Pod Insights Joe Marler Will See You Now Lucy Beaumont: Traitors Secrets REVEALED, Is Joe on Steroids? & Developing a Winning Mindset About this episode Joe pulls out all the stops to help Lucy overcome her TV losing streak and rediscover a winning mentality. Along the way he learns what Lucy thought of him when they first met, how an innocent mistake cost a stranger £75,000, and her theory for why Jonathan Ross murdered her in plain sight. Can the good doctor’s intervention turn around Lucy’s misfortune?
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1:29 Speaker 03 This episode of Joe Marlowe Will See You Now is brought to you by Giacomo. Style for every man, made simple. You did Taskmaster, didn't you? Where did you come on that?
1:40 Speaker 04 Probably last.
1:41 Speaker 03 Serial loser. That's what I'm sensing.
1:45 Speaker 04 Weakest link, last, pointless.
1:48 Speaker 03 Last.
1:49 Speaker 04 I was in the studio 25 minutes. It took me three and a half hours to get there.
1:54 Speaker 05 What was your actual first impression of Joe?
1:56 Speaker 04 When I first met you, I thought, "He's on steroids."
2:06 Speaker 03 Hello, you've found your way to my office. Welcome. This is Joe Marler. We'll see you now with me, Dr. Joe Marler. I ask questions, people get uncomfortable, and maybe, just maybe, I can make a difference. Bearing witness to this is my assistant, Jake. Jake, say hello.
2:24 Speaker 05 Hi, Joe. Hi, how are you?
2:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, good.
2:26 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:26 Speaker 03 Good. How are you?
2:28 Speaker 05 Joe, I'm really bloody good. I'm excited to be here.
2:30 Speaker 03 Really bloody good?
2:32 Speaker 05 Well, I mean, look where we are in your office. I feel like, I mean, you've got everything you'd need to be a fake doctor, basically. You've got a brain in a jar, leather suitcase. You've got the corpse of Mr. T. He's knocking about.
2:43 Speaker 03 I actually nearly became, like, a psychologist.
2:47 Speaker 05 How?
2:48 Speaker 03 Well, I, uh...
2:50 Speaker 05 Go on.
2:52 Speaker 03 I did psychology.
2:54 Speaker 05 Seriously?
2:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, AS level. Three months.
2:58 Speaker 05 An AS is like half an A level.
3:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:01 Speaker 05 You did three months of the AS. So you did a quarter of a half of an A level in psychology.
3:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:05 Speaker 05 And that was your answer to saying you nearly became a psychologist?
3:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:09 Speaker 05 Yeah. But I'm not saying anything either way. I'm just getting it clear in my head so I know what that is. But you are just very good at reading people and parrying a little root around in people's minds.
3:19 Speaker 03 Uh...
3:20 Speaker 05 I don't know if that's something you've always been good at. I don't know if you were like reading people on the rugby pitch.
3:23 Speaker 03 Um, no.
3:24 Speaker 05 No.
3:25 Speaker 03 No, wasn't good at that. I think with the awkwardness, I've always felt that you put someone in the right level of awkwardness, the right level of uncomfortability, you see the real person a bit more.
3:42 Speaker 05 Taking that as an example, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat. It's all very lovely. A police interview, they used silence to elicit answers that they might not otherwise get. I think this is gonna be somewhere in the middle.
3:54 Speaker 03 But they also used noise.
4:08 Speaker 03 Drop it like it's hot.
4:16 Speaker 05 Joe, tell me, who have we got on the show?
4:19 Speaker 03 We've got Lucy B.
4:20 Speaker 05 And what was your relationship like with her in the...
4:22 Speaker 03 We got really tight.
4:23 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:23 Speaker 03 We did get really close. There was a little group of us.
4:27 Speaker 05 Who was in the group?
4:28 Speaker 03 Me, Lucy, Kat, Nick Mohammed.
4:33 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:35 Speaker 03 Joe Wilkinson.
4:38 Speaker 03 Alan, he'd dip in and out.
4:40 Speaker 05 That's quite...
4:41 Speaker 03 Obviously it became apparent why he was dipping in and out.
4:43 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:44 Speaker 03 And Kat was sort of always there. I think Kat... I want to ask Lucy about Kat, actually.
4:49 Speaker 05 Yeah, what are you gonna ask her about Kat?
4:50 Speaker 03 Well, like, I think she looked most heartbroken when the face-to-face murder and she was like, "Oh, not you, Kat, ooh."
5:00 Speaker 05 What's your best... Give me your best...
5:03 Speaker 05 Give me your best Lucy Bowman accent, go on.
5:11 Speaker 03 "Oh, dear, like you're getting all bullshit for. You're not like this during the day and you get round to round table and then you get all, ooh."
5:22 Speaker 05 That's really good.
5:23 Speaker 03 Is it?
5:24 Speaker 05 It's really good. Does she mind? Just so I know, if I can do it when she gets in, will she mind?
5:29 Speaker 03 I think we avoid it.
5:30 Speaker 05 Okay.
5:36 Speaker 03 I think with Lucy, my time spent with her previously, I have got a theory that she's struggling with something.
5:46 Speaker 05 Okay.
5:46 Speaker 03 And I want to really change that around for her. Can we do that?
5:51 Speaker 05 Mate, your last theory was the big dog theory. It's one of the most famous theories of the year. This is... Any other theory you've got is... I want to hear it now, yeah. I'll tell you what, Lucy's not gonna have seen this wonderful office. We're gonna invite her in, she's gonna see it for the first time.
6:07 Speaker 03 Janet, please could you bring Lucy in? Thank you. Ta-ra.
6:14 Speaker 05 Nice.
6:20 Speaker 04 Need to change your wastepaper basket, Jer.
6:25 Speaker 04 Let's have a chat.
6:28 Speaker 03 Lucy!
6:28 Speaker 04 Hi, Jer.
6:29 Speaker 03 Welcome.
6:33 Speaker 03 How are you?
6:34 Speaker 04 I'm alright. Are you alright? Is it you? Are you AI?
6:37 Speaker 03 What can I do to prove to you that it's me?
6:40 Speaker 04 Eh... Have you got shorts on?
6:44 Speaker 03 I've got shorts on.
6:45 Speaker 04 Oh, it's you. It's you.
6:47 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:49 Speaker 03 Sorry, can I introduce you to Jake, my assistant?
6:52 Speaker 04 Hi, Jake. You alright?
6:53 Speaker 03 Yeah. How are you feeling?
6:55 Speaker 04 What do you mean, what do you mean by that there? Do you mean real profesi... do you mean like really? Or do you mean like, really?
7:03 Speaker 03 It's entirely up to you. That's what, this is a safe space for you.
7:06 Speaker 04 Is it?
7:07 Speaker 03 Yeah. Does it, does it feel safe?
7:10 Speaker 04 It feels...
7:12 Speaker 04 It feels so safe.
7:16 Speaker 03 Well, thank you so much for coming in.
7:18 Speaker 04 It's fine.
7:19 Speaker 03 The first thing I get our guest slash client to do is our intake questionnaire. Full name?
7:31 Speaker 04 Lucy Anne, without an E, Beaumont.
7:35 Speaker 03 What's your preferred name?
7:37 Speaker 04 I do actually like it when, you know, when you've just met someone and they just instantly call you Lu or Lu.
7:42 Speaker 03 You don't think it's too formal, or like informal?
7:45 Speaker 04 No, I really like it. I, I tend to warm to them quicker.
7:48 Speaker 03 Do you remember what I called you when I first met you?
7:50 Speaker 04 Lu or Lu. So you did, yeah. Yeah.
7:52 Speaker 03 It's because I actually adored you from the minute I saw you.
7:56 Speaker 04 Oh, thanks, Jer.
7:57 Speaker 03 Star sign?
7:58 Speaker 04 Leo.
8:00 Speaker 03 Leo?
8:01 Speaker 04 King of the jungle.
8:02 Speaker 03 The lion?
8:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, the lion, yeah.
8:04 Speaker 03 Is that true, though?
8:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a Leo.
8:08 Speaker 03 No, I think elephants are kings of the jungle.
8:12 Speaker 04 Why?
8:13 Speaker 03 Because they can stamp on lions.
8:17 Speaker 04 If you had, if you asked Chi Chi Chi B about that?
8:20 Speaker 03 Jake, Jake.
8:21 Speaker 04 It's worth checking.
8:22 Speaker 05 I think, I think lions are generally seen as king of the jungle. I think you're getting confused with elephants not forgetting.
8:29 Speaker 05 Sorry, Joe.
8:31 Speaker 03 Any known allergies?
8:33 Speaker 04 No, I'd like, I've, I've always wanted one.
8:36 Speaker 03 What's your biggest fear?
8:39 Speaker 04 Eh, like, eh, like getting ill or, eh, like offending people.
8:44 Speaker 03 Current emotional stability?
8:47 Speaker 04 Which?
8:48 Speaker 03 Could you do it by drawing?
8:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, sure.
8:53 Speaker 03 On this blackboard?
8:54 Speaker 04 Yep.
8:55 Speaker 03 Thank you.
9:04 Speaker 03 How do you feel about chalkboards these days after your recent experience?
9:08 Speaker 04 What, what recent experience?
9:12 Speaker 03 You know, that thing we did together.
9:14 Speaker 04 What? What did we do?
9:18 Speaker 03 We bugged off to a castle for three weeks and wrote names on pieces of chalk.
9:22 Speaker 04 Oh, gosh. Gosh. Fuck's sake.
9:32 Speaker 03 How are you getting on there, Lucy?
9:33 Speaker 05 She looks like she's doing quite well.
9:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, it seems quite detailed.
9:36 Speaker 05 I'm quite intrigued to see what you're gonna make of this.
9:38 Speaker 03 Quite detailed.
9:40 Speaker 05 This is, this is her current emotional state.
9:42 Speaker 03 Oh, I see.
9:46 Speaker 03 Why is it that you keep looking up at me whilst you're drawing that?
9:54 Speaker 03 Right.
9:54 Speaker 05 Can I just say, that is really, really quite impressive. That's a really, really, really great drawing.
9:59 Speaker 04 Thank you.
10:00 Speaker 03 Can you just explain
10:03 Speaker 03 how that really reflects your emotional state at the minute?
10:06 Speaker 04 Well, you here in front of me now is sort of everything that's going on. Thank you.
10:14 Speaker 03 Thank you, that was really quite impressive.
10:15 Speaker 05 Amazing drawing, Mr T.
10:20 Speaker 03 It's good, actually. You even got the wonky ears. It was decent. And you thickened up my hair, actually. Don't know if you've noticed.
10:27 Speaker 04 No, no, it's good, it's good.
10:28 Speaker 03 Have you noticed anything different about me since we've seen each other again?
10:33 Speaker 04 What is it?
10:36 Speaker 03 Hair transplant.
10:37 Speaker 04 You never have. Are you joking?
10:39 Speaker 03 Is it that bad?
10:41 Speaker 04 No, he looks amazing.
10:43 Speaker 03 Went to Leeds.
10:45 Speaker 04 Oh, Joe.
10:47 Speaker 03 What? Is that not... Should I have gone to Hull?
10:49 Speaker 04 No, just...
10:51 Speaker 03 Changed.
10:51 Speaker 04 It's a shame, isn't it?
10:52 Speaker 03 It's a shame.
10:55 Speaker 03 Back to the intake question here. Best friend?
10:59 Speaker 04 Really? Jackie.
11:01 Speaker 03 Jackie. Best friend on the Traitors?
11:04 Speaker 04 Uh...
11:08 Speaker 04 You. Cat. Cat was on Jay.
11:13 Speaker 03 So it's Cat?
11:13 Speaker 04 Joe. Other Joe. Nick.
11:18 Speaker 03 Would you like me to write all those names?
11:19 Speaker 04 I thought we were in a group until you started suspecting me.
11:25 Speaker 03 We'll just put Cat, shall we?
11:26 Speaker 04 Yeah. I thought we were all in a... It was me, you, Cat, Joe, Nick. We were... Thought that's it now. We're all gonna go on holiday together. And then as soon as you suspected me, I was like, no. No, I've done nothing for him to...
11:44 Speaker 04 Done no... Nothing for him to suspect me. And you ripped that group apart.
11:51 Speaker 03 Why did you turn on her? What do you mean, I ripped the group apart?
11:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, because I was like, I thought these were my... I don't get it.
11:59 Speaker 03 Okay, look, we're gonna get into that, Luce.
12:02 Speaker 04 Okay.
12:03 Speaker 03 We will get into that.
12:03 Speaker 04 But I'm not bitter about it.
12:05 Speaker 03 We'll have a chance. I can sense that there is no resentment or bitterness at all whatsoever. The whole room is just all love and joy. I can feel that.
12:18 Speaker 03 Do you consent to being analysed by someone who is not a real doctor? I'm not a real doctor.
12:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, I do, yeah.
12:25 Speaker 03 You do consent to it?
12:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, I do. I think the best people to assess your medicality are retired rugby players.
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14:16 Speaker 03 I'm just gonna give you my clinical observations to date, if that's okay?
14:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:22 Speaker 03 Taskmaster. You did Taskmaster, didn't you?
14:25 Speaker 04 Taskmaster.
14:28 Speaker 03 You did Taskmaster.
14:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:30 Speaker 03 Didn't you, Lucy?
14:30 Speaker 04 I did, yeah.
14:31 Speaker 03 Where did you come on that?
14:32 Speaker 04 Where did I come on it?
14:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:34 Speaker 04 I don't quite remember, but I probably last.
14:37 Speaker 03 It was last.
14:38 Speaker 04 Was it?
14:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was last. What about the Traitors?
14:41 Speaker 04 Oh, not last. Not like, well, what do you call... I think probably did quite well.
14:47 Speaker 03 You were 11th last.
14:50 Speaker 04 Right. Right.
14:53 Speaker 03 Virgin Island?
14:57 Speaker 04 No, I wasn't on it. Oh god, no. I did the voiceover for it.
15:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay, so you didn't win?
15:04 Speaker 04 Didn't, no, I didn't win being a virgin.
15:09 Speaker 04 Oh god, yeah.
15:10 Speaker 03 So it was last, so it was last, you didn't win it?
15:12 Speaker 04 I can tell you things.
15:17 Speaker 04 You won't believe it.
15:20 Speaker 03 So you didn't win it, did you?
15:22 Speaker 04 No.
15:23 Speaker 03 Serial loser. That's what I'm, I'm sensing.
15:27 Speaker 04 Weakest link. Last. Out.
15:31 Speaker 03 The list just goes on and on.
15:33 Speaker 04 Pointless.
15:34 Speaker 03 Last.
15:35 Speaker 04 I was in the studio 25 minutes. It took me three and a half hours to get there.
15:42 Speaker 04 That's massive.
15:47 Speaker 04 Michael McIntyre's The Wheel. I lost him on 75,000 pounds. Mastermind.
15:53 Speaker 03 Last.
15:54 Speaker 04 Last, but in the general knowledge, they said, which prime minister said it been by Berliner?
16:01 Speaker 04 Do you know what I said? Hitler. So you're right. I am a loser.
16:07 Speaker 03 Me and Jake are here to turn around that-
16:09 Speaker 04 Who's Jake?
16:10 Speaker 05 I'm over here.
16:11 Speaker 03 Jake.
16:11 Speaker 04 I thought it was a skeleton.
16:14 Speaker 05 That's not, that's not me.
16:19 Speaker 03 What me and Jake wanna help you do
16:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:21 Speaker 03 is turn around this losing streak.
16:24 Speaker 04 I'd love that.
16:25 Speaker 03 And give you a winning mindset.
16:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'd, honestly, I would genuinely, really, really love that.
16:32 Speaker 03 Well, let's get into it, shall we?
16:36 Speaker 03 Let's talk about your most recent loss. The traitors.
16:42 Speaker 04 Okay.
16:43 Speaker 03 How do you feel?
16:44 Speaker 04 Well, in what, how are you judging it? Because I think, I think I got on with everybody. Well, everyone got on with everybody, didn't they? But, you know, I judge it, our memories. And I've got some nice memories. I don't feel like I pissed anyone off.
17:03 Speaker 04 It's bonus.
17:04 Speaker 03 So what went wrong then? Why do you think they killed you?
17:07 Speaker 04 Um, because, um, the night before I told Jonathan I needed to do my tax return.
17:15 Speaker 03 Really?
17:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:18 Speaker 04 That's what actually happened.
17:20 Speaker 03 He was just doing you a favour the whole time?
17:21 Speaker 04 I just, I just said, I just turned to him and said, "God, I really need to do my tax return", then I was gone.
17:31 Speaker 03 So if you had your time again, would you not?
17:34 Speaker 04 I'd keep my financial affairs private. No.
17:37 Speaker 03 So that's what went wrong for you.
17:39 Speaker 04 Overshare.
17:39 Speaker 03 He actually gave you an early exit because you wanted to leave.
17:44 Speaker 04 I don't think they could decide, could they? It was silly, there was no threat to them.
17:49 Speaker 03 Why were you no threat?
17:50 Speaker 04 There was miles more annoying people than...
17:53 Speaker 03 Was there?
17:53 Speaker 04 No, joking. I think it was a mistake killing me off. But I was ready to go, you know? We'd been there a long time.
18:02 Speaker 03 We had been there a while.
18:03 Speaker 04 We were playing with murder in a castle with Claudia Winkleman.
18:06 Speaker 03 It was good, wasn't it?
18:07 Speaker 04 It was good, but like, did you have a moment where you're like, "People work for the NHS and stuff, like what? How are we doing?"
18:14 Speaker 03 The entire length of it, I was thinking that, like, what is going on here? But it was fun.
18:19 Speaker 04 Oh, it was, wasn't it?
18:20 Speaker 03 We made some good friends there. We had made some good connections, and we connected, didn't we?
18:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, we did, we did. Yeah, it was, it was lovely.
18:28 Speaker 03 There was that moment, and I'd completely forgotten about it, where the round table, I started going for Jonathan.
18:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:36 Speaker 03 And you turned around and said, "What's going on with you? You're not this cocky during the day, what's up with you?"
18:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, you'd suddenly like dialed it up, hadn't you? I was, I know, I saw that bit back and I was like, "I'm a bit shirty with you", but it was because I could tell you thought it was me.
18:52 Speaker 03 Hmm.
18:53 Speaker 04 You, you had suspicions on me and I was genuinely hurt, because I was like, "I thought you should have trusted me."
19:01 Speaker 03 Did you struggle with it then? Did you think like?
19:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:03 Speaker 03 You struggled with this isn't real life, this is?
19:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:08 Speaker 03 You just went, "It is real life", because you got really close to Kat, didn't you?
19:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, we all was close to Kat, but I think it was because, yeah, I felt like she would be the last person. I mean, I'm not bothered, but it was genuinely like, "Oh my God, I can't believe it's you", because she went, because we, what you do, don't you, if you get a friendship? Because she was like, "It's really not me, so honestly, it's not me."
19:32 Speaker 05 What was your first, what was your actual first impression of Joe?
19:36 Speaker 04 Um.
19:38 Speaker 04 Oh, it's a good question.
19:43 Speaker 04 When I first met you, I thought. He's on steroids.
19:51 Speaker 05 We all do, we all do.
19:54 Speaker 03 Did you?
19:54 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah.
19:58 Speaker 03 What gave you that impression?
20:00 Speaker 04 Well, the only men that I have known, you know, who were, who were stocky like you. Were like on, used to be on steroids, because I don't know any of spot, you know, don't.
20:10 Speaker 03 No, do you remember the chat when we would introduce each other and I, I, I.
20:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:15 Speaker 03 And you said, oh, what do you do? I went, I play rugby. And you went, what, like? Union or league or what sort of rugby? And then it, that moment for me. It dawned on me really quickly and it was so good for me to have happen. Was the first moment that I actually realised that when you're in this big rugby bubble. You think, oh, this is the biggest thing in the world, you know, it's massive, it means everything. You get into the real world.
20:42 Speaker 04 People don't know you.
20:43 Speaker 03 And they go, I'm a good clue, yeah?
20:45 Speaker 04 Oh, God.
20:46 Speaker 03 And I was like, yeah, you're right. You don't. And then you just judge people on who they actually are, not what they do.
20:52 Speaker 04 But no, I think it's better because if I'd have known you was and I could have been a bit intimidated, couldn't I? But I just thought, you seemed to laugh. You put me at ease and like you and Joe, I think you'd, you'd sort of got to know each other. You know, quite well. And I said, do you think he's a traitor? And he was like, nah, I know he's not. And he's like, he's really funny. And, um, you know, it, so I just thought he was a lad.
21:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
21:18 Speaker 04 So it's a nice guy.
21:19 Speaker 03 You touched on earlier that you felt like I betrayed you a little bit.
21:23 Speaker 04 You did. You did betray me. Because I, you, we were, I thought we'd formed a unit, you see, that's the thing, a faithful. Where and then you don't change your mind, do you? Like, right, these are faithfuls.
21:36 Speaker 03 But then the game just spanned me out completely, mate. I thought Mark, I was adamant Mark. Was a traitor. I was a hundred percent set on him being a traitor just because I'd watched Line of Duty the night before. And he said the same, in that episode, he goes, that's a moot point. And I remember watching it and the next day, we have a conversation and for some reason he said, that's a moot point. And I went.
22:01 Speaker 03 It's you. And he went, no, no, no, that's not, no, that don't confuse me with the characters, but I couldn't get that out of my head.
22:07 Speaker 04 Oh, that's hilarious.
22:08 Speaker 03 That is just what stuck. And I went, oh my God, it's Mark. And then all the exaggeration, I went, yeah, it's him. It's definitely him. I was adamant. And that's what the game, well, did to me. And that's why I then started looking around. I was like, the least likely people. I was like, well, Lucy, I've never considered you as a traitor, but we're getting this so wrong. I think it might be you.
22:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, no, it makes sense.
22:35 Speaker 03 Let's talk about how you exited the show. Do you remember?
22:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:41 Speaker 04 I remember.
22:42 Speaker 03 What was it?
22:43 Speaker 04 Uh, on a chessboard.
22:45 Speaker 03 Chessboard. What was your relationship like with chess before that happened to you?
22:52 Speaker 04 Honestly, I've really tried to stay away from chess.
22:55 Speaker 03 If I brought this out?
22:56 Speaker 04 Oh, God.
22:59 Speaker 04 I can't even look at it.
23:02 Speaker 03 How does it make you feel?
23:05 Speaker 04 This brings back bad memories, yeah, obviously from the show. And I've always tried to avoid chess. I don't agree with chess.
23:12 Speaker 03 Agree with it?
23:13 Speaker 04 I don't agree with it, no.
23:14 Speaker 03 What do you mean you don't agree with it?
23:15 Speaker 04 Well, what's it about? It's satanic, isn't it?
23:20 Speaker 03 If you were a chess piece?
23:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:23 Speaker 03 What piece do you think you'd be?
23:27 Speaker 04 The telephone.
23:31 Speaker 04 No, God, no. It's not Monopoly, is it?
23:37 Speaker 04 Why, what are they? What pieces are they?
23:41 Speaker 03 I'm gonna be straight with you.
23:45 Speaker 03 I haven't got a fucking clue about chess.
23:48 Speaker 04 Have you ever played it?
23:49 Speaker 03 No. Jake, please help here. That's the horse, is it?
23:54 Speaker 05 So, yeah, you've got the knight, which can jump over players. Bit of a wild card, that one, quite chaotic. The one that looks a little bit like a boob, have you got that one there? No, to the left? Yeah, that one, that's the bishop. So that's, I can go diagonal.
24:09 Speaker 04 What tits have you seen?
24:11 Speaker 05 Not many, really.
24:16 Speaker 05 And then you've got the pawns, they can only move one. They often like sacrifice those little ones there.
24:22 Speaker 03 Pawn, how are you spelling that?
24:24 Speaker 05 Uh, P-A-W-N.
24:26 Speaker 03 Quite a big issue with pawn at the minute, isn't there?
24:28 Speaker 05 Massively, but no age verification on chess, which is nice.
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24:59 Speaker 05 Um, I don't get to sign off on the wording of any of this.
25:04 Speaker 05 On the subject of fashion, I feel now we are close enough that I can ask you this. What's with the shorts?
25:11 Speaker 03 What do you mean?
25:11 Speaker 05 What was it that made you think, "I just always want my legs out"? Don't get me wrong, they're glorious legs.
25:17 Speaker 03 I don't know, I just like shorts. Plus, I quite like air in my undercarriage.
25:21 Speaker 05 Sure.
25:22 Speaker 03 That's important, you don't want to get too stuffy.
25:25 Speaker 05 You like shorts, I, um, fear them.
25:28 Speaker 03 Fear them?
25:29 Speaker 05 Well, I just think-
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25:43 Speaker 05 I'm a man, yeah, in some ways.
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25:45 Speaker 05 You've got men like you, men like me, we can always find something that we want. They've got the brands for different mans.
25:52 Speaker 03 Huge.
25:52 Speaker 05 Barber for the posh mans. Ralph Lauren for the people on the holiday mans. Uh, Boss for the boss mans, like you.
26:00 Speaker 03 Boss mans?
26:01 Speaker 05 Adidas for the sports mans, again, like you. Under Armour for the knights around the tables mans.
26:09 Speaker 05 So whether you're medieval sporty or a boss, bloody hell, they've got something for you. It's quite good, isn't it?
26:14 Speaker 03 Wow, this is huge. Giacomo, style and brands for every man.
26:24 Speaker 03 Now, I've been looking at your file.
26:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:26 Speaker 03 You've captained the University of Hull in University Challenge.
26:29 Speaker 04 Yeah. And we won.
26:33 Speaker 03 Jake, did Lucy win on that?
26:36 Speaker 05 Um, well, if she says she did, yeah. I mean, I, I, I looked at it and said she lost and I was like, oh, I don't want to counteract that.
26:42 Speaker 04 We did lose, yeah.
26:43 Speaker 03 You did lose?
26:44 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
26:45 Speaker 03 Lucy, lying.
26:48 Speaker 04 So, no, I honestly, for a moment, I thought we won.
26:50 Speaker 03 That's not going to help with our winning mentality.
26:52 Speaker 04 No, we won some rounds.
26:55 Speaker 03 Okay. So you captained University of Hull on University Challenge. You toured with Hull Truck Theatre. You also created sitcoms called To Hull and Back and Hullraisers. Would you say that you have a healthy, stable relationship with your hometown?
27:09 Speaker 04 It's the only place I feel like I fit in.
27:11 Speaker 03 Yeah?
27:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:12 Speaker 03 Where do you live now?
27:13 Speaker 04 Sheffield.
27:17 Speaker 03 Well, even though you've moved out of it, you should take great inspiration for your love of Hull. There's lots of winners from Hull. Um, I've actually got five here to inspire you. Big, well-known winners from Hull. Okay?
27:35 Speaker 03 I want you to rank them in order of most importance to the world.
27:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:43 Speaker 03 They've contributed to the world and made a difference.
27:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:45 Speaker 03 I'd like you to rank them. We've got Bonjella.
27:49 Speaker 04 Ah, I hated Bonjella.
27:51 Speaker 03 You didn't like it?
27:52 Speaker 04 No, you could just tell the kids at school, it was, mums had part-time jobs because they brought Bonjella in. Everyone else just had to get on with their ulcers. And then it was a big giveaway, you know, it was like, oh, got a bit of money.
28:05 Speaker 03 LCD TVs.
28:06 Speaker 04 I used to sell them.
28:08 Speaker 03 Chip spice.
28:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:10 Speaker 03 Dry shampoo.
28:13 Speaker 03 Birth of Anti-Slavery Movement.
28:15 Speaker 04 Guy's got a lot going for him.
28:17 Speaker 03 You need to rank them in order of most importance, please.
28:20 Speaker 04 Okay, well, obviously the birth of Anti-Slavery Movement.
28:26 Speaker 03 Were you gonna put that as number one?
28:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, I think so, but then that was a long, a long, long time ago, so it's maybe not as.
28:35 Speaker 04 It's William Wilber, it's the birthplace of William Wilberforce, you see.
28:39 Speaker 03 So you put in the Birth of Anti-Slavery Movement as number one?
28:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:45 Speaker 03 Really?
28:45 Speaker 04 Why, why do you not think it is?
28:48 Speaker 03 Well, just in the research, in an interview with The Guardian, I think you said the best thing about Hull was chip spice.
28:57 Speaker 03 Jake, is that true?
28:58 Speaker 05 January 2015 Lifestyle column, yeah.
29:02 Speaker 04 But I meant, you know how I get the two mixed up?
29:08 Speaker 04 I was always doing that on the traitors, wasn't I?
29:14 Speaker 03 Lucy, we have covered some very interesting topics today.
29:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:19 Speaker 03 Has it now helped you take that next step to that winning mentality?
29:24 Speaker 04 No.
29:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, it's all helpful, yeah.
29:32 Speaker 03 So do you feel like we've, we've really helped you today?
29:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, definitely.
29:37 Speaker 03 Understand a little bit more about yourself?
29:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm gonna go on Strictly now.
29:41 Speaker 03 And on the back of this?
29:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:45 Speaker 03 Where do you think you'll place in Strictly?
29:51 Speaker 04 Last.
29:52 Speaker 03 No.
29:53 Speaker 04 I'm gonna win it.
29:54 Speaker 03 You're gonna win it?
29:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:55 Speaker 03 You're a winner?
29:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:57 Speaker 03 You are a winner, let me hear you say it.
29:59 Speaker 04 I am a winner.
30:00 Speaker 03 I am a winner.
30:01 Speaker 04 I am a winner.
30:02 Speaker 03 Lucy, you are a winner. And you can leave this session a winner.
30:08 Speaker 04 Thank you.
30:08 Speaker 03 But before you do.
30:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
30:12 Speaker 03 We need to give you something, just to remind you, because I think those doubts will come back, but you need something to look down at and go.
30:20 Speaker 03 Winner.
30:24 Speaker 03 It's a badge.
30:25 Speaker 05 I've got a badge making kit over here.
30:26 Speaker 03 We also give our clients a lollipop, would you like to choose a lollipop?
30:30 Speaker 04 That's stupid.
30:34 Speaker 03 No, you've established that you're not stupid. But you don't want a lollipop?
30:39 Speaker 04 No, because they'll be laced with ketamine, won't they?
30:41 Speaker 05 Those ones are actually. Sorry, that's the wrong batch.
30:48 Speaker 04 Do you know, when we were filming, he said to me, "After I've eaten, I like to go to the toilets and like that." I went, "Do you want to come with me?" whilst we were filming. And I said, "Oh, go on then." I said, "I don't care what you do, I'll come with you." That'd be a good story. We went in the toilets, it was floss.
31:13 Speaker 04 It was floss.
31:15 Speaker 04 Oh, we're going to do a line.
31:21 Speaker 03 Jake, have you got Lucy's badge?
31:22 Speaker 05 We've got it here, and we've gone winner winner, chip spice dinner.
31:26 Speaker 04 I love it. I love it.
31:31 Speaker 04 That's brilliant. A lolly and a badge.
31:36 Speaker 03 And a winning mindset.
31:38 Speaker 04 And now a winning mindset?
31:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:40 Speaker 04 I'm going to be invincible.
31:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's the trifecta: lolly, badge, mindset.
31:46 Speaker 03 Don't know. That's yours.
31:50 Speaker 03 Lucy, thank you so much for coming. How have you found the experience?
31:53 Speaker 04 Exhilarating.
31:55 Speaker 05 You're a winner.
31:57 Speaker 03 Winner winner.
31:58 Speaker 04 Chip spice dinner.
31:59 Speaker 03 Chip spice dinner.
32:02 Speaker 04 It's true.
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