Jocko Underground: Sometimes We See People Treating Kids Horribly.

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• 0:00Jocko Willink?

  This is the Jocko Underground Podcast, number 209. Shout out to Stockton.

• 0:08Jocko Willink?

  Echo Charles sitting here, unfortunately not the Diaz brothers, which would be a hell of a lot better.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 0:14Jocko Willink?

  They might get their take on things, you know what I'm saying?

• 0:17Speaker 01

  That would be, yeah.

• 0:18Jocko Willink?

  That would be legit. But, we do have Echo Charles, and we do have questions from you all out there in the field on the frontlines. We're gonna give you courses of action to help you get through and navigate these challenges that you face. So let's get to it.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  Okay, first question.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Okay, how to deal with witnessing parents neglecting and/or abusing children when I'm out in public? Okay, I was neglected, I was a neglected child of awful parents myself, and now I'm a father of a toddler. I've been getting more and more hypersensitive to witnessing how badly the majority of parents treat their children. Things like parents and relatives feeding small toddlers sugar and junk food, ignoring their fair requests, verbally mistreating them, playing physical aggression, smoking tobacco nearby, provoking toxic hazardous examples. Oh, sorry, providing toxic and hazardous examples and environment to children, etc., etc.

• 1:20Speaker 01

  Although I make sure I direct my eyes away from people when I'm at places full of families with kids, I still see these things way too often, and it bothers me, and I feel there's nothing I can do to help. I can only cry. After becoming a father, a bunch of things change deep inside me, and I can't help to see my own child in all children. Please help.

• 1:44Jocko Willink?

  Well, yeah, that's obviously very rough to see, and...

• 1:51Jocko Willink?

  I mean, you know, the one thing you said, like, if you see someone that's physically abusing a kid, obviously you can step in and stop that from happening. Now, do people have different opinions of what physical abuse is? Yeah, because some people think spanking is okay and some people don't. So you got to be even careful with that one. But yeah, seeing these kind of mistreatment is awful.

• 2:19Jocko Willink?

  And unfortunately, there are a lot of awful things going in, going on in the world, whether it's kids that are grievously ill, whether it's elderly that are left on their own, whether it's people experiencing

• 2:35Jocko Willink?

  hunger and even starvation, whether it's victims of war or other forms of mass violence, whether it's people that are depressed and or homeless and or addicted. Sometimes these are veterans or other people that are vulnerable. So

• 2:55Jocko Willink?

  you know, and not to mention you get into things like animals that are abused and mistreated. So there is so much negativity out there in the world. And

• 3:10Jocko Willink?

  unfortunately, there is just no possible way to help everyone that deserves help.

• 3:18Jocko Willink?

  And do I sound cold blooded when I say that? Okay, I mean, I feel, you know, you feel cold blooded when you say that. It's like we cannot help everyone.

• 3:31Jocko Willink?

  So I think what we can do

• 3:36Jocko Willink?

  is try to be positive in the areas and with people that we actually can have an impact on, right? How can you help?

• 3:49Jocko Willink?

  Help people that you actually have the power to help?

• 3:53Jocko Willink?

  And I think when you recognize that, you recognize that there's some people that you cannot help. This is sort of like, you know, you ever heard me talk about, you know, when you're in combat, there's some things you have no control over and you can't worry about the things you have no control over because you're focusing on them and it's going to distract you from the things that you actually do have control over. Well, I again, I don't mean to sound callous, but it's a similar situation here where there are people directly around you that you can help. And but if you're focused on a bunch of people around the world and around the yeah, around the world, around the country that you are like, oh, distraught because they're in a bad situation, you might be missing out on the people that are directly in front of you that

• 4:35Jocko Willink?

  you can't help. So I think if you can separate those two, it allows you to focus, it allows you to reach the people that you can reach, and it actually allows you to have a real impact, a real impact.

• 4:47Jocko Willink?

  So you can have a real impact and you can help so many people. What kind of volunteering can you do?

• 4:57Jocko Willink?

  Right? What, what kind of volunteering can you do? What kind of a after-school mentorship program? What kind of boys' club can you join to help? What are those Big Brother program? Like, what are those things that you can do where you can truly have an impact? What about charity? How much can you help out a charity that helps with kids that are in bad situations? I guarantee there's shelters. I guarantee there's programs, programs that are out there. I guarantee that there's that they need money. I guarantee that they need volunteers. I guarantee that they really need help. And that if you went and stepped in, you would actually be able to help real, real kids.

• 5:38Jocko Willink?

  And I think that the more that you do that, the more you are able to help other people, the more, I think the more that you help comfort other people, the more comfort you will have.

• 5:53Jocko Willink?

  So there is so much that that we can do.

• 5:58Jocko Willink?

  And listen, again, can we can we save the world? Nope, we can't save the world. But can we help? The two kids that are going to the same school that your kid goes to that?

• 6:11Jocko Willink?

  Are are not getting the best treatment at home? Can we help those kids? Yeah, we probably can. Are they showing up to school late? Are they showing up to school without? Pens and pencils to do their homework with like what what's going on? And how can we help them out? And then you know what? You find out that there's a big brothers, big sisters program. And you get involved with that thing. Or maybe you start a boy scout thing and all of a sudden you start a boy scout or some kind of a scouting troop or whatever. And all of a sudden you've got 10, 12, 14 kids in there. And you're putting all them on the right path. So. Maybe it's a jujitsu club. Maybe it's a basket after school basketball, whatever the thing is. You can help these kids out. You can help kids out.

• 6:59Jocko Willink?

  And I think that is the path you have to be on is just.

• 7:05Jocko Willink?

  Just be a light in the world, right?

• 7:10Jocko Willink?

  And and if you can do that, if you can provide some hope, even in dire situations, that that little bit of light that you can give to a kid.

• 7:21Jocko Willink?

  Can help diminish all this darkness.

• 7:26Jocko Willink?

  And if you do that. This will. Have an impact over time. Because one or two or three or five of those or 10 of those kids are going to remember. And they're going to change and you're going to break that cycle. And guess what they're going to do? They're going to help five, 10, 15 kids themselves. And all of a sudden.

• 7:46Jocko Willink?

  There is.

• 7:48Jocko Willink?

  Some.

• 7:50Jocko Willink?

  Light. In these areas of the world. That would have been completely dark.

• 7:58Jocko Willink?

  So that's my recommendation, man.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, you said, I'm kind of with this guy, by the way, like, you know.

• 8:06Jocko Willink?

  Yeah, I think we all are. I mean, it's.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, but you know how you just, you mentioned, what did you just say? Oh, yeah, you said different people have different attitudes about like spanking, for example, or whatever. And so some people, let's say on that spectrum, let's say they're kind of, let's say deepen on that continuum, right? Where they they're hard charging, you know, tough love, like in this way, that's like, and every once in a while, like when you witness a kid getting disciplined and you just see their little face. I don't know. I feel like sometimes, I don't know, I feel this sometimes, pretty much all the time where I'm looking at the kid. I'm like, brother, the kid kind of came like that. You know, he didn't have to get like punished in that way.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Like, you know, the idea of like punishing them versus like, hey, guiding them into a correct like thing, rather than, oh, you did this, you made this mistake. And then now you just get freaking punished, you know, for the mistake, rather than, oh, no, no, that's the, they made a mistake. And it's like, hey, no, no, that was a mistake. Like, that's the wrong way to do it. Do it this way and show them the right way. You know, you don't, a lot of times you don't really need punishment. I don't know. That's, obviously, there's many philosophies on the thing. So I get it. But.

• 9:13Jocko Willink?

  By the way, the research that I did, because we got asked about this, uh, on this podcast, like, whatever, in the past. And the, the spanking, generally speaking, is not beneficial. Generally speaking, is not beneficial. So, and again, this is like me reading through a bunch of research and going, oh, so this doesn't really help. And they kind of explain why you're like, that makes sense.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:38Jocko Willink?

  That's kind of like what you're saying, like a kid, you know, a six year old kid, you can get them to stop whatever behavior they were doing right then. But it's not helping your relationship. It's showing them like that, that's what punishment is.

• 9:55Jocko Willink?

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