Side Stories: Maternal Instict

Henry & Eddie bring you this week's biggest stories and true crime news - The boys weigh in on Tom Holland, Zendaya, and the Polymarket, the new Netflix documentary Maternal Instinct and the story of Taylor Parker - who faked a pregnancy and murdered friend to steal her unborn child, Peter Theils secret society exposed, AI draws first blood, Indian man stands in the same place for 12 years as a vow to god Shiva, Listener E-Mails, and MORE!

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  On October 30th, Dexter Morgan is back. In this season, he's facing the scariest threat yet. Middle age. A lifetime of blending in gets to you. And now Dexter is up against two rival killers stealing the spotlight. Taking them down means changing his MO and things are gonna get messy. Starring Michael C. Hall, Uma Thurman, Dan Stevens, and Brian Cox. Dexter: Resurrection. New season, October 30th on the Paramount Plus Premium Plan.

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  In New Orleans, truckers keep getting sideswiped the exact same way. When a man is found murdered under questionable circumstances related to these accidents, the rubber hits the road. And what the feds uncover is a complex scheme of staged wrecks, financial fraud, and a pair of conspiring lovers behind it. This is a story about fake accidents that lead to real consequences. Listen to "Over My Dead Body," Operation Sideswipe, wherever you get your podcasts. Audible subscribers can binge all episodes early and ad-free right now. Join Audible in the Audible app or by subscribing on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

• 1:15Speaker 02

  There's no place to escape to. This is the last. On the left.

• 1:20Speaker 03

  Side stories?

• 1:23Speaker 02

  That's when the cannibalism started.

• 1:26Speaker 03

  Side stories. Yes.

• 1:35Speaker 03

  My fault that I'm out here feeling loose. Got a sickin' on my juice and I'm sitting on this goose. It ain't my fault.

• 1:45Speaker 01

  Is that how you make foie gras?

• 1:47Speaker 03

  I mean, in the old days.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, you just get on a goose and you sit on them until it's delicious.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  No, you're not supposed to now. Now it's like the problem is that you're supposed to feed a goose so many delicious, like fatty things. And now it's like they took that away from the goose.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that was basically, it was my 500-pound life as a goose.

• 2:07Speaker 03

  He was torturing the goose.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  It's like if they ate the person at the end of my 500-pound life.

• 2:13Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Or just ate their liver.

• 2:15Speaker 03

  Dude.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Just ate their, you know, it's a tasty liver.

• 2:18Speaker 03

  That is a really fun idea.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  My 500-pound liver?

• 2:22Speaker 03

  I would love to see. The fat content of a 600 pound person in the like, I actually wonder Eddie, I've never, I've never thought about the side stories, L P O T L at gmail dot com. Can the liver of a 600 pound person be turned into foie gras?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Probably. I wouldn't try and eat any other part of them but the liver.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  The liver is also considered to be the most nutritious part of any animal you could eat.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Well, that's why orcas are so, and is my one gripe with orcas, is that when they kill a great white shark, they only eat the liver and then dispose of the rest of the body.

• 2:55Speaker 03

  With the livers.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  It's very wasteful. If they were, if the orcas were indigenous people, they'd be wasteful.

• 3:01Speaker 03

  You know what?

• 3:02Speaker 01

  But because they're orcas, we forgive it.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz and that's to me, one of the glaring double standards we deal with as a country. And I feel, and that's why I'm actually really proudly to be a part of a new society, or my new group where we're, our goal is to just kind of randomly kill whales.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:19Speaker 03

  And just color the whale colors.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  How Japanese.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Super Japanese. That's why I always bring my giant camera with me everywhere. And I gotta take a million pictures of it and show no one and put it on Facebook. I also, I film everything with my iPad.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Oh, you're so into it, buddy.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  I'm so Japanese.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  You're new.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  I film everything with my iPad. It's pretty great. Welcome to Side Stories.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:41Speaker 03

  My name is Henry Zebrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  That's right. That's me. Now, we talked about switching sides, but then we didn't do it.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  I, we did it for the other show.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Oh, it's for the movie stories.

• 3:53Speaker 03

  Well, I wanted to try.

• 3:54Speaker 01

  It's available on Sirius and Patreon.

• 3:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's available on Patreon. So if you already joined the Patreon, just go watch it over there. It's already on there. It's great.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:02Speaker 03

  And so we, yes, I, we switched it for that because I was watching a video with Tom Hanks that was really describing his, the concept of how people legitimately have good sides and bad sides.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  I am facing my bad side towards the camera.

• 4:17Speaker 03

  Same.

• 4:18Speaker 01

  I know I am.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Same. This is my bad side.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  I got this weird skin tag over here and I got, and I got a gap in my teeth over here.

• 4:23Speaker 03

  This is my bad side. But the reason why we know this.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  I gotta get my tooth implant.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  And then no one will be, none the wiser.

• 4:29Speaker 03

  Triple G.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  Triple G.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  That's unique.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  What do you, what's that mean?

• 4:32Speaker 03

  Gold.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Big, old, big, natural titty.

• 4:34Speaker 03

  Oh, a natural titty?

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:36Speaker 03

  In my, in my mouth.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  That's what you mean?

• 4:38Speaker 03

  I need teeth.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Oh, whatever, dude.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  Then you're calling the wrong fucking guy, man.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  Just always saying. Teddy?

• 4:45Speaker 03

  That's cute.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Who'd be busy. You know who is never gonna have a problem sucking on a titty?

• 4:51Speaker 03

  Who?

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Wonderful Tom Holland.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  You're, you're, you think Tom Holland's getting dumped?

• 4:56Speaker 03

  I'm mad that we're even starting with this.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  You, you, you brought this up earlier.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Okay, so this is-

• 5:01Speaker 01

  I think he's fine.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  I brought this up earlier, right? So Zendaya and Tom Holland got secretly married, right? But now do we know the thing-

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Oh, they did?

• 5:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, sort of.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  I didn't know that's why you were talking about it.

• 5:10Speaker 03

  She has been-

• 5:11Speaker 01

  How do you sort of get secretly married?

• 5:12Speaker 03

  They tell like a, if the, have they, haven't they, kind of like fake thing-

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Do you think he's doing it for a green card?

• 5:17Speaker 03

  I think he's doing it to keep Zendaya, right? I think he's trying to hold on to Zendaya. And I think Zendaya is just so, like, I think it's fine right now. I think for a while, she's been with Spider-Man, and she's liked being with Spider-Man. But the reason why I wanted to talk about this is because I think it's finally, finally time for Eddie and I to broach the topic of Polly Market. So you see, Eddie's not into gambling. It ruined his family. Or ruin his family, ruin his life, right?

• 5:40Speaker 01

  A lot of things ruined my family, but I'd say gambling was top two.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  That was top two, right? For me, I don't even-

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Top number one?

• 5:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Just dad's existence.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  See, I'm not a gambler either. I don't like it. But then, then, you know, and this is not a paid advertisement for Polly Market, because we'd be on a different channel.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  I hate the Polly Market.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  We'd be waking up, we'd be making more money. But this, so, but I thought it was like, this is a good thing to maybe even use it for in case you want money on. This is my insider tip to those who- Whoa!

• 6:06Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 6:06Speaker 03

  My chair collapsed.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Oh, it did? Wow. Hold on, is this how short you're supposed to be?

• 6:11Speaker 03

  No!

• 6:12Speaker 01

  No wonder you wanted to change sides.

• 6:14Speaker 03

  No! Why my chair collapsed?

• 6:17Speaker 01

  I don't know, man.

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Why my chair collapsed?

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Sounds like too many dinners.

• 6:20Speaker 03

  We're here now.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  I know, I, right here, I don't know what to do. Switch chairs?

• 6:23Speaker 03

  No.

• 6:23Speaker 01

  We have an editor. You look so little.

• 6:25Speaker 03

  I'm so small, I'm stuck on this chair. The chair fell down.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  What do you think? Do you need to adjust the camera?

• 6:30Speaker 03

  No, it's important for me to do this from this place, okay? Because I'm punching-

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Are you happy? I, I went down too.

• 6:35Speaker 03

  No, I'm not Trump. I'm not slapping, I'm not gonna slap you, as I said. So I-

• 6:41Speaker 03

  So I figured this is an insider tip for people out here because no one likes insider trading.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Is this how you always look at the world?

• 6:48Speaker 03

  But yeah, yeah. Yeah, it makes you angry, right? Yeah, you're ready to fuck and to attack. But my insider tip is that if you want to go and put a bet on a poly market, all right, you want to make money. I would say you're gonna go and you're gonna bet Zendaya's gonna leave Tom Holland within the next year. I mean this, you're gonna set this up, you're gonna put $10,000 on it. You're going to make so much money because you know why I know that and you know how I know that? Tom Holland's hairline. I look at it, he's becoming British. The second, the second he becomes British, she's gone.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  We got, on the poly market.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  The second he turns into the British man, he's gonna be, we all saw what happened to cute Prince Andrew.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  I mean, Jude Law still pulls him in.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  Oh, he's got heavy cosmetic surgery done.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  He looks horrible.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  He has, he's had.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Jude Law looks pretty bad.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Jude Law has had his whole scalp reconstructed like three times.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  So dude, this is happening, this is what I'm just saying, this is my call out to you.

• 7:49Speaker 01

  Oh, is this gonna happen to Marcus?

• 7:51Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 7:53Speaker 03

  He's gonna get British.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  He's gonna get British.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  No, well, he's not full, he's still American, so he's still naturally handsome. So the thing is.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Once your family's been here for multiple generations, you stay handsome.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  You stay handsome.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  But if you stay over there.

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  It's the not, it's no fluoride, right?

• 8:09Speaker 03

  You're cute, you're cute, you're cute. No, you know, they, no, they don't have fluoride anymore, they're gonna get rid of it. The thing about British guys is that they're cute, they're cute, they're cute, they're cute, then they turn British.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  And then, and then all of a sudden it's, oh, hello, missy, oh, just, I simply can't find my, my wrinkle cream for my, my shins. He is going to literally receive sock gardeners in the mail. Like, a British man can't even keep his socks up.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Really?

• 8:37Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying here, Tom Holland is gonna get to that point, his legs are gonna become really skinny.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  They're very thin now.

• 8:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh, he's gonna get skinnier and stranger and that's my, that's my bet.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  See, I think Tom Holland's gonna stay a cute little boy.

• 8:49Speaker 03

  I don't think he is.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  Forever, I think he's all. Already he's Tom Holland's what like thirty three, thirty four and he's adorable.

• 8:55Speaker 03

  He's gonna.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  You could put him in your pocket.

• 8:56Speaker 03

  He's gonna go British any day of the week.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  I don't think so. I think.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Any day now he's going.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Well, this is why they got married. It's gonna be very hard for.

• 9:03Speaker 03

  He's only thirty.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  He's only thirty. Okay.

• 9:05Speaker 03

  No, he's gonna be British very, very soon and then she's gonna.

• 9:08Speaker 01

  Full decade before he turns British.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  Guess what she gets now? Half.

• 9:13Speaker 01

  Half?

• 9:13Speaker 03

  Spider-Man. She gets half Spider-Man.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  Well, he gets half a dude.

• 9:17Speaker 03

  No, she don't. He gets jack shit. He gets nothing.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  What are you talking about?

• 9:22Speaker 03

  She's gonna strip him of his life. She's gonna take half of the stuff and then he's gonna end up dating like Casey Anthony.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  See, I think I think Zendaya is too classy to do any of this stuff. I think she's I think she's I think she's on the level.

• 9:34Speaker 03

  I think that's really.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Zendaya seems.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  So you're betting on you're betting that they'll stay together.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  But here's the deal. If you bet on the poly market, if they stay together, then when do you win?

• 9:45Speaker 03

  When one of them dies.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  That makes I'm not gonna live that long. These people are gonna outlive me by thirty, forty years.

• 9:51Speaker 03

  Something that could happen to him.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  To Zendaya? There's a bubble around her.

• 9:55Speaker 03

  That credible.

• 9:56Speaker 01

  Snipers following the two of these everywhere they go.

• 9:59Speaker 03

  I'd like I am still saddened by the loss of Oliver Tree. All it's gonna take is one fucking helicopter ride. And she's out.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  I don't know. They seem too responsible.

• 10:10Speaker 03

  I know that they would probably I imagine that they would throw out other people to save Zendaya. I imagine that Zendaya will be saved at all costs.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  The only way I could see this happening is if Tom Holland like foregoes his own life to save hers.

• 10:23Speaker 03

  Like Spider-Man.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  I could see him dying like Spider-Man for her life.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  Well, that's the only way. I mean, that's the only way she's marrying.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  The only he's like one of the only good Brits.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  She's only marrying him so that he will die earlier than her.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  You think that?

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  I mean, he's definitely gonna die earlier than her.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  Well, that's all men.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  She's gonna live forever.

• 10:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, Zendaya is, you know, she's like.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  She's incredible. She's gonna live. Yeah, no, she's.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  She's a redwood.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  No, she's Chihuahua in my mind.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 03

  She's gonna go a hundred twenty-five years old.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  But she's tall though, right?

• 10:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, sure.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  I don't know. She just looks tall. He's probably short.

• 10:54Speaker 03

  He's super tiny.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  He's tiny. That's why she looks tall.

• 10:57Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  They're both tiny.

• 10:59Speaker 03

  They're super small.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  I think they're gonna be happy forever.

• 11:01Speaker 03

  I hope so. You know what? I just wanna make money.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  I've, I've looked at-

• 11:04Speaker 03

  And I want our people to make money.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  So I put in like a-

• 11:07Speaker 03

  I want, this is about the audience, Eddie. This is not about me. It's about the audience and giving them a good tip to go out and do. All guys talk about sports-

• 11:13Speaker 01

  I hope the audience has an extra ten grand to lay down on whether Zendaya and Tom Holland break up.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Sell your stuff. Sell your things.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  I see, but there's other-

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Cash in your 401K. Put it on this.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  You know, it's interesting. I'm looking, I, so I searched, this doesn't exist in the poly market right now.

• 11:30Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  You would have to invent this in order for it to exist. I searched, there are a hundred and three results for Tom Holland's Zendaya divorce. Um, and, uh, the, the top one that comes out that, uh, inch, uh, makes me interested is Margot Robbie divorced by June 30th at 1%.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Wow, interesting.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's all-

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, I could see that.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, it's-

• 11:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I could see that.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  There's all kinds of these in here, but the, the more interesting thing on the poly market that I saw is, um, it, it just like, you could bet on who's gonna be the president in 2028?

• 12:03Speaker 03

  You can bet, no, we have, um, uh-

• 12:05Speaker 01

  This is insane to me.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  We're off the rails right now, Eddie.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  We're off the rails into a bunch of new things right now, Eddie. And that's why I was trying to give him a more innocent bet.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  You know, I, Ghana is only a 5% on the poly market against England in the World Cup today.

• 12:20Speaker 03

  Well, do you think that it would change if you could wear your Ghana jersey that you purchased?

• 12:24Speaker 01

  I bought a Ghana jersey and I don't know if I'm allowed to wear it or not. It's one of those drunken, I thought I was being cool and bought a, uh, so I don't care about soccer, football, uh, World Cup.

• 12:35Speaker 03

  But you love Africa.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  I hate FIFA and I love Africa and I love, uh, I love the music more than anything else.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  We do.

• 12:42Speaker 01

  And jazz-

• 12:42Speaker 03

  That is true. Of all of the people that you would say, I mean, uh, obviously Eddie, again, he did the MC the Parliament Funkadelic. You know, that's the closest he ever got to being a black person, but also Eddie lives the most African, like you li- listen to an extreme amount of African music.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's one, it's my favorite music right now. I can't get enough of it. I'm, I'm obsessed with Ebo Taylor.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  You know what I've been obsessed with?

• 13:04Speaker 01

  What?

• 13:04Speaker 03

  Vietnamese funk.

• 13:05Speaker 01

  It's really good.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  I got a Cambodian record I'll have to share with you.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  You're gonna love it. You're gonna go crazy.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  It's the ones where they go, "Ah, ah, ah, ah, stop."

• 13:13Speaker 01

  It's a little funkier than that. Um, but see, so I'm a real-

• 13:19Speaker 01

  So I've been obsessed with Ebo Taylor, who died last year. R I P Ebo. He was 90 something. I got to see him, but Jazz is dead, which is my favorite jazz company out here on Blue Note. They, they put out this Ghana soccer jersey, but it has Ebo's name on the back.

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Oh, cool.

• 13:35Speaker 01

  I think it's very cool. So I bought it and then I put it on. I'm like, I'm gonna get beat up.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  You know, you could be South African.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  But Ghana's not South Africa and they don't like them there. They don't like the, they don't, they don't like the Afrikaans in Africa.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Well, let's send this to side story, side story.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  So can I wear, I spent too much money on this jersey. Am I allowed to wear it? Can I, or do I have to donate it? Do I have to find someone from Ghana and give them the coolest gift ever?

• 14:01Speaker 03

  See, I honestly, I think that he can celebrate it, but I think this is very similar to our lines about whether or not I'm allowed to dress up Wendy and Carmy as a incredible icons of black history for black history month for a photo shoot. I got, I feel like it's in the same way where a lot of people felt that actually was quite a beautiful celebration.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  I think it's nice. I think you should do that next year and I'll, I'll help you. But all right. So Google A I says, anyone regardless of race or background can wear a Ghana soccer jersey in public.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  That's because the A I kinda races.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  Accepted as casual streetwear or a symbol of appreciation for a sport and the country.

• 14:42Speaker 03

  I, I, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I also wore the dashiki for two years.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  Yes, but that, you look great.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  I wish you could still wear it, but we know you shouldn't.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  I feel that it's starting to come back.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  The soccer jersey is the dashiki gateway.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  It's starting to be.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  Cause my problem right now is that I'm about a 48 inch chest. I am getting to the point where I'm gonna have to start wearing dashikis again.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  Big tits.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's good. I think you look good though. So fuck England. I'm going for Ghana. Wow. This all came full circle because Tom Holland.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. Wow. We're really good.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Circle. Yeah.

• 15:16Speaker 03

  We're really good at podcasting.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you, UK. I'm going Ghana. By the time this comes out, you guys would have crushed them, I'm sure.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Possibly, but we also, but again, it's a safe bet. So I would say go and make that bet.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  It's not a safe bet. It's only 5%.

• 15:28Speaker 03

  We'll make that bet. I mean, on Tom Holland and Zendaya.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  Oh, that.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  It's a good bet.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  That's a good bet.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  All right, here we go.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  I don't like the polymarket.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  I know. No, we don't really like the polymarket. We just thought it would be funny to, uh, use money and cynically to decide whether or not love is enough.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:43Speaker 03

  And use that on polymarket. That would be really fun.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  All right. You convinced me. I'm gonna wear the jersey.

• 15:51Speaker 03

  Now I can't wear it.

• 15:54Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, if it's for a joke, then I think you're allowed to, yeah.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  No, it's not a joke. I legitimately.

• 15:59Speaker 03

  No, he loved it. If you have a good joke.

• 16:01Speaker 01

  I care about Ghana.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  Go along with it. You're allowed. But also, yeah, but why does it feel weirder for you to wear a Japanese one, right?

• 16:08Speaker 01

  Well, ju- cuz I don't give a fuck about them.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  I'm just, I'm saying, Eddie, but I'm just saying, like, for me, it'd be weirder. I think it's cuz of my past.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Like, if I were to wear a Japanese one, people would be like, oh, we're, oh, I know what he's doing.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I don't have, like, a Ghana Larson character in my past.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  And that's why we're introducing it now. Uh, if we could, I'd love to hear a little bit from Ghana Larson.

• 16:37Speaker 01

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• 21:14Speaker 01

  All right, yeah.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  So I made you watch this documentary on Netflix.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Man, I was not, I did not want to watch it, and boy, oh, boy, was I fucking eating it up.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  It was.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  It is upsetting.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  Natalie doesn't like it when I'm watching one of these, and I'm like, ooh, this is good. She's just like, everyone's dead, though. Yeah, I know, but I like it. So we watch on Netflix, we watch this new documentary called Maternal Instinct, which is based off a story that came out in 2022.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Did you all, in 2020 it happened?

• 21:44Speaker 03

  That's when it happened, but then I believe it got all the coverage in like 2022.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Did you cover it on Side Stories? Do you remember?

• 21:51Speaker 03

  Like, I think at a time, we thought it was too dark, but now...

• 21:56Speaker 01

  For Side Stories?

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, but now I don't care anymore.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  So this is a, this is a story that is, I mean, it's wild, because it involves one of my truly, like, a topic that I'm fascinated with inside of true crime and weirdo thought, which is malingering and...

• 22:16Speaker 03

  Fake, like pathological lying.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  And malingering specifically is people that pretend to be sick in order to get some kind of clout. Like weird.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  I never understood it.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  It's very interesting because sometimes they'll do it for nothing at all. Like there's a story of an Australian woman that faked having cancer and it got so fucking huge. Like that, like the story, there's another story about this woman who faked that her husband died in nine 11. And then she worked her way into this nine 11 victims group. It's like victims advocacy group and then legitimately then worked her way through all these weird political machinations within it. And like ousted the former leader and did all this shit. Meanwhile, like everything was a lie.

• 23:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  And there's something about pathological liars I find fascinating.

• 23:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Terrifying.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  Hard.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  It is.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  It's, it's just, I don't, it's so, to me to lie that much is just so stressful.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  It's harder and then we've also known, I mean, you know, I don't think I'm talking too out of school here. I've known several pathological liars.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  They insist in everyone's life.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  But I also, I've known reformed pathological liars.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Which I'm all about.

• 23:24Speaker 03

  And I think they're really interesting too. It's just as interesting to me to hearing them talk about why they did what they did, you know? And largely it's to, to get along with the Joneses.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  Sometimes it's just because you want attention and largely it is, it's literally like a lot of them have to get on medication, talk therapy in order to really talk about why they do what they do, which largely comes from a sense of I'm not enough.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  I feel like you're allowed to lie until you're 18.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  I think that this is, there's, we all have those, right? Everybody had the.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  When I was young, I lied.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  Everybody did. Every, every child lies and like, you know, like childlike lies, like the thing where they do that, we know when you come in, the one kid's lying about going to Europe for the summer or.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Or that their dad invented Velcro.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  I met a cute girl on a cruise once.

• 24:08Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 24:08Speaker 01

  Didn't, that I, which was a girl that I saw that I thought was pretty.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  Hmm. And then you, you, but you're a kid, you get over it.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  But some people don't get over it. And I do think that it's, though sometimes what happens is that your pathological lying. will then not even be your issue.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  It's actually something else because you'll do extreme things to try to make your lie be real.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  And that to me is like even more interesting than just lying.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, because it just makes it so much harder.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  Yes, it's just trying to make it real, but so this story is about Taylor Parker.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  And the new documentary Maternal Instinct, um, it is a news story, so the new, it is out there.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  But if you want to see the doc, some spoilers ahead.

• 24:56Speaker 03

  There, yeah, there's spoilers, but the story has been out there, but and there's, there's more to it, so.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  It's a great doc.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  It is. Taylor Parker is twenty six, was twenty seven two years old, um, this is in twenty twenty when she was twenty seven. And then she seemed to have like, she kind of live in two lives. One in which she was a single mom that had two kids that she just sort of like didn't pay attention to.

• 25:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're just a kind of existed. No one ever saw them.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  And this, this lady.

• 25:17Speaker 01

  One came around and the other one wouldn't.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  And Taylor seems to be the type of person that would go through like a friend group pretty easily. And then she met this other new guy and, and you kind of thought like, oh, you know, like whatever. And then the story is, is like, oh, she gets pregnant with this guy and then, oh, she's going to be saved by him. But that's not the story.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  The most naive man in history.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  Uh, this, well, I would say, you say naive, I say checked the fuck out.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  I say.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Which is both, I guess.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  I think that guy was had, that guy was just like, I don't even know what's happening here. So this is in, this is out of New Boston, Texas, this is the middle of fucking nowhere. Taylor Parker, the crime she would go on to commit is that she would fake being pregnant up until ten months in her pregnancy. And then she would, in a moment of pure manic delusion, stab and mutilate her quote unquote best friend, who was pregnant with the baby, cut the baby out of her using ninety four different fucking varied cuts after watching C-section videos on YouTube.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  And then tried to fake the baby as her own and the baby and her best friend Reagan died in the process. She's now in jail and she has got the fucking death penalty.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  In Texas.

• 26:29Speaker 03

  The old, the sixth woman to ever receive the death penalty sentence and she is still. There we do. They are trying to figure out something about her mental state, blah, blah, blah. But this, the story is like, that's all I heard originally was just that this woman had fake being pregnant and she cut the baby out of somebody else. And then I saw the body cam footage of her that of what you can see in the documentary, but it was all over the internet where she sees she's all shaky and crying and covered in blood. And she's close to the

• 26:55Speaker 01

  She's really not covered in that much blood.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  She must have changed and washed herself.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  She did. She did. We know that she did.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:02Speaker 03

  And so she was, she had blood on her. She was saying, oh my God, I gave birth in my car. And this, the cop is like, oh my God, they get the baby in and the second they're all at the hospital. Everybody knows that there's something fucking wrong.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, but isn't she like wearing jeans?

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  She's just dressed The most basic level, you don't give, you don't put your jeans back on after you give birth on the side of the road.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  God knows what this, I mean, obviously she wasn't in the right mind, Eddie. And so they went and they talk about, they talk with her about this and she's just all like, oh, you mean, I didn't have a baby and that doctor, that doctor.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Doctor is my favorite character in the whole thing.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  When he comes in, he's like, ain't no way baby came out of there.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  When you first thing, you first, no, no baby. Let me go check, see baby coming in. Let me look.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  Well, because

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Ain't no baby in there.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  It's just like a mechanic. It is one of those things where it's like, you know, she let it go. All the, the lie go all the way to having her fucking pussy checked.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Like she let this lie go all, I mean, she had to have known that when the doctor like looks under that dress, they're gonna be like, okay.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  So let's take it all the way back.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  So it starts with Taylor Parker. It starts in high school. It starts with her. She's a little bit of a chubby girl.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  Self-conscious. Uh, her friends said that the thing that she would do though, very casually is that she would say, give me a naked picture of you from your chin down. I'm talking to a guy. They're like, what the fuck you talking about, Taylor? You know, just be like, oh my God, I want him to like me now. I want to show him on these pictures. They're like, so what it's gonna happen when he sees you? And she had no answer.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 28:43Speaker 03

  And so she started catfishing guys and then the guy'd show up and then it'd blow up. And that was like one thing. So that's kind of the next thing that started. Then it starts with, she's starting to have health issues, right?

• 28:53Speaker 01

  So she did get the nudes?

• 28:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, sometimes. Girls are weird.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  They're young, right? They have no fucking idea, right? So, she is, Taylor now, is she gets a new group of friends. And she is starting to do the chronic illness, like dive, right? She's starting to say, oh, I'm getting this.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm feeling faint. Everything kind of becomes about her health, right? Like comes again about all these kinds of things. And eventually she comes and tells her friend, I have MS. They actually diagnosed me with MS. And they're like, oh, my fucking god. And everybody gets together and she's like, oh, you know, a couple of months after that. It's like, actually, also, I just got diagnosed with cancer. And they're like, oh, my fucking god. And they go and they, they get, she gets the baby come out. And she made up all these things about how she had, because she ended up getting pregnant at seventeen. And getting pregnant with another baby. And after she had that baby and knew all this, this health stuff started happening. She basically said, oh, we're having issues with your, like, the baby came out. And at first she was like, oh, you know, I got my tubes tied. That's what she wanted.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  She came up with this like thing about how at twenty-one years old, she went to the doctors and said, tie my tubes, I'm not having any more babies. And they're all like, why? Why are you doing this? This is so young. And she's just like, I don't care, no more babies. And so they, they went and they tied her tubes up and then-

• 30:16Speaker 01

  Gave her a hysterectomy.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Well, it's because she ended up having an ecto, what is it called? An ectotropic, what's that, that term of a pregnant, pregnancy that gets caught?

• 30:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  In a tube after she'd gotten her tubes tied.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  She got her, she got pregnant with it and she, she needed to have a hysterectomy. So she got the hysterectomy. Everything's pulled out of her. Now she's just like this kind of like whatever normal person, but she's also been-

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Call it a hysterectomy, by the way.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Thank you. You're right.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  You're right.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  That's what I, you know, what are we even doing here?

• 30:43Speaker 03

  A woman's hysterectomy.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Thank you. You're right. You're right, I'm sorry.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Even though it was a man doing it.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  It was, they interviewed him.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Her, that's my, that's his director, it's my director. It's mine. I did that, I popped that pussy out. I popped the whole fucking thing out. I took out the transmission. I took out the whole fucking thing. I dropped in a new load.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  I brought it to the taxidermist, I put it on the wall.

• 31:06Speaker 03

  I knew what I need to do. That's what men knew.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  It's right next to my deer heads.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  There's my dear uterus.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  So this is also where she started talking about how like she was had a fallout with her mom and her mom was this a heir to a fortune that would go from syrup to oil to she said salt, she said that her parents were the Morton Salt family, all this kinda shit.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Your name should be Morton if you're gonna tell that lie.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  Yes. So she burns through a series of friends with all of these crazy fucking lies. So she moves away and

• 31:44Speaker 01

  Not too far, but far enough.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  Like three hours. So she moves away from her little town and she goes

• 31:51Speaker 01

  To her first rodeo.

• 31:53Speaker 03

  And so at the time what she did was that because she had, she had gained all, she had all this weight. And then what happened, she had lost all the weight, then she kinda went fuck crazy and then she kinda got weird and all that kinda shit, right?

• 32:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:04Speaker 03

  At this point, now she's doing the, "I want a man to settle down with."

• 32:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  And I want a country man. I want a big, strong country man.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  She's a New Boston eight.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, I mean for the territory for, you know, like, you know, I think so. I think she's ugly inside and out, but

• 32:25Speaker 03

  See, normally I can separate the two.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:27Speaker 03

  Because I'm wise like that. So normally like even those evil woman, I can figure out if she's hot or not.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  I'm not attracted to her, but I'm saying for the territory, for a, a man who collects hogs for a living. I think she's beautiful.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  That's his job. That's his job.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  And not only does he collects hogs as a job, apparently also does it in his personal life. So this guy's name of Wade Griffin, right? So she saw this guy, this, this amateur rodeo and he's a hog trapper. Big boy. And I would also say a little bit, not hmm, he's not dumb, but he's very country and doesn't ask a heck of a lot of questions, right?

• 33:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:11Speaker 03

  So she insinuates herself into Wade's life. She starts pretending to be somebody else. So he's like so surprised that she wants to slop the hogs and she wants to Jerk off the tractor and she wants to fucking slam the chickens. I don't know what they do. They do something.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  He's like, a woman kinda likes me, I'm in.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  But it also in his idea too, cuz he was just like, cuz some women, some men in the country world, they like, tell me if I'm right or wrong, side stories, L P O T L at gmail dot com, but I think I'm correct. I think sometimes a big country man almost wishes he could be with a man. Because she wishes that, cuz he was like, this is the first time I met a lady that couldn't care about the country. She liked the mud, she liked the dog, she liked lifting the trucks. And it's like, no, you like, you want a man, dude. You wanna be married to a fucking man.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  It's a country girl, a girl raised on a farm, somebody who could change a tire.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  But he's specifically saying you can't find that in the way that you find it because she's lying to him, Eddie. She's doing the thing where she's pretending to be super country to get this man.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  I feel like if you could find her anywhere, she's in New Boston.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  No, the problem is, is I think that Wade wanted her to not look like him.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  And I think that's the issue, is that when you get a lady that wants to slop her, wants to slop them up, wants to lift, oh, I like her, she could lift a horse on her back. You know what I mean? Like, that's the kinda ladies.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  Julie's gorgeous and she runs my backyard.

• 34:42Speaker 03

  Diamond in the rough, found her in California.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Found her in New York.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  But then you brought her here, you trafficked her here, right? They wouldn't be able to do it. So they are, they're gathered together, right? They, you know, whatever. So this woman then tells him, guess what, baby? I'm about to inherit eight million dollars. This is while they're together, they've been together two months. And he's like, no, fucking shit. And she's just like, not only that, we're gonna, I'm making every one of your dreams come true. She buys him a fucking a hundred thousand dollar car. She buys him the fucking house.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  Buys his mama car, a hog ranch in Oklahoma, everything.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  And the ranch too was like, they set it all up and they went and they toured it. It was this four million dollar property and she's saying, oh, we're gonna, I'm gonna buy it for cash. And she's doing it to make the family jealous. The family's all like, damn, when they show that video and they're like, wow, I guess you guys gonna be living a whole new life.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, they had like a whole presentation over Christmas.

• 35:37Speaker 03

  Yes, and she was just like, yes, we are, we absolutely are. And then the thing is, is that. The guys that went to go look at the real estate people, they started looking into, they're like, okay, four million dollars cash, fucking absolutely, we'll set that up for you, uh, all right now.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  And so they-

• 35:55Speaker 01

  Cause they also come from a part of the country where like, your millionaires look like shit.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  They do. That's what they were, they were like, we'd specifically deal with the clientele that you would not, ma- but if you were to judge a book by its cover, you wouldn't think that they could own multiple million dollar properties.

• 36:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:11Speaker 03

  It's like, no, they do.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  Cause they're all wearing jeans and they're dirty and they're fucking, yeah.

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're in, they, they have agricultural money. They got that agrarian money.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  Real money.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, real money.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  And so they go, and so they go to check it in, and they're like, no one's ever heard of her. And then her, the representative of the oil trust fund, uh, which is really funny, cause they work for a shell company and her name was Shelley.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Yes, no, it's definitely, it lacks any sort of creativity.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Like her, wasn't her lawyer called like Bill Lawington?

• 36:42Speaker 01

  Lawington, yes.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, Lawington, her fake lawyer.

• 36:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was just fucking hilarious. It's my improv, right? It's so funny. And so, while all this is, the money's now starting to have, they're starting to default. On all things they're supposed to pay for.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 03

  Now that it's happening. They repossess the mother's car. They start being like, oh, you can't, you don't have the money for this, you don't have the money.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  She only had it for a couple of months. Cause she showed up with a brand new like Camry or some shit, a sedan.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  It's all on credit. Every single thing was on credit.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  She just got whatever and she financed it. She just put money down and she financed it. And so-

• 37:16Speaker 01

  It seemed like she was good at paperwork.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  It's, it's, or, yeah, or lying to somebody who's just looking to get the down payment and then they'll figure it out after the fucking fact.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  I mean, this is how the housing market collapsed.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  That's what happened. So, when this started, when this house of cards on fallen, she tells Wade, actually, I'm pregnant. Now, they've been together for three months. She, for some reason, has decided that she needs to keep Wade. And the only way she's gonna do this is by telling her, telling him she's pregnant. And they know for a fact, anybody that had known her, knew that she could not be pregnant.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  Well, from her past.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  Yes. So she had reinvented her- In this new world and the thing about Wade is that he's just not curious.

• 37:59Speaker 01

  He just wants to take, he wants to go to work and he wants to work his fucking ass off and he wants to come home and he wants to go to sleep.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  But and the way you kind of put is like, yeah, she kind of says you were pregnant or whatever and we went to look at all, you know, I was like, well, I guess it's gonna be done how it's gonna be done. You know, like he's like.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  It takes a dude like Wade to fall for this type of shit.

• 38:20Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  Cause it's like, you know, you're not going to doctor's appointments, you're not going to all that, you know?

• 38:24Speaker 03

  He kept being like, I tried to go, but then she'd say I, you know, like I was busy or there was something going on and I just didn't go. And he never went to any one of the ultrasounds. He never went to any one of the doctor's appointments because there weren't any.

• 38:37Speaker 01

  There weren't any.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  And then he.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  But also to me, this is where he kind of sucks.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  Cause like if I'm having a baby, which I'm not, if I'm having a baby, I'm going to these goddamn appointments. I'm worried about the baby.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  He's fully checked out and he doesn't want to be there. He doesn't want to be there.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  He stops liking her.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  Oh, almost immediately. He was not into it and she kept him with the baby. She loved Bob and then she kept him with the baby. And his entire family from the get is like, she's not pregnant.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  And they didn't know she couldn't be pregnant, but they're all like, she's not fucking pregnant. She's lying to you.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  She's not showing for like five months, six months.

• 39:11Speaker 03

  So she starts pretending.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  And going online.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  She buys the bump.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  She buys that fake baby bump. She buys something that makes it look like it's kicking.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. She buys something that looks like fucking devious shit, right? And then it's the months are going, they plan the gender reveal, which maybe want to fucking blow my fucking brains out.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Where they brought out a, or they brought out a cow instead of a bull.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  I just, I'm so sick of, all the gender reveal stuff. It's just, I'm so, I'm so sick of all these, everybody's just filling everybody filled with fucking cum. I'm so sick of everybody being swollen with cum. And so there you go.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  I, I hate gender reveals.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  They're stupid.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  I don't think I'll ever go to one.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Don't. Well, well, we're past that, I think.

• 39:52Speaker 01

  I don't think there's any reason to go, go to a gender reveal because I honestly, I don't care what gender your child is.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  Have the, have, have the baby. I want it to be healthy. I think we should have a healthy reveal.

• 40:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, wouldn't that be nice?

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  It's got one head. Hey, how about that?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  So this is, this, so this whole story is fucking crazy.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  So in the meantime, like Taylor's like faking, like because she has no money, she's faking doing all these various things for, for, for work. So one thing she did, which is the, one of the big pavilions of grifters, which we've talked about on this show forever, the photographer. She created a fake photography thing where she's like, oh, I'm a professional photographer. And you have to understand, all you really need to be a professional photographer is a website and a camera. Like, and then someone to pay you and then magically you become a professional photographer.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Exactly. Someone has to believe you're good at your job.

• 40:43Speaker 03

  Yes. So her best friend, how she met her was that she had hired her to be her wedding photographer.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  And so she was the, and she took a bunch of super mediocre pictures of her wedding.

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  And the lady loved them. And they just, the two of them got together.

• 41:01Speaker 01

  Also, this woman Reagan seems like the kindest, most trusting, nice woman. Like she died from kindness.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  Yes. She was just such a truly sweet woman and this woman just destroyed her, obviously destroyed her life. And so by October of 2020, everybody had already assumed the fake miscarriage story was gonna happen.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  This all during the height, the beginning of COVID too.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  It could only have happened during COVID.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, because that's where the doctor's appointments, you, you can only, like, you can't go in because of COVID.

• 41:32Speaker 03

  She used it as a smokescreen for the whole fucking thing. And so they, they go, and so two weeks past her due date. It's now three weeks past her due date, a full 10 months of the baby cooking, right? They don't even go to get the baby. Like, that's what I just don't even understand. I was like, how in the living fuck we're not at the, not at the hospital within that first week to get the baby taken out or, or do any of that.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  There's only one person in my lifetime that I've known that's gone more than nine months.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Like you just want it out of you. Or you wanna, yeah, you wanna get it out.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Induce, like whatever the fuck.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  So many things to do, right? And so they waited until finally the very last minute. And the thing was is that her friend, which is like, she'd done this before every time. Her friend had got pregnant and when Reagan had gotten pregnant, she was obsessed with it. Right? All over her fucking, like, all over, which is how her first group kinda fell apart was that she kind of glommed onto a person's baby shower and baby experience.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  She's obsessed with it.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  She's obsessed with, even though she has two kids she's barely raising.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:35Speaker 03

  That they're off somewhere. They're literally just gone.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  That dude certainly had nothing to do with the documentary.

• 42:40Speaker 03

  No.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Whoever that guy is.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  He wants to never hear her name ever fucking again.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  I mean, talk about someone who dodged a fucking bullet.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. And I guess it's also too, it is just the constant way, just a "How was I supposed to know?" Yeah. And so eventually she would, in this moment of desperation, decide to kill her best friend, steal the baby and pop it out of her. I just don't understand when the lies get to be that big. I know it's a psychological problem. It's like a mental illness.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:15Speaker 03

  But I just don't understand. Like, there were so many off-ramps.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  I mean, to get to murder, like, you have to kill someone I love.

• 43:26Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  For me to get to murder. And then, probably won't, even then. You know, like, it's like, I'll still go to the police.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 43:32Speaker 01

  You know, like, it's like, it's like, so to get to murder, you're just evil.

• 43:36Speaker 03

  And just the fact that they all did not, straight up, no one wanted to dig deep enough into this issue.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  Well, that's because his friend, the people who did, their friends, when they approached Wade, he cut him out of his life.

• 43:50Speaker 03

  And just-

• 43:51Speaker 01

  He's like, "This is my wife, this is my child, you know, you're talking this shit," you know?

• 43:54Speaker 03

  I would love to put it out there-

• 43:56Speaker 01

  That was my favorite guy, his friend that was always in the camouflage. I actually really like that guy.

• 44:00Speaker 03

  I felt so bad for him. That guy had no business being mixed up in all this shit.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Cause he was just like, cause his wife knew something was fishy and she's checking shit all night in bed. And he's just like, "Will you stop? Will you please just stop? We gotta go to sleep." But she was right.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  Well, cause every time, I loved his attitude, cause it was like, "Lision, I don't wanna get into another conspiracy theory." Alright, that kinda makes sense.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, alright, I wanna stop all this, we're fighting this.

• 44:27Speaker 03

  She did what?

• 44:28Speaker 01

  What? Wait a second, what?

• 44:31Speaker 03

  Like, every single time, and it's like, he's at least being like, oh no. Cause he's like trying to get to his buddy, and Wade is just like, you know, they're just, the men, examine your lives.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  That is the, cause that's the key here, guys. Examine your life. Don't let just things just happen to you.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  Also, it's just like Wade, you know, Wade definitely sucks or he's stupid, uh, in my opinion.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  I think more so than anything, he's stupid.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's, I think it's one or the other, but like, to throw your friends away for a person you don't even like.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  Well, you barely even know, well, cause it's this idea that, because the problem getting this pride, this is this idea that, well, now she's the mother of my child. Like, no dude, she just caught some gunk, bro.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Also.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  Just fucking, she just did it.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  I think it's insecure big boy disease, too.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  It is.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  You think you're never gonna find another person, cause you're a big boy.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  And that she's kinda cute, and so he thought, and cause she does all the dumb hog stuff.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:30Speaker 03

  Cause she's kinda cute and she does all the hog stuff, and she doesn't also have a mustache.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  That's why he wants to stay.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  Yes, but he doesn't understand, it's not enough, y'all.

• 45:39Speaker 01

  It really isn't.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  It's fucking not enough, y'all, to stay. Unless, of course, they're gonna teach you how to run a cult. And that's the problem, is like, they never do, unless you can involve a Peter Thiel.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh my god.

• 45:51Speaker 03

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• 49:55Speaker 04

  Live from your grave.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  This next story is going to reverberate for the next several years. And we're gonna have no real idea what's happening inside of this story, probably ever.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we finally got some proof that the fucking, like the Illuminati exists in a weird way. That's what this is, right?

• 50:17Speaker 03

  The worst part about this is, I think it actually proves something that we've been talking about a long time, which is the capital I Illuminati never existed, but our current group of loser billionaires are trying to create one.

• 50:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:32Speaker 03

  Uh, and it's not working. So-

• 50:34Speaker 01

  And this is past Bohemian Grove. This is crazier.

• 50:37Speaker 03

  Well, who knows? Who knows? So it has just come out. It came out on Friday. Huge expose on Peter Thiel through Wired Magazine.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  Good job Wired.

• 50:46Speaker 03

  Good work about this secret group he put together called Dialogue. And it is, it's like, so first of all, Dialogue has had its website and its membership secret ever since it was made, I think it was in

• 51:00Speaker 01

  2006.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, 2006. And we have had no idea what's in there or what they do, right?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  So it's a 20-year-old fucking tech oligarch crew.

• 51:08Speaker 03

  Yes. So Peter Thiel, every year, and I guess last year, for the very first time, they have, they're now constructing a permanent campus in DC.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  Around DC, yes.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is gonna happen. As we see the construction work in DC is going really well.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  So I think that's gonna be a banger, you know? And so Peter Thiel, he is, he created this, this idea of like, alright, it's, all of these intellectuals are gonna get together. And there's a members and guest list you're gonna be, and then we're gonna do this whole thing. And it was just revealed by a bunch of hackers that pulled out, they got, somehow there was a loophole in their security because all these guys are so fucking, they're barely tell what the hell's happening.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  They're so up their own ass and think they're so brilliant, they don't see people, they don't think they can get attacked like this.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  They don't think that they can, which just also shows they're open

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  to attack, right?

• 52:04Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  They're open to it, so more of this.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  It is the same person who hacked the no-fly list.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Yes, more and more of this. So, because remember, Peter Thiel straight up says he doesn't believe that freedom and democracy are compatible, and he also ran to Argentina, so.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  And it might have something to do with this news. We now know that some of the guys that went to this thing were police, people like Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, Sarah Bond, Ted Cruz, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the actor.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  Brian Johnson, the vampire man that is stealing blood from his son.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Cory Booker.

• 52:35Speaker 03

  Cory Booker is a really fun one, and then also, it's, it is this thing, so he's bringing people together.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Ezra Klein?

• 52:41Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  Ezra Klein?

• 52:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Like, that's crazy to me.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  It is a, it is across the board.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  Everyone's bought and sold.

• 52:48Speaker 03

  It is important to remember, guys, that they're all on one team. This is still the fucking lesson, is that it's not about left or right. It's about a certain amount of money in your bank account gets you access to certain things, and it changes your brain, and you start to think of the rest of us as fucking expendable.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:09Speaker 03

  And so that is what is happening. So this guy, in the conference, they're doing all these, like, funny, cute things. So first is the, one is just the topic of, they all get together, like, one of the topics was just World War III.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  And the other one was the pros and cons of AI.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Right?

• 53:25Speaker 01

  Which just seem like stuff that we expect them to talk about.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  That's what leaders do. But then there's one called, "How to Start a, How to Run a Cult."

• 53:33Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  There was another one called, uh, the, the one that was-

• 53:36Speaker 01

  That was also, I think, you're, you're, you're, you're going past how to build a cult. It was moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site, Pray.com.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Yes. And then there's another one that was called, "It's Fun to Be in Charge."

• 53:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:51Speaker 03

  Right? Which is, God knows what that means.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  Money does buy happiness?

• 53:54Speaker 03

  That's what's another one, that, another class that was called, "Money Does Buy Happiness."

• 53:58Speaker 01

  And then, "How's Your Sex Life?", of course.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Yes. Because, the big thing here is, one of the big, interesting factors of dialogue, is that not only is it a think tank, not only is it a summer vacation, it's also a fuck shed, because what they do is matchmake there.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  Which, to me, was one of the first things that rang a giant bell. Right? It was like, I just saw this bell, ring, ring, ring, ring. As soon as I saw the, the, the option to fuck, right? The option where-

• 54:31Speaker 01

  Well, they help elite people find elite people, is what they say.

• 54:34Speaker 03

  They help billionaires fuck, because they can't close, okay? Because they literally are reptiles with no human emotions.

• 54:44Speaker 01

  If they were humans, they'd be millionaires.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  They'd be normal millionaires with chicks.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 03

  Okay?

• 54:49Speaker 01

  And like, giving back to society and shit.

• 54:50Speaker 03

  They'd be just normal guys having fun, if they were normal people. But they're not. And so, guess where this all brings us to? It's an island adventure. So, yes, of course, it comes back to Jeffrey Epstein. So there was a email exchange from Jeffrey Epstein where he says, Peter Thiel loves your secret society idea. He's trying to go on off the grounds. He has a mail. I'm gonna figure it out. It's all connected all the way fucking back. So Peter Thiel, we now know that dialogue emails are all through the Epstein emails. And the reason why we didn't find them up till now was because we didn't know the names of the society yet.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  Also, yeah, a word like dialogue.

• 55:32Speaker 03

  Means nothing.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Means nothing until you learn of the existence of this secret organization called that.

• 55:37Speaker 03

  So now he, we have all of these emails. We have no idea whether Jeffrey Epstein was going or not. We know that people were keeping him up to date with what they were talking about.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  He was full on invited.

• 55:47Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. We just don't know if he went, which he did, probably did. And so then they also were, and when he didn't go, they sent him materials from what they were talking about.

• 55:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  So it's all connected back. And again, we don't know if they actually make policy decisions or what they do, but the fact that they're all getting together and they're all super secret about it, to me, is, doesn't, uh, bode well.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's everybody. It's people who own major corporations. It's senators. It's, it's everybody.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  Oh, no. And Jason Gordon Levitt was just like, I thought that they was an interesting conversation. And then it's like the other guys were all like.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  Ted Cruz is there. I don't know how you're gonna have an interesting conversation with him.

• 56:35Speaker 03

  Because Ted Cruz's connections in the government and you're just happy he's there.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:39Speaker 03

  And you love the fact that he's a flawed sociopath because those are the best people to manipulate.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 56:45Speaker 03

  Yep. So that's like, the thing is, we are, uh, we're still being held under the thumb of these people and they think it's funny. I think that's what's hard is that they think it's so funny and cute.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  What am I supposed to do? Get rid of PayPal? I don't got time for this shit.

• 57:00Speaker 03

  No, PayPal's done. Unfortunately, it's not even the software, buddy. We, our.

• 57:07Speaker 03

  I love the idea of boycotts and what we're doing here.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:10Speaker 03

  Right? I don't think that's gonna move the needle as much as-

• 57:14Speaker 01

  Me not using PayPal isn't gonna change anything.

• 57:16Speaker 03

  I think what's gonna move the needle-

• 57:18Speaker 01

  It's just gonna make my life harder.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  I think eventually, we're all gonna have to show up in front of a bunch of data centers. I think that's gonna be a thing we're gonna have to do at some point. But I think that's the later on conversation for if and when Peter Thiel somehow survives the military police of Argentina, which I still believe that he could end up being-

• 57:36Speaker 01

  They're protecting him. The President of Argentina said it's a haven for billionaires.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  But also, guess what? Then everybody has their price.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:44Speaker 03

  So guess what?

• 57:44Speaker 01

  It's cheaper. Their price is way cheaper in Argentina, I'm sure.

• 57:48Speaker 03

  But guess what? If he's undercutting them, somebody will come, fucking overpay them to kill them. If it's just about money, baby, there's always somebody who's willing to pay you a little bit more.

• 57:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  Especially if it comes down to hog-tieing a fucking billionaire.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  That's who we need. We need Wade.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  We need Wade.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  Wade can redeem himself.

• 58:08Speaker 03

  I don't know if Wade has enough attention to detail for this job.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  We just need him tying.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, but just get me to the hogs.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  We could practice on Ted Cruz. He's local.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  Why does he have so many hogs?

• 58:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. The other thing that we forgot is the reason like the story went so long, going back to Parker, I know that we're done talking about that, but I think like what made it so interesting to me, and the reason she got away with it for so long, and by for so long, I mean like hours, not like days or anything like that, is because she killed Reagan in Oklahoma and then drove to Texas.

• 58:40Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 58:40Speaker 01

  So it gave them a little bit longer to connect the news stories just because of the state line.

• 58:45Speaker 03

  No, she did it, uh, she thought that she was doing it savagely. She thought that she was doing it correctly, and she wasn't.

• 58:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  No, she was flawed.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  Man, but I fucking, I don't think there's anyone, it's weird, I feel like Peter Thiel has taken over Elon for a person I hate most.

• 59:01Speaker 03

  I don't know. I really don't know.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  You know, maybe I should just hate them everyone the same.

• 59:05Speaker 03

  I do. That's what I do.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  Don't rank them.

• 59:07Speaker 03

  Nah.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  It's like people who rank their friends.

• 59:09Speaker 03

  Nah.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  What's wrong with that? Oh, God, you know, like wedding parties, you know, it's like, come on.

• 59:15Speaker 03

  Because guess what you always do? Every wedding, one friendship is ruined.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, you put someone in there that shouldn't have been in there, and then the next thing you know, every picture's ruined.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  Yep. Oh, no, believe me.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:25Speaker 03

  Oh, no, believe me.

• 59:28Speaker 03

  So we have a, alright, this is another big news event. I'm certain everybody, this is honestly big ups to robots. We have our very first official kill of a human being by an autonomous robot in the field of battle. And guess who used it? Ukraine.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Ukraine!

• 59:48Speaker 03

  Ukraine used it. It's very fascinating. It is the very first time that they have used a machine in which they said that it can fly out. It goes into Terminator mode, quote unquote.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  It's exactly the mode that called it.

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  Yep. And it kills everybody. That's what they said. Is that they sent it out there, and don't worry if there's somebody out there that you want to kill, it will kill. We just, according to the guy from Kokonovski, "We just launch it and we know everything will be dead. Everything that will be found there in this particular area will be dead. There is no connection to the drone at all. You cannot see in the video, nothing. Everything it sees will be killed."

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  We don't even know how many people are killed.

• 1:00:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it says a couple of guys.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  It says it killed a couple of Russian soldiers and one truck.

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  What does it mean it killed the truck?

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  But the, uh, this is the first one.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  And the only reason we know is because they sent in a manned drone afterwards.

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  To make sure.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  To see what happened. And then it did its fucking job.

• 1:00:47Speaker 03

  Because the thing is, the IDF has suicide drones, but it still takes a human to trigger them. And then there's other, we have military drones.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Because they have a moral code, Henry. They have such a moral code.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  Well, the moral code requires them to see a child and explode it. Like, that's the problem is that when it's the moral code to kill the child, then technically they're correct. And so, but we have suicide drones that we use and we, we, we do stuff like that. And we, we try. But this is the very first time just a robot's done it. And I just want to say, congrats to the Jackie Robinson of, of, of AI robots out on the battlefield. Because you know, it's really, really hard out there for robots, especially volunteer army. And these guys, they really are, that's, that's fighting for freedom.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Now, we have used Claude to bomb Iran.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  And they believe that it was Claude who actually chose to blow up that school. Very, very early on.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, it sounds like a really useful way to sort of blame somebody else.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:48Speaker 03

  Uh, no, it's all fake. Also, just to know-

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  But either way, you still used Claude, and if Claude killed the school full of children, you did it.

• 1:01:54Speaker 03

  You did it. Uh, listen, you did it. Humans are still telling them what to do. Yes. It autonomously killed a bunch of people. But it was just told to kill a bunch of people that looked like this and are identified-

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  It was built to kill people.

• 1:02:06Speaker 03

  Yes. So it's not just doing it. It's not like it, if it, this is how it's AI, guys. Is if it was built to make waffles and it started to kill people. And if it's not, if it's built to make waffles and it's making waffles, guess what it is? It's washing, it's a waffle machine. Even if you call it an AI waffle machine. It's just a fucking waffle machine. Like, this concept of AI that's being thrown around is a buzzword that means absolutely nothing. When they say AI's in your fridge, it means nothing. When AI's in your TV, it means nothing. It's a fucking computer program. It's software. That's all it is. It's a way to sell you-

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  But it's software that's not made by a human.

• 1:02:44Speaker 03

  No, yes it is. The software is made by a human and then it goes in.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  I was at this great Jewish-Chinese wedding this weekend. You gotta try it sometime.

• 1:02:51Speaker 03

  I know, you sound great, honestly. I want the food.

• 1:02:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh god, it was wonderful. But the thing is, I was, it was in Seattle, and there was a bunch of, uh, code writers there at the wedding. There was a bunch of tech people there, and I was like, they were literally, were like, talking about how they miss writing code, that they don't, not allowed to write code anymore, that all code is written by AI.

• 1:03:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, and what we're gonna have see is-

• 1:03:11Speaker 01

  I never thought of code that way.

• 1:03:12Speaker 03

  It, code is art.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  As a writer, I never thought of code as something you write.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  No, it's a code and it's an art. It is way more of an art than it is anything else. And what we're seeing, Eddie, is the fact that we are racing towards a giant brick wall-

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:29Speaker 03

  -in which all of these companies that are gonna be held up by these fake AI programs, cuz they're ju, we're just using the words AI. We're just using the term.

• 1:03:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  It's just a computer program. It's not thinking. It's just doing stuff. It's not actually thinking and what we're gonna see is that once we're really depended on quote unquote AI coders, we're gonna see these websites falling apart.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, but.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Everything's gonna fall apart.

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  And they are kind of thinking, bots are thinking in a way.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  See, again, we are, this is the issue, is we have to think about what the term thinking means.

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:06Speaker 03

  Is it making its own independent choices from data it's getting independently? And then deciding to do something unique? That's thinking.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  Well, what's the difference between Google AI and then going, then this Ukrainian fucking drone killing people that it just chooses?

• 1:04:24Speaker 03

  Well, Google AI is really just kind of shortening news articles and it's always wrong. And then the same thing with, uh, this technology is that you don't think that this AI technology is not gonna kill the wrong people.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  Of course it's gonna kill the wrong people, but we do kill the wrong people in war every day.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  I know, we're just moving blame to more and even more inefficient source.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  Obama killed hundreds of his civilians.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  And he did it by hand, like a real man. Like a real fucking man. I'm just saying, thinking is not what they're saying it is. It's just working as a computer program. It is not thinking. So this idea that they are, that they're little people in here doing stuff and that they're little miracle machines is completely a false spill of goods. And it's why we're heading towards a, it's why our economy is wildly bloated right now. And we're gonna, we're heading towards whatever the fall is gonna be.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  It's gonna be fucked up.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Well, you know, what's funny is that it could be, or we could, it does also seem to be that the, there's enough blood in the water right now that more and more people are pulling out, that as long as a lot of these things don't go to IPO, we'll be fine.

• 1:05:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  Truly, our economy will be fine as long as they don't take over the entire fucking thing. And because thankfully, it seems that they're failing with record speed. So the more they fail and the faster they fail, the more we'll get past this little period. And then eventually AI will do what it needs to do, which is just supposed to do fucking, it's supposed to help you make your maps more efficient.

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  It's so crazy that AI is getting all these second chances that like if a human made these same mistakes, they would just be fired immediately.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  That's because they already fired all the people.

• 1:06:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:06Speaker 03

  They fired all the people and the people are coming back and being like, you want me to fix your little problem? How about you give me fucking 20K more a year?

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  That's what I would do.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  Oh, absolutely.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  Definitely.

• 1:06:15Speaker 01

  You should do.

• 1:06:15Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, this is all so scary.

• 1:06:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you know, I, on some level, it is frightening. And then on another level, I believe it's going to play out in a, in a, uh, medium way. Like, it's gonna play out in a middle way.

• 1:06:31Speaker 01

  I think it's gonna play out and a lot of people are gonna fucking die. They're already dying.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. People are dying, a lot more people are gonna die, and a bunch more people are gonna die.

• 1:06:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  But I do think that in the end, AI won't work.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  Of course it won't.

• 1:06:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Cause it can't think.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  Cause it doesn't think.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:45Speaker 03

  Cause we don't even know how we think. So how the fuck are we gonna make a facsimile of how we think if we don't know how the fuck we think? Because our thinker is the one doing the thinking, and when we look at the thinker, we have a hard time figuring out what the thinker's doing because we are inside the thinker.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  We obviously don't know how people think because who would've ever thought that Taylor Parker would've done what she did?

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  Me.

• 1:07:08Speaker 03

  I can tell by the hair.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  I can tell by the hair and the eyebrow combination. I can tell, absolutely. All right, we got another, we got a more fun story.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  There's one, one, one more story, one more story.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  Well, this is one of those where I just like covering this type of stuff because we never do. And it's just like, I don't know what this is, and I want somebody to send me more about. I'm fascinated with guys like this. Have you seen, there's, there are guys that for religious devotionals do specific physical things? And then they go like change, like I remember there was a one guy, remember the guy that got like, he stuck his hand in the air for like 15 years?

• 1:07:41Speaker 01

  Okay, yes.

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  So this is a guy stood in same place for 12 years as a vow to the god Shiva, right?

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  But the only reason why I even wanna talk about it was just like, man, his fucking feet. Wow.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, they look bad.

• 1:08:00Speaker 03

  Just look at him. Like, it's not even, it's like his feet have turned into two giant blood-filled, like, pedestals.

• 1:08:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, he, uh, I mean, those feet are gonna fall off.

• 1:08:12Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, that's the idea.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  They're black.

• 1:08:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Speaker 01

  They're, they're gone.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  They're, they're attached to his legs still, but they're useless and they're gone.

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  But you know, it's fine, I, I just think it's interesting that he keeps doing it and, you know, he's still got his- He's technically still got his toenails.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  So like, why is he doing it, though?

• 1:08:28Speaker 03

  It is a devotional. It's called Standing Penance. It's like, what so he does is he has been, it's an extreme austerity measure. That he does as a way to achieve spiritual oneness slash as a devotional to his god Shiva. That he personally has taken to be his own personal god.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, Shiva exists. Lots of people pray to Shiva.

• 1:08:52Speaker 03

  Dude, look, he's moving his legs.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  A billion people pray to Shiva.

• 1:08:56Speaker 03

  But dude, look at this.

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  No one does this.

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, because he's special, dude. He's Timothy Chamaly. Look at this. Like, he's wearing, even wearing the Knicks orange.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:03Speaker 03

  Just like him.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he's hip.

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, look at him, Nixon Five. He was there.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 1:09:09Speaker 03

  It's like, alright, my.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  I'm disgusted by this.

• 1:09:12Speaker 03

  I'm standing too long. My, my, my feet. I'm trying to do the rhyme. My, I'm, my, my feet, my feet are black. My tunix orange.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, sir.

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  Oh, God, was it hot. Nixon Five. Ah, I gotta.

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  I mean, my feet are black. My skirt is orange.

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  My Shiva got five arms.

• 1:09:35Speaker 03

  Nixon Five.

• 1:09:38Speaker 03

  Right? There he went.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 1:09:41Speaker 03

  But here, do you see the one of him stretching?

• 1:09:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, he has to, he wasn't actually doing it on his own. He was using a board with ropes to lean on.

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  Well, he's great, he's got a glam squad.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  Well, he's like.

• 1:09:52Speaker 03

  That's how he sleeps.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I, I mean, he's not doing it then.

• 1:09:56Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:09:56Speaker 01

  Then he didn't even do it, because he needs help.

• 1:09:58Speaker 03

  Enough for you.

• 1:09:59Speaker 01

  See, he, he didn't, well, no.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  This isn't enough for Shiva for you.

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  Cause is so stupid that it's like, it's like, alright, if this is your cause, you're not even doing it. You've wasted your legs for no fucking reason.

• 1:10:11Speaker 03

  But what else is he gonna do with them?

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  Get a job!

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  This is a job.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  This isn't a job. He don't get paid for this?

• 1:10:19Speaker 03

  Actually, side stories, L P O T L at gmail dot com, but I'm pretty certain that guys like this do actually get paid. And then the people donate money to them and they become like venerable, like you know, like-

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  But how is he even gonna use it? He don't move.

• 1:10:31Speaker 03

  In India and all these areas, they have like guru culture.

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:35Speaker 03

  So people go and find the guru and then there's like a devotional like relationship is pretty, I don't think it's common, but I do know that it's way more like, we don't have that here. Like they have it there, but they like, they have like a whole thing where it's way more common for them to sort of rally around a spe- a local spiritual leader.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:57Speaker 03

  Because it's, there's so many people. And they also, I wanna say, is Hinduism is polytheistic?

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  I don't know, but his legs are starting to look like Ganesha's. Tell you that much.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  God, it's fucking ass.

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  It's horrible, man.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  It's fucking ass.

• 1:11:16Speaker 03

  So you're saying you don't like those legs? You're saying he doesn't look like a fucking dingy, he doesn't, he couldn't redo the scene from Basic Instinct?

• 1:11:22Speaker 01

  I feel like-

• 1:11:23Speaker 03

  Can you imagine the smell?

• 1:11:24Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  Of that scene from him?

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  I mean, his feet are, I mean, they exist, but like, I just, they're so big and black. They're so big and black. He should not have Shaq's feet.

• 1:11:37Speaker 03

  I know, but it's fun. It's fun. He did it to himself.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  God, it's disgusting. And it makes no sense to me.

• 1:11:44Speaker 03

  Oh, Hinduism is not, it's not necessarily a pantheism. Many deities.

• 1:11:49Speaker 01

  It's not bad as far as religions go. It could be worse.

• 1:11:52Speaker 03

  It's got its, I actually have no idea.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  As far as religions go, Hindu is like, fine. It's definitely better than Catholicism.

• 1:11:59Speaker 03

  It's very, it seems that it's way more like, like Hinduism seems like it's way more fluid.

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure. Whatever. I'm a fucking atheist. None of it's real.

• 1:12:15Speaker 03

  He's certainly not fluid for this guy.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  No, it was not. It is quite silent.

• 1:12:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's quite silent.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  No, no, no. It doesn't matter. Anything that makes you do this, I can't be on board with.

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  He's not being made to do it. He's in a gut.

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  He thinks he's supposed to, though.

• 1:12:29Speaker 03

  Well, he's doing extreme. He's doing extreme.

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  This is extreme.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, other people just normally just will do it for a little while.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, if you lived in America, you would just be a racist Tea Party member.

• 1:12:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, probably.

• 1:12:45Speaker 03

  Uh, but I just say it's just nice to see somebody with some discipline. Everybody's so lazy.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  Goddamn.

• 1:12:50Speaker 03

  So let's get into some listener letters.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:12:55Speaker 03

  I actually have a really fucking good one.

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  All right, I want to hear of it.

• 1:12:58Speaker 03

  So first of all.

• 1:13:00Speaker 01

  God, everybody wants me to change my deodorant.

• 1:13:02Speaker 03

  Well, I told you about that.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  You go to gut, like, first of all, thank you to everybody that messaged about Ed's armpits.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  I had one guy be like, they sell, they, they, they, they sell Mitchum at this place, at that place, at this place, and it's like, I go, they're out. What do you want from me? You're gonna call me a liar?

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  No, you should just go and get changed to native.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  I ordered a bunch of Mitchum online. Thank you, everybody.

• 1:13:26Speaker 03

  Oh, you did?

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  I'm fine.

• 1:13:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, you bought a crate of it online?

• 1:13:28Speaker 01

  I'm good for the year.

• 1:13:30Speaker 03

  It seemed like it would have been easier, it was an easy solution, but.

• 1:13:33Speaker 01

  I did it. And it's done. No muss, no fuss.

• 1:13:36Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 1:13:38Speaker 03

  Wow. Oh, dude, you know what else we didn't cover, really?

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:13:43Speaker 03

  That, the fall, I know last week we covered like with Sketchy Andy and all the, the guys that all the, the Daredevil stuff.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:49Speaker 03

  We never really, like, we talked about the lady falling during the bungee cord incident where she didn't have it attached.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, I didn't really, it was still developing.

• 1:13:57Speaker 03

  Did you watch the video?

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  No, I don't watch that type of shit.

• 1:14:01Speaker 03

  Oh, my, no, they don't see anything. The video's crazy. The video, they lift her up over their heads. So what they do here is...

• 1:14:10Speaker 01

  How did they not know? There's three people holding her over her head. How could you not tell there's not a rope attached to her? I can tell just by looking at it, by sight.

• 1:14:16Speaker 03

  They're all now under investigation because if you hear the video.

• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  It looks like murder.

• 1:14:21Speaker 03

  Dude, if you hear the video, everyone's like, stop, stop, she's not connected, she's not connected. Like, you hear people telling them that she's not connected. You see the rope down on the ground. They're all giggling and laughing like it's funny, and then they literally javelin her off the side of the fucking mountain. Just throw her off. I did not know that.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  Now I gotta see the video.

• 1:14:44Speaker 03

  And not only do they throw her, it's not a bungee cord dude, it's just a shitty rope.

• 1:14:50Speaker 01

  God damn.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  Look at that dude. They just fucking threw her in the fucking ravine, man.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:14:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, they just threw her in dude. So they're all under, they're all under investigation now.

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  Obviously.

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:15:04Speaker 03

  And she had a body cam on too.

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  Oh, she did?

• 1:15:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a body cam footage out somewhere, but.

• 1:15:09Speaker 01

  Did that survive?

• 1:15:10Speaker 03

  No, I know. Who knows? But honestly, it'd be a great, great advertisement for that GoPro.

• 1:15:15Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:15:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, right there. Just boom, done. Wow. Just toss her right off the side, dude. Yeah.

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  I just thought it was like a little accident. I didn't realize like three people picked her up and then tossed her.

• 1:15:27Speaker 03

  No, white people are stupid, man.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's real bad. Yeah, they tossed her right, tossed her right off the thing, just javelin her right into the ground. Never do anything remotely fun, guys. I, my thing is no helicopters, no bungee cords, no jumping out of planes.

• 1:15:41Speaker 01

  Helicopters, you can't, all right, first off.

• 1:15:43Speaker 03

  No more of this shit.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  Helicopters, you can't put on the same level as this.

• 1:15:49Speaker 03

  Well, well, yeah.

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  No, no, you're right, you're right.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  This is like, that's like, this is crazy. This is, first of all, no one should be bungee jumping. And if you are bungee jumping, like.

• 1:16:00Speaker 03

  Think about it.

• 1:16:01Speaker 01

  Think about, I don't know, just you don't need to do it.

• 1:16:03Speaker 03

  Get into weightlifting.

• 1:16:04Speaker 01

  I don't, I just don't get it, man.

• 1:16:05Speaker 03

  Get find other thrills.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, thanks.

• 1:16:07Speaker 03

  Stop trusting carnies.

• 1:16:10Speaker 01

  Get in the Evo Taylor. I'm, I, hours I spend and I'm completely enthralled.

• 1:16:15Speaker 03

  Anybody that, I don't care what level of professional establishment you go to.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:21Speaker 03

  Anybody that is operating a bungee jumping thing is a carny.

• 1:16:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:16:28Speaker 03

  It is the same person that runs the tilt-a-whirl.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  It is.

• 1:16:32Speaker 03

  You have to know that.

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  Anytime you are doing business with somebody who is not under a roof.

• 1:16:39Speaker 03

  You're taking a chance.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  You're taking your life in your hands.

• 1:16:44Speaker 03

  Never trust these people.

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  Whether it's a hot dog cart.

• 1:16:47Speaker 03

  It does. Oh man, that's the thing. I wouldn't even eat street food. Never mind getting thrown off a bridge by some guy.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  I would love to. You guys go skydiving.

• 1:16:58Speaker 03

  Oh, no, I'll kill, I'll kill the pilot.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  Henry and I both are scared of heights.

• 1:17:03Speaker 03

  I'll kill the pilot. I'd rather die in a plane crash of my own hand than having them force me out the fucking way. That'll happen. I'll kill the pilot with my bare hands before they force me out of the plane.

• 1:17:12Speaker 01

  Man, the only way I would ever skydive is if, I, I don't even know, if like I had to in war and even then probably just die.

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  Honestly, the only way you're gonna get me to do it if it's, if it's a high level, uh, movie job.

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:26Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 1:17:27Speaker 01

  It's so weird. You'd do anything for that.

• 1:17:28Speaker 03

  Anything for that.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  Anything for, as long as it's filled, as long as it's content, you're down.

• 1:17:33Speaker 03

  I have done it, many things I'm scared of.

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:37Speaker 03

  On camera.

• 1:17:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:39Speaker 03

  But that's it.

• 1:17:39Speaker 01

  And one of those things is just touching a horse.

• 1:17:41Speaker 03

  I hate a horse. Horse is scary. It fucking scared out of me. You know that it scares us. You all know that about me. Y'all know me. Alright, so this story, this next one, I take nothing from this story, please. But I loved, I thought this story was really fucking interesting because of the story we covered last week of the guy that killed pedophiles. It was hunting pedophiles.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:06Speaker 03

  So this is this guy.

• 1:18:09Speaker 03

  I work for a local DA. And you're suggesting, and you were suggesting some alternatives to vigilante violence against pedophiles. Cause remember we were saying, we don't need to kill them. We can glue their mailbox shut. We could slash their tires, you know, like stuff like that. We don't, just torch them.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Cut their feet off.

• 1:18:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, just like, again, move, break into their home while they're not there, move their furniture around and leave.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  Convince them to pray to Shiva.

• 1:18:31Speaker 03

  Yes. Lots of fun stuff.

• 1:18:35Speaker 03

  So that story, it reminded me of a wild case I handled involving an internet vigilante, we'll call Bob. Bob decided to take up a hobby of posing as young boys online to bait predators. He would constantly dump chat logs, documents and recordings into the local law enforcement to assist them in community safety. And he would periodically, he'd lose his shit in law enforcement when, quote, "nothing was being done about it."

• 1:19:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:19:02Speaker 03

  The process is never as fast or as simple as people think. And Bob, who was a psychopath.

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:19:08Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:19:08Speaker 01

  In order to do something, to spend all day.

• 1:19:10Speaker 03

  You're gonna be crazy.

• 1:19:11Speaker 01

  Hunting pedophiles, you're crazy.

• 1:19:12Speaker 03

  Yes. Eventually, Bob targeted a prominent community figure who actively worked with adolescents. Bob used the old pedophile's life against him. He did his research and we used. Specific details about the predator's life to scare him. Like, if you don't turn yourself in, I'm emailing our entire chat history to Janet in accounting. Now, this pedophile, he had no record. He was acres out of his mind, right?

• 1:19:41Speaker 03

  But this is what amazing. Is that this guy that he randomly chose happened to actually be a pedophile. So, this guy starts going fucking crazy. Right? He starts pleading with Bob. Bargaining. Offering Bob massive sums of money to keep quiet. Promising never to do it again, etc. And right at the height of the predator's panic, Bob suddenly went radio silent. No warnings, no replies. The pedophile continued to message Bob. His panic and fear about being exposed growing every day in the empty unanswered thread. Two months go by. Bob reappears. Picking right up back where he left off. A wave of relief washes over the predator.

• 1:20:25Speaker 03

  He still may, he might even have a chance. He resumes his pleading and begging and his excuses for a couple more weeks with Bob. Then radio silence again.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  Wow, he's really torturing him.

• 1:20:35Speaker 03

  The predator thought he was dealing with a cold, calculated, methodical mastermind who's letting him sweat. In reality, our quote-unquote "mastermind" Bob, he was in and out of jail for drugs, menacing, obstruction, disorderly conduct. Just overall being a total pain in the ass to law enforcement. So after a few cycles of this, the pedo broke. He was so terrified of Bob's looming silent threats that he actually went to the police station and turned himself in.

• 1:21:05Speaker 01

  Oh, that's cool.

• 1:21:06Speaker 03

  Reading that nine-month text chain of communication was one of the most hilarious moments of my career. The predator legit thought he was being dismantled by a genius technical operation. The judge on intake that we comedically let the defendant know that Bob was just a chaotic force of nature who had no idea his own legal troubles were driving a pedophile straight into a jail cell. So, scrugly gluing mailboxes, psychological pressure can really force them to face the legal system and at a minimum ruin any comfort in their day to their lives and force them to maybe refrain from their tendencies.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  It definitely kept children safe around this guy.

• 1:21:42Speaker 03

  It definitely did. And then I do wonder though, if institutional justice is too slow and vigilante violence is wrong, is weaponized exposure and psychological pressure a valid alternative? Or does relying on chaotic unhinged actors like Bob just create a different kind of danger for the community?

• 1:21:56Speaker 01

  I, I think eventually a pedophile will just kill everybody.

• 1:21:59Speaker 03

  I think that Bob.

• 1:22:00Speaker 01

  Instead of going to prison.

• 1:22:01Speaker 03

  I do also believe that, well, hopefully just kill himself. But I also believe that Bob is too non-directed for us to say that that's the way to always do this, but I would say it's a great start.

• 1:22:13Speaker 01

  I think people like Bob, you know, definitely exist and they're usually wrong.

• 1:22:19Speaker 03

  Most of the time they're, that's unfortunate. Most of the time what they're doing, and I'll tell you as a matter of fact, if you're remotely of any sort of public presence in this life, you get constantly accused of insane fucked up shit 24/7 by people and you just don't know. So, I feel like, yeah, he was just real lucky. And that's what I would say is that you gotta figure out, you gotta know the guy is molesting people first.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's so weird to like pose as a child to try and get.

• 1:22:47Speaker 03

  To entrap them.

• 1:22:49Speaker 01

  Is that illegal?

• 1:22:50Speaker 03

  Not if you're a police officer.

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  But if you're Bob.

• 1:22:53Speaker 03

  Well, the problem is that.

• 1:22:54Speaker 01

  This isn't why Bob got in trouble.

• 1:22:55Speaker 03

  It is not.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  It is not illegal.

• 1:22:57Speaker 03

  You can do that, a lot of people do.

• 1:22:59Speaker 01

  But it does, uh, does not necessarily lead to a conviction in court.

• 1:23:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  That's kind of the problem. The problem is that you're getting a bunch of evidence illegally, you're getting the evidence illegally, so for the court.

• 1:23:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:11Speaker 01

  So none of it's gonna.

• 1:23:12Speaker 03

  Matter.

• 1:23:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:14Speaker 03

  Some courts, some like police stations work with some of these guys.

• 1:23:17Speaker 01

  Some do.

• 1:23:18Speaker 03

  Like the vigilante guys, some of them. Hate them, some of them work with them. We're pains in the asses. Yeah, but I think like. And they also are really, really irresponsible. For the most part, I think they're doing good. Yeah, they're fine. Yeah. But I would say any form of vigilante judges has to be, it all is involve risk and it all is, uh, it's one of those. It all, it's very risky behavior, but that's why I'm still saying just fucking bag of dog shit on the front. Step. Yeah. Set it on fire.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  Oh, the other thing I feel like is worth mentioning is that no one has a nice thing to say about sketchy Andy.

• 1:23:52Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:23:55Speaker 03

  No, there's some people.

• 1:23:56Speaker 01

  He was not liked by his community.

• 1:23:58Speaker 03

  Well, a lot of people were like, he was just trying to bring, uh, you know, awareness, awareness to base jumping. And it's like, they're pretty, people are aware. Yeah. Uh, they're aware. If they know about base jumping, they know about it. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I don't think it's one of those that needs to, you know, it's just base jumping. I don't think it's like.

• 1:24:19Speaker 03

  A guy, you know, like a systemic issue.

• 1:24:22Speaker 01

  Oh, and don't touch miniature horses.

• 1:24:24Speaker 03

  I won't.

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  We know you're scared of the regular.

• 1:24:27Speaker 03

  I just told them that I won't. We have a long email that says a long thing about not touching miniature horses. And yeah, I get it.

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:24:33Speaker 03

  I want to.

• 1:24:34Speaker 01

  Just as long as you're going, not going to touch them.

• 1:24:36Speaker 03

  But I want to.

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  What if someone tells you to touch it?

• 1:24:39Speaker 03

  I will.

• 1:24:45Speaker 03

  A fucking, a second. Well, it's been a great episode.

• 1:24:49Speaker 01

  It's been delightful.

• 1:24:50Speaker 03

  I've really been enjoying it.

• 1:24:51Speaker 01

  I, I'm not worried about the future of society at all.

• 1:24:53Speaker 03

  Nah, no, and I love where we're going, where we're headed. I live. For our autonomous robots to finally get their, live their dreams. And I hope that one day someone builds a robot that laughs at my jokes.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, my, you know what I've actually been working on is, um, something to help with all the, you know. You know, my work with foster dogs and how there's too many dogs out there. So I, I've, I'm trying, I'm developing a spay eye.

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  Program to help, uh, autonomously go into the streets and just cut the dog. Yeah, you make them all into little parkers.

• 1:25:28Speaker 03

  That's a great idea.

• 1:25:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:30Speaker 03

  Let's see. It's not a bad idea.

• 1:25:34Speaker 03

  It could be worse.

• 1:25:35Speaker 01

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• 1:25:37Speaker 03

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• 1:25:38Speaker 01

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• 1:25:39Speaker 03

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• 1:25:43Speaker 01

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• 1:25:45Speaker 03

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• 1:25:53Speaker 01

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• 1:26:18Speaker 01

  The whole second season is so bingeable. It is so incredible. It is honestly my favorite thing I've been a part of creating. Shout out to Eric Lecombe.

• 1:26:28Speaker 03

  So good.

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  Here over at LPNTV. He's a goddamn genius. Henry, you fucking crushed it. Julie was amazing.

• 1:26:35Speaker 03

  She was great.

• 1:26:36Speaker 01

  Amber is unbelievable. All of our judges, like, it was a fucking journey. I'm so happy it's out there. The second season, you don't need to see the first season of Hoopagoo. Watch it. It's a lot of fun. But the second season, we really upped our game and it is truly unbelievable. Youtube.com slash at LPNTV. Fucking binge that shit. The last two episodes are a movie.

• 1:27:00Speaker 03

  It's so good.

• 1:27:01Speaker 01

  It's an hour and a half.

• 1:27:02Speaker 03

  Go check it out.

• 1:27:02Speaker 01

  It's fucking crazy what was made here. I was like, I'm blown away by everybody. Uh, you know, hail LD, even though LD's a fucking cunt.

• 1:27:13Speaker 03

  We're gonna get him now.

• 1:27:14Speaker 01

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• 1:27:28Speaker 03

  Nerd of Mouth.

• 1:27:29Speaker 01

  Is now on Youtube as well. We're putting all of our shit out there for everyone to see our big ol' fat faces. And then the road. Henry and I were in London this weekend. It's sold out. Don't try and come.

• 1:27:41Speaker 03

  Hopefully we can get there.

• 1:27:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, hopefully we can figure out how to get there. Uh, because we're, yeah, no one wants to drive us.

• 1:27:49Speaker 03

  It's super.

• 1:27:49Speaker 01

  Hard. Yeah, to convince someone from Michigan to drive back and forth to Canada for you. Very hard. Yes, but we're doing it. You sold the tickets and we're gonna fuck. We're fucking coming there. Don't worry about it. London, we're gonna be there. We're gonna try and book some more side story shows throughout the year. Crime Wave is still available, but also July, I'm hitting the road hard, man. I'm gonna be in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Newark, New Jersey, New York City, Tulsa with, Tulsa, Oklahoma City with Last Podcast on the Left. Then the very next night, I'm gonna be in Plano, Texas. I got shows in LA, shows in Chicago. Go to eddytunes.com for tickets. I'm gonna release more dates soon, solo dates. Come and see me on the road. I love meeting everyone and having a great time.

• 1:28:34Speaker 03

  We honestly, we can't fucking wait. We love doing our shows and we can't wait to be out there.

• 1:28:38Speaker 01

  Fuck, yeah, everybody.

• 1:28:40Speaker 03

  All right, fuckers. Hail Satan.

• 1:28:42Speaker 01

  Hail Ghana.

• 1:28:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. He'll Ghana.

• 1:28:48Speaker 03

  For soccer. You can wear it now, I think.

• 1:28:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, now I can, right? Cause I'm hail, I'm officially hailing Ghana.

• 1:28:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can wear it Ghana now.

• 1:28:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, fuck stupid ass UK with their goddamn, are they winning? Who knows?

• 1:29:00Speaker 03

  Who cares?

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  Fuck them. They suck. Fucking Ghana all the way. Go to the Polymarket and vote for Ghana.

• 1:29:05Speaker 03

  Where's North Korea?

• 1:29:07Speaker 01

  They're not allowed. They don't invite them.

• 1:29:09Speaker 03

  Where's my jersey? I want a North Korea jersey.

• 1:29:11Speaker 01

  North Korea jersey?

• 1:29:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:13Speaker 01

  Okay. I bet we can make that happen.

• 1:29:16Speaker 03

  Side stories, L P O T L, G O L, com.