Jocko Underground: Is It Reasonable to Relax Your Situational Awareness Sometimes?

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< https://www.jockounderground.com/subscribe 1. Sleep or Stay Alert? Question: As a frequent traveler, how do you balance situational awareness with the need to sleep while traveling? 2. Is It Time to Leave Law Enforcement? Question: With police officers increasingly being prosecuted after use-of-force incidents, when should an officer consider changing careers? 3. Missing the Team I BuiltQuestion: After leaving a leadership role I built from the ground up for a larger company, why do I feel less fulfilled and how do I regain my motivation? 4. Dream or Loyalty? Question: Should I pursue my lifelong dream of becoming a Marine officer or stay loyal to the wildland firefighting crew that invested in me? 5. Push Through or Let Him Quit? Question: How do I help my troubled younger brother build confidence and discipline when he wants to quit boxing like he quit other activities? Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Jocko Willink?

  This is the Jocko Underground Podcast, number 218 with Kerry Hilton, as Echo is currently very, very preoccupied with a extended vacation.

• 0:16Jocko Willink?

  So Kerry's here in his stead.

• 0:19Speaker 01

  What's up?

• 0:20Jocko Willink?

  Ready to get it done.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 0:22Jocko Willink?

  And we got some questions from you all, from the troopers on the front lines where the rubber meets the road. And we will try and provide, in some cases, answers, in some cases, recommendations, in some cases, guidance, and at a minimum, some courses of action that you can proceed down to try and navigate this little thing that we're doing called life. What do we got?

• 0:46Speaker 01

  First question, Jocko, I fly a lot and keep situational awareness, both at the airport and in the air paramount in my mind. However, sometimes I'm just tired, man, and I want to sleep, but I find it difficult to allow myself that rest, especially when family is with me for fear of missing something. As a fellow frequent traveler, how do you find this balance, if any? Many thanks.

• 1:14Jocko Willink?

  Check. Well, first of all, it's good to have some concerns, right? We definitely want to have situational awareness. We definitely want to make sure we know what's going on around us. And we're traveling, there's a lot going on. And it certainly is a time where fatigue can get in, kick in, because long travel, get up earlier than we normally do, we stay up later packing, like, there's a bunch of things that can add to us being tired. Sometimes, I, I mean, not some, I plan to be tired on the plane. That's what I plan to do. I'll get a little bit of extra work in before I get on the plane, which generally means I'm a little bit tired.

• 1:51Jocko Willink?

  So, cool, you're going to be tired. That's understandable.

• 1:56Jocko Willink?

  There's a couple of things going on here. First of all, airports are safe. Generally speaking, airports are safe. There are security people all over the place. There's metal detectors before you go in there. There's cameras everywhere. Like, those things are basically in lockdown, right? So the the number of bad actors in, generally speaking, in an airport are relatively small. Now, look, obviously, there are occasional terror activities that go on or criminal activities that go on. But even criminal activities, like, there's not too many places in the world where if you leave a bag somewhere, it's gonna get taken care of, like, they're gonna announce it.

• 2:36Jocko Willink?

  And by the way, no one's gonna take it. Like, you leave a bag on the street somewhere, it's gone in three minutes. You leave a bag in the airport, it'll stay there because everyone knows that there's cameras everywhere. Like, airports are pretty freaking secure.

• 2:51Jocko Willink?

  Now, that being said, I, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm generally not gonna sleep in the terminal. That would have to be some way, some crazy, you know, overnight, some kind of situation, canceled flights, something like that, where I'm actually gonna sleep in the terminal. I just generally would just not sleep. I would just BTF around in the terminal, right? I've probably purposefully slept in the terminal a handful of times. And this is one of those things where part of it is like, oh, well, I'll find some place where there's no one else around and sleep there. I think in an airport situation, like, I might do that if I was stranded in a city. I might try and find some place where there's nobody.

• 3:34Jocko Willink?

  But in an airport scenario, I think I would just sleep where other people are because, again, there's so few bad actors that if somebody decides to try and rip you off or try and do some nefarious shit to you, like, everyone will see it, right? And they'll be like, what are you doing? Whereas in the city, you can actually find places that are desolate enough where you could probably get some Z's, you know, in some area where no one's gonna find you.

• 3:59Jocko Willink?

  That's in the terminal, right? So I'm gonna try not to sleep in a terminal. Hey, once I'm airborne in a plane. Uh, this is a, a, a, a highly contained environment. There's air marshals onboard generally. And if something crazy happens, I'm gonna know about it real quick. So I sleep straight up. I get onto a plane, into a plane, that thing takes off. I have no problem being asleep.

• 4:28Jocko Willink?

  The chances that something so drastic happens that I need to be awake, like, because let's, let's face it, if the plane is crashing, I, I don't have any, uh,

• 4:40Jocko Willink?

  I'm not gonna have much influence over that, you know? It's gonna, the plane's gonna rip apart. I'll have my parachute on by that time and I'll get out and pop my parachute and be good to go.

• 4:51Jocko Willink?

  Just kidding.

• 4:54Jocko Willink?

  That does, you always, if you know how to skydive, you're always like, wouldn't it make sense? Wouldn't it make sense if I had a parachute with me? Cause it would. Cause you could just like bail out and just pop your parachute and be good GTG.

• 5:09Jocko Willink?

  But you know, if someone's, if someone like decides to hijack the plane,

• 5:15Jocko Willink?

  I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna be woken up within three seconds. And gonna, I also, you know, I'm, I do window seats. So I'm not exposed in the aisle, even if someone tried to get to me while I was asleep, I'm gonna know about it. So yeah, when I get on a plane, I'm gonna get some sleep. So I guess that would be my recommendation to you. Suck it up in the terminal, stay alert as much as you can.

• 5:42Jocko Willink?

  And then once you get on a plane and you're really tired, cool, get some sleep, put your head up. So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko Underground Podcast. So if you want to continue to listen.

• 5:56Jocko Willink?

  Go to jockounderground.com and subscribe and we're doing this, we're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms. So we are not subject to their control and we are doing this so that we can support the Jocko Podcast, which will remain as is free for all, as long as we can keep it that way. But we, but we are doing this so we don't have to be under the control of sponsors. And we're doing it so we can give you more control, more interaction, more direct connections, better communications with us. And to do that, we are, we're building a website right now where we'll be able to utilize to strengthen

• 6:41Jocko Willink?

  this legion of troopers that are in the game with us. So thank you. It's jockounderground.com. It costs $8.18 a month. And if you can't afford to support us, we can still support you. Just email [email protected] and we'll get you taken care of. Until then, we will see you mobilized underground.