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In this episode of Joe Marler Will See You Now, hosts Joe Marler and Jake Bhardwaj welcome TV presenter, author, and therapist Anna Williamson to their comedic pseudo-therapy office. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, from Anna's personal history with panic attacks and an abusive relationship to the mechanics of therapy supervision, the importance of rapport, and the surprising psychological origins of cleftrophobia. Along the way, the trio dives into the nature of gossip, share embarrassing royal encounters, and test out practical breathing and distraction exercises for managing acute anxiety in high-pressure situations.
What makes the episode worth listening to is the unique balance between genuine mental health insights and laugh-out-loud absurdism, such as Joe attempting to drink four pints of milk in sixty minutes while Jake reads an advertisement. Anna shares vulnerable details about her past mental breakdown and driving her car toward a central reservation, while also explaining the vital concept of supervision in professional therapy. The episode provides both practical grounding techniques for panic attacks and a hugely entertaining dynamic between the hosts and their guest.
Hosts open the episode with a brief introduction and a promotional segment for the Apple Sports app.
Joe and Jake introduce the episode’s guest, Anna Williamson, and discuss the host’s childhood name change from Luke to Jake.
Anna explains practical breathing and distraction methods for managing panic attacks, including a step‑by‑step ladder technique.
Anna shares her upbringing, early career as a TV presenter, and her personal experience with panic attacks and therapy.
Joe, Jake, and Anna discuss their own claustrophobia and cleftophobia experiences, and how exposure therapy helped them.
Anna connects her post‑birth trauma to her later claustrophobia, revealing how childbirth experiences can trigger anxiety disorders.
The hosts transition to a light‑hearted gossip discussion, reflecting on the role of gossip in their lives and careers.
The hosts discuss how gossip functions in society and how it affects personal relationships, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries.
A host recounts a specific rumor about a rugby player, illustrating how gossip can spread and impact reputations.
The episode includes a commercial break where the hosts promote the Refund Club, explaining how listeners can claim money back from mis-sold car finance.
The hosts test each other’s quick‑fire gossip judgments by naming celebrities and giving instant reactions.
The episode wraps up with reflections on the session, acknowledgements, and final sign‑offs from the hosts.
Jake's Real Name Was Lukestory
Jake reveals that for the first six weeks of his life, he was actually named Luke before his parents changed it due to concerns about schoolyard teasing. He calls his mum on speakerphone to prove the story, confirming they used a welcome home balloon with the name Luke.
The Dildo Discovery Nightmareinsight
Anna recounts a shocking story from her podcast involving a woman who discovered a dildo in her parents' drawer, used it for the best orgasm of her life, and later found out it was a life-size plaster of Paris replica of her dad.
Risotto Mishap With The Kingstory
Anna describes an embarrassing encounter where she tried to bow, curtsy, and shake hands all at once while holding a finger bowl of risotto in front of the then-Prince Charles, ultimately stumbling and spitting risotto on his face.
Therapy Supervision Cyclesinsight
Anna explains that regulated therapists have regular supervision sessions where they dump their difficult cases onto another professional, leading to a humorous realization that supervisors themselves have supervisors in an endless cycle.
Driving Toward The Reservationstory
Anna opens up about hitting a severe mental breakdown in her twenties during an abusive relationship, admitting she had fleeting thoughts of driving her car into a central reservation just to get a few weeks off the hamster wheel of life.
Childbirth And Cleftrophobiainsight
Anna links her own struggles with cleftrophobia, or the fear of being trapped, back to giving birth with a spinal block where she was immobilized from the neck down and could not get off the delivery bed.
“I just did all of them at one go.”
“When I was born, I was named Luke.”
“I was absolutely inundated with people saying, oh my God, that's me, that's me, that's me, that's me.”
“The first one I wrote, Breaking Mad, The Inside is Guide to Anxiety, was exactly that.”
“I pull up at chair to that window and I'm there by the curtains.”
“Look, I've been doing this long enough to know that everyone's gonna have an opinion of you and it's none of my business what anyone's opinion is of me.”
“I love a bit of idle gossip.”
Anna Williamson turns the tables on Joe Marler - putting him on the therapist's couch to unpack panic attacks, anxiety and cleithrophobia. She opens up about what first drew her to therapy and her own experiences with mental health, before turning her attention to Joe and Jake as they get real about their own experiences. Anna offers practical advice and techniques you can actually use, no matter what you're dealing with. Of course, it doesn't stay entirely serious. There's a detour into gossip, chat about mould-a-willy's, and Jake gets a little ahead of himself before Joe brings him back down to earth. GET TICKETS TO THE LIVE TOUR HERE: https://www.livenation.co.uk/joe-marler-will-see-you-live-tickets-adp1647830 Featuring Joe Marler (@joemarler17) and Jake Bhardwaj (@jakebhardwajtv) Follow the show on Instagram: @willseeyounowshow Joe Marler Will See You Now is a Platform Media production. Refund Club is a trading style of Sandsford Law Limited, authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA no. 8008114). Checking is free. A fee is payable only if your claim is successful. Eligibility: car finance taken out in the UK between 2007 and 2021. The average claim is around £829 per agreement; this is an average and not a guarantee of the amount you will receive. You can also claim yourself for free by contacting your lender or the Financial Ombudsman Service. http://refundclub.co.uk/marler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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