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0:00 Jocko Willink? This is the Jocko Underground Podcast, number 136, sitting here with Echo Charles.
0:06 Jocko Willink? The first time I saw Theo Von was after, you remember when Conor McGregor hucked that hand truck at the bus with Khabib's crew in it? Yeah, I remember that. So that came out and that happened and Theo Von made a video and I didn't know who Theo Von was. I hadn't seen him before, but it was a one-minute video that he made and he basically was saying that everyone's freaking out right now because Conor McGregor threw a hand truck at this bus. And then he says, but the truth is, everyone's freaking out, but bus things been happening
0:50 Jocko Willink? around Greyhounds and these buses forever. This is just the way it goes and no one really cares. Cause everything, no one cares in general. Why are we caring right now? Because everything's happens again. He lists off the things that happened at a Greyhound bus. Violence. I believe he says selling grams and copping grams.
1:12 Jocko Willink? Wifi down, he says, the big one was adult drinking Similac, which I know I have four kids, but I didn't know what Similac was. I had to look it up. It's, it's, it's Pedialyte, basically. It's like a kid's drink of some kind, but I guess sometimes maybe some drug addicts, they need food or something or hydration. So they drink Similac. Get them some Hydrate, I guess, if we wanted to. So he goes off on this thing, missing people, showing up.
1:40 Jocko Willink? And, and he says, you know, it's never been an issue before, but now we're pretending like it's a big issue. And then he says, if you're going to ride a bus, you got to recognize that bus shit is gonna happen.
1:54 Jocko Willink? And then he says free Connor. So it's funny, right? Yeah. I gotta kick out of it. And of course he's does it much funnier. But it's a very, it's actually a very good thing to remember. In life and it's surprising how often people forget that bus shit is gonna happen. And when I say bus shit, I don't just mean bus. There's, if you get involved in certain arenas of life. Some things can happen in those arenas that we can't pretend to be surprised when they happen. For exens, for example, if you go out drinking tonight. And you drink from, let's say eight or nine o'clock at night and you drink until two o'clock in the morning
2:38 Jocko Willink? or three o'clock in the morning. And you happen to get into a fight, rolled up, knocked out, arrested. And you get surprised by that? Guess what? If you start training jujitsu and you're training jujitsu all the time. And then you get your elbow popped and you're in a state of shock like I can't believe this happened.
3:02 Jocko Willink? If you go into business. If you go into business, if you do a startup. And then you look forward six months down the road and you're real tight and lean on money. Maybe you see the end is nigh. Or you can't buy the things you want to buy because you don't have the money that you thought you were gonna have. Because the business didn't go the way you expected. And you see your bank account emptying out and now you're surprised by that. Or, and we kind of talked about this the other day with one of our podcast guests. You go to war, this is a serious one, you go to war and then you're surprised when people get killed. So.
3:43 Jocko Willink? War, you know, if you go drinking, drinking shit is gonna happen. If you go train jujitsu, jujitsu shit is gonna happen. If you go into business. Business shit is gonna happen. And if you go to war. War shit's gonna happen. So, and by shit, by shit, I mean the bad stuff, right? Cause there's all kinds of fun stuff that happens when you go out drinking, right? You go to the pub, you go to the bar, you go to meet the girls, all that, that's all fun. But the shit's gonna happen too. Same thing with jujitsu. Look how much fun comes with jujitsu, all kinds of fun, all kinds of conditioning, all kinds of being in good shape, all kinds of confidence, all kinds of meeting people. That's all good, but some shit's gonna happen too. Business, hey, it's cool.
4:27 Jocko Willink? You create jobs, you create, you build something, you grow something. Like, there's a lot of benefits that can come from that, a lot of positive can come from that. Some shit's gonna happen too. You have to fire somebody, somebody's gonna embezzle from you, like some business shit is gonna happen.
4:42 Jocko Willink? And war. Again, if you go to war, as a nation, some war shit is gonna happen.
4:52 Jocko Willink? So, good things are gonna happen in life, but when you go voluntarily
5:00 Jocko Willink? into just about any arena, it should come as no surprise that some bust shit's gonna happen too.
5:12 Jocko Willink? So be ready for it.
5:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, that Theo Von's a master at that, you know, where, cause it was a little bit technically, a little bit beside the point, but so he like, he'll like point out something that's like kinda adjacent with the incident and make a joke about it. And then you kinda, your brain kinda like attaches it, you know, and you realize what he's talking about. It's actually really funny, he does super good.
5:33 Jocko Willink? Yeah. It is weird though. I mean, how many times in your life has someone come to you with a surprised attitude?
5:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, every single, yeah, yeah. So it is so common and I'm not talking trash, cause let's face it, it'll happen to me too. When we're all be like, oh, I'm like.
5:51 Speaker 01 If you put it this way, if you, if you remember that in your head, when things do happen, you're, you're not caught off guard. It's kind of like you can deal with it a lot easier in the moment.
5:59 Jocko Willink? Yeah. And especially at a minimum, it should prevent you from going and telling your friend, your bro, your parents, your coworker.
6:07 Speaker 01 Yep.
6:08 Jocko Willink? Like, I can't believe we made this investment and we're losing money. It's like, no, actually, you know what? Hey, we made an investment. We knew what the risks were. It ended up on the bad end of the risk.
6:16 Speaker 01 Very believable. Yeah.
6:17 Jocko Willink? And that's possible. There's, there's a whole calculus when it comes to taking risk. And again, this is reminding me of the conversation we had with one of our podcast guests, Tom Murphy. And I was just kind of talking about when you're assessing war, for instance. And it's like, we, we look at, okay, what are the pros and cons? And in the pros, we put every pro possible, like, oh my gosh, we'll be able to free these people and, and create coalitions and, you know, just put all the positives over here.
6:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:51 Jocko Willink? And in the negatives, we just put the most positive negatives only.
6:55 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
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