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• 0:00Jocko Willink?

  This is the Jocko Underground Podcast, number 174, sitting here with Echo Charles. We're going to review some of your questions and provide courses of actions that will help you through various scenarios. So that's what we got.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  All right, cool. First question. Good evening, Jocko and Admiral Charles.

• 0:24Speaker 01

  I have a dichotomy of sorts. I've embraced the path. Thanks to your podcast and your books. I've read them all. I'm in a much better place. I'm waking up at 5:30 to work out for two hours. I'm only eating clean and tracking my macros. As a result, I've gained eight kilograms with just 18 pounds of lean muscle. However, in one of your earlier podcasts, you said you'd want an operator to be built like a truck and not like a Porsche. As I'm training for selection for Portuguese SOF, I wonder if, if I should continue with my quote unquote "clean routine" or if I should train with less sleep, a crappier diet, eating sand,

• 1:06Speaker 01

  and no warm-up instead. I'm afraid I might get back to my old self and become less disciplined if I follow the latter course of action, thus hindering the work that I've put in and still have to put in to be 100% ready for the selection. In addition, I also fear that training in those conditions would make me more injury prone. Also, I was wondering if you had any tricks to prevent or deal with colds and injuries during BUDs when you couldn't make, when you couldn't take supplements, or if you just BTF'd through it. Thanks for all you guys. Thanks for all the good work you do. Echo, keep crushing. Cruising. And pressing record.

• 1:47Jocko Willink?

  Dude, got a little fan out there, huh?

• 1:49Speaker 01

  My man is in the game 100%.

• 1:52Jocko Willink?

  So check it out. Combat is not pretty. It is chaotic and it's not by any, by any means. constrained to the niceties of life and I'm going to imagine I don't know too much about Portuguese soft and their selection process but I'm guessing that the selection is going to be similar to most special operation selection courses it's going to be a gut check but so that being said I think it's cool to keep up these kind of high performance Drago style workouts and I'm not talking about Drago the seal my brother Drago I'm not talking about that Drago I'm talking about the movie Ivan Ivan Drago right

• 2:38Jocko Willink?

  so this sounds like this guy's doing Drago type workouts right in the digital with the computer and the all that stuff as opposed to the Rocky workouts in the snow in the in the barn with the ax right so those are those are sort of the dirty so I would I would probably integrate some of that into your workout right you don't want to get you don't want to miss out on anything you want to miss out on any training because there are legit things where if you're just not used to it it could catch you

• 3:10Jocko Willink?

  so maybe do some random gut checks you know once every three or four days do something that just sucks you know like run four miles carrying a sandbag or do 500 burpees or you know farmers carry for a mile one hand with whatever pounds gonna hurt you see what I'm saying like doing some stuff like that because if you do some stuff like that you're going to be prepared you're going to learn how to adapt to it and you're going to be a little bit tougher because of it

• 3:44Jocko Willink?

  as far as as far as diet goes I I actually think I would inject a little bit of like a little bit of dirtiness into the diet because you don't want to get I've I've seen people that would react badly to not the best food and again I'm assuming that in your selection process you're not going to get the best food maybe sometimes you won't get much food at all maybe sometimes you'll get you know meal ready to eat from the military or you'll get some some chow hall slop so you're not going to get some perfectly you know zone perfect food

• 4:19Jocko Willink?

  and so you don't want that to upset you so probably yeah like once a week maybe do some some maybe you know like a cheat day type thing but just eat some regular food don't lose your mind

• 4:32Jocko Willink?

  You know what I'm saying? Don't go crazy. But.

• 4:37Jocko Willink?

  You know, eat some stuff that's maybe not perfect.

• 4:41Jocko Willink?

  Uh, and I'll tell you, if this kind of stuff, if like you're worried about you're losing your, your, your discipline.

• 4:48Jocko Willink?

  If you're worried about that from having a cheat day and doing some dirty workouts, you, you got bigger problems. I don't, I don't think you will. Are you think you're worried about something you shouldn't be worried about?

• 4:59Jocko Willink?

  And also we asked about no warmup. Yeah, sometimes you just do stuff like. Again, you don't want to do a heavy deadlift with no warmup. That would be stupid. But to go out and go for a run without a, like a, okay, I'm going to do a four minute cycle and then I'm going to do a stretch and then I'll do my run. No, like sometimes you get to go out, pace yourself so you don't blow out a hammy. I think that's the most common industry in injury is just blowing out a hammy doing sprints. You ever blown a hammy doing sprints?

• 5:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I pulled my hamstring in football.

• 5:34Jocko Willink?

  There you go. So you blown out a hammy doing sprints. So that's a real common thing that can happen. You don't want to do that. But you know, you don't want to, you don't want to require a perfect warmup every time you do a workout. Or every time you get tasked with something challenging. Cause in the field, you're not going to get a warmup. Right? You just all of a sudden people start shooting at you and you gotta, got a down man, you gotta just pick them up and carry them. There ain't no warmup involved.

• 5:59Jocko Willink?

  So. That's what I would do there. I guess I would, what I'm saying is induce a little bit of chaos, a little bit of combat, a little, a little bit of chaos combat to your workouts, to your diet. A little bit of chaos. Selection, I can about guarantee is there's going to be some chaotic moments. And if you do that, you'll be in a good spot. And then you're also wondering if I had any tricks to deal with colds or injuries during BUDs. When you couldn't take supplements, you don't need supplements to overcome anything. You know, I, we, we even had, I guess there were supplements when I went to BUDs, but no one, I didn't know one person that took any supplements. Uh, I think somebody had a power bar. Remember power bars? Yeah, I remember power.

• 6:43Jocko Willink?

  I think people had power bars. I think I tried them and I was like, this thing tastes terrible. Yeah, it's kind of joke. But there wasn't any big supplementation thing. Dude, just eat, eat some good food, some whole food. Occasionally eat some crappy food just to make sure your gut can handle it. But here's the other thing, you're gonna be sick and you're gonna be injured during training. Just like fighters going into fight in the UFC. Oh, I got a little bit of a sprained ankle. Of course you do. I got a little bit tweaked shoulder. Of course you do. Oh, I got my ribs. I got hitting the ribs. Yeah, of course. You don't go into a fight 100%. Doesn't happen. And in selection, you're gonna be, you're gonna have a sprained ankle, you're gonna have a hurt elbow, you're gonna be coughing up, you know, snot.

• 7:28Jocko Willink?

  You're gonna be sick as a dog.

• 7:31Jocko Willink?

  And you're gonna be injured.

• 7:34Jocko Willink?

  And that's just the way it is. So that's no factor. This is the only one you think about it. Just, just don't even think about it. Just keep going. And when you're right now, while you're training, if you're sick, like go, go work out, do what you can. Got a little injury, do what you can. Don't hurt yourself. Don't get yourself sicker, but go do what you can.

• 7:56Jocko Willink?

  No factor. Yeah, it's kind of where I'm at. Less sleep. Yeah, occasionally. You know, see what it feels like to do the less sleep thing. Cause he's asking if I should train with less sleep, crapier diet. And no warmup. Yes, yes, and yes. You know, optimize, don't do it all the time. You need sleep to recover. But like, maybe, and I don't know what you do for a job, but you know, maybe on Fridays, instead of going out to the bar, getting drunk or whatever, I don't think you're doing that, but instead of doing something stupid. That's doesn't simulate selection, do something stupid that does simulate selection.

• 8:33Jocko Willink?

  You know what I'm saying? Like do, like sleep three hours and four hours or something like that and get up and go do a run and see how you feel while you're doing that. And then take a nap in the afternoon, you'll be fine. So I would do that. I would introduce a little chaos to your world. You don't want to be a Porsche. You want to be a four by four and you'll be in a better spot. That's what I got.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  As you say, that's probably one of the like weak links where you get someone who's like really, as you would say, a stud physically, but introduced to the slightest adversity and they're not used to that. So mentally it'll feel like your body's breaking down. Like I'm like, my body's injuring itself right now, but it's really not. You're just not used to that kind of adversity physically, you know, so mentally. Yeah, yeah.

• 9:18Jocko Willink?

  Oh, you got a cold, whatever.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 9:20Jocko Willink?

  Oh, you're coughing up, whatever.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  Bruh. Yeah.

• 9:22Jocko Willink?

  Your ankle hurts? Yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:24Jocko Willink?

  It's like, yes, that's the way. Yes, it does. Cool. No one cares.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. With clean PT, bruh, if you're sick, you better rest.

• 9:31Jocko Willink?

  Yeah.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  It's rest time. You know, your ankle is out, bruh. You better not be doing any kind of squats on that ankle. It won't heal up. See what I'm saying? You won't be at your, at your best, you know? It's not about that.

• 9:42Jocko Willink?

  Just BTF.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  BTF.

• 9:43Jocko Willink?

  BTF, BTF, BTF, BTF.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  Freaking actual BTF Tony like broke his damn.

• 9:51Jocko Willink?

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• 10:35Jocko Willink?

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