Pod Insights Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang "Shivery Delicious" (w/ Nicole Kidman) About this episode Readers, Kayteighs, Publicists, Finalists, and Kyles — what better way to celebrate the 10th anniversary of CULTURE with the one and only Nicole Kidman! From penguins in Antarctica to “Heartbreak feels good in a place like this” — the three get into IT. Matt and Bowen chat with Nicole on yearning, her favorite collaborators like Baz Luhrmann, the MET Gala, cruise love, her most iconic roles, including her iconic Chanel No. 5 ad. Get into it HONEY on this episode of Las Culturistas!
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1:22 Speaker 01 Where?
1:22 Speaker 03 Oh, I see. Wow.
1:24 Speaker 01 Why?
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1:36 Speaker 01 Here we are. Bowen Yang, it's a very special episode.
1:39 Speaker 02 Why is that?
1:40 Speaker 01 Because 10 years ago this week, we started this podcast.
1:45 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
1:46 Speaker 01 Feels silly to me.
1:48 Speaker 02 10 years? Well, I mean, we're not helping with this whole, like, 2016 nostalgia thing going on right now.
1:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, there is a lot of that.
1:58 Speaker 02 Um, I mean, I was gonna ask, like, where were you 10 years ago? But now, we literally can't say.
2:02 Speaker 01 We were in our friend's, um, apartment.
2:05 Speaker 02 Alex Ramsey's apartment.
2:06 Speaker 01 With the mattress in the window to keep out the sound.
2:09 Speaker 02 That was our, that was our soundproofing at the time.
2:12 Speaker 01 And we are now, 10 years later, sitting here with our guests.
2:17 Speaker 02 Look at that. Look at God.
2:18 Speaker 01 And I gotta say, look at God, because-
2:21 Speaker 02 She's with us in the room.
2:22 Speaker 01 She's here. Um, I don't know that we could have booked a better guest for our 10 year anniversary, a podcast about pop culture.
2:31 Speaker 02 Right.
2:32 Speaker 01 You'd think that the 10 year is gonna happen. We probably should get a full blown pop culture icon in here.
2:37 Speaker 02 Yeah. Um, I, I, I did my thing of like, I'm gonna watch, I'm gonna watch a project-
2:45 Speaker 01 I'm gonna go back and revisit the classics.
2:48 Speaker 02 And it's the, it's the sort of decision paralysis thing that happens with, I think, our guest, where I'm sure she's used to this by now, where everyone's like, I loved you in, uh, and then like, they must like, sort of short circuit and then like-
2:59 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm. And what did you pick?
3:01 Speaker 02 So I picked, I was very happy with, um, To Die For and, uh, The Others, which I, and then I watched the Criterion Collection featurette where there's something I wanna, she, she mentioned something that I wanna ask her about, which is that she almost quit because she was like, I can't do this. This is, this is a woman who is awful to her children. Not a spoiler alert, but you know what I mean?
3:24 Speaker 01 Well-
3:25 Speaker 02 Well, it's The Others.
3:27 Speaker 01 If you've seen The Others-
3:28 Speaker 02 If you, if you know, you know.
3:30 Speaker 01 I went for something old, something new.
3:34 Speaker 02 Uh-huh.
3:35 Speaker 01 I went for final, final two episodes of Big Little Lies, season one.
3:38 Speaker 02 Perfect.
3:39 Speaker 01 And I went for Eyes Wide Shut, which I had never seen.
3:42 Speaker 02 Uh-huh.
3:43 Speaker 01 And boy, are there questions as a result of this list of projects. But there are approximately a million roles that our guest has been incredible in.
3:51 Speaker 02 Indelible.
3:52 Speaker 01 Not just as an actress, as a producer, I mean, fashion icon, et cetera. Arguably best performance is the Chanel number five commercial.
4:01 Speaker 02 Oh!
4:03 Speaker 01 Which, yes, this is a podcast that's gonna bring it up.
4:06 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
4:07 Speaker 01 Our 10 year anniversary special, and our guest is the one, the only Nicole Kidman!
4:16 Speaker 04 It was so hard to stay quiet through that.
4:18 Speaker 01 You stayed very stoic.
4:19 Speaker 02 You were very good.
4:19 Speaker 04 Did you see me?
4:21 Speaker 02 You take direction well.
4:21 Speaker 04 I was like, yeah, you told me to shut up.
4:23 Speaker 01 But then when we said Chanel number five commercial, you did, you did jump up.
4:27 Speaker 04 Well, Baz just texted me.
4:28 Speaker 01 Did he?
4:29 Speaker 04 Literally. So you must have been telepathically picking something up.
4:33 Speaker 01 We were just talking about him, actually.
4:34 Speaker 02 We were just talking about, because the way he-
4:35 Speaker 04 Oh, my Bazzy. My Bazzy. We love Bazzy.
4:38 Speaker 01 Wonderful.
4:39 Speaker 04 His nickname for me is Dear One.
4:41 Speaker 02 Dear One.
4:42 Speaker 04 Isn't that a lovely nickname?
4:44 Speaker 01 Has that been for-
4:45 Speaker 04 Always.
4:46 Speaker 01 Since the beginning?
4:47 Speaker 04 Dear One.
4:47 Speaker 02 Dear One.
4:48 Speaker 04 Yeah. So elegant.
4:50 Speaker 02 Same number of syllables as Nicole.
4:53 Speaker 02 But sure.
4:53 Speaker 04 But somehow Dear One is nicer.
4:56 Speaker 02 I can say he has a nickname for me because I met him at an event and his nickname for me is, I kid you not, "You bitch! Bowen, you bitch!" Because-
5:06 Speaker 01 It's how he thinks he's gonna book the podcast.
5:07 Speaker 02 He wants to come on the podcast.
5:09 Speaker 04 You gotta have him on the podcast.
5:10 Speaker 01 Of course we do.
5:11 Speaker 02 Of course we do.
5:11 Speaker 01 We're just nagging him.
5:14 Speaker 02 This is what he likes. He is, um, he's a bit, oh, because he, he, he sent me the loveliest email after Ariana Grande and I did this, um, Moulin Rouge sketch and-
5:24 Speaker 04 You guy.
5:25 Speaker 02 No, no, but it was, I, it was kind of the best thing, best outcome possible was to like, be able to like be in conversation with him. Anyway, I mean-
5:35 Speaker 04 Well, he's, he's with it. I mean, all you wanna do is be the center of his universe. So-
5:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:39 Speaker 04 When you drop from that spot, it's very painful.
5:42 Speaker 02 Oh, my gosh.
5:44 Speaker 01 When you're in his orbit, it's something else.
5:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:48 Speaker 02 You know?
5:48 Speaker 01 Yeah. I have to say, I think Moulin Rouge was like, we ask that question a lot, like, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? And Moulin Rouge came out in 2000, so it was just around the time when we were starting to like, be like, "I'm gonna watch a movie that my parents don't know I'm gonna watch." And my mother would see the trailer for Moulin Rouge and she would say, "That looks racy. That looks very racy." And I was like, I went into fifth grade and I told my teacher, "My mom says Moulin Rouge looks racy."
6:16 Speaker 04 And it's not racy.
6:18 Speaker 01 Well, you know, it might be a little racy. Well, that's sort of about what it's about, but then you watch it-
6:22 Speaker 04 Well, it is about, yeah, a cortisone.
6:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's about a cortisone.
6:26 Speaker 02 A cortisone and consumption.
6:28 Speaker 04 That's right.
6:28 Speaker 02 The consumption.
6:29 Speaker 01 Racy topics. The greatest consumption death put on celluloid, I think.
6:37 Speaker 01 Can we talk about it?
6:40 Speaker 02 Okay, and even people on the team are like.
6:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, like gagged. Just the consumption of it all.
6:47 Speaker 04 And then I get carried though in Feathers, Pink Feathers, come on.
6:50 Speaker 02 Yes.
6:51 Speaker 04 I get to fly on a trapeze in sequins.
6:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:54 Speaker 04 With men underneath me with top hats.
6:56 Speaker 01 Pretty good.
6:57 Speaker 04 Badass.
6:58 Speaker 02 Badass.
6:58 Speaker 04 And then I get to die and be held by Ewan McGregor singing to me and then, but I also get to get carried in Pink Feathers, right?
7:09 Speaker 02 The Pink Feathers seem to be.
7:10 Speaker 04 Oh, that's really lovely.
7:12 Speaker 01 A lot of wish fulfillment there.
7:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was just so exquisite.
7:16 Speaker 01 And also like the soundtrack that was birthed from Moulin Rouge, I think that that doesn't get enough respect to put on its name because all bangers on that soundtrack.
7:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, he's, he's just a music whiz. And so, I mean, Baz is classically built in terms of all his knowledge and the way in which he's been trained. And then he talk about culture and pop culture, then he's able to enter the zeitgeist though. But he's got all his education and classical training, kind of the best of the best. Right?
7:53 Speaker 02 He's a foun.
7:53 Speaker 04 Who else do we want to talk about?
7:55 Speaker 01 We had a long list, but you mostly.
7:57 Speaker 02 It's gonna be you. I'm gonna tie it back to you because.
7:59 Speaker 04 Just throw someone at me and I'll answer anything.
8:01 Speaker 02 Nicole Kidman, how about that? Because I feel like.
8:04 Speaker 04 Not me, I'm boring.
8:05 Speaker 01 You're here.
8:06 Speaker 02 Come on, the reason why, I think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career is because.
8:15 Speaker 04 Random career. It's all so random.
8:17 Speaker 01 But random in the best way, like I love that we never know what we're gonna get from you.
8:21 Speaker 04 It is random.
8:23 Speaker 02 Scarpett, a March 11th on Prime.
8:25 Speaker 01 Today.
8:26 Speaker 02 Today. I think it's.
8:28 Speaker 04 All right, binge. I know you're not meant to binge things, but binge.
8:32 Speaker 01 You think it's a binger?
8:33 Speaker 04 I, I think this is a binger.
8:35 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:35 Speaker 04 If you like binging.
8:37 Speaker 01 Love.
8:37 Speaker 04 I like binging.
8:38 Speaker 01 Me too.
8:39 Speaker 04 It comes, you know, it's not healthy, but I love it.
8:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:42 Speaker 01 Take it all at once.
8:44 Speaker 04 Huh? Yeah, just watch it.
8:45 Speaker 02 Okay.
8:46 Speaker 04 Watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it and done.
8:48 Speaker 01 Perfect couple I binged. Netflix made that easy.
8:51 Speaker 04 Right?
8:51 Speaker 02 Right.
8:52 Speaker 04 Okay, well, hopefully this makes it easy. Jamie Lee and I.
8:56 Speaker 02 Jamie Lee, Ariana, Bobby Kanaevai.
9:00 Speaker 04 And he just, he is, um, creme de la creme.
9:04 Speaker 01 I had a crush on him for years, Bobby Kanaevai.
9:07 Speaker 04 You and everyone else.
9:08 Speaker 01 And everyone else. Well, he was famously, he holds a place in gay culture because he was Will's boyfriend on Will and Grace.
9:15 Speaker 04 Yes.
9:16 Speaker 01 He was like the tough talker. I think he was a firefighter, right? Or was he a cop? He was one of those boy jobs.
9:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:23 Speaker 01 Yeah.
9:23 Speaker 04 He's not aged at all.
9:25 Speaker 02 No, right. Look, some people, some people have it.
9:28 Speaker 04 Rose Byrne is very lucky.
9:30 Speaker 01 Oh, she's the best. We were watching clips of her and Kristen Wiig going back and forth in an outtake grill in Bridesmaids right before you walked in.
9:37 Speaker 04 I was just talking about that. That is my daughter and I, we watch Bridesmaids when we're feeling down, whenever we need a lift.
9:44 Speaker 01 Yeah.
9:44 Speaker 04 We watch it, we recite it, we act it out, and we do that in the kitchen, and that is our go to saving, that's our savior film.
9:52 Speaker 02 That's your savior film?
9:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, to pull us out of a funk.
9:55 Speaker 02 Of course.
9:56 Speaker 01 Hundred percent.
9:57 Speaker 02 There's an underappreciated, that's a new vocal stim for me, which is a Rose Byrne line in that, which is after like the toast off. Rose Byrne goes, dessert wine is out. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's such a funny little like seasoning.
10:13 Speaker 01 There's also, we were blown away by like the patronizing way she looks at Kristen Wiig whenever she's trying to say like an accomplishment of hers, just like the wide, wide open like, mm hmm, wow.
10:23 Speaker 04 You're a train wreck. Get the hook.
10:26 Speaker 02 Get the hook. Exactly. Perfect. Oh, but I just, okay.
10:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:30 Speaker 02 I was gonna, I was gonna, I was gonna pay you the compliment and then I was gonna transition into.
10:33 Speaker 04 I'll take it back.
10:34 Speaker 02 No way.
10:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, get the hook.
10:37 Speaker 02 Do you get this? Do people say that you don't, do you receive a compliment well?
10:41 Speaker 04 I'm trying to. It's not an Australian attribute. Like, we always have to, yeah. Humility is very important, but also it's just hard to take compliments because the last thing you want is to be seen as big headed, right?
10:54 Speaker 01 Right.
10:55 Speaker 02 Right, of course.
10:56 Speaker 04 You have to always come in under.
10:58 Speaker 02 So.
10:58 Speaker 04 But I'm learning to take the strokes.
11:00 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:00 Speaker 04 Because it feels good.
11:02 Speaker 01 I mean, you worked hard.
11:03 Speaker 04 I'm begging.
11:04 Speaker 02 You worked hard for it.
11:05 Speaker 04 Give me something. Give me a, give me a crumb.
11:08 Speaker 02 We do this too much, some might say, is that we fawn too much, which we will, we'll keep to a minimum. But I, I think the reason why, because you're talking about Baz being so plugged into the culture, I feel like you have that same sense too of just knowing when something, uh, is. A worthwhile, not even worthwhile, it's just a risk period, right? I feel like this randomness that you're talking about is just risk and.
11:33 Speaker 04 It's curiosity.
11:35 Speaker 02 Okay.
11:35 Speaker 04 It's desire, it's um, and it's always just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff. That would be the, the, the way in which I approach things, but I'm, I wanna have fun.
11:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:50 Speaker 04 I grew up in a family that had a slight bohemian quality to it, so, but it was a very intellectual family. So there was, I was taken to see all sorts of theater and opera and art. I was raised on, on culture and, and my mother loved fashion. My grandmother could sew and knit and embroider. And they played piano and spoke French and all those things that you go, oh, okay, teach me. But they were socially conscious and sort of just an interesting group of people to have been born into.
12:26 Speaker 02 Hmm, yeah.
12:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, and to be launched into the world by.
12:29 Speaker 02 So things that were fascinating were around you.
12:33 Speaker 04 There weren't boundaries, there were.
12:35 Speaker 02 Right.
12:35 Speaker 04 In terms of sometimes my mother would have a strict moral code and then at other times it'd be like, huh? But there was a huge, there wasn't a lot of judgment. There was, um, there, the, the barriers were taken away and you could express all sorts of thoughts and ideas. In terms of philosophy or secrets or, and some of my greatest moments were curled up in my mom's bed. Sort of us both sharing, um, human, just humanness and ideas. And I nursed her through cancer and so I saw all of that. I saw her losing her hair. I saw a 50 year marriage and the way that unfurled as it went along with truth and honesty.
13:22 Speaker 04 Um, kind of interesting, right?
13:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
13:24 Speaker 04 And she gave me insight into what it was to be, um, just to be alive.
13:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
13:33 Speaker 04 And that, and she, I could ask her anything and my dad as well.
13:37 Speaker 01 Oh.
13:38 Speaker 04 So that's a really good basis to start life from, right?
13:41 Speaker 01 One hundred percent. I, but I'm just.
13:44 Speaker 04 Sorry to get serious.
13:45 Speaker 01 No, no, no.
13:45 Speaker 04 What? This is meant to be funny.
13:48 Speaker 01 No, but literally, like, sometimes I watch your movies and I think, when she got the script for this, like, there's no way to, to really see it. Like Moulin Rouge, for example, like, the whole first half hour of Moulin Rouge, it moves so fast.
14:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:01 Speaker 01 And it is so crazy, like, the scene where you're changing under the, in the tent with Jim Broadbent, and you're sort of like trying on your different personas and stuff. It's gotta be impossible to see, but I guess then for you, that's just like, thinking and trusting of the director, because I feel like that drives you a lot, right?
14:17 Speaker 04 Totally.
14:18 Speaker 01 Director.
14:19 Speaker 04 And because he and Catherine Martin, C M, the two of them, they, um, had a beautiful big house that they would create in and that's where we would rehearse. And there was very much a bohemian quality to the way they, they create their art. And so when you're brought into that, you spend six weeks workshopping. Uh, but prior to that, I'd done a photo shoot for Vogue with them. And I'd seen their work growing up in Australia and watched them morph into who they were. And they were just like these crazy talented, I mean, Baz was an actor.
14:57 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
14:58 Speaker 04 You know, and a really good actor.
14:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, I bet.
15:00 Speaker 04 Um, he's, he, he's.
15:02 Speaker 01 This is a stone come fox.
15:03 Speaker 04 Winter, wi- um, Winter of Our Dreams with Judy Davis, and he's fantastic in it. He plays a junkie.
15:10 Speaker 01 Oh, wow.
15:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, so there's a tidbit for you.
15:12 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:13 Speaker 04 Go find that.
15:14 Speaker 01 I will find that.
15:14 Speaker 02 Winter, what is it?
15:15 Speaker 04 Winter of Our Dreams.
15:16 Speaker 02 Winter of Our Dreams.
15:17 Speaker 04 Judy Davis, one of the greats.
15:19 Speaker 01 The best.
15:19 Speaker 04 Oh, my God.
15:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:21 Speaker 04 So, yeah. And then C M and Baz went to NIDA, which is our, um, National Institute of Dramatic Arts.
15:27 Speaker 01 Yes.
15:28 Speaker 04 So.
15:28 Speaker 02 I'm getting, uh, this bohemian sort of, no, no, no. I, there's a bohemian element here to the way that you, uh, were raised. And I think also, I'm just gonna pick up on the opera piece.
15:41 Speaker 04 Opera.
15:42 Speaker 02 Because I think that I'm gonna like have those two helices come together in, in, in terms of like it. Describing like the Nicole Kidman of, which is like, it's operatic, but it is also so like, artfully diverse, for lack of a better term, right? Because it's like, I think in you talking about the others, it's like you were like, this is Medea, this is, this is classic Greek Euripides, but it's also, it's this operatic kind of thing. But I think that applies to a lot of your roles.
16:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:13 Speaker 02 Would you agree?
16:13 Speaker 04 I, well, I, I, I think what opera gives you is it gives you pathos and it gives you big emotion. And, um, and because I was taken to the opera all the time, and I would sit there with my dad and my mom and we would cry. I mean, and my mother would explain because she could speak Italian, she could speak French. So she would explain the stories and the stories are, I mean, they're fantastic. In the same way that Shakespeare, the Greeks, and I grew up reading Russian literature. I was obsessed with the Russians.
16:50 Speaker 02 Really?
16:50 Speaker 04 Yes.
16:51 Speaker 02 How did you come to be obsessed with that? Just?
16:53 Speaker 04 Because I had one of those lists of the hundred books you're meant to read.
16:57 Speaker 02 Oh, okay, yeah.
16:58 Speaker 04 But I started on Dostoevsky and then I went, oh, hold on. And then I just kept going on Dostoevsky and then I moved over to Tolstoy. And then before you know it, I'm obsessed with the Russians.
17:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:10 Speaker 04 And I went to St. Petersburg, actually, and saw all of the places that Tolstoy had built War and Peace around and people pointed out where, you know, Prince Andre, all of it. And I was like, what?
17:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:23 Speaker 04 So that was kind of the beginning of my artistic basis is the Russians. And then I moved over into the Brontes.
17:33 Speaker 02 Of course.
17:34 Speaker 04 Which give you the yearning.
17:36 Speaker 02 Yes, it certainly does.
17:37 Speaker 04 I'm, I'm on a moor. I'm living on the moors and I cannot.
17:40 Speaker 02 Have you seen Wuthering Heights?
17:42 Speaker 04 Yes.
17:42 Speaker 02 I loved it.
17:43 Speaker 04 I loved it. And, um, but I've read Wuthering Heights six times.
17:48 Speaker 02 Right, yeah.
17:49 Speaker 04 And I love Heathcliff.
17:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:52 Speaker 04 So I just, you know, and that state of yearning that the Brontes existed in.
17:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:58 Speaker 04 That probably was my state as a teenager and probably continues on now.
18:02 Speaker 01 Came at the right time.
18:04 Speaker 04 It's the one of the most underrated states of being.
18:06 Speaker 01 Yearning. I would agree because it is so, it's so painful, like when you're in it, but then you, you can only be in it for a cer- tell me if you think this is true. Like, I'll never yearn like I did when I was like fifteen to twenty-five, like, and you don't realize that you're not gonna feel that feeling as intensely anymore.
18:28 Speaker 04 Oh, I feel it.
18:29 Speaker 01 Really?
18:29 Speaker 04 I still, yeah.
18:30 Speaker 01 You still do?
18:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm in a state of yearning now.
18:33 Speaker 01 You are? And it can be towards anything or anyone.
18:35 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
18:36 Speaker 01 Okay.
18:37 Speaker 04 But it keeps you alive.
18:38 Speaker 01 Hmm.
18:39 Speaker 04 Keeps you moving forward.
18:41 Speaker 01 Okay, I gotta yearn again.
18:42 Speaker 04 Come on.
18:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
18:43 Speaker 04 Let's bring back the yearn.
18:45 Speaker 01 I know, I'm trying to feel like, I guess, I guess I was specifically thinking about it in terms of like,
18:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, the teenage.
18:51 Speaker 01 Romantic desire, you know what I'm saying?
18:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:53 Speaker 01 Especially being closeted, it's like, all you do is yearn. Yes. Yeah.
18:57 Speaker 04 The tingles.
18:58 Speaker 01 I know.
18:59 Speaker 04 Come on, bring on the tingles. Shivery delicious. I had a line once in this film called Flirting, um, where I play a small, um, role, but I just remember the, um, the description of being shivery delicious.
19:14 Speaker 01 Shivery delicious. Oh, that's really good. Shivery delicious is title of that. Title of that. That's actually the title of this episode.
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20:28 Speaker 01 Do you have like a favorite line of dialogue you've had?
20:32 Speaker 04 I have, I mean, I've worked with the greatest writers.
20:34 Speaker 01 You truly have.
20:36 Speaker 04 I think The Hours gave me, yeah, when you're, David Hare wrote, um, just, just exquisite dialogue. Inspired by Virginia Woolf, from Michael Cunningham, and then directed by Stephen Daldry. But that, that screenplay was, was just beautiful and to be able to do it justice.
21:02 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:03 Speaker 04 That, that monologue in The Hours.
21:05 Speaker 01 At the train station?
21:06 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. That was like to, and we rigorously worked that. And I have to call out the praises of Stephen Delane in that because that's so much what acting is.
21:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:18 Speaker 04 There's two of you in that scene.
21:20 Speaker 01 Yeah.
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25:26 Speaker 01 Will you direct? Because you speak like a director.
25:31 Speaker 04 I do.
25:32 Speaker 01 Yeah, because I feel like you're like really working in like the, obviously, this is you being a genius actress, but like, but what I'm saying is like, you, I think would be an actor's dream as a director, because no one understands it better than you.
25:45 Speaker 04 Well, I've always, I mean, you never say never to anything, because whenever I do that, that's a disaster. And then you go, oh, okay, well, I changed my mind.
25:54 Speaker 01 Yeah. True that to do.
25:56 Speaker 04 My prerogative. But I love being an actor.
25:59 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:00 Speaker 02 Right.
26:00 Speaker 04 I actually love being in the hands of a great director and a great writer. And I love being there to contribute, but to lead it, that's very difficult.
26:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:10 Speaker 04 That's decision-making. That is unfaltering in your vision, whereas I see all ways. So I need, okay, this is what we're doing.
26:22 Speaker 01 Too bohemian to direct.
26:26 Speaker 02 You want to be amenable to all kinds of outcomes.
26:28 Speaker 04 I'm interested.
26:29 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:30 Speaker 04 I'm just interested.
26:32 Speaker 02 That's beautiful.
26:33 Speaker 04 And so I hope I always stay interested. I love asking questions more than having questions asked.
26:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, so I have a question then, just because I have to tell you again, just looping back to those things that you remember from pivotal moments in your life. I think that every queer person our age probably remembers walking into a Blockbuster, and which was the video rental store where you can rent VHSs, and walking over to the Batman aisle and seeing Dr. Chase Meridian on the cover of the Batman Forever VHS.
27:11 Speaker 02 A veil of hair.
27:12 Speaker 01 The Veronica Lake hair. I found out something about myself seeing that picture of you on there.
27:19 Speaker 04 Did you?
27:19 Speaker 01 I was like, I need to know everything. And I rented it again and again and again, and I watched it. And that movie, I have to say, and Batman and Robin.
27:30 Speaker 02 Camp classics.
27:31 Speaker 01 Underrated camp classics, masterpieces.
27:33 Speaker 04 Yeah, Joel Schumacher.
27:34 Speaker 01 Yes.
27:34 Speaker 04 That was, yeah, we created her together, that hair, everything. And he was like, here she is, here's Dr. Chase.
27:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:43 Speaker 01 And he probably felt the same way we did walking into a Blockbuster when you walked out like, it's my dream.
27:47 Speaker 04 My whole thing was, I'm not pretty enough.
27:49 Speaker 01 Come on.
27:50 Speaker 04 No, truly. I really felt when I was doing that, that I was not pretty enough.
27:54 Speaker 02 What was the ideal, what were you trying to, what were you trying to?
27:57 Speaker 04 Veronica Lake.
27:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, I guess.
27:59 Speaker 04 But I mean, also, just that sort of, the dream, the dream blonde, right? And I did not feel like that. I've never felt like that, so. But that's the beauty of acting, is you can pretend, create, become, right?
28:15 Speaker 02 Yes.
28:15 Speaker 04 Which is what we love.
28:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, you can put on a wig, you can suddenly put on red lipstick, and you can dress differently and put heels on, and suddenly you are kind of
28:27 Speaker 01 Your Dr. Chase.
28:28 Speaker 04 What you would love to be. And then it all comes off again and you're back. But it's so great being able to step into that. I mean, the same with so many different characters.
28:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:38 Speaker 04 But a lot of people also cite the Chanel number five commercial.
28:41 Speaker 01 Oh, it's.
28:42 Speaker 04 So they always say to me, that was, I was.
28:46 Speaker 01 I'll never. When did I wake?
28:50 Speaker 01 Into this dream? I must have been the only person. In the world who didn't know who she was.
28:57 Speaker 02 You have it.
28:58 Speaker 04 Are you kidding?
28:59 Speaker 01 No, it was on repeat. It's my favorite movie. The Chanel number five commercial was starring you and Rodrigo Santoro, directed by Baz Luhrmann is my favorite film.
29:10 Speaker 02 Come on.
29:11 Speaker 04 And, and that pink dress.
29:13 Speaker 01 Oh, everything about it.
29:16 Speaker 04 Running down the street, but that's that's, that's dreams and that's CM too. And they can just create that. That's why the pink feathers, the pink dress.
29:23 Speaker 01 I'm a dancer. I love to dance.
29:27 Speaker 04 Okay, okay.
29:29 Speaker 02 That's too much for you.
29:30 Speaker 01 It is the best. And it was, it's like, I remember being like, can I get this perfume?
29:36 Speaker 04 But no one had ever done that sort of film. I remember Karl Lagerfeld being like, I love this. He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a huge thing for Karl, who was just like, chic personified, right?
29:48 Speaker 02 Of course.
29:49 Speaker 04 And, and it was like, okay, but they spent an enormous amount of money on that.
29:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, it can't have been cheap.
29:56 Speaker 04 They didn't, they didn't go cheap, but why go cheap when you don't have to and you can create something iconic like that?
30:03 Speaker 01 We remember it all those years later.
30:05 Speaker 04 I'm so glad they didn't skimp.
30:06 Speaker 01 No, I love like a big ass commercial that at the last second you find out is about something that had nothing to do with it.
30:14 Speaker 04 With this story.
30:15 Speaker 01 Loved it.
30:16 Speaker 02 It's perfect. It's like you don't like, it's how it should be. It's because at that point, it's like you're not being duped into buying something. You're just in the world of.
30:25 Speaker 01 You've already bought it.
30:26 Speaker 02 You've already bought it because you're in the world of the thing.
30:29 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:29 Speaker 02 But can I ask on the acting, no, on this love of acting, I was watching this feature, uh, this featurette on the others for the Criterion Collection, which was, uh,
30:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
30:39 Speaker 02 It entered that a couple of years ago, but.
30:41 Speaker 01 Congrats.
30:42 Speaker 02 Congrats, of course.
30:43 Speaker 01 Huge.
30:43 Speaker 02 Um, but you were saying that you almost said no.
30:47 Speaker 04 No, I, I said yes, and then I said no.
30:50 Speaker 02 But that you also, that this is your usual process, that you, you kind of said that this is like something that happens, not a lot, but it's.
30:55 Speaker 04 I try not to do it now because it's incredibly frustrating and irritating for people.
30:59 Speaker 02 But it's.
31:00 Speaker 01 For production, for the line producer.
31:02 Speaker 04 For everybody, they're like, what?
31:05 Speaker 02 But forget other people. It's like, because I think you were acknowledging it as part of your process, right? Like, oh, for anything that is kind of maybe scaring you a little bit, like that is part of how you approach it. Like, you're saying you don't do it anymore now, but like, what was it?
31:18 Speaker 04 No, I still do it.
31:19 Speaker 02 Okay, great.
31:19 Speaker 04 I just do it less.
31:20 Speaker 01 You're aware. Great, great.
31:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, you know, the first step to healing is awareness.
31:25 Speaker 02 Yes.
31:27 Speaker 04 So I'm on the road.
31:29 Speaker 02 You're on the road. But can you tell the, like, do you understand that now as a thing of like, this is just something about going through it?
31:36 Speaker 04 Well, that particularly was, I was making Moulin Rouge when I agreed to do it. So I was a teen.
31:43 Speaker 02 Yes.
31:44 Speaker 04 When I read Grace, which is, you know, the others, the character in the others. So I had not delved psychologically into her because I'd accepted in a different state of being. That being said.
32:00 Speaker 02 Got it.
32:01 Speaker 04 I then arrive over there and I'm like, oh my God, I've got to now start prepping this woman, who kills her children.
32:10 Speaker 01 Yeah, so different.
32:11 Speaker 04 No, I don't want to do this.
32:12 Speaker 02 Right, right.
32:12 Speaker 04 I'm like, I don't want to do this. I do not want to kill the children. So then you go back to, is it killing the children or is it saving the children? So as soon as I could shift into, oh, I'm saving the children, even though that is so insane and crazy, it was choosing to save them from terrible pain. Then I could motivate into the role.
32:40 Speaker 01 Right.
32:41 Speaker 04 Does that make sense?
32:42 Speaker 02 It makes sense. And was that something you found with Alejandro? Or is that something that you?
32:45 Speaker 04 And with the acting coach I work with and the way in which my whole, just my nervous system and the way in which I approach something, I have to feel it. If I don't feel it, I'm going to be faking it and then I'm no good. So I have to somehow find this weird state of being that keeps it real, even though I'm still existing in life with my feet on the ground.
33:09 Speaker 01 You're indicating your stomach there.
33:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, because it comes from in here.
33:12 Speaker 01 Comes from like.
33:12 Speaker 04 It's all body work.
33:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, the emotions are in your body. So where do you find them? Yeah.
33:19 Speaker 01 That's really, I guess that's a really good thing to remember too, is if your body is, if your body is telling your brain something, that probably means more than you know.
33:29 Speaker 04 Well, you know, a lot of times you'll go, um, especially with trauma and stuff, where do you feel it in your body? And so it's a really great way to approach a character. Where do you feel them in your body?
33:39 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's interesting.
33:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens? Is it in, in the gut? Is it in the groin? Is it in, where is it?
33:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:48 Speaker 04 And let's start from there. I sound kinda crazy.
33:51 Speaker 01 No. No, but you don't at all. Like, I feel like that, that is sort of an answer to my question of like, what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts? Because, for example, something like Destroyer, or like The Paperboy, it's like,
34:07 Speaker 04 Right.
34:07 Speaker 01 you'd read these things and be like, huh? But then the, the huh of it sort of is a guttural instinct. And so it's not, oh, I don't feel comfortable with that, so I, I'm gonna say no to it. It's, I feel uncomfortable with that. Let me listen to that.
34:24 Speaker 04 Hmm. And Charlotte Blesse in The Paperboy, I mean, that was just, she's all like, she's sex. She's wild. She's all body. She's all like, she's, you know, and I wanted to go, and we were shooting down in there in, in Louisiana, in, in the heat.
34:42 Speaker 01 Truly.
34:43 Speaker 04 And it's swampy noir. And that's kinda great to go and do some, with Lee Daniels, do swampy noir.
34:50 Speaker 01 And Zac Efron, not bad.
34:51 Speaker 04 Yeah, Dancing in the Rain.
34:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, iconic.
34:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, and Sitting Out in Front of the Prism with my feet up on the dashboard and it's just kinda like, yeah. She's, she's, she's a cat.
35:03 Speaker 01 She's wild. And then you get to be wild. Wild in the Louisiana swamps.
35:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, they always say, live a normal life, and then in your imaginary life, you can do whatever you want.
35:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's the coolest, that's the coolest thing. Part of your normal.
35:15 Speaker 04 So I'm very normal.
35:16 Speaker 02 Yes. Well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica.
35:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, there's a not with.
35:23 Speaker 01 Connected here.
35:24 Speaker 02 We're connected.
35:25 Speaker 04 I can't believe we both did.
35:25 Speaker 01 You just missed each other.
35:27 Speaker 02 We just missed each, we were on the same, so everyone, Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at different times.
35:34 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
35:34 Speaker 02 So.
35:34 Speaker 04 I went before you.
35:36 Speaker 02 You went before me. And. People on the ship, people, first of all, can we just shout out the loveliest crew on Silver Sea Silver Cloud?
35:46 Speaker 04 Oh my gosh, right? The loveliest, loveliest people.
35:50 Speaker 02 Yeah. And it just felt like this wonderful, like, well, our boat was.
35:54 Speaker 04 Tell me your story.
35:56 Speaker 02 Okay.
35:56 Speaker 04 How'd you end up in Antarctica? Who were you with? And why did you go?
36:00 Speaker 02 Okay. And then, and then would love to hear your version as well, of course, obviously.
36:06 Speaker 02 I just got back yesterday.
36:07 Speaker 04 Yesterday?
36:08 Speaker 02 Yesterday.
36:09 Speaker 04 Yesterday, so it's all so present.
36:11 Speaker 02 I woke up this morning still feeling the sway of Drake, of the Drake Passage. Like, my brain is still used to, like, being rocked by the, by the, by the current, so.
36:22 Speaker 04 By the big current.
36:23 Speaker 02 By the big current. So my, it's my mom.
36:26 Speaker 04 And the smell of penguins?
36:28 Speaker 02 And the smell of penguin shit.
36:29 Speaker 04 Eee, that, that's not the most alluring smell.
36:33 Speaker 01 It really breaks the majesty of the penguins.
36:36 Speaker 04 The penguins are divine, Gen 2 penguins.
36:38 Speaker 02 Gen 2 chin strap.
36:39 Speaker 04 Oh, we love them.
36:41 Speaker 02 We love.
36:41 Speaker 04 Just not their diarrhea.
36:44 Speaker 02 Their, their excretion.
36:46 Speaker 01 You hate it.
36:47 Speaker 02 And, and what makes you so confident in the diarrhea?
36:49 Speaker 04 Did you go hiking on diarrhea island? That's what I called it.
36:52 Speaker 02 What a question.
36:53 Speaker 01 Hiking on diarrhea island?
36:54 Speaker 04 That was diarrhea island. Yeah. I was like, I'm gonna just stay down here. I don't need to see those chicks, those penguin chicks.
37:02 Speaker 02 Who was calling it diarrhea island?
37:03 Speaker 01 Nicole was.
37:04 Speaker 04 And our whole family.
37:05 Speaker 01 Yeah.
37:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, cuz it was diarrhea, I saw no ice.
37:09 Speaker 01 Yeah.
37:09 Speaker 04 Just diarrhea.
37:12 Speaker 04 Oh, you missed that. Their stomachs must not have been upset that day.
37:15 Speaker 02 No, no, they were upset.
37:16 Speaker 01 He didn't bring this up.
37:17 Speaker 02 Well, no, be.
37:18 Speaker 04 No, but this is, this is just a sidebar. Antarctica is gorgeous.
37:22 Speaker 02 We don't have to, no, we don't have to make it, let's make this the main bar. This is, diarrhea island is the, the topic of the rest of the episode.
37:31 Speaker 04 We're never gonna go to diarrhea island.
37:33 Speaker 01 I already was never gonna go to Antarctica. It's, I don't think it's for me.
37:37 Speaker 04 If this is a small, little section where there was a few penguins that had upset stomachs.
37:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
37:43 Speaker 04 But beyond that.
37:44 Speaker 01 Those poor guys.
37:46 Speaker 02 They're molting.
37:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:49 Speaker 02 There's, there's, they're, they're, they're just in a moment of just, like, letting it all go.
37:52 Speaker 04 You're in shock that I said it.
37:53 Speaker 01 I'm hooked on it.
37:55 Speaker 02 I just, just, just to hear, just to be asked by you, how did you go hiking on diarrhea island?
38:00 Speaker 01 On diarrhea island.
38:01 Speaker 02 Diarrhea or island?
38:04 Speaker 04 But back to
38:05 Speaker 01 Back to
38:06 Speaker 04 The glorious, glorious Antarctica. And the sea lions and the kayaking and the beautiful.
38:11 Speaker 01 He's obsessed with sea lions.
38:12 Speaker 02 We kayaked.
38:13 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. Is that not the greatest thing in the world?
38:15 Speaker 02 It was, I was.
38:17 Speaker 04 The silence?
38:18 Speaker 02 The silence.
38:19 Speaker 01 Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, it must be the most.
38:21 Speaker 04 No, it is spectacular there.
38:23 Speaker 02 Truly untouched.
38:25 Speaker 04 And the silence is unrivaled. I've, I mean, there is, you hear.
38:29 Speaker 02 Nothing.
38:30 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:31 Speaker 04 And the most peace that you, I mean, it truly is. And I meditated on the kayak.
38:36 Speaker 02 Oh.
38:37 Speaker 04 For like five minutes and just went, I think this is the happiest I've ever been.
38:43 Speaker 01 Now, is that because of the quiet?
38:46 Speaker 04 I think it's just everything that surrounds you there. And there, there, it's timeless.
38:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:53 Speaker 04 And then you're aware of the fragility of everything.
38:57 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:57 Speaker 02 Well, because you're aware of, because, because you're looking out and it's like, this is untouched, un- uncorrupted by man. And you realize how much of our surroundings and how much of our like interactions and how much of our psychic being is ruined by man. You know what I mean?
39:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:20 Speaker 02 It's like, it feels like you're the most in touch with like nature as, as you ever have been.
39:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:27 Speaker 02 I felt that exact way in kayaking. Um, the seals were, were, were abundant. We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes and people were like, uh-oh. And I'm like, no, I think that's normal.
39:40 Speaker 01 They sent a video of it. I'm like, is that normal?
39:42 Speaker 02 You hear the sound. It's a, it's a thunderous sound and it happened.
39:44 Speaker 01 Crazy.
39:45 Speaker 02 Yeah. Um, no, but we, so we had to go to Punta Arenas.
39:49 Speaker 04 Yes, been there.
39:50 Speaker 02 Been there. And we were held for three days. They were about to call.
39:53 Speaker 04 Because of the weather.
39:53 Speaker 02 Because of the weather. So they had to, we were like, so if they, if they pushed our trip back by three days, they canceled the entire cruise. So we were on day three. It was just, it was like Groundhog's Day in like Punta Arenas, this lovely Chilean town.
40:07 Speaker 04 So nice. Also, yeah, so warm, so friendly.
40:11 Speaker 02 So friendly, great food. And then.
40:13 Speaker 04 Great coffee.
40:14 Speaker 02 Great coffee. Great sea bass. Anyway.
40:18 Speaker 01 And now I'm coming around.
40:19 Speaker 02 And we're coming around.
40:21 Speaker 04 Did you not want to go?
40:22 Speaker 01 I really didn't. It was gonna be my, I don't think so.
40:24 Speaker 04 You gotta go. All I can say is you gotta go.
40:26 Speaker 02 You gotta go.
40:26 Speaker 04 But you go with people that are very, very, like, the cruise we went on, Silver Seas, you have to clean everything. I mean, they are so ecologically minded. You have to be so careful.
40:37 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:38 Speaker 04 Because you can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything into, into that continent.
40:44 Speaker 02 Yes. You, you can't even, they won't let you kneel. Like, they won't let you crouch down. Like, they don't want-
40:50 Speaker 04 Wipe, wipe, everything. Oh, yeah, it's very regimented, very, very sterile and clean.
40:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:55 Speaker 01 Yeah.
40:56 Speaker 04 Right?
40:56 Speaker 02 Exactly.
40:57 Speaker 04 Listen to us.
40:57 Speaker 01 Listen to us. No, I mean, we're, we're- This is an ad for Antarctica.
41:01 Speaker 04 No, well, it's, it's kind of like-
41:04 Speaker 02 It's a thing. People, like-
41:05 Speaker 04 It's a thing.
41:05 Speaker 02 People are going.
41:06 Speaker 04 You're, yeah, and it's also, there's still very few people that have been, right?
41:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
41:10 Speaker 04 What is the percentage? It's very low.
41:12 Speaker 02 My mom was saying it's like-
41:14 Speaker 04 One percent?
41:15 Speaker 02 One percent, which is not, which makes it, gives it a bad rap. It's like, it's not one percenters. Clearly, it was people being like-
41:21 Speaker 04 It's adventurers who go there.
41:22 Speaker 02 Yes.
41:23 Speaker 04 And you're an adventurer.
41:25 Speaker 02 Well-
41:25 Speaker 01 It was his parents' dream to go. His mother's dream to go.
41:28 Speaker 04 Oh, you went with your parents?
41:30 Speaker 01 Yes.
41:30 Speaker 02 I was with my parents. And it was like-
41:32 Speaker 04 Good son.
41:36 Speaker 02 I loved it.
41:36 Speaker 04 Good son.
41:37 Speaker 02 No, it was great.
41:38 Speaker 04 Yes, you didn't want to go, but you went.
41:40 Speaker 01 No, I wanted to.
41:42 Speaker 02 I was genuinely excited.
41:43 Speaker 04 Just say, yes, I'm a good son.
41:44 Speaker 01 I'm a good- You have six continents now, right?
41:47 Speaker 02 Ah, yes, I'm, I'm on six.
41:48 Speaker 04 You haven't, you haven't done seven?
41:50 Speaker 02 I haven't done seven. So I was stolen valor when I held up the-
41:52 Speaker 04 Which continent have you not done?
41:53 Speaker 02 I am dying to go to Africa.
41:55 Speaker 04 Right.
41:56 Speaker 02 And still haven't gone.
41:56 Speaker 04 There you go.
41:57 Speaker 01 I need Africa and Antarctica.
41:58 Speaker 02 Yes.
41:58 Speaker 04 Okay.
41:59 Speaker 02 And Antarctica was, uh, well, but this is just to say that, like, um, we, so then we're like, oh, we lost three days, but we're on the ship. This is great. And then I, I had to fly back in time to do the actor awards, but then- They kept pushing the dates out of King, because did you fly in or did you cross Drake Passage?
42:16 Speaker 04 We flew in.
42:17 Speaker 02 We were doing the same.
42:17 Speaker 01 Onto the ice runway? Yeah, we heard about this.
42:20 Speaker 02 King George Island.
42:22 Speaker 01 Crazy.
42:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:23 Speaker 02 So they wouldn't clear us to fly for three days. So then we got the other, the flip side of it on the way back, which is we're sailing Drake Passage, which is where the Atlantic and the Pacific meet, the harshest waters.
42:34 Speaker 04 What's happens if you don't, if you can't fly out, you, you do have to cross.
42:39 Speaker 02 You do have to cross the passage.
42:40 Speaker 04 I did not know that. I didn't do my full research.
42:42 Speaker 02 No. And so when they broke the news to us, the room erupted in equal cheers and groans of agony.
42:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, we were about the same because we had a, we were held for an extra day.
42:54 Speaker 02 Yes.
42:55 Speaker 04 And there was tears of joy and tears of, I've got to get back. I've got a job to do. I'm going to lose my, we got to get off this boat.
43:04 Speaker 02 So how did you and the daughters, how, how did you guys react to that, to being held an extra day?
43:07 Speaker 04 I was happy.
43:07 Speaker 02 Okay, good. And now you're a cruise person, you said on Fallon.
43:11 Speaker 04 And then I was like, but I got to get off.
43:13 Speaker 01 Yeah. There comes a point.
43:16 Speaker 04 I can do one day, maybe two days, but not, I've got to get back.
43:19 Speaker 02 So I think you and I are the same.
43:21 Speaker 04 But I'm a cruise person now, yeah.
43:22 Speaker 01 Are you really?
43:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
43:24 Speaker 02 Because you said you have, you have two more planned.
43:26 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
43:27 Speaker 02 With Silver Sea?
43:28 Speaker 04 No.
43:28 Speaker 02 Okay.
43:29 Speaker 04 Uh, one with Silver Sea.
43:30 Speaker 02 Great. They're, they're lovely.
43:32 Speaker 04 And one with Ritz Carlton.
43:33 Speaker 02 Oh, fun. And the Aman's.
43:35 Speaker 04 I'm trying them all.
43:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, good.
43:36 Speaker 04 I'm ready. I'm ready. But my daughters, because there's only two of them, they're like, we want our family. So my sister has six kids. They have partners. They all, so I bring everyone. And then my best friend, since I was four, all her children and their partner. It's just, we have a big tribe that we travel with. And we're all like, with, and then Katie, who's here, is like my sister. So we have like this huge tribe of people.
44:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:05 Speaker 04 Um, and there's two women that work with me, who've worked with me for years, who are also like my sister. So it's like, come on, we go.
44:12 Speaker 01 Let's go.
44:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
44:13 Speaker 01 No, there's nothing better than being able to bring your people.
44:15 Speaker 04 I grew up in a family where we traveled in big groups.
44:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:18 Speaker 04 And we, we would do things in big groups. So it's very comforting to me. Yeah, definitely. So if I'm in the position to be able to share and do it. Of course. I'm doing it. I will work so hard so I can play hard.
44:31 Speaker 01 Yeah. And also, it's like, we were talking before the episode started about like, why you'd re-watch something you've already seen or do something. For me, it's often like, I want to watch other people experience this thing. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes, I don't know what that is, but it's like, maybe there's something to it for you and wanting everyone to be together. It's like, we're gonna have an experience together. And I really do enjoy the, I don't know what that would be called, but that sort of like transference that happens when someone else is having a moment of awe and wonder, or whatever the emotion is.
45:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:05 Speaker 01 You might be able to anticipate it yourself, but that's like, that's a thing.
45:11 Speaker 04 It's a thing. It's a thing. It's why I love throwing parties.
45:14 Speaker 01 Are you a party girl?
45:15 Speaker 04 And giving gifts.
45:16 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:17 Speaker 04 I love doing that.
45:18 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm a party girl.
45:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:21 Speaker 04 What did I say? I said, "Wants to..." Somebody, my kids were making fun of me. "Oh, I love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave."
45:28 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:29 Speaker 04 And they're like, "Does not go together, mom." And I'm like, "For me, it does."
45:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:34 Speaker 02 You, how do you feel? Do people still
45:39 Speaker 02 come up to you and bring up basement as sort of a cultural, like, touchstone now in a post-baby girl society?
45:47 Speaker 04 Yeah. Baby girl hit, we thought it was gonna be, speak to older women primarily.
45:54 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
45:54 Speaker 04 It hit a younger generation and gay men in a way that I had no idea would happen.
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49:53 Speaker 01 Yeah. I just locked eyes with my waiter. No, I literally did.
49:58 Speaker 04 But it was fascinating what people related to in that film. We thought it was a very, very, very niche thing.
50:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:07 Speaker 04 And it actually kind of, it moved. It had tentacles that spread wide. And then, in the same way that Big Little Lies reached sort of a particular group of people, Baby Girl did.
50:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:21 Speaker 04 I love that.
50:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
50:22 Speaker 04 Because it's unexpected to me.
50:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:25 Speaker 04 Yeah. But I loved dancing in Baby Girl down there in that basement.
50:30 Speaker 01 Oh, so good.
50:31 Speaker 04 And we started, and I came out of that with COVID and the flu.
50:36 Speaker 01 Whoa, a double whammy. That's where it goes down.
50:40 Speaker 04 That's where it went down.
50:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:42 Speaker 02 And how did, how did it come back that you just ran all the tests?
50:47 Speaker 04 I got so sick and they, and I knew going in, I was like, oh yeah. I'm, I'm going down here. I can just feel it. It's the middle of winter and it's running rampant right now. So, oh well.
50:59 Speaker 01 Baby girl, baby girl went down.
51:01 Speaker 04 Baby girl dropped.
51:02 Speaker 01 Baby girl dropped.
51:03 Speaker 02 Down. To her, on all fours. She fell on all fours.
51:08 Speaker 04 Yeah. Not even on all fours, flat on my back. There we go. Okay, we're getting.
51:13 Speaker 01 No, now we're cooking.
51:14 Speaker 04 Now we are racing.
51:15 Speaker 01 And now we, and now we have to ask you the question, which is the central question of our podcast, Nicole Kidman. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? This can be a film you saw, a musical artist, something atmospheric.
51:28 Speaker 04 No, I'm going to tell you.
51:30 Speaker 01 Tell me.
51:30 Speaker 04 Couture.
51:31 Speaker 01 Couture.
51:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, it actually was because all my dreams were based on it.
51:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
51:37 Speaker 04 I would look at like the clothes and fashion and exquisite, and, and my mom would say, look at that and look how it's made. So from Audrey Hepburn to Grace Kelly to all the different houses, Givenchy, all of them, I, that's what culturally for me made me dream.
51:58 Speaker 01 Wow, fashion.
51:59 Speaker 04 Ah, I grew up loving it. I somehow stumbled into being exposed to it, standing there with Galliano fitting dresses on me and Lagerfeld fitting dresses on me and being on the cover of Vogue and, and having access to the most beautiful things to wear on your body.
52:20 Speaker 01 When did that start? Was, was?
52:22 Speaker 04 Little, because I was, I would stand on a table and my grandmother would make all my clothes. But not kind of just haphazard, put them together, like hours and hours and hours. And she would put little collars on and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons. Everything was, yeah, couture. So I was baby couture. I was like, yeah, and I would stand there for hours because I wanted to wear the clothes.
52:53 Speaker 01 Do you remember the first?
52:54 Speaker 04 And then I would dress my Barbie in couture clothes because my grandmother would make my Barbie clothes. So I had clothes for my Barbie that nobody had.
53:02 Speaker 02 Of course.
53:04 Speaker 04 And then even my Ken doll.
53:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
53:06 Speaker 04 Had some clothes.
53:07 Speaker 01 Had couture.
53:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:08 Speaker 01 This is before Chalamet. So wait, when do you, do you remember the first designer or like artist in the fashion world that you worked with directly? And you felt like, oh, this is a moment for me in terms of an entry into the fashion world?
53:25 Speaker 04 I mean, the first one was John Galliano.
53:29 Speaker 04 And I was shooting Eyes Wide Shut. And so I was able to go over to Paris regularly. And, um, and I would stand there for them and they would try things on me and try different fabrics. And then I would go in and try on the hats and, um, and then I would go to Carl's house. Then it sort of just was, you know, it was just a bridge. And from that point on, I was, and you had, really, they don't come to you. You have to go to them and you have to be willing to be a mannequin, like a model and just stand there. And, and let them, let them design to you.
54:10 Speaker 04 And because I'd been so tall and skinny my whole life, suddenly there was a reason to be tall and skinny.
54:17 Speaker 01 Ectomorphicon.
54:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, I wanted always to be short and curvy. And so suddenly it was like, oh, I can be tall and skinny and somebody doesn't mind that.
54:26 Speaker 02 And there's a purpose. I mean.
54:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:28 Speaker 02 What are you anticipating?
54:29 Speaker 04 They can utilize it.
54:30 Speaker 02 Of course, of course. Are you anticipating anything in particular with Met Gala this year as being part of the host committee? Like, because I feel like it's such a pivotal year for the gala.
54:42 Speaker 04 Well, I just get to be there with Beyonce.
54:44 Speaker 01 Oh, the coolest.
54:45 Speaker 02 That's all that matters.
54:46 Speaker 04 That's it. Done. My, I'm done.
54:48 Speaker 01 Here we go. So, but is it a thing where you guys, do you discuss? Do you get like, as being part of the host committee?
54:55 Speaker 04 With Anna. Yeah, we work with Anna and, um, who is iconic.
55:00 Speaker 01 Is it her last year?
55:01 Speaker 04 And a genius.
55:02 Speaker 02 No, she's, she's staying on as to, to, to, to always chair the gala.
55:05 Speaker 01 The gala, okay.
55:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
55:06 Speaker 04 We need Anna.
55:07 Speaker 02 We do.
55:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
55:07 Speaker 04 We need Anna. Anna has created so many people's careers. She's a massive supporter of art and fashion and, and women. I mean, she's, she's extraordinary. And so therefore.
55:23 Speaker 04 To be able to, and it's, this is, I think it's the third time I've coached had.
55:27 Speaker 01 Hmm.
55:28 Speaker 04 I think.
55:29 Speaker 01 Yeah.
55:29 Speaker 04 So, but to do it now, I'm so, so happy. And my daughter, Sunday, will be coming.
55:36 Speaker 01 Oh, amazing.
55:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
55:38 Speaker 01 That's so fun.
55:38 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
55:39 Speaker 01 That's another thing you get to do with your daughter. That's incredible.
55:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, and she loves fashion. She's actually just walked the Dior show.
55:47 Speaker 01 Hmm.
55:48 Speaker 04 She's, yeah, she's flying back from Paris now. I know.
55:50 Speaker 01 Oh, my God, that's the coolest.
55:52 Speaker 04 I know. Which I had nothing to do with. It's her own whole world and her relationship and she and Jonathan Anderson. And yeah, it's incredible.
56:00 Speaker 01 I was thinking as you were talking, like you, you mentioned Grace Kelly, who you got to portray. You mentioned Audrey Hepburn, who obviously in Big Little Lies, you guys all get to do the Audrey Hepburn. And I did read.
56:09 Speaker 04 And then there's Marilyn, who I.
56:10 Speaker 01 Of course.
56:11 Speaker 04 I'll always be in love with Marilyn.
56:12 Speaker 01 I mean, yes. Um, and also I wanted to ask about Lucille Ball.
56:16 Speaker 04 Oh.
56:16 Speaker 01 Because I, I think that that's one of my favorite performances you've ever done. You really did capture just like her like relentless commitment to getting.
56:29 Speaker 04 To getting it right.
56:29 Speaker 01 To getting it right.
56:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
56:31 Speaker 01 And I wonder if that's something that you connected with, that, that, was it like?
56:35 Speaker 04 She, she's a harder worker than me. She knew what she wanted. She had to be. She came in an era when she had to be such a trailblazer. She had to, she was so brilliant.
56:46 Speaker 01 Yeah.
56:47 Speaker 04 That her, and comedy is detail.
56:50 Speaker 01 Yep.
56:50 Speaker 04 So, as she would say, comedy is detail. You can't be generalized. You can't be haphazard. Sometimes you'll stumble on a joke, but if you're really doing comedy and comedy every week that has to deliver time and time again, then that is arduous, hard, technical, skilled work.
57:09 Speaker 01 Yeah.
57:10 Speaker 04 It's not just fly by night, give it a, give it a whirl.
57:14 Speaker 01 Right.
57:14 Speaker 04 You know, and that's what, that's what I learnt from playing her. She was also an amazing businesswoman.
57:21 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
57:22 Speaker 04 At a time when there were not women at the helm. And she had a very, you know, complicated love relationship and she loved him. And and she was this, you know, just extraordinary being. So to be able to play her, whether I looked like her or not, I was able to capture her voice at least and her mannerisms. And then it was like I couldn't get rid of her.
57:46 Speaker 01 Hmm.
57:46 Speaker 04 And she was in me, but it was so fun. And half the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in the film. So.
57:54 Speaker 01 Really?
57:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
57:55 Speaker 01 You mean, was that in terms of the staging of the comedy scenes? That's really cool.
57:59 Speaker 04 So I could do every movement, every single movement like by, I studied and studied and stu- and with a movement. Like we did so much prep and then a tiny bit of it is in there, but that's, that's performance. You have to do an enormous amount of work and maybe it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't.
58:18 Speaker 01 Yeah.
58:18 Speaker 04 You can't be attached to it.
58:19 Speaker 01 Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the time that I guess you have.
58:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, you know.
58:25 Speaker 01 Doing.
58:26 Speaker 02 But like, gosh, and we're talking about it because I, I completely agree. And I was, it's funny, I was even watching being the Riccardos when I had Omicron. And I had to miss my only SNL, which was that, which was that episode in December twenty twenty one. Um, but I was watching you and it, and it did just give me this, it just did just download me with this notion that like, you have to be, comedy is logistics. It's, what did you say earlier? Comedy is detail?
58:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:53 Speaker 01 Detail.
58:54 Speaker 04 All in the detail.
58:54 Speaker 02 It's all in the details.
58:56 Speaker 04 And then where's the laugh? Where's the laugh? Okay, there it is. No, it's, and they were lucky because they have the live studio audience.
59:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
59:02 Speaker 04 So they had the feedback. I think it must be so hard trying to do that without that. Because this is like, okay, great. We know that works. We know that. It's like when you do theater and you go, great, that's working.
59:13 Speaker 02 Right.
59:13 Speaker 04 Or you're surprised at what works. And then you go, geez, I thought that wasn't going to work and that just landed.
59:20 Speaker 02 I know.
59:20 Speaker 04 Hold that, save that. We can layer that now. Now we can add and add and add.
59:26 Speaker 01 There's also nothing more distracting than. Artificial laugh track. Like some of, some of the multicams that they, not, no, this, uh, multicams. Yeah, like they do now where you can tell there's an artificial laugh track.
59:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
59:37 Speaker 01 I don't think we, I mean, we probably didn't need it.
59:40 Speaker 04 No.
59:40 Speaker 01 Cause it's just, you, you, we know from years of growing up on that, like.
59:44 Speaker 02 Right. Or it's like watching an AI video. It's like, I know the artifice here.
59:47 Speaker 01 Yes, it's just a little off in terms of the, the volume of the reaction or the timing of the reaction.
59:54 Speaker 02 I mean, but you've never hosted SNL before, have you?
59:57 Speaker 01 No, back in the nineties you did.
59:58 Speaker 02 Oh, oh, oh.
59:59 Speaker 01 Yeah.
59:59 Speaker 04 I did.
1:00:00 Speaker 02 Does this motivate you to do it? Did any of that motivate you or are you itching to do it again?
1:00:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, I would love to do it again.
1:00:05 Speaker 01 Oh, you should.
1:00:06 Speaker 04 It's just a lot of work.
1:00:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:00:07 Speaker 02 It is.
1:00:08 Speaker 04 It's a lot of work.
1:00:09 Speaker 02 And it's about sort of, gosh, it's, cause I was gonna say it's, it's about relinquishing the control, but also being so, just so fastidious with it too.
1:00:18 Speaker 04 I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what they're doing. So I would be happy to come back and do it and try stuff and just play. Cause really it is playing, right?
1:00:28 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:00:28 Speaker 04 But, um, but it's also when you have two kids and you live in Nashville and you work and you've got a whole other, it's, it's a lot to commit to, but it would, I, I mean, it's an honor if you're ever asked.
1:00:40 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:00:41 Speaker 04 So yeah, bow down. I would like, I would so love to. I'm sort of ready now. Cause I'm also at a place where I go, ah.
1:00:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:00:48 Speaker 01 Let's do it.
1:00:49 Speaker 04 Give it a try. If you fall flat on your face, it's okay. Get back up.
1:00:54 Speaker 02 You kind of skipped the idea of diarrhea island.
1:00:56 Speaker 01 Yeah. You have no idea where I've been and what it smelled like.
1:01:00 Speaker 04 That, that smell is a particular smell.
1:01:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:01:04 Speaker 02 I.
1:01:05 Speaker 01 Not replicable anywhere else?
1:01:05 Speaker 04 I'm very, very smell sensitive.
1:01:07 Speaker 01 Are you?
1:01:07 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:01:08 Speaker 04 Oh, like, yeah.
1:01:09 Speaker 02 Are you?
1:01:09 Speaker 04 We're gonna get to this part of my personality.
1:01:12 Speaker 01 You have a heightened smell?
1:01:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:01:14 Speaker 01 Well, you did come in and you complimented our, our scent.
1:01:17 Speaker 04 Yeah. I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on a smell.
1:01:21 Speaker 01 Thank God you're still here.
1:01:24 Speaker 04 And you make me laugh and I love you both. And I love how you smell. This is good.
1:01:33 Speaker 01 Really good vibe.
1:01:34 Speaker 02 Really good vibe.
1:01:34 Speaker 01 Okay, so I do, we have to ask you this other thing, which is, so we've had Reese and Laura here.
1:01:40 Speaker 04 My girls.
1:01:41 Speaker 01 The best.
1:01:42 Speaker 04 My girls.
1:01:43 Speaker 01 The best time with both of them. Reese came in and she did an impression of you.
1:01:48 Speaker 04 I've heard it.
1:01:49 Speaker 01 And then.
1:01:50 Speaker 04 And it's wrong.
1:01:51 Speaker 01 And it's wrong. Laura came in and did an impression of Reese. So we have to know if you have a Laura Dern.
1:02:00 Speaker 02 In a word.
1:02:00 Speaker 01 She says you definitely do.
1:02:02 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah. Now, let's talk about this.
1:02:09 Speaker 01 Yes, this is happening.
1:02:10 Speaker 04 Yes. Right. I know. Yes. It's the warmest, most responsive and you go, she gets me.
1:02:21 Speaker 01 Oh. She's resonating from her spirit.
1:02:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:02:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:02:24 Speaker 04 That is Laura.
1:02:25 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:02:26 Speaker 04 Right? Yeah.
1:02:27 Speaker 01 It is that, isn't it? And then she said her arms, like it's a little bit at the elbows, you know what I mean?
1:02:35 Speaker 02 She articulates from here.
1:02:36 Speaker 01 You know what I'm saying?
1:02:36 Speaker 04 She does. But seeing those two together.
1:02:40 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:02:40 Speaker 04 Watching them improv. Oh my god.
1:02:44 Speaker 01 Hilarious.
1:02:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, they should actually have their own improv show. They are hilarious.
1:02:51 Speaker 01 We were laughing.
1:02:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, but you haven't seen them together.
1:02:54 Speaker 01 No, I know.
1:02:55 Speaker 04 When they throw it back, I mean, they're both brilliant comedians.
1:02:59 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:02:59 Speaker 04 Brilliant. And then I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians of my generation and Sandy Bullock.
1:03:05 Speaker 01 Oh. On Practical Magic 2.
1:03:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:03:09 Speaker 01 So I have to say.
1:03:11 Speaker 04 Those women own it.
1:03:12 Speaker 02 Of course.
1:03:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, come on.
1:03:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, and Julia. Julia Roberts.
1:03:16 Speaker 02 Of course.
1:03:17 Speaker 04 The great comedians of their generation.
1:03:19 Speaker 01 Can we not sleep on your performance and just go with it, please? Okay, because there are people I know, and I'm gonna shout them out, Jared Frieder, who says, that's Nicole's best.
1:03:28 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:03:29 Speaker 01 Just go with it. You don't have, you have no idea how many.
1:03:32 Speaker 04 With Dave Matthews, where I'm dancing on the, you've got to.
1:03:35 Speaker 01 You worked with everyone.
1:03:37 Speaker 02 What haven't you done? It's amazing. It's truly incredible.
1:03:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, we were in, I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler and Jen. I mean, come on. Can it, can it get better than that?
1:03:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03:47 Speaker 04 And Dave Matthews.
1:03:48 Speaker 01 We gotta get you on the morning. Show.
1:03:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:03:51 Speaker 01 We're gonna get you in there with Reese and Jenna on the morning show.
1:03:53 Speaker 04 In all my spare time.
1:03:55 Speaker 01 I do have a question about how you do all of it. Like, do you look at your calendar and is it, are you booked through December at this point?
1:04:02 Speaker 04 Actually, no.
1:04:03 Speaker 01 You're not?
1:04:04 Speaker 04 No, I'm not.
1:04:05 Speaker 01 Is that a purposeful choice for this year?
1:04:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm, I'm open as of the summer.
1:04:10 Speaker 01 Cool.
1:04:10 Speaker 04 I'm just like, I'm, I'm going, okay, what's coming my way?
1:04:14 Speaker 01 We give you a script. Well, we have this for you.
1:04:17 Speaker 04 Sign up, but I'm, I'm, I've, I've got some holidays planned.
1:04:21 Speaker 01 There we go.
1:04:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm all about, yeah, the vacation.
1:04:25 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:04:25 Speaker 04 Right? So, so I got a cruise planned.
1:04:28 Speaker 01 Yes. Where are you going? Can you share?
1:04:30 Speaker 04 Oh, I can't tell. I'll tell you after.
1:04:32 Speaker 01 Tell us after.
1:04:33 Speaker 04 Please.
1:04:35 Speaker 01 I'm going to Thailand for the first time and I'm very excited about it. Yeah, never been.
1:04:40 Speaker 04 Been all over Thailand.
1:04:41 Speaker 01 I do feel like for some reason.
1:04:42 Speaker 04 I filmed in Thailand.
1:04:44 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
1:04:44 Speaker 02 Oh, that's right.
1:04:44 Speaker 01 Were you shooting?
1:04:45 Speaker 04 Twice. I did Bangkok Hilton when I was really, really young and then I did a film Railway Man.
1:04:49 Speaker 01 Oh, yes, yes, yes.
1:04:51 Speaker 04 No, you don't know that film.
1:04:52 Speaker 01 I don't think I know Railway Man, but I'm, I'm gonna be honest with you and say.
1:04:56 Speaker 04 Oh, yes, yes, yes.
1:04:57 Speaker 01 This is the Nicole Kidman. Yes, yes, yes. I'm happy you did. That, I can, you can watch it all.
1:05:06 Speaker 01 But no, I'm, I'm excited because I do feel like it's this weird, random thing that keeps happening where I end up going on a vacation to wherever the last White Lotus was.
1:05:14 Speaker 02 Wait a minute.
1:05:16 Speaker 01 We went to Sisley, the.
1:05:17 Speaker 04 Thank you, Mike White.
1:05:18 Speaker 01 Thank you, Mike White.
1:05:19 Speaker 04 Where's he going next? Where did he say he's going next?
1:05:22 Speaker 01 It's, it's.
1:05:22 Speaker 04 You should get ahead of it.
1:05:23 Speaker 01 He's going to Cannes. It's, it's Cannes.
1:05:25 Speaker 04 Oh, lovely.
1:05:26 Speaker 01 Did you know that?
1:05:26 Speaker 02 No.
1:05:27 Speaker 01 That's the rumor.
1:05:28 Speaker 04 Far out. That's gonna, that's gonna throw down, right?
1:05:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:05:32 Speaker 04 Let's go.
1:05:33 Speaker 01 This is what the buzz is on the streets. Well, he said.
1:05:36 Speaker 04 He's ingenious. Wow.
1:05:37 Speaker 01 There was an interview he did the other day where he said the interview deals with some with celebrity and about people who are comfortable being, um, seeking out a love that is more than just with one other person. They need a love of something larger. And about answering that question of why and about how people can feel when they're in a relationship with someone who needs more love than just one person can provide. Really interesting. And I, I think that like, you know, obviously there's gonna be themes of ego and stuff.
1:06:07 Speaker 04 That person is not satiated with themselves, right?
1:06:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:06:11 Speaker 02 Of course.
1:06:11 Speaker 04 They're not in love with themselves.
1:06:13 Speaker 01 Right. Is that what, is that what you think that is?
1:06:16 Speaker 04 Probably. They're not at peace. So that's a pretty, you're, I mean, you're going to face, you're gonna have to face the, the reality of what this life is at some point. So whether you're gonna allow yourself to come to that place, or whether you're just gonna get felt by it, right? It's, it's a choice. So you can do the work to actually try to, and it's never done, but you can always be going, okay, what do I do here? How do I, what, what is the next chapter? Particularly when you get to a certain stage in life. It's like, okay, where am I at now with who I am? And am I okay being alone?
1:06:59 Speaker 04 Cause as soon as you're okay with, and when I say being alone, like really being alone.
1:07:03 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:07:04 Speaker 04 It's not just being alone for a couple of days in your, in your apartment. It's, am I okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when I die. Is that gonna be okay?
1:07:15 Speaker 02 Are you?
1:07:16 Speaker 04 No, but you know, you can't, you don't know. So at some point, you've got to just face the facts.
1:07:23 Speaker 02 It's, which is about.
1:07:24 Speaker 04 You're going, you guys are gonna be like, geez.
1:07:27 Speaker 01 No, I'm with you.
1:07:28 Speaker 04 But it is true.
1:07:29 Speaker 01 I, I think about it a lot.
1:07:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, three AM in the morning when you wake up and you are alone. Well, that then is like, okay, this is where I have to be at peace.
1:07:39 Speaker 02 And being at peace is just about like assigning meaning to, if, if the meaning you're assigning to your life is not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality. It's like, if, it's like this thing of like, if you are, if your love has to involve the love of other people in this way that is a little grotesque or untenable or unsustainable, it's like, that is going to eat away at something. You have to find, you have to switch gears and find a different reason to like be alive and to give yourself meaning besides this thing that is not healthy for you.
1:08:12 Speaker 01 And can't give you what you're needing from it.
1:08:14 Speaker 04 Mm-mm. Never will.
1:08:15 Speaker 01 Never.
1:08:16 Speaker 04 Never.
1:08:18 Speaker 01 Mike White.
1:08:20 Speaker 04 Heavy.
1:08:21 Speaker 01 Do you ever watch any reality television? Because he's fully on Survivor right now.
1:08:27 Speaker 01 You didn't know this? Mike White is a Survivor contestant. He came in second. Oh, I'm so happy to tell you this. He came in second on a season of Survivor years ago. Post him being a well-known Hollywood writer, way after, you know, School of Rock and Enlightened and all of that. He went on Survivor, came in second place in a tough, like, well-guarded season. I'm sure at some point.
1:08:50 Speaker 04 What do you have to do?
1:08:51 Speaker 01 You gotta live.
1:08:52 Speaker 02 You gotta live.
1:08:53 Speaker 01 Gotta do the tribal council, the votes, all that. Came in second place.
1:08:56 Speaker 04 Second.
1:08:57 Speaker 01 And now he's on, this is the 50th season where they've brought back all the icons of the show. And I guess some, somehow he fit into his schedule, going out there for nearly 30 days and competing on Survivor. He's on it right now.
1:09:10 Speaker 04 How's he doing?
1:09:11 Speaker 01 Well.
1:09:12 Speaker 02 It's only one week, but so far, so good.
1:09:14 Speaker 01 And his whole narrative in the first episode was, he took his shirt off and he had like this ripped body. And everyone was like, Mike White? But I was like, I mean, man's got a Hollywood trainer.
1:09:24 Speaker 02 There you go.
1:09:25 Speaker 01 But that was the whole, his whole narrative on the first episode was, oh my God, he's ripped.
1:09:30 Speaker 04 That's crazy. I had no idea.
1:09:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:09:34 Speaker 04 Wow.
1:09:34 Speaker 01 Yeah. But you watch everything but reality TV?
1:09:37 Speaker 04 No, I sometimes watch reality TV. I've watched it with my daughters and I've been like, oh no, this is too much, turn it off.
1:09:44 Speaker 01 What are they into?
1:09:45 Speaker 04 Oh, I, I'm not allowed to talk about what they're into or anything.
1:09:49 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:09:49 Speaker 04 I'm too, um, what, what I get called millennial, so, um.
1:09:55 Speaker 02 Join the, join the club.
1:09:56 Speaker 01 Join the club.
1:09:56 Speaker 02 You're in the right place.
1:09:57 Speaker 04 So, and that is not a compliment.
1:10:00 Speaker 02 Right, of course, of course.
1:10:01 Speaker 04 Not from the teenager, right?
1:10:04 Speaker 01 But you do have a reputation like, like for watching a lot, like Reese does the impression of you being like, we have to get this director.
1:10:11 Speaker 04 But I watch art films and I watch.
1:10:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, I got you.
1:10:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm, I'm like, okay, who is this?
1:10:16 Speaker 01 Andrea Arnold.
1:10:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm like, who is this over here in Norway right now?
1:10:21 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:10:21 Speaker 04 Over in, yeah, I, I'm like, I love to, that, I've grown up doing that. I would go and I would sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle films since I was little.
1:10:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:10:32 Speaker 04 Hmm, was my access to the world. And I also wanted to raise global children.
1:10:37 Speaker 01 Right.
1:10:37 Speaker 04 So that's why my kids have been to seven continents.
1:10:40 Speaker 01 That's amazing.
1:10:41 Speaker 02 As of two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
1:10:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, crazy, right?
1:10:44 Speaker 01 They hit seven at what ages?
1:10:47 Speaker 04 Uh, she's fifteen, the youngest.
1:10:48 Speaker 01 Oh, wow, they did it.
1:10:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:10:50 Speaker 02 Beautiful.
1:10:50 Speaker 01 That's amazing.
1:10:51 Speaker 04 Yeah. And now they gotta go round two.
1:10:53 Speaker 01 We have to find a new continent. We gotta, we, we gotta go to space.
1:10:58 Speaker 02 There's the moon.
1:10:59 Speaker 01 There is the moon, the eighth continent, the moon. It's actually Rulaculture number fifteen. There is the moon, the eighth continent, the moon.
1:11:07 Speaker 02 Well.
1:11:08 Speaker 01 I'm trying to think if they, before we do, I don't think so, honey, if there's anything else I need to pick our guest.
1:11:12 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
1:11:13 Speaker 01 An expression I don't like, pick brain.
1:11:15 Speaker 02 Pick brain.
1:11:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, you can pick my brain. Pick my heart.
1:11:17 Speaker 02 Pick your heart, oh.
1:11:20 Speaker 01 Okay, wait, you know that you have one of the most iconic Vogue seventy-three questions?
1:11:24 Speaker 04 I do?
1:11:25 Speaker 01 You do.
1:11:26 Speaker 04 I did not know. See, I.
1:11:27 Speaker 01 My six alpacas.
1:11:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:11:31 Speaker 01 That, I mean, like.
1:11:31 Speaker 04 There's only four now.
1:11:33 Speaker 01 There's only four.
1:11:33 Speaker 02 Oh, I'm so sorry.
1:11:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:11:35 Speaker 01 We gonna get two new ones?
1:11:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:11:37 Speaker 01 Okay, good. Yeah, we gotta keep it at six alpacas.
1:11:39 Speaker 04 My six alpacas. And then they're like, can you lead the alpaca through the frame? We're like, no, no. That you do not understand. We were like, come on, come on, come on Byron.
1:11:49 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:11:49 Speaker 04 Named after Lord Byron.
1:11:51 Speaker 02 Oh.
1:11:51 Speaker 04 Come on, come on Byron. Nope, Byron was like, no. Then we're like, forget it. It just doesn't look good. Byron.
1:11:58 Speaker 01 We're pulling Lord Byron.
1:11:59 Speaker 04 I said, no, Byron. So it's just like, no, sit on the porch. Sit on the steps.
1:12:04 Speaker 01 How many takes was yours?
1:12:06 Speaker 04 Uh, maybe six?
1:12:09 Speaker 01 Oh, wow, it's a, it's a long day.
1:12:11 Speaker 04 It's a long day, but you kind of play and yeah, but you walked all through my country estate.
1:12:17 Speaker 01 I loved it. It was beautiful.
1:12:18 Speaker 04 It's different now.
1:12:19 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:12:20 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:12:20 Speaker 04 I've redesigned it. I redid it. Might, might need another seventy-three questions there.
1:12:25 Speaker 01 You have to, we have to go back. We'll do it. Not that Vogue won't wanna do it. Yeah.
1:12:29 Speaker 02 More animals. There you go.
1:12:30 Speaker 01 There we go. Reason to return.
1:12:32 Speaker 02 Chase Meridian, Vogue seventy-three questions.
1:12:34 Speaker 04 There's miniature goats now.
1:12:35 Speaker 02 Oh, perfect.
1:12:36 Speaker 01 Oh, To Die For, you just watched To Die For for the first time.
1:12:39 Speaker 04 Two horses.
1:12:40 Speaker 01 Two horses?
1:12:41 Speaker 04 You didn't meet the horse.
1:12:42 Speaker 01 No, we didn't get to see them.
1:12:43 Speaker 04 There's many, many more. Yeah.
1:12:44 Speaker 01 We, cause he had never, okay, so he had, he had a blind spot, which was.
1:12:49 Speaker 02 My six out pack is.
1:12:50 Speaker 01 He had a blind spot, which was To Die For, which was.
1:12:52 Speaker 04 Oh, you hadn't seen To Die For?
1:12:54 Speaker 01 No, he's seen it now. I love To Die For. I love Suzanne Stone.
1:12:58 Speaker 02 Suzanne Stone, I feel like.
1:13:00 Speaker 04 Suzanne Stone is a killer.
1:13:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I love her for.
1:13:04 Speaker 04 A pretty killer.
1:13:05 Speaker 01 She was a gorgeous killer, but I have to say like, there's just something, again, maybe it is.
1:13:10 Speaker 04 It's Buck Henry and Gus Van Sant.
1:13:12 Speaker 02 I can't believe Buck Henry wrote that.
1:13:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:13:14 Speaker 02 And Gus.
1:13:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, Buck Henry for everyone. If you saw The Graduate, he wrote The Graduate. I mean, he's one of the great, great writers. And then Gus Van Sant, what can we say?
1:13:24 Speaker 01 I also shout out to, obviously Joaquin, but Iliana Douglas.
1:13:28 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:13:29 Speaker 01 Amazing in that movie and gets lost in the conversation of great performances from that era. That's a great performance.
1:13:36 Speaker 02 Was she already a skater when you guys shot?
1:13:38 Speaker 04 No, she couldn't skate. She said she could skate. Hey, we're actors.
1:13:40 Speaker 01 I love it.
1:13:41 Speaker 04 Can you ice skate? Absolutely.
1:13:43 Speaker 01 Absolutely, I can.
1:13:43 Speaker 04 And then she was on the ice. Not so good. Not so good.
1:13:48 Speaker 02 She made it look good.
1:13:49 Speaker 01 It was so good in the movie.
1:13:51 Speaker 04 She in a double.
1:13:52 Speaker 02 She in a double.
1:13:53 Speaker 01 Oh, wow.
1:13:54 Speaker 04 But she did, she got there. But you know, that's what you say. Can you ride a horse? Absolutely. Can you ice skate? Yes, I can. Can you? What? Just say yes.
1:14:03 Speaker 01 Have you lied?
1:14:04 Speaker 04 Um, I've said, yeah, I can sing. And then Baz is like, hmm, we're gonna need more singing lessons. You know, it's always yes.
1:14:12 Speaker 02 It's always yes.
1:14:13 Speaker 04 And then you grow.
1:14:15 Speaker 02 Because you know who I'm talking, I'm talking to Gina Gershon tonight because her book, her memoir, she's the best.
1:14:19 Speaker 04 I love her. Give her my love.
1:14:20 Speaker 02 I will.
1:14:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:14:21 Speaker 02 All through her memoir, she's like, every, every role I've got, like, Showgirls, can you dance?
1:14:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:14:27 Speaker 02 No. It's like, it's like, you just say yes.
1:14:30 Speaker 01 You have to.
1:14:30 Speaker 04 I will. I will.
1:14:32 Speaker 01 But then it's gonna become that thing where it's like, can you ski? And I'm gonna be like, yeah. And you really can't, and then it's a hazard. So say yes within reason, people.
1:14:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. No, it's dangerous when you say, it's like, how much do you want, want the role?
1:14:46 Speaker 01 Exactly. Pretty bad, that would be.
1:14:49 Speaker 04 They're on to us now because then they're like, okay, we'll show us.
1:14:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, right. There's a video of you doing it.
1:14:54 Speaker 04 They've hacked us as actors.
1:14:56 Speaker 02 I know.
1:14:57 Speaker 04 Directors and producers are like, hmm. Hmm. Send me a tape. Show me.
1:15:03 Speaker 02 Not that anyone has to put you through your paces.
1:15:05 Speaker 01 I know. Like you've proven you can do everything. Also, like, what?
1:15:10 Speaker 04 Not really. I'm, I'm on, I'm on a, I'm just on a massive learning curve. I'm always like, okay. Teach me. Teach me. I'm teachable. That would be a good attribute to say, I'm teachable.
1:15:21 Speaker 01 Teachable. That's a great thing to be.
1:15:23 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:15:24 Speaker 02 I think it's.
1:15:25 Speaker 04 I hope it is.
1:15:26 Speaker 01 Might be time for, I don't think so, honey.
1:15:27 Speaker 04 And I'm not rigid.
1:15:28 Speaker 02 No.
1:15:29 Speaker 01 Certainly not.
1:15:30 Speaker 04 And I always wake up in a good mood.
1:15:32 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:15:33 Speaker 04 I always.
1:15:33 Speaker 01 You always wake up in a good mood? What do you attribute that to?
1:15:36 Speaker 04 I don't know. Born that way.
1:15:38 Speaker 02 You wake up in a good mood always.
1:15:40 Speaker 04 Yeah. I've always woken up in a good mood.
1:15:43 Speaker 01 Does that correlate to how you go to bed?
1:15:46 Speaker 04 I go to bed, I, I have trouble sleeping because I have a lot of energy. So, yeah.
1:15:53 Speaker 01 Do you drink coffee or you don't even need it?
1:15:55 Speaker 04 Well, not after midday, but I did today. That's why I'm kind of jacked up now. Can you tell?
1:15:59 Speaker 02 I love that.
1:16:00 Speaker 04 I'm usually a lot quieter.
1:16:02 Speaker 01 More sedate?
1:16:03 Speaker 04 Yeah. I feel a bit jacked up, actually.
1:16:05 Speaker 01 I had a cold brew today and then two Coke Zero, so I'm a killing machine.
1:16:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:16:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:16:10 Speaker 04 Will you sleep tonight?
1:16:12 Speaker 01 Maybe not, but that would be because I was so excited about this. No, I'm serious. We have been dying that you're coming.
1:16:20 Speaker 02 I know, it felt cosmically right when, when on the boat, they were like, you know, who was just here for Nicole Kidman? And I was like, I'm talking to her next week. It was, it was crazy. I feel like even though you are caffeine post midday, it is still, talking to you and being with you in person, it is still the thing of like, oh, Nicole Kidman, like, has levitated in all her roles, essentially. You know what I mean? It's like you have this, like, airy lightness to you.
1:16:45 Speaker 01 You can come as many as you want.
1:16:47 Speaker 04 So good.
1:16:48 Speaker 01 Well, you really have given so much to culture and that's what our podcast is about. And we've now been doing it for 10 years and I would imagine you probably come up like, you know. Quite often, to say the least, and I just think back to all the eras of like our life as moviegoers and you have a place in all of them. And I just, and in so many different ways, like whether it's like as mainstream as Batman or as niche as something like Birth, you know what I mean? Or, you know, Dogville or
1:17:20 Speaker 04 Dogville.
1:17:21 Speaker 01 I mean, like, thi- thi- this is like, you are a true, you have a true artist's spirit and you're also this like mega watt movie star and they just, they don't make them like you anymore. Like Margot Robbie must be like
1:17:36 Speaker 04 I love her.
1:17:37 Speaker 01 Spiritual sister to you.
1:17:38 Speaker 04 She's my, yeah, and I love Emma Stone. I love her. She's so brave and she's just like, yeah, shave my head, absolutely. What do you want? You're a ghost, let's go.
1:17:48 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:17:48 Speaker 04 But then, you know, I've, I've just went and worked with Osgood Perkins. I did a small role in Young People, which is his
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1:21:26 Speaker 04 Horror film that he's got coming out and I love him and I wanted to go and support him. So he's like, I've written this role, it's three days work. And I'm like, yep, yep, I'm coming, coming your way.
1:21:36 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:21:37 Speaker 04 So I just love being able to do something like Practical Magic, which is a big studio film, and then go do a fully independent, crazy wild thing. With a bunch of really great young actresses who are
1:21:49 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:21:50 Speaker 04 rising stars.
1:21:51 Speaker 01 I mean, we're good friends with Megan Fahey.
1:21:54 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, yeah.
1:21:55 Speaker 01 I just love.
1:21:57 Speaker 04 And she's, she's so good.
1:21:59 Speaker 01 She's amazing.
1:21:59 Speaker 04 She is on the cusp of being massive.
1:22:03 Speaker 01 Oh, she can do it all.
1:22:04 Speaker 04 She can do it all.
1:22:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, did you see Drop?
1:22:06 Speaker 04 Sort of effortless. No, I haven't seen it.
1:22:08 Speaker 01 She was in this movie called Drop, which came out last year, which was, she plays a single mom, recently single mom, who goes on the first date she's been on since her abuser husband, like, took his own life.
1:22:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:22:21 Speaker 01 And tried to kill her, and she's finally got her legs again, and she goes on a blind date with this guy, and she sits down at dinner, and she starts getting airdropped messages from someone at her home who's kidnapped her son. And so it's just, it's sort of like, like a
1:22:35 Speaker 02 It's like a, it's like a
1:22:36 Speaker 01 Red Eye meets like, I don't even know.
1:22:39 Speaker 04 Oh, I'm gonna watch it.
1:22:40 Speaker 01 Oh, it's good, and Megan is fantastic in it. She just holds the frame, and she's just so good.
1:22:46 Speaker 04 Gorgeous, and she's talented. Yeah.
1:22:48 Speaker 01 Oh, I'm gonna text her after this.
1:22:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
1:22:51 Speaker 01 But anyways, all that and more.
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1:22:55 Speaker 01 It's time for I Don't Think So Honey, which we take one minute to tear something up in culture.
1:23:00 Speaker 04 You time it?
1:23:01 Speaker 02 We time it.
1:23:01 Speaker 01 We time it. You'll see how it goes.
1:23:03 Speaker 04 No, I know.
1:23:04 Speaker 01 All right, I'm, I'm ready to go, and it's not gonna be popular with, with the rest of the panel here today, but I'm just gonna go ahead and do it.
1:23:10 Speaker 02 I know where this is going. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
1:23:13 Speaker 01 I don't think so, honey, Antarctica.
1:23:14 Speaker 02 No.
1:23:15 Speaker 01 Because I FaceTimed my girl on the way to Antarctica, and she's supine in a rickety vessel with the, what do you call it?
1:23:25 Speaker 02 A scop patch.
1:23:26 Speaker 01 A scop patch, whatever this is. You have to learn what that is to go to Antarctica. He's got the scop patch, whatever it is, however you goddamn spell it, on his neck. I go, is that helping? He goes, yeah, but I can't see. My girl is cross-eyed supine on the Drake's Passage. Now I know what the Drake's Passage is, the most treacherous waters for the Atlantic meets the Pacific? I don't think so, honey. Keep them separate. I I see my girl finally gets to Antarctica, takes a few pictures, sends me a video. It's the iceberg falling apart. The iceberg takes the video of the iceberg.
1:23:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:23:57 Speaker 01 And I say, now, is that supposed to happen? He says, they go yes and no. I go, OK, not great information for me on tonight. I don't think so, honey, Antarctica. You can kind of get there, kind of not. You have to wait days.
1:24:08 Speaker 02 Five seconds.
1:24:09 Speaker 01 Nicole Kidman's flying in on an ice. What is it called? The pathway?
1:24:15 Speaker 02 Of, of the island.
1:24:17 Speaker 01 I don't know, so honey, I don't think so, honey.
1:24:19 Speaker 02 And that's one minute.
1:24:20 Speaker 01 Just maybe not for me. I can get, I can get Africa in and that'll be six.
1:24:26 Speaker 02 And you're gonna keep it at six.
1:24:26 Speaker 04 No, no, we'll work on you.
1:24:28 Speaker 01 We'll work on you.
1:24:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:24:29 Speaker 01 But I just, I don't know.
1:24:31 Speaker 04 That's a bad, that there, no, we can delete that.
1:24:35 Speaker 02 We're deleting.
1:24:36 Speaker 01 We can delete that on this one. OK, I will say.
1:24:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:24:39 Speaker 01 I had planned to do that once, so I did it, but you guys do make it sound really appealing and adventurous.
1:24:43 Speaker 04 Oh, good.
1:24:43 Speaker 01 The quiet and the meta.
1:24:44 Speaker 04 We've moved you off it.
1:24:45 Speaker 01 No, truly.
1:24:46 Speaker 04 You've already changed your mind.
1:24:47 Speaker 01 That's my portability. My prerogative.
1:24:51 Speaker 02 The patch is transdermal. It steadies your optic nerve, so then I couldn't see.
1:24:57 Speaker 04 Yikes.
1:24:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:24:59 Speaker 04 I didn't do the patch. I just was hardcore.
1:25:02 Speaker 01 You roughed it.
1:25:02 Speaker 02 You were raw dogging.
1:25:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
1:25:04 Speaker 01 You just did it.
1:25:05 Speaker 04 I'm a Navy SEAL.
1:25:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:25:07 Speaker 04 No, I've been told that with pain.
1:25:09 Speaker 01 Really?
1:25:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:25:10 Speaker 01 What, what made someone say that to you?
1:25:12 Speaker 02 Destroyer.
1:25:13 Speaker 04 Cause I can, no, no, for some reason.
1:25:15 Speaker 01 Filming destroyer, they said, you're a Navy SEAL.
1:25:17 Speaker 04 And just still not even go and get it x-rayed and not check it and walk around and just say it's a pulled muscle.
1:25:22 Speaker 01 Really?
1:25:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
1:25:25 Speaker 02 Holy moly.
1:25:26 Speaker 01 Now, that's concerning.
1:25:27 Speaker 04 Not, not normal for a redhead, because usually you feel extra pain. That's what they say.
1:25:32 Speaker 01 Redheads feel extra pain?
1:25:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:25:33 Speaker 01 Is that, is that a recessive gene thing?
1:25:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's something to do. They just say, well, I'm not that.
1:25:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:25:39 Speaker 04 I, I can like, I don't know, I put myself in a trance.
1:25:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:25:43 Speaker 04 They go, do you need the anesthesia? No.
1:25:46 Speaker 01 Ha, so you need to do Survivor, is what you're saying.
1:25:50 Speaker 04 I wish I'd known Mike was doing it. I would have done it with him.
1:25:52 Speaker 01 There you go. I don't think it's too late. We might get him back for another season if he's, if you go to.
1:25:57 Speaker 04 You should have texted me and said, do you want to do this together?
1:26:01 Speaker 04 And we would have gone head to head.
1:26:03 Speaker 02 You would have gone head to head.
1:26:04 Speaker 04 I definitely would have come in second. I think I will come in last, though, because I give up easily.
1:26:10 Speaker 01 No, you don't. You can walk around with a broken bone.
1:26:12 Speaker 04 No, but in terms of a competition that's that, I would just go, eh, I give up.
1:26:18 Speaker 01 Are you not a competitive person?
1:26:19 Speaker 04 I'm not good to have on a sports team because I was always chosen last for the volleyball team. Because I just was like, wow, is this really important? Do we have to win this? I'm not a good doubles tennis partner because I'm like, oh, I can psychologically, I need, I need some sports psychology.
1:26:38 Speaker 02 I'm with you.
1:26:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, I give up. I'm like, do it matter?
1:26:43 Speaker 01 See, I think for me it mattered too much growing up.
1:26:46 Speaker 04 I'm so sorry.
1:26:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:26:48 Speaker 02 But let's all go to dinner, you know?
1:26:50 Speaker 01 Let's have a glass of wine.
1:26:51 Speaker 04 Yeah. It's too stressful. Life's too stressful.
1:26:55 Speaker 01 Life's too stressful to care about winning the volleyball game.
1:26:58 Speaker 04 Not all the tennis match. Let's just play some recreational tennis.
1:27:04 Speaker 01 Hit the ball back and forth.
1:27:05 Speaker 04 I said hit the ball. Nicole, what are you doing?
1:27:08 Speaker 01 See.
1:27:09 Speaker 04 Serve it.
1:27:10 Speaker 01 They, they, they're not going to get what they want.
1:27:13 Speaker 02 Right.
1:27:14 Speaker 04 Who?
1:27:14 Speaker 01 Your tennis partner.
1:27:15 Speaker 04 No. But I'll play and I'll wear a short tennis skirt and try to look cute.
1:27:21 Speaker 01 Give the, give the vibes.
1:27:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
1:27:23 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:27:23 Speaker 04 Couture.
1:27:24 Speaker 02 Couture, I was just saying it's couture.
1:27:27 Speaker 01 Tennis playing.
1:27:27 Speaker 02 All that training.
1:27:28 Speaker 01 Are you ready?
1:27:29 Speaker 02 I'm ready.
1:27:30 Speaker 01 I don't think Sony. Okay, here we go.
1:27:31 Speaker 04 Speak really fast.
1:27:33 Speaker 01 This is Bo and Yang's. I don't think Sony. His time starts now.
1:27:36 Speaker 02 I don't think Sony, the scam, the long con that is outdoor furniture.
1:27:42 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:27:42 Speaker 02 What do you mean? I gotta tie it down. What do you mean that a cough of a Victorian child could blow the cushions into another yard? Now I'm doing parkour from one patio to the next just to fetch my damn.
1:28:01 Speaker 02 Stained, water stained cushions for my
1:28:05 Speaker 01 Thirty seconds.
1:28:06 Speaker 02 Rattan, rattan chair. I gotta tie up the umbrella that is also gonna be marked by the the dirt and minerals of rain. I don't know, man. If you gotta tie down anything so it doesn't blow away like tumbleweed, I don't think it's worth buying and placing in in this, in your own space. Outdoor furniture, it's, it's a scam. Your outdoor rugs, they're gonna look like shit in six months. Wait for one season to pass by, it'll look bad.
1:28:38 Speaker 01 And that's what I meant it.
1:28:39 Speaker 04 That is true.
1:28:40 Speaker 01 I have to co-sign this.
1:28:41 Speaker 04 I'm co-signing it too.
1:28:42 Speaker 02 And you're, you own a damn farm, Nicole.
1:28:44 Speaker 04 And I'm like, you get the beautiful, warm stained wood. And they're like, no, the silver ratty thing is actually what it's meant to look like.
1:28:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:28:53 Speaker 04 And you're like, no, no, I wanted it to stay looking like it was in the store.
1:28:58 Speaker 02 Tough luck.
1:28:58 Speaker 04 That's what you said it would do. It's just like any furniture you put outside and then it gets old and ratty.
1:29:05 Speaker 02 It's impossible to clean.
1:29:07 Speaker 04 Faster, faster than the indoor furniture.
1:29:09 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:29:09 Speaker 04 You're right. So just drag the indoor furniture outside when you need it.
1:29:13 Speaker 02 You might as well.
1:29:15 Speaker 01 You might as well. It gets incredibly dirty incredibly quickly, especially in LA where, at least where my place is. Like, just filth.
1:29:23 Speaker 02 I think anywhere.
1:29:24 Speaker 04 I agree.
1:29:25 Speaker 02 Anyway, I'm ju- I'm just saying.
1:29:27 Speaker 04 I don't think so, honey.
1:29:30 Speaker 02 Thank you.
1:29:30 Speaker 01 That part. And you know, I hate thinking about you doing parkour around the buildings. Like you're Spider-Man or something.
1:29:36 Speaker 02 I'm running around going, hey, pal, my, my little topiary fell into your, whatever. You know what I mean? Like.
1:29:44 Speaker 04 Yeah. And, and then you've got the outdoor cushions piled up indoors, taking up space, not looking good. Where do we put these? Just shove them in the corner and you're like, just
1:29:57 Speaker 02 Just, I gotta.
1:29:57 Speaker 04 Get rid of them.
1:29:58 Speaker 01 Get rid of it.
1:29:59 Speaker 04 They're ugly.
1:30:00 Speaker 02 I have to have a storage bin for the tarps to cover
1:30:04 Speaker 01 I don't like.
1:30:05 Speaker 02 The grill.
1:30:06 Speaker 01 I don't think so, honey, tarps. Can I say? Nothing good happens around the tarp.
1:30:11 Speaker 02 No, no, no.
1:30:12 Speaker 01 Lay down the tarp.
1:30:13 Speaker 02 That was another thing in Antarctica though, we had to, you couldn't put anything to, you had to put it down on the tarp. You had to put your life jacket onto the tarp. You had to protect it all.
1:30:20 Speaker 04 Had to protect it all.
1:30:21 Speaker 01 But maybe we need some more of the Antarctica energy around the world.
1:30:25 Speaker 02 I think so.
1:30:26 Speaker 01 Because I will say, we went to Tokyo, then came back to America. Couldn't believe how filthy we are by comparison.
1:30:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:30:33 Speaker 01 Like, you walk around New York and you compare it to Tokyo, it's like, absolutely absurd. Like, you don't even see it because you're so used to it.
1:30:41 Speaker 02 I know.
1:30:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:30:42 Speaker 01 Like, but it's like that in, like, London.
1:30:43 Speaker 04 It's all about the contrast, isn't it?
1:30:45 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:30:46 Speaker 04 To open your eyes.
1:30:48 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:30:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:30:49 Speaker 01 That's why it's important to travel.
1:30:51 Speaker 02 I agree.
1:30:51 Speaker 01 I agree.
1:30:52 Speaker 02 Now, it's time.
1:30:54 Speaker 04 Uh-oh, mine?
1:30:55 Speaker 01 This is gonna be good.
1:30:55 Speaker 02 I think, I think you've got it. You've got the idea.
1:30:57 Speaker 04 I've got the idea.
1:30:59 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:30:59 Speaker 01 You're gonna absolutely crush it.
1:31:01 Speaker 02 This is Nicole Kidman's "I Don't Think So, Honey," and her time starts now.
1:31:07 Speaker 04 I don't think so, honey, if you have bad breath. I cannot stand bad breath. I mean, this is a deal breaker for me.
1:31:16 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:31:17 Speaker 04 Like, you could be the most gorgeous, gorgeous guy, and you come at me with bad breath, and I'm like, no. No, no, no.
1:31:25 Speaker 01 It's off.
1:31:25 Speaker 04 Right? It's like, if I say, "Breathe on me," and I have to recoil? Yikes. I'm out. I am out. You could not offer me enough money.
1:31:37 Speaker 02 Thirty seconds.
1:31:37 Speaker 04 And so therefore, when Alexander Skarsgård ate a falafel sandwich before we did the scenes in Big Little Lies, I'm like, "No, no, no, Alex. I'm meant to be kissing you and into you. Put away the falafel now." Right? Because the bad breath does not turn me on.
1:31:59 Speaker 01 Alex, yeah.
1:32:00 Speaker 04 As I said, it is very important to smell good, but more importantly, the mouth, the taste of the mouth, and the smell of the mouth is very important to me.
1:32:12 Speaker 02 And that's one minute.
1:32:13 Speaker 01 I have to say, Alexander Skarsgård has been having such a moment with Pillion, and you just knocked him out.
1:32:22 Speaker 04 I'm sure he did not eat a falafel ever again.
1:32:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, you looked him in the eyes and you said-
1:32:27 Speaker 04 I said, "No more falafel."
1:32:28 Speaker 01 No more of that.
1:32:29 Speaker 04 Nope, not before you kiss. Not before you make love. No more falafel.
1:32:35 Speaker 01 No more falafel before you make love.
1:32:36 Speaker 04 Put the falafel away.
1:32:37 Speaker 01 It's a Rulaculture number fifty. No more falafel before you make love.
1:32:41 Speaker 02 Before you make love. And I just have to say, for an actor of your caliber to say that-
1:32:49 Speaker 02 Falafel could destroy the reality of the scene. Could just render, could render the scene work completely meaningless.
1:33:01 Speaker 02 Purely on breath.
1:33:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:33:02 Speaker 02 You really are an olfactory queen.
1:33:04 Speaker 01 You are an olfactory queen.
1:33:05 Speaker 04 It's all about the smell.
1:33:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:33:08 Speaker 04 Yeah. You want me to lean in, smell good. Totally.
1:33:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, smell.
1:33:13 Speaker 02 Tight to memory.
1:33:14 Speaker 04 Hmm, which is why when I lost it, I was relieved.
1:33:18 Speaker 02 After basement.
1:33:19 Speaker 01 You said unburden me.
1:33:21 Speaker 04 I was like, phew.
1:33:24 Speaker 02 Oh, this is during, this is after Baby Girl, this is after the scene.
1:33:27 Speaker 04 After Covid, I lost the smell.
1:33:29 Speaker 01 Combo.
1:33:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:33:30 Speaker 01 They call it the Baby Girl combo.
1:33:32 Speaker 04 I was in a, I was in a good way, cuz it was a muta, it was finally, I was free.
1:33:37 Speaker 01 You knew peace finally, it was like you were in Antarctica on the ocean.
1:33:40 Speaker 04 I was free.
1:33:42 Speaker 02 So that when it came back.
1:33:45 Speaker 01 I am obsessed, I can't, now, now knowing.
1:33:48 Speaker 04 And you wanna know who smells the best ever? Rihanna.
1:33:53 Speaker 02 Oh, of course.
1:33:55 Speaker 01 I've heard that, actually.
1:33:57 Speaker 04 It's true.
1:33:57 Speaker 01 Do you think it's that, like, she just has a scent that, like, like a fragrance that she has?
1:34:04 Speaker 04 I don't know.
1:34:04 Speaker 01 It's, it's something you can't explain.
1:34:06 Speaker 04 We don't need to unravel it, decipher it.
1:34:08 Speaker 02 No.
1:34:08 Speaker 04 Just know, it's all true.
1:34:11 Speaker 01 What does it smell like?
1:34:12 Speaker 04 It's intoxicating, it is like I will follow you around. And it is like, you smell so good.
1:34:21 Speaker 01 Oh, my gosh.
1:34:22 Speaker 02 I will follow you around, so you're saying.
1:34:24 Speaker 04 I'm Pepe Le Pew.
1:34:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:34:26 Speaker 02 You're Pepe Le Pew.
1:34:28 Speaker 01 In the most respectful way.
1:34:31 Speaker 04 But no, truly, she smells divine.
1:34:33 Speaker 01 Wait, by the way.
1:34:33 Speaker 04 I'll tell you who also really smelled divine.
1:34:36 Speaker 01 I have my Looney Tunes characters on today.
1:34:38 Speaker 04 Yes. We love Looney Tunes.
1:34:41 Speaker 01 We love Looney Tunes.
1:34:42 Speaker 04 Yes, there's Coyote.
1:34:43 Speaker 01 Yeah, there he is.
1:34:44 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:34:45 Speaker 01 Now, don't you do.
1:34:45 Speaker 04 Tweety Bird.
1:34:47 Speaker 01 Don't you do Little Quacka.
1:34:48 Speaker 04 There's Tweety.
1:34:50 Speaker 01 Tweety, all of them.
1:34:51 Speaker 04 Oh, my god.
1:34:52 Speaker 01 Honestly, I wanna, I, I knew to whip this out at the right moment.
1:34:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, something is happening.
1:34:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:34:58 Speaker 02 You are in a thrall right now about Rihanna, Tweety Bird, smells in general.
1:35:05 Speaker 01 The legendary ladies of our time.
1:35:08 Speaker 04 I'm sensory.
1:35:09 Speaker 01 Okay, I'm so happy I remembered to
1:35:11 Speaker 04 Tweety Bird.
1:35:13 Speaker 01 This is a cute mock.
1:35:14 Speaker 02 It's very cute.
1:35:15 Speaker 04 So good.
1:35:16 Speaker 01 Anyways.
1:35:16 Speaker 04 So good.
1:35:18 Speaker 01 Listen.
1:35:19 Speaker 04 Okay, Falafels, Tweety Bird, Rihanna.
1:35:22 Speaker 01 Rihanna, we covered it all.
1:35:24 Speaker 02 Diarrhea Island.
1:35:26 Speaker 01 Diarrhea Island.
1:35:27 Speaker 04 That's why I didn't like it, you see?
1:35:29 Speaker 01 Of course.
1:35:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, the smell, it's all about smell.
1:35:32 Speaker 01 It's been a shivery delicious episode.
1:35:35 Speaker 04 Fabulous.
1:35:35 Speaker 01 Fabulous doesn't even begin to cut it. We wanna just say thank you so much for coming here.
1:35:40 Speaker 04 Thanks for having me.
1:35:41 Speaker 01 I mean, Scarpetta is out now. You can, you can stream it the hell away, like in one binge. That's what Nicole is saying to do.
1:35:50 Speaker 04 I'm watch Jamie Lee Curtis and I
1:35:52 Speaker 01 Tear it up.
1:35:53 Speaker 04 Fisty cuffs. We come to, we, we physically fight in it.
1:35:56 Speaker 01 Oh, I'm so happy.
1:35:59 Speaker 04 We literally fight.
1:36:00 Speaker 02 And you two are
1:36:01 Speaker 04 Sister fight, but like, come to blows.
1:36:05 Speaker 02 You are two, I'm gonna say, rambunctious people. And just to see that
1:36:10 Speaker 01 It's gonna be good.
1:36:11 Speaker 02 Is worth the price.
1:36:13 Speaker 04 I hope so. I hope so.
1:36:14 Speaker 01 And Margot's got money troubles.
1:36:17 Speaker 04 Yes, I produced that.
1:36:18 Speaker 01 Yes, yes, yes, on its way.
1:36:19 Speaker 04 Yes, with Elle and the darling Michelle.
1:36:22 Speaker 01 Oh my god, we didn't even talk about the beguiled.
1:36:24 Speaker 02 We didn't talk about the beguiled.
1:36:25 Speaker 01 Bring me the axe.
1:36:25 Speaker 02 Bring me
1:36:26 Speaker 01 No, no, no, bring me the, the, no, bring me the anatomy book.
1:36:29 Speaker 02 The anatomy book.
1:36:30 Speaker 01 Okay, the, start the episode again. No, the best. My producer's like, we gotta go, she's gotta go to her premiere of Scarpetta.
1:36:39 Speaker 04 Oh, miss the premiere, cuz I
1:36:41 Speaker 01 It'll be all about the beguiled.
1:36:43 Speaker 02 And bring me the anatomy book.
1:36:44 Speaker 04 I'm coming back. You gotta ask me back.
1:36:45 Speaker 02 Anytime.
1:36:46 Speaker 01 And every episode
1:36:47 Speaker 04 You gotta have Laura Rees and I back.
1:36:48 Speaker 01 Oh, no, please, don't threaten us. All right, he Ken Rizzo's Hey, we end every episode with a song.
1:36:57 Speaker 01 Come what may. We're both you in. Come what may. You were really you in there. I will love you until my dying.
1:37:12 Speaker 01 Day. We love that throaty belt you in.
1:37:17 Speaker 02 Let's get Nicole out.
1:37:18 Speaker 01 Okay.
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