Pod Insights Joe Marler Will See You Now Josh Widdicombe breaks up with... HIMSELF?? About this episode Obsessed with the past, Josh Widdicombe confronts his nostalgia head-on in Dr Marler’s office. Together, they navigate absurd stories - including David Hasselhoff’s Berlin Wall claim and the cultural significance of Mr Blobby - and attempt blind rankings of the greatest moments in pop culture… with predictably chaotic results.
The session takes a surreal turn with a surprise intervention from Josh’s favourite TV doctor, Dr Karl Kennedy, before Joe sets him the ultimate task... meeting 90s Josh and finally breaking up with the past.
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1:30 Speaker 03 You have got quite a unique voice. I know, yeah. Is that your actual voice? Yeah, of course it fucking is. I wouldn't choose it. What? Are you prepared to let go of this obsession with nostalgia and start living in the here and now? No, it's too profitable to my career.
1:47 Speaker 03 I think the Beatles is the best, most important thing that's ever happened to humanity. That is fucking ludicrous, what has just come out of your mouth.
1:54 Speaker 04 Ludicrously accurate, brother.
1:57 Speaker 03 Are you ready to break up with the past? Yeah, I suppose so, yeah. Bring out 90s Josh, please. Oh, no.
2:06 Speaker 03 Oh wow, I didn't have that much bonflop, I'll tell you that.
2:12 Speaker 05 Hello and welcome to my office. This is Joe Marler, we'll see you now with me, Dr Joe Marler. This is the show where I mine deep into the heads of celebrities and try to escape before I've done more harm than good. With me as always is my trusty assistant Jake. Jakey! How are you, boy?
2:31 Speaker 04 Joey, how are you today?
2:32 Speaker 05 Ah, I'm just, I'm sorry, I said Jakey.
2:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, you don't like Joey?
2:37 Speaker 05 I'm not s-
2:37 Speaker 04 Does it remind you of being a baby kangaroo? Is that why you don't like it?
2:43 Speaker 04 Wow, that's the same pose you do for George Galloway. When you do your impression of Go On.
2:49 Speaker 05 George Galloway's this. Would you like me to put the cat?
2:53 Speaker 04 Whereas when you flip it like that, it's
2:55 Speaker 05 Boing.
2:56 Speaker 04 Little Joey.
2:57 Speaker 05 Do you like Jakey? I don't like Joey.
3:00 Speaker 04 Um, I do from the, if I know someone quite well, I like Jakey. Um, my mum used to call me Jakey Wakey. Always have a soft spot for that nickname. Uh, Jake the Snake.
3:10 Speaker 05 Only in the mornings though, surely?
3:12 Speaker 04 Jakey Wakey, yeah, or, well, actually, it wasn't really like an instruction Jakey Wakey, it was just like, Hey, here he is, Jakey Wakey. Yeah.
3:20 Speaker 05 That is shit.
3:22 Speaker 04 Oh, well, thanks for sort of tarnishing a core childhood memory of mine. Oh, by the way, that thing you held really close to your heart about your mum, it's shit! It's shit!
3:32 Speaker 05 I'm sorry.
3:32 Speaker 04 I like being nostalgic, actually.
3:34 Speaker 05 I'm sorry, do you?
3:34 Speaker 04 I like being nostalgic, yeah, why not?
3:36 Speaker 05 Oh god, not you as well.
3:38 Speaker 04 So you don't like looking back on stuff and being like, oh, I love those bands, I love those TV shows. Kids TV, you're not looking back at kids TV and think, that was fun?
3:46 Speaker 05 Uh, Patch Up, Funhouse.
3:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:48 Speaker 05 I'll go with that.
3:49 Speaker 04 Bernard's Watch, remember that one?
3:50 Speaker 05 Oh, Queen's Nose.
3:51 Speaker 04 Queen's Nose, these. Bernard's Watch, I loved because I would like fantasize about what I would do with the what. He, the power to stop time, do you know what he did? Well, you remember because you watched it.
4:02 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:02 Speaker 04 Do the overing. Oh, my mum, my mum, oh, my mum's told me to do the hoover and I haven't done it. I'll stop time and do that, that's all he would do.
4:08 Speaker 05 Good, because it stopped him getting in trouble.
4:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, I know, but come on.
4:10 Speaker 05 Why haven't you done your chores, boy?
4:12 Speaker 04 You're eleven, you're eleven, twelve years old, you can stop time, like, what would you do?
4:16 Speaker 05 You can't drive.
4:17 Speaker 04 You can't drive?
4:17 Speaker 05 Even if you go, oh, well, no one's gonna stop you because time, well, you haven't learnt. So you can't drive. You can't fly because you've stopped everyone else from making you fly.
4:24 Speaker 04 And you can nick stuff, you can nick loads of your favourite fast food from a fast food shop.
4:29 Speaker 05 Well, you can't because it's not cooked. Because you've paused time. Stopping time, you're restricted because you stop everything else from being able to work.
4:36 Speaker 04 It's quite a lonely, lonely place to be. Burner was probably very lonely.
4:39 Speaker 05 And that was what the message was actually about.
4:41 Speaker 04 Mmm.
4:42 Speaker 05 It was about, we come into this world alone, we live our lives alone.
4:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:46 Speaker 05 And we leave the world alone. And that is why it's such a profound.
4:49 Speaker 04 Very profound.
4:50 Speaker 05 Bit of TV. And it really underrated, it didn't get us enough awards.
4:54 Speaker 04 But you did hint that we do have a guest who might be quite into nostalgia.
4:58 Speaker 05 Yeah, well, we do, don't we?
4:59 Speaker 04 Can you do?
5:00 Speaker 05 He's obsessed.
5:01 Speaker 04 Can you, um, can you tell our listeners?
5:04 Speaker 05 Shall I tell them without telling them?
5:06 Speaker 04 Tell them with a voice.
5:07 Speaker 05 Oh, well, hello, my name's, no, you do it, I can't do it.
5:11 Speaker 04 Um, well, I'm, I'm here and I'm very happy to be here and, um, I'm very good to, it's Josh Whittaker.
5:20 Speaker 04 It's Josh Whittaker. Yeah.
5:22 Speaker 05 Top, top comedian.
5:24 Speaker 04 Top comedian. If you don't know him from his stand-up, you're known from his podcasting. If you don't know him from his podcasting, you're known from the TV. If you don't know him from the TV, then you will still.
5:32 Speaker 05 Probably not know him.
5:33 Speaker 04 You might not know, but you still enjoy the episode because my god, he's a talent and a half.
5:36 Speaker 05 Yeah.
5:36 Speaker 04 Josh is a bit of a pop culture obsessive. You are part of it now.
5:42 Speaker 05 What do you mean?
5:43 Speaker 04 You are part of the pop, the pop culture now. I don't think everyone has, um, a massive podcast like you.
5:49 Speaker 05 No, but everyone has.
5:50 Speaker 04 Everyone's on the wheel, mate.
5:51 Speaker 05 Everyone goes.
5:53 Speaker 04 What do you mean, everyone's? What are you talking about?
5:55 Speaker 05 If you're a significant.
5:56 Speaker 04 Not everyone goes and has dinner with Nick Grimshaw on a podcast, do they?
6:01 Speaker 04 Have you done that much of a DVD that you think, oh, this is just what everyone does?
6:07 Speaker 04 You thought, like, everyone gets a date in their calendar where they go for dinner with Nick Grimshaw?
6:10 Speaker 05 Yeah, no, really well played. I think Josh has spent enough time in Janet's waiting room. Shall we get him in?
6:15 Speaker 04 I would love that, yeah.
6:18 Speaker 05 Janet, release the beast. Send in Josh Whittaker, please. Thank you.
6:29 Speaker 05 Josh Whittaker, everybody!
6:30 Speaker 03 Hey! Hello. How are you?
6:34 Speaker 05 Hi Josh. Welcome.
6:36 Speaker 03 Thank you for having me.
6:37 Speaker 05 Thank you for coming.
6:39 Speaker 03 I like Janet. She's nice, isn't she?
6:42 Speaker 05 Is she?
6:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:44 Speaker 05 This is Jake.
6:45 Speaker 03 I'm fully aware of who Jake is.
6:47 Speaker 05 Oh.
6:48 Speaker 04 We... Sorry, I should have actually told you, we've got a bit of a shared past.
6:52 Speaker 03 What?
6:52 Speaker 04 Before you were my boss, Josh was my boss.
6:56 Speaker 03 Quite surprised when I saw him turn up on this and... I hadn't been asked to be a referee for him, that was an interesting turn of events.
7:04 Speaker 05 Yeah, this is interesting for me now. How are you, though?
7:07 Speaker 03 I'm very good, actually, yeah, good.
7:09 Speaker 05 We always get our patients slash clients slash guests, because we're not sure legally what to say...
7:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, fine.
7:16 Speaker 05 Or what to be able to call you, to fill out the intake questionnaire.
7:21 Speaker 03 Did I just kick your leg, then?
7:23 Speaker 05 You're trying to alpha me?
7:29 Speaker 05 Is that what's going on?
7:29 Speaker 03 Is it working?
7:31 Speaker 05 It is a little bit, yeah.
7:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, I thought it might be.
7:32 Speaker 05 A little bit ruffled. Right. Full name, please.
7:36 Speaker 03 Josh Michael Whittaker.
7:37 Speaker 05 Star sign?
7:39 Speaker 03 Um, Aries.
7:40 Speaker 05 Hmm. What does that mean?
7:44 Speaker 03 It's the ram.
7:45 Speaker 05 What parts of you are ram-like?
7:47 Speaker 03 What, personality or physically?
7:50 Speaker 05 It's your questionnaire.
7:51 Speaker 03 My willy hair.
7:52 Speaker 05 Pardon?
7:53 Speaker 03 My willy hair, my slightly curly hair.
7:57 Speaker 05 Forgive me. I heard willy hair.
8:00 Speaker 03 Oh, sorry, not my willy hair. No wonder you looked surprised.
8:03 Speaker 05 Occupation?
8:05 Speaker 03 Comedian.
8:06 Speaker 05 First comedian we've had in for a session that has just straight up gone, "I'm funny."
8:13 Speaker 03 No, I didn't say that, I said I'm a comedian. I think that a lot of people, you feel embarrassed by it, so you have to pretend to be bashful, but the truth is, I am a comedian.
8:23 Speaker 05 Really?
8:24 Speaker 03 That's why I'm sat here.
8:25 Speaker 05 And what's the definition of comedian?
8:27 Speaker 03 Um, someone that's done at least six Molek weeks.
8:33 Speaker 05 Biggest pet peeve?
8:35 Speaker 03 Oh my word, this is more of an opinion one, isn't it? The others were quite easy, because they're just facts.
8:39 Speaker 05 What's the biggest pet you've got?
8:41 Speaker 03 Uh, our oldest cat.
8:44 Speaker 05 What sort of cat is it?
8:45 Speaker 03 It's a Siberian.
8:47 Speaker 05 Tiger?
8:52 Speaker 05 Favourite decade?
8:54 Speaker 03 Uh, the nineties, though I've OD'd on it a bit, so I'm going back to the eighties a bit more with my interests.
9:01 Speaker 05 Oh, okay. What year, in fact, what year were you born? How old are you?
9:04 Speaker 03 Eighty-three.
9:05 Speaker 05 So that makes you...
9:06 Speaker 03 Forty-two.
9:08 Speaker 05 Forty-two? You've got such lovely skin and...
9:11 Speaker 03 Thank you.
9:12 Speaker 05 Actually, thick hair.
9:14 Speaker 03 You've got thick hair as well.
9:15 Speaker 05 I've had my done.
9:16 Speaker 03 Have you?
9:17 Speaker 05 Yeah.
9:17 Speaker 03 Oh. Well, why didn't you keep the rest of it then?
9:26 Speaker 05 When was the last time you cried?
9:28 Speaker 03 Do you know what? I think it was when I misjudged coming down off antidepressants and went too fast.
9:35 Speaker 05 You didn't do the tapering?
9:36 Speaker 03 Well, I'm now back up to ten milligrams.
9:38 Speaker 05 Really?
9:39 Speaker 03 Yeah. But I was on twenty.
9:41 Speaker 05 Yeah.
9:41 Speaker 03 But, uh...
9:42 Speaker 05 And what is it? I'm on...
9:43 Speaker 03 No, I tell you...
9:44 Speaker 05 Estipram.
9:44 Speaker 03 That's what I'm on.
9:45 Speaker 05 Okay, here we go.
9:46 Speaker 03 Here we go.
9:47 Speaker 05 There we go.
9:47 Speaker 03 What, what, what milligrams are you on?
9:49 Speaker 05 I'm on twenty.
9:50 Speaker 03 Are you?
9:50 Speaker 05 Yeah.
9:51 Speaker 03 The big number.
9:51 Speaker 05 And I've experienced that before where...
9:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:54 Speaker 05 Because it takes a while to build up for it to kick in, doesn't it?
9:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:57 Speaker 05 You've got to be taking it for a while, and then you seem to sort of level out and then you're on it. And then you're meant to taper off, but there was so often, especially early doors when I was struggling with it all, I was like, I feel much better.
10:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, of course.
10:09 Speaker 05 I'm not lying on the fucking pill anymore. They're gone.
10:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:13 Speaker 05 The fucking come down is hard.
10:15 Speaker 03 So what happened to me, I don't know when it was, about six months ago, was I was ill and it meant I forgot to take them for three days.
10:23 Speaker 05 Ah.
10:23 Speaker 03 And then I got better physically, but I was in a dark place. So I just was crying for no reason. So that's, that's the answer to that one.
10:32 Speaker 05 Oh, wow. Thank you for sharing that as well.
10:36 Speaker 03 It's all right.
10:36 Speaker 05 It's so, um...
10:38 Speaker 03 I think more people should talk about it because I think it's a really normal thing.
10:42 Speaker 05 Well, it's complete...
10:42 Speaker 03 And I was really...
10:45 Speaker 03 Worried about taking them. Cause I thought there was so much stigma attached to it. I thought it was a weakness in taking them. So did I. And I thought it meant that I'd lost. I can do this on my set. I can do this using my own mind. Totally. To actually fix my broken mind. That doesn't fucking work. I was like, what if it makes me not me? And I was like, but me is really sad. Oh, thank you. I really appreciate that. Um, biggest fear? Obviously like, things that would be the worst to like, being tortured. Or at war or something like that. Yeah. But that's not something that takes my day up.
11:24 Speaker 03 So really the actual fears that grip me are mundane and probably vain. So they are stuff like, just career fear, constant career fear. They're the things that consume me. But that, I mean, I'd rather my career disappeared than I was tortured in Iraq.
11:48 Speaker 03 You've got to choose one. You've got to choose. But that doesn't consume me. I very rarely think about Guantanamo Bay. So the thing that consumes me would be it all going away. But even, even, even after being, doing it for so long at such a high level. Not as bad as it was. Right, okay. But still there. It's still there. What would happen if it did all go away? I think it would be fine. The truth is. Would your wife and kids still love you? I don't know if they do as it is, Joe.
12:20 Speaker 03 It's such a sort of question of like, well, I hadn't even considered that was an option until you said that. And now it's a whole new level of fear about this unlocked. Tell me a secret.
12:31 Speaker 03 Good question. One of the side effects of escitalopram. Oh. Ha, ha, ha. I know you're interested. Yeah. It's more difficult to ejaculate.
12:42 Speaker 03 That's not a secret though. That's on Google, mate. I know. People don't discuss that. And I basically wanted to see what your reaction would be to saying it. What? Oh, don't tell people that. No, no, whether you, that's something you found. Yeah. Yeah, tell me then. You're like, fucking hell. What's going on here then?
13:03 Speaker 05 Do you know what I really like?
13:05 Speaker 03 What?
13:06 Speaker 05 That you have just come on here and properly
13:10 Speaker 03 I go for it.
13:11 Speaker 05 Comfort enough to open up.
13:12 Speaker 03 I think it's better to just go, I've decided in the last few years just to go for it on these things.
13:18 Speaker 05 Great.
13:19 Speaker 03 It's gonna bite me on the arse one day.
13:21 Speaker 05 Oh, definitely, definitely. And I'll be right there beside you.
13:26 Speaker 04 Neither of you coming.
13:36 Speaker 05 Right, let me get this straight.
13:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:39 Speaker 05 You are a pop culture obsessive.
13:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:42 Speaker 05 Is that right?
13:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:44 Speaker 05 But particularly pop culture of the past.
13:47 Speaker 03 Yes.
13:48 Speaker 05 You've alluded to it, the 90s, now you've, you've sort of OD'd on the 90s, you wanna go into the 80s.
13:54 Speaker 03 I, I dip my toe into the 70s and I certainly dip into the 60s.
13:58 Speaker 05 Really? That's ages ago.
14:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I think, I think the Beatles is the best, most important thing that's ever happened to humanity.
14:08 Speaker 05 Right.
14:10 Speaker 05 I'm sorry, we just need to take a moment.
14:15 Speaker 05 That is fucking ludicrous what has just come out of your mouth.
14:18 Speaker 04 Ludically accurate, brother.
14:21 Speaker 04 I'm with Josh on that.
14:22 Speaker 05 The Beatles
14:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:24 Speaker 05 Are one of the most overrated things.
14:27 Speaker 04 Oh, what a boring take, Joe.
14:29 Speaker 05 It's not a fucking boring take, is it? The boring take is they're the best thing ever to come out of this country. Are you taking a piss?
14:34 Speaker 03 Not this country, earth.
14:35 Speaker 05 Bollocks. Name one fucking thing that was good.
14:41 Speaker 03 What about the Beatles?
14:42 Speaker 05 Yeah.
14:43 Speaker 04 I just feel with the position he's set out, he'll find that quite easy.
14:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:49 Speaker 04 I feel like that would be, the challenge would be, that would be for you, but I mean, he's gonna find that quite...
14:54 Speaker 05 There's not a single song that you go, oh, that was decent.
14:57 Speaker 03 Are you, are you high?
14:59 Speaker 05 No, they were fucking high, thinking, thinking the music was good. I, I just think it's too much, mate.
15:06 Speaker 03 Too much Beatles?
15:07 Speaker 05 There's so much better, like, there's better music, way better music out there.
15:11 Speaker 04 I honestly think the Beatles-
15:12 Speaker 05 And I will always love you. There's one.
15:22 Speaker 03 Is that the Whitney Houston version or the Dolly Parton one?
15:27 Speaker 05 What do you mean?
15:30 Speaker 03 That song.
15:31 Speaker 05 Dolly Parton did Nine to Five.
15:33 Speaker 03 She did do that, yeah.
15:33 Speaker 05 And then she said, "Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene." Anyway, let's not, this is-
15:41 Speaker 04 So, uh, there's a little bit of egg on your face. Two out of the three songs you've just sung there were written by Paul McCartney from The Beatles.
15:48 Speaker 05 What?
15:48 Speaker 03 Wow.
15:50 Speaker 05 Sorry, what?
15:50 Speaker 04 And such is the power of The Beatles. So I can make something up like that and it could be true. And that is a proof that The Beatles are just so incredible.
16:00 Speaker 03 It's so true, Jake, so true.
16:02 Speaker 05 Really well played.
16:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, really good.
16:04 Speaker 05 That was fantastic. Anyway, back to you, Josh, and away from The Beatles.
16:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, if we must.
16:10 Speaker 05 You like old TV shows, old toys, old adverts. You've even got a podcast called Josh Widdicombe's Museum of Pop Culture.
16:18 Speaker 03 Correct.
16:18 Speaker 05 Now, museums don't have modern shit in, do you? So is it accurate to say that you're sort of living in the past? You're obsessed with the past?
16:26 Speaker 03 Culturally, yes. It is a problem.
16:28 Speaker 05 It's an obsession?
16:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:31 Speaker 05 Um, are you prepared to let go of this obsession with nostalgia and start living in the here and now?
16:36 Speaker 03 No, it's too profitable to my career.
16:42 Speaker 04 Maybe we should shift it to appreciate the present in equal balance then.
16:48 Speaker 05 Well, unfortunately for you, Josh, we're going to see if we can change your mind around-
16:52 Speaker 03 Are we gonna put personal growth above financial?
16:55 Speaker 05 Definitely. We're here to let go.
16:59 Speaker 03 I don't, I don't like that idea, but let's see.
17:02 Speaker 05 It's okay not to be okay.
17:03 Speaker 03 Okay.
17:04 Speaker 05 As they said in a non-Beatles song.
17:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:08 Speaker 05 It was actually Daniel Beddenfield, I believe.
17:10 Speaker 03 What's it?
17:11 Speaker 05 One of the greatest songwriters of our generation.
17:13 Speaker 03 The fifth Beatle.
17:14 Speaker 04 And in the words of him, "We've got to get through this," so-
17:17 Speaker 05 Oh, here we go.
17:21 Speaker 05 First of all, I want to know exactly what the Museum of Pop Culture is.
17:25 Speaker 03 It's a podcast.
17:26 Speaker 05 Sure.
17:27 Speaker 03 Where, um, I like the kind of podcasts where it's long stories over a few episodes, like Rest is History, or Uncanny, or Real Dictators, or ones like them, but they're all quite highbrow. I presume there'd be one for pop culture.
17:41 Speaker 05 Hmm.
17:42 Speaker 03 Because I like those stories. We all watch like the Robbie Williams doc, or the Pamela Anderson doc, or the kind of Martha Stewart doc, or the, all those docs that went Netflix, or the boy bands one. But there isn't a podcast that deals in these stories in a funny way, so I presume there would be, there wasn't, so I've made it.
17:58 Speaker 05 Reading through some of the things that you discuss on your podcast, um, what's this about David Hasselhoff bringing down the Berlin Wall?
18:09 Speaker 03 So David Hasselhoff, do you think there's a kind of, uh, misguided belief that he sung on the top of the Berlin Wall as it came down?
18:19 Speaker 05 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, are you aware of that?
18:22 Speaker 05 Yeah. Is he German?
18:24 Speaker 03 No, but he had a hit with a song called Freedom that was a big hit in East and West Ber- Germany. David Hasselhoff genuinely believes he played a part in the fall of the Berlin Wall. And he's on record as saying that.
18:37 Speaker 05 As in he helped it actually come down?
18:39 Speaker 03 Well, that he played a role in the...
18:42 Speaker 05 Uniting East and West.
18:43 Speaker 03 Uniting East and West. He performed, uh, on a cherry picker above the Berlin Wall, uh, on New Year's Eve, the, the year it fell, but he didn't perform on the Berlin Wall.
18:55 Speaker 05 What's your obsession with Mr Blobby?
18:58 Speaker 03 Well, I'm not obsessed with him, but it was the...
19:01 Speaker 05 Hmm, seems like you are.
19:03 Speaker 03 Does it?
19:04 Speaker 05 Yeah. Talks about him a lot.
19:06 Speaker 03 I just think he's one of the gr- the great... Underrated cultural phenomenon of my lifetimes.
19:16 Speaker 05 All right, this, thank you for coming out with that because that really helps support my argument. When you come out with a statement like the Beatles are the greatest thing.
19:28 Speaker 05 So I really, really appreciate that.
19:30 Speaker 03 Could I defend Mr Blobby?
19:33 Speaker 05 Yes, sure.
19:33 Speaker 03 Okay, so. Blobby, Blobby. Yeah, that's good. Blobby, Blobby, Blobby. Yeah, although it's slightly like you're doing an impression of me doing an impression of Mr Blobby.
19:45 Speaker 05 You have got quite a unique voice.
19:46 Speaker 03 I know, yeah.
19:47 Speaker 05 Do you, is that your actual voice?
19:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, of course it fucking is. I wouldn't choose it.
19:51 Speaker 05 What?
19:53 Speaker 05 Anyway, defending Mr Blobby.
19:54 Speaker 03 So he started on Noel's House Party as a one note joke to kind of wind up celebrities. People loved him because he was a kind of agent of chaos that would come in and destroy everything and he'd undermine celebrities and he didn't give a shit and he'd smash stuff up. But then he got too big. He, he had a number one single. He had a string of theme parks. The New York Times described him as everything that's wrong with a country gone soft in the head.
20:23 Speaker 05 What?
20:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, dare I say it?
20:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, disruptor.
20:29 Speaker 03 Disruptor. We need these disruptors.
20:32 Speaker 04 In fact, weirdly enough, on the Blobby thing.
20:35 Speaker 05 Are you comparing me to Blobby?
20:37 Speaker 03 As a compliment.
20:40 Speaker 04 When they were doing Clash of the Comics and they needed Joe to come on and bang.
20:43 Speaker 05 Oh, fuck. Oh, Jake.
20:46 Speaker 04 We found out when Russell Howard was on, he let slip, well, his producer did, that when they were gonna, they needed someone to bash James Acast around the head with a tray on Clash of the Comics. Joe got the job, but very nearly lost out to Blobby.
20:57 Speaker 03 Well, there we go. There we go.
20:59 Speaker 04 It was between him and Blobby.
21:01 Speaker 03 You are agents of anarchy together. And you should, you should be patting yourself on the shoulders to be held in the same breath as such a legend.
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22:45 Speaker 04 Guys, I've got a little challenge for you. I want you to put your heads together, and we're gonna do... Are you familiar with this Gen Z phenomenon of blind ranking?
22:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:51 Speaker 04 Oh god, that looked like it hurt.
22:52 Speaker 03 Fuck, it did, actually. I'm in the scrum. You're constantly trying to help me. Yeah, yeah.
22:57 Speaker 04 Blind rankings?
22:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, I know blind ranking. How are you meant to rank something with your eyes shut?
23:03 Speaker 04 Really nice stuff. I would actually open it for this, though, you're gonna need to see. We have got 10 iconic UK pop culture moments. You're gonna blind rank them together. Remember, once it's on the board, you can't move it, so think carefully what might be coming up. First one up, the bloke who put a whisk in his mouth on Come Down With Me. Where's that come?
23:25 Speaker 03 Great moment. Is that up there? No. It's not high. No. Surely that's a 10? Let's go eight, because there might be something really rubbish that comes along. That's pretty rubbish. All right, nine.
23:35 Speaker 04 We tried to book him for a show once and asked him to do the whisk thing, and you know what he said? "I'm actually trying to do less whisk stuff."
23:43 Speaker 04 Incredible. Next up, when Peter Andre wrote Insania in The Jungle.
23:47 Speaker 03 Oh yeah, he did do that, didn't he?
23:49 Speaker 05 That's not a thing.
23:50 Speaker 04 Big moment back in 2000 and whenever it was.
23:52 Speaker 05 He wrote a song in the jungle?
23:53 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, let's put that at 10.
23:55 Speaker 05 Mate, he only, the only thing about The Jungle with him was when he got with Jordan and she said he had a acorn for a knob. Isn't that right? She did say that.
24:04 Speaker 03 I don't remember that, but I don't follow that kind of stuff.
24:07 Speaker 05 You don't follow that?
24:08 Speaker 03 It's post 2005.
24:10 Speaker 05 Oh, shuff. Okay.
24:12 Speaker 04 When Nick Mohammed kicked out Joe on The Traitors.
24:16 Speaker 03 Great, great moment.
24:17 Speaker 04 Great moment.
24:18 Speaker 03 Very dramatic. I, oh! That might be the last time I cried. I cried when Alan won.
24:26 Speaker 05 Oh!
24:26 Speaker 03 Because, because of his emotional response, yeah.
24:29 Speaker 05 Which didn't actually last that long.
24:31 Speaker 03 No, I know.
24:32 Speaker 05 No, it was a good 25 seconds and then he was just back laughing in Peter's face.
24:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah. You did alright of it.
24:38 Speaker 05 Who, uh...
24:42 Speaker 04 We're all doing alright, aren't we?
24:49 Speaker 05 Put it at 1. It's a fucking winner.
24:53 Speaker 03 Uh, 3.
24:54 Speaker 05 Oh, as high as 3?
24:56 Speaker 03 Well, it was a great moment and it's got that, these things always skew recent, don't they?
25:02 Speaker 05 What the fuck is that?
25:03 Speaker 04 George Galloway pretending to be a cat on Big Brother.
25:05 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, that was a great Big Brother.
25:07 Speaker 04 Hell of a moment.
25:08 Speaker 03 The, the greatest ever celeb Big Brother, that one.
25:10 Speaker 04 Incredible.
25:11 Speaker 05 That's gotta be up there. It's one of my favourites ever. What?
25:14 Speaker 03 4.
25:15 Speaker 05 I was thinking more like 1.
25:16 Speaker 04 No!
25:17 Speaker 05 What's beating that?
25:18 Speaker 03 Well, we'll see, won't we?
25:19 Speaker 05 No, that's not the point of blind ranking.
25:22 Speaker 03 You'll regret it. You always go, you always save 1 towards the end.
25:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, and then the shit one. Very interesting insight into both of your sort of like, just attitude to life this.
25:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:29 Speaker 05 4.
25:31 Speaker 04 Okay, it's getting at 4. Gosh, I hope something beats it. John Prescott punching that bloke who egged him.
25:36 Speaker 03 That's not as good, is it?
25:37 Speaker 05 It's not great because he was a bit of a tit anyway, wasn't he? He deserved to be egged.
25:41 Speaker 04 Going in at 8, going in at 8. Who shot Phil Mitchell?
25:44 Speaker 03 I actually wouldn't even put that in my top 3 EastEnders moments.
25:48 Speaker 05 Oh, what would be your top 3 EastEnders moments?
25:50 Speaker 03 Number 1.
25:51 Speaker 05 Yep. Janine pushing Barry off.
25:53 Speaker 03 Well, that's up there, but I'd say my number 1 is "You're not my mum."
25:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:58 Speaker 03 "Yes, I am."
25:59 Speaker 05 "Yes, I am."
26:00 Speaker 03 Oh my god, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about that. I love that moment. That is one of the great moments of television. Absolutely. And Den and Angie?
26:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:09 Speaker 03 So this is nothing, mate.
26:11 Speaker 05 It's dogshit, actually. Seven, yeah.
26:15 Speaker 04 Oh dear. Salt Bay.
26:16 Speaker 05 Oh god.
26:18 Speaker 03 What's Salt Bay?
26:19 Speaker 05 It's that fucking tick.
26:20 Speaker 04 The bloke who did the salt.
26:21 Speaker 05 It's a salt and says hundred fifty quid for it.
26:24 Speaker 03 Can't stand that.
26:25 Speaker 05 I'll put it at one then, because you might as well, because we fucked it already.
26:29 Speaker 03 No, six. Let's go six. Let's go six. Don't throw it away, Joe.
26:32 Speaker 04 Don't throw it away, Joe, please.
26:33 Speaker 05 Give up on this.
26:34 Speaker 04 Uh, Gaz's Tears.
26:36 Speaker 03 Uh, that was good. That was good.
26:40 Speaker 03 Two.
26:41 Speaker 05 That's two? What year was it?
26:43 Speaker 04 Wednesday, the 4th of July, 1990, it was.
26:46 Speaker 05 Wasn't born.
26:46 Speaker 03 Wasn't born.
26:47 Speaker 05 You know, three days later. I'm putting that as number one, but.
26:51 Speaker 04 We're going Gaz's Tears number five.
26:52 Speaker 03 Well, because Joe wasn't born, doesn't count.
26:54 Speaker 04 Cabin Lady.
26:55 Speaker 03 Oh, one. No, we fucked this. Number two, why don't we fucking waste the whole thing?
27:00 Speaker 04 Uh, which means at number one, we're gonna have to go, um, when Richard and Judy were at that awards ceremony.
27:07 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:08 Speaker 04 Richard thought everyone wanted him to do is Alan G, but Judy's bra came out, so there you go.
27:12 Speaker 05 You're happy that that's number one?
27:13 Speaker 03 It's a classic moment, to be fair. Awful, really. Looking back.
27:17 Speaker 05 Yeah, there was a lot of me that is really disappointed in our choices.
27:21 Speaker 03 Shame they couldn't clear the images either.
27:33 Speaker 05 From my research.
27:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:35 Speaker 05 Which has been plentiful.
27:36 Speaker 03 Of course.
27:37 Speaker 05 Um, something that's really struck a chord with you as a child is your obsession with TV.
27:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:46 Speaker 05 In particular. Wait for it.
27:52 Speaker 03 Down on?
27:57 Speaker 03 Neighbours.
27:58 Speaker 05 Neighbours.
28:01 Speaker 03 Everybody needs good neighbours.
28:05 Speaker 05 With a little understanding.
28:11 Speaker 03 I think we've gone in too high.
28:13 Speaker 05 Well, you're the expert, so, uh, how obsessed were you then and why?
28:18 Speaker 03 I loved it. It was incredible.
28:20 Speaker 05 Toadfish?
28:21 Speaker 03 Toadfish Rebecca.
28:23 Speaker 05 Oh, you know his full name?
28:24 Speaker 03 So I used to watch Neighbours so much. I'd watch it if I was off school, both times, in a day, like a lot of us would. All of my friends would watch that. We'd talk about it the next day at school. It was, it was absolute, you know, the height of the monoculture, wasn't it?
28:44 Speaker 05 Wow, talking of Neighbours, Josh.
28:46 Speaker 03 Okay.
28:47 Speaker 05 I put word out amongst the fake doctor community.
28:51 Speaker 03 Right.
28:52 Speaker 05 And, uh, there's also a huge amount of concern out there for your obsession.
28:57 Speaker 03 Okay.
28:58 Speaker 05 With the nineties.
28:59 Speaker 03 Yep.
29:00 Speaker 05 And your inability to move on.
29:02 Speaker 03 Yep.
29:02 Speaker 05 And live in the here and now.
29:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:07 Speaker 03 He's not in there, is he?
29:11 Speaker 05 With this obsession and almost like the addiction, usually comes an intervention.
29:17 Speaker 03 Yes.
29:17 Speaker 05 Just press play on that, please.
29:19 Speaker 03 Oh, my word.
29:21 Speaker 08 Hello, Josh. Alan Fletcher here. Fletcher, I've always been enormously fond of you. We go back a very long way. Your love of Neighbours is legendary and I want to say thank you so much for loving the show so much because, you know what? You kept me in the job by watching it, so I'm very, very pleased. The thing is, the job is now finished and I've stopped watching Neighbours, but it appears you haven't. A lot of your friends are very concerned and I I share this concern and perhaps just a little bit of disappointment. Mate, it's time to move on. To be honest, you've got to stop living in the past and while you're at it,
30:01 Speaker 08 please, stay away from Rob Beckett. He's a very, very bad influence. All the best to you. I wish the best for you. Look after yourself, won't you?
30:11 Speaker 03 He delivers, doesn't he?
30:12 Speaker 05 He delivers. Lovely stuff.
30:16 Speaker 03 Do you know what? That's forty quid on cameo well spent, isn't it?
30:24 Speaker 05 For the Gen Z listener.
30:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:26 Speaker 05 Or watcher, that was.
30:28 Speaker 03 Alan Fletcher plays Dr Carl Kennedy.
30:30 Speaker 05 He was an integral part of.
30:31 Speaker 03 He was a GP, he was married to Susan and he used to have quite a lot of affairs with younger women.
30:37 Speaker 05 Yeah. I hope you enjoyed that.
30:39 Speaker 03 I did.
30:39 Speaker 05 He was clearly a big fan of your work and wasn't forced or paid to say those things. It's crazy that he knew you and Rob Beckett.
30:45 Speaker 03 Well, do you know what? A good actor's a good actor at the end of the day, aren't they?
30:57 Speaker 05 We've been trying our hardest to help you detach from your obsession of the past.
31:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:02 Speaker 05 How do you think we've done so far?
31:03 Speaker 03 Pretty good. Alan Fletcher certainly pushed a few buttons.
31:06 Speaker 05 Really helped.
31:06 Speaker 03 And getting those, getting that blind ranking wrong wasn't.
31:11 Speaker 05 Hmm.
31:12 Speaker 03 Didn't make, didn't feel very nostalgic, which was quite nice.
31:14 Speaker 05 Yeah, baby steps. We've made baby steps. We've got one final exercise.
31:18 Speaker 03 Okay.
31:19 Speaker 05 I need you to be ready.
31:21 Speaker 03 Okay.
31:22 Speaker 05 To break up
31:25 Speaker 05 with the past. Are you, are you ready to break up with the past?
31:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, I suppose so, yeah.
31:31 Speaker 05 Bring out 90s Josh, please.
31:33 Speaker 03 Oh no. Oh wow. I didn't have that much bum fluff, I'll tell you that. Do you know the main difference, Joe?
31:41 Speaker 03 Um, I was willing to pay the full price to get the official shirt rather than the knockoff one without the Umbro on it.
31:56 Speaker 05 Does, uh, 90s
31:59 Speaker 05 Does 90s Josh look familiar to you?
32:01 Speaker 03 Hmm. Um, not really.
32:06 Speaker 05 Not, not in the, like, this isn't what you looked like in the 90s?
32:09 Speaker 03 Full disclosure.
32:10 Speaker 05 Yeah.
32:11 Speaker 03 No, but, you know, I had short hair. Uh, I got glasses about five years ago. I.
32:21 Speaker 03 Didn't ever wear that hat and I had the official shirt. I did have a pair of Adidas poppers though.
32:26 Speaker 05 Okay, well there we have it. There we have it. That's all we needed. The one.
32:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, the one little hook.
32:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, for you to feel like this is you. This is 90s you.
32:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:36 Speaker 05 This is, this is you, Josh.
32:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:38 Speaker 05 This is 90s you.
32:39 Speaker 03 Okay.
32:40 Speaker 05 Don't be disorientated. I know that happens. It can be traumatic. Look at the past life of you.
32:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:45 Speaker 05 Don't, don't worry. We want to help you let go of the past.
32:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:50 Speaker 05 And live in the present.
32:51 Speaker 03 Okay.
32:52 Speaker 05 Take all the time you need.
32:54 Speaker 03 Okay.
32:56 Speaker 05 But you need to break up with 90s Josh.
33:00 Speaker 04 For the audio listener, he looks like Josh from the waist down.
33:06 Speaker 03 Pretty, pretty antidepressant.
33:16 Speaker 05 Huge.
33:16 Speaker 03 Huge. So, um, Josh, it's been a lovely 30 years together. But, um, I don't feel like
33:29 Speaker 03 there's anything left. Feel like we've done it all.
33:34 Speaker 03 It's a cliche to say it's not you, it's me, but.
33:41 Speaker 05 No, but I, but sorry to interrupt. I know it's your thing. But that doesn't work. It is you.
33:47 Speaker 03 It is me. Yeah, yeah.
33:48 Speaker 05 But you just said it's not you, it is me.
33:50 Speaker 03 Yeah, so it is me.
33:51 Speaker 05 But that, that's, that is not gonna work in terms of letting go because it is you.
33:55 Speaker 03 Oh, I see. So it's not you, it's not, it's not me, it's me.
33:57 Speaker 05 Yeah.
33:58 Speaker 03 So it's not me, it's me.
33:59 Speaker 05 Yeah. There you go.
34:01 Speaker 03 Um, and I've been seeing someone else. The 80s.
34:07 Speaker 05 Look at his little face.
34:08 Speaker 03 But I hope, I, it's not gonna last with the 80s. So one day, I hope I'll be with the present day.
34:17 Speaker 05 Beautiful.
34:18 Speaker 03 Beautiful.
34:19 Speaker 05 That really is, isn't it? I think we've really made.
34:22 Speaker 04 Now then.
34:23 Speaker 05 Maybe for some real closure, would you like to give 90s Josh a cuddle?
34:28 Speaker 03 No.
34:34 Speaker 03 Is that what you do when you break up with someone, Joe?
34:38 Speaker 05 Me?
34:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:39 Speaker 05 I've never had to break up with him.
34:40 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
34:44 Speaker 05 Josh.
34:45 Speaker 03 Yep.
34:45 Speaker 05 I'm proud of you.
34:46 Speaker 03 I'm proud of you.
34:48 Speaker 05 What?
34:49 Speaker 03 Don't know.
34:51 Speaker 05 You've come a long way.
34:52 Speaker 03 So have you. You were a rugby player three years ago.
34:55 Speaker 05 Before you go though, mate, we give you a badge.
34:58 Speaker 03 Oh, yes, please.
34:59 Speaker 05 Every client slash patient slash guest.
35:01 Speaker 03 Great.
35:02 Speaker 05 A badge. Any ideas of what you want written on your badge to remember the journey that you've gone through today?
35:07 Speaker 03 Um, it's 2026, baby.
35:10 Speaker 05 Mmm, sure. Good choice. What have we gone with?
35:16 Speaker 04 We've gone with, it's 2026, baby.
35:20 Speaker 03 There we go.
35:20 Speaker 04 Great choice.
35:21 Speaker 03 Thank you.
35:22 Speaker 04 See you, Josh.
35:23 Speaker 03 Let's hope that this episode goes out still in 2020. Oh, thank you. I'm having a lollipop.
35:28 Speaker 05 Oh, green it is.
35:29 Speaker 03 Green Plymouth Argyle.
35:31 Speaker 05 Up the Argyle.
35:32 Speaker 03 Up the Argyle. Come on. Was that an innuendo?
35:37 Speaker 05 What? It wasn't for me.
35:39 Speaker 03 No, me neither.
35:40 Speaker 05 Well, you've made it.
35:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:42 Speaker 05 Josh, welcome everybody.
35:46 Speaker 05 Thanks, Josh. What a legend. If you want to join the doctor's waiting list, please subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Instagram, at We'll See You Now Show. Remember, unless it's not clear enough already, I'm not a real doctor. If you need any professional help, you'll find a link to great support services on our Instagram. I've been Joe Marler and this has been Joe Marler. We'll see you now and I'll see you next time. Bye bye.
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