where do you even start?

• 1:49Speaker 00

  It's, I mean, you know, I know one of the things we're talking about today is this sedition or speech, right? The title of the episode where, yeah, it's like, and this is out of left field. Like on top of the other stuff, like we'll talk about this leaked Ukraine peace deal today, but on top of that, on top of like, you know, you've got Donald Trump signing the Epstein files release. I don't know how much you want to talk about. That today that he's like, there's nothing, there's no files. Well, we signed this document. We're going to release the files. Like it's the we're files. Like, I don't know. I don't know what we're going to get out of these. I'm excited to see, excited to find out, but it's, I have a feeling it's going to be just a nothing burger. It's going to be redacted. Otherwise, you know, there's no way they would have seen the light of day, even under Congress's, you know, threaten and vote.

• 2:32Speaker 00

  There's no way these things are going to come out if there's going to be anything in there that's actually of value.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just. It's so like, when you look at Donald Trump, the way that he has played the Epstein files. It just, it doesn't make any sense. Like unless he was. The only thing that would make sense, and I'm not saying he was doing this, but this would be some, some 4D chess, which, you know, some, some claim that Donald Trump is always playing 4D chess.

• 3:00Speaker 00

  Kamala Harris playing 3D chess.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  It's not for you. Maybe, uh, 1D chess. But so with Donald Trump, like.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Was he just playing it this way, like calling it a hoax and calling it not real? And why are you still talking about Epstein? And because he wanted to get the Democrats to go, oh, release the files. You're in the files, release the files. That would make sense. Aside from that, I can't.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  I, unless he's actually in the files and doing like criminal things. Aside from one of those two things, it doesn't really make sense.

• 3:38Speaker 03

  Donors. I mean, that's what I think it comes down to. It's money. It's always money.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  So the donors are in the files?

• 3:47Speaker 03

  I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, look at the names have already been kind of leaked. There, there was Larry Summers, former Harvard president, and then former secretary of treasury with the Clinton administration, I think. Keep me honest there, gents. Um, so I mean, he, he's noted in there. You have. Oh goodness, what's the guy's name? Um, Massey said his name on a, on the floor. He, he's a billionaire donor. I forget the guy's name. Um.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Is it Abe, like Avelson? Big fan of the show. Big fan of the show.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  It might be, I'm not a hundred percent. Yeah, big fan. Um, but like there, there's a lot of these, these big names that I think are tied up. Um, I also think there's a lot of noted people that, did you guys notice in Mike Johnson's, uh, his like protesting between the congressional vote and then the senate vote? He's like, it needs to be amendments because there's, you know, people that are implicated here that are, are like national, uh, like not, he's a national security threat. It's something like that. National security.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  Directly? Okay. Yeah. So like that right there, that tells me that, okay, that means that there's somebody either currently in government or somebody who's been recently in government that if they are exposed to have been on this list, it raises all sorts of red flags. And I think that's why, cause the red flags, I mean, there's already a lot of red flags that are up. So I think they're just concerned that there, there's gonna be more red flags, um, that they get waived because of this. It's just more fuel to the fire. So.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  So I, I haven't, I haven't been following this, um, that closely. Um, so what, what I'm wondering is it, it just seems like everybody's name is in this, is, is, you know, has had some contact with him over the past, you know, 30 years, you know?

• 5:41Speaker 01

  And so what I'm just wondering is when it comes to the files, are there sort of like, you know, different divisions where it's sort of like, okay, here are the people at Harvard who didn't have sex, didn't go to the island necessarily, but this guy gave them money or connections. Now here we got, you know, the guys who were just all about the island. That's all they did. Here's one guy, a janitor on the island. He didn't really have that much money, but whatever his name is there. So it's like, how are we, um, you know, deciphering, you know, which ones are the criminal in term, the quick, the criminal relationships versus the ones that were just, you know, professional relationships or like, hey, this guy's got a lot of money. We need money. We're gonna, we're gonna talk to this guy and, um.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  So I don't know. I don't know. You know where we are.

• 6:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I mean, I would say it's a Lolita Express is definitely an indicator to me that if you've been on the plane, you probably are a scuz bag. If you've been in his house, because didn't they have recording, you know, like, didn't they find recording stuff in his house as well? Like, you know, peepholes and cameras. So that's an indicator that something creepy is going on. But yeah, to your point, I mean, even the email that's supposed to implicate Donald Trump, it's it's vague enough. And I was talking about this on my show this week.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  You're talking about the one with with with him and his brother? Is it Epstein and his brother talking or?

• 7:01Speaker 00

  Well, it's it was no, it was somebody was like, well, Virginia Guafrey, or whatever her name is, she said that he did not do anything to her. But there's one email that just says victim. And so you don't even know who it is. And it could be, you know, victim could mean that this is one of the sex prostitutes victim could be in just a lady that was involved in it like it's it's the redactions bug me in that way. And I know they want to protect these people's identities. But by doing that, you leave the door open of like, we don't need that. What this person could have been like a waitstaff. And they're calling her a victim because Donald Trump hit on her or something. So there's just so much gray area there. And this is why I think we're gonna get nothing out of this. Because even even the people that you think would be implicated, even if they were on the plane, unless there's videos,

• 7:46Speaker 00

  unless there's emails of FC being like, I got him on tape, you know, butt raping Suzie that's 14. I still don't know where you're gonna get out of them.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  By the way, Brian, do you know what email John was referring to?

• 8:00Speaker 00

  Not with Epstein.

• 8:01Speaker 02

  The Bubba, the Bubba email?

• 8:03Speaker 03

  Fill him in, John.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess it was between Epstein and his brother. Is that right, Brian?

• 8:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  And I don't know, it's in this sort of weird like, it's, it's, it sounds like a joking email, but essentially, I can't not have it in front of me. But I think the the brother jokes about Trump blowing Bubba. Bubba would be Bill Clinton.

• 8:28Speaker 00

  Oh, I do know about. Yeah, I don't believe that for a.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Which of course, the left runs with it like this is industrial evidence that Donald Trump was blowing Bill Clinton.

• 8:38Speaker 00

  But there's no way.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  But if, wait a minute, let's just imagine it happened, right? That means that the left has to like.

• 8:44Speaker 02

  I prefer not to.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Right?

• 8:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  He's got, he's awesome now, like this is.

• 8:48Speaker 00

  He's earned diversity points. Yeah, he's one of the.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  For this whole time.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  I had no idea. Well, knowing Donald Trump, though, if he was gonna suck Bill Clinton's dick, he would have poured, you know, liquid gold on top of it first, like a Game of Thrones style before sucking it. Cause you know that man loves a gold plated anything.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  Oh, he would, he would have, um, he would have prepared it, you know, what was it that the assault bay guy?

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  That just, just really just over the top, unnecessary, making it more costly than it's worth and like, you know, you just do it, you'd be better off just, you know, blowing a rib eye, you know, than sucking off this dude. Well, also, how much of this is, you know, you know, I mean, what, you know, we, we're not, look, we're, we're not at Jeffrey Epstein's by any means, the, the four of us. Uh, we don't have the power and connections, but you know, we fuck around when we're, when we're sending emails to each other and text messaging and, and all that. Like, again, how do you decipher what's, what's joke? What's serious? Like, you know, what is, you know, the version of, oh yeah, Trump blowing, blowing bubba?

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, he, he had Hillary and Bill at his wedding, you know, like there, they had a relation, a former, you know, relationship here. Is he, is him blowing bubba sucking up to him? You know, not figuratively as opposed to.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Like ass kissing.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  Uh, you know, exactly. So.

• 10:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:10Speaker 01

  I, I don't know. It just seems like, um, uh, there is so much about this, this world of elites that is so foreign and alien and I don't understand. But then there are elements of it where I'm like, well, we can get this, right? We can understand, right? Like the idea that fucking, that every single person on that list wants to fucking rape, like underage girls just seems a little, that's a little much. I just don't believe that too many people are actually in, into that, you know?

• 10:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I don't know. I don't know.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Everybody who's talked to Jeff.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  Shut up. I'm pretty sure a lot of them are, are very, uh, very much open to Kitty fucking personally, but.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  I, I, I don't, I, I, I, I think it's probably.

• 11:02Speaker 02

  A small, a small group of the elites that are, that are actually into that. I hope so. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope none are into it, but I think it's pretty evident that, that some are. But yeah.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  Why would we be having us chat?

• 11:15Speaker 02

  I think part of the thing with the files though, is like, yeah, we talk about like all these names are in there. People, he's, you know, you know, gave money to Harvard and all these different studies and scientists. And it's weird, all the different things that he was involved in, which kind of lends credence to the fact that yeah, maybe he was a spy, keeping these, all these people under his thumb. Assad spy, people have said, I didn't say it. I didn't say it, just heard it. But yeah, like I don't necessarily think that if someone flew on his plane that they, you know, are a pedophile. Maybe they just flew on his plane. So I, I don't know. There needs to be evidence. Like, and I think that's kind of like the tricky part with this is people, I've seen people I respect post, release the Epstein list, every name on that list, they should be go to prison or be thrown in a woodchip.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Or it's like, wait a minute, just because they had a conversation with him, like, we don't even know. You have to have evidence and context and understand actually what happened. You can't just throw everything out. Like that's, that's insanity.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  What's going on with that commercial? There was a commercial of the, the victims that were, you know, the women, they were holding up pictures, I guess of themselves from that, from that time. What, what is that? What is that for? Are they, is there like a documentary coming out or something like?

• 12:30Speaker 02

  I think it was for the vote.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  I don't, I'm, I'm very doubtful. They were actually trying to sell a product, right? Like it's not a commercial.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  I think it was for the vote itself. I think it was to promote the vote. Yeah.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  That'd be just one of the worst, like, remember those like Tam Paks was here commercials? Like that would be just a terrible jump the shark moment on that. But I think I saw a number of people talking, saying that, oh, why don't they say what, who, who was there? Like, why don't they reveal the names? But haven't they? I mean, haven't those women come out and said, yeah, these are the, the men that were, I were there. Really? Yeah, not really. There's.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  Vaguely, like that Virginia, Virginia, however you say her last name.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Goofy.

• 13:10Speaker 02

  Galifey.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  Goofray.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. She said a, a prime, a prominent prime minister.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Just name them. Yeah. Don't, why are you dancing around the name? Just say it. And she said, so like, oh, because libel laws in the UK, it's like, well then come to Americans, say it.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  What? Yeah. It seems insane.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  Well, anyway, I guess we'll wait and see. We've got other topics to get into anyway. Speaking of this interesting, you know, again, hard to keep up with it, but the Democrats have now gone on record as wanting to encourage the military not to listen to Donald Trump whatsoever. And let me make sure this is actually sharing.

• 13:54Speaker 03

  Bold move, Cotton.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  Okay, you got it pulled up too? Do you have the video?

• 13:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, I have the video right here. Hold on. Here's the video. So here we go. So, and again, I just love that these people are just, they think it's a-okay. That it's just like coming out here. It's just so odd to have an ad like this, or an internet video like this, where people are just openly telling the military to defy the president.

• 14:16Speaker 04

  I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin.

• 14:18Speaker 00

  Senator Mark Kelly. Representative Chris Deluzio.

• 14:21Speaker 04

  Congressman Matty Goodlander. Representative Chrissy Hulahan. Congressman Jason Crow. I was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer.

• 14:28Speaker 00

  Former Navy.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  Former paratrooper and Army Ranger.

• 14:31Speaker 05

  Former intelligence officer.

• 14:33Speaker 04

  Former Air Force.

• 14:34Speaker 06

  We want to speak directly to members of the military.

• 14:36Speaker 04

  And the intelligence community. Who take risks each day to keep Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress, pressure right now. Americans trust their military. But that trust is at risk.

• 14:47Speaker 06

  This administration is pitting our uniformed military.

• 14:50Speaker 04

  And intelligence community professionals. Against American citizens.

• 14:53Speaker 06

  Like us, you all swore an oath.

• 14:55Speaker 05

  To protect and defend this Constitution.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.

• 15:02Speaker 06

  Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

• 15:06Speaker 04

  You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

• 15:15Speaker 06

  We know this is hard. And that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  But whether you're serving in the CIA. In the Army. Or Navy. The Air Force.

• 15:22Speaker 06

  Your vigilance is critical.

• 15:24Speaker 04

  And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever. The American people need you, need you to stand up for our laws.

• 15:31Speaker 06

  Our Constitution and who we are as Americans.

• 15:35Speaker 04

  Don't give up.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Don't give up.

• 15:37Speaker 04

  Don't give up. Don't skip up the ship.

• 15:41Speaker 00

  The ship? Ah, it's so lame. God, it's so lame. I mean, I agree with it conceptually, right? That, yeah, you shouldn't obey illegal orders, but to pretend that all presidents haven't given legal orders is one thing, right? Because obviously they have, and obviously there's all sorts of, you know, black ops going on, even the support for Ukraine, I would argue, is illegal. But what do you think of this? Is this something that you could prosecute these people for doing? Or is it, you know, is it just them say, you know, waves being a liberal flag around and just trying to get themselves some attention? Well, on that note, I, you know, on this episode, I'm going to be asking a lot of questions because I, I don't know as much as you guys, but, you know, what are the specific orders

• 16:26Speaker 00

  that, you know, they're talking about? And are those orders?

• 16:30Speaker 02

  Nobody knows.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  Right?

• 16:31Speaker 03

  I think we're referring to the ICE stuff, right? Like, I think that's the vibe I'm getting.

• 16:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but, you know, even the ICE stuff is not, what ICE is doing isn't illegal. ICE is doing ICE's job. So if you have a problem with ICE, then okay, try to abolish ICE. But they don't seem to be going out of their way to do anything illegal. And the deployment of the National Guard, I guess maybe they're arguing that that's illegal, you know, because it's going against governor's wishes, but I don't know. There's certainly legal precedent for it, so.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  I just, I just asked Grok, so we'll see what, see what comes up.

• 17:08Speaker 00

  I heard Grok was spouting, uh, all sorts of compliments for Elon Musk. Somebody had messed with the algorithm or something like that. So if it tells you he's got an eight inch cock, you know what's happening.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Well, maybe Grok knows information we don't have. I don't know.

• 17:22Speaker 00

  It could.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  I mean, of all, of all the AI that would know that, it would be Grok.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. But I mean, it certainly does seem that it's, they're just throwing out a vague instruction to the military to disobey the president's orders. And I, here again, I don't think.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  Or at least get in the ground government to do it.

• 17:40Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Or at least give him the ground cover.

• 17:43Speaker 00

  Right, yeah, yeah, to say, oh, well, we were, we were, you know, fighting back against a unconstitutional order, giving the leadership. Yeah, so I don't know, but it's like, I doubt anybody's gonna do anything like that. I would be shocked to see a military rebel against Donald Trump's orders. I mean, number one, I think probably most of the military is behind Donald Trump, presumably compared to

• 18:07Speaker 03

  I would guess.

• 18:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, Democrat. So the odds of that are slim and none to begin with, but it is odd to see. I mean, first time in my lifetime I've ever seen politicians step up and encourage the military to disavow orders.

• 18:22Speaker 03

  I'm not trying to do the whole, like, what aboutism stuff too, but just imagine it was the others, like, it was flipped, like, it was a bunch of Republicans who, like, you know, the Dan Crenshaw's of the world, right? Who were like, you know, don't, you don't want to listen to Joe Biden. Just imagine the MSNBC or the CNN or the ABC screaming heads, they'd be freaking out. They'd be like, this is a threat to democracy. And so, yeah.

• 18:46Speaker 00

  They're fomenting insurrection. They're encouraging civil war. They're trying to over, they're trying to military coup. Absolutely. They would absolutely be crying that to the hills.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Recently, I saw a journalist, Andy Ngo, on his Substack. He talked about, yeah, I'll put a, I'll put a link in the comments if you guys want to bring it up, bring it up. It was five far-left extremists in Texas have admitted in federal court to being Antifa members in a North Texas Antifa cell that carried out an ambush terror attack on an ICE facility, right? So here you have a situation where you do have people carrying out attacks on ICE. And I haven't heard, you know, a clarion call from, at least from Democrats, talking

• 19:40Speaker 01

  about how awful this is. But ultimately, I mean, if what you're, you know, if what you're saying is that you have members of ICE carrying out illegal orders, right? That they're acting illegally, I think that is going to give a lot of, say, concerned citizens the thought that, oh, well, they're doing something illegal, we should go over and we should, and we should stop them, we should put our bodies on the line, you know, to the point where

• 20:08Speaker 00

  Uh, you know, I don't know if that's going to be a thing, you know, like in, in New York or, you know, Seattle, or if there are other, you know, mayors and stuff of cities who are basically saying, we want ICE out. Uh, and what is that? You know, what is that gonna, gonna look like? You know? Um, I'm, I'm hoping that, that it doesn't lead to, you know, more blood spilled, you know?

• 20:30Speaker 02

  It's, it's crazy to me. And I think I talked about this a little bit on my show this week. The pushback that the left is, is showing to ICE with these deportations. But when you look at deportation numbers, like they're barely up, even compared to like Biden. It's not like there's some mass deportation that's been happening. It's just been publicized by the left. And really, as someone who voted for Trump, because I, I, I'd like to see criminals and people who are dangerous deported. And I, I wouldn't mind seeing actual, you know, mass deportations. But I, I don't think that that's at all really what's happening when you look at it.

• 21:11Speaker 00

  No, I mean, it's mostly that the people coming in is vastly down. I mean, it's insane how much that drop has happened, just of people coming into the country. But yeah, deportations aren't going crazy. And then, of course, there's always cherry picking too. You know, what stories that the media wants to share about these ICE? Oh, a little old lady. It's all this, you know, a, a child. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, this is one.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  Also outright lies. Yeah. They'll take, they'll take a story like they'll say, ICE went into a daycare and arrested, and arrested an innocent immigrant. Actually, what happened was, um, she got pulled over for, you know, recklessly, uh, speeding with her vehicle and fled into a daycare. And then they went in. Yeah, it's like, it's

• 21:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, they make it sound like they're arresting a teacher. This poor immigrant teacher. It's like, that, I know.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  There was a bunch of left wing influence who's, who ran with this video that was going viral back when all the mass deportation started. And it was one clip of, there was this little girl who was crying. Like mama, no mama, right? And, and it's like, everybody's like, oh my God, everybody's reacting to it like, oh my heart. And it turns out it some, some like content creator took one video that was in a completely unrelated case of something. And then took the audio from a movie of a, like, just seen a movie, put it over top of it. And all these left wing influencers bought it hook, line and sinker. It's, it's the equivalent of the, the Ukraine ghost of Kiev pilot, right? Remember when that was like the story of, of that whole debacle?

• 22:48Speaker 02

  That reminds me of the time, uh, Fox News, when Ron Paul won the CPAC straw poll, I think it was the second time he ran for president. And they took out cheers from the crowd and they put in poos.

• 23:00Speaker 00

  No.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  Is that, is that where we get the meme where he's going like this with his hands, like the celebration meme? Oh my God.

• 23:08Speaker 00

  I used to love how you would run Paul, they would, they would show like, uh, polling results and somehow he would not be there. It'd be like, Mike Huckabee at three percent. And then there was a weird gap. What's it, who's in that next spot? It was like Ron Paul at seven percent. It is, would, they would just omit that from the, the actual.

• 23:25Speaker 03

  And that's Michelle Bachmann. Yeah.

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. You're like, what the fuck is happening here?

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Well, guys, with so much of these, um, with so much of the examples that, that I've seen, like, you know, kind of mainstream press run with, whether it's, you know, like the New York Times or the Washington Post and stuff. It is kind of like what, you know, what John said, you know, there's a narrative that, oh, this woman ran and, you know, this woman was, you know, working in this daycare center and then they came in and got her. And with, with so many of these examples, you have what begins like sort of in, in the upper paragraphs, like a really, you know, a vulnerable person, someone who your, you know, your heart goes out to them. And then when you get to like paragraph 12, it's revealed, oh yeah, they have the criminal, this criminal history and this is what they, what they did.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  And look, I mean, you know, with all of the, the immigrants that we have in the United States, I think there are a lot of people that you could, you know, that are, you know, innocent in that they're not criminals, uh, or, you know, always, you know, doing really, you know, terrible shit that you could use as examples of like, hey, look how this, what impact this policy is having. But for some reason they keep going with like all these other cases where. Like, for example, uh, I know that when it comes to, uh, like bringing cases to the Supreme Court, uh, lawyers are often, they want to find, you know, uh, the best case that they can bring. They want to find like someone like, like, please, is there a grandma who needs a gun to defend herself?

• 24:56Speaker 01

  Because she lives in this really terrible neighborhood, like, can we, you know, can we use her? Right? So there's all this vetting about, you know, trying to find the perfect representation of what you want to push. And when it comes to this, I don't feel like people are putting in the work of like, like, you know, let's not, you know, put this person forward to be the forward, the face of, you know, the, uh, the ICE raids, you know? Needs better casting. I guess that's what I'm saying.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Agreed. It would require actual journalism and that's, uh, it's not something they really do, do they?

• 25:30Speaker 03

  They leave with narrative. Is it Michael Malice? The, uh, the corporate press is not, what was it? It's that, it's not that they aren't factual, it's just that they're not truthful, right? They'll put the facts in the article, but they'll, they'll present things in such a way that they'll make you question the narrative, right? They'll, they'll use weird phraseology and you're like, wait, let me read that again. Like, let me make sure you understood what they said. Um, like they'll put commas in weird spots just to like, try and allude to something that didn't actually happen, but so long as it fits their narrative. And I mean, like, I grew up, my dad was a county legislator in my home county for 15 years, right? And I saw it on a local level, like, like the local newspaper doing that kind of stuff.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  And it just, it really makes your eyes open because like, it's across the board. It's local, it's national, it's state, right? And, and this is just kind of like how it is. Um, doesn't make it right, but like, it happens. And I guess the, the, that's why alternative media has really popped up like it has because for a while, there was no counter to that. That was just, that was, that was the narrative. And to your point, there's a lot of people who, they would just read that and they'd be like, yeah, that sounds about right. And they wouldn't even ask a question.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  The Patton Oswalt's of the world, you know, again.

• 26:45Speaker 03

  Oh, geez, that interview with him and Bill Maher.

• 26:47Speaker 00

  Oh, I mean, you talk about exposing yourself as a fucking completely ignorant doofus. I mean, Patton Oswalt has no clue about anything going on that's negative in the world, apparently, other than, you know, his hate for Donald Trump.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  Oblivious.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  No idea about the trans stuff, no illegal, you know, the legal birth certificate thing, no idea about the rape gangs and grooming gangs from these Muslim immigrants, no idea about anything.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  How?

• 27:13Speaker 00

  It's shocking.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  How does that happen? Like, how does, how do we have functionally two different Americas, right? Like, the fact that someone like Patton Oswalt is an American citizen and is quite obvious that we are in completely different wavelengths, both politically, but also in terms of like just the information we consume, that we look at the world in two completely different ways. I'm just, I'm, I'm at a loss for words at how that happens.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  Well, I, I think something happened with, with me this week, kind of crystallized why I think that's happening, and it's, it's only going to get worse. Uh oh. So it's, it's, it's the algorithms. You know, in the old days, it used to be you had to turn on a TV to get your opinions assigned to you. You'd go to Fox News or CNN or MSNBC or go to your local news source and then click on the TV. Now you get your opinion assigned by your phone. So even if you are in an airport or a public place and there's other, you know, news out there, their television on or whatever, people are just looking at their phones. But just as an example for something this week that is not related to politics at all, but former Penn State football coach James Franklin being hired by Virginia Tech.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  So, you know, as a, you know, a Penn State fan and someone who's interested in the story a little bit, you click on a couple of articles, you watch a video. Now my entire Twitter feed, the entire feed is all Virginia Tech football. It's like, how do I get out? How do I get out of this? I'm stuck. I can't get back out.

• 28:43Speaker 03

  So you remember when Sydney Sweeney broke the internet a few weeks ago with her dress? Of course, any man saw that and was curious, right? I don't know about you guys, but my feed for at least two to three days afterwards was nothing but boobs.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  It broke my algorithm, it broke my penis. Just destroyed.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  You were quagmire in that one episode of Family Guy where he discovers the internet and he discovers online porn and he comes out with one arm jacked and the other one's normal.

• 29:15Speaker 01

  Well, it is, uh, it is interesting. You brought up, uh, Michael Malice, uh, there's a recent episode of You're Welcome with Walter Kern, uh, the novelist and, um, I believe he does some journalism too, like some opinion journalism. And they were talking about the algorithm and, you know, you start, uh, one of the things that Walter Kern brought up is, you know, you think that the algorithm gets to know you as opposed to the algorithm telling you what it is that it wants you to see. Um, and that's a really interesting way of looking at it like that. And when it comes to this idea of like of bubbles, uh, I don't know if it's because like we're, you know,

• 29:57Speaker 01

  we're, you know, right of center, I guess, uh, but so much of my bubble

• 30:04Speaker 01

  has to do with interacting with what's happening with the left, right? So it's sort of my bubble naturally kind of engulfs a lot of stuff in the left, whether it's to anger me or, you know, to give me material, whatever. But I'm interacting with that. So when I saw those clips of Patton Oswalt and Bill Maher talking, I was very shocked and I almost don't believe that Patton Oswalt could be in the, in the position that he's in because this is a guy who, you know, back in the, you know, early nineties was really hip to all of this like outside stuff happening in the arts and literature and magazines and stuff.

• 30:42Speaker 01

  He was a big fan of Jim Goad, uh, who had the, uh, these, uh, uh, I don't know if it's like a magazine called Answer Me where one app, where one issue of Answer Me, I think was like the rape issue where everything was about rape and stuff, just really out there, out there stuff, whether it's in music or literature and all that. So the idea that this really smart guy who is knows so much about like geek culture and outsider artists doesn't know about this shit happening, I don't believe it. I don't believe it for one second, or he or he has gone to a great lengths to insulate

• 31:22Speaker 01

  himself from anything, you know, that that could be, you know, possibly negative on, you know, his side of the political of the political.

• 31:31Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, Mark called it the blue sky bubble and that might be it, you know, Pat was like, well, I'm also on X. It's like, well, I doubt you're on X often. You're probably just scrolling blue sky and blue sky is not going to tell you any of this shit. It's just not going to be on there.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  And he's also the guy, and I want to remind people, a couple, a couple of years back, he's the guy who posted to social media, a picture of him backstage in front of a mirror, writing on a piece of paper, I guess his response to his good friend of many decades, Dave Chappelle, right?

• 32:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  So this is the same guy who came out and basically inferred or always, you know, put it out there that Dave Chappelle didn't want trans people to be safe. And I remember, you know, taking, you know, taking to him to task at the time over it because I'm like, man, what a really shitty thing to do to a friend, you know, not to say like, hey, this is my friend of, of, you know, 20 years. I happen to disagree with him on this subject, but to make the claim that somehow this guy doesn't want them to feel safe in the country. I thought that was such a shitty scumbag thing to do. So I don't know. I guess we're, you know, dealing with the same guy, you know?

• 32:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  But Lou, I would go back to that and say, I think that partly explains, maybe like, if you're in a bubble, right? And that's all you consume is that narrative over and over and over again, that becomes your reality. And I've told the story on my show before, like, my brother-in-law, I love him to death, but like, that is literally who he is. He is that one person who he is perpetually online. He is playing video games and his entire worldview, his entire political worldview has been built around the interactions he has online. And that's it. And it is, it is so eye-opening when I engage in conversations with him. I'll see him, you know, once, twice a year for the holidays and I'll just, you know, pick his brain for a little bit. And it's again, like, we're having.

• 33:31Speaker 03

  Two different languages we're communicating with. It's very weird because I know that I'm in the news and I know I read this stuff constantly. I know I'm more well versed in what's happening than your average person. We all are, right? But like, just to see somebody like in not just a different perspective, just like a completely different universe. It's just, it's very strange to experience that firsthand. And when I saw that interview, that's kind of what I felt like. It's like you end up, you see Bill Maher being like, really? You, how have you missed this? But it happens. It hap- I've seen it myself.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  It just, the algorithm, like if you are only looking at these one things, or if your online group of friends only talks about these one things, like that becomes your world. That becomes your norm.

• 34:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, speaking of different worlds and different norms. So Jasmine Crockett, we should have done this at the beginning, but I forgot I had this clip. Talking about Epstein. So Epstein was texting with Stacy Plaskett questions during a hearing. And you know, you talk about the ways in which people twist reality. Well, I guarantee you the narrative on Blue Sky is that this, this poor lady was just trying to do her best and that a black woman needs to be respected above all, even if she's texting with a pedophile. So let's hear what Jasmine has to say.

• 35:01Speaker 04

  Because I'm sorry, but like we don't have ethical like rules that say that you can't receive text messages or you can't respond to text messages, especially if somebody has a certain record and you can't do it in committee. We all be sitting on our phones and yes, people be texting. I mean, our staff texts us, like everybody texts us, like people. I remember when I had the bleach blonde situation, you know, who was texting me my pastor? Okay. But like, let me be clear, there is no ethical violation. And so the idea or the audacity to decide that you want to choose a black woman of her committee assignment because she was texting with Epstein.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  Because I'm sorry, but like we don't have ethical like rules that say that you can't receive text messages or you can't respond to text messages, especially if somebody has a certain record.

• 35:53Speaker 00

  Uh, anyway, you get the idea. It's, it's one of those things like, okay, I just love that. You can't just address it. She could have left it at, hey, there's no rules around here. You can text. Right? Meanwhile, any rational human being is like, the man is, is a highly connected pedophile. Who's running a, an influence ring. You probably shouldn't do that, especially asking questions. You shouldn't be getting advice from this man unless it's on how to hogtie a child and keep him in a trunk. You know, like that's the only, that's the only advice I would take from Epstein. But also don't forget, it's a black woman that was removed from this.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  Yes. Yeah.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Well, here, well, here's something. I bet after seeing that clip, her pastor texted her and was like, why would you bring me up when you're discussing Jeffrey Epstein? Like, why make that connection? This idea of, well, she's getting texts from Jeffrey Epstein. I'm getting texts from my pastor. Like, for one, I could, you know, I mean, for one, there's, I think that's pretty funny, but, but also like, I could see that your pastor has your phone number where he would text you. Jeffrey Epstein has this other lawmaker's phone number. I mean, I think that opens up a whole, you know, can of worms.

• 37:09Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Is, is the relationship between her and her pastor the same between, like the relationship between this other Congress lady and Jeffrey Epstein?

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Her spiritual leader is Jeffrey Epstein.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  The grog. I just, I just love the way that Jasmine Crockett says pasta. I wish, I wish I could say it like that.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  She, she turns her code switching up to 11. She cranks it all the way.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  Seriously, who is her, her target market?

• 37:34Speaker 02

  I would tell you who takes you seriously. I got the perfect answer to that question, Brian, right here. This is, uh, left, I don't know who this woman is, Stephanie Miller. I guess she's a left wing radio podcast host. This is her kissing Jasmine Crockett's feet.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  Worshipping.

• 37:53Speaker 00

  I thought we were past this kind of crap.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Another post I saw.

• 37:56Speaker 00

  It ended with George Floyd.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  It's liberal white women.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, she worships the ground she walks on. Just.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  Unbelievable.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Can you imagine the text messages this bitch sends to her? She, she keeps texting. He's like, can you send me some foot pics? Please Jasmine, please.

• 38:12Speaker 03

  Got nothing on OnlyFans.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  I'm gonna send my pics to my pastor.

• 38:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, it is ridiculous. I don't understand her appeal. I mean, it's kind of, well, it's the same appeal as Kamala. It's the exact same quote unquote appeal, right? Remember how Kamala was when she was a, what was she a senator, right?

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  Congress. Yeah, Senator. So, so Kamala Harris would always be the sassy bitch on the hill, right? Always interrupting people, always being, you know, you said code switching, always hope we don't pay that. And look how that worked out for her. She got vice president, but that's only because Biden needed a DEI hire specifically and said so. And then when she goes and runs for president, she gets her fucking doors blown off because nobody likes her. Jasmine Crockett's the same thing. And the Democrats somehow think that she's the future of the party and keep propping her up. No one likes this bitch. Nobody likes her. She's an, I mean, I don't know if she's an idiot because clearly she's gotten where she is. She's clearly doing this for a reason because you guys probably saw her background. She went to like prep schools and like,

• 39:14Speaker 00

  you know, very highly ranked academies. This chick's pretending she's putting on, you know, blacker face, if you will. She's putting on a minstrel show. Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  She said blacker face?

• 39:24Speaker 00

  Blacker face. Yeah. One, one step darker.

• 39:30Speaker 00

  So I can't call her an idiot, but I don't, I, I, I think they're overestimating her appeal by about 7,000%.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Well, it's, it's one of those things that if she does run for president, where she will during the, uh, the primaries, you'll see this version of her, you know, the very in your face, blacker face.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  For the left.

• 39:51Speaker 02

  To the left, um, talking sassy. And then if she, if she does win, get the nomination, then you'll see the, uh, the prep school version. You'll see the Obama version.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Yep, exactly.

• 40:06Speaker 00

  All right. Well, I guess we're done with that topic. Last topic of the day is this story is just enraging in every possible way. And speaks to a couple of different, couple of different things. So in Minnesota, which is especially like Minneapolis, it is overrun with Somalis. Right. This is where, um, uh, what's the name of the chick that married her brother? That is a Dearborn? Congresswoman. No, no, no. The name of the chick, she's like part of the squad. Oh, Ilhan Omar. Yeah, yeah. Ilhan Omar. So this is Ilhan Omar's, you know, domain here.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  But it's just so crazy how many Somalis are in Minnesota and in Minneapolis specifically, where it's like they can vote in their people, they control their large swaths of the city. They've been, you know, found ballot stuffing, all these things. And now the latest thing, and as I, as I wrote down in the, I wrote down in our sheet, uh, autism for fun and profit. Can you guys read this? It's a little bit hard to read. No, I can't read it all. No. All right. Let me, let me read it for you. So this is from Mike Johnson, Speaker Mike Johnson. So here's the facts of this, this story. Millions in stolen Minnesota welfare dollars have been funneled to Al Shabab, an ISIS aligned terror group, and this is factual. Uh, this happened because Democrats built a system so loose, so corrupt and so politically timid,

• 41:31Speaker 00

  the fraudsters exploited to bankrupt terrorists abroad. What the, what actually happened here was that they, the Minnesotan, uh, Somalis had taken advantage of this spending that was supposed to go towards autism, kids with autism. They over-reported and falsely reported that all these children had autism. And instead of giving money and care to autism children, they just funneled it towards these terrorist groups and while enriching themselves. And this is by the way, the second thing that's come out about the Somali population in Minnesota. Cause there was another thing too, that they did, which was they created, and again, another Somali,

• 42:10Speaker 00

  created a fake charity that was supposed to be giving out, I think it was kind of like a Meals on Wheels. And took in like $40 million, didn't deliver any meals. Just, just kept the money, did nothing.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  They're all skinny. Look at them. Look how skinny they are.

• 42:27Speaker 00

  That's, yeah, exactly.

• 42:30Speaker 00

  Boy, bring back the good old days of flies on eyeballs and it's distended bellies. Yeah, it's just, it's bonkers, man. It's, it reminds me a little bit of, you know, what we're seeing in Dearborn with, you know, these mass migration policies, you know, people taking over cities, taking over towns and then installing completely corrupt governments, you know, just overrunning the domestic population, which look, if it happens naturally, that's one thing, but when you have mass migration policies, this is the shit that, that ends up happening. You know, it's like, and, and so much of this money is also just sent home, you know, or abroad to terrorist cells. It's not like, it's not like the good old days where a criminal spent that money here in America.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Well, and I've killed the show again. That's my, that's my talent.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, at least if you're, I don't even know if I should say that and joke about it. I'm not going to joke about that. I'll skip that one. Um, but it's, I, when you talk about stories, like we're talking about Patton Oswalt earlier and not, not hearing about things like this, a story like this doesn't make it out of the right wing media.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Doesn't make it on CNN, doesn't make it on MSNBC. So you wonder like, how does this happen? How do they keep getting more power? You know, how do they eventually take over the Minnesota governorship and, and from there on, which I'm sure they will, the population's growing like crazy. That's, that's why. I mean, and that's just the nature of the media that we, uh, we live in today. Um, and I really don't necessarily think there's a way to, to stop it. Like, do I think the government should, should step in and start telling these media companies how to run their algorithms or, you know, no. Um, I don't know. I don't know how you fix it.

• 44:14Speaker 00

  EMP, giant EMP attack. Everybody goes back to zero Fight Club style.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Bold.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  Take this podcast down. It'll just be us old fashioned.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  No, if you, if you do that, the, the only people who are going to be able to survive it are going to be the Somalis in Minnesota. So you are, you are like, I bet, I'm surprised that there has, the money hasn't gone towards that because they're going to, they're going to win out for sure. They can survive, man. Um, digging for roots. All right.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  Well, any final thoughts to wrap up this episode, gentlemen?

• 44:50Speaker 01

  Is there, I mean, really, is there, is there a cause we could be championing where we could be making some Somali money, some, some al-Shabab ass money right there?

• 45:01Speaker 00

  I mean, there's gotta be a way. There's gotta be some sort of, some sort of foundation that we can create. Maybe something like,

• 45:11Speaker 00

  Shave a Shabazz, where we're like, we'll go in and we'll offer to, to trim all the terrorist beards. And we take in money. Shave a Shabazz.org. And I could see the money rolling in pretty easily.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  Who's our target market?

• 45:27Speaker 00

  The, uh, the same people that are funneling the money towards the terrorist cells, the Somalis. They seem to have the money. They seem to know how to get the money.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  So it's ethical.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  We're just bringing it back. Yeah, okay.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. We're repatriating these terrorist dollars here at home.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  You're welcome, America.

• 45:48Speaker 00

  The thing is, all these terrorists with giant beards is you know that they have no chins underneath, and that's why they're so angry, angry at the world. Shave those beards down, weak gins.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  I feel bad for all the Amish that get caught up in these, uh, in these things, right?

• 46:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Getting profiled, you like, on your horse and buggy.

• 46:07Speaker 00

  The Amish, I love, I still love how they're, the Amish have, you know, an autism rate of like zero. You know, it makes you think. It really makes you think. Then again, who knows? Maybe they don't report it. Maybe Jem Aday takes him out and just beats him with a stick and.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  I don't think you could beat the autism out of somebody.

• 46:25Speaker 00

  I really, well.

• 46:28Speaker 02

  Treatment method.

• 46:30Speaker 00

  Churning butter is actually the cure to autism. RFK's out there like,

• 46:35Speaker 00

  you just need to churn for butter.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  There was an Amish, Amish kid on Theo Von a couple of months ago, and they were talking about autism in Amish community. And he was saying, oh, it's, it's very low, but you know, there was, there was one, um, you know, Timmy. And he was, he was different. You know, he would organize all, all the seeds alphabetically and, uh, but we just, we just treated him differently. He was very smart. So I, I don't know. There's one, one, one. Timmy got the tis.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  What is it like? So with the, um, with the Amish, they go on that what Rumspringer thing where they're able to like leave for like six months or something like that? Yeah. So I guess if you were an autistic Amish, your Rumspringer would be just going to the nearest train. And just like you want to experience.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  A locomotive going by.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Like that's it. Like that's what you're into. And it's, and then you have to make that really difficult choice. Do I leave the train gazing life behind and go back to alphabetizing seeds?

• 47:40Speaker 00

  Well, they should have more autistic, uh, train lovers driving the trains. They have to be great at it. Better than at least the chick goes in, it was here in LA. Some chick, uh, you know, some, some, some fat chick fell asleep at the wheel of the train. And just like careened around corners. Cause she, she was going like 60 miles an hour and everybody's flying around the train cars. But she woke up and finally slowed the car down.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Well, I don't think, yeah, I don't think it was her fault. I think her fake eyelashes were so heavy.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  They kind of, they put her into a state of, you know, kind of, it's like narcolepsy, like right there.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Catatonic almost. It's like, it's like suing the gun manufacturer, but you sued the eyelash manufacturer for pulling the trigger.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  Just think of the power of those lashes. Rocket ever gets kidnapped and buried alive, she'll be able to dig her way out. Just flopping her eyelids with those powerful muscles that built up with those giant eyelashes for the last 15 years.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  Eddie Murphy had a joke about, uh, about he's like brothers being buried in the seventies, like with their big ass hats. It's like their hats sticking out from the coffin. It's going to be a similar thing with the, um, with those big ass eyelashes.

• 48:47Speaker 00

  You could go and just pet the lashes over top of the grave and that's like.

• 48:53Speaker 00

  All right. Well, I don't know.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Great job.

• 48:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't know where we go from there.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  I'd say, I'd say good show all around.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  We did enough.

• 49:01Speaker 00

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