Pod Insights Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang "More Like Read BY Jenna" (w/ Jenna Bush Hager) About this episode This is TODAY, with Matt + Bowen... and their friend Jenna Bush Hager! The host of Today with Jenna & Sheinelle and STAR of The Devil Wears Prada 2 (yeah, we said it!) joins Las Cultch for the very first time to discuss getting dragged by her 13 year old, 30 Rock as an office environment and the best time to take in a Lobster Roll. Also, The Babysitters Club actually inspiring a young Jenna to start her own babysitting organization, Paula Abdul's "Straight Up", and "botox minimalism". All this, being parodied on SNL by Amy Poehler, choosing a front-facing life after many years of forced front-facing life, and a discussion of which presidents may have been gay. Save the libraries, y'all! They need our help! And if you're in a bookstore, look for that Read With Jenna sticker!
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1:26 Speaker 05 Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. Wow.
1:30 Speaker 03 Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
1:40 Speaker 04 Las Culturistas in back pain. Well, this one is.
1:43 Speaker 03 I feel so sad for my sister, you guys. He is.
1:46 Speaker 04 And I don't mean to, you know, curry pity? Is that?
1:50 Speaker 03 Curry pity? I don't mean to curry pity. It does, it does sound like too much. Too n-.
1:57 Speaker 04 And why? Yes.
1:59 Speaker 03 Curry pity.
2:00 Speaker 04 I'm just gonna go ahead and identify as being in my 40s. Not that people in their 40s all have back pain. But I think I'm in on accelerated track of, of just, of needing lidocaine and.
2:15 Speaker 03 So you've got a lidocaine patch on right now?
2:17 Speaker 04 I've got a patch on now.
2:18 Speaker 03 What happened? Tell the girls.
2:20 Speaker 04 I did what's called a dumbbell good morning.
2:24 Speaker 03 And, and good night.
2:25 Speaker 04 And good night to all that.
2:28 Speaker 03 So what is a dumbbell good morning? Is it one of those things where it's like this? Cause this is my favorite thing my trainer does. And this is my favorite thing anyone ever does in the gym. And you're just supposed to do this. Ready? Podcasts are a visual medium. Check us out on YouTube to see what the hell I'm about to do. This. So when there's like the two dumbbells right here.
2:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
2:45 Speaker 03 And you put it up on your thing and you go.
2:46 Speaker 04 You hoist. Yeah, you love that.
2:49 Speaker 03 I mean, I love it in theory, but like it is like when your trainer just like whips out like, what did you call that? It's like a, like a, like a.
2:56 Speaker 04 Squat?
2:57 Speaker 03 Squat to squat to press.
2:59 Speaker 04 Squat to press.
2:59 Speaker 03 It's the craziest shit you've ever seen.
3:02 Speaker 04 Well, they're just showing off.
3:03 Speaker 03 I love it. You have a straight trainer, straight male trainer?
3:06 Speaker 04 No.
3:06 Speaker 03 I gotta get yourself one of those.
3:08 Speaker 04 Gay male.
3:10 Speaker 03 Gay, oh, Ian, I know.
3:11 Speaker 04 Ian, we love Ian.
3:12 Speaker 03 Ah, yes.
3:13 Speaker 04 Check out his SoundCloud.
3:14 Speaker 03 Hey, check out Bowen's gay trainer SoundCloud. And remember, your back probably isn't flat enough when you're doing that back exercise.
3:23 Speaker 04 I'm saying this is, was not under his guidance. I did not get this.
3:28 Speaker 03 Oh, this is important to say disclaimer.
3:29 Speaker 04 Disclaimer.
3:30 Speaker 03 He was, Bowen was completely unattended doing these exercises.
3:33 Speaker 04 Almost every week. And that's also something that I should be honest about.
3:37 Speaker 03 You are the accountability zone today.
3:40 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
3:41 Speaker 03 He's in his mid 40s, he's got back pain.
3:43 Speaker 04 But you know what I've been doing while, whilst in bed with the useless heating pad and these useless lidocaine patches? That might be me, I don't think so, honey, later. Patches.
3:52 Speaker 03 Patches.
3:52 Speaker 04 Um, I've been reading a lot.
3:54 Speaker 03 What have you been reading?
3:55 Speaker 04 Various books, Ursula K. Le Guin.
4:00 Speaker 04 Do you read her?
4:02 Speaker 03 Okay, hold on.
4:03 Speaker 04 But my favorite thing is match.
4:04 Speaker 03 I go, well, of course.
4:06 Speaker 04 Well, of course, you would actually gag over Ursula.
4:08 Speaker 03 C.S. Lewis.
4:09 Speaker 04 You would love Ursula.
4:10 Speaker 03 I would gag over Ursula.
4:11 Speaker 04 Yes. Different.
4:13 Speaker 03 Different.
4:14 Speaker 04 Different. You know, she's, there's, there's some overlap there. She's great.
4:17 Speaker 03 You'll love our guest today.
4:19 Speaker 04 You will love our guest today.
4:21 Speaker 03 She loves books as well. She has a whole book club. In fact, I go into the Barnes and Noble. Picture me there. Adrift.
4:28 Speaker 04 Adrift.
4:29 Speaker 03 I'm walking through not only one, not only two, not only seventeen, eighteen, nineteen books with the Read with Jenna watermark on it.
4:37 Speaker 04 It might as well be called Barnes and Read with Jenna.
4:40 Speaker 03 No bigger name in books than our guest.
4:42 Speaker 04 And J B H.
4:43 Speaker 03 And get this, now crossed over into movie stardom. She's here to promote the Devil Wears Prada 2.
4:49 Speaker 04 She is the star, she is the star writer, director of Devil Wears Prada 2.
4:54 Speaker 03 She did it all. No, really, she's got a cameo in the movie and it made me smile. I love the movie so much.
5:01 Speaker 04 I, I'm so happy for all involved.
5:04 Speaker 03 Yeah. And to top it all off, she's also one of America's most beloved, um, talk show hosts and television personalities.
5:12 Speaker 04 Someone who makes it effortlessly, look effortlessly competent. She is competent, makes it look effortless.
5:19 Speaker 03 Yeah. She's one of two people in the world in human history who have had their grandparent and their father be the president of the United States. The other person is her twin.
5:30 Speaker 04 Get that.
5:30 Speaker 06 By the way, that's good, good history. I was like, who's the other person?
5:35 Speaker 03 I've written a book before. Who's the other person? Did Don Quincy Adams have a-
5:40 Speaker 06 Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
5:41 Speaker 03 You know what? Fuck you guys. Fuck you both.
5:45 Speaker 06 That's what I was wondering. J Q, J Q A might have had children.
5:52 Speaker 04 Well, it's actually better that we know less about the presidents, I think.
5:56 Speaker 06 Yes.
5:56 Speaker 04 You know what I mean?
5:57 Speaker 03 Have some secrets to keep from us. Um, well, that was J Q A, but this is J B H. I am so excited.
6:04 Speaker 04 We love her so dearly. Everyone, please welcome-
6:07 Speaker 03 Our friend Jenna Bushager.
6:10 Speaker 06 Hi, guys.
6:11 Speaker 03 How's it going, girl?
6:12 Speaker 06 I'm so happy to see y'all.
6:14 Speaker 03 So happy to see you. Now you're a guest on our show.
6:16 Speaker 06 I know. I'm, I'm, I love, I mean, when Matt comes to my office-
6:20 Speaker 04 With Joe.
6:21 Speaker 06 When he is part of our show, I feel like everybody smiles a little bit.
6:25 Speaker 03 Oh, of course. These are my favorite things to go do.
6:28 Speaker 06 He's the best. Y'all are both the best.
6:30 Speaker 03 And Bowen, Bowen has guessed it as well.
6:32 Speaker 04 You don't have, you don't have to do, well, thank you, by the way, I will never stop thanking you for helping bring Adrian, my, my, my high school teacher.
6:40 Speaker 06 Yes.
6:40 Speaker 04 To the studio.
6:41 Speaker 06 Do you remember that?
6:42 Speaker 04 Oh, of course, I'll never forget it.
6:44 Speaker 06 And we brought Matt's mom.
6:45 Speaker 03 Oh. My mom came on for her television debut. She was pretty good.
6:50 Speaker 06 She was really excellent.
6:51 Speaker 03 She really was good.
6:52 Speaker 06 She was.
6:53 Speaker 03 How do you? She hit her beats.
6:54 Speaker 04 She hit her beats, because I, I, I have seen it up close in my time, in my little moments there, where it's like, oh, people are just like nervous to be on television live. Like, it is a really nerve wracking thing. What are, what are your little tricks to like bring these people to like a grounded place?
7:09 Speaker 06 I mean, I think just talking with them, you know, it's also how you interact when it, you're live, which is like, you're just yourself, you know, and if you can just be sitting in conversation with somebody and kind of like letting them know it's all gonna be okay, usually they're like, wow, that wasn't so bad, you know, because they're like, you just were the exact same when the camera was off as you were when it was on.
7:33 Speaker 03 Exactly. I was gonna say that, that, I remember one of our, one of my favorite TV appearances Bowen and I have ever done was the, when we were, it was you and I, we went to go promote Fire Island on Hoda and Jenna.
7:44 Speaker 06 Yes.
7:45 Speaker 03 And we went and it was, it was really one of the first like big TV things like we did together.
7:50 Speaker 04 Yes.
7:51 Speaker 03 But you guys, I'll never forget, what made it so fun and easy was hearing you and Hoda come around the corner in mid-conversation, like not stopping talking, et cetera, da, da, da, da, da, and you sat in the chair and you were like, hey, guys, what's up? And then the conversation just kept going from there.
8:07 Speaker 06 Oh.
8:08 Speaker 03 And I was like, wow, they really just walked in, sat in the chairs and were the exact same, and that made us feel like we could be ourselves. And it really was a model of great hosting.
8:20 Speaker 06 What about when you sang Rockefeller Sena?
8:23 Speaker 06 You're both, you're both did.
8:24 Speaker 03 We did.
8:25 Speaker 04 I didn't say.
8:26 Speaker 06 Well, you had a rap.
8:27 Speaker 04 I had a rap.
8:27 Speaker 03 He's a rapper.
8:28 Speaker 06 You had a rap.
8:29 Speaker 03 He's more of a rapper.
8:30 Speaker 04 People know me as a rapper. They know you as a movie star.
8:34 Speaker 06 Well, you guys, I was prepared to be cut. Let's be honest.
8:39 Speaker 03 I would imagine like, that's one of those nerve wracking things where it's like you do something that you know is cuttable, but then to still make it in.
8:45 Speaker 06 I couldn't believe it.
8:46 Speaker 03 And they kept it so that your whole name was in it. Miranda Priestly, um, basically, no, no, well, it's been out for a few weeks now.
8:53 Speaker 06 No, it came out Friday.
8:55 Speaker 03 No, I know, but this is coming out in a few weeks.
8:56 Speaker 06 Oh, oh.
8:58 Speaker 03 You have to understand.
8:58 Speaker 06 Magic podcasting.
9:00 Speaker 03 We're in the biz.
9:03 Speaker 03 So basically like Miranda has people over at her Hampton home, all fancy people and she's.
9:09 Speaker 06 John Batiste.
9:10 Speaker 03 And she goes, Jenna Bush Hager.
9:14 Speaker 06 In, in reality, I got there late because I was doing the show, you know, and I, so I got there as soon as I could. And they were like, okay, we need Jenna, Merrill and Anne. And I was like, wait, me Jenna? And there was no script, this part was unscripted.
9:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:32 Speaker 06 So they were like, okay, this is like, here's the, the director was like, here's the thing. She's got in this interview. She's going to introduce you because she's trying to like bring her in the fold of like the media, back into the media. So you're just supposed to like, say, great interview or good interview.
9:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just act natural, they said.
9:49 Speaker 06 Versus Meryl Streep.
9:50 Speaker 04 Versus Meryl Streep.
9:51 Speaker 06 Like, can you imagine?
9:53 Speaker 03 By the way, giving, like duh, like of course she gave the most incredible performance, but you just buy.
10:00 Speaker 06 She was so good.
10:01 Speaker 03 Every second of how that character has changed, not changed. You see so many different shades of Miranda Priestly. It's just, it's a.
10:10 Speaker 04 You know what blows my mind? And I was reminded on this press run was that she was supposed to retire around the time of the first movie.
10:17 Speaker 06 Do you know that she said, I interviewed them and she said, for the first time, she turned down the first movie.
10:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:23 Speaker 06 And then, and I couldn't believe it, but she turned it down because she was like, they, they're going to need me for this. And they're not paying me enough. So she asked for double what they offered her.
10:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:34 Speaker 06 And they, and she said, yeah, they said, yes, we need you.
10:37 Speaker 03 You do, you do. Figure though, like, what makes that movie, it's, there's so many things about it that make it iconic. But she is the center of why. I mean, she comes on screen and you're like, that's one of film's great characters.
10:51 Speaker 06 Yeah.
10:51 Speaker 03 In, at least in modern history, but probably forever.
10:55 Speaker 06 She's so good. And she also said in the first one, she method acted, acted because like the first she got there and she was like, playing around and Stanley's her friend and they were having fun. And then she would have to be cold and rude or whatever. And she just couldn't do it. So she realized like day two, she's like, I'm not going to be able to hang out with them.
11:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:12 Speaker 06 And then this time she was like, you know what? Fuck it.
11:15 Speaker 04 Well, cause I remember, fuck it. Cause I remember when the first movie came out, I was just on like Wikipedia and IMDb and like, I don't know. I think they like kind of glossed over this fact because it is like, it is like, whatever. People think about method in a certain way now. But apparently the press in the first one was that, um, like you're describing, Meryl was having a little too much fun. And then she goes, she turns to Anne Hathaway one day, like day two of shooting and she was like, this is the last compliment I will give you for the rest of the shoot.
11:49 Speaker 06 Yeah.
11:49 Speaker 04 You're an amazing actor. I'm so excited to do this with you.
11:52 Speaker 06 But that's it.
11:53 Speaker 04 This is the only nice thing I'm going to say to you for the rest of the shoot. Isn't that amazing?
11:56 Speaker 06 She said that she would hear them, like it kind of like was a sad sort of like, you know, like Great Gatsby, you know, where they see the green light that she would hear them all like having fun together and she'd be in her dressing room like
12:10 Speaker 03 sort of.
12:10 Speaker 06 Kind of mad because she wanted to make sure there was like this distance between them, which was so evident in the film.
12:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:17 Speaker 06 And then by this time, she's like, she's kind of lost her footing in the second one.
12:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:21 Speaker 06 And so, and she's a little bit more grounded as y'all know.
12:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:24 Speaker 06 And whoever's seen it knows.
12:26 Speaker 03 I've seen it. Yeah. I, I, I don't think he's had the chance. His back hurts so bad.
12:30 Speaker 06 I have a physical therapist for you because I have bad, bad back issues.
12:34 Speaker 04 What's, do you mind describing it?
12:37 Speaker 06 Yeah. I'm afraid, and this is personal.
12:39 Speaker 04 Please.
12:40 Speaker 06 But for me at least, was it your lower right, like in here?
12:43 Speaker 04 Lower left.
12:44 Speaker 06 Yes. So sometimes it's that your ass muscle is not strong enough.
12:48 Speaker 03 You gotta, you gotta do those things I was doing earlier.
12:51 Speaker 06 What, were you doing it earlier?
12:53 Speaker 03 Yeah. The, the squat to press.
12:54 Speaker 06 No, no, no, no. It's this, it's here. So you have to do what it called.
12:58 Speaker 04 The hip flexor, the abductor?
13:00 Speaker 06 No, you have to do like the clam shells, the clam shells on all fours.
13:05 Speaker 04 The hip flexor, no, I am.
13:07 Speaker 06 Oh, I like that where this is like, yes, right?
13:09 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
13:10 Speaker 06 And that's true, right?
13:11 Speaker 03 And Beck has back issues, she's saying.
13:13 Speaker 06 So, so I'll send you, but also it could be that you overuse your quads.
13:18 Speaker 03 You, have you ever seen his legs?
13:20 Speaker 06 They're excellent.
13:21 Speaker 03 Oh, my gosh.
13:22 Speaker 04 Don't even, Matt is so.
13:23 Speaker 03 Like John Cena, John Cena looks like a little bitch compared to Bowen.
13:27 Speaker 04 What they all said.
13:28 Speaker 06 But that's you overuse your quads.
13:29 Speaker 04 But I hope, I don't even think it's that, I think I just, I just pulled something.
13:33 Speaker 06 You tweeted, I know, but this will help so that you don't pull something.
13:35 Speaker 04 God, I need a PT, so bad.
13:37 Speaker 03 Looks, it sounds like, and by the way, I always take your recommendations because you know who I met through the show.
13:42 Speaker 06 Who?
13:43 Speaker 03 Dr. Dendi.
13:44 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah.
13:44 Speaker 04 What's, who's Dr. Dendi?
13:46 Speaker 03 Dr. Dendi Engelmann, hon. Tell Bowen about, tell Bowen and everyone at home about Dr. Dendi.
13:51 Speaker 06 Dr. Dendi's on our show, she's a dermatologist.
13:54 Speaker 04 Oh, I've seen Dr. Dendi.
13:55 Speaker 06 Yes, and I can't remember what, why, but.
13:58 Speaker 03 I don't, it was the first week I was hosting, which was, ended up being a really fortuitous week because, is that the right word?
14:04 Speaker 04 Yes.
14:04 Speaker 06 Yeah, sure.
14:05 Speaker 03 Um, thanks, guys.
14:06 Speaker 04 You know the word.
14:07 Speaker 06 You read?
14:08 Speaker 03 Do you read?
14:10 Speaker 04 No, the answer is no.
14:11 Speaker 06 So, Randy, you're writing a book, you do too read.
14:14 Speaker 03 Can I say something? This narrative that I don't read must end.
14:17 Speaker 04 No, you, you push it!
14:19 Speaker 03 I don't push it.
14:20 Speaker 06 You said that you were in Barnes and Noble, like, wandering.
14:24 Speaker 03 That's because I usually go to a local bookshop.
14:27 Speaker 06 That's right.
14:27 Speaker 03 An independent bookstore.
14:28 Speaker 06 Support your indies, that's right, or a library.
14:30 Speaker 03 You can find me there most days of the week, uh, Monday through Thursday, I'm probably at my local independent bookstore.
14:35 Speaker 06 Why did we bring up Dr. Dendi? What was the point?
14:38 Speaker 03 Because I was saying that you.
14:39 Speaker 06 But what was fortuitous?
14:40 Speaker 03 What was fortuitous was, that ended up being an amazing week because I think that's also the week I met the dog, Matt Rogers.
14:46 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah, that's right.
14:46 Speaker 04 Oh, that was such a good week.
14:47 Speaker 06 That's right, who got adopted right after.
14:49 Speaker 03 Right after that, which made me so happy.
14:50 Speaker 06 And there was a dog, Bowen Yang, yeah.
14:52 Speaker 03 I can still see, uh, Matt Rogers, the dog, because the people that, that adopted him, follow me.
15:00 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
15:01 Speaker 03 And I follow them back now.
15:02 Speaker 06 Oh, so you can see pictures of it?
15:03 Speaker 03 They post all the time, I'm essentially, I'm the dog's godfather.
15:06 Speaker 06 You follow Matt Rogers on Insta?
15:08 Speaker 03 Yes.
15:08 Speaker 06 Do you ever DM him?
15:09 Speaker 03 They kept the name, too.
15:10 Speaker 06 Do you ever DM Matt?
15:11 Speaker 03 No, I don't, well, the, the parents, yes, because they'll be posting. Thing with him, it's, it's, it's a relationship. But anyway, back to Dr. Dendi.
15:19 Speaker 06 Yes.
15:19 Speaker 03 So that was the week that I first guest hosted and I remember you, she came in to talk about skincare solutions and secrets.
15:25 Speaker 06 Yeah.
15:26 Speaker 03 Whatever it was.
15:26 Speaker 06 It's like skincare around the world.
15:28 Speaker 03 She was so nice and you guys were so warm together and that you were like, you have to go to Dr. Dendi. Went to her, got my this done. What's this called?
15:35 Speaker 04 Elevens?
15:36 Speaker 03 Got my elevens.
15:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:37 Speaker 06 A little botox, right?
15:38 Speaker 03 Little botox.
15:38 Speaker 04 Little tox.
15:39 Speaker 06 I didn't know if I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna, you know, air your dirty secrets. It's not dirty. We all need it.
15:44 Speaker 03 I'm upfront about the work I've had.
15:46 Speaker 06 Good. Which has been very little.
15:50 Speaker 04 Very so little.
15:51 Speaker 03 The nose and I got a little in my elevens. That's it.
15:54 Speaker 06 You look handsome.
15:55 Speaker 03 Thank you so much.
15:56 Speaker 04 So handsome. Now that the thing is minimalism, the derms are like, well, I'm a, I'm a botox minimalist.
16:02 Speaker 06 I know.
16:03 Speaker 04 And I'm like, that's so funny that you can identify
16:08 Speaker 04 as someone who like
16:09 Speaker 06 I'm always like, I could use a little more, but then I think everybody's so scared because we're on TV that all of a sudden I couldn't move my face.
16:16 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
16:16 Speaker 06 And my daughter the other day was like, mom, you know, you could probably use a little botox. And I'm like, Mila, I get botox.
16:24 Speaker 03 This is Mila. Mila drags you.
16:26 Speaker 06 I know, man. She really does. If you feel like you're like too big for your britches, get a 13 year old to hang out with you for a little. She's like, and your hair highlights, like I can see your grays. And I, and by the way, I do, by the way, I do like change accordingly. Like I made an appointment.
16:42 Speaker 03 Oh.
16:42 Speaker 06 And, and I, I just interviewed, um,
16:45 Speaker 03 You let her believe.
16:46 Speaker 06 And I did her introduction and I read her the introduction and she goes, it's too much about you, mom. And then I was like, come on, Mila. Woke up at four in the morning and I was like,
16:54 Speaker 03 It's too much.
16:54 Speaker 06 She's right.
16:55 Speaker 03 She's tormenting you.
16:56 Speaker 06 I'm gonna, she's right. It's four in the morning. I'm like, I'm gonna go rewrite this introduction at 4 a.m.
17:01 Speaker 03 Do you think she actually was right or do you think she just got in your head?
17:04 Speaker 06 No, I think she was right.
17:05 Speaker 03 Wow.
17:06 Speaker 04 Damn.
17:06 Speaker 06 And I also think that thought of, you know, being humble and not making everything about ourselves, like coming from a 13 year old. I was like, you know what? If she says that at all, then I'm going to go in there and fix it.
17:19 Speaker 04 Totally. Are you as critical with her writing?
17:23 Speaker 06 No.
17:24 Speaker 04 See, this is, I wish you could just skip the teen years. I, I, I, the, the reason I'm not a parent is because I gotta sit through that.
17:31 Speaker 06 I know.
17:32 Speaker 03 Well, there's the horrible part in the beginning too. Where they're, where they're just little, you know.
17:37 Speaker 04 Screaming.
17:38 Speaker 03 The horrible part where they're, I guess, when they're babies. Oh, horrible. Just screaming. You never know what it is. You know, our friend just had a baby. She's going, Sudi.
17:48 Speaker 04 Sudi, hi baby.
17:48 Speaker 06 Don't you like, I'm like, who? For some reason, I thought it was Dave, but Dave just got engaged.
17:53 Speaker 03 First of all.
17:53 Speaker 06 Dave just got engaged.
17:54 Speaker 03 Dave just got engaged. And you don't call him Dave, you call him what?
17:57 Speaker 06 The tomato guy.
17:58 Speaker 04 The tomato guy. He loves, he would love that.
18:00 Speaker 06 Yeah.
18:00 Speaker 04 He loves it.
18:01 Speaker 06 Dave, I call him Dave comma the tomato guy.
18:03 Speaker 03 Dave comma the tomato guy. We had to do this one thing.
18:06 Speaker 06 And in fact, I saw y'all's mutual friend and I'm like, Dave got engaged!
18:09 Speaker 04 No!
18:10 Speaker 06 I saw a scene of Eddie's grocery, you know.
18:12 Speaker 03 Eddie, yeah, Eddie's grocery.
18:14 Speaker 06 Eddie's grocery. And I'm like, can you believe Dave got engaged? This is what Matt has done to our show. He's just infused his.
18:19 Speaker 04 No, I love to bring.
18:21 Speaker 06 Into every little part of it.
18:23 Speaker 03 I bring the LCU to.
18:25 Speaker 06 Yes.
18:25 Speaker 03 Sitting with Jenna and friends.
18:26 Speaker 06 That's right.
18:27 Speaker 04 Could you ever believe, with Jenna and Chanel, could you ever believe, did you ever believe that you would have this impact on today?
18:33 Speaker 06 No!
18:34 Speaker 04 His, his, his.
18:35 Speaker 03 My family was traditional family.
18:36 Speaker 06 I know.
18:37 Speaker 04 Thing. Yeah, big time.
18:38 Speaker 06 I know, it was so fun. I mean, and it's still gonna happen. That's like, I just, whenever, I'm like, is Matt available? You could sit next to a tree and have chemistry.
18:47 Speaker 04 Literally. He, he already does. I'm tree.
18:49 Speaker 06 No!
18:51 Speaker 03 You're, you're just stumping right now because of your back.
18:53 Speaker 04 I'm stiff, like a tree.
18:55 Speaker 03 She's stumped.
18:56 Speaker 04 She's stumped.
18:57 Speaker 03 Wait, what were we just saying though, before we got onto that tangent?
18:59 Speaker 04 Dendi.
19:00 Speaker 03 Oh, well, yeah, you just, you're, you're a great connector of people.
19:03 Speaker 06 Oh, well, thank you.
19:04 Speaker 04 How was, what was, what was interviewing King and, or was it just the Queen?
19:08 Speaker 06 Yes.
19:08 Speaker 04 What the hell was that like?
19:11 Speaker 06 I was nervous.
19:11 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:12 Speaker 03 And we're calling her Queen?
19:13 Speaker 04 She is technically the Queen.
19:15 Speaker 03 That's her title, she is the Queen. Okay, I'm just saying! I don't know, American as hell. I thought she was the Queen consort. I didn't know what the word, of course, what the word consort was at all.
19:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:25 Speaker 06 I'm not sure either, but it is, but now she's the queen. She loves books. So we were at the New York Public Library.
19:30 Speaker 04 Oh.
19:30 Speaker 06 But Anna Wintour was there, Sarah Jessica Parker. It was all these sort of people that love to read.
19:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:37 Speaker 06 And then these authors whom I admire. So I wasn't nervous, you know, and I'm not really used to being nervous, but I kind of like it. Like, I kind of like to continue to push myself to feel that, you know, because otherwise, I mean, I've been at NBC for 16 years.
19:52 Speaker 03 Right.
19:53 Speaker 06 So it's sometimes you can get complacent and be like, what is, what feels fresh, what feels new? And so that's sort of like how it felt.
20:01 Speaker 04 Can I say, I went back into the building for the first time last week.
20:04 Speaker 06 Yes, how was it?
20:05 Speaker 04 Fine, and also a little weird.
20:07 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:07 Speaker 04 And, and what you're saying is something that I, I guess I'm going to say I took for granted, like, you would just run into different kinds of people all the time. Not even like,
20:17 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:18 Speaker 04 Not even, not even like high profile quote unquote people who would come in. I'm just saying like everyone, like just the crews and everything.
20:23 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:24 Speaker 04 All the staffs and like, I love that it's an office building.
20:27 Speaker 06 I know.
20:27 Speaker 04 I love that the SNL offices were like, or the studio was next to the Seth Meyers office.
20:32 Speaker 06 Was next to the gym, which I work out in every morning.
20:35 Speaker 04 I never did it once.
20:36 Speaker 06 And every Monday that there's a live show, I'm like, it's kind of gross, but there's like, I'm like, they've used this bathroom. I'm not sure for what, but like,
20:46 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
20:46 Speaker 06 I take a shower and like things are, you know, all over the place. I'm like, what, who's been in here?
20:50 Speaker 04 What who's described?
20:51 Speaker 06 I don't know.
20:53 Speaker 03 The shower area?
20:54 Speaker 06 Shower area has been used.
20:56 Speaker 03 Wait.
20:56 Speaker 06 The towels are all gone, you know, and it's like, did they not use the showers?
21:01 Speaker 04 I don't think, it's not, SNL folks don't really use it. I think it's mostly people from downstairs who come up.
21:05 Speaker 06 Okay.
21:06 Speaker 03 Wait, have you eaten at the Luke's Lobster?
21:09 Speaker 06 Yes, I've ate.
21:11 Speaker 03 I didn't know they had that. I said, they've got everything down here.
21:14 Speaker 06 I know.
21:14 Speaker 04 They do.
21:15 Speaker 03 They have everything in the concourse. It's actually a rule of culture number eight. They have everything in the concourse.
21:20 Speaker 06 A rule of culture number 14, you don't want lobster on a Monday, though, you know, you're not going to get a lobster roll because you've had a long weekend. You want a lobster roll to start your week?
21:30 Speaker 04 You can't start heavy.
21:31 Speaker 06 You can't start with a lobster roll.
21:32 Speaker 03 Best day for a lobster roll?
21:33 Speaker 06 Friday. Saturday.
21:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:35 Speaker 06 You know, with like where you feel free.
21:37 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah, where you feel free.
21:40 Speaker 04 Wait, wait, you, you know what I, you know what the concourse doesn't have? And I don't know how you feel about this.
21:45 Speaker 06 What?
21:45 Speaker 04 Every day I've been begging for the Hal and Hardy soup to come back.
21:50 Speaker 06 What happened to that hill in Hardy? It just disappeared out of nowhere.
21:54 Speaker 03 That's ridiculous.
21:55 Speaker 06 They're all gone?
21:56 Speaker 04 There's like one on like 34th and Lexington. Like who's going there?
22:03 Speaker 03 The sheer amount of options for soup that they would give. I I've never seen anything like it.
22:08 Speaker 04 No.
22:09 Speaker 03 And I and you have to understand, I'm a huge soup fan.
22:11 Speaker 06 Me too. I love soup so much. I actually used to have the soup from Juice Press, which is a strange and it's out. It's out of season. They stop it in the summer months.
22:22 Speaker 03 That's not okay. Because of ingredients?
22:24 Speaker 06 Well, I think because it's, you know, people don't want something hot when it's warm outside.
22:27 Speaker 03 I disagree entirely. And anyone that's out there like it's too hot for soup?
22:32 Speaker 04 No.
22:32 Speaker 03 Oh, you just haven't thought of what soup to get.
22:36 Speaker 06 Exactly.
22:37 Speaker 03 You don't have like beef barley in the summer.
22:38 Speaker 06 A little mint, a little minty kind of pea soup sounds good to me.
22:42 Speaker 03 Now you're talking too crazy for me. Are you a gazpacho queen?
22:45 Speaker 06 I like gazpacho.
22:47 Speaker 04 I'll have it once a summer and I'm like, oh, I'm good.
22:49 Speaker 06 Because it's too.
22:51 Speaker 03 It's too.
22:53 Speaker 06 I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
22:55 Speaker 03 Soup just it's.
22:56 Speaker 06 See, my mom never cooked. I don't know about your your parents, but my mother did not cook. So we would, she would get that bean with bacon soup. That was like Campbell's, which was like basically your sodium intake for the year.
23:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:10 Speaker 06 And open it up. But like that with like those saltine crackers with the covered in a little cheese melted in the toaster oven.
23:15 Speaker 04 So you like this?
23:16 Speaker 06 Oh, I loved it.
23:17 Speaker 04 Okay, great.
23:17 Speaker 06 I mean, now, was it good for me? And and probably not.
23:21 Speaker 03 Who's to say?
23:21 Speaker 06 Bean with bacon?
23:22 Speaker 03 We didn't know.
23:23 Speaker 06 Probably not, but was it delicious? Sure.
23:25 Speaker 03 Would you feed the kids now?
23:26 Speaker 06 A bean with bacon? I'm not sure that they still make bean with bacon, but beans are one of my favorite food groups.
23:31 Speaker 03 Beans?
23:32 Speaker 06 I grew up in Texas.
23:33 Speaker 04 That's Texas. I was gonna say. Beans are, beans are Texan down.
23:36 Speaker 06 And they're good. They're protein.
23:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:38 Speaker 06 Veggie protein.
23:39 Speaker 03 You know what always chased me away from beans?
23:41 Speaker 06 What, the poem?
23:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, the poem.
23:44 Speaker 06 Was it the poem?
23:44 Speaker 03 Beans, beans, they're good for your heart. The more you eat, the more you fart. I just don't like it. It's not, it's uncouth. It's untoward.
23:51 Speaker 04 I've never heard this poem.
23:53 Speaker 03 Oh, God.
23:53 Speaker 04 I didn't know you guys knew the poem.
23:54 Speaker 06 Beans, beans, magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you toot.
23:58 Speaker 03 Because you grew up in a refined atmosphere.
24:00 Speaker 06 The more you toot, the better you feel. So eat those beans at every meal.
24:03 Speaker 03 At every meal.
24:03 Speaker 03 Oh, my God, where is? Is this from the Bean Council? Who made this?
24:07 Speaker 06 We don't know, but we learned it in like third grade.
24:10 Speaker 03 Same.
24:11 Speaker 04 Oh, I love that.
24:12 Speaker 03 Also, frequent tooting, I don't feel good. Like, the more you toot, the better you feel. I don't think so at all.
24:16 Speaker 06 No, that's not right.
24:17 Speaker 03 I'm in a panic about who can smell it, why it's happening, will it stop?
24:22 Speaker 04 Beans.
24:23 Speaker 03 All these are beans.
24:24 Speaker 06 I mean, how did I get you all here? I'm not sure, but.
24:27 Speaker 04 Oh, just come along.
24:29 Speaker 06 Yeah, just sit down.
24:30 Speaker 03 You're here.
24:31 Speaker 04 Come along.
24:32 Speaker 03 We've invoked the name of Texas.
24:34 Speaker 04 Yes, the name.
24:35 Speaker 03 We have our guest here, and it's a thrill to be able to ask you the central question of our podcast, ABH.
24:41 Speaker 06 Yes.
24:41 Speaker 03 Jenna, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
24:44 Speaker 06 Okay, you ready?
24:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:46 Speaker 06 It was 1988.
24:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:47 Speaker 06 It was the combination of two things. It was Ann M. Martin's The Babysitter's Club.
24:53 Speaker 03 Oh, wow.
24:54 Speaker 06 Reading that Logan vs. Mary Ann, which was kind of like as romantic as you could get, you know, back in, in the eighties. And there was like, I was like, oh, maybe I'm not just like a chubby little kid from Texas. Maybe there is romance and entrepreneurship and a girl gang waiting for me.
25:10 Speaker 03 It was entrepreneurship.
25:11 Speaker 06 Entrepreneurship waiting for me like in my, you know, friend's backyard. And we actually made a babysitter's club.
25:17 Speaker 03 Did you?
25:18 Speaker 04 How did it go?
25:19 Speaker 06 Well, not great because we didn't have access to a phone.
25:24 Speaker 03 That's a huge part of it.
25:25 Speaker 06 And we were also babies.
25:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:27 Speaker 06 Babies babysitting babies.
25:28 Speaker 04 Babies babysitting babies.
25:29 Speaker 06 I did, I babysat.
25:30 Speaker 04 Yes.
25:31 Speaker 06 But it like, the whole club didn't really get in, you know?
25:33 Speaker 04 Totally.
25:34 Speaker 06 And why did we need a treasurer? You know, like, what was a treasurer for?
25:38 Speaker 03 I mean.
25:39 Speaker 06 I loved Claudia, don't get me wrong.
25:40 Speaker 04 Right.
25:41 Speaker 06 But then it's that coupled with the same year, Paula Abdul's album, Straight Up.
25:48 Speaker 03 Straight Up.
25:48 Speaker 06 But particularly the video for Opposites a Track with Scott the Cat.
25:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, DJ Scott.
25:55 Speaker 06 DJ Scott the Cat dancing with Paula.
25:59 Speaker 03 DJ Scott Cat?
26:00 Speaker 06 It's Scott Cat. It's definitely Scott Cat. I loved cats. I had a cat.
26:03 Speaker 03 We go together, cause opposites attract.
26:06 Speaker 06 And also that, what's the one that's like, oh, straight up now, tell me.
26:14 Speaker 06 Are you just having fun?
26:18 Speaker 06 That album, which was a tape for me.
26:21 Speaker 03 He had a cassette.
26:22 Speaker 06 Cassette tape. Coupled with reading The Babysitter's Club.
26:27 Speaker 03 You said it's time to empower.
26:29 Speaker 06 I was like, you know what? Let's go scat.
26:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, you're ready to grow up.
26:33 Speaker 06 Scat.
26:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:34 Speaker 06 Let's go scat.
26:36 Speaker 04 You had a pop star, a cartoon cat, and these little girls running a business.
26:40 Speaker 06 Right?
26:41 Speaker 04 And that's, that's who you are.
26:42 Speaker 06 Yeah, I was like, I am going, I'm gonna take my cats with me wherever I go, and I have.
26:47 Speaker 03 You were ready to enter a prize.
26:48 Speaker 06 Mango and Maisie, shout out.
26:50 Speaker 03 Two cats.
26:50 Speaker 06 Two cats.
26:51 Speaker 03 Are you worried that they one time are gonna do what a lot of the cats are doing on reels? I, uh, suddenly I've been fed.
26:58 Speaker 06 No, no, those cats are AI.
27:00 Speaker 03 Are you sure?
27:01 Speaker 06 Am I worried what the cats are gonna do?
27:02 Speaker 03 What are the cats doing? It's like, it's like this, like, footage, it's this footage from, like, night vision cameras, where someone is sleeping and they have two cats, and the two cats start to like get into it, and next thing you know, they're flying all around the room having a.
27:17 Speaker 06 See, I see AI cats on my, my, I have a different, I have a different algorithm.
27:21 Speaker 03 AI cats, the ones that are like.
27:22 Speaker 06 That do like the dives off the diving board.
27:25 Speaker 03 We, we.
27:26 Speaker 04 No, we're, yeah, that's.
27:27 Speaker 06 No, I'm not worried that they're gonna do that. I'm not worried about that.
27:30 Speaker 03 Here's. My AI is now all Donald Trump doing a stank walk down a board, during the boardwalk, to the song, uh, One Step at a Time by Jordan Sparks. I don't know how it happened.
27:41 Speaker 06 Well, that's a very specific algorithm.
27:42 Speaker 03 It's literally just him walking in, it's AI Trump walking in heels and hot pink shorts to.
27:53 Speaker 03 You know the song.
27:55 Speaker 06 Other people know it too.
27:56 Speaker 04 It's polluting her algorithm too.
27:59 Speaker 03 Because it's so absurd.
28:00 Speaker 06 Why? Because you're, now it's polluting all of ours because our phones are listening.
28:03 Speaker 04 And she's, she's with him constantly, of course.
28:07 Speaker 03 And I also, and whenever I get it, I send it, I send it to. People.
28:10 Speaker 06 To Melissa.
28:11 Speaker 04 So funny.
28:12 Speaker 03 I I've become that person that sends reels.
28:14 Speaker 06 Memes.
28:16 Speaker 03 Memes.
28:17 Speaker 06 You're sending memes to people?
28:19 Speaker 04 Are you getting into kids memes? No, well, they're not on their phones.
28:22 Speaker 06 No, they don't have.
28:23 Speaker 04 Thank God for you.
28:24 Speaker 06 I'm holding out.
28:25 Speaker 03 But don't you feel that you're keeping them?
28:28 Speaker 06 I signed Wait Till Eight, so Mila's close. She's 13. She's the last one.
28:32 Speaker 04 Poppy's? No, Poppy's older?
28:33 Speaker 06 Poppy's 10. No, Mila's the oldest.
28:34 Speaker 04 Got it, got it, got it.
28:35 Speaker 03 Okay, so do you, are you, when you're referencing the time of when you found Paula Abdul?
28:42 Speaker 06 Yes.
28:42 Speaker 03 Is that around where Mila is now?
28:44 Speaker 06 No, I think I was, no, I was younger. I was like seven or eight.
28:48 Speaker 03 Okay.
28:48 Speaker 06 Ten, nine, 10, that type of age. Mila's Paula is Olivia Rodrigo.
28:54 Speaker 04 Oh.
28:55 Speaker 06 She loves Olivia Rodrigo. It's her number one. I mean, she loves Sabrina. She, we went to the Eras tour. She loves, loves Taylor. Um, she loves Gracie Abrams. We went to that, you know, she loves her.
29:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:06 Speaker 06 But for whatever reason, Olivia Rodrigo is her gold.
29:10 Speaker 04 Love it.
29:10 Speaker 06 Standard.
29:11 Speaker 03 I think it's because she very much is the one.
29:14 Speaker 06 You think so?
29:15 Speaker 03 I think Olivia is the one rising.
29:18 Speaker 04 She stands out. She's doing something, she's in her own lane.
29:22 Speaker 06 She has some music that's like a little bit rageier, which I think teens want.
29:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:27 Speaker 06 Because they feel that sort of angst and they want to, you know, we like, I was like Nirvana, you know, which is not a, I'm like, we were kind of like, I went to a concert, Pearl Jam, and I looked up and my tiny little sister, who's still really little, was like crowd surfing.
29:43 Speaker 03 Oh.
29:44 Speaker 06 And I was like, oh no, and she has back problems. I'm like, you know why you have back problems? They dropped you in that crowd surfing. But I think teens want like an outlet for some of that shit.
29:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she provides.
29:55 Speaker 06 Provides that.
29:56 Speaker 03 I do think that what Billie Eilish does is a little bit more esoteric.
30:00 Speaker 06 Yes.
30:01 Speaker 03 It's a little bit more like emotional and like in a, in a way that she's cerebral.
30:06 Speaker 04 Yes.
30:06 Speaker 03 Whereas Olivia is speaking directly to these emotions in the same way that Taylor did.
30:12 Speaker 06 Yes.
30:13 Speaker 03 And I think it's, it is a generational thing.
30:16 Speaker 04 To me, it's about like the, the, the depth. In terms of like Billy doing something like subconscious, it's tapping into something like, like I, I love that she's still obsessed with like sleep and like all this stuff.
30:27 Speaker 06 Yes.
30:28 Speaker 04 With Olivia, it's like, this is right on, like right on like my sleeve.
30:33 Speaker 06 Mm-hmm.
30:33 Speaker 04 It's, it's, you, you, you get it. You, you, I feel like it's very legible to someone like me.
30:38 Speaker 06 Who's 13 years old.
30:39 Speaker 04 Who's 13 years old.
30:39 Speaker 06 Yes.
30:40 Speaker 04 Well, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Paula, was that the same album as Cold Hearted Snake or no?
30:44 Speaker 06 Yes.
30:45 Speaker 04 Yes.
30:45 Speaker 06 She's a cold-hearted snake, looking into your eyes. Uh-oh, uh-oh, he's been telling lies. He's all of a boy and play, he don't play by the rules. Uh-oh. I mean, by the way, how do we know every word to that song that we haven't heard?
31:02 Speaker 04 It's in here because you know why? The cassette is like giving you a, a sense of place and time.
31:07 Speaker 06 Yes.
31:08 Speaker 04 And you're reading Babysitters Club, like you're in your room. I'm sure it's so vivid.
31:11 Speaker 06 Yes.
31:12 Speaker 04 Like now, like everything's served up to me in a way, and I'm sure it's a function of age, like, you know, neuroplasticity imprinting, but I'm like, oh, I don't, this doesn't, I'm not gonna remember this. Like the discovery of this new artist in the same way. I discover, I remember where I was when I discovered Driver's License, Olivia.
31:27 Speaker 03 I told him on this podcast, I was like, have you heard of Olivia Rodrigo? He was like, no. I was like, well, you might be hearing about it.
31:36 Speaker 03 Hey, Bowen, point of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore.
31:40 Speaker 04 Point of answer, it's because everything has a catch.
31:42 Speaker 03 Hey, or it turns out to be something else entirely.
31:45 Speaker 04 Like a total catfish situation.
31:46 Speaker 03 Exactly, Bo.
31:47 Speaker 04 Except for hotels.com.
31:49 Speaker 03 Hmm, yeah, that one's pretty literal.
31:50 Speaker 04 Because it's hotels.com. It's in the domain. You go there, you book hotels, hundreds of thousands of them.
31:56 Speaker 03 And hold up, that's it?
31:58 Speaker 04 That's it. And when stays are booked as a member, rewards are earned every time.
32:02 Speaker 03 Every stay?
32:03 Speaker 04 Every stay. No tracking or managing, just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings.
32:08 Speaker 03 Which by the way, already feels nicer than most rewards programs, okay?
32:11 Speaker 04 Yeah. Members can also get up to 20% off bookings, so savings start right away.
32:15 Speaker 03 Does that mean no weird restrictions?
32:17 Speaker 04 And no blackout dates. Book what works, when it works. It's actually really fitting of real travel.
32:23 Speaker 03 So the name is honest, you're saying? And the rewards are too?
32:27 Speaker 04 Exactly. Hotels.com, it's all.
32:29 Speaker 03 The name.
32:30 Speaker 04 Okay, readers, we gotta discuss a vacation that's not just a vacation. It's a statement.
32:36 Speaker 03 Virgin Voyages. Adults only. Yes, a child-free sanctuary at sea. It's giving serenity. It's giving sexy European summer. It's giving, I deserve this.
32:47 Speaker 04 They're sailing the Caribbean and the Mediterranean, obviously, but now they've added the West Coast and Alaska. So whether you want golden hour off California or full cinematic glacier core main character energy, they said, reign.
33:00 Speaker 03 And the awards. At this point, it's less award-winning cruise line and more, do we just engrave their name on the trophy? They've won so many travel awards, the ships might sweep our culture awards. Slay of the sea. Excellence in poolside looks. Outstanding achievement in top-deck behavior.
33:14 Speaker 04 Over 20 eateries. Epic entertainment, fitness classes, wifi, all included. Luxury without the nickel and diming.
33:21 Speaker 03 Virgin Voyages.
33:22 Speaker 04 Sailors, consider yourselves called.
33:24 Speaker 03 So if you're ready to trade the group chat drama for glacier views, poolside looks, and zero children, head to virginvoyages.com. Say it with me. Virginvoyages.com. Or hand it off to your travel advisor and let them do the Googling. You probably think dressing well takes lots of money or lots of time spent digging through thrift stores.
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34:39 Speaker 03 Okay, we've been talking about QP Mail for a minute now, Bo, and wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff.
34:47 Speaker 04 You're stopping us in the street going, "I love QP." And if you're thinking, "Wait, what is QP?" Uh, do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise, the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.
35:00 Speaker 03 Once you know it, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo. Well, the answer? Egg yolks.
35:07 Speaker 04 QP is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles.
35:18 Speaker 03 Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it.
35:23 Speaker 04 Whatever you're eating, QP it. So if you haven't tried QP yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. QP, the original Japanese mayonnaise.
35:35 Speaker 03 Hey, Bo, in point of order, it feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore.
35:39 Speaker 04 Point of answer, it's because everything has a catch.
35:42 Speaker 03 Hey, or it turns out to be something else entirely.
35:44 Speaker 04 Like a total catfish situation.
35:46 Speaker 03 Exactly, Bo.
35:46 Speaker 04 Except for hotels.com.
35:48 Speaker 03 Hmm, yeah, that one's pretty literal.
35:49 Speaker 04 Because it's hotels.com, it's in the domain. You go there, you book hotels, hundreds of thousands of them.
35:56 Speaker 03 And hold up, that's it?
35:58 Speaker 04 That's it, and when stays are booked as a member, rewards are earned every time.
36:01 Speaker 03 Every stay?
36:02 Speaker 04 Every stay, no tracking or managing, just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings.
36:07 Speaker 03 Which, by the way, already feels nicer than most rewards programs, okay?
36:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, members can also get up to 20% off bookings, so savings start right away.
36:15 Speaker 03 Does that mean no weird restrictions?
36:16 Speaker 04 And no blackout dates, book what works when it works. It's actually really fitting of real travel.
36:23 Speaker 03 So the name is honest, you're saying? And the rewards are too?
36:26 Speaker 04 Exactly. Hotels.com, it's all in the name.
36:29 Speaker 03 You know what my favorite Paula Abdul song is? It's only a little ironic, her ballad Rush Rush.
36:35 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah.
36:36 Speaker 03 Never forget the bridge when she belted for the first and only time. So deep, so deep, so deep inside.
36:44 Speaker 06 But that's not, I don't think that's, I think that's her first one, right?
36:47 Speaker 03 Uh.
36:48 Speaker 06 That's not the same album.
36:49 Speaker 04 Okay, see, this is where.
36:50 Speaker 03 She was then trying to prove she could sing.
36:52 Speaker 04 Right, right, right.
36:53 Speaker 06 Which she did.
36:54 Speaker 04 And what she did, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:56 Speaker 03 So deep, so deep, so deep.
37:01 Speaker 03 You see, you hear the, you hear the mic go far away.
37:03 Speaker 06 Yes, exactly.
37:04 Speaker 04 How many cabinet positions were there in your babysitter's club? Were you treasurer? Was that what you were saying?
37:10 Speaker 06 I think I was, I can't remember if I was treasurer or vice president, which is also a job.
37:16 Speaker 03 You were like, trust me. Vice president is a thankless job.
37:21 Speaker 06 I was like, guys, should we try to go around door to door? What should we do here?
37:26 Speaker 04 Were there four of you?
37:27 Speaker 06 It was my sister, our next door neighbor, Robin Oxford.
37:31 Speaker 04 Robin.
37:31 Speaker 06 Who my mom didn't allow, she allowed bean with bacon, but she didn't have sweets in the house. So we would climb through Robin Oxford's window and steal her twinkies and such.
37:41 Speaker 06 Yeah. It was, and then it was a boy and, and yeah, two boys, brothers. And we actually painted their little back house. We sponge painted it. How 80s was that? Do you remember sponge painting?
37:56 Speaker 03 They were babysitters in the club?
37:57 Speaker 06 They were part of our club. I don't know that they actually babysat.
38:00 Speaker 03 Young gay boys in the, in the neighborhood. You don't know that they babysat?
38:05 Speaker 06 Well, it was a club. I'm not sure they actually babysat. I did.
38:09 Speaker 04 You did. But were there four positions?
38:12 Speaker 06 So Robin, my sister Barbara, did I mention her? I hope so.
38:16 Speaker 04 Yes.
38:16 Speaker 06 Me and then.
38:17 Speaker 04 Sissy.
38:18 Speaker 06 Sissy. There were five of us. Secretary, treasurer.
38:22 Speaker 04 Vice president.
38:22 Speaker 06 Vice president, president, and probably surgeon at arms.
38:25 Speaker 04 Surgeon at arms?
38:26 Speaker 06 Surgeon at arms.
38:27 Speaker 04 Well, I was gonna say.
38:28 Speaker 06 I don't know what a surgeon at arms does, but.
38:30 Speaker 04 Me neither.
38:30 Speaker 06 Something.
38:31 Speaker 04 Cause in the babysitter's club, there were four of them, right?
38:33 Speaker 06 Yes.
38:33 Speaker 04 And I was gonna say like. Right?
38:36 Speaker 06 Stacy, Claudia, Christie, Mary Ann.
38:40 Speaker 04 I know there were more than four.
38:41 Speaker 06 Wasn't there, and Dawn.
38:43 Speaker 04 And Dawn.
38:43 Speaker 06 Cause Dawn moved from California. Did you ever read the babysitter's club?
38:47 Speaker 04 A couple because, so my contraband, growing up as a little closeted boy was just. Sneaking into my sister's room and stealing her books.
38:54 Speaker 06 Yeah.
38:55 Speaker 04 And I would.
38:55 Speaker 06 Did you read Judy Blume?
38:56 Speaker 04 I didn't read Judy Blume, but you know, you know what the big standout like thing that I hid under my bed was was Sister of the Traveling Pants?
39:02 Speaker 06 Yeah.
39:03 Speaker 04 I was like, I can't have anyone find, I can't have her find, my, my parents could, would see and be like, that's weird. But she would immediately be like, you're gay, you're reading a girl's book.
39:11 Speaker 06 Yeah.
39:12 Speaker 04 But I, God, like, isn't that, ooh, I love like.
39:15 Speaker 06 I know.
39:15 Speaker 04 A book that you're not supposed to read.
39:17 Speaker 06 Yes.
39:18 Speaker 04 You know?
39:18 Speaker 06 Yes, and honestly, even when, when I, Judy Blume gave me, Are You There God, It's Me, Margaret, which is Mila's real name, I'm like, oh my God, I'm gonna give that to Mila, and she said, you can't give that to Mila. You can't give it to Mila, she doesn't want a recommendation from her mother.
39:35 Speaker 04 Wait.
39:35 Speaker 06 Hide it somewhere and let her find it.
39:37 Speaker 04 Oh.
39:38 Speaker 06 And I think it's so right, like, kids need to be empowered to find their own sort of way, like.
39:42 Speaker 04 Yep.
39:43 Speaker 06 Nobody gave you that book.
39:44 Speaker 04 Nobody gave you that.
39:44 Speaker 06 You discovered it, and there's something really empowering about that.
39:48 Speaker 04 Well, then you are, you are in the business of telling people what to read, Jenna Bush Hager.
39:52 Speaker 06 Mm hmm.
39:53 Speaker 04 What's that about?
39:54 Speaker 06 That's heaven.
39:55 Speaker 04 Oh, yes, yes.
39:56 Speaker 06 It really is, and our.
39:57 Speaker 03 You love it.
39:58 Speaker 06 I love it so much, and our mission is really to highlight newer voices, it's really hard. I mean, y'all are writing a book, it's really hard to be published, it's really hard to be seen, um, not all authors historically have been published. You know, and so I think representation really matters.
40:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:15 Speaker 06 And finding authors who are just starting their way.
40:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:18 Speaker 06 Um, but it's such, I think it's such a lesson in like, if you love something, organically, you can kind of make it part of your work. Like, y'all are doing this, you're sitting around with your best friends.
40:29 Speaker 04 I know.
40:29 Speaker 06 Having conversations.
40:30 Speaker 04 Heaven.
40:31 Speaker 06 Like, doesn't that feel like heaven?
40:32 Speaker 04 Feels so nice.
40:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, it really is, it's like, um, I think we take it for granted too, as like a thing that's given us so much, I'm able to do, I do think though that, um, What is, what you're able to tell from Read with Jenna, and maybe people can tell from this, is that we genuinely enjoy doing it. I always feel like, I think Amy Poehler said, like, if you're having fun, they'll have fun.
40:52 Speaker 06 Yeah.
40:53 Speaker 03 Something so, like, key to remember. And I really, what I love about Read with Jenna, and I asked you this when I was co-hosting with you, because I've been there a few times when you've debuted your pick. And just how strenuously and how much you really do care to make that selection. You don't just read one and think, oh, this'll do. Like, you read a lot, and then it's-
41:14 Speaker 06 I mean, I'm reading all the time, but that also is such a gift, you know? To get to do that.
41:19 Speaker 03 But it's very time consuming.
41:20 Speaker 04 It is.
41:21 Speaker 03 Like, you're already a really busy person.
41:22 Speaker 06 I mean, I read all the time. But like, also, how fun is that, you know? And there's, I mean, I can listen to books, and Speechify is this app that I'm obsessed with.
41:31 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, people love the Speechify.
41:32 Speaker 06 It's really helpful.
41:33 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:34 Speaker 06 Like, if you have to read something quickly, you can Speechify that.
41:37 Speaker 04 Do you, do you, I, for some reason, I'm so, I'm so weirdly picky with what makes it to the audiobook stage, because it feels like something that's, like, easily absorbed. Like, dense fiction can't be it for me. I don't know why.
41:52 Speaker 06 Well, that's why I have to be able to see it and listen at the same time.
41:56 Speaker 03 Oh, you do both.
41:56 Speaker 06 But like, yeah, I rarely just listen to audiobook. Because it's, I, I, I mean, this is also, like, such a lucky thing, but I start to get sleepy, because my parents read to me before bed when I was little. So even like, if I'm driving or something, like, hell no. Because I kind of want to just, like, that's it.
42:13 Speaker 04 Totally.
42:13 Speaker 06 So I have to be able to read it at the same time.
42:15 Speaker 03 Of course. I find that the way audiobooks are performed really matters.
42:20 Speaker 06 Well, I mean, when we think about, like, Tom Lake, which our queen Anne Patchett wrote, but Meryl Streep read it.
42:26 Speaker 03 Exactly.
42:27 Speaker 06 That, to me, it's like, if you can have those moments, or you, Lena Dunham was on the show.
42:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:32 Speaker 06 I'd love to listen to her read her own work.
42:35 Speaker 03 We, we do it in the car, Melissa and I, and it's so, it's her. She's just a funny person telling her own story.
42:41 Speaker 06 Yes.
42:41 Speaker 03 Like, Mariah Carey, we always say.
42:43 Speaker 04 Oh.
42:43 Speaker 03 We did a lot of that. One of the only, um, book clubs we ever did on this was we, we did Mariah, um, for The Meaning- Mariah Carey and just the way that she informs the stories with her voice. It made me feel like this is a whole other dimension. And I said to Bone the other day, like for our book, I'm so excited to read it.
43:05 Speaker 06 Yeah.
43:05 Speaker 03 Give it that dimension because in a way it's a whole other project.
43:09 Speaker 06 Yes, yes, it is. It's like the performing of it and the storytelling of it, which is.
43:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:14 Speaker 06 You know, like that's the original art form.
43:16 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
43:17 Speaker 04 Wait, this new one I want to read, Call Her Unknown?
43:21 Speaker 06 Yeah, Call Her Unknown.
43:22 Speaker 04 Is this the first thriller in a while?
43:24 Speaker 06 It's the first thriller I've I'm only chosen two thrillers before. One is called All The Colors of the Dark, which is so good. And I wish I'd brought you books. It's so good. It's like if um, it's like if Room, which maybe you've read and um, To Kill A Mockingbird, because it's about like this friendship in a small town. But it's also this kind of thriller. It's so, so good. I rarely choose thrillers or mysteries.
43:51 Speaker 04 How come?
43:51 Speaker 06 But I don't know, I love them, but I do feel they become slightly formulaic.
43:55 Speaker 04 I got you.
43:56 Speaker 03 Oh, sure, sure, sure.
43:56 Speaker 06 Like I can kind of be a detective and I'm like, wait, this is I, you know, I know where this is headed. So I think things that feel fresh and interesting or have another dimension to it, I'm into.
44:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:07 Speaker 04 Are you like that with everything?
44:08 Speaker 06 Kinda.
44:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:10 Speaker 04 The stuff that you can get ahead of, you're like, eh, not for me.
44:12 Speaker 06 It's sort of, and I kind of, I'm like, um, I pay too much attention to, you know, like they're like, Now we'll be like, how did you know that they were going to surprise us with that person?
44:21 Speaker 03 Once you know, you know.
44:22 Speaker 06 I'm like, my ears were open.
44:23 Speaker 03 It's kind of like when you're a huge fan of reality TV.
44:26 Speaker 06 Yeah.
44:27 Speaker 03 Like you realize that, like, for example, Survivor.
44:30 Speaker 06 Yes.
44:31 Speaker 03 Um, this season is Survivor 50. Um, and so it's like a huge season that a lot of people are watching. And a lot of like, if you're a fan of the show, you'll probably go on your YouTube landing page. And then there's like a whole bunch of people that talk about it. And they're like, oh, this person's gonna win, they're getting the winner's edit. And you're like, oh, God, the winner's edit. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. And it's like in a movie now, it's like, once you see something mentioned, you know, it's gonna pay off. Though this is just the rule.
44:57 Speaker 06 I know.
44:58 Speaker 03 So that's like the other side of being a huge fan of something is that you then become someone who's ahead of it without wanting to be.
45:05 Speaker 06 I know.
45:05 Speaker 03 You just love it so much that you know the formula. So sometimes you have to ask yourself, am I just someone who's very learned about this thing? Or is this not surprising?
45:13 Speaker 06 Like, am I the problem? Do you love reality TV the way he does?
45:18 Speaker 04 I love it. I don't, I'm not as, um, I'm not as expansive in the way that Matt is, I feel.
45:24 Speaker 06 Like, do you have a preferred show?
45:27 Speaker 04 I love, I love my Survivor. I love my.
45:30 Speaker 03 We love Housewives.
45:31 Speaker 06 Yes.
45:31 Speaker 04 That's basically it.
45:32 Speaker 06 But Housewives across the board?
45:34 Speaker 04 Pretty much.
45:35 Speaker 03 We love Traitors.
45:36 Speaker 04 We love Traitors.
45:37 Speaker 06 Yeah.
45:37 Speaker 04 And, uh, that's basically it.
45:41 Speaker 03 I, I'm kind of like, I'll watch, I'll try it. You know what I watched? Um, The Age of Attraction on Netflix.
45:48 Speaker 06 What's that?
45:49 Speaker 03 No one knew how old anyone was and then they, they all met up and like they did a reveal.
45:53 Speaker 06 Did that work?
45:54 Speaker 03 Um, no.
45:56 Speaker 04 No. It's a little upsetting. It's a little upsetting.
45:58 Speaker 06 Well, it's also, it is, and who really gives a shit? Do you know what I mean?
46:02 Speaker 04 Thank you.
46:03 Speaker 03 You think?
46:03 Speaker 04 It couldn't hook me because I was like, I don't care that she's 19.
46:06 Speaker 06 And they're like, yeah.
46:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, but here's the thing, like, that, that's, I think, the point is it's like, you're like, oh yeah, who cares? And then the family comes in and this is revealed and that's, and then this thing about.
46:17 Speaker 06 Oh, oh, oh.
46:18 Speaker 03 Cause it's, it is an interesting depiction of the way you perform on a date about like, cause I don't know how y'all felt or you felt when you were dating or like how you, how like we feel now, but it's kind of like, in the initial stages of dating, you definitely are, whether you want to or not.
46:35 Speaker 06 Yeah.
46:35 Speaker 03 You are performing.
46:37 Speaker 04 Yes, of course, of course.
46:38 Speaker 03 You're, you're saying things are permissible that actually they're not.
46:42 Speaker 06 Yeah.
46:42 Speaker 03 And it's just funny to watch in a truncated, um, you know, reality television program, just how quickly, oh, that thing you said wasn't a big deal ended up being a big deal.
46:52 Speaker 06 Totally.
46:53 Speaker 03 That thing you said about yourself ended up not being true. And I appreciated this big thing of age being like, of course, it's just a number.
47:00 Speaker 06 Yeah.
47:00 Speaker 03 And then seeing people's like real thoughts, insecurities, insights about that actually ended up being kind of interesting as a social experiment.
47:08 Speaker 06 Yes. I mean, it's true. The beginning is so performative.
47:11 Speaker 03 You're like, I don't care that you're 79.
47:13 Speaker 06 What you order. Like, think about what you order at dinner. It's so different than what you would order 20 years in.
47:19 Speaker 04 Of course.
47:20 Speaker 06 I'm not gonna eat the spaghetti. You know, it's like, now you're like, pass me the spaghetti, you know? It's like crazy.
47:26 Speaker 03 I kind of think it's a baller move when someone on a date is like, I'm gonna have pork chop.
47:30 Speaker 04 Soup. I'm getting soup.
47:32 Speaker 06 Yeah.
47:32 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm gonna slurp in front of my guy.
47:34 Speaker 06 Cause I didn't want to get the lettuce in my teeth.
47:36 Speaker 04 Wouldn't that be so bad?
47:37 Speaker 03 If you can't sit there and watch me slurp.
47:41 Speaker 03 We have no business continuing. Do you remember what you ordered?
47:45 Speaker 06 Do you love how Matt can find his camera anywhere? Matt could be like, Matt could be like in like four rooms away and he'd find Matt's camera.
47:55 Speaker 03 Did you see me? Do you catch me finding the camera?
47:57 Speaker 06 Oh, hell yeah. And sometimes you say, where's my camera?
48:04 Speaker 03 He knows. It's ridiculous.
48:06 Speaker 06 Were you the type of little kid that when you would go out to dinner or be in an elevator, you'd look in the mirror? Me too. Can't you see, baby Matt?
48:14 Speaker 03 My mom says that, so when she, when I was little, she would cut hair in the house. And of course, like she had like a little, little room for her salon. And so I'd go in the room and talk to her clients that were in the chair, but just look at myself.
48:29 Speaker 06 Can't you see it?
48:31 Speaker 04 Can I say something?
48:32 Speaker 06 Yes.
48:32 Speaker 04 We're on Zoom a lot recently.
48:34 Speaker 03 Stop it. This is so mean.
48:37 Speaker 06 And he's just.
48:37 Speaker 04 Well, just, just, just, just, just when he, just the first log on, he doesn't do it the whole time.
48:41 Speaker 06 What's the first, what does he do?
48:42 Speaker 04 Hi, hi, hi, everybody. Hey, guys. Just like kind of primping, primping on Zoom, you know? That old chestnut.
48:51 Speaker 03 Everyone does it.
48:52 Speaker 06 That old chestnut.
48:54 Speaker 03 I'm not primping on Zoom. I'm just seeing myself there. This is a little adjustment. This is a little, maybe I need to smile a little bit more. All right, here we go.
49:02 Speaker 04 We all do it.
49:02 Speaker 03 He's here.
49:03 Speaker 06 We all do it, but some of us like it more than others.
49:07 Speaker 03 I'm getting red to film.
49:09 Speaker 04 We're red with Jenna.
49:11 Speaker 06 Red with Jenna.
49:14 Speaker 03 Red by, more like red by Jenna, the title of that.
49:18 Speaker 04 Perfect.
49:19 Speaker 03 More like red by Jenna.
49:20 Speaker 06 I love that about you. You remind me of like a little, a Disney prince. He does. Does he? I know. I was like, I was like, I feel like I've told him that before, which is weird that that's come up twice.
49:32 Speaker 03 You do say it maybe twice a month.
49:34 Speaker 04 That's so sweet.
49:35 Speaker 03 I love it.
49:36 Speaker 06 It's true. You're handsome, but, and you're like.
49:38 Speaker 04 But, but, oh my God.
49:41 Speaker 03 Goofy, goofy, foofy.
49:42 Speaker 04 Get the hell out.
49:44 Speaker 06 No, I don't want to leave.
49:45 Speaker 03 No, first of all, that was not. Where I was going. I just mean like, no, stop.
49:51 Speaker 04 We love ya.
49:52 Speaker 03 Thank you, guys. Well, so, listen, I do have a question for you, which is, like, sometimes I'm there and, like, it's such a natural thing at the show to be like, oh, okay, and coming up next, it's this person. How often are you gagged? How often are you like, oh, oh, no? And then are you really grateful to have someone sitting next to you?
50:12 Speaker 06 Like freaking out because the person is there?
50:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:15 Speaker 06 I mean, we had Goldie Hawn today.
50:16 Speaker 03 Wow. That's amazing.
50:19 Speaker 06 And it's amazing, but I will say, most of the time, everybody is super kind, you know, and so it sort of lives up to your, but I'm definitely a team, like, I want a teammate, you know, I would not want a solo show. Because I like to be part of, I like to play off somebody.
50:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:36 Speaker 06 I like to laugh with somebody before the show even starts. I like having somebody to like, I mean, you know, Hoda, I loved Hoda so much. I still love Hoda. I see her all the time. I talk to her all the time. It feels really good to be in community, you know? Like, I don't want to be solo by myself because then I really would, there'd be pressure there.
50:57 Speaker 04 Because then that feels like a date where you're, a first date where you're performing something about yourself where you're like, I would, I want the spaghetti.
51:04 Speaker 06 Yes.
51:05 Speaker 04 You're getting, you're eating spaghetti.
51:06 Speaker 06 Spaghetti. And you can eat spaghetti when somebody like Hoda's next to you.
51:10 Speaker 03 You can't eat spaghetti all night.
51:12 Speaker 06 Right?
51:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:13 Speaker 06 And if you're solo, it would feel.
51:15 Speaker 03 It does feel a little bit harder to eat spaghetti when you're solo because then you're like, oh, God, like, there was no one next to me eating it too.
51:21 Speaker 06 Who was the week where you like, we had Kelly, wait, no, was it?
51:25 Speaker 03 Well, I've been lucking out a lot. I had Kelly Clarkson.
51:27 Speaker 06 Yeah, Kelly Clarkson. And there was somebody else that we were, you were like.
51:31 Speaker 03 Gagged?
51:32 Speaker 06 Yeah.
51:32 Speaker 03 Was it Reese?
51:34 Speaker 06 Yeah, maybe Reese.
51:34 Speaker 03 We had Reese on the show and then Reese came in and I was like, oh, my God, I get to hang out with Reese twice.
51:39 Speaker 06 Yes.
51:39 Speaker 04 And The Real Housewives of Rhode Island gagged you.
51:41 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah.
51:42 Speaker 03 That was fun.
51:43 Speaker 06 We actually changed the date of that so that Matt could be there.
51:47 Speaker 04 Oh, my God, y'all love him.
51:50 Speaker 06 We do.
51:51 Speaker 04 That's amazing.
51:52 Speaker 06 And I needed his expertise.
51:53 Speaker 04 Of course.
51:54 Speaker 06 Did you end up going to Coachella with that woman?
51:56 Speaker 04 Yes.
51:56 Speaker 06 I didn't see her in any of your pictures.
51:57 Speaker 03 With Kelsey Swanson, we went to Coachella with her.
51:59 Speaker 06 I didn't mean to call her that woman.
52:00 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no, no, no, I just, there's something about the way you phrase things that is so.
52:05 Speaker 03 Did you go end up going to Coachella with that woman?
52:07 Speaker 04 No. It's you order spaghetti.
52:10 Speaker 06 But I didn't see her in your photos.
52:12 Speaker 03 No, we were in photos with her.
52:13 Speaker 04 We were in photos.
52:15 Speaker 06 Okay.
52:15 Speaker 03 It's it's fine. We posted a couple, but like the thing was like, you know, I also didn't want to like, here's the thing.
52:20 Speaker 06 I know.
52:21 Speaker 03 I was sensitive to them and I was actually telling them this because they came in the Rhode Island women and they sat down.
52:26 Speaker 06 There was more than just, there was more than her?
52:29 Speaker 03 No, I'm talking about in the moment of interviewing them on the show.
52:31 Speaker 04 They were nervous.
52:32 Speaker 03 We walked over and literally I think it was Alicia was just like, I mean, this is crazy. This is the Sade show. It doesn't get any bigger than this. This is wild. I can't believe you guys do this all the time. This is crazy. This is absolutely insane. I can't believe we're here.
52:45 Speaker 06 They were like, we're nervous. What cameras do we look at? Where do we? Matt's like, that's your camera.
52:53 Speaker 06 She's right there.
52:57 Speaker 03 And I go, no, that one's mine.
52:58 Speaker 06 Don't take that one.
52:59 Speaker 03 That's not yours. But anyway, like I was just like, kind of telling them in so many words, I was nervous for them.
53:07 Speaker 06 Yeah.
53:08 Speaker 03 Because I was like, I know how intense it's gonna get.
53:11 Speaker 06 And they were nervous too.
53:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, they were.
53:14 Speaker 06 There's some sort of divide.
53:15 Speaker 03 And so that's why I wasn't like, she, she was, I knew she was coming to Coachella, but I didn't know how she'd um, react to, because I don't think you know how you're gonna react.
53:24 Speaker 06 Did people know who she was?
53:26 Speaker 03 Not they, I think a couple of people came up and were like, are you Kelsey from Rhode Island?
53:30 Speaker 04 But it was like the first week after.
53:32 Speaker 06 Yeah, it hasn't aired.
53:32 Speaker 04 It didn't really like stick at that point. Now I feel like she's very much.
53:36 Speaker 06 Yeah.
53:36 Speaker 04 A protagonist of the show.
53:37 Speaker 03 When you're walking around with Bowen Yang, uh, they tend to catch him first.
53:42 Speaker 04 I, I'm, I, I felt like I was pretty incognito.
53:46 Speaker 06 That's good because it's more fun to be like, well, and also those music fests, like you're right, people are looking.
53:52 Speaker 04 Every direction.
53:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:54 Speaker 06 Did y'all, did y'all have fun?
53:55 Speaker 04 So much fun.
53:56 Speaker 03 We always have fun. I will say this, um, we were a little salty because we went the first weekend and then the second weekend, it was like Madonna came out.
54:05 Speaker 06 I know.
54:05 Speaker 03 And um, Olivia Rodrigo came out, Billie Eilish was there.
54:09 Speaker 06 But you had, oh, oh yeah, Billie Eilish came out with Beebs the second weekend too.
54:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
54:14 Speaker 06 I thought, why was that? All the great stuff in the second weekend? I thought the first weekend was supposed to be the big one.
54:19 Speaker 04 I think they're flipping it this year. I think the first weekend is now more the creator's influencer heavy time. And maybe people want to avoid that. I don't know. There's, there's a whole bunch of reasons.
54:30 Speaker 03 It seems like the artists are not shy about saying. Weekend one has a reputation for being not good because it is a lot of like, what I was clocking was that they they were feeling like the audience wasn't into it.
54:47 Speaker 06 Yeah.
54:47 Speaker 03 And I think it's because the first weekend is a lot of influencers.
54:50 Speaker 06 Like they're filming.
54:51 Speaker 03 That's what the buzz I've heard amongst like what the artists say is that weekend one doesn't feel as good as weekend two.
54:57 Speaker 06 Okay. Well, next year y'all better books weekend.
55:00 Speaker 03 That's what we're gonna try. But also it's like.
55:01 Speaker 04 Come with us.
55:02 Speaker 06 I would come with y'all.
55:03 Speaker 04 Really?
55:03 Speaker 06 I mean, I'm a little scared of like where you use the like, I just like lines.
55:07 Speaker 04 Bathrooms are tough.
55:08 Speaker 06 Did you get home super, super late?
55:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
55:10 Speaker 03 I would say like a sensible 12:30.
55:13 Speaker 06 Oh, that's not bad.
55:14 Speaker 03 It's not bad.
55:15 Speaker 06 Who's Adam Scott was on our show, you know, Severance, and he was saying that he couldn't get home till like five in the morning.
55:21 Speaker 03 Was he there?
55:22 Speaker 06 He went with his daughter.
55:23 Speaker 03 Love it.
55:23 Speaker 06 He said it was Kohela.
55:25 Speaker 04 Kohela. You know, it's just, it's, it's very, um, it's very sort of arcane, esoteric. Uh, the first time you figure out how to leave and then once you know.
55:36 Speaker 06 Oh, so I need to go with y'all because y'all have your roots down.
55:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, exactly. What, but Jenna, I, you know.
55:43 Speaker 03 You're a tease.
55:44 Speaker 04 You're a tease because you say you want to come to the culture awards.
55:47 Speaker 06 Well, I don't think I'm nominated this year.
55:50 Speaker 03 Well, I don't know. After three years of promising attendance.
55:53 Speaker 06 I don't think I'm not. I, I watched all the awards this weekend and I'm pretty sure I'm not nominated.
55:58 Speaker 03 Okay, so first of all, there's another half of the nominations that this time of recording this will have to come out, so. I don't know.
56:05 Speaker 04 I don't know. It's the kind of thing where if you show up, you might go home with something.
56:09 Speaker 06 I'm not.
56:09 Speaker 03 It's not your year.
56:10 Speaker 06 He just told me it's not my year.
56:13 Speaker 03 You were a winner. See, this is the thing about you Hollywood types.
56:17 Speaker 06 Luci.
56:19 Speaker 04 Susan Lucci never won.
56:20 Speaker 06 No, she did win.
56:21 Speaker 03 She did win.
56:22 Speaker 04 I think it was her 17th try.
56:23 Speaker 06 But also she was nominated. I wanted 17 tries.
56:26 Speaker 03 I'm sorry.
56:27 Speaker 06 Who's getting the Today Show Award for Excellence in the Morning?
56:29 Speaker 04 It doesn't exist this year. It's not a category.
56:31 Speaker 06 You told me that was an iconic one, like the Alison Williams Cool Girl Award.
56:35 Speaker 03 That one's coming back.
56:36 Speaker 06 That. But the Today Show Morning Excellence isn't there?
56:41 Speaker 03 I guess it's been won by the best already.
56:43 Speaker 04 Look, we're.
56:44 Speaker 06 Well, I guess I can't make it.
56:49 Speaker 03 I did love that about Devil Wears Prada 2, though. I was, you know.
56:52 Speaker 06 Oh, I know.
56:53 Speaker 03 I was, it was a very realistic portrayal, I felt, of what would happen to those characters, where they would be, not, then this is beyond just Miranda, but also the industry and the vibe. Even the end, the way it ends is sort of a happy ending for them, but it's, it's kind of bleak.
57:11 Speaker 06 I know.
57:12 Speaker 03 In the way that it, if you really think about it.
57:15 Speaker 06 I know.
57:15 Speaker 03 You know?
57:16 Speaker 04 Yeah. I mean, there's, it would feel so dishonest if it was still the glitzy, sort of like.
57:22 Speaker 06 I know. Well, and that's, she said this, Meryl Streep, and it's so true. She said that they wanted to do a sequel like nine years, or, like, it was like three years and then nine years. And it never felt like the right timing. And that this part of it, that obviously, you know, magazines and publishing are having a really hard time, but also journalists are needed more than ever to hold the powerful accountable. So all of that made it really interesting to dig into and not just like, oh, here's another sequel. And I actually think that's what really worked about the film.
57:54 Speaker 03 It felt very motivated. It didn't feel like, oh, we're making this sequel just to have a Devil Wears Prada 2, even if that was the initial idea.
58:01 Speaker 06 Yeah.
58:01 Speaker 03 Because I'm sure, I'm certain, that they were just like, oh, dollar science, like, let's do it.
58:07 Speaker 06 But they also said that, like, the actors wanted to see the script to make sure that there was, because you don't like, you know what is worse than doing a movie that like, you know, everybody's been anticipating just for the money is like, everybody hates it.
58:20 Speaker 03 I know.
58:21 Speaker 04 And that's more often than not.
58:22 Speaker 06 Yeah.
58:23 Speaker 04 Which, thank God, it's not one of those cases.
58:25 Speaker 03 Aline Brash-McKenna is one of the great screenwriters.
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1:03:06 Speaker 03 Hey, Bo, on point of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore.
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1:03:13 Speaker 03 Hey, or it turns out to be something else entirely.
1:03:15 Speaker 04 Like a total catfish situation.
1:03:16 Speaker 03 Exactly, Bo.
1:03:17 Speaker 04 Except for hotels.com.
1:03:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, that one's pretty literal.
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1:04:00 Speaker 06 I'm not an actor.
1:04:01 Speaker 04 Great.
1:04:02 Speaker 06 To be like, I mean, I've done, I'm only ever played myself, but sometimes when there are the lines.
1:04:07 Speaker 04 It's worse.
1:04:08 Speaker 06 We're like two, we're not actors. I'm too worried about getting the line right.
1:04:11 Speaker 03 No, it's easier for you to just exist on camera in that way.
1:04:15 Speaker 06 Probably they didn't want to give us lines and know it was all gonna be cut, you know?
1:04:18 Speaker 04 Right, right, right, right.
1:04:19 Speaker 03 I will say my favorite look in the entire movie was what Anne wore to the Hamptons.
1:04:25 Speaker 06 Oh, you loved that dress?
1:04:26 Speaker 03 I loved that dress.
1:04:27 Speaker 06 That kind of patchwork, that is very you.
1:04:29 Speaker 03 And you know what?
1:04:30 Speaker 06 That is very you. He loves kind of a quilt.
1:04:33 Speaker 03 Melissa, my stylist, is always putting me in a quilt.
1:04:36 Speaker 06 Yeah, you love a quilted look.
1:04:37 Speaker 03 A shacket.
1:04:38 Speaker 06 You love a shacket.
1:04:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, what's the sh-?
1:04:41 Speaker 06 Shirt.
1:04:42 Speaker 03 Shirt, oh.
1:04:43 Speaker 06 A shirt and a acket, or a shirt and a jacket. Yeah, shacket.
1:04:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, she was wearing like a, like a, like a
1:04:50 Speaker 06 Patchwork quilt.
1:04:51 Speaker 03 Quilt dress, and what I, what was a little bit, I don't think so, honey, for me, was in the movie, she's like looking at things to wear, and she sees this dress, and we don't see it as the audience yet, but Stanley Tucci is like, no, that's inappropriate for this event. You're not wearing that, no. And if it gets a stand on, no. And then she's like, oh, I want it. And he's like, it's not appropriate for this event.
1:05:12 Speaker 06 I know.
1:05:12 Speaker 03 And then she puts it on and gets on the bus and goes out to the Hamptons, and I'm like, she looks the chicest there.
1:05:18 Speaker 06 I know.
1:05:18 Speaker 03 What did he mean it wasn't right for the event?
1:05:20 Speaker 06 They did say, like, because I was like, what about styling, you know? It's like the devil wears Prada. The costume is probably more important than anything.
1:05:28 Speaker 03 Hampton's easy casual chic.
1:05:30 Speaker 06 That's what they, they said, do not dress up. Like, and if you notice, even Meryl was wearing like a buttoned down shirt and like these pants.
1:05:36 Speaker 03 Loved everything about her aesthetic. And one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie was her, a little bit wine drunk in the kitchen.
1:05:43 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:05:44 Speaker 03 She gets like a little win.
1:05:45 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:05:45 Speaker 03 And she's just the way that Merrill was playing Miranda Priestly's Joy.
1:05:51 Speaker 06 I know.
1:05:52 Speaker 03 I was like, that's such an interesting.
1:05:53 Speaker 04 Cause you didn't see it.
1:05:54 Speaker 06 Cause you don't see it very much.
1:05:56 Speaker 03 But it did get me thinking about like, yeah, that is the way that that woman would feel joy. The way she like, she sort of says something to Anne Hathaway.
1:06:04 Speaker 06 She pours herself a little rosé.
1:06:06 Speaker 03 She pours herself a big glass of rosé. And like floats out of her kitchen in her like man tattered shirt. And I'm like, damn.
1:06:14 Speaker 06 But she was just in like a button down and cappies. Like they said to keep it, you know, did you notice how many ties there were in the film?
1:06:22 Speaker 03 Ties are back.
1:06:23 Speaker 04 Ties are back.
1:06:25 Speaker 06 You look very handsome.
1:06:26 Speaker 03 Thank you.
1:06:26 Speaker 06 I wore a tie in the third grade and I made my cat a matching tie. Don't say I'm not talented.
1:06:33 Speaker 03 Your own little, your, your own little scat cat.
1:06:37 Speaker 06 My own little scat cat. His name was Cowboy and he wore a little tie and I had the matching tie. And I even, and I will try to, I will show you this photo when we're done. Had went to the White House in a mustard yellow shirt from the limited to a tie. And a squirt, a matching squirt to the tie, which was just really a look.
1:07:01 Speaker 03 Was that the first squirt in the White House?
1:07:03 Speaker 04 I think that might've been the first squirt in the White House.
1:07:05 Speaker 06 John Quincy Adams wore a squirt.
1:07:08 Speaker 03 Which presidents were gay? And what, what, what, what do, what do people that are in the know?
1:07:14 Speaker 06 I don't know. Do you know?
1:07:15 Speaker 03 Well, they say Abe Lincoln was gay.
1:07:17 Speaker 06 Well, because of Oh Mary?
1:07:19 Speaker 03 Well, no, they said.
1:07:20 Speaker 04 Before Oh Mary was also.
1:07:22 Speaker 06 In the Abraham book.
1:07:23 Speaker 04 In the, in the, um, his roommate, you know, in Illinois or some stuff.
1:07:28 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:07:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, but Abe probably.
1:07:31 Speaker 03 All bottom.
1:07:32 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, Marfan's, Marfan's syndrome.
1:07:35 Speaker 03 No, that would be, well, that would be the opposite. Marfan's makes you small.
1:07:38 Speaker 04 No, Marfan's makes you long.
1:07:39 Speaker 03 Really?
1:07:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, Abe, Abe had it for sure.
1:07:42 Speaker 03 You know, Abe had a Marfan syndrome.
1:07:44 Speaker 06 No, seriously.
1:07:45 Speaker 03 It made him so long.
1:07:47 Speaker 06 How tall do you think Abe was? Six, eight? Anybody Google?
1:07:50 Speaker 03 Wait, didn't we see, we went to the Brooks Brothers and they had, they had a recreated Abe Lincoln suit.
1:07:56 Speaker 06 How tall was he?
1:07:57 Speaker 03 Tall.
1:07:57 Speaker 06 At the Brooks Brothers. How tall was his recreated?
1:08:00 Speaker 03 He had been like six, two, which at the time was like.
1:08:02 Speaker 06 That tall, guys.
1:08:03 Speaker 03 At the time.
1:08:05 Speaker 04 Six, four.
1:08:06 Speaker 06 That's my husband is six, four.
1:08:07 Speaker 03 So at the time, that was like seven feet tall.
1:08:10 Speaker 06 Okay.
1:08:12 Speaker 06 Five, six was the average. Okay.
1:08:14 Speaker 03 So you're talking about the president of the United States being almost a foot taller than everyone else?
1:08:18 Speaker 06 Yeah, interesting.
1:08:19 Speaker 03 Cuckoo.
1:08:21 Speaker 03 And a gay guy? I don't remember Henry being that tall.
1:08:25 Speaker 06 He's tall.
1:08:27 Speaker 03 Was that the first thing you noticed?
1:08:28 Speaker 06 I like it, yeah.
1:08:29 Speaker 03 You're like a tree. You gotta climb a tree. I know you. Tigress.
1:08:36 Speaker 04 Change your hours so you can swing a little.
1:08:40 Speaker 06 You guys, even if I change my hours, I'm too tired to swing. I mean, honestly.
1:08:45 Speaker 03 You have reading to do.
1:08:46 Speaker 06 I have reading to do, and also, I like, I don't, I mean, I'm not gonna go there, but the amount, the people that I would have to choose to swing with.
1:08:57 Speaker 06 Do you know what I mean?
1:08:58 Speaker 03 Was like, your neighbor's in Connecticut?
1:09:00 Speaker 06 No, thank you.
1:09:02 Speaker 04 No, thank you. Come on. Jenna, you're so fun.
1:09:07 Speaker 03 You really are the best. No, like, honestly, I'll never forget the day we first met. You had met them before.
1:09:14 Speaker 04 Uh, my, no, no, cuz it was Hoda and Maria Shriver. We hadn't met Jenna.
1:09:19 Speaker 03 Oh, my god, yes, the first time we were on, Maria was in your spot.
1:09:22 Speaker 06 She was a queen, too. I love Maria Shriver so much.
1:09:25 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:09:25 Speaker 04 What, what, what a legend.
1:09:27 Speaker 06 She's so wise.
1:09:28 Speaker 04 But the, but the first time we met Jenna was the same time, was when, is what you're describing.
1:09:32 Speaker 06 Yes, yes, yes.
1:09:33 Speaker 03 And I remember, this is when you had your length. You've kept the bib bob since you-
1:09:37 Speaker 06 I need to cut it again, though.
1:09:39 Speaker 03 So you're, you're loving it. I love it.
1:09:41 Speaker 04 I love it.
1:09:41 Speaker 06 It's easier to have, keep it short.
1:09:43 Speaker 03 I think this is your look.
1:09:44 Speaker 04 We had an original draft of this bob sketch on SNL. We had your name in it. We did Leslie Bibbs and Jennifer Schager in it, too.
1:09:50 Speaker 06 You cut me?
1:09:51 Speaker 04 I'm sorry.
1:09:52 Speaker 06 Out of the bob sketch?
1:09:53 Speaker 04 No, it was because-
1:09:54 Speaker 03 You made it into the worst product, too. You won.
1:09:57 Speaker 06 Why did you allow, why did you, we showed that.
1:10:01 Speaker 04 I know you did, and I wanted to text you and be like, your name was, it was like, we answered to Leslie Bibb and Jennifer Schager. Cuz you had just gotten it-
1:10:08 Speaker 06 Who cut me?
1:10:09 Speaker 04 No, like, it wasn't a, it was not a cut, it was like, it was between dress and arrows, like, okay, we gotta lose like, a minute from this, or whatever.
1:10:16 Speaker 06 I made it to the dress rehearsal?
1:10:18 Speaker 04 Stop.
1:10:19 Speaker 03 That's usually, that's usually when Lauren steps in.
1:10:21 Speaker 04 That's when Lauren steps in.
1:10:22 Speaker 06 Lauren said, who the fuck is Jennifer Schager?
1:10:25 Speaker 03 No!
1:10:28 Speaker 06 I don't think many people know who Jenna Bush Hager is.
1:10:31 Speaker 04 Are you kidding me?
1:10:32 Speaker 03 Well, he knew about you back in the day when he used to make fun of your ass.
1:10:35 Speaker 06 I know. Do you know that Amy Poehler played me?
1:10:39 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:10:39 Speaker 04 Do you?
1:10:40 Speaker 03 But you but you but think my dad's a good president.
1:10:42 Speaker 04 Do you think it's taken a long time to shake off the Captain Morgan and tequila thing? Cause that's not fair. You never drink it that way.
1:10:48 Speaker 06 No, I didn't drink Captain Morgan and tequila together. No, I mean, you know that there was a, um, I, I was a, uh, there was some cover of a magazine that called me gin and tonic. Gin and tonic.
1:11:01 Speaker 04 That's, what, you like that?
1:11:03 Speaker 06 I didn't really, I mean, when I was 19 and 20 years old, I did not like it. But I will say as a 44 year old, like, thank God, I had parents that let me make mistakes, man.
1:11:14 Speaker 03 I was actually thinking about that the other day when I was thinking about, like, you were coming on the show and I was like, this is someone who, even I, as like, uh, you know, 10 year olds, I knew who you were. And this is pre-social media, but like,
1:11:28 Speaker 06 Which, thank God.
1:11:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, I was thinking about you with that too. I was like, can you imagine if you were, uh, 18, 19, 20, 21 years old? Um, when your father is the president and also like is a polarizing figure? And that gets trans, uh, transmuted to you and all the media is harping on is, you know, wild child partying. And that had to be, were you shielded from that or how was it impossible to be?
1:11:54 Speaker 06 No, I was not shielded from it at all. Cause I was in college. Like there was nobody to shield me. You know what I mean? But I think, no, I mean, it was definitely hard. I also think, oh, well, like people, like if that's my, you know, resilience that I had to fight through, like people have a lot worse and I mean that, but also it's like, I, you know, I think the media sort of held, like they kind of understood. I mean, Chelsea had it bad too.
1:12:22 Speaker 03 Definitely.
1:12:23 Speaker 06 And then by the time, and I'm glad we, Amelia and Sasha were there, there was this sort of like rallying cry. I mean, Barbara and I wrote an open letter in the Wall Street Journal, which basically was like, leave them alone.
1:12:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, they're young.
1:12:36 Speaker 06 Let them be kids, but they were, they were kids, kids.
1:12:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:39 Speaker 06 And then by the time the second, you know, then they were like in college, like we were. And I think, you know, I just think there has to be some sort of. We didn't choose it, you know, and in fact, when our dad told us he was gonna run for president, we broke into tears.
1:12:56 Speaker 03 Did you like say, please don't?
1:12:57 Speaker 06 We said, you're gonna ruin our lives, which we've apologized about.
1:13:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, but you know what, though? You have every right to say that.
1:13:03 Speaker 06 We told him he was gonna lose.
1:13:06 Speaker 03 You genuinely thought he would.
1:13:07 Speaker 06 We were like, fine, you're gonna lose.
1:13:10 Speaker 06 You can run, but you're gonna lose.
1:13:14 Speaker 06 But I mean, that, we, I think, what it goes to say is like, we had parents that wanted us to have normal, a normal life.
1:13:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:13:22 Speaker 06 And people, when Barbara and I like walked down the street in New York, people are like, we love y'all, y'all are so normal.
1:13:27 Speaker 03 Uh huh.
1:13:27 Speaker 06 And that, I think, is a compliment, you know, we'd rather hear like, y'all look great, or whatever, you know?
1:13:32 Speaker 03 Y'all look so normal.
1:13:35 Speaker 04 But doesn't this give you like such great perspective with, with Mila and Poppy and Hal? It's like you.
1:13:39 Speaker 06 Well, I also just think all kids, like you look at the pressure that's on teenagers now, to go to the school, or to like, you know, do the thing, or to make it in some way, and, and like, get the great grades, it's like, none of that, really, at least in our house, I'm like, I want happy kids.
1:13:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:13:58 Speaker 06 Who are kind, like, that's all, you know? And I think my parents did not, there was no rulebook, like, we, when I went to like, court, when I got that minor in possession of alcohol, I wore like pants like this, I didn't know, and my toe ring, and like, nobody was like, you need to get dressed up because you're expected to be this person, it was like, no, you're yourself, and that includes making.
1:14:23 Speaker 03 Go to court and figure it out. Toting and all.
1:14:26 Speaker 06 I mean, make mistakes, and I don't know, I mean, it's not like, things could have been way worse, it's like.
1:14:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:14:32 Speaker 06 But it was, at the time, it was not easy, but also like, that I have the thickest skin ever now, and I look back at that Amy Poehler Tina Fey skit, and it's hilarious.
1:14:43 Speaker 03 It is funny, especially when you realize like, it had nothing to do with you.
1:14:46 Speaker 06 No, well, also, they're speaking in like a twin drunk language, which like Barbara and I only wish we could do.
1:14:54 Speaker 06 Do you know what I mean? And how different my life really is than how it was portrayed is also hilarious.
1:15:01 Speaker 03 I know, that is funny.
1:15:02 Speaker 06 There was one time in college where we were watching Dawson's Creek and I get a call from Katie Holmes to come, she wanted to come and like shadow me.
1:15:14 Speaker 03 Oh, for first daughter?
1:15:16 Speaker 06 For first daughter. And I was like, you guys, she would be like, wow, your life is so lame.
1:15:26 Speaker 03 Katie Holmes.
1:15:27 Speaker 06 Oh no, you're going to the library to like, stay up all night and write your English paper, you know? Like, I just was like, you don't want to come shadow me.
1:15:34 Speaker 03 Yeah. We're not doing body shots on a Tuesday.
1:15:37 Speaker 06 Yeah, so no, I didn't call her back.
1:15:39 Speaker 03 Surreal though, while you're watching Dawson's Creek?
1:15:41 Speaker 06 It was weird.
1:15:41 Speaker 03 That's crazy.
1:15:42 Speaker 06 It was weird. Like, I was like, guys, is this, what's happening here?
1:15:46 Speaker 03 Wow.
1:15:47 Speaker 06 It was odd.
1:15:48 Speaker 03 Do you think that there was anything about, because obviously when you're, you know, you're in the public eye and that way you did not choose. And then several years later, obviously, you choose to go on this path of being in the public eye. Do you think that that was a genuine interest and attraction to wanting to be on air and having that, having that influence and impact? Or do you think a little bit of it was like, I actually want to correct a perspective that maybe they have on me?
1:16:15 Speaker 06 No, I mean, I don't think, like, I don't, who knows subconsciously? Like, I would have to like really sit with like my shaman and go deep there. No, I think I was on the show for a book that I wrote. And then I wrote a book about the national parks with my mom and I was on again. And it was the executive producer kept coming to me, like, I was like, no, I was a teacher. I was like, I love my job and I taught in inner city Baltimore and it was honestly so hard.
1:16:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:16:42 Speaker 06 That I was like, maybe I should go take this job interview, you know, like what? And I was a little performer, like, I wanted to be baby Kazat in Les Mis, but I like couldn't sing, you know? I wanted to be, I wanted to be her performer. So I think like my, my sister's like, it makes sense. You like to make people laugh, but I wouldn't like have pursued the job myself.
1:17:04 Speaker 03 Hmm.
1:17:04 Speaker 04 But in a way, like you already knew that you could be in the public eye and this is a, this is like a, a modular thing where now it's on your terms, you know, like.
1:17:14 Speaker 06 I mean, I think it has, was helpful.
1:17:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:17:16 Speaker 06 That all of this happened when I was so young.
1:17:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:17:19 Speaker 06 Because there, I do, other people are like, I read the comments. I like, I would never read the comments. I, there's, I have a really good way of like compartmentalizing my work and sort of the stuff that comes with it. And like my actual life and the people that I love.
1:17:35 Speaker 04 What's real.
1:17:35 Speaker 06 And, you know, and so there's, I don't, I don't get caught up in like the, that part of it. Do you know what I mean?
1:17:42 Speaker 03 A hundred percent.
1:17:42 Speaker 04 I think this is the thing that, um, that like Mila and the kids like should really go forward with. Not that you're not already doing this, but I'm like, you know, you know what like weirdly gets me is like the, it's the performance now of like opening up your college.
1:17:56 Speaker 06 I know.
1:17:56 Speaker 04 Acceptances.
1:17:57 Speaker 06 I know.
1:17:58 Speaker 04 Oh, everything has to be like for the camera.
1:18:00 Speaker 06 I know.
1:18:01 Speaker 04 And everyone else, like they, like.
1:18:03 Speaker 06 And then, and it makes all these other people feel like terrible, you know? And it's so interesting because when we were in high school, my sister won like the math competition in, in Dallas. She was, she is exceptionally smart, but she also like, she missed one math problem on her SAT. She was this incredible student and I, I love to read.
1:18:26 Speaker 03 Other side of the brain.
1:18:28 Speaker 06 I had a different side of the brain and I was funny and I was fine.
1:18:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:18:31 Speaker 06 And my parents did not compare us. Like they weren't like, well, you know, if she did this. So Barbara gets this perfect score on the SAT and I read somewhere that Stanford has like a twin policy. That if one twin gets in, the other one gets in.
1:18:44 Speaker 03 What?
1:18:45 Speaker 06 Or they both.
1:18:46 Speaker 03 Was that a real thing?
1:18:47 Speaker 06 Yeah. And they may still have it, but this was like, you know, in 2000, or one gets, you know, doesn't get in, the other one won't get in. So I read this and I'm like, great news, like family. Look what I read. I can ride Barbara's coattails.
1:19:02 Speaker 03 I can get into Stanford and still be myself.
1:19:05 Speaker 06 And it was like the opposite of the college admissions scandal. My dad was like, hell no. Don't ruin Barbara's chances. No, like, but I think I was like, you're right. You're right. You know, and there was like in the early aughts. Nobody, I didn't care. Like she went to Yale and I went to the University of Texas and it did not matter. You know, like
1:19:27 Speaker 03 That's good though, because honestly, that was, that was not our experience. Um, I, at least I can speak for myself. I would say that when we were in high school, this was like peak millennial thing of like, who's going to get into the best school?
1:19:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:19:40 Speaker 03 Like, I remember not one person in my entire high school got into an Ivy League school and we all felt like, well, it's like, we're all duds, so that sucks. But also, thank God, not one of us is going to get in so that we all feel like idiots. Comparatively.
1:19:59 Speaker 06 Yeah. I don't know. We didn't have like the social media to make it a thing. There was no, I also went to a big public high school in Austin. You know, like, and it might've just been like, there, most people stayed local. Like, there wasn't, Barbara was sort of the outlier, you know?
1:20:14 Speaker 03 Well, a few years after we would go to school would become the prevailing narrative that you don't have to go to this school just because it's reputable and expensive.
1:20:24 Speaker 06 Well, I, but I feel like there is such pressure on children and on teens to like, for what? You know, like, what? It's like, you guys found your best friends, like many of whom I know because of Matt has brought them. And like, you found your family, you found yourselves, like, that matters.
1:20:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:42 Speaker 06 So your school choice mattered.
1:20:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:44 Speaker 06 But I, I feel like the, the sort of rat race to excellence, because it's all so public. It's like, what, what is that for? Is it for finding your purpose, for finding your joy? Then like, sure. But if it's for like showing off that you got into this great school, it bums me out.
1:21:01 Speaker 04 Yeah. It's a bummer for me because it's like Asian immigrant parent or just those communities throughout the country, like at that time, were purely about the achievement and the elitism of, of these things. And like now it just seems like it's writ large and it's just sort of blown out for everybody.
1:21:19 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:21:20 Speaker 04 You know, and like
1:21:20 Speaker 06 Was that, did that feel hard?
1:21:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:21:23 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:21:24 Speaker 04 Definitely. Like, Oh my God, I remember getting into NYU and then going back, going to China to see family. And like, I was in the other room sleeping and then like, in the next room, they were like, my dad's side of the family, they all grew up farmers, they like, most of them were uneducated. And even they, I overheard them saying, "Well, Bowen Disconsus School called NYU, like NYU, and it's not even that good."
1:21:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, they really didn't think so.
1:21:50 Speaker 04 It's not even like the top 10 schools or whatever. And my heart's thinking, I'm like, "Oh, it doesn't even measure up to these people who like, didn't even get to go to college." And like, they must feel a certain way about it. And I'm like, "Oh, right." Like, this is, it's a global thing where you like, end up going to college within like, this specific arrangement.
1:22:07 Speaker 03 And it's also all branding.
1:22:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:22:10 Speaker 06 But like, also, thank God you went where you went and you found your people and your passion.
1:22:13 Speaker 03 One of the new IVs, which is the way they were branding.
1:22:16 Speaker 04 Stop it.
1:22:17 Speaker 03 Schools like ours, so that we could feel attractive to people who, you know.
1:22:22 Speaker 06 It's so ridiculous.
1:22:23 Speaker 03 It was, it was ridiculous. But speaking of ridiculous, we're all about to go crazy. Um, I don't know why it's this voice, but uh...
1:22:32 Speaker 06 I like it. I'm like, "Who are you?"
1:22:35 Speaker 03 Uh, next time I guest host, I'm just gonna start talking like this is a double show. I'm just kidding.
1:22:40 Speaker 06 What are you, who are you? Are you stoned and like, chemist, chemistry?
1:22:46 Speaker 03 Am I stoned in chemistry? Well, I don't, Miss Murray, I think that Colville and Bonds are pretty sick. What is that?
1:22:54 Speaker 06 Who is he? Who are you?
1:22:57 Speaker 03 I'm around my friends and I'm loose.
1:23:01 Speaker 04 Okay, readers, we gotta discuss a vacation that's not just a vacation, it's a statement.
1:23:07 Speaker 03 Virgin Voyages, adults only. Yes, a child-free sanctuary at sea. It's giving serenity, it's giving sexy European summer, it's giving, "I deserve this."
1:23:18 Speaker 04 They're sailing the Caribbean and the Mediterranean, obviously, but now they've added the West Coast and Alaska. So whether you want golden hour off California or full cinematic, glacier core, main character energy, they said, "Range."
1:23:31 Speaker 03 And the awards. At this point, it's less award-winning cruise line and more, "Do we just engrave their name on?" On the trophy, they've won so many travel awards, the ships might sweep our culture awards. Slay of the sea, excellence in poolside looks, outstanding achievement in top deck behavior.
1:23:45 Speaker 04 Over 20 eateries, epic entertainment, fitness classes, wifi, all included. Luxury without the nickel and diming.
1:23:52 Speaker 03 Virgin Voyages.
1:23:53 Speaker 04 Sailors, consider yourselves called.
1:23:55 Speaker 03 So if you're ready to trade the group chat drama for glacier views, poolside looks and zero children, head to virginvoyages.com. Say it with me, virginvoyages.com. Or hand it off to your travel advisor and let them do the Googling. You probably think dressing well takes lots of money or lots of time spent digging through thrift stores.
1:24:12 Speaker 04 Well, not to be rude, but you're wrong. So dead wrong. And honestly, we're happy for you because now we get to tell you about Depop.
1:24:22 Speaker 03 You can find the fashion you love for less on Depop.
1:24:25 Speaker 04 And it doesn't matter what you're into. Leopard print, they've got it. Not into leopard print? First of all, why? But fine. They've got that too, not leopard print. Basically, whatever your particular fashion situation is, Depop has entered the chat.
1:24:40 Speaker 03 We're talking over 600,000 daily listings, including celebrity and stylist shop drops.
1:24:44 Speaker 04 That's a lot of listings and somehow it gets better. You can sell the stuff you no longer wear and make money, then use that money to buy things you do want to wear.
1:24:54 Speaker 03 It's a circle, like the circle of life, but for fashion. And since fashion is life for a lot of people, samezies.
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1:25:10 Speaker 03 Okay, we've been talking about QP mail for a minute now, Bo, and wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff.
1:25:18 Speaker 04 You're stopping us in the street going, I love QP. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QP? Uh, do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise, the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.
1:25:32 Speaker 03 Once you know it, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo. Well, the answer? Egg yolks.
1:25:38 Speaker 04 QP is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles.
1:25:49 Speaker 03 Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor. Ever use it?
1:25:54 Speaker 04 Whatever you're eating, Cupi it. So if you haven't tried Cupi yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. Cupi, the original Japanese mayonnaise.
1:26:07 Speaker 03 Hey, Bo, in point of order, it feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore.
1:26:11 Speaker 04 Point of answer, it's because everything has a catch.
1:26:13 Speaker 03 Hey, or it turns out to be something else entirely.
1:26:15 Speaker 04 Like a total catfish situation.
1:26:17 Speaker 03 Exactly, Bo.
1:26:18 Speaker 04 Except for hotels.com.
1:26:19 Speaker 03 Hmm, yeah, that one's pretty literal.
1:26:21 Speaker 04 Because it's hotels.com, it's in the domain. You go there, you book hotels, hundreds of thousands of them.
1:26:27 Speaker 03 And hold up, that's it?
1:26:29 Speaker 04 That's it. And when stays are booked as a member, rewards are earned every time.
1:26:33 Speaker 03 Every stay?
1:26:34 Speaker 04 Every stay, no tracking or managing, just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings.
1:26:38 Speaker 03 Which, by the way, already feels nicer than most rewards programs, okay?
1:26:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, members can also get up to 20% off bookings, so savings start right away.
1:26:46 Speaker 03 Does that mean no weird restrictions?
1:26:48 Speaker 04 And no blackout dates. Book what works when it works. It's actually really fitting of real travel.
1:26:54 Speaker 03 So the name is honest, you're saying? And the rewards are too?
1:26:57 Speaker 04 Exactly. Hotels.com, it's all in the name.
1:27:01 Speaker 03 All right, this is I Don't Think So Honey, this is our...
1:27:03 Speaker 06 Wait, are y'all timing me?
1:27:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:27:05 Speaker 03 Well, we're gonna go first.
1:27:06 Speaker 06 Oh, good, good, good.
1:27:07 Speaker 03 And then...
1:27:08 Speaker 06 Do you like, I'm like, I'm like a star student.
1:27:11 Speaker 04 You are.
1:27:12 Speaker 03 So for all you star students at home, this is our segment where we take one minute to just tear something apart in culture that we don't agree with, and that's putting it mildly. I'm gonna do something about Devil Wears Prada 2. It's my one problem with the movie, and I do want this question answered. And it is a little bit of a spoiler, so if you haven't seen Devil Wears Prada 2 yet, you can skip my I Don't Think So Honey and probably the minute or so after it.
1:27:38 Speaker 04 Okay, great. This is Matt Rogers, I Don't Think So Honey's time starts now.
1:27:41 Speaker 03 I Don't Think So Honey, the end of the movie, The Devil Wears Prada 2, it's a scene with Anne Hathaway and Meryl Streep, and Anne Hathaway now works for Runway, and she puts something on the desk, and Meryl says, "Is there anything else?" And then Anne Hathaway says, "Nope." And I just think, I don't think so, honey, that she didn't say, "That's all."
1:28:03 Speaker 04 Ah!
1:28:04 Speaker 03 That's all! Why wouldn't you end the movie with "that's all"? And then I think...
1:28:10 Speaker 04 30 seconds.
1:28:10 Speaker 03 And I, I don't think so, honey, if this happened, it must have been in the script, and either Anne was like... No, I think that's Meryl's line and didn't say it. I can see Anne Hathaway being like that. Or maybe Meryl was like, hmm, giving someone else my line in character. I don't know, but it didn't happen. There was not enough. That's all in the movie. Otherwise, a perfect movie. I was just like, it was right there. We could have ended the movie with the iconic line. I don't think so, honey, that we didn't. Not that I don't think so, honey, the movie, because I do think so, honey, just that part. I don't think so.
1:28:43 Speaker 04 And that's one minute.
1:28:44 Speaker 03 Don't you think?
1:28:45 Speaker 06 That's how you do it. I agree with you, although I bet Meryl saw it and was like, too cliche.
1:28:50 Speaker 03 No.
1:28:51 Speaker 06 But it's so funny because I thought it was gonna end that way too. I'm like, sure, well, of course.
1:28:55 Speaker 04 So then maybe this is the thing where they expect the audience to get ahead of it.
1:28:59 Speaker 06 Exactly.
1:29:00 Speaker 04 And they are subverting the expectation.
1:29:01 Speaker 06 Exactly.
1:29:02 Speaker 04 And it breaks the cycle of you, what you would think now that Andy is at runway, she would inherit this thing and yet she's choosing to break this.
1:29:09 Speaker 06 I agree.
1:29:10 Speaker 03 I just feel like had she said, that's all turned out and went away and you could have left, you could have ended it on Meryl with that half smile that she did in the first movie. And I loved the last scene, the, the, um, tracking away of them all in the three offices.
1:29:23 Speaker 06 Was that?
1:29:24 Speaker 03 I mean, the movie was fantastic.
1:29:26 Speaker 06 But that last scene was so, we were, we said that. I watched it with Savannah and Hoda and we said, where you could see all of the people in the new, it makes you fall in love with why we live in the city.
1:29:36 Speaker 03 You know what, it actually, it, I love a shot like that, just like leaving the characters that we love in process because you know they're still, that was one of my favorite things about the way the movie Fire Island ended.
1:29:46 Speaker 04 Oh, it was supposed to pull out.
1:29:47 Speaker 03 Leaves us on the dock like that. I was like, oh, they're still gonna have fun. And I just loved that. Um, and another thing I love from the movie was Emily Blunt goes, have you heard of Christmas?
1:30:00 Speaker 03 I was like, that's my line. Have you heard of Christmas? No, I don't think she.
1:30:05 Speaker 04 Have you heard the album?
1:30:06 Speaker 06 Do you think she heard the album?
1:30:08 Speaker 04 And then.
1:30:09 Speaker 06 She, I bet she improvised that.
1:30:12 Speaker 04 She sent it to. Aline. Aline Brash McKenna.
1:30:15 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:30:15 Speaker 04 She heard Jenna Boccega walk out the building.
1:30:17 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:30:17 Speaker 04 She went, "Let's get Jenna."
1:30:19 Speaker 06 You're the reason I am in the devil world.
1:30:22 Speaker 03 Anyway, okay, this is Bowen Yang's. Where's my phone?
1:30:26 Speaker 04 Here, you want mine?
1:30:26 Speaker 03 Yeah. This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. Is he ready with one?
1:30:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's gonna be a bummer. It's gonna be a bummer, but it's okay.
1:30:34 Speaker 03 His back hurts even as he's getting ready to.
1:30:36 Speaker 06 Oh, no, I'm afraid it's about his back.
1:30:38 Speaker 03 This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. This time starts now.
1:30:41 Speaker 04 I don't think so, honey. What are the patches supposed to be doing? I don't believe that the skin is absorbing whatever the medicine is. I think you gotta take it by mouth. I think all medicine should be taken by mouth or IV. I think on the skin is kind of a sham. Sure, whatever. As long as there's an opening. As long as you're breaking through, you're puncturing hole.
1:31:02 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:31:03 Speaker 04 I don't think so, honey. Topical, topical, anything. Analgesic, whatever. I think it has to, I have to ingest it in some way. It literally has to go into my veins. I've got too much dermis. The three of us have.
1:31:16 Speaker 06 Too much dermis.
1:31:17 Speaker 04 The three of us have thick skins because of the hardships of life. And so my skin ain't taking it. You know what I'm saying? And so I also am gonna spend the next 15 seconds.
1:31:26 Speaker 03 15 seconds.
1:31:26 Speaker 04 Saying.
1:31:28 Speaker 06 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.
1:31:29 Speaker 04 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. Please, give me the lidocaine over the counter orally, please. I'll take the oral option. Oral, oral, oral. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.
1:31:40 Speaker 03 And that's one minute. Really good job. I do think, though, you might just need a good ol' shot. Shot in the back.
1:31:49 Speaker 04 What's?
1:31:50 Speaker 06 Oh, cortisone? Lay a little cortisone if there is a shot.
1:31:53 Speaker 04 That's what I'm saying. I said.
1:31:54 Speaker 03 Can you tell Bowen he needs a back shot?
1:31:56 Speaker 06 I mean, but here's the thing. If you get a back shot.
1:31:59 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:31:59 Speaker 06 You're gonna know why it is.
1:32:01 Speaker 04 What do you mean?
1:32:01 Speaker 06 Because if it's a muscle imbalance, the back shot won't help.
1:32:05 Speaker 04 I.
1:32:05 Speaker 06 Can you see my man, Jason?
1:32:07 Speaker 04 I would love to see your man.
1:32:08 Speaker 06 You gotta see my man, Jason. It may take four hours, but you will be fixed two days later.
1:32:13 Speaker 04 I have something on the books for next week, but this, this woman, she's in demand.
1:32:17 Speaker 06 No, you need to get it. Next week, you're gonna be better.
1:32:20 Speaker 04 Exactly.
1:32:21 Speaker 06 You need Jason tomorrow.
1:32:23 Speaker 04 Tomorrow. I booked her, I booked her last week.
1:32:25 Speaker 06 Can you do it this evening?
1:32:27 Speaker 04 We're figuring it out. Oh, they don't come at night, these people.
1:32:30 Speaker 06 Jason will.
1:32:33 Speaker 04 Oh my god.
1:32:33 Speaker 03 Alright, it feels like we're gonna get Jason's information.
1:32:36 Speaker 06 I'm gonna pass Jason PT.
1:32:38 Speaker 03 And then you gotta see, then you gotta see Dr. Dendy.
1:32:40 Speaker 06 Jason PT.
1:32:41 Speaker 03 Jason PT.
1:32:43 Speaker 06 Don't you like how you save people? Yeah, he's very handsome, but he's wonderful. And more than that, I mean, he's married, but more than that, he's gonna fix you.
1:32:51 Speaker 03 To a guy or a girl?
1:32:52 Speaker 06 To a woman.
1:32:55 Speaker 03 Cause he was married to a guy, it's kinda like, whatever. Six of one.
1:32:59 Speaker 04 Six of one and a half a dozen of what?
1:33:01 Speaker 06 Six, six, seven? I know, which cliche are you? Six of one, six, seven?
1:33:08 Speaker 03 Six, seven happened is when I was at Today Show, we were all trying to figure out what it was.
1:33:11 Speaker 06 I know, and then we just kept saying it so we could kill it. You know, it's like when adults start saying it, then the 10 year olds are like, my mom is saying that.
1:33:19 Speaker 04 And did it work at home?
1:33:20 Speaker 06 Yeah, I think we killed it successfully.
1:33:22 Speaker 04 Thank you so much.
1:33:23 Speaker 06 You're welcome.
1:33:23 Speaker 04 For your service.
1:33:24 Speaker 06 You're welcome. If there's anything else I can do for you, let me know.
1:33:27 Speaker 04 Well, we have an idea, how about and I don't think so, honey?
1:33:29 Speaker 06 Okay, now listen, I feel like I'm just, the preface is, I didn't know we were gonna talk so much books, but it's in the book vein, so let's go.
1:33:36 Speaker 04 There we go, it's in the book vein.
1:33:37 Speaker 06 Long grass hack. Okay, let's go.
1:33:40 Speaker 04 This is Jenna Bush Hager's I Don't Think So Honey, and her time starts now.
1:33:42 Speaker 06 Okay, I don't think so, honey, why are we banning all these books, y'all?
1:33:46 Speaker 04 Including the wicked book?
1:33:47 Speaker 06 Why are we banning the wicked book? Why are we banning To Kill a Mockingbird?
1:33:52 Speaker 04 Oh, come on.
1:33:53 Speaker 06 I posted a picture, I don't think so, honey, of my daughter reading The Summer I Turned Pretty, and you know what people said to me? They shamed me. I don't think so, honey. Don't we know that kids can find all, everything on youtube.com? We can give our kids iPads.
1:34:12 Speaker 04 30 seconds.
1:34:13 Speaker 06 We can give our kids phones, but you're taking Beloved by Toni Morrison out of our libraries? Guess whose job it is to make sure it's appropriate for your children? The librarians! They are trained. Now, listen, I know I'm biased, cause my mother was a librarian. She had a cat named Dewey, named after the Dewey Decimal System.
1:34:33 Speaker 04 Oh my god.
1:34:34 Speaker 06 I do think we should name cats after things that belong in the library, but I don't think we should be taking these books out. Leave it up to the librarians. I want my kid to read. Wanna know why? Books start conversations. Know what we're not having enough of in this country? Conversations! I don't think so, honey. And that's what it is!
1:34:58 Speaker 04 Wow.
1:34:59 Speaker 06 Wow.
1:35:00 Speaker 04 Rapturous.
1:35:01 Speaker 06 We're sitting somewhere really deep.
1:35:03 Speaker 04 I love it.
1:35:04 Speaker 03 It needs to come out. That's why I don't think so honey is a useful tool for American conversation.
1:35:07 Speaker 06 I bet. Honestly, I think if I was having a bad back.
1:35:11 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:35:12 Speaker 06 Getting those types of things out, you know, the body keeps the score.
1:35:16 Speaker 04 The body keeps the score.
1:35:17 Speaker 06 The body keeps the score.
1:35:18 Speaker 03 Well, you know, we're actually, we're holding all of our tension. I don't think so, honeys in our back.
1:35:23 Speaker 06 A hundred percent, or our hips.
1:35:25 Speaker 04 And our root chakra.
1:35:26 Speaker 06 And our root chakra. I mean, that did, I felt it come from my root.
1:35:31 Speaker 03 Soon they're gonna ban books about the root chakra. Kids aren't even gonna know what that is.
1:35:34 Speaker 06 Like the little engine that could.
1:35:36 Speaker 03 No, are they actually?
1:35:37 Speaker 06 I mean.
1:35:38 Speaker 03 It's at that, it's at that point.
1:35:40 Speaker 04 I mean, so I, I'm going to the Brooklyn Public Library gala on Wednesday and I, and I wrote a little speech and I got emotional. I went to the library on Saturday, wrote my little speech.
1:35:50 Speaker 06 You wrote it in the library?
1:35:51 Speaker 04 Yeah, I had to be on the nose about it. But it was so wonderful. I was like, oh, look at this. There's like adult jigsaw hour. There's eternity's zumba.
1:36:00 Speaker 06 Libraries are the, the cornerstones of our community. And when people need a place that is warm to go and have access to books. Also, like, what are we thinking, y'all? We're giving anybody access. My kid can go to like, you know, I don't know, chemistry and get on her little laptop and order shit from Amazon and not pay attention. But we're worried about the books that we house in our libraries. And as we know, representation matters. And a lot of what they're taking out is, is necessary for people to see themselves.
1:36:34 Speaker 04 One hundred percent.
1:36:36 Speaker 06 And librarians are not recommending things that are inappropriate to like seven or eight year olds. What are we doing?
1:36:43 Speaker 03 Also, what is inappropriate necessarily even mean? It's, it's a goalpost that tends to move depending on what the people in power need and how they can control people. So what's inappropriate is, by the way, debatable from the beginning, from before the beginning.
1:37:00 Speaker 06 It's up to parents who are not the ones that are actually banning the books. Ninety-four thousand books were banned last year in 2025. Ninety-two percent of them. Were were bit by institutions like, you know, by by NGOs, by people that are like big movements. It's not a parent that's like, hey, my kid came home with this because you're the parent. You can say, hey, how like we should be reading Charlotte's Web instead. Like, that's our jobs.
1:37:25 Speaker 04 Of course, it like, it like, it assumes that there's like no monitoring at any level for this thing, but like.
1:37:30 Speaker 06 Librarians are amazing, too. That's their job. And by saying, we we take these out, what we're saying is we're not empowering you to do your work.
1:37:41 Speaker 04 The libraries are so radical to the point that we've forgotten as a society how radical they are, which is you get free books and movies and resources and job, job opportunities because of this like free thing that everyone is entitled to.
1:37:56 Speaker 06 Exactly.
1:37:56 Speaker 04 It's amazing.
1:37:57 Speaker 06 You know, um, I was with Min Jin, this author who I love, who wrote Pachinko. And she told me, Min Jin Lee, and she told me that books actually made her brave. And she said, I'm so worried about kids not having access to books because where does that bravery going to come from?
1:38:15 Speaker 03 And also, it's not for nothing, but you know, these parents that think I want to control everything that my kids are consuming, that's not the point of their life.
1:38:26 Speaker 06 I know.
1:38:27 Speaker 03 They they are supposed to live their life. They, at a certain point, of course, like, you don't want your child exposed to something
1:38:34 Speaker 06 No.
1:38:34 Speaker 03 harmful, but exposed to something different
1:38:38 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:38:38 Speaker 03 is a good thing.
1:38:39 Speaker 06 It creates empathy.
1:38:41 Speaker 03 Yeah. I mean, I just, I.
1:38:44 Speaker 06 But also, we're living in a time where like five and six year olds are getting on YouTube, seeing anything.
1:38:49 Speaker 04 Anything.
1:38:50 Speaker 06 There's no regulation around YouTube. Yeah, we're regulating books.
1:38:54 Speaker 04 Right.
1:38:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, no.
1:38:55 Speaker 04 But but never a tech company.
1:38:56 Speaker 03 Um, what could be more inappropriate than what the president says on his social media every day?
1:39:03 Speaker 04 Right.
1:39:03 Speaker 03 Like, what, what, what could be more inappropriate?
1:39:05 Speaker 04 What, why are we not shielding that from like innocent eyes, quote unquote?
1:39:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, in a world where we are doing this like hierarchy of manners.
1:39:12 Speaker 04 Right.
1:39:13 Speaker 03 Like, and morals.
1:39:14 Speaker 04 But like I, but like I just, I wrote about how like. I was wandering the shelves of my library at the age of 13 and I stumbled across the CD-ROM original Broadway cast recording of Wicked. And I took it home and it changed my brain chemistry. And I'm like, I, like, the library is an important part of that story because it gives, it gives you a sense of place and time.
1:39:35 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:39:35 Speaker 04 With the discovery of something.
1:39:36 Speaker 06 Yes.
1:39:36 Speaker 04 Where now everything gets served up on our phones and I'm like, I don't know, I don't remember where I was when I discovered this new singer that I like.
1:39:41 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:39:41 Speaker 04 Which is fine.
1:39:42 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:39:42 Speaker 04 It's just how it is these days, but like, God, it's like the original third space, blah, blah, blah. I'm not saying anything new, but it's just, I think we, I think, thank you for letting us talk about how I genuinely think libraries are like the most emotional thing for me in my community. I go, it's one of my favorite places to go in Brooklyn. It has some of the cleanest bathrooms in the whole city. It's crazy. And that's, and that's something you can't count out.
1:40:05 Speaker 03 And there are interesting, interesting guys there.
1:40:11 Speaker 06 Who, who?
1:40:13 Speaker 03 My favorite bit is to go to the, my favorite bit is new bit, is to go to the men's room and just point at the sign and say, oh, that's where they are. And then I, and then I wink and I go in.
1:40:24 Speaker 04 That's where they keep them.
1:40:25 Speaker 06 You say it to all your friends, but like, that you're having dinner with.
1:40:28 Speaker 03 That's my one bit. And then my other bit is whenever you buy anything and they say the price, you just go to the cashier. My favorite price.
1:40:38 Speaker 03 And they laugh every time.
1:40:39 Speaker 06 Yeah, it works, right?
1:40:40 Speaker 04 Every time they laugh?
1:40:41 Speaker 06 Do they laugh every time?
1:40:43 Speaker 03 Some people are truly mean people. So, so they don't laugh.
1:40:47 Speaker 06 I can't imagine.
1:40:48 Speaker 03 But it's worth it.
1:40:49 Speaker 06 You don't get a laugh. Yeah. Cause then you know, they're kind of laughing inside.
1:40:52 Speaker 03 Well, if they don't laugh, that's when I go.
1:40:56 Speaker 03 And then they go.
1:40:58 Speaker 06 Wait, when y'all met, were you automatically best, besties?
1:41:01 Speaker 04 No.
1:41:01 Speaker 03 No.
1:41:03 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:41:04 Speaker 03 But it wasn't weird.
1:41:05 Speaker 04 It wasn't weird. It was just like, well, I, we knew of you, the other person, but we went to this show together and I think there was like a bit of a status mismatch where Matt felt like I had power over him.
1:41:18 Speaker 03 He was in the comedy groups already at NYU and I wasn't.
1:41:21 Speaker 06 Are you not the same age or you are?
1:41:23 Speaker 03 He's actually younger than me, but he.
1:41:25 Speaker 04 We're the same year in college.
1:41:27 Speaker 03 Same year in college, but he had auditioned for the comedy groups the first year and got on the improv group. And I didn't audition until my
1:41:35 Speaker 06 Well, that's because you were a track star. You were a track star.
1:41:37 Speaker 03 Delayed. Yeah. So then by the time I was auditioning, he had already gotten in the group. And we sort of knew each other a little bit and then they cut me from the improv auditions and I thought Bowen maybe had a hand in that.
1:41:49 Speaker 04 He blamed and I didn't.
1:41:50 Speaker 06 Did you have a hand in cutting out Jenna Bush Hager in the Bob skit?
1:41:55 Speaker 06 Maybe Bowen did cut both of us, Matt.
1:41:57 Speaker 03 But then the next day, the very next day I made it onto the sketch group and then I suddenly I was his equal. And he had to deal with that.
1:42:04 Speaker 06 I was also cut, my whole award was cut out of the Los Culturistas Awards.
1:42:09 Speaker 03 It's interesting, uh, it's interesting tactic you're doing, which is you asked us about us and then you kind of keep bringing it back to your award. I'm like, you know what I mean?
1:42:18 Speaker 06 It's actually why I'm here today. I'm hoping, like, have you already taped all of those? Those are all taped in the can?
1:42:25 Speaker 03 Do you want to give an acceptance speech right now? There's your camera, by the way. I'm an expert at knowing where it is.
1:42:29 Speaker 06 I'd like to thank.
1:42:30 Speaker 03 They gotta go, you're saying? Okay.
1:42:33 Speaker 03 So do you want to take us out with your acceptance speech?
1:42:36 Speaker 06 I'd really like to thank Bowen and Matt for the Today Show Excellence in the Morning Award. Is that the name of it?
1:42:42 Speaker 04 Yes, you got it.
1:42:44 Speaker 03 And, and now we're just gonna say that this was so fun.
1:42:48 Speaker 06 I love y'all so much. I will come back whenever and y'all both have to come back to the show.
1:42:53 Speaker 03 We are coming. Um, when are we going?
1:42:55 Speaker 04 Oh, yes. And sometime in June.
1:42:56 Speaker 06 For the Los Culturistas Awards.
1:42:58 Speaker 03 I think June 17th, we're gonna be there the day it comes out.
1:43:02 Speaker 06 The day to show.
1:43:03 Speaker 03 So we're actually gonna get to be on the 9 a.m. hour and the 10 a.m. hour.
1:43:07 Speaker 06 Oh, that seems like, once Matt was on GMA and I got real mad at him.
1:43:12 Speaker 04 I understand why. It doesn't feel right.
1:43:15 Speaker 03 I went on GMA once and she goes, the fuck?
1:43:23 Speaker 03 It's a rival term.
1:43:24 Speaker 06 I did. I'm like, you were a host on this show.
1:43:29 Speaker 03 It was before I was a host.
1:43:31 Speaker 06 No, it was.
1:43:32 Speaker 03 No, because you want to know what then?
1:43:32 Speaker 06 It was not.
1:43:34 Speaker 03 Jenna, it wasn't.
1:43:35 Speaker 06 It was, there's, we can look up the archive footage.
1:43:38 Speaker 03 Pull it up, pull it up.
1:43:39 Speaker 06 You had been the host once.
1:43:40 Speaker 03 Let me tell you something. Oh. It was, I know what it was because I was filming a piece of content with you for Rockefeller Center.
1:43:49 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah.
1:43:50 Speaker 03 And then I said, and then someone was coming and they go, okay, we just have to go because he has to go to GMA. And then you were like.
1:43:55 Speaker 06 It wasn't even GMA, it was GMA three.
1:44:00 Speaker 03 Holy shit. GMA three, GMA three. Thank you. This has been a joy.
1:44:05 Speaker 06 Love y'all.
1:44:05 Speaker 03 I love you so much. I'm obsessed with you.
1:44:07 Speaker 06 I love you guys so much. Oh, I can't wait for Kohella.
1:44:10 Speaker 03 Kohella, you're coming. We end, and by the way, watch, watch the morning program today with Jenna and Chanel. And I mean.
1:44:20 Speaker 06 Love you.
1:44:21 Speaker 03 Love you. And we end every episode with a song. Wait, but what was the theme song when I was guest hosting? Because now it's different.
1:44:29 Speaker 06 I know, I can't remember.
1:44:29 Speaker 03 It was, um. What's the, what's the Today Show theme?
1:44:34 Speaker 03 Do you remember?
1:44:35 Speaker 06 I mean, I listen to it every day and I have no idea.
1:44:44 Speaker 03 This is Today with Jenna and Friends.
1:44:46 Speaker 06 Guest starring Matt Rogers, comedian, podcast host, Matt Rogers.
1:44:56 Speaker 03 Bye. Bye.
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