Pod Insights Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang “Oh, Look! Spider-Man!” (w/ Kristen Wiig) About this episode It's a momentous day! Kristen Wiig has joined the sisters to talk about some very important topics. They get into working at SNL and the best fake names to come out of there, Kristen's time at Universal Studios and the Joe Schmo show, playing Robyn at the Culture awards, the legendary Annie, Grease, and so much more! Plus IDTSH's circling squeegies, thumbs, and overwhelming chip flavors. Get into it!
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1:32 Speaker 00 Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Oh, and look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling. Now, where'd you just come from?
1:46 Speaker 01 I just came from my dressing room at SNL. Today was my actual last day, so I had to sneak in there. We're about to go to Japan. Everyone is back at work from hiatus. Everyone's going back today for Monday pitch, but I had to really sneak in there before everyone came back, clean, clearing out my stuff. Lot of wonderful detritus, but the biggest thing for me was this-
2:13 Speaker 00 What's this?
2:13 Speaker 01 Original wig mold.
2:16 Speaker 01 From the hair department and a little note from Jodie Mancuso, the Emmy winning Jodie Mancuso to my bow and until next time, love Jodie!
2:23 Speaker 00 Oh my god!
2:24 Speaker 01 This is my head.
2:25 Speaker 00 When you host one day, you have to bring this back.
2:27 Speaker 01 I guess so, but no, this is going in my, this is...
2:30 Speaker 00 Yeah, this is...
2:31 Speaker 01 This has a spot, you know, I, cause I have a little like head, like a hat stand in my apartment, right?
2:35 Speaker 00 Yes, of course.
2:36 Speaker 01 This is the new hat stand.
2:37 Speaker 00 This is perfect for a hat stand because it's your head already.
2:40 Speaker 01 It's absolutely...
2:41 Speaker 00 Oh my gosh, and is this, was this where bow and is this where your face would go?
2:44 Speaker 01 That's where, let's see.
2:46 Speaker 00 Face and eyes?
2:47 Speaker 01 I just wanna say face and eyes, well, I think this is more...
2:49 Speaker 00 The eyes are the eyes of the face.
2:51 Speaker 01 I should get this tattooed on, like, right here.
2:54 Speaker 00 That would be really good.
2:55 Speaker 01 It would be nice, anyway.
2:56 Speaker 00 And then you start a music career.
2:58 Speaker 01 And then I started a music career, so, but this was all beautifully coincidental because...
3:02 Speaker 00 Isn't it?
3:03 Speaker 01 It is, and actually, a lot of things about this are kismet-y because I went in, today was like the last day to do it,
3:11 Speaker 01 and then our guest was coming in today, and I was like, oh, wait a minute, and then as I walked to this building, coming out of her gorgeous motorcade, many cars.
3:21 Speaker 00 Many cars?
3:22 Speaker 01 Uh, it was, it was just one, but coming out of her car was our guest and it was, she was in a gorgeous faux fur! And...
3:31 Speaker 00 Faux!
3:31 Speaker 01 It felt, it felt truly...
3:33 Speaker 00 Vultures.
3:34 Speaker 01 It felt so... So perfect, you know?
3:37 Speaker 00 Kismet.
3:37 Speaker 01 Kismet, and then so many things about the guests are perfect.
3:41 Speaker 00 I recently got to have some high jinks with the guest. I would describe our sort of cavorting as Scooby Doo-esque on the new season of Palm Royale.
3:50 Speaker 01 Oh my god, I've always wanted to do a stakeout, you got to do multiple stakeouts, like behind a hedge, in a car.
3:54 Speaker 00 It was wish fulfillment.
3:56 Speaker 01 You got, you were up to high jinks and your ass was up to high cheeks.
4:02 Speaker 00 Damn, thank you so much!
4:03 Speaker 01 There were, there were a lot of great, Palm Royale, season two, episode seven?
4:07 Speaker 00 Yeah.
4:08 Speaker 01 You gotta real, this director really loves. I believe the creator of the show.
4:13 Speaker 00 I will say, it's Abe Sylvia.
4:15 Speaker 01 It's Abe Sylvia, the legend.
4:16 Speaker 00 Who was responsible for this. Frames the male asses in the show with a, an attention to detail that I would only describe as gay.
4:24 Speaker 01 Heated rivalry-esque.
4:25 Speaker 00 Yes, and I would say that there's clearly a gay guy in charge of the show.
4:29 Speaker 01 Oh, we need that.
4:29 Speaker 00 And behind the camera and writing the scripts and thank God. And actually I told him, I was like, from one gay guy to another, congratulations.
4:36 Speaker 01 Congratulations.
4:37 Speaker 00 This is a gay guy's show and I am so like happy. I mean, I was watching the episode and just has the best cast of all time.
4:44 Speaker 01 It's perfect.
4:45 Speaker 00 By the way, you can stream all of it now on Apple TV plus and get.
4:48 Speaker 01 They dropped the plus, they dropped the plus.
4:50 Speaker 00 Oh, Apple TV is, is, is, there's no plus?
4:52 Speaker 01 There's no plus anymore.
4:53 Speaker 00 That doesn't mean, it's anything less. Just because they've lost their plus doesn't mean they're not a plus.
4:58 Speaker 01 Yes.
4:59 Speaker 00 They're just Apple TV plus, still Abe, anyways.
5:02 Speaker 01 Anyways.
5:03 Speaker 00 I'm bailing on this. We love ya.
5:05 Speaker 01 We love you Abe Sylvia. Abe Sylvia, a great, uh, two first names name.
5:10 Speaker 00 Oh, yes Sylvia, sneaking in there with a last name that's a woman's last name most of the time.
5:16 Speaker 01 Most of the time, not always.
5:18 Speaker 00 Um, but I will say, um, there's, there's congratulations in order because we are sitting here with an actor award nominee.
5:26 Speaker 01 Newly men, newly renamed actor award nominee.
5:29 Speaker 00 And that is a big fucking deal and I have to say, I'm not surprised at all because I don't think there's a person in this biz who's more, who elicits a more emphatic, like excited, joyful response than the even idea of our guest showing up. And she has shown up here today, a true pal, a true talent and more. Please do yourself, us and more a favor by clapping hands like this as in the ways of the seal. And, and exalting.
6:04 Speaker 00 The presence of our one and only guest, Kristen Wiig.
6:10 Speaker 02 Oh God, it's so hard to be quiet in the beginning.
6:12 Speaker 00 It's hard to be quiet at all.
6:14 Speaker 02 Oh, I have to turn away and do little side giggles?
6:16 Speaker 00 Yeah, listen, giggle forward from now on. Giggle forward, giggle forward.
6:21 Speaker 01 Hi, Joanne, congrats.
6:22 Speaker 02 Thank you, thank you. I'm happy to be here and I know that feeling.
6:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
6:27 Speaker 02 Of cleaning out that room.
6:29 Speaker 01 What was it like? Do you remember that, that moment for you? And I was gonna ask, what was your dressing room? Which one was it?
6:36 Speaker 02 I think it's the one Sarah's in now.
6:38 Speaker 00 Oh, that's a good one. Good energy in that one. Go upstairs.
6:42 Speaker 02 There's the bathroom and I think it's the first one on the left.
6:44 Speaker 01 Yes.
6:44 Speaker 00 Oh my God.
6:46 Speaker 01 That was a little bit of a party dressing room, I find, because of the way it's located.
6:49 Speaker 02 It was when I was there as well.
6:51 Speaker 01 Well, I'm sure.
6:51 Speaker 02 Yes. And cleaning out my office was hard.
6:54 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
6:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, because you go and you don't do it when everyone's there.
7:01 Speaker 01 So it's haunted.
7:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, and you're like, come in with a box.
7:04 Speaker 01 Right.
7:05 Speaker 02 You fill it up and then no one's there and you're just like, goodbye, building.
7:09 Speaker 01 Well, I said bye to the security guards and that was nice.
7:12 Speaker 02 Yes, yes.
7:12 Speaker 01 That was very sweet of them. Come back soon, Bo. And I was like, yeah. Come back soon, Bo. It's all these, it's all these seven foot tall.
7:19 Speaker 02 I love them all.
7:20 Speaker 01 Jersey guys.
7:20 Speaker 02 And they've been there forever and, oh, you just feel so safe.
7:24 Speaker 01 Protected.
7:24 Speaker 00 They're incredible. Also, the one icon is Monae Exchange's brother.
7:30 Speaker 01 Brother, Sean, the best.
7:31 Speaker 00 Unbelievable.
7:32 Speaker 01 Unbelievable. I, but it also felt like so beautiful and perfect. The perfect period on it was running into you and I just have to say that, yeah, you were, you were the first, you were the first alum to impart something to me, which was, enjoy the job while you can because you'll miss it every day afterwards and it's the funnest job in the world. And I was like, yes, Kristen Wiig.
7:58 Speaker 02 It's fun.
7:58 Speaker 01 It's fun. Yeah.
7:59 Speaker 02 And I think it's so easy to like over, especially because of the nature of the show. It's like you don't know what you're doing ever. And like you could have a sketch that works a dress and it doesn't work. There's so much like letting go. So it's just like, oh, it's just, you know, not to say it can't be stressful at times, but it's so fun.
8:19 Speaker 01 Yeah. So fun. When you boil it down, you're.
8:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're just like being dumb.
8:24 Speaker 01 And I want to give a moment to, and I told Matt this this morning. I think we need to dedicate some time to the great James Anderson.
8:35 Speaker 02 I could talk about James Anderson for the whole.
8:37 Speaker 01 This is the literal place. And the great Tensublat, like that duo.
8:41 Speaker 02 Yes.
8:41 Speaker 01 But like individually, they are perfect, but together they were, they were perfect. I think they were your, so these two writers at SNL, your, your, I think collaborators as well.
8:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:50 Speaker 01 I got to overlap with them.
8:52 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:52 Speaker 01 And James, oh, boy. Names, just, just on a names level. Beginnings Chang.
8:59 Speaker 02 A name.
9:00 Speaker 01 Yeah. Were you Beginnings Chang or no, that was Maya. That was Maya. Beginnings Chang. Beginnings Chang. Non Asian.
9:07 Speaker 02 Wait, and what was Keenan's name in, uh, in What Up With That?
9:12 Speaker 01 Oh, um, um, um, no, Treese is the one who sings like.
9:19 Speaker 02 You get the idea.
9:20 Speaker 01 You get the idea, but, um, but. Latista Stroh was Amy Poehler's name.
9:25 Speaker 02 Oh, my God.
9:26 Speaker 01 My, I was blessed with a James name once. Latony Garage. And I was a songwriter for Keenan and Scarlett Johansson's Christmas Elves, who sang like Christmas pop songs. Latony Garage.
9:37 Speaker 02 And to back it up with Garage.
9:39 Speaker 01 Latony Garage. And then he, he wrote me, I think, sorry to every other writer, including myself, my favorite line I've ever said on that show. I can say that now in posterity, which was as Latony Garage coming up and saying,
9:53 Speaker 01 this song was an homage to my mother, the mother of the house, Miss Buffet Stiles. Yeah. It was written at 5 a.m. when I was skiing with Miss Connie. See what I'm saying? The snow that goes up, Thunder Stand, the snorty snow. I'm talking about cracray.
10:13 Speaker 01 I have that in my bones.
10:15 Speaker 02 Of course you do.
10:16 Speaker 01 How do you let that go?
10:17 Speaker 02 That should be done in schools for auditions.
10:21 Speaker 00 If you're not using that as your monologue to get into NYU Tisch, you're not getting into NYU Tisch. You're not getting into Yale Drama School. You don't have a future.
10:29 Speaker 02 And even now, watching, you're just like, I know, I have that James.
10:32 Speaker 01 That's James.
10:33 Speaker 02 Kent did that.
10:34 Speaker 01 Kent did that.
10:35 Speaker 00 How often do you watch right now?
10:38 Speaker 02 I will say not as much now with, with the children.
10:41 Speaker 01 Well, yes, because there's like a contingent of alums who like, like Tina and Amy seem to watch it like every week.
10:47 Speaker 02 Yes.
10:48 Speaker 01 And they're like, oh, that must have moved down from air like, or from dress like, like they're, they're, they're like talking shop about it.
10:53 Speaker 02 Watching later, but like a, a, actual Saturday night, I haven't done that in a, in a long time.
11:00 Speaker 01 No problem.
11:01 Speaker 02 With my little children.
11:03 Speaker 00 What are you watching with the kids? What's their favorite show?
11:06 Speaker 01 Gabby's Playhouse.
11:06 Speaker 00 Do they love Ms. Rachel? Are they just a little old for Ms. Rachel?
11:10 Speaker 02 Wait, what's Ms. Rachel?
11:11 Speaker 01 Gabby's Dollhouse?
11:12 Speaker 02 Oh, Ms. Rachel. Yes, yes, yes, yes. They've seen Ms. Rachel.
11:15 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:16 Speaker 02 Gabby's Dollhouse. Um, they love some Paw Patrol.
11:20 Speaker 00 Yeah.
11:21 Speaker 02 They love, they love Wild Kratts.
11:23 Speaker 01 They do. What the hell is Wild Kratts?
11:25 Speaker 02 Wild Kratts? Where should I look?
11:28 Speaker 00 Well, tell them.
11:29 Speaker 01 Tell, tell them.
11:30 Speaker 02 Well, it's these two guys, the Krat Brothers, and they talk about an animal. I, I don't really.
11:36 Speaker 01 The Krat Brothers?
11:36 Speaker 02 I don't watch with them.
11:39 Speaker 01 But you know enough to know it's not going to harm the children.
11:42 Speaker 02 It's not going to harm. They, they, they take an animal, start studying the animal, and then they turn animated and, oh my God, I can't pitch this show. Then they, they're animated with the animated animal.
11:52 Speaker 01 Yeah. You know what though? What, what's important is it makes sense to them.
11:55 Speaker 02 Then they come out.
12:01 Speaker 02 Here, here's what it is. Here's what it is. I turn on Wild Kratts.
12:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:04 Speaker 02 I make sure it's set up.
12:05 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:06 Speaker 02 And then oftentimes I don't stay.
12:09 Speaker 01 No, you're not staying.
12:10 Speaker 02 So.
12:10 Speaker 01 Why would you stay?
12:11 Speaker 02 And then I'll come back in and be like, oh, so you learned about lemurs?
12:15 Speaker 01 Yeah. Cause they're 16 years old.
12:17 Speaker 02 Who?
12:17 Speaker 01 Both of your children.
12:20 Speaker 00 You go off and you watch something adult. You were saying earlier, your favorite shows are NCIS, every franchise.
12:26 Speaker 02 Every single one. I fall asleep to just murder.
12:31 Speaker 00 Adult stuff.
12:32 Speaker 02 Adults. No, I can't watch those shows.
12:33 Speaker 00 Me neither. I can't be stressed before bed.
12:35 Speaker 02 I'm too sensitive.
12:36 Speaker 00 Unless it's women arguing as we know.
12:38 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
12:38 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
12:38 Speaker 00 Well, we're all big into Housewives.
12:41 Speaker 02 I can't do like murder. I can't do scary movies. I can't do anything dark. It stays in my brain. I'm too sensitive.
12:47 Speaker 01 You two are kindreds for sure.
12:48 Speaker 02 I'm an HSP for sure.
12:50 Speaker 00 I can't even do something stressful. You know what I'm dying to watch?
12:54 Speaker 02 Like a baking show?
12:55 Speaker 00 Like, do you find those to be the stressed, most stressful programming?
12:58 Speaker 02 Well, sometimes I'm like, oh, the Ganache isn't dry or whatever. I don't know. I don't bake.
13:05 Speaker 00 I think Vanessa hosts the baking show.
13:08 Speaker 01 Bayer?
13:09 Speaker 00 Yes.
13:09 Speaker 02 She did host something. Yes. And Casey Wilson hosts, uh, yes, the celebrity.
13:14 Speaker 01 Oh, that's such a dream.
13:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any, any competition?
13:19 Speaker 01 He's done it. He's hosted.
13:19 Speaker 02 I feel bad for the people who.
13:21 Speaker 01 I know.
13:21 Speaker 00 It's sad. I hosted a dog grooming competition show called Hot Dog, like Hot Couture.
13:27 Speaker 01 That is no longer on Max.
13:29 Speaker 00 You may not watch it.
13:30 Speaker 01 It's beyond Max.
13:30 Speaker 02 Okay.
13:31 Speaker 00 It was, it was, it was removed.
13:32 Speaker 02 It's erased from the internet?
13:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
13:35 Speaker 02 Wow.
13:35 Speaker 00 It's completely gone. It was me, Robin Feedy and Jess Rona.
13:39 Speaker 01 Zaslov said, not for me.
13:41 Speaker 00 He said, this is not good.
13:42 Speaker 02 Wow.
13:43 Speaker 00 These dogs should look like dogs, not fashion models.
13:45 Speaker 02 Okay.
13:46 Speaker 00 Because one dog, they turned into Lady Gaga. Another dog, they turned into Kate Gosselin.
13:53 Speaker 01 2009 Kate Gosselin.
13:54 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
13:55 Speaker 02 And this was recent?
13:56 Speaker 00 This was pandemic. This, so this, this literally shot, it shot in July 2020. It was the only thing shooting in Los Angeles along with RuPaul's Drag Race. It was Hot Dog and RuPaul's Drag Race. And it was, it was truly, I was like, wow, we shot like two weeks straight, 12 episodes. Put it on. It was like chopped with dog grooming. Heartbreaking.
14:20 Speaker 02 Well, there's your show.
14:21 Speaker 00 Yeah.
14:23 Speaker 01 Chop and talk.
14:23 Speaker 00 And in fact, that was the show.
14:24 Speaker 02 In fact, it was the show. A cooking show. Oh. With.
14:27 Speaker 01 This dog grooming.
14:30 Speaker 02 This and then.
14:31 Speaker 00 You thought you were coming here to be challenged for your dog grooming, but in fact, make us a court on blue.
14:38 Speaker 02 While blow drying this poodle.
14:41 Speaker 01 This poodle.
14:41 Speaker 02 And making them look like.
14:42 Speaker 00 See, you do know how to pitch.
14:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, I have ideas.
14:44 Speaker 01 But wait.
14:45 Speaker 02 I have ideas.
14:45 Speaker 01 You were saying this on Amy's podcast that like, and I relate to this hard, which is that I'm a horrible, horrible storyteller. Like my worst nightmare is explaining.
14:55 Speaker 02 Oh, no, it's my worst.
14:55 Speaker 01 Walking someone through an idea or a narrative and having everyone listen to me while I do it.
15:02 Speaker 02 Bowen, I'm so happy to hear this because do you find people are like, that's not true. I don't believe you because you can do other things.
15:10 Speaker 01 Embellished, yeah.
15:11 Speaker 02 I'm so bad. It's my nightmare to be out to dinner and be like, oh my God, Kristen, tell the thing. And I'm like.
15:21 Speaker 02 Because I, I couldn't even describe Wildcraft.
15:25 Speaker 00 You did, you did.
15:26 Speaker 02 Describe it. I, I kind of described it.
15:28 Speaker 00 It's an avant garde children's show.
15:30 Speaker 02 I'm not good. It's yes.
15:32 Speaker 01 It's an avant garde children's show. Right.
15:34 Speaker 02 And then somehow they come back and then they say, thanks for watching.
15:38 Speaker 00 Yeah.
15:39 Speaker 02 I'm happy to know. I can't even do it.
15:40 Speaker 00 Can I say that I'm happy to know that children's programming is still like a little wacko and surreal because I remember when we were younger and you would, so it was like Disney Channel, which was a little bit more straightforward. And of course this is more like pre teen program I'm talking about, but Nickelodeon, when we were kids, like young, young, it was cracked. The things that would happen in those animated shows like Ren and Stimpy and like.
16:02 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
16:02 Speaker 00 Rocco's Modern Life, like this was.
16:04 Speaker 02 Ren and Stimpy felt adult to me, right?
16:06 Speaker 00 Very much so. Very much so.
16:08 Speaker 02 Was that on in the morning?
16:10 Speaker 00 I think it was on, it wasn't Cartoon Network. I think it was Nickelodeon.
16:13 Speaker 01 It was Nickelodeon.
16:14 Speaker 00 It was Nickelodeon.
16:15 Speaker 02 I remember that being on like in a bar. You know what I mean? Like you'd go into a bar and just like Ren and Stimpy would be playing.
16:20 Speaker 01 That's a cool bar.
16:21 Speaker 00 I remember like Rocco's Modern Life, there was a scene one time where like Rocco got shot out of a cannon and landed thousands of miles away. And like the where he landed was with, with full force into a huge like. Hippopotamus's breasts and the hippo said, how dare you?
16:37 Speaker 01 Well.
16:38 Speaker 00 And that was the humor in the program.
16:40 Speaker 02 I don't even know what to say.
16:43 Speaker 00 There's nothing to say. The only thing to do is, is really react and take it in and then you process at home.
16:48 Speaker 02 Yes. I can't, I let Bluey, I think is really sweet and I'm watching Bluey. Bluey I, I love, but I just kind of, TV is a time for, for mama to rest.
16:58 Speaker 01 Yeah. Mama's resting. She's watching Salt Lake.
17:03 Speaker 01 You were, can you, can you talk about this, that you were the most starstruck at the culture awards, which you were phenomenal in, by the way, I think you're doing that.
17:10 Speaker 02 Thank you for having me and that was such a fun night.
17:13 Speaker 01 Robin, the Riddler's assistant.
17:14 Speaker 02 I didn't quite realize, like, how many of them were gonna be there.
17:22 Speaker 00 Oh, you mean all?
17:23 Speaker 01 All of them.
17:23 Speaker 02 Um, how many, how many of all of them?
17:26 Speaker 00 Touring in Australia with Teresa.
17:27 Speaker 02 Looking down at the seats.
17:30 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:30 Speaker 02 With the names.
17:31 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:33 Speaker 02 I didn't, I, it, cause it's a connection I have with these people.
17:37 Speaker 01 But it's broken the, the barrier.
17:39 Speaker 02 Something I, I didn't wanna cross it.
17:42 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:42 Speaker 02 You know what I mean? Like, I wanna meet them, but I don't wanna meet them.
17:45 Speaker 00 You have to be in the TV, like you say to those people. It's like you, but then what I loved was we got to see all the photos afterwards from the green room and you did get a picture with each and every one of them and which you know made their life.
17:57 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:58 Speaker 02 Of course I did.
17:59 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:01 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:01 Speaker 02 I wanted to, I wanted to meet and greet every one of them.
18:04 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:04 Speaker 02 But I don't wanna ask them questions. I don't wanna know about the show. I don't wanna know who knows what before the things, like I, I don't care what's talked about. I don't, I don't wanna know.
18:15 Speaker 00 Cause you're honoring that. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
18:18 Speaker 01 Because I'm the same way. Like Matt will tell you the, the, this people I'm most starstruck around are the housewives. A.D. Bryant is the same way. She was the same way that night. She was like, I can't believe all of the Salt Lake City women are here.
18:29 Speaker 00 Rena just being around, sort of running, running the whole show was really, and by the way.
18:34 Speaker 02 Made a lot of sense though.
18:35 Speaker 00 Have you started traitors?
18:36 Speaker 02 No, it's the one I haven't started and I, I will.
18:39 Speaker 01 You're gonna love it.
18:40 Speaker 02 Where should I start?
18:41 Speaker 00 I, I think, I'm just gonna tell this to you because now this is gonna come out like shortly, but the thing is like, we now have seen the first three episodes and so everyone out there, this isn't a spoiler.
18:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:51 Speaker 00 Lisa Rena is a traitor.
18:53 Speaker 02 Okay.
18:53 Speaker 00 They've chosen her as a traitor. And it was a euphoric moment for, I think, anyone watching that knows exactly how well they've done in making this decision. But to know that she's gonna be in charge of the gameplay.
19:07 Speaker 02 See, I don't even really know what, it's kinda like they just tap your shoulder, right? And then you're the, here, let's talk about good storytelling.
19:14 Speaker 01 Look at that camera.
19:16 Speaker 00 Say what you think traitors is.
19:19 Speaker 02 No, it's everyone lives in a castle.
19:21 Speaker 00 Hundred percent.
19:22 Speaker 02 And people get chosen to like, kill people.
19:27 Speaker 00 Yes.
19:29 Speaker 01 You're doing great.
19:29 Speaker 02 Nobody knows.
19:30 Speaker 00 No one knows.
19:31 Speaker 02 And even if you are a killer, you pretend like you're not a killer.
19:33 Speaker 00 Yes, that's crucial.
19:35 Speaker 02 And then you kill them by, by, by.
19:39 Speaker 01 With a gun.
19:40 Speaker 00 You write them a letter.
19:41 Speaker 02 Oh, you write them a letter?
19:42 Speaker 01 So if you're, if you're a traitor, you meet in what's called, and this is real, you meet in what's called the turret at night.
19:47 Speaker 00 Pronounced like turret.
19:48 Speaker 01 The turret.
19:49 Speaker 00 By Alan Cumming.
19:50 Speaker 01 By, yes, Scottish icon Alan Cumming. And you watch them deliberate on who to kill.
19:55 Speaker 02 Okay.
19:56 Speaker 01 And then the next morning, at breakfast, everyone shows up, and then the person who doesn't show up at breakfast.
20:00 Speaker 02 Is dead.
20:01 Speaker 01 Everyone's like, ah, it was, it was this person.
20:03 Speaker 00 And then there's, there's also a British and Australian version of the show.
20:07 Speaker 01 Excellent.
20:07 Speaker 00 And, and when people don't come into breakfast the next day and they realize who's murdered, people will often say things like, oh no!
20:16 Speaker 01 And then the.
20:17 Speaker 00 No!
20:18 Speaker 01 The British host is a woman named Claudia.
20:20 Speaker 00 Claudia Winkleman.
20:21 Speaker 01 Claudia Winkleman, who.
20:22 Speaker 00 Who is a Kristen Wiig character.
20:23 Speaker 02 That's a great name.
20:24 Speaker 01 You need to look up Claudia Winkleman.
20:26 Speaker 00 You actually have to.
20:28 Speaker 01 Oh my god, Kristen, you have to.
20:31 Speaker 02 I will.
20:31 Speaker 01 Because she, she, she walks into breakfast like this and goes, the traitors have murdered again! This is a tragedy of Titanic proportions.
20:41 Speaker 00 It's, the traitors are laughing at you. I can hear them laughing. And then Tom Daley from the UK diver got eliminated. And she, she, she, he's, she comes in and announces he's dead and she goes, he won gold for this country. Is that why you're laughing?
20:59 Speaker 01 He won gold for this country. That wasn't enough?
21:02 Speaker 02 That wasn't enough? Oh, no, I need to watch this.
21:04 Speaker 01 It's Kristen.
21:05 Speaker 00 Okay, can I ask you a question? When you went on Ask Harry Styles on The Tonight Show?
21:08 Speaker 02 Yes.
21:09 Speaker 00 You did not know who Harry Styles was?
21:11 Speaker 02 I, no, no, no, I knew who he was, I just didn't know anything about him.
21:14 Speaker 00 You didn't know his thing?
21:15 Speaker 02 Like, I knew, same with when I did, uh,
21:17 Speaker 01 Michael Jordan.
21:18 Speaker 02 Khaleesi or Michael Jordan, like, I know who they are, but I don't know, like...
21:21 Speaker 00 Khaleesi? What are you coming out dressed as tonight? Are you coming out dressed as a?
21:24 Speaker 02 No, I'm myself.
21:25 Speaker 00 You're myself.
21:26 Speaker 02 I'm myself.
21:26 Speaker 01 Perfect.
21:26 Speaker 02 But we're just doing like a little, you know, let's make fun of Kristen.
21:29 Speaker 01 So, speaking of, speaking of, let's make fun of Kristen.
21:33 Speaker 00 She got the after award nomination now, take her down a pad.
21:35 Speaker 01 Take her down a pad.
21:36 Speaker 00 People are soaring too high.
21:38 Speaker 01 Off her pedestal.
21:39 Speaker 00 Get him.
21:40 Speaker 01 We've been dying to ask you this.
21:42 Speaker 02 Oh, my god, what?
21:42 Speaker 01 Because this is a thing that we've quoted in reference for at least, I want to say like seven years now.
21:48 Speaker 02 Oh, my goodness.
21:50 Speaker 01 You told a story on The Late Show with David Letterman.
21:54 Speaker 00 This is a really important moment.
21:55 Speaker 01 About one of your first jobs in LA, being at Universal Studios.
21:58 Speaker 02 Yes.
21:59 Speaker 01 The Park. You started, as I can recall, you started off at the, you just called it the restaurant. You will have to be more specific.
22:07 Speaker 02 Okay.
22:07 Speaker 01 On which restaurant, but we'll get back to that. And then you also told the audience, the world, me, that your other job was that you were playing...
22:20 Speaker 00 A reporter.
22:21 Speaker 01 A reporter on the lower level, trying to get people to come to the X-Men Spider-Man show.
22:27 Speaker 02 The outdoor show.
22:28 Speaker 01 The outdoor, like, stunt show, basically.
22:30 Speaker 02 Which did not have seats, it just had a stage. This is correct.
22:33 Speaker 00 So your job was to corral?
22:35 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:36 Speaker 01 And so, but then you had a microphone that boomed your voice to the entire park.
22:40 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:41 Speaker 01 And so you would say things like, "Come here, come here." Or, our favorite, the thing, the thing that we've been quoting for the past, for the past several years is, "Hey, did you hear that there are mutants on the loose?"
22:56 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:57 Speaker 01 Quote. People would look at you sideways.
23:00 Speaker 00 Our favorite face is this.
23:04 Speaker 02 Okay, so to be clear, I worked at, in the restaurant, at the executive dining room.
23:10 Speaker 00 Oh wow.
23:11 Speaker 02 So I did, yeah.
23:12 Speaker 00 Let's celebrate that.
23:13 Speaker 02 Tray service? Yeah, well, they have, I would take the order and bring drinks. They had food runners. I would bring the dessert. I had the tie, the apron.
23:22 Speaker 00 Very chic.
23:25 Speaker 02 That was a great job.
23:26 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:27 Speaker 02 And then I was like, I want to perform.
23:28 Speaker 00 Yeah, I got to move into the entertainment sector.
23:31 Speaker 02 So I got a job, I auditioned for, they were going to do an improv group.
23:36 Speaker 00 Great, at Universal?
23:37 Speaker 02 Yes, for the park.
23:39 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:39 Speaker 02 Oh. Exactly.
23:42 Speaker 02 Was not thought out well. We did not have a stage. We were walking through the park.
23:51 Speaker 02 Doing improv.
23:52 Speaker 00 Just started doing improv.
23:53 Speaker 02 You realize, doing improv is being somewhere, getting a suggestion. So literally, we would be walking through the park. And we'd be like, hey, can I have a location? And they would be like,
24:08 Speaker 02 Home Depot? And then they would like, walk away. And then we'd start to do a scene about Home Depot, but then other people would walk up and be like, who are these people? I don't know where, what's the game? We would stop in the middle of it. No one's watching who was originally there. We trained, we worked for weeks. And we auditioned for this. We were like, this is our big break. We did it for one day.
24:34 Speaker 00 Improv in the parks lasted one day and they were like.
24:36 Speaker 02 Thank you. We're like, this, what is this? Because we'd be like, walking through. And then you'd see part of the people and they're like, huh, rescuing someone from like, a boat. And people were just like, excuse me, walking through the scene. There was no stage, nothing.
24:53 Speaker 00 So you do know how to tell a story. Look at that.
24:55 Speaker 02 Okay, well, that, okay, well.
24:56 Speaker 00 I'm crying, wait.
24:58 Speaker 02 But then.
24:59 Speaker 00 But then.
25:00 Speaker 02 So they said, they said to me, we are doing this.
25:04 Speaker 00 X-Men show.
25:04 Speaker 02 X-Men show on the lower lot.
25:08 Speaker 02 On the, there's
25:09 Speaker 00 You gotta take ten escalators down.
25:10 Speaker 02 It's the down one.
25:11 Speaker 00 Escalator Palace.
25:12 Speaker 02 You're at the bottom of Universal.
25:13 Speaker 00 You're not.
25:14 Speaker 02 There's another level.
25:15 Speaker 00 There's another depth.
25:15 Speaker 02 That's below.
25:16 Speaker 00 Yeah.
25:16 Speaker 02 It's still outdoors.
25:17 Speaker 00 There's yet more depth.
25:18 Speaker 02 Yet more depth.
25:19 Speaker 00 To Universal Studios Hollywood.
25:20 Speaker 02 There's a stage. And it was a show with, where the X-Men would come out, but I, my name was like, Something Martinez. I think, I did not, this was, they gave me the name. I had a microphone, I was dressed like a newscaster.
25:39 Speaker 00 Doris Martinez.
25:40 Speaker 02 Something like that, something like that. And I came out and they were like, you gotta, you gotta bring the crowd into like the stage.
25:47 Speaker 00 No.
25:48 Speaker 02 But it's just people walking around, so I would have to say like
25:51 Speaker 00 Trying to get on the rides down there.
25:52 Speaker 02 Yes, like, oh, hey, excuse me, hey, hello, my name is, um,
25:55 Speaker 00 Something Martinez.
25:56 Speaker 02 Something Martinez. And like, oh, did you hear there's, there's a mutant on the loose? You guys, come on, it's this, and then I would just like point to the stage and be like, just wait, wait, just wait right here.
26:06 Speaker 02 It was my job to get people to
26:09 Speaker 00 Come stand.
26:09 Speaker 02 Come to the stage.
26:10 Speaker 00 Yeah.
26:11 Speaker 02 And stand there.
26:11 Speaker 00 Stand and wait.
26:12 Speaker 02 And wait, because it was minutes, I had to do this for like minutes. And then, then, then music would start.
26:21 Speaker 00 Mm-hmm. Sure.
26:23 Speaker 02 And Storm and Wolverine, maybe?
26:27 Speaker 00 Yeah. I'm sure he was involved.
26:29 Speaker 02 We're just like
26:31 Speaker 00 He tends to go where the X-Men go.
26:32 Speaker 02 Walking through the park.
26:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
26:34 Speaker 02 Not even on stage yet, just like
26:36 Speaker 00 Improv.
26:37 Speaker 02 And they're holding like a machine that's like supposed to detect
26:40 Speaker 00 Mutants. Crime.
26:41 Speaker 02 Mutants.
26:41 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah, of course.
26:42 Speaker 02 Yes. So then they do that, they'd find like, they'd go up to like a little kid and like
26:46 Speaker 00 You're a mutant.
26:47 Speaker 02 Pretend to do whatever. And then, and then the show's over.
26:53 Speaker 00 And then, that's the show. And then are you out there like, okay, no, you're like, drastic plan.
26:58 Speaker 02 If you're a mutant, like, try to raise this glass, and then the obvious, it's on a pulley, which you could see, and it would go like
27:03 Speaker 00 That's cute, that's really cute.
27:04 Speaker 02 And then people would be like, oh my god, you're a mutant.
27:06 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:06 Speaker 02 And then I had to go
27:08 Speaker 00 A mutant.
27:09 Speaker 02 Then, the end of the show, I had to be like, thanks for coming. Oh my god, it's Spider-Man.
27:19 Speaker 02 And Spider-Man was standing on top of a building. And you know that song by, is it Paramore that's like
27:28 Speaker 00 Oh, Evanescence. Oh, Evanescence. Yes.
27:33 Speaker 02 Spider-Man, Spider-Man.
27:37 Speaker 02 His leg up on the thing.
27:41 Speaker 02 And then it stops.
27:44 Speaker 02 Spider-Man falls off the building into a puffy mattress that you can see.
27:55 Speaker 02 So he's standing on the building like this.
28:02 Speaker 02 And it's like.
28:03 Speaker 00 And the music cuts out?
28:06 Speaker 00 The music cuts out as he lands?
28:07 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:08 Speaker 00 And then it's over?
28:10 Speaker 02 And then it's.
28:12 Speaker 00 You're gonna do it all over again?
28:14 Speaker 02 Everyone walks away.
28:15 Speaker 00 Yeah. And where do you go?
28:17 Speaker 02 Thank you for coming. I go into the guest room thing.
28:20 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:20 Speaker 02 And then I have to come out and do it the next hour. It was like every hour we had to do the show.
28:23 Speaker 00 Oh, my god.
28:24 Speaker 02 Thank you for coming. And then.
28:27 Speaker 00 Now, did you ever find like, did you ever feel like?
28:30 Speaker 02 Everyone just.
28:31 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:31 Speaker 02 Just like walks away. So no music, just like. And then everyone walks away. Is this okay that I'm saying this?
28:37 Speaker 00 No, yes. Did you ever feel like it went well?
28:41 Speaker 02 Yes, oh, for sure.
28:42 Speaker 00 Killed it, got thirty people to watch it.
28:44 Speaker 02 Because by the end of the summer, and this was in the heat of summer.
28:49 Speaker 00 Well, yes.
28:49 Speaker 02 It was so hot. You know, you start to get like loose with it. And the kids who got, they were like so excited. You know, like, oh, my god, I'm in. That was fun.
28:59 Speaker 00 How many people on average would you corral in one show?
29:05 Speaker 02 I mean, in the tens.
29:07 Speaker 00 In the tens is good.
29:09 Speaker 02 Well, people would start to come, like people, because it was a show. It had lights and it had, all the X-Men were up there, you know?
29:16 Speaker 00 Oh, look, Spider-Man is title of app. Oh, look, Spider-Man is the title of episode.
29:20 Speaker 02 Oh, look, Spider-Man.
29:21 Speaker 00 How big was the stage? Was it the size of this rug?
29:25 Speaker 02 No, it was like two rugs.
29:27 Speaker 00 It was like two rugs. For you, all of you at home. It was about two rugs, babe. It was about two rugs.
29:31 Speaker 02 Two rugs.
29:31 Speaker 00 Yeah. But the thing is, I want to say.
29:34 Speaker 02 I loved working at Universal, though.
29:36 Speaker 00 Yeah, I'm sure. It sounds like it was really fun.
29:38 Speaker 02 I worked in a movie studio. It was so fun. I also catered there, so I would like, you know, drive the little golf carts around.
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33:14 Speaker 00 The first time I went on the Universal lot, it was to audition. They were gonna reboot Blind Date. And I auditioned to be the host. And it was like this weird, like, they, driving around on the cart, like, there is like a glamour to it. It's what you always wish for. And I remember thinking the same thing when we were doing Palm Royale on the Warner Brothers lot. I remember we were all in costume. Burbank. And then it was across the street from Abbott Elementary. And they're a great vibe. That whole cast is like incredible. You guys are all incredible. It felt like really, really fun. And then I remember everyone's like in costume, whatever. And then the tram went by and I was like, oh, wow. Like, that was really a cool moment of being on a real lot. And like, the fact that like-
33:58 Speaker 00 It's just, Pomeroyale is like such a realized, like, the costumes are incredible. Every, all the departments are doing, like, such incredible work.
34:06 Speaker 02 Oh, we're so lucky with our departments.
34:07 Speaker 00 And to be able to do that on the lot, coming from, you know, what you started your career doing, that's like really full circle.
34:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, and, and, and being on the lot, like, like you said, there's so many other shows. I think the pit shoot in there, so you see people walking around with like bandages on and like, we're like, oh my god.
34:24 Speaker 00 The pit, Pomeroyale and Abbott Elementary, three different worlds. You can do anything on the lot.
34:28 Speaker 01 You really can. Shoot, let's shoot in LA, everybody.
34:32 Speaker 02 Come on.
34:33 Speaker 01 But that's beautiful. Thank you for giving us more color and detail, because I've been thinking about that. Just you saying, did you hear there are mutants on the loose?
34:40 Speaker 02 There's mutants on the loose. Please just watch the show to figure it out.
34:43 Speaker 00 You gotta figure, no, there's, there's gonna be mutants really soon.
34:46 Speaker 02 Did you hear?
34:47 Speaker 00 There's mutants on the loose. Speaking, but speaking of your early improv.
34:52 Speaker 02 Have you heard?
34:53 Speaker 00 Like, one of the things I've wanted to ask you about for a very long time, and I've never brought up to you, and I don't know if you even know this, but one of my favorite shows in the beginning, like, when I was like, when I first got like a TV in my room and could like post up and watch the show all day, was something called The Joe Schmo Show. And it was on the man, it was, it was on Spike TV.
35:14 Speaker 02 Spike TV?
35:15 Speaker 00 So it was on Spike TV back when this was a thing. I remember I would like, because I was like, had a TV in my room, I was flashing back between like Spike TV and E. Like, remember when Howard Stern was on E at night?
35:26 Speaker 02 Yes.
35:26 Speaker 00 I felt like such like an adult in my room with a TV. I got obsessed with The Joe Schmo Show, and you were on The Joe Schmo Show. Do you want to describe what The Joe Schmo Show was and what your role on it was?
35:40 Speaker 02 Yes, it was a reality show, but it was all improvisers. Um, kind of like the, the jury, the jury duty.
35:51 Speaker 00 Yes.
35:51 Speaker 01 Perfect, perfect.
35:54 Speaker 02 I think I haven't seen it.
35:54 Speaker 00 A hundred percent.
35:55 Speaker 02 But there's one, one guy that thought it was real.
35:59 Speaker 00 Right. He thought he was on a show called Lap of Luxury.
36:01 Speaker 02 Yes.
36:02 Speaker 00 Yeah.
36:02 Speaker 02 And we were all improvisers.
36:05 Speaker 00 Ah.
36:05 Speaker 02 And we had to, yes. And my character, her name was Dr.
36:10 Speaker 00 Dr. Pat.
36:11 Speaker 02 And she was a marriage counselor that was like married like six times or something.
36:14 Speaker 00 She was a marriage counselor that had been married many, many times.
36:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:18 Speaker 00 And I remember you were on the show and it was like, so basically all their job is to like, convince this person that they're in a real reality competition show and he's the only one who's doing it for real. They're all actors playing characters.
36:32 Speaker 02 I was stressed and I, I wouldn't do it again. I, I, I, I love everyone involved.
36:39 Speaker 00 Yeah.
36:40 Speaker 02 But I have my conscience. I felt, I felt bad.
36:43 Speaker 00 Well, basically you had, you felt bad. It's a version of Traitors, by the way. Very much so.
36:48 Speaker 02 Yes.
36:49 Speaker 00 But, but the thing was there was a physical challenge. Oh. Where they were all in sumo wrestling outfits. And Kristen was in a sumo wrestling outfit as Dr. Pat and she was up against the guy who was, you know, the Joe Schmo. The Joe Schmo. And during the competition, he knocked the wind out of you so hard during the sumo wrestling. That you had to go to the hospital and leave the show. What? And I'll never forget, you stayed in character.
37:14 Speaker 02 Yes.
37:14 Speaker 00 While you were knocked out and you said over and over again, oh my. My stars. Oh my stars. Oh my stars.
37:24 Speaker 02 I, because the, the costume, it was one of those sumo things where there's space on the, on the back.
37:29 Speaker 00 And so you're like.
37:30 Speaker 02 So I got, yes. And I got like fully.
37:34 Speaker 00 Whipped.
37:35 Speaker 02 Fully whipped. And I had to go to the hospital.
37:37 Speaker 00 And you stayed in character as Dr. Pat.
37:40 Speaker 02 Fuck it, I'm fucking.
37:43 Speaker 00 You would have been, I would have been in character.
37:45 Speaker 02 Well, no, cause she, she was very nerdy, like didn't swear. Yes.
37:50 Speaker 00 I see. She was like, hi, I'm Dr. Pat. You know what? It was very, Kristen was doing like, like early Kristen, like hello, yes. Yes, yeah. And please like, let me know if you have any problems. I've been married six times, but I have a lot of experience.
38:02 Speaker 02 That is so funny that you watch that show.
38:03 Speaker 00 It was my favorite show.
38:04 Speaker 02 First thing I, in fact, that was the show that I got, uh, that, that's when I left Universal, when I was waiting tables. I was like.
38:14 Speaker 00 I booked.
38:15 Speaker 01 I've made it.
38:16 Speaker 00 No, but those, those jobs are really fucking huge.
38:19 Speaker 02 Cause it was like improvise it, you know, it was like.
38:22 Speaker 00 It was a paying comedy job.
38:23 Speaker 02 It was a paying job for the first time in my life.
38:26 Speaker 00 Yeah.
38:26 Speaker 01 You wouldn't count the walking around doing improv at Universal Studios like the first.
38:29 Speaker 00 I would count it.
38:30 Speaker 01 You did one day.
38:31 Speaker 02 The first time like it was filmed, you know, like, you know.
38:34 Speaker 01 Yes.
38:34 Speaker 02 Yes.
38:34 Speaker 00 This was your TV breakthrough.
38:36 Speaker 01 Yes.
38:36 Speaker 02 That was live.
38:37 Speaker 01 That was live.
38:38 Speaker 02 My performance.
38:38 Speaker 01 Ah, because I, I agree with you. Like I, I totally understand you not wanting to do that today because I watched jury duty and it was like the, first of all, because of all my stars, you staying in character, just give this woman the actor award now.
38:52 Speaker 00 Truly.
38:52 Speaker 01 Already. And I watched jury duty and I was like, I don't know how, especially James Marsden. Like, I don't know how any of these people are like pulling this off. They are incredible. Edie Modica. Oh.
39:02 Speaker 00 Alleged.
39:02 Speaker 01 Love you.
39:03 Speaker 02 No judgment. Like it's, I, I just for me.
39:05 Speaker 01 Couldn't handle it.
39:06 Speaker 02 I'm too sensitive.
39:08 Speaker 01 My nervous system couldn't handle it.
39:09 Speaker 02 I, I can't, my nervous system. Yeah.
39:11 Speaker 01 Yep.
39:12 Speaker 02 Can handle it.
39:12 Speaker 00 And also a little bit like, once you, I felt this way when I was doing the prank calls for L magazine. I was like really nervous. I was like, oh God, I don't want to do this. I'm a very empathetic person. I don't want people to be stressed out. And then like you start and you're like, oh no, I'm too good at it.
39:27 Speaker 01 Ah.
39:28 Speaker 00 That's the thing.
39:29 Speaker 01 Yep.
39:29 Speaker 00 You were good at it. You were Dr. Pat. Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars.
39:34 Speaker 00 Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars.
39:36 Speaker 01 I'll never forget.
39:37 Speaker 02 Oh, that's so funny.
39:38 Speaker 00 And then you got on SNL. What was it? Like a few years after that? Like can't have been super long after that.
39:43 Speaker 02 Ah, yes, years. My time is really bad.
39:46 Speaker 00 I may have been one of the only people that was like, oh my God, that's Dr. Pat.
39:51 Speaker 02 You were the only person.
39:55 Speaker 00 Dr. Pat is the new star of Saturday Night Live.
39:59 Speaker 01 Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. Was, was you being something Martinez helping to pay for Groundlings classes? Or was that not, was that before?
40:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, that I did not have a job. That was.
40:10 Speaker 01 Beautiful.
40:11 Speaker 02 To, to get that job.
40:12 Speaker 01 Yes.
40:12 Speaker 02 Felt like I was, yeah, it was like a working, I was making money and that was. You know, when you're starting out, it was a big deal.
40:21 Speaker 00 Of course. Yeah. Anything, any, anything you can get paid doing that is not a survival job at that point feels like an I made it moment.
40:28 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:29 Speaker 00 Yeah.
40:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
40:30 Speaker 01 Cause I remember our first paycheck. I mean, I have like romantic thoughts of those days.
40:35 Speaker 02 Yes, me too.
40:35 Speaker 01 Because it's like when Matt and I like got our first paycheck from Story Pirates, we were like, this is technically our first.
40:41 Speaker 00 Yep.
40:41 Speaker 01 Paying like comedy.
40:43 Speaker 00 And it was thirty bucks.
40:44 Speaker 02 And you're grateful and you're like, oh, I did it.
40:47 Speaker 00 Yeah.
40:47 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:48 Speaker 00 Yeah, I had, I had a tour guide job in New York that was, that was like on a bus and it was like, it wasn't good money, but I felt like it was all worth it just to even be able to do anything in a way where they were like paying me to do that.
41:03 Speaker 01 While we're reminiscing, let's ask Kristen the question.
41:06 Speaker 00 It's time. Kristen Wiig.
41:09 Speaker 02 Oh.
41:09 Speaker 00 What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
41:12 Speaker 02 Okay, I think, is it okay if I pick a movie?
41:17 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's so more than okay.
41:19 Speaker 02 Well, I have two. A combination of Annie and Grease.
41:23 Speaker 00 Yeah.
41:24 Speaker 02 Because I think Annie for me was like, oh, I wanna do that.
41:29 Speaker 00 Yes.
41:30 Speaker 02 Why didn't I get to audition for this?
41:32 Speaker 00 Yeah.
41:33 Speaker 02 Even though I've never acted in my life.
41:34 Speaker 00 It's too late.
41:35 Speaker 02 It's too late.
41:36 Speaker 00 I'll never be Annie.
41:37 Speaker 02 Adult Annie, could I pitch that?
41:38 Speaker 01 I think, yes, I was just gonna say.
41:42 Speaker 02 And then Grease for me, I have, I have a love for Olivia Newton-John though. Never leave me. Um, there was something about the, the high school aspect of it. What high school could be John Travolta.
42:01 Speaker 01 So handsome.
42:02 Speaker 02 And then her, obviously, don't just change your identity for a man.
42:08 Speaker 01 Totally.
42:09 Speaker 02 That's not really the lesson, but there was something about her becoming this like sexual.
42:18 Speaker 02 Thing and not giving a shit.
42:21 Speaker 00 Yeah.
42:21 Speaker 02 That I was like, I just love that was the ending of that movie. If that makes sense. And I, I love musicals. I love when everyone's getting up and singing together and dancing and like, it just makes me so happy. And I imagine what it's like on the set with everyone like rehearsing and even SNL, when we would do like dance stuff, those rehearsals, like that is, I live for that stuff. I love that stuff.
42:46 Speaker 00 Yeah.
42:46 Speaker 02 And yeah, I don't know if this is a good answer or not, but I just remember that, that Annie and Grease, both musicals, both stories about, you know, people wanting something more and singing about it. There was just something about that, that I was like, I, I don't know. I just, I realized how much entertainment could like affect me. And, and I think that's, that's for sure. Even though I didn't want to look at it, that was the seed that was planted. I was like, I want to do this.
43:14 Speaker 00 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
43:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:16 Speaker 01 Because there's stories about these women and girls who want to be a part of something that they didn't realize was available to them.
43:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, and they want love.
43:25 Speaker 01 And they want love.
43:26 Speaker 02 I don't know. I just, and don't we all?
43:28 Speaker 01 And don't we all?
43:29 Speaker 00 And don't we all?
43:30 Speaker 01 I'm going to bring him into this. Isn't Lorneo kind of like a Daddy Warbucks?
43:33 Speaker 02 A hundred percent. Yes.
43:35 Speaker 01 And we're all, we're all little orphans.
43:36 Speaker 02 Yes. Have you said that before?
43:39 Speaker 01 No.
43:40 Speaker 02 Cause that's very, that's a very.
43:41 Speaker 01 Let's put that out there.
43:42 Speaker 00 Have you said that to him? Cause I'm sure he would really like to hear it. Lorneo, you're kind of like a Daddy Warbucks.
43:48 Speaker 01 You're like Daddy Warbucks. Well, I don't know about that. Well, I don't know about Daddy Warbucks.
43:51 Speaker 02 I mean, you do feel like a bunch of kids that live together when you're on that show.
43:56 Speaker 01 Totally, totally. And it is like a, let's go to the movies.
43:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, let's put on a show.
44:00 Speaker 01 Let's put on a show.
44:01 Speaker 02 Yeah, I just, oh.
44:02 Speaker 01 Was let's go to the movies not in the staged version of Annie? That was just in the, in like the eighties.
44:07 Speaker 00 Oh God, I don't know.
44:08 Speaker 02 I think so. I, I know there were songs that weren't.
44:12 Speaker 01 In the original show. It's been a long time since I've seen him. When was the last time you saw Annie?
44:16 Speaker 02 Ooh, I've seen like clips of it recently.
44:19 Speaker 00 It's been a minute for me.
44:20 Speaker 02 But I haven't watched it from the very, very beginning.
44:22 Speaker 00 You must truly trip being around Carol Burnett so much.
44:26 Speaker 02 By the way, her performance in that.
44:29 Speaker 00 Oh, Oscar worthy.
44:30 Speaker 02 When I think about what, what she read and then what she did.
44:33 Speaker 00 Did.
44:34 Speaker 02 And knowing her now, like I, I mean, you got to.
44:38 Speaker 00 I got exactly, uh, probably two minutes with her and we took a picture because I was in drag as her. And Abe was like, I just, Abe, Abe was like, who's the creator of the show was like, she is going to get a kick out of this. She's like, and I remember he was like, can you stay in costume for like a couple hours while she gets here? And I was just like, I would do anything for her.
44:59 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:59 Speaker 00 And so it was like, there was like the mustache and all the stuff I had, the prosthetic stuff underneath her whole costume. But I was like, I will sit here for three days waiting for her to come because she is beyond a queen.
45:12 Speaker 02 And lovely and looks right in your eyes and says, hold your hand.
45:16 Speaker 00 Just so great.
45:17 Speaker 02 Yep.
45:17 Speaker 00 And so I was thinking like, what you're saying is so true. She's an inventor.
45:21 Speaker 01 Yes.
45:22 Speaker 00 Like it goes beyond contributions. It is, it is why we are able to contribute. Because of, you know, people like her.
45:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, I agree. And as a woman, the first show.
45:34 Speaker 00 It's like her, it's Cher who just blooms large.
45:37 Speaker 01 They invented like the stand and deliver, look amazing in a fucking Bob Mackie dress.
45:43 Speaker 02 And do it your way. Yeah.
45:46 Speaker 00 Oh, Carol, I can't believe it.
45:48 Speaker 02 I know. I just love her. I love her so much.
45:50 Speaker 00 She's, and you know, just like the, the whole, the whole like, um, idea that, you know, she's become like, obviously the antagonist of the show. And like gets to do this whole.
46:01 Speaker 02 She's like the nicest person in the world and she plays someone so awful.
46:05 Speaker 00 You can tell. Do you believe in that though? It's like, I, I think it was Tina actually who said like, when she was trying to cast Regina George, she was like, we need to find the nicest person in the world to come in and do this because it is truly kind people that understand and are able to walk away from and go in and out and see.
46:21 Speaker 01 What cruelty does.
46:22 Speaker 00 Evil and cruelty from different interesting dimensions because it's not something they're embodying. It's something they're exploring.
46:29 Speaker 01 Oh.
46:29 Speaker 02 Wise woman.
46:30 Speaker 01 Wise woman.
46:31 Speaker 02 Always.
46:31 Speaker 01 Miss T Faye.
46:32 Speaker 02 Wow.
46:32 Speaker 00 Too wise.
46:33 Speaker 01 Too wise. And then on the Grease thing, it's like, Sandra Dee turning into Sandy is like, that is the fantasy for every, not just like girls, but like everybody. Like especially for like gay guys. It's like you watch Grease and like, yeah, Danny, great. But I'm like, it's Sandra and it's Rizzo. But it's like, it's like, it's just.
46:54 Speaker 00 I was gonna say, let's put some respect on Stockard's name.
46:56 Speaker 01 We gotta, we gotta, we love Stockard.
46:58 Speaker 00 Every time.
46:59 Speaker 01 But just that, that's such a fucking good ensemble. And so was Annie, obviously. But like, I totally get it, man. Like, I'm just watching Grease for the first time. Yeah, I felt something.
47:09 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think it's one of those things, like when it's on, do you find you know every line of dialogue?
47:14 Speaker 02 A hundred.
47:14 Speaker 01 It's crazy.
47:15 Speaker 02 Kind of like sexy.
47:17 Speaker 01 Sexy.
47:18 Speaker 02 You know, when Rizzo and, and Kinnicky are doing their thing.
47:21 Speaker 00 Kinnicky from Kinnicky.
47:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
47:24 Speaker 01 Hot and Heav.
47:24 Speaker 02 Hot and Heav.
47:25 Speaker 01 Summer 11, it's like, wait, they're talking about.
47:28 Speaker 00 Well, well, well, huh?
47:30 Speaker 02 I mean, Grease Lightning?
47:31 Speaker 00 Oh, that's a whole, that's a whole text. Grease Wag, Grease, Grease Wagon. Grease Lightning.
47:39 Speaker 00 Grease Wagon.
47:41 Speaker 01 And they're like, hey, you said Grease Wagon again?
47:42 Speaker 02 That was the original version when they were gonna have a station wagon and just.
47:46 Speaker 00 Well, it's Grease Wagon.
47:49 Speaker 01 Danny.
47:51 Speaker 00 My high school wouldn't do Grease.
47:54 Speaker 02 Because it was so.
47:55 Speaker 00 We had a conservative superintendent.
47:57 Speaker 02 Yep.
47:59 Speaker 00 We had a very conservative superintendent.
48:02 Speaker 01 West Side Story?
48:02 Speaker 00 No. So what we did was, we did all these like very racially problematic shows. We did The King and I, we did The Wiz.
48:09 Speaker 02 Okay.
48:10 Speaker 00 Like all these things that everyone, even then in like 2005 was like, hey.
48:15 Speaker 01 We don't know about that.
48:15 Speaker 00 I don't know if Tina, like this girl I knew can be doing this thing she's doing in, like this part of The King and I. Like, I just don't know. But absolutely those were totally above board without question. And what we could not do was Grease Wagon.
48:34 Speaker 02 Wondering what they're doing now.
48:36 Speaker 00 And you know what? I think that superintendent retired and then suddenly they were doing Grease. And I was like, well.
48:42 Speaker 02 That superintendent's doing grease.
48:45 Speaker 00 Whatever he is.
48:46 Speaker 01 Wherever he is.
48:46 Speaker 00 I hope he's doing grease. Hey, do grease. It's the new kick rocks.
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52:30 Speaker 00 What I've always appreciated, because I think it's awesome that you, like, and I can recognize the music in you, because what I've loved about, about you always, but especially like your tenure at SNL, is it felt like all the female cast members at that time were very musical. And I remember, Santa's my boyfriend. And like, that was, I believe, you, Amy and Maya. But then, you know. Like Kate was musical, eighties musical, Cecily is very musical.
53:00 Speaker 02 Abby, Abby Elliott.
53:02 Speaker 00 Abby Elliott, Casey. You know what I mean? Like on and on and on and on. But it just felt like a really good like musical time because it felt like it was all of your genuine interest. Like I would imagine, obviously those things don't happen and you as well. You know what I mean? Like you're always bringing music to the show like and you're so capable of doing it. But I, as a fan of the show and a fan of musical comedy, was always so happy that people that loved music and really wanted to perform in that way were on the show because it gives it a whole other dimension, I think.
53:30 Speaker 01 Totally. You know who oftentimes like bringing those pieces together were these straight boy kings, Colin Jost and John Mulaney? Like they were just like, because they like musicals too, luckily. And then they just like, they like, they're like, okay, and you know, Kristen can do this. And like for me, they'd be like, can you sing like suddenly Seymour? And I was like, sure. And like, it's just, they just know how to like position everybody in that way.
53:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, I agree.
53:53 Speaker 01 But I agree about that.
53:54 Speaker 02 And it's fun to have that in the show, like to have that one little special thing. Even watching now, it's like, oh, I bet they like rehearse this and like did their little dancing.
54:02 Speaker 00 Taryn too.
54:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
54:03 Speaker 00 And Vanessa.
54:04 Speaker 02 Yes.
54:05 Speaker 00 Like everyone was always committing to
54:06 Speaker 02 Totally.
54:07 Speaker 00 whatever it is they were being, that was just like, when Seth was on, we said this, but like, that was such a peak cast. Like I tell everyone that I, I believe I told you this, but I was at the episode, which was Anne Hathaway and the Killers. This was the very first, I was there in the audience.
54:24 Speaker 02 Yes, yes.
54:24 Speaker 00 And it was the very first time you ever did the Lawrence Welk Show. And I remember at the end, the Killers did like a, um, an encore.
54:30 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
54:31 Speaker 00 Seth said it was the only time that the studio audience stood up and gave a standing ovation. And I was in the audience and I remember that felt like such a, I don't think I've ever felt the way that I felt watching you do Lawrence Welk.
54:43 Speaker 02 Oh, my gosh.
54:44 Speaker 00 No, truly. I mean, I think it altered the course of my life and so many people watching. That didn't have to be in the room in the vicinity, but like, that was a very special cast and that was a very special sketch and series of sketches and a moment in culture because it was 2008 at the time as well, like.
55:01 Speaker 01 And other, other fun details that you were sitting next to?
55:04 Speaker 02 Emma Stone. You told me this. Yes, that is crazy.
55:07 Speaker 00 Wild. But like, what do you remember about that time?
55:11 Speaker 02 Honestly, like, career wise, like, best years of my life?
55:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
55:17 Speaker 02 Hands down.
55:18 Speaker 01 Hmm.
55:19 Speaker 02 Hands down. Cause you know, you're, it's like you, you move in with these people. And then seven years later, you, you pack up your room and then you have to move somewhere else. But you do feel like you are in living with them. The time in between sketches, like, there'd be a day you'd have to rehearse at nine AM and you'd look at the rundown and you don't have to rehearse again until like four and you're secretly like, and then you look and see who else is off. And you all go hang out.
55:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
55:48 Speaker 02 And you're just like, oh, it was just, it was the best time. Because I think too, feeling okay to fail was something that I had to, that's hard to do. I, I feel that way now in, in my life, to be totally honest.
56:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
56:08 Speaker 02 But having that read through, writing something and you're like, this? No one's gonna laugh at this.
56:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
56:15 Speaker 02 This is gonna be totally silent, but it's okay. Cause you're looking around the room.
56:20 Speaker 01 Hmm.
56:21 Speaker 02 At hater and like all of these people and everyone's got things at work. Everyone's got things that don't. And you realize like, oh, that's just part of like, figuring out what, what will get on or what is funny. And to be able to have a space where you can go and not do a good job and feel okay is so rare.
56:45 Speaker 01 Oh my God.
56:46 Speaker 02 Do you know what I mean?
56:46 Speaker 01 Of course.
56:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
56:48 Speaker 01 And I, I kind of, I kind of embrace the times. It's funnier to sort of, it's more of a bonding experience to fail and bomb at that show.
56:57 Speaker 02 A hundred percent.
56:58 Speaker 01 Cause Celeste and I will, and Sudhi and I will just like laugh, oh my God, remember that fucking sketch and how it was silent?
57:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
57:05 Speaker 01 Like, there's something, there's like, there's like a crucible you walk through in that moment, but like, I, I, how often would you feel like you were reading something before a read through and like, no one's gonna laugh at this? Cause I, cause I, cause you.
57:17 Speaker 02 Oh, every time.
57:18 Speaker 01 Really?
57:18 Speaker 02 Oh my God. I would never read something and be like, this is gonna kill.
57:22 Speaker 01 Sure, sure.
57:23 Speaker 02 Cause you never know.
57:24 Speaker 01 You never know.
57:24 Speaker 02 Because I think that's the other thing you learn. You can write something and be like, I think this has a shot and it's
57:30 Speaker 01 It's no.
57:31 Speaker 02 And then there's the one where you try to pull it and they're like, sorry, it's already in the pack. And it's on the show.
57:38 Speaker 01 And it's on the show.
57:39 Speaker 02 The one that you're doing. You have, I have no gauge.
57:41 Speaker 01 Yup.
57:42 Speaker 02 I have no, yeah.
57:45 Speaker 01 It's completely unpredictable because it can go through whatever, it can hit any station and land and be the, be at the terminus of any path where it's like, it does great at read through, it does terrible at blocking, it does great at dress, it does poorly at air.
58:01 Speaker 02 It has had all that.
58:03 Speaker 01 It, it has, there's every permutation of that thing happens at various stages. Like my therapist and I talk about this, it's like, you have so many occasions for like validation or rejection and failure. And it teaches you a lot about like how the world works, I want to say.
58:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
58:20 Speaker 01 But I'm so surprised at this because I feel like you and Amy were talking about this on her pod where it's like, and what is true, and I think you know this and I hope you own this, it's like you were, I think you were the, you were the cast member to come in fully formed, fully realized with the point of view already.
58:37 Speaker 02 I mean, I don't feel that way.
58:39 Speaker 01 That's interesting.
58:40 Speaker 02 Only because I learned so much and I remember, cause I auditioned twice.
58:45 Speaker 01 Yeah.
58:46 Speaker 02 And I remember when they had me come back for the second one, I was like,
58:49 Speaker 01 What do you mean?
58:50 Speaker 02 I'm like, I did everything.
58:50 Speaker 01 Exactly.
58:51 Speaker 02 I did everything.
58:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
58:52 Speaker 02 I literally did every character that I have.
58:54 Speaker 01 Yep.
58:54 Speaker 02 And three seasons in, having a like breakdown, being like, I've done, I've done every voice, I have nothing.
59:02 Speaker 01 Have you talked about this, the three season in thing, like this?
59:05 Speaker 02 No, did you have it?
59:06 Speaker 01 Breakdown? Well, I've certainly had that thing. I think my second season, I was like, I did everything from my audition.
59:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's, that's how you feel. And then you, and then that's that, that hump you get over with also the help of other people being like, can you play blah, blah, blah? And you're like, well, I, we'll see. And then you end up. Trying or doing it, it doesn't always work, but and then you just like find new things. And then you find other ways to to find characters like it. It became not just vocal.
59:37 Speaker 01 Right.
59:37 Speaker 02 It became like physical, like I remember. I think it was I was in Paula Pell's office. Or James, I can't remember. But the like, the the don't make me sing that came from like just standing like.
59:51 Speaker 01 Jamming around.
59:51 Speaker 02 Let's just do something that summons stands like this, because I was like, I'm out of like, I'm out of. Things.
59:57 Speaker 01 You're out of things.
59:58 Speaker 02 To do, or you know what I'm saying?
1:00:00 Speaker 01 But you know what blows my mind? And I don't think I've talked about this. And I don't even think I've brought this up to you. But I was just so curious about the Rebecca LaRue.
1:00:09 Speaker 00 I was gonna say.
1:00:10 Speaker 01 Thing, the flirting expert, which was your last season. I think one of your last update features. I was like, how did this play at dress? And I will say, I watched back because we have the dress footage. From every single episode of SNL on the server.
1:00:24 Speaker 00 Database blows my mind.
1:00:26 Speaker 01 That's the thing I will miss the most.
1:00:27 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
1:00:28 Speaker 01 It's just the server, because it's just, it's comedy history. It's like the scripts of like Mark Howbell, like, like.
1:00:34 Speaker 00 Yeah, wow.
1:00:35 Speaker 01 Farrell writing that on his own, like you see, I'm like, oh, my, like, you just, there's just so much to. It's like a library, it's like Bell in the library in Beauty and the Beast. But Rebecca LaRue, I would say at dress. I was shocked, and I'm just saying this, I don't think it really played.
1:00:49 Speaker 02 Oh.
1:00:49 Speaker 01 And then on air, you just, I don't know what you guys did.
1:00:53 Speaker 02 Probably because it didn't play, and I was like, I'm gonna go for it.
1:00:56 Speaker 01 But you figured it out within what, like? Forty five minutes to an hour? That's incredible.
1:01:02 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't remember that.
1:01:04 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:01:04 Speaker 00 It's my top three characters that you've done the entire show. Yeah.
1:01:08 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
1:01:09 Speaker 00 Flirting expert Rebecca LaRue. Because of, because this is, I think, one of the keys to a great update piece for me as a viewer. Is how it's an element of it is how you guys interact with whoever the weekend update banker is. And the way that Rebecca LaRue, and Seth even said this on on his episode of our show, was like an indictment of the girls he was dating at the time. Was so funny, because you could tell there was like a friendly, like, energy there that felt personal, that was weirdly parasocial then for us as an audience that watches you guys week in and week out, because you could tell that was a little bit true.
1:01:45 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01:46 Speaker 00 In the, in the way he was flustered.
1:01:48 Speaker 02 That's so funny.
1:01:51 Speaker 02 Oh my gosh.
1:01:52 Speaker 01 But it's just, I was just like noting the difference and I, and I hope you don't mind me saying like I, the, the feeling watching dress was like,
1:01:57 Speaker 02 No, I don't mind at all.
1:01:58 Speaker 01 Why are they laughing at this?
1:01:59 Speaker 02 I have no, I, I have no memory.
1:02:00 Speaker 01 Right. Oh, and I also, I also love what you tried to impart to me and I did not take to heart, which was like, don't read like the reviews and the comments and the feedback. Because that is the thing that I think like, took me a long time to get over and was like, you just have to remember it as your own experience.
1:02:15 Speaker 02 And the ones that are bad go through a certain synapse. They print out and they stay in a file. And you can access it at any point and you can see every word.
1:02:28 Speaker 01 Yep.
1:02:29 Speaker 02 And the good ones go, go away. And I was, I mean, I'm aging myself. Did we have the internet when I was on? But like, did we? We kinda did, but like there wasn't.
1:02:43 Speaker 01 There were like two reviews.
1:02:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, but wait, did we?
1:02:47 Speaker 01 Yes, yes. Definitely, certainly, certainly.
1:02:50 Speaker 02 I was on in 1964. I mean, I know we had the internet, but it wasn't so much like blogging and social media.
1:02:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, right, right, right.
1:02:59 Speaker 02 That's what I'm saying. I mean, of course we had like computers, but um,
1:03:04 Speaker 02 did we have the internet? Oh please, can that be the title of this?
1:03:07 Speaker 01 Did we have the internet?
1:03:09 Speaker 02 And I never watched the show when I was on.
1:03:12 Speaker 01 That's incredible.
1:03:12 Speaker 02 Because I didn't want to like see what I looked at. There, most of the things I've done, I've never seen.
1:03:20 Speaker 01 Really? Bridesmaids?
1:03:22 Speaker 02 I've seen bridesmaids.
1:03:22 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03:23 Speaker 02 Because I, I just mean like on SNL.
1:03:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, that stuff.
1:03:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. But I couldn't watch it the next day or, or watch it in between for, I couldn't, I couldn't do that.
1:03:32 Speaker 01 That's holding something very sacred in terms of like the, the theater aspect of it.
1:03:36 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:03:37 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, that's, that's cool.
1:03:38 Speaker 02 You're doing a live show in front of an audience. They're the ones, you know. But then, yes, millions of people are watching.
1:03:46 Speaker 01 Yes, yes, yes.
1:03:47 Speaker 02 But the energy, when you're there, when you're onstage, your first thought isn't, this is on TV.
1:03:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03:56 Speaker 02 You're like, oh, I can see Jenna, I can see the crowd, I can see the people in their costumes waiting to come in. It feels very, it is, it's like theater.
1:04:05 Speaker 01 It's like theater, and the good thing that got me, and I've talked about this with Matt last week in like my exit interview, it's like the thing that destroyed me was just looking out on my last sketch, during my last sketch, and seeing basically the whole staff show up. And I was like, oh, this, and it had nothing to do with what was gonna maybe be said about it online, or what the reviews would be, it was, it was just spatially in the room.
1:04:27 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:04:28 Speaker 01 It totally healed all of these wounds from the past seven years, where I would like really care about what people thought. And when I realized, what I would tell, what I would tell the new cast on my way out, what I told them was, like, because they would approach me, they were like, how do you, this is really weird, like, how do you deal with this? And I was like, there's three audiences who are watching. It's the people in the room, and kind of the people at home. It's the internet, which is this like voice that just wants to, is incentivized to say something like that takes it down, or devalues it. And then there's the people who make decisions, have the power to make decisions for you, who can like help you materially find interesting things, or whatever.
1:05:14 Speaker 01 And only two of those audiences matter. Like, the internet one doesn't really matter.
1:05:18 Speaker 02 Because if you don't look, in some ways, it doesn't, it just doesn't exist.
1:05:23 Speaker 00 Right, exactly.
1:05:23 Speaker 01 I agree.
1:05:24 Speaker 00 Yeah, which is, yeah. I remember when, when we were talking on set at Palm Royale, you were like, you said to me like, I knew I would love Bowen, because I feel like we like the same stuff. And I, what did you mean by that? And what, what do you guys think you have in common? Because I think it meant beyond comedy.
1:05:42 Speaker 02 Well, a sense of humor, for sure, but also just...
1:05:47 Speaker 02 You and I interacting in between sketches?
1:05:50 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:05:51 Speaker 02 I feel like we didn't even have to like say much and we were just laughing and I just felt uh, it's kind of even hard to describe. It's like when you, probably when you guys met, right? It's like you just feel like, oh.
1:06:04 Speaker 00 Hey.
1:06:05 Speaker 02 Hey.
1:06:05 Speaker 00 There's nonverbal stuff.
1:06:07 Speaker 02 And also being on that show, you do feel like you're already in a little like army together.
1:06:12 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:06:13 Speaker 02 You know, so.
1:06:14 Speaker 01 This is, this is my thing. This is maybe what you meant. This is what it means to me, which was the first time you came back was COVID Christmas, December 2020.
1:06:24 Speaker 02 Oh, God.
1:06:24 Speaker 01 And it was, and Dua Lipa was a musical guest.
1:06:26 Speaker 00 Marjorie. This was a classic. People, people don't talk about this one as much as they should.
1:06:30 Speaker 01 I'm not even talking about the sketch. I'm talking about.
1:06:32 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:06:33 Speaker 01 Kristen and I watching Dua Lipa sing on stage and us going, oh my God, that's Dua Lipa.
1:06:37 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:06:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:38 Speaker 00 And we were like.
1:06:38 Speaker 01 Full on. And my other thought was like, we're like the only people in the world watching live music right now.
1:06:44 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:06:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:46 Speaker 00 That was levitating, right?
1:06:47 Speaker 01 That was levitating.
1:06:48 Speaker 00 Oh, that hat.
1:06:49 Speaker 01 Don't start now. It was amazing.
1:06:50 Speaker 00 I loved both those performances.
1:06:52 Speaker 02 I danced my face off watching her every time. I loved it.
1:06:55 Speaker 00 I went to go see her Radical Optimism Tour and it was really great. And I watched this like long, the Swiftologist.
1:07:02 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
1:07:03 Speaker 00 I watched like this, there's this YouTuber who's like, oh, like doing long form videos about like, you know, like pop music. And he was like, Dua Lipa is a category five pop star. This means that she will, things move around her. You know what I mean?
1:07:18 Speaker 02 Also, was it not, was it not nice?
1:07:20 Speaker 00 No, no, it was very nice. It was basically saying like, it's like there's certain levels of artists where they don't necessarily have to worry about proving themselves ever. It's just like, they can come and sort of like, you know, decide what's going to be the tone based on moves they make.
1:07:36 Speaker 02 And I fully agree with that.
1:07:38 Speaker 00 The, the argument was that she has gotten to this place where she's always going to be reliably Dua Lipa.
1:07:45 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:07:45 Speaker 00 Because.
1:07:47 Speaker 01 She's Dua Lipa.
1:07:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:07:48 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:07:48 Speaker 02 And she's really good. And we had the same birthday.
1:07:51 Speaker 00 Same birthday. What sign is that?
1:07:53 Speaker 02 It's a Leo Virgo cusp.
1:07:55 Speaker 00 Leo Virgo cusp.
1:07:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:07:57 Speaker 01 Yum, yum, yum.
1:07:58 Speaker 00 That's really, really good.
1:08:00 Speaker 02 Is it?
1:08:01 Speaker 00 What is it? August?
1:08:02 Speaker 02 22nd.
1:08:03 Speaker 00 22nd. Eight twenty-two?
1:08:05 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:08:06 Speaker 00 Why do I feel like that's an auspicious day?
1:08:08 Speaker 01 Just feels nice.
1:08:08 Speaker 02 Cause it's a double, a double digit?
1:08:10 Speaker 00 Oh.
1:08:10 Speaker 02 I don't know.
1:08:10 Speaker 00 Twenty-two is my favorite number and I have a tattoo.
1:08:12 Speaker 02 It's my favorite number!
1:08:13 Speaker 00 Stop. What about it?
1:08:15 Speaker 02 Well, it's my birthday.
1:08:16 Speaker 00 Well, yes.
1:08:17 Speaker 02 But also I see it, I see it when I need to see it.
1:08:20 Speaker 00 Wow, it's an angel number? Right now?
1:08:22 Speaker 02 I needed to see that today.
1:08:23 Speaker 00 Maybe I needed to see it too.
1:08:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:08:25 Speaker 00 I think I liked the, um, well, it was my baseball jersey growing up.
1:08:28 Speaker 02 Oh.
1:08:29 Speaker 00 I didn't know that.
1:08:30 Speaker 01 Yep. This is beautiful.
1:08:33 Speaker 02 See, we're all connected.
1:08:34 Speaker 01 We're all connected.
1:08:35 Speaker 00 And people are like, is that a Taylor Swift tattoo? And I'm like, no, it's not. But when I went to the era store and she sang twenty-two, I definitely went like this.
1:08:42 Speaker 02 You for sure did.
1:08:45 Speaker 00 I kinda thought when you said you liked all this, like, cool, all the same stuff. I was like, well, they both like cool music. I feel like you guys are both like cool when it comes to music.
1:08:53 Speaker 01 I've fallen off.
1:08:54 Speaker 02 I've kind of fallen off too.
1:08:56 Speaker 00 Yeah, but I bet even that is cool.
1:09:00 Speaker 00 I feel like you guys like, like, cool bands and stuff.
1:09:02 Speaker 01 No, I'm just listening to like eighties Japanese city pop. That's all I listen to now.
1:09:08 Speaker 00 I'm still streaming Espresso.
1:09:09 Speaker 01 It's okay.
1:09:10 Speaker 02 Oh, Espresso, yay.
1:09:11 Speaker 00 Think about me, every night.
1:09:12 Speaker 02 Doesn't get old.
1:09:13 Speaker 00 I feel like, they famously did an Espresso sketch, but I feel like if Espresso is on when you're on SNL, you do something with Espresso. What do you mean? I feel like you, you do a character that's something that dances to Espresso or whatever.
1:09:28 Speaker 02 Okay, talking.
1:09:30 Speaker 00 I'm inspired by you and that's why I literally came up with the Robin, the Riddler's assistant thing. I was like.
1:09:37 Speaker 02 That was so fun.
1:09:38 Speaker 00 I am inspired, we are inspired by you and we'd like to be your writers.
1:09:41 Speaker 02 Oh my God, that's the nicest thing you ever say.
1:09:43 Speaker 01 Because when we pitched Rob, because we had to get on Zoom with you and like pitch this idea and we were like.
1:09:48 Speaker 00 Pitching a character Kristen Wiig.
1:09:49 Speaker 01 We're like, we're pitching a character to Kristen Wiig and there's a chance she is like, what the fuck are you guys talking about?
1:09:54 Speaker 00 Which would have been really hard. That would have been really hard.
1:09:58 Speaker 01 But you immediately like snapped in and you were like, oh my God, Robin.
1:10:01 Speaker 00 I get it. It's funny. I think this is what it is. Yes. Okay. Great. Yes. We were like, yes!
1:10:08 Speaker 01 And then it was like, we were like working on this with you. Oh my God. And then another thing that I will never forget is, remember the four versions of the presenter copy we had for the Emmys that one year? Because we weren't sure if Maya was gonna make it because she was sick. Seth was maybe not gonna be able to do it because he like wasn't flying in. It was me, it was no, it was just me. I can't believe this. It was me, you, Seth and Maya presenting, like walking up, doing like a bit about Lorne.
1:10:35 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:10:35 Speaker 01 I'm winning too many Emmys or something.
1:10:37 Speaker 02 Yes, yes, yes.
1:10:38 Speaker 01 But you and I, Kristen and I were in that dressing room.
1:10:42 Speaker 02 With our pencils?
1:10:43 Speaker 01 With our pencils, while Matt Bomer was sitting in the, on the other corner, like wanting to say hi to us and we're like, we're in the middle of something.
1:10:51 Speaker 00 Matt, just one second.
1:10:53 Speaker 02 Well, I'm sure we said hello.
1:10:54 Speaker 01 We said hello. We weren't rude.
1:10:55 Speaker 00 He's the nicest guy.
1:10:56 Speaker 01 He's the nicest, no, we all hugged, we said hi, but you and I were like locked in.
1:11:00 Speaker 02 Because guess what? We gotta rewrite this.
1:11:02 Speaker 01 We, we had to rewrite it.
1:11:03 Speaker 02 Shows in ten.
1:11:04 Speaker 01 Not that, not that we were given like bad copy, but the show, no, it was just like we, there was four different versions where it was if, if Lorne didn't win the Emmy.
1:11:12 Speaker 02 Oh, that's why, because it was after, if he didn't win, if he did win.
1:11:16 Speaker 01 If Maya could be there.
1:11:17 Speaker 02 If she wasn't, yeah.
1:11:18 Speaker 01 We had four different versions of that copy ready to go.
1:11:20 Speaker 02 Yep.
1:11:21 Speaker 01 And you and I had to like sit there and like rewrite all, I was like, I can't believe I'm, I'm doing four versions of presenter copy with Kristen. I was like, this is surreal.
1:11:29 Speaker 02 It was so fun.
1:11:30 Speaker 01 But it was so fun. You're the best. You're our hero.
1:11:33 Speaker 00 I just, and I feel like on Palm Royale too, you're so like, it was just.
1:11:37 Speaker 02 Thanks for bringing it back. Palm Royale finale, believe just now.
1:11:40 Speaker 00 I was just like, what I was like, the coolest part of it was just like being on set and seeing you like try to figure out or finesse certain things. It's just, it's just really cool and to be a part of that.
1:11:50 Speaker 02 You were incredible and I got so many texts about how funny you were and great and Abe obviously just loves you. I had so much fun working with you. And even in that scene with Kai in the bedroom and you and I just kinda like running around and doing our own thing.
1:12:04 Speaker 00 I think that was my favorite, my favorite day was us behind the ledge talking and I don't know, there were, there were several favorite days.
1:12:15 Speaker 02 Doing the like, come to the tub. That was all you.
1:12:16 Speaker 00 Oh, that was great.
1:12:17 Speaker 02 That was all Matt. He just started doing it. He just started going, come to the tub.
1:12:22 Speaker 00 It's a great, it's a great atmosphere. And also, it's like, it feels like a really fun playful atmosphere where you could come up with something like that and you would be like entrusted as a member of the group to like pitch something like that. But it's also kind of, I had never experienced that energy with something that had that much budget. I was like, wow, like, this is like, because we were talking earlier about being on set, like, that's a big ol' show. And to still have that playful energy, I think is a testament to you and to Abe and to all the cast and all the departments that provide the, the malleability for something like that, because that wasn't, that wasn't in the script at all.
1:12:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
1:12:59 Speaker 00 And then it became the whole entry point into our meet cute.
1:13:03 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:13:04 Speaker 00 Which was a blast.
1:13:06 Speaker 01 It's a period comedy with, with just a sense of fun and kitschiness and just, it's so delicious. It's like, we don't, it's, it's a unicorn. It's a rare thing. And like, I, I think, I'm so happy it's, it exists. I can't believe you guys are both in it, doing a two-hander episode all the way through. Like, I'm telling you, I was, I was watching and I was like, this is heaven. Like, I'm, these two people that I love. Anyway, um, Palm Royale, it's out. Let's move on to I Don't Think So Honey.
1:13:37 Speaker 00 Palm Royale is out, is out. No, I'm saying Palm Royale, I'm just, I'm just, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm being cursed. It's, it's, by the time this airs, the whole season.
1:13:44 Speaker 02 It's officially all out now, right? I don't know what day it is.
1:13:48 Speaker 01 Doesn't matter.
1:13:49 Speaker 00 It's out.
1:13:50 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:13:51 Speaker 00 It's out.
1:13:51 Speaker 01 Thumbs up.
1:13:52 Speaker 02 I told you, I don't know what's going on.
1:13:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:13:54 Speaker 02 Oh, my God.
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1:17:28 Speaker 00 Okay, so it's I Don't Think So Honey. Okay. This is a big moment, because it's a moment where we sort of say our takes. And sometimes those takes include a little bit of a take down. So this is the 60-second segment where we sort of pop off about something that's bothering us in culture. And I'm gonna talk about the way I engage. Here we go.
1:17:51 Speaker 01 Oh my gosh.
1:17:51 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:17:52 Speaker 01 This is exciting. This is Matt Rogers, I Don't Think So Honey's time starts now.
1:17:55 Speaker 00 I Don't Think So Honey, my fat thumbs.
1:17:57 Speaker 01 Oh!
1:17:57 Speaker 00 Because I can't send a text without it indenting wildly. And I do think it's because they're fat. Because I don't think so, honey, that it's that I have to utilize my fingers differently. I think they're just a little chunker.
1:18:11 Speaker 01 No.
1:18:12 Speaker 00 And I'm telling you, like, it's impossible for me on the first try to get a text right. Always, it always looks like a haiku when I text. Am I wrong, or am I wrong? It'll be on like four different lines.
1:18:22 Speaker 01 Am I wrong?
1:18:23 Speaker 00 So I Don't Think So Honey, my
1:18:24 Speaker 01 30 seconds.
1:18:25 Speaker 00 thumbs, because sometimes you need to use your thumbs to, you know, engage, comment, address. And I got my chunkers in the way, and I'm trying to get things done here. And then I think, you know what? Maybe your thumbs are trying to tell you something.
1:18:40 Speaker 01 15 seconds.
1:18:41 Speaker 00 Put the phone down.
1:18:42 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:18:43 Speaker 00 Don't even pick up the phone. Your thumbs, it's evolution. It's actually saying you're evolving out.
1:18:50 Speaker 01 Five seconds.
1:18:50 Speaker 00 Of the discourse. Put the phone down. My thumbs are getting bigger and bigger. I think all of our brains are getting smaller and smaller.
1:18:57 Speaker 01 That's true.
1:18:57 Speaker 00 And I think that is a correlation. I don't think so, honey, that we need, that we ignore this. If your thumbs are too fat to type, maybe it's because your body is doing you a favor by evolving out of engagement.
1:19:09 Speaker 01 If you're, that's one minute. If your, if your thumbs are too fat, natural selection will be good to you. That's what you're saying.
1:19:15 Speaker 00 If you can see them from the front, wait till you see them from the back. That is a, that is a line about thumbs.
1:19:23 Speaker 01 I don't want you to talk badly about your thumbs. I think that has.
1:19:26 Speaker 00 If anyone's gonna.
1:19:27 Speaker 02 By the way, your thumbs are on the thinner side.
1:19:29 Speaker 00 You think so?
1:19:30 Speaker 02 But here's the thing. If you.
1:19:32 Speaker 01 The same exact way.
1:19:33 Speaker 02 I believe if you make your text bigger, you know how you can make your text bigger? I think, doesn't the keyboard get bigger?
1:19:42 Speaker 01 No, it can't possibly.
1:19:43 Speaker 02 You're right, it can't possibly.
1:19:44 Speaker 01 There's only limited real estate. But you, it's, it's angle.
1:19:47 Speaker 00 I'm looking at our thumbs and we have the same sized thumb.
1:19:50 Speaker 02 Guys, I think my thumb is bigger than yours.
1:19:51 Speaker 00 When I was 13, I thought that I was gay.
1:19:53 Speaker 01 Match up to. No, you have a beautiful, beautiful thumb. No, we're, we're way bigger.
1:19:59 Speaker 00 Three beautiful thumbs. But do you find, do you find that this is a problem you face as well?
1:20:05 Speaker 02 Do you want to know something?
1:20:06 Speaker 01 What?
1:20:07 Speaker 02 Sometimes I text with these fingers.
1:20:08 Speaker 00 Stop it now.
1:20:09 Speaker 01 That's chic.
1:20:12 Speaker 01 It's.
1:20:12 Speaker 02 I saw a woman do it. And I said, I'm gonna start doing that.
1:20:16 Speaker 00 I want to be like Mike.
1:20:17 Speaker 01 And that woman was?
1:20:19 Speaker 02 My friend Jessica.
1:20:20 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:20:20 Speaker 02 She holds her phone like this and she goes like this.
1:20:21 Speaker 01 That's nice. Like an instrument.
1:20:24 Speaker 00 Is she sending, is she sending like important texts though?
1:20:26 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
1:20:27 Speaker 00 She's a boss.
1:20:27 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, she's a boss.
1:20:28 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:20:29 Speaker 02 I mean, she's not using her thumbs. It's very 2024.
1:20:34 Speaker 00 It's very 2000 and late.
1:20:37 Speaker 01 Jessica, Jessica Simpson?
1:20:39 Speaker 02 No, not Jessica Simpson.
1:20:40 Speaker 00 You guys haven't hung out in a while.
1:20:41 Speaker 02 But I don't know how Jessica Simpson texts.
1:20:43 Speaker 00 I bet she texts like this. Hey Siri, send a text to Ashley Simpson. Hey sister, was just wondering how you were doing today? Send.
1:20:58 Speaker 00 And then Ashley says in response like this, hey fucker, I'm a rebel. Just kidding. This is like more their 2004 personas that I'm, I'm sure they've both grown, changed, evolved or not. And that would be fine because they were perfect already.
1:21:13 Speaker 01 You would have written a killer fanfic about the Simpsons.
1:21:15 Speaker 00 Who says I didn't? Oh, who says I did it under a pseudonym? I didn't. I have something and I'm, I, I hope, I hope.
1:21:26 Speaker 01 I hope this, this enacts change.
1:21:29 Speaker 00 I don't think that you should judge it. Just, just let it do what it's gonna do. Yeah, mine's not gonna do anything. This is going out into the, this is going out into the wild west. If it's gonna enact change, that's what it's supposed to do. And if not, just don't be disappointed in yourself.
1:21:40 Speaker 01 Okay, thank you.
1:21:41 Speaker 00 This is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
1:21:44 Speaker 01 I don't think so, honey. The word squeegee, because the thing that it is should not be called that. It should be called a glass scraper, a water shovel, a wipe, a wipe downer.
1:22:04 Speaker 00 Wipe downer.
1:22:04 Speaker 01 Not a, who came up with squeegee? Who pointed at that? Because the linguistic thing is the concept should match the, the name, right? Where there's a disconnect there. Squeegee should be a dog toy, a children's game.
1:22:20 Speaker 00 My name.
1:22:20 Speaker 01 A stress ball, Matt's name. Yeah. A little pet name for something, your, your loved one.
1:22:24 Speaker 00 Hey squeegee.
1:22:25 Speaker 01 Hey squeegee. Instead, it's the most uncute thing in the world.
1:22:30 Speaker 00 15 seconds.
1:22:31 Speaker 01 A wide rubbery thing to like wipe down your windshields or your showers? I don't understand. I think we really should decouple squeegee, the word from squeegee the thing and just take a new pass at, at those names.
1:22:47 Speaker 00 That's one minute.
1:22:48 Speaker 01 Maybe we name everything.
1:22:49 Speaker 00 I love the word squeegee, but I do wonder if it should be something else. Like it feels like it should be what a sponge is called.
1:22:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:22:59 Speaker 00 A sponge should be a squeegee. Yes. This is a squeegee motion. Yeah, or a verb. Like that's what you do to a sponge. You squeegee.
1:23:10 Speaker 02 That sounds.
1:23:11 Speaker 00 Well, did you squeegee it out? Because it's still.
1:23:13 Speaker 02 Is that sponge wet? Give it a squeegee.
1:23:14 Speaker 00 Give it a squeegee.
1:23:16 Speaker 02 Oh, you want me to do it?
1:23:17 Speaker 00 See, this is very James Anderson.
1:23:19 Speaker 02 Hey, could you give a little squeegee?
1:23:22 Speaker 00 Instead of squeeze.
1:23:23 Speaker 02 My name's Janelle Squeegee.
1:23:25 Speaker 00 Janelle Squeegee.
1:23:27 Speaker 01 No, one of his, one of his final names that never saw the light of day during his final season was, um, Yolanda Releasings.
1:23:35 Speaker 00 Yolanda Releasings. That's like beginning, that's like Ms. Beginnings Chang.
1:23:42 Speaker 01 Yolanda Releasings.
1:23:43 Speaker 02 The bird with the S.
1:23:45 Speaker 01 Releasings, yeah. The I, the J, and Releasings. Like it's a noun. Releasing is a noun. Like, and it's so weird. Anyway.
1:23:59 Speaker 00 I do think like also in the James Anderson canon is something like squeegee St. Regis.
1:24:03 Speaker 01 Squeegee St. Regis.
1:24:04 Speaker 00 You know what I mean? Like, that's like something that he would float around.
1:24:06 Speaker 01 Of course.
1:24:07 Speaker 00 Squeegee Adams.
1:24:08 Speaker 01 What a talent.
1:24:09 Speaker 00 With like three D's.
1:24:10 Speaker 01 Are you ready?
1:24:11 Speaker 02 Yes. Okay, so I just start by saying, I don't think so, honey.
1:24:13 Speaker 00 We're gonna say, we're gonna say.
1:24:15 Speaker 01 Time starts now.
1:24:16 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:24:16 Speaker 00 Hold on.
1:24:17 Speaker 02 I don't think so.
1:24:17 Speaker 00 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
1:24:18 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:24:19 Speaker 01 This is Kristen Wiig's I Don't Think So Honey, and her time starts now.
1:24:22 Speaker 02 I don't think so, honey. I need snack companies, preferably chips and popcorn, to stop creating flavors.
1:24:33 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:24:34 Speaker 02 I, back in the day, you wanted to get a popcorn, you get a plain, you get a cheese, you get a caramel. Now, you've got, you've got the truffles, you've got the herbs. It's too much confusion. I get grocery store confusion. It's aisles and aisles. There's chips, there's, there's salsa syrup. There's too many. But here's what I'm saying is, where, where are they going? If people don't buy them, where are they going? Are they going into a landfill?
1:24:57 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:24:58 Speaker 02 And there's too much, there's too many cans, drinks.
1:25:02 Speaker 01 Keep naming them.
1:25:02 Speaker 02 There's too many canned drinks, too many sparkling things with flavors and probiotics. There's protein everywhere. There's protein in your popcorn. There's, there's too many flavors. The, don't stop me. The aisles are too long. It's a whole, it's an aisle on one side, an aisle on the other, with cracker flavors, chip flavors, pretzel flavors. There's too many flavors, sweets and salties and savories. Stop. Because.
1:25:30 Speaker 01 Because I don't think so, honey.
1:25:31 Speaker 02 Because I don't think so, honey.
1:25:35 Speaker 00 Okay, I'll tell you where they go.
1:25:37 Speaker 02 Tell me, because there's too.
1:25:39 Speaker 01 I agree with you 1,000%.
1:25:41 Speaker 00 It's because you're not a part of the community that engages in this, and I'm telling you, there is one. My, our friend Greta hosts a party every year the night before Thanksgiving, which is called Chips Giving. It is a time when.
1:25:56 Speaker 02 New flavors?
1:25:56 Speaker 00 Everyone at the party that is invited brings like a artisanal, some sort of bespoke flavor of chip. And everyone comes and they present the chip that they brought. And they said, the reason I've chosen this chip is this reason. Everyone tries the chip. Now, there are sometimes as many as like 35 people at this party. Which means you're eating a lot of potato chips. And I have heard the next day, the people are more hungover than after any New Year's Eve, after any Christmas Eve, after any Fourth of July, because of the amount of salt.
1:26:29 Speaker 01 Oil and salt.
1:26:31 Speaker 02 Make that a holiday. Make the chip company.
1:26:34 Speaker 00 Unofficially, it is.
1:26:36 Speaker 02 Wait, wait till Thanksgiving. Wait till you see our new flavors and then make it like a thing, a Chips Giving. So we don't have to, you know, and then you like a flavor and then you go to, it's like, oh, they don't make that anymore.
1:26:46 Speaker 00 Then there's a purpose to it is what, is what you need.
1:26:49 Speaker 02 It's gone. Oh, because now they've introduced like hot, hot, hot sriracha.
1:26:55 Speaker 00 Oh, it's like.
1:26:55 Speaker 02 Macaroni chip.
1:26:56 Speaker 00 It's like cookie dough fiery hot. I'm telling you, you would not believe the kinds of chips. And it's like, it gives me anxiety now to know, I have not been to the party. To stop. Well, you could just lean in. You're, I'll, we'll get you invited to the party.
1:27:11 Speaker 02 I'm just nervous we're snacking too much as a country.
1:27:13 Speaker 01 I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring, I'm gonna bring something else to the table.
1:27:16 Speaker 02 Yep.
1:27:17 Speaker 01 Too many beverage flavors?
1:27:19 Speaker 02 That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
1:27:20 Speaker 01 You would include, you include beverages in that?
1:27:22 Speaker 02 No, in the can, when I was saying the can.
1:27:23 Speaker 00 Oh, the can. I see.
1:27:24 Speaker 02 Beverage flavors. Correct.
1:27:25 Speaker 01 What is salsa syrup?
1:27:27 Speaker 02 Oh, I just made that up.
1:27:28 Speaker 01 Oh, okay.
1:27:28 Speaker 02 I made, no, that, I made that up as a flavor of chip.
1:27:31 Speaker 00 Yeah, so maple, maple, maple salsa.
1:27:34 Speaker 02 Jalapeno.
1:27:35 Speaker 01 Great.
1:27:36 Speaker 00 Maple salsa jalapeno.
1:27:37 Speaker 02 That's the problem. People sit in rooms like this and make jokes and then they go, wait.
1:27:42 Speaker 01 Wait a minute.
1:27:44 Speaker 02 Waffle, still pickle chip?
1:27:47 Speaker 00 No, you're not, you're not off.
1:27:48 Speaker 02 Market tomorrow.
1:27:49 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's guaranteed there's already every brand of chip has, oh, that.
1:27:55 Speaker 00 But this, this being said, what is your favorite trip? Like, like what?
1:27:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:27:58 Speaker 02 Oh, I'm, I like a Cool Ranch.
1:28:00 Speaker 00 Cool Ranch.
1:28:01 Speaker 02 Cool Ranch Dorito.
1:28:02 Speaker 01 Sometimes they taste a bit.
1:28:04 Speaker 02 Hmm.
1:28:05 Speaker 01 What's, I, there's no other way to say this.
1:28:08 Speaker 02 Tell me.
1:28:09 Speaker 01 Cummy.
1:28:14 Speaker 00 There was no other way to say it?
1:28:16 Speaker 01 There isn't another way to say it.
1:28:17 Speaker 00 Cum smells like fish.
1:28:19 Speaker 02 Every camera.
1:28:19 Speaker 00 Say, say that. Doesn't cum smell like fish? What does cum smell like?
1:28:24 Speaker 01 I don't know what cum, it smells like Cool Ranch.
1:28:29 Speaker 02 I don't know who you're.
1:28:30 Speaker 00 I don't know who you're talking to, she said. I don't know who you're asking about what cum is.
1:28:34 Speaker 02 Never made, never made that connection.
1:28:38 Speaker 00 Well, you're not Bo.
1:28:39 Speaker 02 Have come up with a new.
1:28:42 Speaker 00 That's why they call him Bo and Yang.
1:28:44 Speaker 01 Syrup.
1:28:45 Speaker 00 Cum salsa syrup.
1:28:46 Speaker 01 Cum salsa syrup. I just don't enjoy it anymore.
1:28:50 Speaker 00 That's fine.
1:28:51 Speaker 02 The Cool Ranch, you mean?
1:28:52 Speaker 00 Well, now we can't.
1:28:53 Speaker 02 Or just.
1:28:54 Speaker 01 The Cool Ranch.
1:28:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, thanks.
1:28:55 Speaker 00 I like a Ridgey's. I like a traditional Ridgey's. I like.
1:28:58 Speaker 01 What's Ridgey's? Ruffles?
1:29:00 Speaker 00 Ruffles, Ridgey's. Ridgey's? You know Ridgey's.
1:29:02 Speaker 02 I'm not a Ridger.
1:29:04 Speaker 01 Oh, I love Ridge.
1:29:05 Speaker 00 And I, I also say, like, I like them. I, I'll tell you what I really don't like is all the flavors of Oreo. To me, I think Oreo is Oreo.
1:29:15 Speaker 02 They have flavors of Oreo?
1:29:17 Speaker 00 Even Lady Gaga, she came out with a chromatical Oreo and I was like, I don't know, cause now, now I feel the need to support the legend, but I don't like this Oreo.
1:29:25 Speaker 02 I like a mint, a mint Oreo.
1:29:27 Speaker 01 I love a mint Oreo. We're, we're about to go to Japan. Wait till you try matcha Oreo. Ooh, you're gonna like.
1:29:32 Speaker 02 That sounds good.
1:29:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:29:33 Speaker 00 Have you been to Japan?
1:29:34 Speaker 02 No, but it's my dream.
1:29:35 Speaker 00 I feel that you would, and me, but don't you think as someone who's been there, like, I feel like.
1:29:41 Speaker 01 You would love it. The kids would. The kids would love it.
1:29:44 Speaker 02 I, I would love to take them at some point. Maybe when they're a little older.
1:29:47 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:29:48 Speaker 01 They're already 16. As we said.
1:29:51 Speaker 02 Thirty six.
1:29:53 Speaker 01 That's the proper age to take your kids.
1:29:55 Speaker 00 Thirty six.
1:29:56 Speaker 01 You really, this is a huge conversation starter, this chips thing. I'm not, just thank you for bringing that.
1:30:01 Speaker 02 It's just, it overwhelms me.
1:30:03 Speaker 00 They're not talking about it.
1:30:03 Speaker 02 It overwhelms me when I go and I'm like, I just want to get like a chip.
1:30:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:30:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, and you can't.
1:30:09 Speaker 02 Even the thick, now, there's lentil chips.
1:30:11 Speaker 01 There's lentil chips.
1:30:12 Speaker 00 There sure are.
1:30:12 Speaker 02 You're making lentil chips.
1:30:13 Speaker 01 That's nice.
1:30:14 Speaker 02 Chips out of beans.
1:30:15 Speaker 01 Protein, protein in the popcorn.
1:30:16 Speaker 00 People are, people want a healthy option.
1:30:19 Speaker 02 I know.
1:30:19 Speaker 01 And I know you're saying, kind of as a joke, but maybe not, that the aisles are too long. But my, this is, this is my experience when I go to the grocery store now.
1:30:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:30:27 Speaker 01 I look at the chip aisle.
1:30:30 Speaker 01 I get so overwhelmed.
1:30:31 Speaker 02 Me too.
1:30:31 Speaker 01 And my, I don't even, my eye doesn't know where to land, I just move on. I don't even buy a chip and that's robbing me of a chip.
1:30:37 Speaker 02 It is.
1:30:38 Speaker 00 You know what you should do? In the names, in the, in the words of your character from Barben Star, you could just get one of every chip and make a suicide.
1:30:48 Speaker 02 That's true.
1:30:48 Speaker 01 Suicide.
1:30:49 Speaker 02 When you have too many options, you buy less. That is true. I remember hearing this on some sort of NPR something.
1:30:57 Speaker 00 Well, then you know it's good.
1:30:58 Speaker 02 They did a study, you're gonna cut this, this is boring. It was like a farmer's market of like jams. And when she had three types of jams, like sold out, when she had like 10 types of jams, people were like.
1:31:08 Speaker 00 I don't know.
1:31:09 Speaker 02 And then they walked away.
1:31:10 Speaker 00 Yeah, also because you, when I, I think that this is true. When there's a lot of options, when there's a lot of options, I do think you in your head question, well, can these all be good?
1:31:21 Speaker 01 Right.
1:31:21 Speaker 00 And therefore, can this brand be good?
1:31:23 Speaker 02 What if I don't get the right one?
1:31:25 Speaker 00 It's like when you go to a restaurant and there's only the six entree options, you're like, well, I know these are all curated. Lovely girls. Whereas when you go to the Cheesecake Factory and there's nothing against the Cheesecake Factory here.
1:31:37 Speaker 02 It's just a big menu.
1:31:38 Speaker 00 It takes you much, well, clearly, not just much, much longer to decide because of all the options, but you're like, now, what, what's the area of expertise here? You know what I'm saying? It's like, and, and that is overwhelming.
1:31:50 Speaker 02 And then you think, I've ordered wrong, and then comes the negative self-talk.
1:31:54 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:31:57 Speaker 02 I can't even go out to dinner.
1:32:00 Speaker 00 What's wrong with me?
1:32:03 Speaker 02 I should have got what they had.
1:32:04 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:32:06 Speaker 02 I'm gonna go to the grocery store and get some chips.
1:32:08 Speaker 00 I'm going home.
1:32:10 Speaker 01 Nope, just kidding. I get to the grocery store, I look at the aisle, I'm out. I'm going home, empty handed.
1:32:16 Speaker 00 Hungry. I'm going to bed hungry tonight. There was too much to eat. I'm going to bed hungry. Okay?
1:32:24 Speaker 01 This is a nightmare.
1:32:26 Speaker 00 Wait, I want to say, because I feel like we only breezily mentioned Bridesmaids and Barb and Star. And I also wanted to say, you mentioned Hater earlier. The duet that is The Skeleton Twins should not be forgotten. You guys were fantastic in that. And I feel like it was such an amazing, like, little hint for people that like, that like, saw that movie and like, know that movie of what was to come for both of you guys, which is you're both phenomenal actors. Like, he's so, he's so brilliant and I feel like you guys were obviously like, MVPs at that show you were on, which is saying something because everyone was an MVP, but you guys together, amazing.
1:33:07 Speaker 00 And I feel like, you know, he's obviously done what he's done and you, like, have just continued to, like, grow and show your versatility as an actress. I will never stop reminding people of that last episode of the first season of Palm Royale, when you're on stage and everything's happening and you're just, your instrument as an actor is so varied and you're in such control of it. And I feel like that shouldn't get lost and I'm not surprised at all that every actor got a list of everyone that they possibly could vote for in a leading or supporting capacity at the Actor Awards and your name came out as one of the five because you are that good. You are really that good.
1:33:48 Speaker 02 Really, that means a lot coming from you. Thank you. I don't know what to say.
1:33:52 Speaker 00 I believe with my full heart and I know you feel the same.
1:33:54 Speaker 01 I feel the exact same.
1:33:55 Speaker 02 I, well, I think there's actually flaws. Issues with your work.
1:34:00 Speaker 00 I would describe it as commie. Yeah, describe as.
1:34:04 Speaker 02 Very cool, Ranch.
1:34:05 Speaker 00 Very cool Ranch, if you gather my meaning.
1:34:10 Speaker 01 It's incredible. No, and I will just say like, Melissa coming to the show this season, McCarthy, I was just like, oh, God, Groundlings people.
1:34:19 Speaker 00 Actors.
1:34:20 Speaker 01 Actors.
1:34:20 Speaker 00 And let's talk about Rose Byrne.
1:34:22 Speaker 01 Rose Byrne.
1:34:22 Speaker 00 Oh, congratulations. Let's, let's, let's, let's see her get some, some hardware.
1:34:28 Speaker 02 Let's do that because she is such a brilliant, obviously comedic actress, but dramatic actress.
1:34:34 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah.
1:34:35 Speaker 02 Just actor.
1:34:35 Speaker 00 Can do anything and has been.
1:34:37 Speaker 02 Can do anything. I mean, Melissa too. My God.
1:34:39 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:34:39 Speaker 02 Like, oh, I'm just, I'm so happy that she won this night.
1:34:43 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:34:43 Speaker 02 Oh, my God.
1:34:44 Speaker 00 You must be, you must be feeling like.
1:34:46 Speaker 02 I teared up.
1:34:47 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:34:47 Speaker 01 Aw, man.
1:34:48 Speaker 02 She's so, she's so good and she does such great stuff and she's such a good person. And I don't know, I'm just, I root for her in a way because her talent, I think, is, is just.
1:35:00 Speaker 01 Boundless, boundless.
1:35:01 Speaker 00 She's exemplary of what it means to be versatile, hardworking, like always getting better, always interesting. I remember her from Wicker Park.
1:35:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:35:09 Speaker 01 Ah, Wicker Park.
1:35:11 Speaker 00 The Josh Hartnett vehicle.
1:35:13 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:35:13 Speaker 00 Wicker Park.
1:35:16 Speaker 00 And I'm just saying, she's been around and doing it and kicking ass. I'm not surprised at all.
1:35:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:35:21 Speaker 00 To see.
1:35:21 Speaker 02 I was so, so happy.
1:35:24 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:35:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:35:25 Speaker 00 But also my, some of my biggest laughs in that movie are your guys' passive aggression at each other. Like, the, I think people change.
1:35:32 Speaker 02 It's very hard to act like you don't like.
1:35:33 Speaker 00 I don't think people do, right?
1:35:34 Speaker 02 To act like we didn't like each other. It's really hard.
1:35:37 Speaker 01 I mean, it's perfect.
1:35:38 Speaker 00 It's like you can, you did it so well because you had, you had a lens on it because you could probably talk about the ways in which you didn't like each other because you like each other.
1:35:48 Speaker 02 Right, right, right, right.
1:35:50 Speaker 01 And was this cut, was this from the trailer? I mean, was it cut from the final film where the first time you guys meet, she goes, oh, did you just come from work? Did that make it to the final film?
1:36:00 Speaker 02 I don't remember.
1:36:01 Speaker 01 Someone literally said that to me in like an earnest way. Cause we went to Sarah Sherman's special premiere and we literally did all, I mean, maybe that's why they said it, but we all did come from, we did not look like glammed up.
1:36:13 Speaker 02 Yeah, but that is basically saying, oh, did you?
1:36:15 Speaker 01 You look like shit.
1:36:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:36:17 Speaker 01 She was like, she was like, she said to me the line from, like Rose Byrne's line from Bridesmaids. I was like, oh, hi, did you come from, oh, wow, did you come from work? And I was like, uh. Yeah, but don't worry about it.
1:36:29 Speaker 00 She knows the owner. I know the owner. You do.
1:36:34 Speaker 01 The, the, the impact of that line in the theater, I will never experience.
1:36:40 Speaker 00 It's the funniest.
1:36:42 Speaker 01 Fuck, like, we're going there, like, yeah, that, that, that, that's when the movie turns.
1:36:47 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:36:47 Speaker 01 You know, anyway.
1:36:48 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, you guys.
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